The neutron is a proton tightly fitted with an electron, so there are
only protons and electrons in the universe filled with solid aether.

At the individual level each charge is a concept.

So mass is aggregated concept.

Woof-woof

Bertietaylor

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On Sat, 9 Nov 2024 7:35:40 +0000, Maciej Wozniak wrote:

W dniu 09.11.2024 o 00:34, gharnagel pisze:

On Fri, 8 Nov 2024 16:05:07 +0000, Maciej Wozniak wrote:

It was not me screaming about booze

Well, yes it was, under the guise of pink elephants.

If I called you a pedophile murderer - under
the guise of your relativistic idiocies -
what woould you say,

I wouldn't have to say anything, because it would be
perfectly clear to anyone with a brain that there is
no connection between the situations. But there IS
a connection between pink elephants and alcoholism.

A BIG difference between my narrative and Wozniak's
is that mine is intended to satirize Wozniak's bizarre
hatred for relativity which causes him to put his feet
in his mouth repeatedly.

"Never put both feet in your mouth at the same time,
because then you won't have a leg to stand on."
-- Anon.

His, OTOH, is intended to cause harm, but he even fails
at that because his arguments are absurd nonsense, rank
stupidity.

“I’m allergic to stupidity. I break out in sarcasm.”
– Rebels Market

But let's address the phrase "relativistic idiocies"
that Wozniak likes to throw around, also in an attempt
to cause harm. What is "idiotic" about relativity?
Both special and general relativity have been confirmed
by copious experimental evidence, so Wozniak's belief
system is wildly unrealistic, even delusional.

"It is surely harmful to souls to make it a heresy to
believe what is proved." -- Galileo Galilei

poor lying

Wozniak projects his own dishonesty again.

piece of shit?

The coprophiliac swallows it himself, over and over again.
He seems to be a very poorly built A.I. construct.

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On Sat, 9 Nov 2024 16:26:29 +0000, Maciej Wozniak wrote:

W dniu 09.11.2024 o 15:28, gharnagel pisze:

On Sat, 9 Nov 2024 7:35:40 +0000, Maciej Wozniak wrote:

If I called you a pedophile murderer - under
the guise of your relativistic idiocies -
what woould you say,

I wouldn't have to say anything, because it would be
perfectly clear to anyone with a brain that there is
no connection between the situations. But there IS
a connection between pink elephants and alcoholism.

Neither I have to,

But Wozniak did! :-)

He "doth protest too much, methinks" --Shakespeare

but I like,

He likes having the things he says come back and
bite him in his butt. :-))

"MASOCHIST is a person who derives sexual gratification
from being subjected to physical pain or humiliation"

poor, lying

Wozniak projects his own dishonesty again and again.

piece of shit.

And enjoys his coprophilia which leads to coprophagia.
And he enjoys getting "hoisted by his own petard."
-- Shakespeare again :-))
He keeps trying again and again to throw a bomb, but
it keeps blowing up in his hand. Some people never
learn. If he would behave like a decent human being,
he would be treated like one. Maybe, he knows he's
not a decent human so he says atrocious things as a
form of self-flagellation. Ahh, another serious mental
problem -- in addition to coprophagia, scurrilous
lying bordering on pathological, OCD, substance abuse,
not to mention masochism (oops, I just did mention it)

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/personality-quotient/202006/masochism-explained-the-self-sabotaging-personality

That sure fits Wozniak, alright.

Strange that out of all these mental problems, the only
one he seems to be worried about is substance abuse,
which is the least of his problems.

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On Sun, 10 Nov 2024 8:36:51 +0000, Maciej Wozniak wrote:

W dniu 10.11.2024 o 04:15, gharnagel pisze:

He likes having the things he says come back and
bite him in his butt. :-))

Oppositely, I like the shit relativistic doggies
hurl at me (and other enemies of their moronic
church as well) coming back to them annd biting
their dumb, fanatic asses.

:-)) Fanatic, screaming, insulting Wozniak is delusional
to believe such errant nonsense. His major problem is
that he is mathematically incompetent:

"Anyone who cannot cope with mathematics is not fully human.
At best he is a tolerable subhuman who has learned to wear
shoes, bathe, and not make messes in the house."
– Robert A. Heinlein

Of course, he has other big problems, too:

He keeps repeating that word because he's a coprophiliac
who eats it. He has serious other mental problems, too,
as evidenced by his obsessions about grass and pink and
purple elephants and congenital lying.

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On Sun, 10 Nov 2024 21:00:58 +0000, Maciej Wozniak wrote:

W dniu 10.11.2024 o 15:28, gharnagel pisze:

:-))  Fanatic, screaming, insulting Wozniak is delusional
to believe such errant nonsense.

And fanatic, screaming, insulting Harnagel is delusional
to believe GPS clocks can't be real because they don't
fit his idiocies of time being a part of nature and dilating.

Wozniak is reduced to screaming, "Oh, yeah, well so are you!"
infantile replies. :-)) And then repeating his stupid baloney
that "GPS clocks can't be real" yada yada? The fact is that
the GPS keeps extremely accurate time over the whole earth is
a confirmation of relativity, rather than dishonest Wozniak's
twisted assertion to the contrary. The "information engineer"
is devoid even of knowledge.

"Any fool can know. The point is to understand." ―Albert Einstein

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Stupid, lying, mathematically-incompetent Wozniak defecates worthless
opinions all over the group.

“The highest form of ignorance is when you reject something you don’t
know anything about” – Wayne Dyer

“ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge.”
– Charles Darwin

Unfortunately, Wozniak is worse than ignorant:

“Being ignorant is not so much a shame, as being unwilling to learn.”
-- Benjamin Franklin

As he says, he's been here for decades, but he spouts the same old
worn-out disinformation over and over and over again.

"Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting
different results." -- Albert Einstein

Thou art weighed in the balances, and art found wanting -- Daniel 5:27

"Real knowledge is to know the extent of one's ignorance" –Confucius

Unfortunately, Wozniak rejects information that disagrees with his
prejudices. He's not even a good "information engineer."

“The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it, ignorance may
deride it, but in the end, there it is.” -- Winston Churchill

But Wozniak is just a barking dog:

"You will never reach your destination if you stop and throw stones
at every dog that barks." -- Winston Churchill

And I have miles to go before I sleep. I have tried to awaken
reason within Wozniak's mind but

“To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.” – Thomas Paine

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On Tue, 5 Nov 2024 10:06:24 +0000, J. J. Lodder wrote:

rhertz <hertz778@gmail.com> wrote:

Another curiosity happening in the first 20' of the big bang theory,
currently accepted: the charge e of an electron.

1. Only neutrons and protons exist:

Neutrons: 3 udd quarks (2/3 e - 1/3 e - 1/3 e = 0 e)

Protons: 3 uud quarks (2/3 e + 2/3 e - 1/3 e = + 1 e)

2. When neutrons decay (20'): 1 Proton + (-1 e)

Numbers don't make sense.

Is that electrons are formed by three ddd quarks plus gluons, because
somehow a neutral +1/3 e + (-1/3 e) is created from nowhere during the
decay process, so 1 proton + 1 electron can appear?

I dismissed neutrinos, but one electron neutrino split in two parts with
opposite charges +/- 1/3 and zero mass? The rest is derived from gluons.


https://www.quantumdiaries.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/2000px-Standard_Mode

l_of_Elementary_Particles.svg_.jpg

So you managed to misunderstand even that.
Quarks an gluons don't come into it:
it is a purely weak process.
A down quark decays into an up quark,
with the emission of a (virtual W- boson)
The W- next decays into an electron and an antineutrino.

All completely standard,

Gibberish

Jan

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On Sun, 3 Nov 2024 22:44:45 +0000, rhertz wrote:

....
This article, prior to the super-symmetry theory, serves as an example
of the state of confusion that reigns in some branches of physics.

That preons MUST EXIST, BUT CAN'T EXIST is the essence of the article.

Inside the Quark
https://www.npl.washington.edu/av/altvw80.html

Hey, thanks, Richard. I hadn't seen that article. I've read
other speculations from Cramer that set me off in various
directions but hadn't heard about substructure in quarks and
leptons. While reading the problem of high momentum due to
such tight confinement leading to excessively high energy I
immediately thought of tachyons, which have decreasing energy
as their speed increases, but momentum approaching a constant
of mc. What to my delight, Cramer brings it up!

"Suppose we solve the momentum problem by giving preons a
tachyonic rest mass."

That solves the preon confinement problem! He also says that
the e-neutrino would have a mass-squared of -130 +/- 20 eV^2,
but I couldn't find a reference for that. If neutrinos are
tachyons, the beta decay experiments to determine neutrino
mass-squared should give zero, which is where KATRIN is "zeroing"
in on.

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On Thu, 7 Nov 2024 15:22:36 +0000, Maciej Wozniak babbled:

W dniu 07.11.2024 o 16:02, gharnagel pisze:

That solves the preon confinement problem!  He also says that
the e-neutrino would have a mass-squared of -130 +/- 20 eV^2,
but I couldn't find a reference for that.  If neutrinos are
tachyons, the beta decay experiments to determine neutrino
mass-squared should give zero

And grass should be green, too; and it is,

Not always, there's blue grass and many others:

https://www.highcountrygardens.com/category/perennial-plants/ornamental-grass?msclkid=b71857c95d4715c03a1330e5abe92bb5&utm_source=bing&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=SEM%20NB%20-%20HCG%20-%20Category%20-%20PM%20-%20Grass%20and%20Groundcover%20Seeds&utm_term=
ornamental%20grass&utm_content=SEM%20NB%20-%20HCG%20-%20Category%20-%20PM%20-%20Grass%20and%20Groundcover%20Seeds%20-%20Ornamental%20Grass

Just like there's pink and purple elephants. Wozniak puts his
foot in his mouth again, bringing up grass (i.e., marijuana).

so your tachyons idiocies are magnificiently
confirmed, aren't they,

Nope. There is no confirmation, but there are many indications.

"Observable Features of Tachyon-Dominated Cosmology" (2022)
arXiv:1904.07316v2

"Testing Tachyon-Dominated Cosmology with Type Ia Supernovae" (2024) arXiv:2403.13859

"Knowledge is not gained by pooling ignorance." - Ayn Rand

"When men are full of envy they disparage everything, whether
good or bad." -- Tacitus

poor trash

Nice signature. Wozniak keeps libeling others but it all comes
back and bites him in his butt.

“‎When you point your finger at someone, anyone, it is often a moment of judgement. We point our fingers when we want to scold someone, point
out what they have done wrong. But each time we point, we simultaneously
point three fingers back at ourselves.” – Christopher Pike

It's called karma :-))

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On Thu, 7 Nov 2024 21:35:48 +0000, Maciej Wozniak wrote:

W dniu 07.11.2024 o 18:44, gharnagel pisze:

Nope.

How so? if the tachyons exist - grass is green;
not always, maybe, but usually.
So - confirmation. That's how "logic" of your
bunch of idiots works.

Wozniak deleted the explanation and then asks?
That's the behavior of a fundamentally dishonest
person. He should go read the papers if he were
really interested, but he won't because he isn't
a seeker of truth, but a disinformation clown.

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On Fri, 8 Nov 2024 6:20:07 +0000, Maciej Wozniak wrote:

W dniu 08.11.2024 o 01:08, gharnagel pisze:

Wozniak deleted the explanation and then asks?
That's the behavior of a fundamentally dishonest
person.  He should go read the papers if he were
really interested, but he won't because he isn't
a seeker of truth, but a disinformation clown.

See, poor trash

This is proof that Wozniak is the one "spitting,
insulting and slandering." It is a very immature
individual who won't take responsibility for his
own actions.

- I've proven the mumble of your idiot guru

More of his "spitting, insulting and slandering."

to be inconsistent,

Wozniak's delusional assertion has been soundly
refuted.

and you can do nothing about it apart of spitting,
insulting and slandering.

Wozniak is projecting his own despicable behavior.

And you're just doing what you can for your beloved
Shit

He keeps repeating that word because he's a coprophiliac
who eats it. He has serious other mental problems, too,
as evidenced by his obsessions about grass and pink and
purple elephants and congenital lying.

and your beloved church.

Long live Saint Albert! :-))

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On Fri, 8 Nov 2024 16:05:07 +0000, Maciej Wozniak wrote:

It was not me screaming about booze

Well, yes it was, under the guise of pink elephants.

and marijuana

Well, yes it was, under the guise of purple elephants
and green grass.

and it wasn't karma too,

Well, yes it was. Everytime Wozniak tries to insult
someone, it all comes back to bite him in the butt.

it was Harnagel,

Infantile Wozniak never takes responsibility for his
own behavior.

poor, lying

Wozniak projects his own dishonest nature on others.
Another example of his refusing to take responsibility
for his own behavior.

piece of shit.

And for his coprophilia, which is why he enjoys eating
his own excrement-laden words.

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On Mon, 11 Nov 2024 18:21:39 +0000, Maciej Wozniak wrote:

W dniu 11.11.2024 o 18:09, gharnagel pisze:

Stupid, lying, mathematically-incompetent Wozniak defecates
worthless opinions all over the group.

See, poor trash-

“The more you know, the dumber you sound to stupid people.”
-- Anonymous

“Physics isn't the most important thing. Love is.”
-- Richard P. Feynman

I've proven the mumble of your idiot guru to be inconsistent,
and you can do nothing about it

I've already done something about it. I've refuted Wozniak's
benighted rambling.

"The person who says it cannot be done should not interrupt
the person doing it." --Chinese proverb

apart of spitting, insulting and slandering.

Nope, just pointing out Wozniak's errors.

“Let me never fall into the vulgar mistake of dreaming that I am
persecuted whenever I am contradicted.” -- Ralph Waldo Emerson

And you're just doing what you can for your beloved
Shit

"Always keep your words soft and sweet, just in case you have
to eat them." -- Anon.

Which Wozniak has done over and over again.

and your beloved church.

Long live Saint Albert!

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On Tue, 12 Nov 2024 23:26:34 +0000, Maciej Wozniak wrote:

W dniu 12.11.2024 o 20:35, gharnagel pisze:

On Mon, 11 Nov 2024 18:21:39 +0000, Maciej Wozniak wrote:

I've proven the mumble of your idiot guru to be inconsistent,
and you can do nothing about it

I've already done something about it.

Yes, but nothing apart spitting, ionsulting
and slandering, as expected from a good
relativistic doggie.

Wozniak has either a poor or a selective one. Speaking of
his "inconsistency proof":

Anyway, it is easily refuted. Place a clock
on earth that can be read by the moving
observer. It will read 86400 seconds/day,
in complete accordance with the definition.
That the observer's clock will read 99766
seconds is in accord with relativity as well
as experimental measurement of time dilation.

Wozniak is conflating two different things
and confusing as well as being confused by
reality. Definitions are human inventions,
the nature of the universe (like time, space
and time dilation) isn't.

Like relativity, definitions are relative:

"The shepherd drives the wolf from the sheep's throat,
for which the sheep thanks the shepherd as his liberator,
while the wolf denounces him for the same act as the
destroyer of liberty. Plainly, the sheep and the wolf are
not agreed upon a definition of liberty."
-- Abraham Lincoln

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On Wed, 13 Nov 2024 22:38:27 +0000, Maciej Wozniak wrote:

W dniu 13.11.2024 o 16:29, gharnagel pisze:

Anyway, [Wozniak's inconsistent assertion]
is easily refuted.  Place a clock
on earth that can be read by the moving
observer.  It will read 86400 seconds/day,
in complete accordance with the definition.
That the observer's clock will read 99766
seconds is in accord with relativity as

That he allegedly will - is inconsistent with
the definition

Wozniak doesn't realize that "definitions" are
human constructs, subject to correction when
found inconsistent with reality. This has
happened many many times, and Wozniak deletes
an example of this which disproves his whole
assertion:

"The shepherd drives the wolf from the sheep's throat,
for which the sheep thanks the shepherd as his liberator,
while the wolf denounces him for the same act as the
destroyer of liberty. Plainly, the sheep and the wolf are
not agreed upon a definition of liberty."
-- Abraham Lincoln

valid in your moronic church when your idiot guru
was living and mumbling.

Wozniak screams "Slander!" when his foibles are pointed
out yet he thinks nothing of his own profane defilement
of honest humans.

QED.

I don't believe Wozniak has even read Quantum ElectroDynamics.

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On Fri, 15 Nov 2024 21:12:13 +0000, Maciej Wozniak wrote:

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