i notice
some of yous
still mentioned
dat theory
you call inflation
theory.

there is no inflation theory.

dats a fact, jack.

ireffutable.

--
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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On Friday, October 13, 2023 at 5:06:59 PM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:

i notice
some of yous
still mentioned
dat theory
you call inflation
theory.

there is no inflation theory.

It qualifies. It is real. Big Bang initial expansion of emptiness
is necessary. A singularities gravity would be in the way.
but inflation before gravity would solve it.

dats a fact, jack.

How can you get rid of a theory?

ireffutable.

--
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to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:

On Friday, October 13, 2023 at 5:06:59 PM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:

i notice
some of yous
still mentioned
dat theory
you call inflation
theory.

there is no inflation theory.

It qualifies. It is real. Big Bang initial expansion of emptiness
is necessary. A singularities gravity would be in the way.
but inflation before gravity would solve it.

dats a fact, jack.

How can you get rid of a theory?

ireffutable.

Ask the guy who invented the inflation theory.

--
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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On Tuesday, October 17, 2023 at 10:44:14 AM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:

mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:

On Friday, October 13, 2023 at 5:06:59 PM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:

i notice
some of yous
still mentioned
dat theory
you call inflation
theory.

there is no inflation theory.

It qualifies. It is real. Big Bang initial expansion of emptiness
is necessary. A singularities gravity would be in the way.
but inflation before gravity would solve it.

dats a fact, jack.

How can you get rid of a theory?

ireffutable.

Ask the guy who invented the inflation theory.

The man was on to something.
The universe was empty dimension that
expanded first before gravity. Or gravity
would be in the way for a Quantum universe
falling back on itself. Inflation takes
away where gravity would prevent the BB
beginning.

--
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:

On Tuesday, October 17, 2023 at 10:44:14 AM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:

mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:

On Friday, October 13, 2023 at 5:06:59 PM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:

i notice
some of yous
still mentioned
dat theory
you call inflation
theory.

there is no inflation theory.

It qualifies. It is real. Big Bang initial expansion of emptiness
is necessary. A singularities gravity would be in the way.
but inflation before gravity would solve it.

dats a fact, jack.

How can you get rid of a theory?

ireffutable.

Ask the guy who invented the inflation theory.

The man was on to something.
The universe was empty dimension that
expanded first before gravity. Or gravity
would be in the way for a Quantum universe
falling back on itself. Inflation takes
away where gravity would prevent the BB
beginning.

It's always from the very beginning been a fraud


https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/paul-steinhardt-disowns-inflation-the-theory-he-helped-create/


these people just make up stuff all the time....


dats science..


in search of fools.





--
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to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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On Friday, October 20, 2023 at 12:44:37 PM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:

mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:

On Tuesday, October 17, 2023 at 10:44:14 AM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:

mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:

On Friday, October 13, 2023 at 5:06:59 PM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:

i notice
some of yous
still mentioned
dat theory
you call inflation
theory.

there is no inflation theory.

It qualifies. It is real. Big Bang initial expansion of emptiness
is necessary. A singularities gravity would be in the way.
but inflation before gravity would solve it.

dats a fact, jack.

How can you get rid of a theory?

ireffutable.

Ask the guy who invented the inflation theory.

The man was on to something.
The universe was empty dimension that
expanded first before gravity. Or gravity
would be in the way for a Quantum universe
falling back on itself. Inflation takes
away where gravity would prevent the BB
beginning.

It's always from the very beginning been a fraud

How are you going to prove it. There is a reason it is correct.

Mitchell Raemsch

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/paul-steinhardt-disowns-inflation-the-theory-he-helped-create/

these people just make up stuff all the time....

dats science..

in search of fools.
--
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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On Saturday, 21 October 2023 at 15:17:45 UTC+2, Gary Harnagel wrote:

How can you get rid of a theory?

By showing it assumptions are invalid.

It's not that easy, Harrie. The Shit of your idiot guru
was not even consistent, it was demonstrated here
many times - but it doesn't impress its worshippers
at all.

“It could make sense to suppose that our own Universe is the only one
that can exist or does exist …. Once, however, evidence arises that
there is a second Universe as well, … then it becomes absolutely ridiculous to suppose that there are two and only two Universes.

Fortunately, there is no more evidence for a second univrse
than for purple unicorns spitting with acid.

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On Friday, October 20, 2023 at 1:44:37 PM UTC-6, The Starmaker wrote:

mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:

On Tuesday, October 17, 2023 at 10:44:14 AM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:

mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:

On Friday, October 13, 2023 at 5:06:59 PM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:

i notice
some of yous
still mentioned
dat theory
you call inflation
theory.

there is no inflation theory.

It qualifies. It is real. Big Bang initial expansion of emptiness
is necessary. A singularities gravity would be in the way.
but inflation before gravity would solve it.

dats a fact, jack.

How can you get rid of a theory?

By showing it assumptions are invalid.

ireffutable.

Ask the guy who invented the inflation theory.

The man was on to something.
The universe was empty dimension that
expanded first before gravity. Or gravity
would be in the way for a Quantum universe
falling back on itself. Inflation takes
away where gravity would prevent the BB
beginning.

The BBT presumes that spacetime wasn't everywhere to
begin with and all matter/energy was localized. How much
matter'energy? A hundred billion galaxy's worth? According
to the Schwarzschild metric, how big would the radius be?

Rs = 2GM/c^2
Rs = 2*6.67x10^-11*10^11*Msun*N/9x10^16 = 3x10^15 N

where N is the average number of solar masses per galaxy.
So what is N, a billion? a hundred billion? No matter.

A light-year is about 10^16 meters, so Rs =0.3N light-years!
So even if the average galaxy size is only 10 billion suns, Rs
would be 3 billion light-years. Wouldn't that require spacetiime
to be at least as big?

It's always from the very beginning been a fraud

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/paul-steinhardt-disowns-inflation-the-theory-he-helped-create/

these people just make up stuff all the time....

dats science..

in search of fools.
--
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge the unchallengeable.

Steinhardt moved on to the ekpyrotic theory, which assumes an adjacent braneworld which interacts with ours at the quantum level:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ekpyrotic_universe

I think they may have gone off course, because if two braneworlds exist, there's no logical reason to limit it to two:

“It could make sense to suppose that our own Universe is the only one
that can exist or does exist …. Once, however, evidence arises that
there is a second Universe as well, … then it becomes absolutely
ridiculous to suppose that there are two and only two Universes. If a
second Universe can exist, then an infinite number can.” – Isaac Asimov

Also, if the big bang or the ekpyrotic event can happen once, why couldn't
the same conditions occur again in our universe/braneworld? Maybe our beginning wasn't the first even. There's dead stars out there trillions of light-years away! Hooray!

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On Saturday, October 21, 2023 at 8:09:34 AM UTC-6, Maciej Wozniak dissembled:

On Saturday, 21 October 2023 at 15:17:45 UTC+2, Gary Harnagel wrote:

How can you get rid of a theory?

By showing it assumptions are invalid.

It's not that easy, Harrie. The Shit of your idiot guru
was not even consistent,

So Wozzie-boy is now an expert on constipation. In figures.

it was demonstrated here many times

Wozzie-boy hasn't "demonstrated anything except his cranial
constipation. He sits on stool fantazing about the GPS.

- but it doesn't impress its worshippers at all.

That's because such a group is nonexistent. Wozzie-boy
fantasizes about that, too.

“It could make sense to suppose that our own Universe is the only one that can exist or does exist …. Once, however, evidence arises that there is a second Universe as well, … then it becomes absolutely ridiculous to suppose that there are two and only two Universes.

Fortunately, there is no more evidence for a second univrse
than for purple unicorns spitting with acid.

It's an idea, something Wozzie-boy has never had.

"If you want to have good ideas, you must have many ideas.'
– Linus Pauling

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On Saturday, 21 October 2023 at 16:57:25 UTC+2, Gary Harnagel wrote:

On Saturday, October 21, 2023 at 8:09:34 AM UTC-6, Maciej Wozniak dissembled:

On Saturday, 21 October 2023 at 15:17:45 UTC+2, Gary Harnagel wrote:

How can you get rid of a theory?

By showing it assumptions are invalid.

It's not that easy, Harrie. The Shit of your idiot guru
was not even consistent,

So Wozzie-boy is now an expert on constipation. In figures.

it was demonstrated here many times

Wozzie-boy hasn't "demonstrated anything except his cranial

Rave and spit, poor halbrain - youj can't change the fact that the
mumble of your idiot guru has been proven inconsistent.
Neither the fact that GPS clocks are real.

Fortunately, there is no more evidence for a second univrse
than for purple unicorns spitting with acid.

It's an idea

So is a purple unicorn spitting with acid, Harrie.

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On Saturday, October 21, 2023 at 1:07:58 PM UTC-6, Maciej Wozniak Lied:

On Saturday, 21 October 2023 at 16:57:25 UTC+2, Gary Harnagel wrote

:
On Saturday, October 21, 2023 at 8:09:34 AM UTC-6, Maciej Wozniak dissembled:

On Saturday, 21 October 2023 at 15:17:45 UTC+2, Gary Harnagel wrote:

How can you get rid of a theory?

By showing it assumptions are invalid.

It's not that easy, Harrie. The Shit of your idiot guru
was not even consistent,

So Wozzie-boy is now an expert on constipation. In figures.

it was demonstrated here many times

Wozzie-boy hasn't "demonstrated anything except his cranial
constipation. He sits on stool fantazing about the GPS.

Rave and spit, poor halbrain - youj can't change the fact that the
mumble of your idiot guru has been proven inconsistent.

Wozzie-boy's spitting and raving about "inconsistency" exists
only in his delusional pea-brain.

Neither the fact that GPS clocks are real.

Only from Wozzie-boy's delusional fantasy.

Fortunately, there is no more evidence for a second univrse
than for purple unicorns spitting with acid.

It's an idea, something Wozzie-boy has never had.
"If you want to have good ideas, you must have many ideas.'
– Linus Pauling

So is a purple unicorn spitting with acid, Harrie.

So now Wozzie-boy believes he's a purple unicorn. Wozzie-corn
has had only one good idea in his life: he decided to get up on
the commode instead of doing it on the floor.

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On Sunday, 22 October 2023 at 01:50:36 UTC+2, Gary Harnagel wrote:

On Saturday, October 21, 2023 at 1:07:58 PM UTC-6, Maciej Wozniak Lied:

On Saturday, 21 October 2023 at 16:57:25 UTC+2, Gary Harnagel wrote

:
On Saturday, October 21, 2023 at 8:09:34 AM UTC-6, Maciej Wozniak dissembled:

On Saturday, 21 October 2023 at 15:17:45 UTC+2, Gary Harnagel wrote:

How can you get rid of a theory?

By showing it assumptions are invalid.

It's not that easy, Harrie. The Shit of your idiot guru
was not even consistent,

So Wozzie-boy is now an expert on constipation. In figures.

it was demonstrated here many times

Wozzie-boy hasn't "demonstrated anything except his cranial
constipation. He sits on stool fantazing about the GPS.

Rave and spit, poor halbrain - youj can't change the fact that the
mumble of your idiot guru has been proven inconsistent.

Wozzie-boy's spitting and raving about "inconsistency" exists
only in his delusional pea-brain.

I've presented a proof. You've presented
parking and spitting, so have your fellow idiots.

Neither the fact that GPS clocks are real.

Only from Wozzie-boy's delusional fantasy.

Great, GPS clocks are my delusional fantasy.
That's what The Shit is making to the brains of
its victims.

So is a purple unicorn spitting with acid, Harrie.

So now Wozzie-boy believes he's a purple unicorn.

So now Harrie boy is fabricating, lying and
slandering.
As expected from relativistic trash.

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On 14-Oct-23 11:07 am, The Starmaker wrote:

i notice
some of yous
still mentioned
dat theory
you call inflation
theory.

there is no inflation theory.

You may question whether the inflation occurred, but the theory itself
clearly exists.

Sylvia.

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On Sunday, October 22, 2023 at 5:17:29 AM UTC-6, Sylvia Else wrote:

On 14-Oct-23 11:07 am, The Starmaker wrote:

i notice
some of yous
still mentioned
dat theory
you call inflation
theory.

there is no inflation theory.

You may question whether the inflation occurred, but the theory itself clearly exists.

Sylvia.

But so does its alternative:

“Inflation isn’t falsifiable, it’s falsified… BICEP did a wonderful service
by bringing all the Inflationists out of their shell, and giving them a
black eye.” - Roger Penrose

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On Sunday, October 22, 2023 at 4:17:08 AM UTC-6, Maciej Wozniak lied:

On Sunday, 22 October 2023 at 01:50:36 UTC+2, Gary Harnagel wrote:

On Saturday, October 21, 2023 at 1:07:58 PM UTC-6, Maciej Wozniak Lied:

On Saturday, 21 October 2023 at 16:57:25 UTC+2, Gary Harnagel wrote

On Saturday, October 21, 2023 at 8:09:34 AM UTC-6, Maciej Wozniak dissembled:

It's not that easy, Harrie. The Shit of your idiot guru
was not even consistent,

So Wozzie-boy is now an expert on constipation. In figures.

it was demonstrated here many times

Wozzie-boy hasn't "demonstrated anything except his cranial constipation. He sits on stool fantazing about the GPS.

Rave and spit, poor halbrain - youj can't change the fact that the mumble of your idiot guru has been proven inconsistent.

Wozzie-boy's spitting and raving about "inconsistency" exists
only in his delusional pea-brain.

I've presented a proof.

This is Wozzie-stool's delusional nonsense. He pretends that there
is no time dilation because the GPS clocks, which have been offset
to counteract time dilation, agree with earth clocks, which is the
whole purpose of offsetting them in the first place. He is either a
congenital liar of a delusional fool. There is no other possibility.

You've presented parking and spitting,

More delusional stupidity. Proof has been demonstrated to this
congenital idiot many times. One more time:

"The engineers who designed the GPS system included these relativistic
effects when they designed and deployed the system. For example, to
counteract the General Relativistic effect once on orbit, the onboard clocks were designed to "tick" at a slower frequency than ground reference clocks,
so that once they were in their proper orbit stations their clocks would
appear to tick at about the correct rate as compared to the reference atomic clocks at the GPS ground stations. Further, each GPS receiver has built into
it a microcomputer that, in addition to performing the calculation of position using 3D trilateration, will also compute any additional special relativistic timing calculations required [3], using data provided by the satellites." https://www.astronomy.ohio-state.edu/pogge.1/Ast162/Unit5/gps

"At the time of launch of the first NTS-2 satellite (June 1977), which contained
the first Cesium clock to be placed in orbit, there were some who doubted that relativistic effects were real. A frequency synthesizer was built into the satellite
clock system so that after launch, if in fact the rate of the clock in its final orbit
was that predicted by GR, then the synthesizer could be turned on bringing the clock to the coordinate rate necessary for operation. The atomic clock was first
operated for about 20 days to measure its clock rate before turning on the syn- thesizer. The frequency measured during that interval was +442.5 parts in 1012 faster than clocks on the ground; if left uncorrected this would have resulted in
timing errors of about 38,000 nanoseconds per day." http://www.leapsecond.com/history/Ashby-Relativity.htm

so have your fellow idiots.

Wozzie-fool is the real idiot posting vacuous bool poop over and over and over again. His demented posts prove Einstein right once again:

"Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." -- Albert Einstein

Neither the fact that GPS clocks are real.

Only from Wozzie-boy's delusional fantasy.

Great, GPS clocks are my delusional fantasy.

Your delusion about GPS clocks is your fantasy, proving you're despicable:

That's what The Shit is making to the brains of its victims.

Get back on the pot, Wozzie-poop and stop doing it on the floor.

So is a purple unicorn spitting with acid, Harrie.

So now Wozzie-boy believes he's a purple unicorn.

So now Harrie boy is fabricating, lying and slandering.
As expected from relativistic trash.

Turn about is fair play, Wozzie-pooping-fool :-))

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On Sunday, 22 October 2023 at 16:36:08 UTC+2, Gary Harnagel wrote:

On Sunday, October 22, 2023 at 4:17:08 AM UTC-6, Maciej Wozniak lied:

On Sunday, 22 October 2023 at 01:50:36 UTC+2, Gary Harnagel wrote:

On Saturday, October 21, 2023 at 1:07:58 PM UTC-6, Maciej Wozniak Lied:

On Saturday, 21 October 2023 at 16:57:25 UTC+2, Gary Harnagel wrote

On Saturday, October 21, 2023 at 8:09:34 AM UTC-6, Maciej Wozniak dissembled:

It's not that easy, Harrie. The Shit of your idiot guru
was not even consistent,

So Wozzie-boy is now an expert on constipation. In figures.

it was demonstrated here many times

Wozzie-boy hasn't "demonstrated anything except his cranial constipation. He sits on stool fantazing about the GPS.

Rave and spit, poor halbrain - youj can't change the fact that the mumble of your idiot guru has been proven inconsistent.

Wozzie-boy's spitting and raving about "inconsistency" exists
only in his delusional pea-brain.

I've presented a proof.

This is Wozzie-stool's delusional nonsense. He pretends that there

I've presented a proof, you and your fellow idiots have presented
spitting and slanders. As expected from stupid, fanatic scum.

"The engineers who designed the GPS system included these relativistic effects

If they did, you wouldn't have to mumble that what they did
is not real. Would you, poor halfbrain?

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On Sunday, October 22, 2023 at 6:59:12 AM UTC-7, Gary Harnagel wrote:

On Sunday, October 22, 2023 at 5:17:29 AM UTC-6, Sylvia Else wrote:

On 14-Oct-23 11:07 am, The Starmaker wrote:

i notice
some of yous
still mentioned
dat theory
you call inflation
theory.

there is no inflation theory.

You may question whether the inflation occurred, but the theory itself clearly exists.

Sylvia.

But so does its alternative:

“Inflation isn’t falsifiable, it’s falsified… BICEP did a wonderful service
by bringing all the Inflationists out of their shell, and giving them a black eye.” - Roger Penrose

How did science falsify something that happened at the BB?
Penrose wants his authority instead...
There is a reason inflation happened.
The gravity of the early Quantum universe
would re collapse it. Gravity would be in
the way. But if empty dimension expanding came first
the BB could start. Inflation necessarily spread out gravitation
so the BB could happen.

Mitchell Raemsch

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