• Wonder how they'll "push" an asteroid composed of rubble?

    From RichA@21:1/5 to All on Mon Sep 25 21:02:43 2023
    I guess there could be some energy impacted by an impactor, even if the body isn't really solid?

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  • From Chris L Peterson@21:1/5 to All on Tue Sep 26 08:47:50 2023
    On Mon, 25 Sep 2023 21:02:43 -0700 (PDT), RichA <rander3128@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    I guess there could be some energy impacted by an impactor, even if the body isn't really solid?

    The approach I think is coolest is to just explode a big tank of white
    or black powder onto one side and let radiation pressure move the
    body. Of course, that requires enough advance notice that a small
    nudge is all that is required. You could probably nuke most of the
    asteroids likely to cause us problems and turn them into harmless
    smaller pieces.

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  • From Mikko@21:1/5 to RichA on Tue Sep 26 18:34:25 2023
    On 2023-09-26 04:02:43 +0000, RichA said:

    I guess there could be some energy impacted by an impactor, even if the
    body isn't really solid?

    An impactor works if it doesn't break the asteroid and doesn't throw too
    much of the rubble away. Any asteroid worth of the effort is big enough
    that the impactor does not fly through it.

    Mikko

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  • From Chris L Peterson@21:1/5 to All on Tue Sep 26 10:54:13 2023
    On Tue, 26 Sep 2023 18:34:25 +0300, Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi>
    wrote:

    On 2023-09-26 04:02:43 +0000, RichA said:

    I guess there could be some energy impacted by an impactor, even if the
    body isn't really solid?

    An impactor works if it doesn't break the asteroid and doesn't throw too
    much of the rubble away. Any asteroid worth of the effort is big enough
    that the impactor does not fly through it.

    Breaking it up can be an excellent solution. As the rubble is likely
    no larger than tens of meters, it becomes largely harmless if it
    impacts the Earth.

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  • From W@21:1/5 to RichA on Wed Sep 27 00:19:36 2023
    On Tuesday, September 26, 2023 at 12:02:45 AM UTC-4, RichA wrote:
    I guess there could be some energy impacted by an impactor, even if the body isn't really solid?

    One could hit the asteroid multiple times in such a way as to increase its spin rate and let centrifugal force throw off some of the rubble.

    Or launch some size-able mass from the Moon and send it on a fly-by of the asteroid, altering the asteroid's orbit slightly.

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  • From Mike Collins@21:1/5 to Chris L Peterson on Thu Sep 28 12:56:58 2023
    On Tuesday, 26 September 2023 at 15:47:57 UTC+1, Chris L Peterson wrote:
    On Mon, 25 Sep 2023 21:02:43 -0700 (PDT), RichA <rande...@gmail.com>
    wrote:
    I guess there could be some energy impacted by an impactor, even if the body isn't really solid?
    The approach I think is coolest is to just explode a big tank of white
    or black powder onto one side and let radiation pressure move the
    body. Of course, that requires enough advance notice that a small
    nudge is all that is required. You could probably nuke most of the
    asteroids likely to cause us problems and turn them into harmless
    smaller pieces.
    That assumes that the target asteroid is not spinning

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  • From Chris L Peterson@21:1/5 to acridiniumester@gmail.com on Thu Sep 28 16:17:19 2023
    On Thu, 28 Sep 2023 12:56:58 -0700 (PDT), Mike Collins <acridiniumester@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Tuesday, 26 September 2023 at 15:47:57 UTC+1, Chris L Peterson wrote:
    On Mon, 25 Sep 2023 21:02:43 -0700 (PDT), RichA <rande...@gmail.com>
    wrote:
    I guess there could be some energy impacted by an impactor, even if the body isn't really solid?
    The approach I think is coolest is to just explode a big tank of white
    or black powder onto one side and let radiation pressure move the
    body. Of course, that requires enough advance notice that a small
    nudge is all that is required. You could probably nuke most of the
    asteroids likely to cause us problems and turn them into harmless
    smaller pieces.
    That assumes that the target asteroid is not spinning

    No, it works with a spinning asteroid. Making it lighter makes it more responsive to radiation pressure. Doing it non-uniformly increases the
    YORP effect, which could spin up a rubble pile until is disintegrates.
    Making it darker increases the Yarkovsky effect. All of these offer
    protective strategies, depending on the nature of the body and how
    much time is available to intervene.

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