• Keeping Promises - House Takes the Axe to Biden's IRS Budget

    From 26C.Z968@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jan 9 22:55:59 2023
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    House Republicans make good on campaign promise and pass bill
    that cuts $72 billion from the IRS and 'repeals 87,000 IRS agents'

    The House Republican majority passed a bill Monday night
    to claw back $72 billion from the Internal Revenue Service

    The passage of the bill - which will die in the Democrat-run
    Senate - makes good on a pledge to voters to 'repeal 87,000
    IRS agents'

    . . .

    They just became American heros.

    That money to hire THAT many agents, especially
    with the job req involving being armed and
    dangerous paramilitary, was creepy out the ass.

    Alas, the vote was straight party-line ... no Dems
    seem to have realized their grave error ... with
    three members not voting for unknown reasons.

    Yes, govt needs money and SHOULD keep an eye on
    some of those monster corps with enough hidey-holes,
    lawyers and sleazy accountants to cover their asses.
    A lot of money disappears there. However I doubt the
    troopers were intended for THEM ... more for Joe Regular
    who claimed his cats food as a deduction because
    he heard some radio comic suggest it.

    However the BEST way for govt to get money is to
    follow the example of states with no income-tax ...
    GROW YOUR ECONOMY and lotsa money magically appears.

    Now the BAD news ... the bill will almost surely be
    destroyed in the Dem-controlled Senate and Joe sure
    as hell would never sign it. The House really needs
    to use its authority over the budget to shift and
    re-allocate Biden money towards more sane, sensible
    and ethical causes. That which can be allocated by
    procedure can be re-allocated by other procedures.
    Budgets are NOT set in stone - CAN'T be because
    unexpected critical shit always comes up. Last
    year we got Ukraine, this or next year, Taiwan ...
    and SoCal could fall into the ocean at any time.

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  • From Klaus Schadenfreude@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jan 9 20:35:55 2023
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    On 1/9/2023 7:55 PM, 26C.Z968 wrote:
    House Republicans make good on campaign promise and pass bill
    that cuts $72 billion from the IRS and 'repeals 87,000 IRS agents'

    The House Republican majority passed a bill Monday night
    to claw back $72 billion from the Internal Revenue Service

    The passage of the bill - which will die in the Democrat-run
    Senate

    Yes. As it should.

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  • From Yak@21:1/5 to Mitchell Holman on Tue Jan 10 09:37:05 2023
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    On 1/10/23 9:17 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
    "26C.Z968" <26C.Z968@noaada.net> wrote in news:HZednQRoK75NfCH- nZ2dnZfqnPudnZ2d@earthlink.com:

    House Republicans make good on campaign promise and pass bill
    that cuts $72 billion from the IRS and 'repeals 87,000 IRS agents'

    The House Republican majority passed a bill Monday night
    to claw back $72 billion from the Internal Revenue Service

    The passage of the bill - which will die in the Democrat-run
    Senate - makes good on a pledge to voters to 'repeal 87,000
    IRS agents'



    "We need to hire more border patrol agents"

    -- Republicans applaud.

    "We need to hire more police"

    -- Republicans applaud.

    "We need to hire more FBI agents"

    -- Republicans applaud.

    "We need to hire more IRS agents"

    -- Republicans: Hold on a second.....


    "We need to hire more border patrol agents"

    -- Democrats: Hold on a second.....

    "We need to hire more police"

    -- Democrats: Hold on a second.....

    "We need to hire more FBI agents"

    -- Democrats: Hold on a second.....

    "We need to hire more IRS agents"

    -- Democrats applaud.

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  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to 26C.Z968@noaada.net on Tue Jan 10 14:17:03 2023
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    "26C.Z968" <26C.Z968@noaada.net> wrote in news:HZednQRoK75NfCH- nZ2dnZfqnPudnZ2d@earthlink.com:

    House Republicans make good on campaign promise and pass bill
    that cuts $72 billion from the IRS and 'repeals 87,000 IRS agents'

    The House Republican majority passed a bill Monday night
    to claw back $72 billion from the Internal Revenue Service

    The passage of the bill - which will die in the Democrat-run
    Senate - makes good on a pledge to voters to 'repeal 87,000
    IRS agents'



    "We need to hire more border patrol agents"

    -- Republicans applaud.

    "We need to hire more police"

    -- Republicans applaud.

    "We need to hire more FBI agents"

    -- Republicans applaud.

    "We need to hire more IRS agents"

    -- Republicans: Hold on a second.....

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  • From Siri Cruise@21:1/5 to 26C.Z968@noaada.net on Tue Jan 10 08:26:36 2023
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    In article <HZednQRoK75NfCH-nZ2dnZfqnPudnZ2d@earthlink.com>,
    "26C.Z968" <26C.Z968@noaada.net> wrote:

    The passage of the bill - which will die in the Democrat-run
    Senate - makes good on a pledge to voters to 'repeal 87,000
    IRS agents'

    . . .

    They just became American heros.

    They made what they know is pointless gesture to show they value
    their rich parasite owners over their constituents. Normal for
    the Satanic Right. They passed bill after bill to repeal ACA
    until they got the majorities to pass a law, and then they punked
    out.

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  • From governor.swill@gmail.com@21:1/5 to Yak on Tue Jan 10 16:36:23 2023
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    On Tue, 10 Jan 2023 09:37:05 -0500, Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote:

    On 1/10/23 9:17 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
    "26C.Z968" <26C.Z968@noaada.net> wrote in news:HZednQRoK75NfCH-
    nZ2dnZfqnPudnZ2d@earthlink.com:

    House Republicans make good on campaign promise and pass bill
    that cuts $72 billion from the IRS and 'repeals 87,000 IRS agents'

    The House Republican majority passed a bill Monday night
    to claw back $72 billion from the Internal Revenue Service

    The passage of the bill - which will die in the Democrat-run
    Senate - makes good on a pledge to voters to 'repeal 87,000
    IRS agents'



    "We need to hire more border patrol agents"

    -- Republicans applaud.

    "We need to hire more police"

    -- Republicans applaud.

    "We need to hire more FBI agents"

    -- Republicans applaud.

    "We need to hire more IRS agents"

    -- Republicans: Hold on a second.....


    "We need to hire more border patrol agents"

    -- Democrats: Hold on a second.....

    "We need to hire more police"

    -- Democrats: Hold on a second.....

    "We need to hire more FBI agents"

    -- Democrats: Hold on a second.....

    "We need to hire more IRS agents"

    -- Democrats applaud.


    Exactly. We need to do all of those things and the last one, the IRS
    agents, will help pay for all the rest by finding the tax cheats that
    are contributing so heavily to the national debt.

    Swill
    --
    "Reality is an acquired taste." - Matthew Perry

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  • From governor.swill@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jan 10 16:34:55 2023
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    On Mon, 9 Jan 2023 22:55:59 -0500, "26C.Z968" <26C.Z968@noaada.net>
    wrote:

    House Republicans make good on campaign promise and pass bill
    that cuts $72 billion from the IRS and 'repeals 87,000 IRS agents'

    The House Republican majority passed a bill Monday night
    to claw back $72 billion from the Internal Revenue Service

    The passage of the bill - which will die in the Democrat-run
    Senate - makes good on a pledge to voters to 'repeal 87,000
    IRS agents'

    . . .

    They just became American heros.

    That money to hire THAT many agents, especially
    with the job req involving being armed and
    dangerous paramilitary, was creepy out the ass.

    The IRS hasn't hired anybody since 2011. They've got a lot to make
    up.

    It'll take the best part of a decade to hire and train that 87k and
    during that time still more agents will retire or make career changes.

    I suspect the only people who really want IRS castrated are those who
    regularly cheat on their taxes and are terrified that providing IRS
    with needed man power and computing power could put their days of
    stealing from other taxpayers at an end.

    Alas, the vote was straight party-line ... no Dems
    seem to have realized their grave error ... with
    three members not voting for unknown reasons.

    Yes, govt needs money and SHOULD keep an eye on
    some of those monster corps with enough hidey-holes,
    lawyers and sleazy accountants to cover their asses.
    A lot of money disappears there. However I doubt the
    troopers were intended for THEM ... more for Joe Regular
    who claimed his cats food as a deduction because
    he heard some radio comic suggest it.

    However the BEST way for govt to get money is to
    follow the example of states with no income-tax ...
    GROW YOUR ECONOMY and lotsa money magically appears.

    Now the BAD news ... the bill will almost surely be
    destroyed in the Dem-controlled Senate and Joe sure
    as hell would never sign it.

    That's the good news. You can't catch tax cheats without the
    manpower.

    The House really needs
    to use its authority over the budget to shift and
    re-allocate Biden money towards more sane, sensible
    and ethical causes. That which can be allocated by
    procedure can be re-allocated by other procedures.
    Budgets are NOT set in stone - CAN'T be because
    unexpected critical shit always comes up. Last
    year we got Ukraine, this or next year, Taiwan ...
    and SoCal could fall into the ocean at any time.

    Sorry, I didn't realize your post was a joke! LOL!

    Swill
    --
    "Reality is an acquired taste." - Matthew Perry

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  • From governor.swill@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jan 10 16:57:38 2023
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    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    On Tue, 10 Jan 2023 08:26:36 -0800, Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    In article <HZednQRoK75NfCH-nZ2dnZfqnPudnZ2d@earthlink.com>,
    "26C.Z968" <26C.Z968@noaada.net> wrote:

    The passage of the bill - which will die in the Democrat-run
    Senate - makes good on a pledge to voters to 'repeal 87,000
    IRS agents'

    . . .

    They just became American heros.

    They made what they know is pointless gesture to show they value
    their rich parasite owners over their constituents. Normal for
    the Satanic Right. They passed bill after bill to repeal ACA
    until they got the majorities to pass a law, and then they punked
    out.

    "How many times have Republicans tried to overturn the Affordable Care
    Act?
    "The Tuesday, February 2, 2016 vote, with a tally of 241–186, was the
    63rd attempt by the House. After the July 27, 2017 vote on the Health
    Care Freedom Act, Newsweek "found at least 70 Republican-led attempts
    to repeal, modify or otherwise curb the Affordable Care Act since its
    inception as law on March 23, 2010.""

    But when the GOP finally got a Republican President and both houses as
    well, those repeal attempts stopped.

    Why?

    Because their constituents demanded it; they LIKED the provisions of
    ACA. The result was they only succeeded in repealing the taxes that
    paid for ACA which in turn meant that once again, the GOP was
    inflating the deficit and the debt because they don't believe in
    paying their bills. They believe in dumping their debts onto their
    children and grandchildren.

    Swill
    --
    "Reality is an acquired taste." - Matthew Perry

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  • From governor.swill@gmail.com@21:1/5 to Klaus Schadenfreude on Tue Jan 10 16:58:59 2023
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    On Mon, 9 Jan 2023 20:35:55 -0800, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:

    On 1/9/2023 7:55 PM, 26C.Z968 wrote:
    House Republicans make good on campaign promise and pass bill
    that cuts $72 billion from the IRS and 'repeals 87,000 IRS agents'

    The House Republican majority passed a bill Monday night
    to claw back $72 billion from the Internal Revenue Service

    The passage of the bill - which will die in the Democrat-run
    Senate

    Yes. As it should.

    I hope so. We need more agents to catch the tax cheats.

    Swill
    --
    "Reality is an acquired taste." - Matthew Perry

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  • From 26C.Z968@21:1/5 to Siri Cruise on Tue Jan 10 21:15:18 2023
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    On 1/10/23 11:26 AM, Siri Cruise wrote:
    In article <HZednQRoK75NfCH-nZ2dnZfqnPudnZ2d@earthlink.com>,
    "26C.Z968" <26C.Z968@noaada.net> wrote:

    The passage of the bill - which will die in the Democrat-run
    Senate - makes good on a pledge to voters to 'repeal 87,000
    IRS agents'

    . . .

    They just became American heros.

    They made what they know is pointless gesture to show they value
    their rich parasite owners over their constituents. Normal for
    the Satanic Right. They passed bill after bill to repeal ACA
    until they got the majorities to pass a law, and then they punked
    out.

    That bill was a "gesture" - however there was
    a 'point'. The REAL work is to re-allocate that
    big pile of BidenCash, shift a lot to the border
    and away from a militarized tax service. That
    will take some time. The bill shows INTENT though,
    especially being passed so early on.

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  • From Leper@21:1/5 to governor.swill@gmail.com on Tue Jan 10 22:46:40 2023
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    On 1/10/2023 3:36 PM, governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:
    On Tue, 10 Jan 2023 09:37:05 -0500, Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote:

    On 1/10/23 9:17 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
    "26C.Z968" <26C.Z968@noaada.net> wrote in news:HZednQRoK75NfCH-
    nZ2dnZfqnPudnZ2d@earthlink.com:

    House Republicans make good on campaign promise and pass bill
    that cuts $72 billion from the IRS and 'repeals 87,000 IRS agents'

    The House Republican majority passed a bill Monday night
    to claw back $72 billion from the Internal Revenue Service

    The passage of the bill - which will die in the Democrat-run
    Senate - makes good on a pledge to voters to 'repeal 87,000
    IRS agents'



    "We need to hire more border patrol agents"

    -- Republicans applaud.

    "We need to hire more police"

    -- Republicans applaud.

    "We need to hire more FBI agents"

    -- Republicans applaud.

    "We need to hire more IRS agents"

    -- Republicans: Hold on a second.....


    "We need to hire more border patrol agents"

    -- Democrats: Hold on a second.....

    "We need to hire more police"

    -- Democrats: Hold on a second.....

    "We need to hire more FBI agents"

    -- Democrats: Hold on a second.....

    "We need to hire more IRS agents"

    -- Democrats applaud.


    Exactly. We need to do all of those things and the last one, the IRS
    agents, will help pay for all the rest by finding the tax cheats that
    are contributing so heavily to the national debt.

    Swill

    Slops...That is laughable. We cannot pay our bills now and our
    economy/Nation is on a steep downhill slide. We have the worst Foreign
    policy ever. The Democrat party should be tried and executed for this ,
    along with a Helluva a lot of Republicans. The French revolution comes
    to mind when a lot of Idiots lost their heads and the citizens became
    citizens.

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  • From Leper@21:1/5 to Yak on Tue Jan 10 22:40:38 2023
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    On 1/10/2023 8:37 AM, Yak wrote:
    On 1/10/23 9:17 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
    "26C.Z968" <26C.Z968@noaada.net> wrote in news:HZednQRoK75NfCH-
    nZ2dnZfqnPudnZ2d@earthlink.com:

    House Republicans make good on campaign promise and pass bill
    that cuts $72 billion from the IRS and 'repeals 87,000 IRS agents'

    The House Republican majority passed a bill Monday night
    to claw back $72 billion from the Internal Revenue Service

    The passage of the bill - which will die in the Democrat-run
    Senate - makes good on a pledge to voters to 'repeal 87,000
    IRS agents'



        "We need to hire more border patrol agents"

         -- Republicans applaud.

        "We need to hire more police"

         -- Republicans applaud.

         "We need to hire more FBI agents"

         -- Republicans applaud.

         "We need to hire more IRS agents"

         -- Republicans: Hold on a second.....


    "We need to hire more border patrol agents"

    -- Democrats: Hold on a second.....

    "We need to hire more police"

    -- Democrats: Hold on a second.....

    "We need to hire more FBI agents"

    -- Democrats: Hold on a second.....

    "We need to hire more IRS agents"

    -- Democrats applaud.

    Democrats: You betcha! We got that IRS weaponized to insure Democrat
    Oligarchy. Fuck the voters.



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  • From Leper@21:1/5 to governor.swill@gmail.com on Tue Jan 10 22:37:17 2023
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    On 1/10/2023 3:58 PM, governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:
    On Mon, 9 Jan 2023 20:35:55 -0800, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:

    On 1/9/2023 7:55 PM, 26C.Z968 wrote:
    House Republicans make good on campaign promise and pass bill
    that cuts $72 billion from the IRS and 'repeals 87,000 IRS agents'

    The House Republican majority passed a bill Monday night
    to claw back $72 billion from the Internal Revenue Service

    The passage of the bill - which will die in the Democrat-run
    Senate

    Yes. As it should.

    I hope so. We need more agents to catch the tax cheats.

    Swill

    How about some real overseer to catch the Tax wasters?

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  • From 26C.Z968@21:1/5 to Leper on Wed Jan 11 00:20:20 2023
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    On 1/10/23 11:37 PM, Leper wrote:
    On 1/10/2023 3:58 PM, governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:
    On Mon, 9 Jan 2023 20:35:55 -0800, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:

    On 1/9/2023 7:55 PM, 26C.Z968 wrote:
    House Republicans make good on campaign promise and pass bill
    that cuts $72 billion from the IRS and 'repeals 87,000 IRS agents'

    The House Republican majority passed a bill Monday night
    to claw back $72 billion from the Internal Revenue Service

    The passage of the bill - which will die in the Democrat-run
    Senate

    Yes.  As it should.

    I hope so.  We need more agents to catch the tax cheats.

    Swill

    How about some real overseer to catch the Tax wasters?


    Hey ... NO SUCH THING ! You're like some kind of
    traitor for suggesting it !!! :-)

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  • From Yak@21:1/5 to governor.swill@gmail.com on Wed Jan 11 08:50:27 2023
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    On 1/10/23 4:36 PM, governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:
    On Tue, 10 Jan 2023 09:37:05 -0500, Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote:

    On 1/10/23 9:17 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
    "26C.Z968" <26C.Z968@noaada.net> wrote in news:HZednQRoK75NfCH-
    nZ2dnZfqnPudnZ2d@earthlink.com:

    House Republicans make good on campaign promise and pass bill
    that cuts $72 billion from the IRS and 'repeals 87,000 IRS agents'

    The House Republican majority passed a bill Monday night
    to claw back $72 billion from the Internal Revenue Service

    The passage of the bill - which will die in the Democrat-run
    Senate - makes good on a pledge to voters to 'repeal 87,000
    IRS agents'



    "We need to hire more border patrol agents"

    -- Republicans applaud.

    "We need to hire more police"

    -- Republicans applaud.

    "We need to hire more FBI agents"

    -- Republicans applaud.

    "We need to hire more IRS agents"

    -- Republicans: Hold on a second.....


    "We need to hire more border patrol agents"

    -- Democrats: Hold on a second.....

    "We need to hire more police"

    -- Democrats: Hold on a second.....

    "We need to hire more FBI agents"

    -- Democrats: Hold on a second.....

    "We need to hire more IRS agents"

    -- Democrats applaud.


    Exactly. We need to do all of those things and the last one, the IRS
    agents, will help pay for all the rest by finding the tax cheats that
    are contributing so heavily to the national debt.

    Swill

    We need to scrap the tax code and replace govt funding with HR25.

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to governor.swill@gmail.com on Wed Jan 11 10:27:41 2023
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    On Tue, 10 Jan 2023 16:58:59 -0500, governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:

    On Mon, 9 Jan 2023 20:35:55 -0800, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:

    On 1/9/2023 7:55 PM, 26C.Z968 wrote:
    House Republicans make good on campaign promise and pass bill
    that cuts $72 billion from the IRS and 'repeals 87,000 IRS agents'

    The House Republican majority passed a bill Monday night
    to claw back $72 billion from the Internal Revenue Service

    The passage of the bill - which will die in the Democrat-run
    Senate

    Yes. As it should.

    I hope so. We need more agents to catch the tax cheats.

    Swill

    You assume all audits will be legitimate. Currently the lower wage
    earners are the highest targeted group:

    " Odds of IRS Audit Down Slightly in FY 2022 with Lowest Income
    Wage-Earners Still Targeted

    Last year over 164 million individual income tax returns were filed.
    The IRS audited 626,204 returns, down from 659,003 during FY 2021.
    Less than 100,000 of these (93,595) were regular audits in contrast to correspondence audits (532,609). Together this means that last year
    the odds of audit had fallen to 3.8 out of every 1,000 returns filed
    (0.38%). For FY 2021, the odds of audit had been 4.1 out of every
    1,000 returns filed (0.41%).

    The taxpayer class with unbelievably high audit rates – five and a
    half times virtually everyone else – were low-income wage-earners
    taking the earned income tax credit. This credit is provided to offset
    the taxes for the lowest wage-earners in the country. As we previously
    have reported, [3] this group of taxpayers have historically been
    targeted not because they account for the most tax under-reporting,
    but because they are easy marks in an era when IRS increasingly relies
    upon correspondence audits yet doesn’t have the resources to assist
    taxpayers or answer their questions. See Figure 2. "

    https://trac.syr.edu/reports/706/

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  • From governor.swill@gmail.com@21:1/5 to Yak on Wed Jan 11 14:17:58 2023
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    On Wed, 11 Jan 2023 08:50:27 -0500, Yak wrote:

    We need to scrap the tax code and replace govt funding with HR25.

    We need to scrap the faux conservative Republican Party and replace it
    with a party that really DOES support conservative fiscal and defense
    values. The current Republican party is NOT fiscally conservative and
    over the past several years has gotten a bit dodgy on defense.

    Swill
    --
    "Reality is an acquired taste." - Matthew Perry

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  • From governor.swill@gmail.com@21:1/5 to Leper on Wed Jan 11 14:15:36 2023
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    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    On Tue, 10 Jan 2023 22:46:40 -0600, Leper wrote:

    Slops...That is laughable. We cannot pay our bills now and our
    economy/Nation is on a steep downhill slide. We have the worst Foreign
    policy ever. The Democrat party should be tried and executed for this ,
    along with a Helluva a lot of Republicans. The French revolution comes
    to mind when a lot of Idiots lost their heads and the citizens became >citizens.

    Well maybe adding to IRS staff will catch enough tax cheats to make up
    for some of that Republican debt. In any case, watching a
    conservative complain about debt is what's laughable. Conservatives
    don't give a shit how big the debt is. If they did, they wouldn't be
    voting for Republicans.

    https://fiscaldata.treasury.gov/datasets/historical-debt-outstanding/historical-debt-outstanding

    Set the 'data range' to "All" and the rows per page to 50. Then check
    the national debt at the end of each President's last fiscal year.
    Sept 30, 1981 for Jimmy Carter, Sept 30, 1989 for Ronald Reagan, Sept
    30, 1993 for GHW Bush and so on.

    You'll find that two thirds of the current debt was accrued during
    Republican administrations, including the trillion dollars left from
    FY 1981 that took over 200 years to accrue. You'll also find that
    Bill Clinton grew the debt the slowest.

    Swill
    --
    "Reality is an acquired taste." - Matthew Perry

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  • From Yak@21:1/5 to governor.swill@gmail.com on Wed Jan 11 14:27:05 2023
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    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    On 1/11/23 2:15 PM, governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:
    On Tue, 10 Jan 2023 22:46:40 -0600, Leper wrote:

    Slops...That is laughable. We cannot pay our bills now and our
    economy/Nation is on a steep downhill slide. We have the worst Foreign
    policy ever. The Democrat party should be tried and executed for this ,
    along with a Helluva a lot of Republicans. The French revolution comes
    to mind when a lot of Idiots lost their heads and the citizens became
    citizens.

    Well maybe adding to IRS staff will catch enough tax cheats to make up
    for some of that Republican debt. In any case, watching a
    conservative complain about debt is what's laughable. Conservatives
    don't give a shit how big the debt is. If they did, they wouldn't be
    voting for Republicans.

    https://fiscaldata.treasury.gov/datasets/historical-debt-outstanding/historical-debt-outstanding

    Set the 'data range' to "All" and the rows per page to 50. Then check
    the national debt at the end of each President's last fiscal year.
    Sept 30, 1981 for Jimmy Carter, Sept 30, 1989 for Ronald Reagan, Sept
    30, 1993 for GHW Bush and so on.

    You'll find that two thirds of the current debt was accrued during
    Republican administrations, including the trillion dollars left from
    FY 1981 that took over 200 years to accrue. You'll also find that
    Bill Clinton grew the debt the slowest.

    Swill

    If conservatives don't give a shit how big the debt is then they aren't conservative(s). So, thanks for admitting that liberalism is responsible
    for the debt; you're making progress.

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  • From Yak@21:1/5 to governor.swill@gmail.com on Wed Jan 11 14:28:39 2023
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    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    On 1/11/23 2:17 PM, governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:
    On Wed, 11 Jan 2023 08:50:27 -0500, Yak wrote:

    We need to scrap the tax code and replace govt funding with HR25.

    We need to scrap the faux conservative Republican Party and replace it
    with a party that really DOES support conservative fiscal and defense
    values. The current Republican party is NOT fiscally conservative and
    over the past several years has gotten a bit dodgy on defense.

    Agreed. Now do democrats/liberals. Or, are they beyond help?

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  • From governor.swill@gmail.com@21:1/5 to Leper on Wed Jan 11 15:05:10 2023
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.politics.usa, alt.politics.republicans
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    On Tue, 10 Jan 2023 22:37:17 -0600, Leper wrote:

    How about some real overseer to catch the Tax wasters?

    We have those. They're called, "Democrats".

    Swill
    --
    "Reality is an acquired taste." - Matthew Perry

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  • From governor.swill@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jan 11 15:04:29 2023
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.politics.usa, alt.politics.republicans
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    On Tue, 10 Jan 2023 22:40:38 -0600, Leper <Leper@MalokaiColony.com>
    wrote:

    On 1/10/2023 8:37 AM, Yak wrote:
    On 1/10/23 9:17 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
    "26C.Z968" <26C.Z968@noaada.net> wrote in news:HZednQRoK75NfCH-
    nZ2dnZfqnPudnZ2d@earthlink.com:

    House Republicans make good on campaign promise and pass bill
    that cuts $72 billion from the IRS and 'repeals 87,000 IRS agents'

    The House Republican majority passed a bill Monday night
    to claw back $72 billion from the Internal Revenue Service

    The passage of the bill - which will die in the Democrat-run
    Senate - makes good on a pledge to voters to 'repeal 87,000
    IRS agents'



        "We need to hire more border patrol agents"

         -- Republicans applaud.

        "We need to hire more police"

         -- Republicans applaud.

         "We need to hire more FBI agents"

         -- Republicans applaud.

         "We need to hire more IRS agents"

         -- Republicans: Hold on a second.....


    "We need to hire more border patrol agents"

    -- Democrats: Hold on a second.....

    "We need to hire more police"

    -- Democrats: Hold on a second.....

    "We need to hire more FBI agents"

    -- Democrats: Hold on a second.....

    "We need to hire more IRS agents"

    -- Democrats applaud.

    Democrats: You betcha! We got that IRS weaponized to insure Democrat >Oligarchy. Fuck the voters.

    "Fuck the voters" is a traditional Republican mantra.

    They've weaponized the IRS and the tax code to avoid taxes and shift
    the burden to the working poor and middle class which pay higher
    rates.

    Swill
    --
    "Reality is an acquired taste." - Matthew Perry

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  • From governor.swill@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jan 11 15:06:45 2023
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.politics.usa, alt.politics.republicans
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    On Wed, 11 Jan 2023 00:20:20 -0500, "26C.Z968" <26C.Z968@noaada.net>
    wrote:

    On 1/10/23 11:37 PM, Leper wrote:
    On 1/10/2023 3:58 PM, governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:
    On Mon, 9 Jan 2023 20:35:55 -0800, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:

    On 1/9/2023 7:55 PM, 26C.Z968 wrote:
    House Republicans make good on campaign promise and pass bill
    that cuts $72 billion from the IRS and 'repeals 87,000 IRS agents'

    The House Republican majority passed a bill Monday night
    to claw back $72 billion from the Internal Revenue Service

    The passage of the bill - which will die in the Democrat-run
    Senate

    Yes.  As it should.

    I hope so.  We need more agents to catch the tax cheats.

    Swill

    How about some real overseer to catch the Tax wasters?


    Hey ... NO SUCH THING ! You're like some kind of
    traitor for suggesting it !!! :-)

    hehe Indeed, Republicans are no less interested in pork for their states/districts as anybody else.

    Swill
    --
    "Reality is an acquired taste." - Matthew Perry

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  • From Yak@21:1/5 to governor.swill@gmail.com on Wed Jan 11 15:20:30 2023
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.politics.usa, alt.politics.republicans
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    On 1/11/23 3:05 PM, governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:
    On Tue, 10 Jan 2023 22:37:17 -0600, Leper wrote:

    How about some real overseer to catch the Tax wasters?

    We have those. They're called, "Democrats".

    Okay, gotta admit I spit my coffee out on that one.

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  • From governor.swill@gmail.com@21:1/5 to Yak on Wed Jan 11 19:40:11 2023
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.politics.usa, alt.politics.republicans
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    On Wed, 11 Jan 2023 14:27:05 -0500, Yak wrote:

    If conservatives don't give a shit how big the debt is then they aren't >conservative(s). So, thanks for admitting that liberalism is responsible
    for the debt; you're making progress.

    So you're a liberal? About time you admitted it. You've also
    admitted you're a tax cheat.

    Swill
    --
    "Reality is an acquired taste." - Matthew Perry

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  • From governor.swill@gmail.com@21:1/5 to Yak on Wed Jan 11 19:48:43 2023
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.politics.usa, alt.politics.republicans
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    On Wed, 11 Jan 2023 14:28:39 -0500, Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote:

    On 1/11/23 2:17 PM, governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:
    On Wed, 11 Jan 2023 08:50:27 -0500, Yak wrote:

    We need to scrap the tax code and replace govt funding with HR25.

    We need to scrap the faux conservative Republican Party and replace it
    with a party that really DOES support conservative fiscal and defense
    values. The current Republican party is NOT fiscally conservative and
    over the past several years has gotten a bit dodgy on defense.

    Agreed. Now do democrats/liberals. Or, are they beyond help?

    I don't see any liberals attempting to overthrow the government or
    execute politicians for upholding the Constitution.

    "White supremacists and other far-right-wing extremists are the most significant domestic terrorism threat facing the United States."

    These sorts will be the death of the GOP if you don't get rid of them.

    Swill
    --
    "Reality is an acquired taste." - Matthew Perry

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  • From Yak@21:1/5 to governor.swill@gmail.com on Wed Jan 11 21:00:45 2023
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.politics.usa, alt.politics.republicans
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    On 1/11/23 7:40 PM, governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:
    On Wed, 11 Jan 2023 14:27:05 -0500, Yak wrote:

    If conservatives don't give a shit how big the debt is then they aren't
    conservative(s). So, thanks for admitting that liberalism is responsible
    for the debt; you're making progress.

    So you're a liberal?

    LOL...sure, swill....sure.

    About time you admitted it. You've also
    admitted you're a tax cheat.

    I did? I am? That's news to me.

    Swill

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  • From Yak@21:1/5 to governor.swill@gmail.com on Wed Jan 11 21:06:18 2023
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.politics.usa, alt.politics.republicans
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    On 1/11/23 7:48 PM, governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:
    On Wed, 11 Jan 2023 14:28:39 -0500, Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote:

    On 1/11/23 2:17 PM, governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:
    On Wed, 11 Jan 2023 08:50:27 -0500, Yak wrote:

    We need to scrap the tax code and replace govt funding with HR25.

    We need to scrap the faux conservative Republican Party and replace it
    with a party that really DOES support conservative fiscal and defense
    values. The current Republican party is NOT fiscally conservative and
    over the past several years has gotten a bit dodgy on defense.

    Agreed. Now do democrats/liberals. Or, are they beyond help?

    I don't see any liberals attempting to overthrow the government or
    execute politicians for upholding the Constitution.

    And I don't see where that has anything to do with a discussion about
    taxation.

    "White supremacists and other far-right-wing extremists are the most significant domestic terrorism threat facing the United States."

    LOL...that's right up there with 'the rich don't pay taxes.'

    These sorts will be the death of the GOP if you don't get rid of them.

    Swill

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  • From governor.swill@gmail.com@21:1/5 to Yak on Thu Jan 12 02:52:43 2023
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.politics.usa, alt.politics.republicans
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    On Wed, 11 Jan 2023 21:06:18 -0500, Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote:

    And I don't see where that has anything to do with a discussion about >taxation.

    And I don't see you answering my question about taxing higher income
    earners.

    Why it is that modest tax increases on the wealthiest earners passed
    by Democrats in 1989 and 1993 balanced the budget, generated the only
    surpluses in thirty years and were followed by the biggest period of
    peacetime economic growth in US history?

    Swill
    --
    "Reality is an acquired taste." - Matthew Perry

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to governor.swill@gmail.com on Thu Jan 12 06:59:02 2023
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.politics.usa, alt.politics.republicans
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    On Wed, 11 Jan 2023 15:05:10 -0500, governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:

    On Tue, 10 Jan 2023 22:37:17 -0600, Leper wrote:

    How about some real overseer to catch the Tax wasters?

    We have those. They're called, "Democrats".


    Swill's right. The Dem's ARE the tax wasters.

    Swill

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  • From Leper@21:1/5 to governor.swill@gmail.com on Thu Jan 12 12:51:02 2023
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.politics.usa, alt.politics.republicans
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    On 1/12/2023 1:52 AM, governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:
    On Wed, 11 Jan 2023 21:06:18 -0500, Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote:

    And I don't see where that has anything to do with a discussion about
    taxation.

    And I don't see you answering my question about taxing higher income
    earners.

    Why it is that modest tax increases on the wealthiest earners passed
    by Democrats in 1989 and 1993 balanced the budget, generated the only surpluses in thirty years and were followed by the biggest period of peacetime economic growth in US history?

    Swill

    There never was any surplus, only over runs. I suggest that you look a
    the high speed debt clock that cannot ever catch up to our true debt.
    Why isn't all debts added up and publically displayed for all to see?
    You and crooked willie, Bill Clinton spew the same lies about the
    economy. We have never paid back anything accrued since before the FDR administration. Hell, the Democrats Federal reserve system created the
    great depression! Right now the Bidon administration is utilizing Bush
    Jr's Keep spending to keep the economy afloat. Keep a lot of non backed
    money floating on the street to encourage spending. It is a temporary
    fix. The Chinese love it as it keeps Chinese industry going and
    Americans balance of trade massively in the toilet to the Chinese. Gives
    our Chinese trading partners the edge to build a huge military and to
    bully Taiwan, the Philippines and most of the old Indochina.
    The Morons in the modern Republican party made not one move to counter
    any of this when we the People gave them the House, Senate and
    Presidency. At least a move was made to curb the massive Immigrant
    invasion and a start at a border wall. The fucking DNC wants nothing
    less then a Democrat Dictatorship.

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  • From governor.swill@gmail.com@21:1/5 to governor.swill@gmail.com on Thu Jan 12 17:44:57 2023
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.politics.usa, alt.politics.republicans
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    On Thu, 12 Jan 2023 02:52:43 -0500, governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:

    On Wed, 11 Jan 2023 21:06:18 -0500, Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote:

    And I don't see where that has anything to do with a discussion about >>taxation.

    And I don't see you answering my question about taxing higher income
    earners.

    Why it is that modest tax increases on the wealthiest earners passed
    by Democrats in 1989 and 1993 balanced the budget, generated the only >surpluses in thirty years and were followed by the biggest period of >peacetime economic growth in US history?

    And you STILL can't explain it. But you can explain, er, claim that
    cutting taxes by 2.7 trillion dollars is insignificant to debt growth.

    Swill
    --
    "Reality is an acquired taste." - Matthew Perry

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  • From governor.swill@gmail.com@21:1/5 to Leper on Thu Jan 12 23:06:19 2023
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.politics.usa, alt.politics.republicans
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    On Thu, 12 Jan 2023 12:51:02 -0600, Leper wrote:

    There never was any surplus, only over runs. I suggest that you look a
    the high speed debt clock that cannot ever catch up to our true debt.
    Why isn't all debts added up and publically displayed for all to see?
    You and crooked willie, Bill Clinton spew the same lies about the
    economy. We have never paid back anything accrued since before the FDR >administration. Hell, the Democrats Federal reserve system created the
    great depression! Right now the Bidon administration is utilizing Bush
    Jr's Keep spending to keep the economy afloat. Keep a lot of non backed
    money floating on the street to encourage spending. It is a temporary
    fix. The Chinese love it as it keeps Chinese industry going and
    Americans balance of trade massively in the toilet to the Chinese. Gives
    our Chinese trading partners the edge to build a huge military and to
    bully Taiwan, the Philippines and most of the old Indochina.
    The Morons in the modern Republican party made not one move to counter
    any of this when we the People gave them the House, Senate and
    Presidency. At least a move was made to curb the massive Immigrant
    invasion and a start at a border wall. The fucking DNC wants nothing
    less then a Democrat Dictatorship.

    Cut back on the dope, son. You're incoherent.

    Swill
    --
    "Reality is an acquired taste." - Matthew Perry

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  • From Leper@21:1/5 to governor.swill@gmail.com on Fri Jan 13 00:24:06 2023
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.politics.usa, alt.politics.republicans
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    On 1/12/2023 10:06 PM, governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:
    On Thu, 12 Jan 2023 12:51:02 -0600, Leper wrote:

    There never was any surplus, only over runs. I suggest that you look a
    the high speed debt clock that cannot ever catch up to our true debt.
    Why isn't all debts added up and publically displayed for all to see?
    You and crooked willie, Bill Clinton spew the same lies about the
    economy. We have never paid back anything accrued since before the FDR
    administration. Hell, the Democrats Federal reserve system created the
    great depression! Right now the Bidon administration is utilizing Bush
    Jr's Keep spending to keep the economy afloat. Keep a lot of non backed
    money floating on the street to encourage spending. It is a temporary
    fix. The Chinese love it as it keeps Chinese industry going and
    Americans balance of trade massively in the toilet to the Chinese. Gives
    our Chinese trading partners the edge to build a huge military and to
    bully Taiwan, the Philippines and most of the old Indochina.
    The Morons in the modern Republican party made not one move to counter
    any of this when we the People gave them the House, Senate and
    Presidency. At least a move was made to curb the massive Immigrant
    invasion and a start at a border wall. The fucking DNC wants nothing
    less then a Democrat Dictatorship.

    Cut back on the dope, son. You're incoherent.

    Swill

    Babble on, Slops. it is sad that you have so much to say and yet nothing
    that actually means anything factual.

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