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  • REASONS RELATIVISTS GIVE FOR DOUBLED DEFLECTION OF NEWTON'S:

    From LaurenceClarkCrossen@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jun 29 13:43:05 2024
    REASONS RELATIVISTS GIVE FOR DOUBLED DEFLECTION OF NEWTON'S:

    1. Newton's plus curved space.
    2. Gravity plus gravitational potential.
    3. 2 spin photons.
    4.

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  • From LaurenceClarkCrossen@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jun 30 03:36:59 2024
    Doubling Newtonan affect of gravity for light violates Galileo's finding
    that all masses are affected the same and Eotvos finding that all
    materials are affected the same. This has never been justified by
    relativity and cannot be. It is extremely ad hoc.

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  • From Maciej Wozniak@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jun 30 11:59:46 2024
    W dniu 30.06.2024 o 11:45, Mikko pisze:
    On 2024-06-29 13:43:05 +0000, LaurenceClarkCrossen said:

    REASONS RELATIVISTS GIVE FOR DOUBLED DEFLECTION OF NEWTON'S:

    1. Newton's plus curved space.
    2. Gravity plus gravitational potential.
    3. 2 spin photons.
    4.


    4. Newton's prediction is half of the correct value.


    Let's add - Newton's prediction in his optics.
    A relativistic piece of shit, of course, doesn't
    care that Newton's optics was abandoned in 18th
    century.

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  • From Mikko@21:1/5 to LaurenceClarkCrossen on Sun Jun 30 12:45:14 2024
    On 2024-06-29 13:43:05 +0000, LaurenceClarkCrossen said:

    REASONS RELATIVISTS GIVE FOR DOUBLED DEFLECTION OF NEWTON'S:

    1. Newton's plus curved space.
    2. Gravity plus gravitational potential.
    3. 2 spin photons.
    4.


    4. Newton's prediction is half of the correct value.

    --
    Mikko

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  • From J. J. Lodder@21:1/5 to Mikko on Sun Jun 30 22:15:58 2024
    Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> wrote:

    On 2024-06-29 13:43:05 +0000, LaurenceClarkCrossen said:

    REASONS RELATIVISTS GIVE FOR DOUBLED DEFLECTION OF NEWTON'S:

    Don't reason, solve the equations.

    1. Newton's plus curved space.
    2. Gravity plus gravitational potential.
    3. 2 spin photons.
    4.


    4. Newton's prediction is half of the correct value.

    And it was a completely ad-hoc 'prediction' to begin with.
    (and Newton never even thought of it)

    Using Huygens instead, one would have predicted a zero deflection.
    There just wasn't any meaningful connection between light and gravity
    until Einstein formulated the equivalence principle,

    Jan

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  • From LaurenceClarkCrossen@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jun 30 21:42:22 2024
    What kind of a mathematician does the math without knowing the reasons?
    A crooked bookie.
    The equivalence principle is facile nonsense.
    Light is not affected by gravity.

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  • From Maciej Wozniak@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jul 1 07:20:12 2024
    W dniu 30.06.2024 o 22:15, J. J. Lodder pisze:
    Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> wrote:

    On 2024-06-29 13:43:05 +0000, LaurenceClarkCrossen said:

    REASONS RELATIVISTS GIVE FOR DOUBLED DEFLECTION OF NEWTON'S:

    Don't reason, solve the equations.

    1. Newton's plus curved space.
    2. Gravity plus gravitational potential.
    3. 2 spin photons.
    4.


    4. Newton's prediction is half of the correct value.

    And it was a completely ad-hoc 'prediction' to begin with.
    (and Newton never even thought of it)

    Using Huygens instead, one would have predicted a zero deflection.
    There just wasn't any meaningful connection between light and gravity



    A lie, of course, as expected from
    relativistic scum. Any lie to conclude
    "Evil Newton falsified!!!!!!!!!!"
    Using Huygens one would predict nothing.
    There just wasn't any meaningful connection
    between light and gravity.

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  • From Paul B. Andersen@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jul 1 21:49:39 2024
    Den 30.06.2024 23:42, skrev LaurenceClarkCrossen:
    Light is not affected by gravity.


    https://paulba.no/paper/PPN_gamma_Hipparcos.pdf https://paulba.no/paper/PPN_gamma_Cassini.pdf https://paulba.no/paper/GravDeflection.pdf
    https://paulba.no/paper/Fomalont.pdf https://paulba.no/paper/PPN_gamma_Cassini_2.pdf

    There is no way you can claim to be ignorant of
    the fact that light is deflected when it passes
    massive objects like stars.

    Don't you understand how stupid it is to claim what
    is proved false?


    --
    Paul

    https://paulba.no/

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  • From J. J. Lodder@21:1/5 to LaurenceClarkCrossen on Mon Jul 1 22:10:30 2024
    LaurenceClarkCrossen <clzb93ynxj@att.net> wrote:

    What kind of a mathematician does the math without knowing the reasons?

    All of them.
    If they care about reasons they are mathematical physicists,

    Jan

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  • From J. J. Lodder@21:1/5 to LaurenceClarkCrossen on Tue Jul 2 09:35:47 2024
    LaurenceClarkCrossen <clzb93ynxj@att.net> wrote:

    The equivalence principle is facile nonsense.
    Light is not affected by gravity.

    That is precisely what the equivalence principle says,
    (among oher things)

    Jan

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