• What If We Don't Raise Cattle To Eat Them?

    From Ron Artest@21:1/5 to Rod Speed on Tue Mar 9 11:56:21 2021
    XPost: alt.philosophy, alt.politics.economics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    On 6/28/2010 2:38 AM, Rod Speed wrote:
    Dutch wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Fred C. Dobbs wrote

    Who is harmed if we stop raising livestock animals?

    The animals that never got to live.

    No, that's impossible. You can't harm something that doesn't exist.

    Wrong, as always.

    How so?

    They were harmed by never getting to live.


    Bullshit. Only an existing welfare-bearing entity can be harmed. If a potential welfare-bearing entity never comes into existence, "it" cannot be harmed...because "it" never existed, and existence is a prerequisite for being able to experience harm. This is settled.

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  • From Byker@21:1/5 to Rod Speed on Tue Mar 9 14:57:40 2021
    XPost: alt.philosophy, alt.politics.economics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: alt.global-warming

    On 6/28/2010 2:38 AM, Rod Speed wrote:
    Dutch wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Fred C. Dobbs wrote

    Who is harmed if we stop raising livestock animals?

    The animals that never got to live.

    No, that's impossible. You can't harm something that doesn't exist.

    Wrong, as always.

    How so?

    They were harmed by never getting to live.

    Here, Bossy, Bossy: https://blog.ninapaley.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/shochet4.gif

    Sometimes the critters don't want to co-operate: https://i.imgur.com/k5wrtl7.gif?noredirect

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  • From BeamMeUpScotty@21:1/5 to Byker on Wed Mar 10 07:08:12 2021
    XPost: alt.philosophy, alt.politics.economics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: alt.global-warming

    On 3/9/21 3:57 PM, Byker wrote:
    On 6/28/2010 2:38 AM, Rod Speed wrote:
    Dutch wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Fred C. Dobbs wrote

    Who is harmed if we stop raising livestock animals?

    The animals that never got to live.

    No, that's impossible.  You can't harm something that doesn't exist.

    Wrong, as always.

    How so?

    They were harmed by never getting to live.

    Here, Bossy, Bossy: https://blog.ninapaley.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/shochet4.gif

    Sometimes the critters don't want to co-operate: https://i.imgur.com/k5wrtl7.gif?noredirect

    Millions upon millions of Buffalo were eating that same grass and
    creating that same rich black soil that makes the growing of all the
    crops in the Midwest USA possible.

    Without all the Bovine or Buffalo sheep goats Deer processing that
    prairie into soil, we will NOT be able to grow the plants to keep the
    vegans alive and people will starve. So it takes millions of acres to
    feed the beef to regenerate the soil and if we don't eat the beef we
    have to grow more vegetables and grains but the soil won't make enough
    greens and grains to feed millions of Bison or millions of Cattle and
    grow the greens for the Billions of vegans as we see the Deer already
    impact some farmers to the point that they harvest less and that
    somewhere means a human has less to eat. So the Buffalo Bison Cattle
    and Deer would have to be killed and that would mean that the soil would
    NOT be regenerated as it's depleted through erosion and FARMING THE
    PRODUCE OR GRAINS with the processes of bacteria and other demands that
    are made, it would deplete the soil in just a few decades Sort of like
    what's happening now in some areas where they quit raising Beef and the
    land became less and less productive and less and less able to retain
    water thanks to there being less organic matter and less carbon in the
    soil. And wouldn't all that be causing more GLOBAL WARMING by having the
    soil release more carbon than it sequesters? That is, if you buy the
    fallacy that HUMANS are the cause of Global Warming.

    The fact we eat beef has saved the planet from an earlier starvation of Billions. And it keeps the CO2 IN THE SOIL where it helps to grow more
    plants for the Cattle and Deer and Humans to eat. Remember that plants
    are carbon based and Bovine and other animals like sheep and goats and
    chickens that eat and trample that green stuff also process it, and are returning the carbon back to the soil with the bacteria that the soil
    needs to do the processing to use the organic material and the "dreaded poisonous carbon" that scares the children.

    The process is a cycle of millions of years that Vegans want to change
    and starve billions of humans to change.

    Humans grew larger brains... than herbivores.... and we left the other
    species behind in the dust who still eat a vegan diet. What we're
    talking about is de-evolution, the vegans want to be apes in a jungle
    picking nits out each others hair, because they will have no superior
    brain function.






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    Banning guns and de-funding police won't lower crime if you follow the Democrats Rhetoric. *And their very own Democrat actions confirm* that
    even *they believe they're lying* since they're doing the opposite *to*
    *reduce any crimes "you" might commit against the Government* that they
    control and apparently they *believe guns and fences and police* *will* *protect* them from your crime and violence. So why won't those same
    things protect you from crime and violence?

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  • From BeamMeUpScotty@21:1/5 to Ron Artest on Wed Mar 10 06:27:05 2021
    XPost: alt.philosophy, alt.politics.economics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    On 3/9/21 2:56 PM, Ron Artest wrote:
    On 6/28/2010 2:38 AM, Rod Speed wrote:
    Dutch wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Fred C. Dobbs wrote

    Who is harmed if we stop raising livestock animals?

    The animals that never got to live.

    No, that's impossible.  You can't harm something that doesn't exist.

    Wrong, as always.

    How so?

    They were harmed by never getting to live.


    Bullshit.  Only an existing welfare-bearing entity can be harmed.  If a potential welfare-bearing entity never comes into existence, "it" cannot
    be harmed...because "it" never existed, and existence is a prerequisite
    for being able to experience harm.  This is settled.


    Then when a human egg is fertilized and the life begins then that life
    can experience harm from that point on....?

    That which hasn't existed would be that which was never created by an
    egg and a sperm uniting.


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    That's karma

    Banning guns and de-funding police won't lower crime if you follow the Democrats Rhetoric. *And their very own Democrat actions confirm* that
    even *they believe they're lying* since they're doing the opposite *to*
    *reduce any crimes "you" might commit against the Government* that they
    control and apparently they *believe guns and fences and police* *will* *protect* them from your crime and violence. So why won't those same
    things protect you from crime and violence?

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  • From Byker@21:1/5 to All on Wed Mar 10 18:43:12 2021
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    XPost: alt.global-warming

    On 3/10/2021 4:08 AM, #ReamMeUpTheAssSnotty, brain-damaged fucktard who rode his
    scooter into a tree while not wearing a helmet, stupidly bawled and lied:

    On 3/9/21 3:57 PM, Byker wrote:
    On 6/28/2010 2:38 AM, Rod Speed wrote:
    Dutch wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Fred C. Dobbs wrote

    Who is harmed if we stop raising livestock animals?

    The animals that never got to live.

    No, that's impossible.  You can't harm something that doesn't exist. >>>
    Wrong, as always.

    How so?

    They were harmed by never getting to live.

    Here, Bossy, Bossy:
    https://blog.ninapaley.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/shochet4.gif

    Sometimes the critters don't want to co-operate:
    https://i.imgur.com/k5wrtl7.gif?noredirect

    Millions upon millions of Buffalo were eating that same grass and
    creating that same rich black soil that makes the growing of all the
    crops in the Midwest USA possible.

    Bullshit. The bison are on the prairies, west of the Mississippi. The midwest is all east of the river.

    You don't know a fucking thing.

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  • From Byker@21:1/5 to All on Wed Mar 10 22:48:30 2021
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    XPost: alt.global-warming

    You don't know a fucking thing.

    Uh-huh:
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  • From Byker@21:1/5 to BeamMeUpScotty on Thu Mar 11 11:06:48 2021
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    "BeamMeUpScotty" wrote in message news:NE22I.57233$UW.46498@fx08.iad...

    Humans grew larger brains... than herbivores.... and we left the other species behind in the dust who still eat a vegan diet. What we're talking about is de-evolution, the vegans want to be apes in a jungle picking nits out each others hair, because they will have no superior brain function.

    I'll second that...

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  • From Ron Artest@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jan 9 07:17:31 2024
    XPost: alt.philosophy, alt.politics.economics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    On 6/28/2010 2:38 AM, Half Speed, drunken wallaby fucker, lied:
    Dutch wrote
    Half Speed, drunken wallaby fucker, lied:
    Fred C. Dobbs wrote

    Who is harmed if we stop raising livestock animals?

    The animals that never got to live.

    No, that's impossible. You can't harm something that doesn't exist.

    Wrong, as always.

    How so?

    They were harmed by never getting to live.


    Bullshit. Only an existing welfare-bearing entity can be harmed. If a potential welfare-bearing entity never comes into existence, "it" cannot be harmed...because "it" never existed, and existence is a prerequisite for being able to experience harm.

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