• Re: Mugshots Are Great Again - Welcome To The New MAGA!

    From Klaus Schadenfreude@21:1/5 to All on Sat Aug 26 11:10:54 2023
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    [Default] Rudy "Cunt Flaps" Canoza typed:

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    Rudy "Cunt Flaps" Canoza
    Vandalism of follow ups in an impotent attempt
    to stop being bitch-slapped into next week
    repaired and restored. ======================================

    I hate the Constitution. Yes.

    We already knew that, "Cunt Flaps."

    No, the Constitution does *not* say what the government may not do.
    - Rudy, stupidly demonstrating his complete ignorance of the
    Constitution and claiming the Bill of Rights doesn't exist.
    Message-ID: <FN6fL.17220$fg35.3176@fx10.iad>

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  • From pothead@21:1/5 to Ubiquitous on Mon Aug 28 17:41:15 2023
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    On 2023-08-28, Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
    In article <ucd9en$lbbr$1@dont-email.me>, nowomr@protonmail.com wrote:

    Say cheese and enjoy these 25 memes of Donald TrumpÂ’s presidential mugshot >> https://thetab.com/uk/2023/08/25/donald-trump-mugshot-memes-325786

    OK, some of those are funny.

    ============================================================================

    2006: "Marriage is between a man and a woman and states must respect that," Joe
    Biden said.

    Biden opposed same-sex marriage when he and Obama were first elected in 2008.

    He opposed it when he was running against Obama for the Democratic nomination.

    He opposed it in the earlier Meet the Press interview.

    And he opposed it in the United States Senate.

    Biden voted for the Defense of Marriage Act as a senator from Delaware in 1996.
    It prevented federal recognition of same-sex marriages and allowed states to do
    the same for same-sex marriages performed in other states.

    Biden's views on same-sex marriage have never been cutting edge. When majorities opposed it, so did he. Once support for same-sex marriage became the
    mainstream Democratic position, Biden adopted it.

    That is why Biden "got into trouble" with Obama for his gay marriage endorsement. Obama and Biden were under activist pressure for being late to supporting same-sex marriage. By the time Biden announced his new stand, most rank-and-file Democrats were already on board. Preempting Obama made him look bad with liberals.

    Obama and Biden had hesitated because of residual opposition from Hispanic and
    especially black voters. Black Californians voted in 2008 for Obama and Biden,
    and to define marriage as a man and a woman by passing the ballot initiative Proposition 8.

    The sincerity of their opposition to same-sex marriage by that time could be called into question - in his 2006 Meet the Press interview, Biden was invoking
    the Defense of Marriage Act in part to explain his opposition to a Republican-
    backed federal marriage amendment - but it remained reflected in federal law until the Supreme Court handed down Obergefell v. Hodges. Public support for same-sex marriage hit 60% in Gallup the month before the decision.

    The other issue is the strident tone Biden and his team have taken toward people who continue to espouse the same position on marriage he held for most of his adult life. Biden said he was striking a "blow against hate." Jean- Pierre spoke of "extremist conservatives who appear bent on taking away fundamental rights, including marriage equality."

    Liberals may be shell-shocked by the reversal of Roe v. Wade earlier this year,
    and frequently invoked a stray sentence on substantive due process in Justice Clarence Thomas's concurring opinion which wasn't joined by any other justice and isn't supported by Justice Samuel Alito's majority opinion. But there is no
    comparison between the nearly 50-year legal and political campaign to overturn
    Roe, which came within one vote of being reversed 30 years ago, and the remaining anti-Obergefell activities.

    That's why the Respect for Marriage Act, essentially codifying Obergefell, sailed through Congress and a bill ostensibly codifying Roe couldn't get majority support in a Democratic-controlled Senate.

    How Biden speaks of faith-based and traditional views of marriage matters because of ongoing religious liberty concerns. Opponents believed the Respect for Marriage Act's religious liberty protections were weak. Others maintain they went too far.

    "There's a section here that speaks to the ability of nonprofit religious organizations, faith-based social agencies, educational institutions, employees
    of those organizations to deny services, accommodations, facilities, goods, advantages, privileges to gay couples," a reporter said to Jean-Pierre at Tuesday's White House briefing. "So how is that not codifying discrimination?"

    Biden, the second Catholic president, may face political pressure from those who believe religious liberty exemptions are codified discrimination.

    "My wife said I was the most socially conservative man she had ever known," Biden told an interviewer when he was a freshman senator.


    Last night, for the first time in American history, we saw a mugshot of a former president. Donald Trump was officially arrested at Fulton County jail in Georgia. Unlike with the other 900 indictments, this time they decided to take and publish his mugshot. There was, of course, no legitimate reason to take a mugshot of a former president. The whole purpose of a mugshot is to provide law enforcement with photographic documentation of the suspect. But Donald Trump is the most recognizable and famous person in the world — possibly in the history of the world. When he shows up for trial they aren’t going to have to refer back to his mugshot to make sure it’s really him. There isn’t going to be anyone saying, “Wait, is that Donald Trump? It’s hard
    to tell. Pull up his mug shot.”

    So why did they take this step? What was the point? The point of course was pure humiliation and vengeance. It was also to give the DA, Fani Willis, a political trophy to put on her wall. It’s something that she wants to use when she inevitably runs for the Senate, or governor, in a few years. Of course, it all backfired, as it was always destined to. The mugshot instantly became an iconic image, and had exactly the effect that any half-conscious political observer knew it would have — rallying the base around Trump. Trump
    is now fundraising off of the image — and smartly so — and will likely raise
    many millions just from the mugshot alone. In fact, we can say that if Donald Trump does manage to get elected to the presidency again, Fani Willis will be largely responsible for it. She is the most effective campaign manager Trump has ever had, even if unintentionally.

    But even if this all obviously works to TrumpÂ’s advantage, that doesnÂ’t make
    it any less outrageous. Nor should we be distracted from the lessons that this moment is trying to teach us. The most obvious one is that the Left is beyond caring about even the pretense of legitimacy — something they used to pretend to care deeply about. In fact, through this whole ordeal, they’re not
    even acting like they’ve stopped some grave threat to democracy — because they know they’ve done the exact opposite of that. They are wielding raw political power for the sole, lawless purpose of incarcerating someone who stands a very real chance of winning the presidential election in a little over a year.

    In fact, many on the Left don’t want Trump incarcerated — they want him killed. An MSNBC anchor just openly fantasized about Donald Trump getting shanked and murdered in prison. Watch:

    Nicolle Wallace literally has to stifle a laugh as she remarks that
    Trump is heading to a jail where three people have died over the last
    month.

    Everyone at MSNBC is a ghoul. pic.twitter.com/auHpRfJ4by

    — Bill D'Agostino (@Banned_Bill) August 24, 2023

    WeÂ’ve played a lot of demented clips on this show over the years. That one is
    up there. Not long ago, Nicole Wallace was running comms for the White House during the Iraq war. Back then, she had to pretend to care about the deaths of innocent people at the hands of establishment Washington.

    These people will do everything they can to silence Donald Trump. MSNBC and CNN, after obsessively covering TrumpÂ’s trip to Georgia all day, made a point
    of cutting away from his remarks yesterday. Watch:

    CNN didnÂ’t carry TrumpÂ’s remarks live either
    pic.twitter.com/Up9wr5eAHe
    — Acyn (@Acyn) August 25, 2023

    Maddow: If he does that, we're not gonna take those remarks liveÂ… as
    we said in the past there is a cost to us as a news organization of
    knowingly broadcasting untrue things.
    pic.twitter.com/OCakKmeg1d
    — Acyn (@Acyn) August 25, 2023

    If the statement “we’ll get sued if we air the remarks of the former president after his indictment” is, in fact, remotely accurate, then any self-respecting journalist would air the remarks anyway. They’d fight any consequences for it in court. If the First Amendment protects anything, it’s airing the words of a former president at a time like this. But MSNBC’s statement isn’t true, of course. It’s a dumb jab at Fox News over the Dominion lawsuit, and it protects their viewers from hearing about the substance in these indictments, or lack thereof. That’s why they do it.

    HereÂ’s what theyÂ’re not telling viewers at MSNBC. The Fulton County DA, Fani
    Willis, has indicted Donald Trump, along with 18 co-defendants, for the following crimes: Offering legal advice to the president, tweeting things that Fani Willis doesnÂ’t like, and, in one particularly egregious case, getting someoneÂ’s phone number.

    The indictment states: “On or about the 21st Day of November 2020, Mark Randall Meadows sent a text message to United States Representative Scott Perry from Pennsylvania and stated, ‘Can you send me the number for the speaker and the leader of PA Legislature. POTUS wants to chat with them.’ This was an overt act in furtherance of the conspiracy.”

    Think about what a remarkable paragraph that is. Mark Meadows, in his capacity as chief of staff to Donald Trump, was seeking to obtain the phone number of some politicians in Pennsylvania. And because the reason for that request was investigating potential voter fraud, Fani Willis says Mark Meadows needs to go to prison, along with more than a dozen other Trump advisers.

    One of those advisers is John Eastman. What’s his offense? He advanced the legal theory that alternative slates of electors could be seated if election fraud was found. That’s apparently criminal now. It wasn’t illegal in 1960, when JFK’s electors from Hawaii met secretly and submitted their own certificates to Washington, saying he had won the state. As POLITICO reported, “the Hawaii Democrats used virtually the same language” that Trump
    electors in five states “used in their effort to upend the 2020 race.” Ultimately, Kennedy’s electors turned out to be the legitimate ones, after a recount determined Kennedy had won the state.

    Anyone looking at that episode in 1960 would say it’s a good thing that alternative electors can be sent to Washington, in the case of a recount that changes the result of the election. But now that’s criminal. It’s a “RICO violation,” supposedly. John Eastman and several other lawyers are now facing
    several years in prison because they did exactly what JFK’s electors did — and were vindicated for doing — in 1960. David Shafer, who was one of Trump’s
    alternate electors from Georgia, has also been indicted.

    Ray Smith is facing jail time, too. His offense? Per Axios, Smith, “gathered witnesses to testify in hearings before Georgia lawmakers in Dec. 2020 about alleged problems with the state’s election.” That’s not allowed anymore.

    Neither is tweeting about these hearings, apparently.The indictment states: “On or about the 3rd day of December 2020, Donald John Trump caused to be tweeted from the Twitter account @RealDonaldTrump, ‘Georgia hearings now on @OANN. Amazing!’ This was an overt act in furtherance of the conspiracy.” For
    the crime of tweeting about a hearing about election fraud, and related offenses, Fani Willis wants to send Trump and 18 of his associates to prison.

    And she wants to do it very quickly. Willis just filed a request with the court for this trial to take place in just two months — beginning on October 23. So, for this unprecedented criminal trial of 19 defendants, based on a completely novel and insane legal theory, she wants the defense to have a total of two months to prepare. Is that constitutional? Honestly, no one in the DA’s office seems to care.

    ItÂ’s at this point that itÂ’s fair to look into the Fulton County DA, Fani Willis. ItÂ’s long been known sheÂ’s a Democrat and an opponent of Donald Trump. In itself, thatÂ’s not necessarily disqualifying. Everyone, even DAÂ’s,
    has a right to his or her own political opinions.

    But Fani Willis has gone far beyond that. Just a year ago, she hosted a fundraiser for a Democratic candidate running against one of the targets of her election investigation, a state senator named Burt Jones. Jones was one of TrumpÂ’s alternate electors. HereÂ’s how the judge responded when he found out about this:

    https://youtu.be/KsqzZyNeq9M

    This is a DA who has to be told by a judge not to host fundraisers for the political opponents of politicians she plans to prosecute. SheÂ’s that dumb and corrupt. By the way, Jones wasnÂ’t indicted along with the other 19 defendants, maybe because Fani Willis knew the judge would throw it out. She blew that prosecution.

    But if you look at Fani WillisÂ’ social media feeds, as Benny Johnson did the other day, then youÂ’ll come to the conclusion that actually, sheÂ’s blown all
    19 of these prosecutions. WillisÂ’ feed is littered with posts casting doubt on the legitimacy of the 2020 election before the vote totals suddenly shifted against Trump.

    For example, “Georgia could determine who is our next president,” she wrote on November 4, 2020. “A TEAM of lawyers needs to watch them count every single VOTE. They can start in Fulton where we are having water leaks. What ballots are they throwing out? Georgia lets give an honest accounting. No stunts!”

    In 2018, Willis said it was suspicious that local election commissioners hadn’t approved a recount of some votes in Fulton County. “You all better start paying attention to what is really going on,” she wrote. She also argued that the Secretary of State “controls elections,” adding, “I wonder if
    we yet realize that is an important role?” She also posted a lot of BLM propaganda, worships Kamala Harris, and owns a mug saying she’s a “proud Democrat.”

    So we can conclude that Fani Willis is something of a politically motivated election denier. As always, the Left is guilty of doing exactly what they accuse their opponents of doing. The obvious point is that Donald Trump’s social media posts, if they are criminal, then so are Fani Willis’. Her prosecution of Donald Trump, based on her posts, is an “overt act” in furtherance of her conspiracy to keep Donald Trump out of the White House.

    Will Republicans indict Fani Willis? If Republicans retake the federal government, will they jail her for election interference? Ask any conservative right now, and theyÂ’ll tell you it will never happen. And theyÂ’re probably right. WeÂ’re seeing a vast difference in tactics right now between the two major political parties. Conservatives would never dream of dragging, say, George Soros into court on some pretext for the sole purpose of harassing him. Liberals, on the other hand, have no problem suing Elon Musk for not hiring enough refugees. They relish every opportunity to use state power to punish their opponents.

    With each passing month, they’re getting more comfortable doing it. First, they target grandmothers walking around the Capitol. Then they jail Douglas Mackey for some memes. Then they go after Donald Trump for his tweets and his “classified documents.” And now, in Georgia, they’re targeting not only Donald Trump, but more than a dozen of his advisers and associates. This will continue until they’re in jail, or all of their opponents are. After this latest indictment, it’s time to stop pretending otherwise.

    --
    Let's go Brandon!


    Nicole Wallace is a slut who spent a lot of time on her knees.
    Whenever some mildly sexual topic arises during her show, she always perks up and encourages the
    discussion.
    Even Mika shuts Joe down when the same happens on their show.

    The left attempted to embarrass Trump with the mugshot ploy but it's backfired on them big time,
    even with Democrats some of whom realize this entire affair is politically motivated.

    --
    pothead
    Tommy Chong For President 2024.
    Crazy Joe Biden Is A Demented Imbecile.
    Impeach Joe Biden 2022.

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  • From Skeeter@21:1/5 to All on Mon Aug 28 15:49:28 2023
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    In article <ucim7r$1pa7m$9@dont-email.me>, pothead@snakebite.com says...

    On 2023-08-28, Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
    In article <ucd9en$lbbr$1@dont-email.me>, nowomr@protonmail.com wrote:

    Say cheese and enjoy these 25 memes of Donald Trump?s presidential mugshot >> https://thetab.com/uk/2023/08/25/donald-trump-mugshot-memes-325786

    OK, some of those are funny.

    ============================================================================

    2006: "Marriage is between a man and a woman and states must respect that," Joe
    Biden said.

    Biden opposed same-sex marriage when he and Obama were first elected in 2008.

    He opposed it when he was running against Obama for the Democratic nomination.

    He opposed it in the earlier Meet the Press interview.

    And he opposed it in the United States Senate.

    Biden voted for the Defense of Marriage Act as a senator from Delaware in 1996.
    It prevented federal recognition of same-sex marriages and allowed states to do
    the same for same-sex marriages performed in other states.

    Biden's views on same-sex marriage have never been cutting edge. When majorities opposed it, so did he. Once support for same-sex marriage became the
    mainstream Democratic position, Biden adopted it.

    That is why Biden "got into trouble" with Obama for his gay marriage endorsement. Obama and Biden were under activist pressure for being late to supporting same-sex marriage. By the time Biden announced his new stand, most
    rank-and-file Democrats were already on board. Preempting Obama made him look
    bad with liberals.

    Obama and Biden had hesitated because of residual opposition from Hispanic and
    especially black voters. Black Californians voted in 2008 for Obama and Biden,
    and to define marriage as a man and a woman by passing the ballot initiative
    Proposition 8.

    The sincerity of their opposition to same-sex marriage by that time could be
    called into question - in his 2006 Meet the Press interview, Biden was invoking
    the Defense of Marriage Act in part to explain his opposition to a Republican-
    backed federal marriage amendment - but it remained reflected in federal law
    until the Supreme Court handed down Obergefell v. Hodges. Public support for
    same-sex marriage hit 60% in Gallup the month before the decision.

    The other issue is the strident tone Biden and his team have taken toward people who continue to espouse the same position on marriage he held for most
    of his adult life. Biden said he was striking a "blow against hate." Jean- Pierre spoke of "extremist conservatives who appear bent on taking away fundamental rights, including marriage equality."

    Liberals may be shell-shocked by the reversal of Roe v. Wade earlier this year,
    and frequently invoked a stray sentence on substantive due process in Justice
    Clarence Thomas's concurring opinion which wasn't joined by any other justice
    and isn't supported by Justice Samuel Alito's majority opinion. But there is no
    comparison between the nearly 50-year legal and political campaign to overturn
    Roe, which came within one vote of being reversed 30 years ago, and the remaining anti-Obergefell activities.

    That's why the Respect for Marriage Act, essentially codifying Obergefell, sailed through Congress and a bill ostensibly codifying Roe couldn't get majority support in a Democratic-controlled Senate.

    How Biden speaks of faith-based and traditional views of marriage matters because of ongoing religious liberty concerns. Opponents believed the Respect
    for Marriage Act's religious liberty protections were weak. Others maintain they went too far.

    "There's a section here that speaks to the ability of nonprofit religious organizations, faith-based social agencies, educational institutions, employees
    of those organizations to deny services, accommodations, facilities, goods, advantages, privileges to gay couples," a reporter said to Jean-Pierre at Tuesday's White House briefing. "So how is that not codifying discrimination?"

    Biden, the second Catholic president, may face political pressure from those
    who believe religious liberty exemptions are codified discrimination.

    "My wife said I was the most socially conservative man she had ever known," Biden told an interviewer when he was a freshman senator.


    Last night, for the first time in American history, we saw a mugshot of a former president. Donald Trump was officially arrested at Fulton County jail
    in Georgia. Unlike with the other 900 indictments, this time they decided to
    take and publish his mugshot. There was, of course, no legitimate reason to take a mugshot of a former president. The whole purpose of a mugshot is to provide law enforcement with photographic documentation of the suspect. But Donald Trump is the most recognizable and famous person in the world ? possibly in the history of the world. When he shows up for trial they aren?t
    going to have to refer back to his mugshot to make sure it?s really him. There isn?t going to be anyone saying, ?Wait, is that Donald Trump? It?s hard
    to tell. Pull up his mug shot.?

    So why did they take this step? What was the point? The point of course was pure humiliation and vengeance. It was also to give the DA, Fani Willis, a political trophy to put on her wall. It?s something that she wants to use when she inevitably runs for the Senate, or governor, in a few years. Of course, it all backfired, as it was always destined to. The mugshot instantly
    became an iconic image, and had exactly the effect that any half-conscious political observer knew it would have ? rallying the base around Trump. Trump
    is now fundraising off of the image ? and smartly so ? and will likely raise
    many millions just from the mugshot alone. In fact, we can say that if Donald
    Trump does manage to get elected to the presidency again, Fani Willis will be
    largely responsible for it. She is the most effective campaign manager Trump
    has ever had, even if unintentionally.

    But even if this all obviously works to Trump?s advantage, that doesn?t make
    it any less outrageous. Nor should we be distracted from the lessons that this moment is trying to teach us. The most obvious one is that the Left is beyond caring about even the pretense of legitimacy ? something they used to
    pretend to care deeply about. In fact, through this whole ordeal, they?re not
    even acting like they?ve stopped some grave threat to democracy ? because they know they?ve done the exact opposite of that. They are wielding raw political power for the sole, lawless purpose of incarcerating someone who stands a very real chance of winning the presidential election in a little over a year.

    In fact, many on the Left don?t want Trump incarcerated ? they want him killed. An MSNBC anchor just openly fantasized about Donald Trump getting shanked and murdered in prison. Watch:

    Nicolle Wallace literally has to stifle a laugh as she remarks that
    Trump is heading to a jail where three people have died over the last
    month.

    Everyone at MSNBC is a ghoul. pic.twitter.com/auHpRfJ4by

    ? Bill D'Agostino (@Banned_Bill) August 24, 2023

    We?ve played a lot of demented clips on this show over the years. That one is
    up there. Not long ago, Nicole Wallace was running comms for the White House
    during the Iraq war. Back then, she had to pretend to care about the deaths of innocent people at the hands of establishment Washington.

    These people will do everything they can to silence Donald Trump. MSNBC and CNN, after obsessively covering Trump?s trip to Georgia all day, made a point
    of cutting away from his remarks yesterday. Watch:

    CNN didn?t carry Trump?s remarks live either
    pic.twitter.com/Up9wr5eAHe
    ? Acyn (@Acyn) August 25, 2023

    Maddow: If he does that, we're not gonna take those remarks live? as
    we said in the past there is a cost to us as a news organization of
    knowingly broadcasting untrue things.
    pic.twitter.com/OCakKmeg1d
    ? Acyn (@Acyn) August 25, 2023

    If the statement ?we?ll get sued if we air the remarks of the former president after his indictment? is, in fact, remotely accurate, then any self-respecting journalist would air the remarks anyway. They?d fight any consequences for it in court. If the First Amendment protects anything, it?s
    airing the words of a former president at a time like this. But MSNBC?s statement isn?t true, of course. It?s a dumb jab at Fox News over the Dominion lawsuit, and it protects their viewers from hearing about the substance in these indictments, or lack thereof. That?s why they do it.

    Here?s what they?re not telling viewers at MSNBC. The Fulton County DA, Fani
    Willis, has indicted Donald Trump, along with 18 co-defendants, for the following crimes: Offering legal advice to the president, tweeting things that Fani Willis doesn?t like, and, in one particularly egregious case, getting someone?s phone number.

    The indictment states: ?On or about the 21st Day of November 2020, Mark Randall Meadows sent a text message to United States Representative Scott Perry from Pennsylvania and stated, ?Can you send me the number for the speaker and the leader of PA Legislature. POTUS wants to chat with them.? This was an overt act in furtherance of the conspiracy.?

    Think about what a remarkable paragraph that is. Mark Meadows, in his capacity as chief of staff to Donald Trump, was seeking to obtain the phone number of some politicians in Pennsylvania. And because the reason for that request was investigating potential voter fraud, Fani Willis says Mark Meadows needs to go to prison, along with more than a dozen other Trump advisers.

    One of those advisers is John Eastman. What?s his offense? He advanced the legal theory that alternative slates of electors could be seated if election
    fraud was found. That?s apparently criminal now. It wasn?t illegal in 1960, when JFK?s electors from Hawaii met secretly and submitted their own certificates to Washington, saying he had won the state. As POLITICO reported, ?the Hawaii Democrats used virtually the same language? that Trump
    electors in five states ?used in their effort to upend the 2020 race.? Ultimately, Kennedy?s electors turned out to be the legitimate ones, after a
    recount determined Kennedy had won the state.

    Anyone looking at that episode in 1960 would say it?s a good thing that alternative electors can be sent to Washington, in the case of a recount that
    changes the result of the election. But now that?s criminal. It?s a ?RICO violation,? supposedly. John Eastman and several other lawyers are now facing
    several years in prison because they did exactly what JFK?s electors did ? and were vindicated for doing ? in 1960. David Shafer, who was one of Trump?s
    alternate electors from Georgia, has also been indicted.

    Ray Smith is facing jail time, too. His offense? Per Axios, Smith, ?gathered
    witnesses to testify in hearings before Georgia lawmakers in Dec. 2020 about
    alleged problems with the state?s election.? That?s not allowed anymore.

    Neither is tweeting about these hearings, apparently.The indictment states: ?On or about the 3rd day of December 2020, Donald John Trump caused to be tweeted from the Twitter account @RealDonaldTrump, ?Georgia hearings now on @OANN. Amazing!? This was an overt act in furtherance of the conspiracy.? For
    the crime of tweeting about a hearing about election fraud, and related offenses, Fani Willis wants to send Trump and 18 of his associates to prison.

    And she wants to do it very quickly. Willis just filed a request with the court for this trial to take place in just two months ? beginning on October
    23. So, for this unprecedented criminal trial of 19 defendants, based on a completely novel and insane legal theory, she wants the defense to have a total of two months to prepare. Is that constitutional? Honestly, no one in the DA?s office seems to care.

    It?s at this point that it?s fair to look into the Fulton County DA, Fani Willis. It?s long been known she?s a Democrat and an opponent of Donald Trump. In itself, that?s not necessarily disqualifying. Everyone, even DA?s,
    has a right to his or her own political opinions.

    But Fani Willis has gone far beyond that. Just a year ago, she hosted a fundraiser for a Democratic candidate running against one of the targets of her election investigation, a state senator named Burt Jones. Jones was one of Trump?s alternate electors. Here?s how the judge responded when he found out about this:

    https://youtu.be/KsqzZyNeq9M

    This is a DA who has to be told by a judge not to host fundraisers for the political opponents of politicians she plans to prosecute. She?s that dumb and corrupt. By the way, Jones wasn?t indicted along with the other 19 defendants, maybe because Fani Willis knew the judge would throw it out. She
    blew that prosecution.

    But if you look at Fani Willis? social media feeds, as Benny Johnson did the
    other day, then you?ll come to the conclusion that actually, she?s blown all
    19 of these prosecutions. Willis? feed is littered with posts casting doubt on the legitimacy of the 2020 election before the vote totals suddenly shifted against Trump.

    For example, ?Georgia could determine who is our next president,? she wrote on November 4, 2020. ?A TEAM of lawyers needs to watch them count every single VOTE. They can start in Fulton where we are having water leaks. What ballots are they throwing out? Georgia lets give an honest accounting. No stunts!?

    In 2018, Willis said it was suspicious that local election commissioners hadn?t approved a recount of some votes in Fulton County. ?You all better start paying attention to what is really going on,? she wrote. She also argued that the Secretary of State ?controls elections,? adding, ?I wonder if
    we yet realize that is an important role?? She also posted a lot of BLM propaganda, worships Kamala Harris, and owns a mug saying she?s a ?proud Democrat.?

    So we can conclude that Fani Willis is something of a politically motivated election denier. As always, the Left is guilty of doing exactly what they accuse their opponents of doing. The obvious point is that Donald Trump?s social media posts, if they are criminal, then so are Fani Willis?. Her prosecution of Donald Trump, based on her posts, is an ?overt act? in furtherance of her conspiracy to keep Donald Trump out of the White House.

    Will Republicans indict Fani Willis? If Republicans retake the federal government, will they jail her for election interference? Ask any conservative right now, and they?ll tell you it will never happen. And they?re probably right. We?re seeing a vast difference in tactics right now between the two major political parties. Conservatives would never dream of dragging, say, George Soros into court on some pretext for the sole purpose of harassing him. Liberals, on the other hand, have no problem suing Elon Musk for not hiring enough refugees. They relish every opportunity to use state power to punish their opponents.

    With each passing month, they?re getting more comfortable doing it. First, they target grandmothers walking around the Capitol. Then they jail Douglas Mackey for some memes. Then they go after Donald Trump for his tweets and his
    ?classified documents.? And now, in Georgia, they?re targeting not only Donald Trump, but more than a dozen of his advisers and associates. This will
    continue until they?re in jail, or all of their opponents are. After this latest indictment, it?s time to stop pretending otherwise.

    --
    Let's go Brandon!


    Nicole Wallace is a slut who spent a lot of time on her knees.
    Whenever some mildly sexual topic arises during her show, she always perks up and encourages the
    discussion.
    Even Mika shuts Joe down when the same happens on their show.

    The left attempted to embarrass Trump with the mugshot ploy but it's backfired on them big time,
    even with Democrats some of whom realize this entire affair is politically motivated.

    I got a mugshot tee shirt.

    --
    " They're not after me, they are after you! I'm just in the way"

    " Go Peacefully"

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  • From Michael A Terrell@21:1/5 to All on Mon Aug 28 15:01:20 2023
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    On 8/28/2023 2:49 PM, [Default] Skeeter-Shit Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell, convicted child molester and another fucking do-nothing, lied:

    In article <ucim7r$1pa7m$9@dont-email.me>, pothead@snakebite.com says...

    On 2023-08-28, Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
    In article <ucd9en$lbbr$1@dont-email.me>, nowomr@protonmail.com wrote:

    Say cheese and enjoy these 25 memes of Donald Trump?s presidential mugshot >>>> https://thetab.com/uk/2023/08/25/donald-trump-mugshot-memes-325786

    OK, some of those are funny.


    ============================================================================

    2006: "Marriage is between a man and a woman and states must respect that," Joe
    Biden said.

    Biden opposed same-sex marriage when he and Obama were first elected in 2008.

    He opposed it when he was running against Obama for the Democratic nomination.

    He opposed it in the earlier Meet the Press interview.

    And he opposed it in the United States Senate.

    Biden voted for the Defense of Marriage Act as a senator from Delaware in 1996.
    It prevented federal recognition of same-sex marriages and allowed states to do
    the same for same-sex marriages performed in other states.

    Biden's views on same-sex marriage have never been cutting edge. When
    majorities opposed it, so did he. Once support for same-sex marriage became the
    mainstream Democratic position, Biden adopted it.

    That is why Biden "got into trouble" with Obama for his gay marriage
    endorsement. Obama and Biden were under activist pressure for being late to >>> supporting same-sex marriage. By the time Biden announced his new stand, most
    rank-and-file Democrats were already on board. Preempting Obama made him look
    bad with liberals.

    Obama and Biden had hesitated because of residual opposition from Hispanic and
    especially black voters. Black Californians voted in 2008 for Obama and Biden,
    and to define marriage as a man and a woman by passing the ballot initiative
    Proposition 8.

    The sincerity of their opposition to same-sex marriage by that time could be
    called into question - in his 2006 Meet the Press interview, Biden was invoking
    the Defense of Marriage Act in part to explain his opposition to a Republican-
    backed federal marriage amendment - but it remained reflected in federal law
    until the Supreme Court handed down Obergefell v. Hodges. Public support for
    same-sex marriage hit 60% in Gallup the month before the decision.

    The other issue is the strident tone Biden and his team have taken toward >>> people who continue to espouse the same position on marriage he held for most
    of his adult life. Biden said he was striking a "blow against hate." Jean- >>> Pierre spoke of "extremist conservatives who appear bent on taking away
    fundamental rights, including marriage equality."

    Liberals may be shell-shocked by the reversal of Roe v. Wade earlier this year,
    and frequently invoked a stray sentence on substantive due process in Justice
    Clarence Thomas's concurring opinion which wasn't joined by any other justice
    and isn't supported by Justice Samuel Alito's majority opinion. But there is no
    comparison between the nearly 50-year legal and political campaign to overturn
    Roe, which came within one vote of being reversed 30 years ago, and the
    remaining anti-Obergefell activities.

    That's why the Respect for Marriage Act, essentially codifying Obergefell, >>> sailed through Congress and a bill ostensibly codifying Roe couldn't get >>> majority support in a Democratic-controlled Senate.

    How Biden speaks of faith-based and traditional views of marriage matters >>> because of ongoing religious liberty concerns. Opponents believed the Respect
    for Marriage Act's religious liberty protections were weak. Others maintain >>> they went too far.

    "There's a section here that speaks to the ability of nonprofit religious >>> organizations, faith-based social agencies, educational institutions, employees
    of those organizations to deny services, accommodations, facilities, goods, >>> advantages, privileges to gay couples," a reporter said to Jean-Pierre at >>> Tuesday's White House briefing. "So how is that not codifying discrimination?"

    Biden, the second Catholic president, may face political pressure from those
    who believe religious liberty exemptions are codified discrimination.

    "My wife said I was the most socially conservative man she had ever known," >>> Biden told an interviewer when he was a freshman senator.


    Last night, for the first time in American history, we saw a mugshot of a >>> former president. Donald Trump was officially arrested at Fulton County jail
    in Georgia. Unlike with the other 900 indictments, this time they decided to
    take and publish his mugshot. There was, of course, no legitimate reason to >>> take a mugshot of a former president. The whole purpose of a mugshot is to >>> provide law enforcement with photographic documentation of the suspect. But >>> Donald Trump is the most recognizable and famous person in the world ?
    possibly in the history of the world. When he shows up for trial they aren?t
    going to have to refer back to his mugshot to make sure it?s really him. >>> There isn?t going to be anyone saying, ?Wait, is that Donald Trump? It?s hard
    to tell. Pull up his mug shot.?

    So why did they take this step? What was the point? The point of course was >>> pure humiliation and vengeance. It was also to give the DA, Fani Willis, a >>> political trophy to put on her wall. It?s something that she wants to use >>> when she inevitably runs for the Senate, or governor, in a few years. Of >>> course, it all backfired, as it was always destined to. The mugshot instantly
    became an iconic image, and had exactly the effect that any half-conscious >>> political observer knew it would have ? rallying the base around Trump. Trump
    is now fundraising off of the image ? and smartly so ? and will likely raise
    many millions just from the mugshot alone. In fact, we can say that if Donald
    Trump does manage to get elected to the presidency again, Fani Willis will be
    largely responsible for it. She is the most effective campaign manager Trump
    has ever had, even if unintentionally.

    But even if this all obviously works to Trump?s advantage, that doesn?t make
    it any less outrageous. Nor should we be distracted from the lessons that >>> this moment is trying to teach us. The most obvious one is that the Left is >>> beyond caring about even the pretense of legitimacy ? something they used to
    pretend to care deeply about. In fact, through this whole ordeal, they?re not
    even acting like they?ve stopped some grave threat to democracy ? because >>> they know they?ve done the exact opposite of that. They are wielding raw >>> political power for the sole, lawless purpose of incarcerating someone who >>> stands a very real chance of winning the presidential election in a little >>> over a year.

    In fact, many on the Left don?t want Trump incarcerated ? they want him
    killed. An MSNBC anchor just openly fantasized about Donald Trump getting >>> shanked and murdered in prison. Watch:

    Nicolle Wallace literally has to stifle a laugh as she remarks that
    Trump is heading to a jail where three people have died over the last >>> month.

    Everyone at MSNBC is a ghoul. pic.twitter.com/auHpRfJ4by

    ? Bill D'Agostino (@Banned_Bill) August 24, 2023

    We?ve played a lot of demented clips on this show over the years. That one is
    up there. Not long ago, Nicole Wallace was running comms for the White House
    during the Iraq war. Back then, she had to pretend to care about the deaths >>> of innocent people at the hands of establishment Washington.

    These people will do everything they can to silence Donald Trump. MSNBC and >>> CNN, after obsessively covering Trump?s trip to Georgia all day, made a point
    of cutting away from his remarks yesterday. Watch:

    CNN didn?t carry Trump?s remarks live either
    pic.twitter.com/Up9wr5eAHe
    ? Acyn (@Acyn) August 25, 2023

    Maddow: If he does that, we're not gonna take those remarks live? as >>> we said in the past there is a cost to us as a news organization of
    knowingly broadcasting untrue things.
    pic.twitter.com/OCakKmeg1d
    ? Acyn (@Acyn) August 25, 2023

    If the statement ?we?ll get sued if we air the remarks of the former
    president after his indictment? is, in fact, remotely accurate, then any >>> self-respecting journalist would air the remarks anyway. They?d fight any >>> consequences for it in court. If the First Amendment protects anything, it?s
    airing the words of a former president at a time like this. But MSNBC?s
    statement isn?t true, of course. It?s a dumb jab at Fox News over the
    Dominion lawsuit, and it protects their viewers from hearing about the
    substance in these indictments, or lack thereof. That?s why they do it.

    Here?s what they?re not telling viewers at MSNBC. The Fulton County DA, Fani
    Willis, has indicted Donald Trump, along with 18 co-defendants, for the
    following crimes: Offering legal advice to the president, tweeting things >>> that Fani Willis doesn?t like, and, in one particularly egregious case,
    getting someone?s phone number.

    The indictment states: ?On or about the 21st Day of November 2020, Mark
    Randall Meadows sent a text message to United States Representative Scott >>> Perry from Pennsylvania and stated, ?Can you send me the number for the
    speaker and the leader of PA Legislature. POTUS wants to chat with them.? >>> This was an overt act in furtherance of the conspiracy.?

    Think about what a remarkable paragraph that is. Mark Meadows, in his
    capacity as chief of staff to Donald Trump, was seeking to obtain the phone >>> number of some politicians in Pennsylvania. And because the reason for that >>> request was investigating potential voter fraud, Fani Willis says Mark
    Meadows needs to go to prison, along with more than a dozen other Trump
    advisers.

    One of those advisers is John Eastman. What?s his offense? He advanced the >>> legal theory that alternative slates of electors could be seated if election
    fraud was found. That?s apparently criminal now. It wasn?t illegal in 1960, >>> when JFK?s electors from Hawaii met secretly and submitted their own
    certificates to Washington, saying he had won the state. As POLITICO
    reported, ?the Hawaii Democrats used virtually the same language? that Trump
    electors in five states ?used in their effort to upend the 2020 race.?
    Ultimately, Kennedy?s electors turned out to be the legitimate ones, after a
    recount determined Kennedy had won the state.

    Anyone looking at that episode in 1960 would say it?s a good thing that
    alternative electors can be sent to Washington, in the case of a recount that
    changes the result of the election. But now that?s criminal. It?s a ?RICO >>> violation,? supposedly. John Eastman and several other lawyers are now facing
    several years in prison because they did exactly what JFK?s electors did ? >>> and were vindicated for doing ? in 1960. David Shafer, who was one of Trump?s
    alternate electors from Georgia, has also been indicted.

    Ray Smith is facing jail time, too. His offense? Per Axios, Smith, ?gathered
    witnesses to testify in hearings before Georgia lawmakers in Dec. 2020 about
    alleged problems with the state?s election.? That?s not allowed anymore. >>>
    Neither is tweeting about these hearings, apparently.The indictment states: >>> ?On or about the 3rd day of December 2020, Donald John Trump caused to be >>> tweeted from the Twitter account @RealDonaldTrump, ?Georgia hearings now on >>> @OANN. Amazing!? This was an overt act in furtherance of the conspiracy.? For
    the crime of tweeting about a hearing about election fraud, and related
    offenses, Fani Willis wants to send Trump and 18 of his associates to prison.

    And she wants to do it very quickly. Willis just filed a request with the >>> court for this trial to take place in just two months ? beginning on October
    23. So, for this unprecedented criminal trial of 19 defendants, based on a >>> completely novel and insane legal theory, she wants the defense to have a >>> total of two months to prepare. Is that constitutional? Honestly, no one in >>> the DA?s office seems to care.

    It?s at this point that it?s fair to look into the Fulton County DA, Fani >>> Willis. It?s long been known she?s a Democrat and an opponent of Donald
    Trump. In itself, that?s not necessarily disqualifying. Everyone, even DA?s,
    has a right to his or her own political opinions.

    But Fani Willis has gone far beyond that. Just a year ago, she hosted a
    fundraiser for a Democratic candidate running against one of the targets of >>> her election investigation, a state senator named Burt Jones. Jones was one >>> of Trump?s alternate electors. Here?s how the judge responded when he found >>> out about this:

    https://youtu.be/KsqzZyNeq9M

    This is a DA who has to be told by a judge not to host fundraisers for the >>> political opponents of politicians she plans to prosecute. She?s that dumb >>> and corrupt. By the way, Jones wasn?t indicted along with the other 19
    defendants, maybe because Fani Willis knew the judge would throw it out. She
    blew that prosecution.

    But if you look at Fani Willis? social media feeds, as Benny Johnson did the
    other day, then you?ll come to the conclusion that actually, she?s blown all
    19 of these prosecutions. Willis? feed is littered with posts casting doubt >>> on the legitimacy of the 2020 election before the vote totals suddenly
    shifted against Trump.

    For example, ?Georgia could determine who is our next president,? she wrote >>> on November 4, 2020. ?A TEAM of lawyers needs to watch them count every
    single VOTE. They can start in Fulton where we are having water leaks. What >>> ballots are they throwing out? Georgia lets give an honest accounting. No >>> stunts!?

    In 2018, Willis said it was suspicious that local election commissioners >>> hadn?t approved a recount of some votes in Fulton County. ?You all better >>> start paying attention to what is really going on,? she wrote. She also
    argued that the Secretary of State ?controls elections,? adding, ?I wonder if
    we yet realize that is an important role?? She also posted a lot of BLM
    propaganda, worships Kamala Harris, and owns a mug saying she?s a ?proud >>> Democrat.?

    So we can conclude that Fani Willis is something of a politically motivated >>> election denier. As always, the Left is guilty of doing exactly what they >>> accuse their opponents of doing. The obvious point is that Donald Trump?s >>> social media posts, if they are criminal, then so are Fani Willis?. Her
    prosecution of Donald Trump, based on her posts, is an ?overt act? in
    furtherance of her conspiracy to keep Donald Trump out of the White House. >>>
    Will Republicans indict Fani Willis? If Republicans retake the federal
    government, will they jail her for election interference? Ask any
    conservative right now, and they?ll tell you it will never happen. And
    they?re probably right. We?re seeing a vast difference in tactics right now >>> between the two major political parties. Conservatives would never dream of >>> dragging, say, George Soros into court on some pretext for the sole purpose >>> of harassing him. Liberals, on the other hand, have no problem suing Elon >>> Musk for not hiring enough refugees. They relish every opportunity to use >>> state power to punish their opponents.

    With each passing month, they?re getting more comfortable doing it. First, >>> they target grandmothers walking around the Capitol. Then they jail Douglas >>> Mackey for some memes. Then they go after Donald Trump for his tweets and his
    ?classified documents.? And now, in Georgia, they?re targeting not only
    Donald Trump, but more than a dozen of his advisers and associates. This will
    continue until they?re in jail, or all of their opponents are. After this >>> latest indictment, it?s time to stop pretending otherwise.

    --
    Let's go Brandon!


    Nicole Wallace is a slut who spent a lot of time on her knees.
    Whenever some mildly sexual topic arises during her show, she always perks up and encourages the
    discussion.
    Even Mika shuts Joe down when the same happens on their show.

    The left attempted to embarrass Trump with the mugshot ploy but it's backfired on them big time,
    even with Democrats some of whom realize this entire affair is politically motivated.

    I got a mugshot tee shirt.

    No, you didn't.

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  • From Governor Swill@21:1/5 to pothead on Mon Aug 28 20:51:34 2023
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    On Mon, 28 Aug 2023 17:41:15 -0000 (UTC), pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:

    Nicole Wallace is a slut who spent a lot of time on her knees.
    Whenever some mildly sexual topic arises during her show, she always perks up and encourages the
    discussion.

    That's because sex sells. <https://picclick.com/Popular/beer-bikini-girl-posters>

    Even Mika shuts Joe down when the same happens on their show.

    You watch MSNBC? Lol!

    Swill
    PS: Australian beer ads
    <https://www.dailymotion.com/video/xm3nw3>
    --
    "He's an IT guy and a computer guy but he's not a cyber guy." - Stupid
    things Mike Lindell says.

    GO TRUMP! Go farther! Farther! I can still hear you!

    Heroyam slava! Glory to the Heroes!

    Sláva Ukrajíni! Glory to Ukraine!

    Putin tse prezervatyv! Putin is a condom!

    Go here to donate to Ukrainian relief. <https://www2.deloitte.com/ua/uk/pages/registration-forms/help-cities.html>

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  • From Governor Swill@21:1/5 to Skeeter on Mon Aug 28 20:52:58 2023
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    On Mon, 28 Aug 2023 15:49:28 -0600, Skeeter <Skeeterweed@proton.me> wrote:

    I got a mugshot tee shirt.

    Did you get it from Green Day?

    <https://www.salon.com/2023/08/28/green-day-is-selling-donald-trumps-mugshot-t-shirts-labeled-nimrod/>

    Swill
    --
    "He's an IT guy and a computer guy but he's not a cyber guy." - Stupid
    things Mike Lindell says.

    GO TRUMP! Go farther! Farther! I can still hear you!

    Heroyam slava! Glory to the Heroes!

    Sláva Ukrajíni! Glory to Ukraine!

    Putin tse prezervatyv! Putin is a condom!

    Go here to donate to Ukrainian relief. <https://www2.deloitte.com/ua/uk/pages/registration-forms/help-cities.html>

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  • From Skeeter@21:1/5 to All on Mon Aug 28 19:05:10 2023
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    In article <lagqeidqk4stbnkt6bdvqev4tvq4dfbcl0@4ax.com>, governor.swill@gmail.com says...

    On Mon, 28 Aug 2023 15:49:28 -0600, Skeeter <Skeeterweed@proton.me> wrote:

    I got a mugshot tee shirt.

    Did you get it from Green Day?

    <https://www.salon.com/2023/08/28/green-day-is-selling-donald-trumps-mugshot-t-shirts-labeled-nimrod/>

    Swill

    No.

    --
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    " Go Peacefully"

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