• Re: "Wagner Group" Is a Personality Cult - Take Out The Leaders and Tha

    From Leper@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jun 1 23:43:35 2023
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    On 5/31/2023 9:31 PM, 24D.224 wrote:
    Ya know ... there are maybe two or three guys at the head
    of the notorious "Wagner Group" that are Putin's main
    enforcers/commandos. The group is a personality cult.
    Take THEM out and the whole thing will implode.

    The US and allies can surely LOCATE these people - but
    Ukrainians have to be the ones to do the deed.

    Are you crazy? Keep these guys working. The Ukrainian Military has never
    had such a high kill ratio.

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  • From =?UTF-8?B?8J+YjiBNaWdodHkgV2FubmFiZ@21:1/5 to Leper on Fri Jun 2 06:26:54 2023
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    On 6/2/2023 12:43 AM, Leper wrote:
    On 5/31/2023 9:31 PM, 24D.224 wrote:
    Ya know ... there are maybe two or three guys at the head
    of the notorious "Wagner Group" that are Putin's main
    enforcers/commandos. The group is a personality cult.
    Take THEM out and the whole thing will implode.

    The US and allies can surely LOCATE these people - but
    Ukrainians have to be the ones to do the deed.

    Are you crazy? Keep these guys working. The Ukrainian Military has
    never had such a high kill ratio.



    Only if you believe Zelensky neo-Nazi Judenrat regime lies. If the
    Zelensky neo-Nazi Judenrat regime is that good, how did they manage to
    lose their  strategic cities like Mariupo and Bukhmut?

    Mariupol before and after https://www.google.com/search?q=mariupol+before+and+after&source=lnms&tbm=isch

    Bakhmut before and after https://www.google.com/search?q=bakhmut+before+and+after&tbm=isch

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  • From PaxPerPoten@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jun 2 22:48:46 2023
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    On 6/2/2023 5:26 AM, 😎 Mighty Wannabe ✅ wrote:
    On 6/2/2023 12:43 AM, Leper wrote:
    On 5/31/2023 9:31 PM, 24D.224 wrote:
    Ya know ... there are maybe two or three guys at the head
    of the notorious "Wagner Group" that are Putin's main
    enforcers/commandos. The group is a personality cult.
    Take THEM out and the whole thing will implode.

    The US and allies can surely LOCATE these people - but
    Ukrainians have to be the ones to do the deed.

    Are you crazy? Keep these guys working. The Ukrainian Military has
    never had such a high kill ratio.



    Only if you believe Zelensky neo-Nazi Judenrat regime lies. If the
    Zelensky neo-Nazi Judenrat regime is that good, how did they manage to
    lose their  strategic cities like Mariupo and Bukhmut?

    Try this possibility:
    By allowing the orders of the NATO nations, forbidding a direct attack
    on Russian soil and infrastructure, dummy. This plan seems to be to
    eradicate all infrastructure in the Ukraine, making it a demilitarized
    zone much like Between the 2 Korea's. While at the same time bleeding
    Russian military power beyond any real possibility of aggressive action.
    That action would of course make Russia a possible leech on China. It
    has been noted that the USA is NOT going to furnish F35's or Abrams
    Tanks in time for Ukraine's Spring Offensive.(On its own territory).
    I wonder what Sun Tzu would think of this insanity?

    http://classics.mit.edu/Tzu/artwar.html


    Mariupol before and after https://www.google.com/search?q=mariupol+before+and+after&source=lnms&tbm=isch

    Bakhmut before and after https://www.google.com/search?q=bakhmut+before+and+after&tbm=isch




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  • From =?UTF-8?B?8J+YjiBNaWdodHkgV2FubmFiZ@21:1/5 to PaxPerPoten on Sat Jun 3 06:29:14 2023
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    On 6/2/2023 11:48 PM, PaxPerPoten wrote:
    On 6/2/2023 5:26 AM, 😎 Mighty Wannabe ✅ wrote:
    On 6/2/2023 12:43 AM, Leper wrote:
    On 5/31/2023 9:31 PM, 24D.224 wrote:
    Ya know ... there are maybe two or three guys at the head
    of the notorious "Wagner Group" that are Putin's main
    enforcers/commandos. The group is a personality cult.
    Take THEM out and the whole thing will implode.

    The US and allies can surely LOCATE these people - but
    Ukrainians have to be the ones to do the deed.

    Are you crazy? Keep these guys working. The Ukrainian Military has
    never had such a high kill ratio.



    Only if you believe Zelensky neo-Nazi Judenrat regime lies. If the
    Zelensky neo-Nazi Judenrat regime is that good, how did they manage
    to lose their  strategic cities like Mariupo and Bukhmut?

    Try this possibility:
    By allowing the orders of the NATO nations, forbidding a direct attack
    on Russian soil and infrastructure, dummy. This plan seems to be to
    eradicate all infrastructure in the Ukraine, making it a demilitarized
    zone much like Between the 2 Korea's. While at the same time bleeding
    Russian military power beyond any real possibility of aggressive action.
    That action would of course make Russia a possible leech on China. It
    has been noted that the USA is NOT going to furnish F35's or Abrams
    Tanks in time for Ukraine's Spring Offensive.(On its own territory).
    I wonder what Sun Tzu would think of this insanity?

    http://classics.mit.edu/Tzu/artwar.html




    You don't need Sun Tzu to know that you don't start a war that you
    cannot win, especially against a much bigger opponent who can easily
    level Kiev in a full-scale, all-out war.

    The ethnic Russians in Ukraine were not happy about the Ukraine Maidan
    coup that ousted their democratically elected Ukrainian president and
    wanted to separate from Ukraine in 2014. Ukraine signed the Minsk
    Protocol in 2014 (Germany and France were mediators) to allow the
    separatist regions autonomy under the banner of greater Ukraine, but the Ukrainian US-puppet-regime has been shelling the separatist regions ever
    since.

    Minsk agreements - Wikipedia
    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minsk_agreements>

    The is the reason. Zelensky the opportunistic Jewish TV-comedian-turned-president is paid handsomely to turn Ukraine into
    ruins and fight Russia to the last Ukrainian for 30 pieces of silver and suitcases full of high denomination US dollar bills.

    Lindsey Graham & John McCain in Ukraine - Preparing for a proxy war with
    Russia (2016)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeWHviwLMy8

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