On Wed, 19 Apr 2006 20:48:47 +0200, "Ulrich Diez" <eu_an...@web.de.invalid> wrote:
bassam king karzeddin wrote:
to Z*, where (x) and (y) are prime to each other,"If (x) and (y) are two distinct integers belong
one, then there exist three integers (m, k, p),and (n) is odd positive integer > grater than
prime number,where (m) belongs to Z*, (k) belongs to N, (p) is
that:where (m) and (p) are prime to each other, such
x^ n + y^n + m*(p^(2^k)) = 0 "
I'm not all too experienced in maths.detail.
I think not all points of the proof were outlined in
That's because it's not a full proof. Rather it's a
proof based on a
conjecture.
So not everything is clear to me yet.karzeddin"-proof in my words:
Please let me summarize the "bassam king
Let v = -m , you get:
x^ n + y^n - v*(p^(2^k)) = 0
x^ n + y^n = v*(p^(2^k))
m and p are prime to each other.prime-factor of v.
v and p are prime to each other also/p is not a
ofWhen looking at the exponents of the prime-factors
(x^n+y^n), you will for n >3 in any case find for atleast one
prime-factor (which is called p in the "bassam kingkarzeddin"-
equation), that it's exponent is a non-negativeinteger-power of 2
(, which means that the whole expression cannot bean
odd positive integer-power > 1 of anotherinteger-number).
Did I get this right?
Yes, that's the argument. The unproved part is the
equation:
x^ n + y^n + m*(p^(2^k)) = 0
There's no proof that for any distinct coprime
integers x,y, you can
always find m,p,k satisfying the equation together
with the
requirements that p is prime, k is a nonnegative
integer, and m is an
integer relatively prime to p.
If not: Please forgive my ignorance and tell meabout the error in
my understanding.mathematician at all-- but
If so: Please forgive my ignorance --I'm not a
how to prove this?
Good question. As far as I can see, no proof or even
partial proof of
the conjectured equation has been provided by
Karzeddin. His only
claim is that "no counterexample exists", which is
obviously not a
proof.
(Maybe there is an example where all prime-factor-although the
exponents are not non-negative integer-powers of 2
expression does not have the form x^n+y^n=z^n. Ididn't find one
yet and I hope that no one else will,
Right -- maybe there is a counterexample. but so far,
the conjecture
has survived brute force attack.
but perhaps a formal proof might be a remedy for allscepticalness.)
A formal proof would be spectacular, since FLT would
then be just a
simple corollary.
I don't have any feeling for why the conjecture
should be true, hence,
a counterexample wouldn't surprise me. In fact, I'm
surprised that the
conjecture didn't fall immediately to a simple brute
force test with
relatively small values of x,y,n.
quasi
And, there will be no counter example for sure
Regards
Bassam King Karzeddin
6th, April, 2017
On Wed, 19 Apr 2006 20:48:47 +0200, "Ulrich Diez" <eu_an...@web.de.invalid> wrote:
bassam king karzeddin wrote:
to Z*, where (x) and (y) are prime to each other,"If (x) and (y) are two distinct integers belong
one, then there exist three integers (m, k, p),and (n) is odd positive integer > grater than
prime number,where (m) belongs to Z*, (k) belongs to N, (p) is
that:where (m) and (p) are prime to each other, such
x^ n + y^n + m*(p^(2^k)) = 0 "
I'm not all too experienced in maths.detail.
I think not all points of the proof were outlined in
That's because it's not a full proof. Rather it's a
proof based on a
conjecture.
So not everything is clear to me yet.karzeddin"-proof in my words:
Please let me summarize the "bassam king
Let v = -m , you get:
x^ n + y^n - v*(p^(2^k)) = 0
x^ n + y^n = v*(p^(2^k))
m and p are prime to each other.prime-factor of v.
v and p are prime to each other also/p is not a
ofWhen looking at the exponents of the prime-factors
(x^n+y^n), you will for n >3 in any case find for atleast one
prime-factor (which is called p in the "bassam kingkarzeddin"-
equation), that it's exponent is a non-negativeinteger-power of 2
(, which means that the whole expression cannot bean
odd positive integer-power > 1 of anotherinteger-number).
Did I get this right?
Yes, that's the argument. The unproved part is the
equation:
x^ n + y^n + m*(p^(2^k)) = 0
There's no proof that for any distinct coprime
integers x,y, you can
always find m,p,k satisfying the equation together
with the
requirements that p is prime, k is a nonnegative
integer, and m is an
integer relatively prime to p.
If not: Please forgive my ignorance and tell meabout the error in
my understanding.mathematician at all-- but
If so: Please forgive my ignorance --I'm not a
how to prove this?
Good question. As far as I can see, no proof or even
partial proof of
the conjectured equation has been provided by
Karzeddin. His only
claim is that "no counterexample exists", which is
obviously not a
proof.
(Maybe there is an example where all prime-factor-although the
exponents are not non-negative integer-powers of 2
expression does not have the form x^n+y^n=z^n. Ididn't find one
yet and I hope that no one else will,
Right -- maybe there is a counterexample. but so far,
the conjecture
has survived brute force attack.
but perhaps a formal proof might be a remedy for allscepticalness.)
A formal proof would be spectacular, since FLT would
then be just a
simple corollary.
I don't have any feeling for why the conjecture
should be true, hence,
a counterexample wouldn't surprise me. In fact, I'm
surprised that the
conjecture didn't fall immediately to a simple brute
force test with
relatively small values of x,y,n.
quasi
And, there will be no counter example for sure
Regards
Bassam King Karzeddin
6th, April, 2017
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