• Roman Concrete Was Self-Healing ... OUR Concrete is CRAP

    From 26C.Z968@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jan 7 00:27:15 2023
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.science

    https://techxplore.com/news/2023-01-riddle-roman-concrete-durable.html

    The ancient Romans were masters of engineering, constructing
    vast networks of roads, aqueducts, ports, and massive buildings,
    whose remains have survived for two millennia. Many of these
    structures were built with concrete: Rome's famed Pantheon,
    which has the world's largest unreinforced concrete dome and
    was dedicated in A.D. 128, is still intact, and some ancient
    Roman aqueducts still deliver water to Rome today. Meanwhile,
    many modern concrete structures have crumbled after a few decades.

    Researchers have spent decades trying to figure out the secret
    of this ultradurable ancient construction material, particularly
    in structures that endured especially harsh conditions, such as
    docks, sewers, and seawalls, or those constructed in seismically
    active locations.

    . . .

    Rome built many things out of concrete - a different
    formula to that largely used today, containing volcanic
    ash. Concrete containing coal fly-ash is similar, but
    only a small percentage of modern concrete contains it.

    The authors were interested in little flecks of lime found
    in Roman concrete. For a very long time they were simply
    dismissed as an artifact of poor quality materials. However
    it turns out they serve an important function - providing
    a means to heal micro-fractures in the concrete.

    Romans used a process known as "hot mixing" - where the
    main ingredients were all baked together at high temperature.
    It was long assumed that lime was dissolved in water and
    added to the mix at pour time, but this was not the case.
    The tiny chips of lime were added to tbe bake mix and
    intended to NOT dissolve.

    So, 2000 years later and we STILL can't out-do Roman
    concrete tech. THEIR stuff has lasted millenia - OUR
    stuff fractures and crumbles in mere decades. Junk.

    Of course, given the modern practice of re-cycling
    real-estate every few decades ... flattening whatever
    is there and building something "better" ... perhaps
    our crap concrete IS more appropriate. Thing is, in
    terms of material and energy costs, that's a terrible
    terrible waste.

    The OTHER flaw in modern concrete construction is the
    ubiquitous use of steel rebar. It rusts and the rust
    creates pressure on the concrete - and splits it. The
    catastrophic collapse of that big condo in Miami a
    couple of years ago was because of this - salty water
    penetrated micro-cracks to the rebar and shattered
    the concrete. Just slapping some plaster on it does
    NOT fix the damage. just makes it LOOK safe. Stainless
    rebar, particularly in oceanside construction, could
    alleviate this problem but stainless steel is a LOT
    more expensive (and has some unfavorable stress failure
    issues that'd become more relevant in taller structures).

    Perhaps, especially in hostile climes, it would actually
    be better to reproduce the Roman mix and 'heavier' walls -
    and skip the rebar entirely ? That won't serve for really
    tall (>20 floor) buildings that sway in the breeze, but
    for things like those beachfront condos ...

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