On Sat, 9 Nov 2024 7:36:21 +0000, Maciej Wozniak wrote:

W dniu 09.11.2024 o 00:41, gharnagel pisze:

On Fri, 8 Nov 2024 16:03:23 +0000, Maciej Wozniak wrote:

That's absolutely right and despite mad
ravings of you and your fellow scumbags
the mumble of your idiot guru remains not
even consistent, as it's been proven.

There goes Wozniak again: raving, spitting
and "slandering"

It was not me screaming about booze

Well, yes it was, under the guise of pink
elephants.

and marijuana

Well, yes it was, under the guise of purple
elephants and green grass.

and it wasn't karma too,

Well, yes it was. Every time Wozniak tries to
insult someone, it all comes back to bite him
in the butt.

it was Harnagel,

Infantile Wozniak never takes responsibility
for his own behavior.

poor, lying

Wozniak projects his own dishonesty again.
He doesn't recognize satire when it slaps him
in the face. No sense of self-reflection, no
sense of humor.

He's "crafty and mean. But not creative, not
truly intelligent." -- Robert A. Heinlein

piece of shit.

The coprophiliac swallows it himself, over and
over again. He seems to be a very poorly built
A.I. construct, merely cutting and pasting his
foolish nonsense over and over again.

And his hilarious "proof" of the "inconsistency"
of relativity? :-)) Truly moronic.

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W dniu 09.11.2024 o 15:45, gharnagel pisze:

On Sat, 9 Nov 2024 7:36:21 +0000, Maciej Wozniak wrote:

W dniu 09.11.2024 o 00:41, gharnagel pisze:

On Fri, 8 Nov 2024 16:03:23 +0000, Maciej Wozniak wrote:

;
That's absolutely right and despite mad
ravings of you and your fellow scumbags
the mumble of your idiot guru remains not
even consistent, as it's been proven.

There goes Wozniak again: raving, spitting
and "slandering"

It was not me screaming about booze

Well, yes it was, under the guise of pink
elephants.

If I called you a pedophile murderer - under
the guise of your relativistic idiocies -
what woould you say, poor, lying piece of shit?

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On Sat, 9 Nov 2024 16:27:28 +0000, Maciej Wozniak wrote:

If I called you a pedophile murderer - under
the guise of your relativistic idiocies -
what woould you say, poor, lying piece of shit?

Pshaw! Wozniak just cuts and pastes his old
worn-out straw-man polemic, even retaining the
same typo :-)) Yawn!

As for his beyond stupid "relativistic idiocies"
baloney:

Both special and general relativity have been confirmed
by copious experimental evidence, so Wozniak's belief
system is wildly unrealistic, even delusional.

If he knew enough math and logic, he could derive the
equations for himself, but he's mathematically incompetent.

"Anyone who cannot cope with mathematics is not fully human.
At best he is a tolerable subhuman who has learned to wear
shoes, bathe, and not make messes in the house."
– Robert A. Heinlein

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W dniu 10.11.2024 o 04:30, gharnagel pisze:

On Sat, 9 Nov 2024 16:27:28 +0000, Maciej Wozniak wrote:

If I called you a pedophile murderer - under
the guise of your relativistic idiocies -
what woould you say, poor, lying piece of shit?

Pshaw!  Wozniak just cuts and pastes his old
worn-out straw-man polemic, even retaining the
same typo :-))  Yawn!

As for his beyond stupid "relativistic idiocies"
baloney:

Both special and general relativity have been confirmed

Only such an idiot as you are can believe
such a nonsensical lie. After deleting
GPS clocks from the reality, of course.

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On Sun, 10 Nov 2024 8:38:38 +0000, Maciej Wozniak wrote:

W dniu 10.11.2024 o 04:30, gharnagel pisze:

On Sat, 9 Nov 2024 16:27:28 +0000, Maciej Wozniak wrote:

If I called you a pedophile murderer - under
the guise of your relativistic idiocies -
what woould you say, poor, lying piece of shit?

Pshaw!  Wozniak just cuts and pastes his old
worn-out straw-man polemic, even retaining the
same typo :-))  Yawn!

As for his beyond stupid "relativistic idiocies"
baloney:

Both special and general relativity have been confirmed

Only such an idiot as you are can believe
such a nonsensical lie.

Wozniak will not even read the entire sentence before he
makes a response.

Both special and general relativity have been confirmed
by copious experimental evidence, so Wozniak's belief
system is wildly unrealistic, even delusional.

He also refuses to read the copious evidence:

https://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/Relativity/SR/experiments.html

He can't do the math involved in confirming the postulates of
relativity, so he calls people idiots who actually read and
understand the evidence. All he does is prove that he is the
one who "slanders" and insults. It's called hypocrisy.

“‎When you point your finger at someone, anyone, it is often a
moment of judgement. We point our fingers when we want to scold
someone, point out what they have done wrong. But each time we
point, we simultaneously point three fingers back at ourselves.”
– Christopher Pike

After deleting GPS clocks from the reality, of course.

No such thing. Wozniak's "short proof of the inconsistency"
of relativity is illogical nonsense. He conflates human
definitions with natural processes to falsely demean
relativity. And he refuses to accept REAL information:

"At the time of launch of the first NTS-2 satellite (June 1977),
which contained the first Cesium clock to be placed in orbit,
there were some who doubted that relativistic effects were real.
A frequency synthesizer was built into the satellite clock system
so that after launch, if in fact the rate of the clock in its
final orbit was that predicted by GR, then the synthesizer could
be turned on bringing the clock to the coordinate rate necessary
for operation. The atomic clock was first operated for about 20
days to measure its clock rate before turning on the synthesizer.
The frequency measured during that interval was +442.5 parts in
10^12 faster than clocks on the ground; if left uncorrected this
would have resulted in timing errors of about 38,000 nanoseconds
per day." -- Neil Ashby

http://www.leapsecond.com/history/Ashby-Relativity.htm

Being an "information engineer" is insufficient to criticize
relativity:

“Information is not knowledge.” -- Albert Einstein

And knowledge is also insufficient:

"Any fool can know. The point is to understand." ―Albert Einstein

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W dniu 10.11.2024 o 15:16, gharnagel pisze:

On Sun, 10 Nov 2024 8:38:38 +0000, Maciej Wozniak wrote:

W dniu 10.11.2024 o 04:30, gharnagel pisze:

On Sat, 9 Nov 2024 16:27:28 +0000, Maciej Wozniak wrote:

If I called you a pedophile murderer - under
the guise of your relativistic idiocies -
what woould you say, poor, lying piece of shit?

Pshaw!  Wozniak just cuts and pastes his old
worn-out straw-man polemic, even retaining the
same typo :-))  Yawn!

As for his beyond stupid "relativistic idiocies"
baloney:

Both special and general relativity have been confirmed

Only such an idiot as you are can believe
such a nonsensical lie.

Wozniak will not even read the entire sentence before he
makes a response.

Both special and general relativity have been confirmed
by copious experimental evidence, so Wozniak's belief
system is wildly unrealistic, even delusional.

He also refuses to read the copious evidence:

https://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/Relativity/SR/experiments.html

I'm just refusing impudent lies of some
fanatic idiots insisting there is some
evidence for their mad mumble in those
experiments.

He can't do the math involved in

And poor Harnagel, of course, is keeping
slandering. That's what his moronic church has
trained it for.

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On Sun, 10 Nov 2024 20:58:50 +0000, Maciej Wozniak wrote:

W dniu 10.11.2024 o 15:16, gharnagel pisze:

He also refuses to read the copious evidence:

https://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/Relativity/SR/experiments.html

I'm just refusing impudent lies of some
fanatic idiots insisting there is some
evidence for their mad mumble in those
experiments.

How does Wozniak KNOW they are "fanatic idiots" and that they're
"lying"? He doesn't, of course. He doesn't know, of course. His
ridiculous "proof" that relativity is "inconsistent" is itself
so full of holes a planet could go through it.

He can't do the math involved in

Wozniak deletes the fact that the accusation is true.

"Anyone who cannot cope with mathematics is not fully human.
At best he is a tolerable subhuman who has learned to wear
shoes, bathe, and not make messes in the house."
– Robert A. Heinlein

And poor Harnagel, of course, is keeping
slandering. That's what his moronic church has
trained it for.

Actually, Wozniak is projecting his own behavior. The title
of this thread proves that: " A short proof of the inconsistency
of the mumble of your idiot guru" :-)

Saint Albert is not a "guru" and he wasn't an "idiot" and
relativity is not inconsistent and Wozniak's "proof" is
only his fantasy.

“Denial is the worst kind of lie … because it is the lie you tell yourself.” – Michelle A. Homme

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W dniu 11.11.2024 o 14:08, gharnagel pisze:

On Sun, 10 Nov 2024 20:58:50 +0000, Maciej Wozniak wrote:

W dniu 10.11.2024 o 15:16, gharnagel pisze:

He also refuses to read the copious evidence:

https://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/Relativity/SR/experiments.html

I'm just refusing impudent lies of  some
fanatic idiots insisting there is some
evidence for  their mad mumble in those
experiments.

How does Wozniak KNOW they are "fanatic idiots" and that they're
"lying"?

Have been talking to them for some decades,
poor lying piece of shit.

He can't do the math involved in

Wozniak deletes the fact that the accusation is true.

No it is not, but your Shit hasn't
been training its doggies for telling
(or writing) the truth.

"Anyone who cannot cope with mathematics is not fully human.
At best he is a tolerable subhuman who has learned to wear
shoes, bathe, and not make messes in the house."
– Robert A. Heinlein

And poor Harnagel, of course, is keeping
slandering. That's what his moronic church has
trained it for.

Actually, Wozniak is projecting his own behavior.\

It was not me screaming about booze
and marijuana and it wasn't karma too,
it was Harnagel, poor lying piece of shit.

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On Mon, 11 Nov 2024 14:29:38 +0000, Maciej Wozniak wrote:

W dniu 11.11.2024 o 14:08, gharnagel pisze:

How does Wozniak KNOW they are "fanatic idiots" and that they're
"lying"?

Have been talking to them for some decades,

Wozniak doesn't even realize that the fanatic lying idiot
is at the other end of the exchange :-))

poor lying

Says the fanatic lying idiot.

piece of shit.

Nice signature.

Wozniak deletes the fact that the accusation is true.

No it is not,

He "doth protest too much, methinks" -- Shakespeare

but your Shit

It's not mine. Wozniak the coprophiliac eats it.

hasn't been training its doggies

"SLANDER"!!!

for telling (or writing) the truth.

Wozniak can't recognize truth when it slaps him in the face.

"Anyone who cannot cope with mathematics is not fully human.
At best he is a tolerable subhuman who has learned to wear
shoes, bathe, and not make messes in the house."
– Robert A. Heinlein

True story.

It was not me screaming about booze

Yes, it was, pink elephants bite him in the butt again! :-))

and marijuana

Yes, it was, purple elephants and green grass bite him in the
butt again! :-))

and it wasn't karma too,

Yes, it was, pink and purple elephants and green grass bite
him in the butt again! :-))

it was Harnagel,

Infantile Wozniak blames others for his own lies and insults.

“‎When you point your finger at someone, anyone, it is often a
moment of judgement. We point our fingers when we want to scold
someone, point out what they have done wrong. But each time we
point, we simultaneously point three fingers back at ourselves.”
– Christopher Pike

And he's mathematically incompetent so he's incapable of
producing a valid criticism of relativity.

poor lying piece of shit.

Says the lying coprophiliac :-))

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On Thu, 7 Nov 2024 21:36:50 +0000, Maciej Wozniak wrote:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second
As seen, the definition of second loved so
much to be invoked by relativistic morons -
wasn't valid in the time when their idiot guru
lived and mumbled. Up to 1960 it was ordinary
1/86400 of a solar day, also in physics.

Now: an observer moving with c/2 wrt
solar system is measuring the length
of solar day. What is the result predicted
by the Einsteinian physics?
One prediction is - 99766. From the
postulates. The second prediction is -
86400. From definition.
And similiarly with the prediction of
a measurement of a meridian.

Thank you for your attention, poor
relativistic fanatics, have a nice day.

Cutting and pasting this nonsense indicates
some kind of obsession, perhaps OCD.

Anyway, it is easily refuted. Place a clock
on earth that can be read by the moving
observer. It will read 86400 seconds/day,
in complete accordance with the definition.
That the observer's clock will read 99766
seconds is in accord with relativity as well
as experimental measurement of time dilation.

Wozniak is conflating two different things
and confusing as well as being confused by
reality. Definitions are human inventions,
the nature of the universe (like time, space
and time dilation) isn't.

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W dniu 08.11.2024 o 00:57, gharnagel pisze:

On Thu, 7 Nov 2024 21:36:50 +0000, Maciej Wozniak wrote:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second
As seen, the definition of second loved so
much to be invoked by relativistic morons -
wasn't valid in the time when their idiot guru
lived and mumbled. Up to 1960 it was ordinary
1/86400 of a solar day, also in physics.


Now: an observer moving with c/2 wrt
solar system is measuring the length
of solar day. What is the result predicted
by the Einsteinian physics?
One prediction is - 99766. From the
postulates. The second prediction is -
86400. From definition.
And similiarly with the prediction of
a measurement of a meridian.


Thank you for your attention, poor
relativistic fanatics, have a nice day.

Cutting and pasting this nonsense indicates
some kind of obsession, perhaps OCD.

Raving, spitting and slandering won't help
anything, the mumble of your idiot guru
remains not even consistent.

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On Fri, 8 Nov 2024 6:18:35 +0000, Maciej Wozniak wrote:

W dniu 08.11.2024 o 00:57, gharnagel pisze:

On Thu, 7 Nov 2024 21:36:50 +0000, Maciej Wozniak wrote:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second
As seen, the definition of second loved so
much to be invoked by relativistic morons -
wasn't valid in the time when their idiot guru
lived and mumbled. Up to 1960 it was ordinary
1/86400 of a solar day, also in physics.

Now: an observer moving with c/2 wrt
solar system is measuring the length
of solar day. What is the result predicted
by the Einsteinian physics?
One prediction is - 99766. From the
postulates. The second prediction is -
86400. From definition.
And similiarly with the prediction of
a measurement of a meridian.

Thank you for your attention, poor
relativistic fanatics, have a nice day.

Cutting and pasting this nonsense indicates
some kind of obsession, perhaps OCD.

Raving, spitting and slandering won't help
anything,

That's right, neither will obsessively reposting
it. So why does Wozniak keep raving, spitting,
"slandering" and reposting this refuted nonsense?

the mumble of your idiot guru

Wozniak is the only one "slandering" here, as he
spits and raves and snarls his insults.

remains not even consistent.

Wozniak is completely unaware that his argument
is ... inconsistent. He even deleted a cogent
rebuttal rather than refute it because it's
irrefutable.

If the postulates that derive the Lorentz transform
equations are correct in a domain of applicability,
then the LTEs are correct in that domain. If the
LTEs are correct, then their conclusions are also
correct, like the relativity of simultaneity, and no
duplicitous jibber jabber can refute it. Wozniak
fails Logic 101.

the skills he needs to produce a right answer are
exactly the skills he doesn't have to recognize
what a right answer is. (D-K effect).

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W dniu 08.11.2024 o 16:18, gharnagel pisze:

On Fri, 8 Nov 2024 6:18:35 +0000, Maciej Wozniak wrote:

W dniu 08.11.2024 o 00:57, gharnagel pisze:

On Thu, 7 Nov 2024 21:36:50 +0000, Maciej Wozniak wrote:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second
As seen, the definition of second loved so
much to be invoked by relativistic morons -
wasn't valid in the time when their idiot guru
lived and mumbled. Up to 1960 it was ordinary
1/86400 of a solar day, also in physics.


Now: an observer moving with c/2 wrt
solar system is measuring the length
of solar day. What is the result predicted
by the Einsteinian physics?
One prediction is - 99766. From the
postulates. The second prediction is -
86400. From definition.
And similiarly with the prediction of
a measurement of a meridian.


Thank you for your attention, poor
relativistic fanatics, have a nice day.

Cutting and pasting this nonsense indicates
some kind of obsession, perhaps OCD.

Raving, spitting and slandering won't help
anything,

That's right,

That's absolutely right and despite mad
ravings of you and your fellow scumbags
the mumble of your idiot guru remains not
even consistent, as it's been proven.

Wozniak is the only one "slandering" here

It was not me screaming about booze and
marijuana and it wasn't karma too,
it was Harnagel, poor lying piece of
shit.

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On Fri, 8 Nov 2024 16:03:23 +0000, Maciej Wozniak wrote:

That's absolutely right and despite mad
ravings of you and your fellow scumbags
the mumble of your idiot guru remains not
even consistent, as it's been proven.

There goes Wozniak again: raving, spitting
and "slandering" over and over again.

Wozniak is the only one "slandering" here

It was not me screaming about booze

Well, yes it was, under the guise of pink
elephants.

and marijuana

Well, yes it was, under the guise of purple
elephants and green grass.

and it wasn't karma too,

Well, yes it was. Every time Wozniak tries to
insult someone, it all comes back to bite him
in the butt.

it was Harnagel,

Infantile Wozniak never takes responsibility
for his own behavior.

poor, lying

Wozniak projects his own dishonest nature on
others. Another example of his refusing to
take responsibility for his own behavior.

piece of shit.

And for his coprophilia, which is why he
enjoys eating his own excrement-laden words.

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W dniu 09.11.2024 o 00:41, gharnagel pisze:

On Fri, 8 Nov 2024 16:03:23 +0000, Maciej Wozniak wrote:

That's absolutely right and despite mad
ravings of you and your fellow scumbags
the mumble of your idiot guru remains not
even consistent, as it's been proven.

There goes Wozniak again: raving, spitting
and "slandering"

It was not me screaming about booze and marijuana
and it wasn't karma too, it was Harnagel, poor,
lying piece of shit.

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