I saw a picture of a Tokyo subway car. Molded plastic unpadded seats.
No more comfortable padding. Know why? Because the vermin vandalized the padding, cutting it. Just one more way the lower-class make things worse for people.
On Sun, 30 Apr 2023 02:25:52 -0700 (PDT), RichA <rande...@gmail.com>
wrote:
I saw a picture of a Tokyo subway car. Molded plastic unpadded seats.
No more comfortable padding. Know why? Because the vermin vandalized the padding, cutting it. Just one more way the lower-class make things worse for people.
We have a "lower-class" because of people like you.
On Sunday, April 30, 2023 at 2:20:06?PM UTC, Chris L Peterson wrote:
On Sun, 30 Apr 2023 02:25:52 -0700 (PDT), RichA <rande...@gmail.com>
wrote:
I saw a picture of a Tokyo subway car. Molded plastic unpadded seats.
No more comfortable padding. Know why? Because the vermin vandalized the padding, cutting it. Just one more way the lower-class make things worse for people.
We have a "lower-class" because of people like you.
RichA hasn't vandalized any subway seats.
On Sunday, April 30, 2023 at 2:20:06 PM UTC, Chris L Peterson wrote:
On Sun, 30 Apr 2023 02:25:52 -0700 (PDT), RichA <rande...@gmail.com> wrote:
I saw a picture of a Tokyo subway car. Molded plastic unpadded seats.
No more comfortable padding. Know why? Because the vermin vandalized the padding, cutting it. Just one more way the lower-class make things worse for people.
We have a "lower-class" because of people like you.RichA hasn't vandalized any subway seats.
Maybe you haven't either, mostly because you hardly ever ride a subway.
Lower class? That's you, for accusing people of thought crimes. You'll never be guilty because you would actually have to think.
Solid plastic seats are easier to keep sanitary. Cloth and vinyl can look clean but be filthy and are not easy to sanitize. That's probably why Tokyo made the switch.
On Monday, 1 May 2023 at 07:55:53 UTC-4, W wrote:
On Sunday, April 30, 2023 at 2:20:06?PM UTC, Chris L Peterson wrote:
On Sun, 30 Apr 2023 02:25:52 -0700 (PDT), RichA <rande...@gmail.com>RichA hasn't vandalized any subway seats.
wrote:
I saw a picture of a Tokyo subway car. Molded plastic unpadded seats.
No more comfortable padding. Know why? Because the vermin vandalized the padding, cutting it. Just one more way the lower-class make things worse for people.
We have a "lower-class" because of people like you.
Maybe you haven't either, mostly because you hardly ever ride a subway.
Lower class? That's you, for accusing people of thought crimes. You'll never be guilty because you would actually have to think.
Solid plastic seats are easier to keep sanitary. Cloth and vinyl can look clean but be filthy and are not easy to sanitize. That's probably why Tokyo made the switch.
Not to pile on, but public washrooms set-up to make it easier for the homeless are almost instantly turned into sex-encounter stations and hiding places for drug deals, in addition
to being vandalized. The French had a plan for special "self-cleaning" outdoor toilets that would be made of stainless steel, would lock and be blasted by high pressure hot water to
clean them. But they had to shelve the idea owing to drug addicts and drunks falling asleep or dying in the toilets.
On Mon, 1 May 2023 16:01:07 -0700 (PDT), RichA <rande...@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Monday, 1 May 2023 at 07:55:53 UTC-4, W wrote:
On Sunday, April 30, 2023 at 2:20:06?PM UTC, Chris L Peterson wrote:
On Sun, 30 Apr 2023 02:25:52 -0700 (PDT), RichA <rande...@gmail.com>RichA hasn't vandalized any subway seats.
wrote:
I saw a picture of a Tokyo subway car. Molded plastic unpadded seats. >> > > No more comfortable padding. Know why? Because the vermin vandalized the padding, cutting it. Just one more way the lower-class make things worse for people.
We have a "lower-class" because of people like you.
Maybe you haven't either, mostly because you hardly ever ride a subway. >>
Lower class? That's you, for accusing people of thought crimes. You'll never be guilty because you would actually have to think.
Solid plastic seats are easier to keep sanitary. Cloth and vinyl can look clean but be filthy and are not easy to sanitize. That's probably why Tokyo made the switch.
Not to pile on, but public washrooms set-up to make it easier for the homeless are almost instantly turned into sex-encounter stations and hiding places for drug deals, in additionYou are very familiar with such places, I see.
to being vandalized. The French had a plan for special "self-cleaning" outdoor toilets that would be made of stainless steel, would lock and be blasted by high pressure hot water to
clean them. But they had to shelve the idea owing to drug addicts and drunks falling asleep or dying in the toilets.
On Mon, 1 May 2023 04:55:51 -0700 (PDT), W <wsne...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
On Sunday, April 30, 2023 at 2:20:06?PM UTC, Chris L Peterson wrote:
On Sun, 30 Apr 2023 02:25:52 -0700 (PDT), RichA <rande...@gmail.com>
wrote:
I saw a picture of a Tokyo subway car. Molded plastic unpadded seats.
No more comfortable padding. Know why? Because the vermin vandalized the padding, cutting it. Just one more way the lower-class make things worse for people.
We have a "lower-class" because of people like you.
RichA hasn't vandalized any subway seats.
No. Like you, he's just a bitter old asshole full of hatred. Which is
the source of all our social woes.
We have a "lower-class" because of people like you.
On Sunday, April 30, 2023 at 8:20:06?AM UTC-6, Chris L Peterson wrote:
We have a "lower-class" because of people like you.
This exaggerates a bit. The poor would be with us even without the efforts
of people who oppose the government using their tax dollars to help them.
On Tue, 2 May 2023 23:26:24 -0700 (PDT), Quadibloc <jsa...@ecn.ab.ca>
wrote:
On Sunday, April 30, 2023 at 8:20:06?AM UTC-6, Chris L Peterson wrote:
We have a "lower-class" because of people like you.
This exaggerates a bit. The poor would be with us even without the efforts >of people who oppose the government using their tax dollars to help them. The problem is less poverty and more economic inequality. Which isdriven by those who think (using the term loosely) like Rich and W.
Poor people aren't vandals. Disaffected people are.
On Monday, 1 May 2023 at 07:55:53 UTC-4, W wrote:
On Sunday, April 30, 2023 at 2:20:06 PM UTC, Chris L Peterson wrote:
On Sun, 30 Apr 2023 02:25:52 -0700 (PDT), RichA <rande...@gmail.com> wrote:
I saw a picture of a Tokyo subway car. Molded plastic unpadded seats.
No more comfortable padding. Know why? Because the vermin vandalized the padding, cutting it. Just one more way the > lower-class make things worse for people.
On Wednesday, May 3, 2023 at 8:51:03?AM UTC-4, Chris L Peterson wrote:
On Tue, 2 May 2023 23:26:24 -0700 (PDT), Quadibloc <jsa...@ecn.ab.ca>
wrote:
On Sunday, April 30, 2023 at 8:20:06?AM UTC-6, Chris L Peterson wrote:driven by those who think (using the term loosely) like Rich and W.
We have a "lower-class" because of people like you.
This exaggerates a bit. The poor would be with us even without the efforts >> >of people who oppose the government using their tax dollars to help them. >> The problem is less poverty and more economic inequality. Which is
Poor people aren't vandals. Disaffected people are.
I have not created any "economic inequality" and I doubt that Rich has either.
If bus and subway riders are "disaffected" for some reason then they need to address their concerns with their local governments, not me.
What is YOUR "solution" for "economic inequality?" Electing liberals to office doesn't seem to help at all. Most of them seem quite wealthy compared to the average person (who doesn't destroy the seats on buses and subways, by the way.)
On Monday, 1 May 2023 at 07:55:53 UTC-4, W wrote:
On Sunday, April 30, 2023 at 2:20:06 PM UTC, Chris L Peterson wrote:
On Sun, 30 Apr 2023 02:25:52 -0700 (PDT), RichA <rande...@gmail.com> wrote:
I saw a picture of a Tokyo subway car. Molded plastic unpadded seats.
No more comfortable padding. Know why? Because the vermin vandalized the padding, cutting it. Just one more way the lower-class make things worse for people.
We have a "lower-class" because of people like you.RichA hasn't vandalized any subway seats.
Maybe you haven't either, mostly because you hardly ever ride a subway.
Lower class? That's you, for accusing people of thought crimes. You'll never be guilty because you would actually have to think.
Solid plastic seats are easier to keep sanitary. Cloth and vinyl can look clean but be filthy and are not easy to sanitize. That's probably why Tokyo made the switch.Not to pile on, but public washrooms set-up to make it easier for the homeless are almost instantly turned into sex-encounter stations and hiding places for drug deals, in addition
to being vandalized. The French had a plan for special "self-cleaning" outdoor toilets that would be made of stainless steel, would lock and be blasted by high pressure hot water to
clean them. But they had to shelve the idea owing to drug addicts and drunks falling asleep or dying in the toilets.
We haven't elected any liberals to office since Lincoln. There aren't
any liberal in public office in the U.S.
And the buses and trains I travel on have padded seats.
On Wednesday, May 3, 2023 at 10:54:02 PM UTC-6, Chris L Peterson wrote:
We haven't elected any liberals to office since Lincoln. There aren't
any liberal in public office in the U.S.
Eisenhower and Kennedy weren't too bad. And what about Franklin Delano Roosevelt?
I saw a picture of a Tokyo subway car. Molded plastic unpadded
seats.
No more comfortable padding. Know why? Because the vermin
vandalized the padding, cutting it. Just one more way the
lower-class make things worse for people.
On Wed, 3 May 2023 07:25:54 -0700 (PDT), W <wsne...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
On Wednesday, May 3, 2023 at 8:51:03?AM UTC-4, Chris L Peterson wrote:
On Tue, 2 May 2023 23:26:24 -0700 (PDT), Quadibloc <jsa...@ecn.ab.ca>
wrote:
On Sunday, April 30, 2023 at 8:20:06?AM UTC-6, Chris L Peterson wrote: >> >The problem is less poverty and more economic inequality. Which is
We have a "lower-class" because of people like you.
This exaggerates a bit. The poor would be with us even without the efforts
of people who oppose the government using their tax dollars to help them.
driven by those who think (using the term loosely) like Rich and W.
Poor people aren't vandals. Disaffected people are.
I have not created any "economic inequality" and I doubt that Rich has either.
If bus and subway riders are "disaffected" for some reason then they need to address their concerns with their local governments, not me.
What is YOUR "solution" for "economic inequality?" Electing liberals to office doesn't seem to help at all. Most of them seem quite wealthy compared to the average person (who doesn't destroy the seats on buses and subways, by the way.)
Wrong. You have by your votes, you have by your hate, you have by your worldview.
We haven't elected any liberals to office since Lincoln. There aren't
any liberal in public office in the U.S.
On Thursday, May 4, 2023 at 12:54:02?AM UTC-4, Chris L Peterson wrote:inequality" to which you allude?
On Wed, 3 May 2023 07:25:54 -0700 (PDT), W <wsne...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
On Wednesday, May 3, 2023 at 8:51:03?AM UTC-4, Chris L Peterson wrote:Wrong. You have by your votes, you have by your hate, you have by your
On Tue, 2 May 2023 23:26:24 -0700 (PDT), Quadibloc <jsa...@ecn.ab.ca>
wrote:
On Sunday, April 30, 2023 at 8:20:06?AM UTC-6, Chris L Peterson wrote: >> >> >The problem is less poverty and more economic inequality. Which is
We have a "lower-class" because of people like you.
This exaggerates a bit. The poor would be with us even without the efforts
of people who oppose the government using their tax dollars to help them.
driven by those who think (using the term loosely) like Rich and W.
Poor people aren't vandals. Disaffected people are.
I have not created any "economic inequality" and I doubt that Rich has either.
If bus and subway riders are "disaffected" for some reason then they need to address their concerns with their local governments, not me.
What is YOUR "solution" for "economic inequality?" Electing liberals to office doesn't seem to help at all. Most of them seem quite wealthy compared to the average person (who doesn't destroy the seats on buses and subways, by the way.)
worldview.
We haven't elected any liberals to office since Lincoln. There aren't
any liberal in public office in the U.S.
You are wrong on all counts.
I vote for candidates who provide the best economy, I have no hate, my world view is fine.
Lincoln was hardly a "liberal."
The buses and subways are heavily subsidized by (liberal-levied) taxes and some of the users vandalize or ruin them. Maybe we should stop building public transit for city dwellers and buy them their own limousines? Will that help the "economic
It's not as if you can provide any concrete solutions to anything. You just like to blame others.
On Thursday, May 4, 2023 at 11:48:19?AM UTC-6, Quadibloc wrote:
On Wednesday, May 3, 2023 at 10:54:02?PM UTC-6, Chris L Peterson wrote:
We haven't elected any liberals to office since Lincoln. There aren't
any liberal in public office in the U.S.
Eisenhower and Kennedy weren't too bad. And what about Franklin Delano
Roosevelt?
And, for that matter, what's Bernie Sanders? Or Alexandria Occasio-Cortez? >They hold elected public office in the U.S..
On Thu, 4 May 2023 10:52:23 -0700 (PDT), Quadibloc <jsa...@ecn.ab.ca>
wrote:
On Thursday, May 4, 2023 at 11:48:19?AM UTC-6, Quadibloc wrote:
On Wednesday, May 3, 2023 at 10:54:02?PM UTC-6, Chris L Peterson wrote: >>
We haven't elected any liberals to office since Lincoln. There aren't >> > any liberal in public office in the U.S.
Eisenhower and Kennedy weren't too bad. And what about Franklin Delano
Roosevelt?
And, for that matter, what's Bernie Sanders? Or Alexandria Occasio-Cortez? >They hold elected public office in the U.S..Yeah, FDR was reasonably called liberal. Not Eisenhower. Nor would I
call Sanders or AOC particularly liberal. In most of the world their
views are pretty middle of the road. It's just that the Overton window
has shifted so far to the right that even Republican views from 50
years ago are now treated as left wing.
On Thu, 4 May 2023 15:24:06 -0700 (PDT), W <wsne...@hotmail.com>inequality" to which you allude?
wrote:
On Thursday, May 4, 2023 at 12:54:02?AM UTC-4, Chris L Peterson wrote:
On Wed, 3 May 2023 07:25:54 -0700 (PDT), W <wsne...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
On Wednesday, May 3, 2023 at 8:51:03?AM UTC-4, Chris L Peterson wrote: >> >> On Tue, 2 May 2023 23:26:24 -0700 (PDT), Quadibloc <jsa...@ecn.ab.ca> >> >> wrote:Wrong. You have by your votes, you have by your hate, you have by your
On Sunday, April 30, 2023 at 8:20:06?AM UTC-6, Chris L Peterson wrote:The problem is less poverty and more economic inequality. Which is
We have a "lower-class" because of people like you.
This exaggerates a bit. The poor would be with us even without the efforts
of people who oppose the government using their tax dollars to help them.
driven by those who think (using the term loosely) like Rich and W.
Poor people aren't vandals. Disaffected people are.
I have not created any "economic inequality" and I doubt that Rich has either.
If bus and subway riders are "disaffected" for some reason then they need to address their concerns with their local governments, not me.
What is YOUR "solution" for "economic inequality?" Electing liberals to office doesn't seem to help at all. Most of them seem quite wealthy compared to the average person (who doesn't destroy the seats on buses and subways, by the way.)
worldview.
We haven't elected any liberals to office since Lincoln. There aren't
any liberal in public office in the U.S.
You are wrong on all counts.
I vote for candidates who provide the best economy, I have no hate, my world view is fine.
Lincoln was hardly a "liberal."
The buses and subways are heavily subsidized by (liberal-levied) taxes and some of the users vandalize or ruin them. Maybe we should stop building public transit for city dwellers and buy them their own limousines? Will that help the "economic
It's not as if you can provide any concrete solutions to anything. You just like to blame others.
Reagan began us on the path of economic destruction, and its been a
steady decline, faster during Republican administrations, slower
during Democratic ones, but always downhill... with no signs of that
trend changing.
There are good solutions. Highly progressive income taxes, with a 90% bracket. Asset taxes on high asset bases and estates. Taxes on
retained earnings of corporations. Requirements that corporations pay employees based on the value they create. High taxes on investment
income and unrealized gains above certain amounts. Increased
government spending on many programs.
On Friday, May 5, 2023 at 9:53:15?AM UTC-4, Chris L Peterson wrote:inequality" to which you allude?
On Thu, 4 May 2023 15:24:06 -0700 (PDT), W <wsne...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
On Thursday, May 4, 2023 at 12:54:02?AM UTC-4, Chris L Peterson wrote:
On Wed, 3 May 2023 07:25:54 -0700 (PDT), W <wsne...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
On Wednesday, May 3, 2023 at 8:51:03?AM UTC-4, Chris L Peterson wrote: >> >> >> On Tue, 2 May 2023 23:26:24 -0700 (PDT), Quadibloc <jsa...@ecn.ab.ca> >> >> >> wrote:Wrong. You have by your votes, you have by your hate, you have by your
On Sunday, April 30, 2023 at 8:20:06?AM UTC-6, Chris L Peterson wrote:The problem is less poverty and more economic inequality. Which is
We have a "lower-class" because of people like you.
This exaggerates a bit. The poor would be with us even without the efforts
of people who oppose the government using their tax dollars to help them.
driven by those who think (using the term loosely) like Rich and W.
Poor people aren't vandals. Disaffected people are.
I have not created any "economic inequality" and I doubt that Rich has either.
If bus and subway riders are "disaffected" for some reason then they need to address their concerns with their local governments, not me.
What is YOUR "solution" for "economic inequality?" Electing liberals to office doesn't seem to help at all. Most of them seem quite wealthy compared to the average person (who doesn't destroy the seats on buses and subways, by the way.)
worldview.
We haven't elected any liberals to office since Lincoln. There aren't
any liberal in public office in the U.S.
You are wrong on all counts.
I vote for candidates who provide the best economy, I have no hate, my world view is fine.
Lincoln was hardly a "liberal."
The buses and subways are heavily subsidized by (liberal-levied) taxes and some of the users vandalize or ruin them. Maybe we should stop building public transit for city dwellers and buy them their own limousines? Will that help the "economic
Reagan began us on the path of economic destruction, and its been a
It's not as if you can provide any concrete solutions to anything. You just like to blame others.
steady decline, faster during Republican administrations, slower
during Democratic ones, but always downhill... with no signs of that
trend changing.
There are good solutions. Highly progressive income taxes, with a 90%
bracket. Asset taxes on high asset bases and estates. Taxes on
retained earnings of corporations. Requirements that corporations pay
employees based on the value they create. High taxes on investment
income and unrealized gains above certain amounts. Increased
government spending on many programs.
What you overlook is that the economy stinks when Dems are in control, but is much better when Republicans are in control.
You have only suggested the confiscation of wealth, but you have no good ideas about what to do with it after that.
On Friday, May 5, 2023 at 9:48:32?AM UTC-4, Chris L Peterson wrote:
On Thu, 4 May 2023 10:52:23 -0700 (PDT), Quadibloc <jsa...@ecn.ab.ca>
wrote:
On Thursday, May 4, 2023 at 11:48:19?AM UTC-6, Quadibloc wrote:Yeah, FDR was reasonably called liberal. Not Eisenhower. Nor would I
On Wednesday, May 3, 2023 at 10:54:02?PM UTC-6, Chris L Peterson wrote: >> >>
We haven't elected any liberals to office since Lincoln. There aren't >> >> > any liberal in public office in the U.S.
Eisenhower and Kennedy weren't too bad. And what about Franklin Delano
Roosevelt?
And, for that matter, what's Bernie Sanders? Or Alexandria Occasio-Cortez? >> >They hold elected public office in the U.S..
call Sanders or AOC particularly liberal. In most of the world their
views are pretty middle of the road. It's just that the Overton window
has shifted so far to the right that even Republican views from 50
years ago are now treated as left wing.
No one can believe what you say, because you always contradict yourself.
First you say "No liberals since Lincoln" then you say FDR was liberal.
The "Overton window" is garbage.
The disappearance of many from this forum is a testament to avoiding dealing with evil and what is left behind are those who lost the struggle with themselves a long time ago by projecting contentions on to others with the same failings.
On Friday, May 5, 2023 at 11:56:10 AM UTC-7, Gerald Kelleher wrote:
The disappearance of many from this forum is a testament to avoiding dealing with evil and what is left behind are those who lost the struggle with themselves a long time ago by projecting contentions on to others with the same failings.And yet, here you are! Apparently, you lost the struggle!
On Friday, May 5, 2023 at 10:01:54 PM UTC+1, palsing wrote:
On Friday, May 5, 2023 at 11:56:10 AM UTC-7, Gerald Kelleher wrote:
The disappearance of many from this forum is a testament to avoiding dealing with evil and what is left behind are those who lost the struggle with themselves a long time ago by projecting contentions on to others with the same failings.
And yet, here you are! Apparently, you lost the struggle!
Are you going to tell me how astronomers know about the motion of Mercury and Venus and how to set up their back-and-forth ( direct/retrograde) motions around our central star as seen from a slower-moving Earth?-
On Friday, May 5, 2023 at 2:18:12 PM UTC-7, Gerald Kelleher wrote:benefit of satellites.
On Friday, May 5, 2023 at 10:01:54 PM UTC+1, palsing wrote:
On Friday, May 5, 2023 at 11:56:10 AM UTC-7, Gerald Kelleher wrote:
The disappearance of many from this forum is a testament to avoiding dealing with evil and what is left behind are those who lost the struggle with themselves a long time ago by projecting contentions on to others with the same failings.
And yet, here you are! Apparently, you lost the struggle!
Are you going to tell me how astronomers know about the motion of Mercury and Venus and how to set up their back-and-forth ( direct/retrograde) motions around our central star as seen from a slower-moving Earth?-Sure. Here is how they determined the orbit of comets back in the late 1700's...
https://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/2105/2105.03321.pdf
... and the same calculations were also applicable to both Venus and Mercury... and all the other planets, for that matter. The motions of the inner planets have been understood to a great deal of accuracy for centuries, Gerald, even without the
Just because you can't understand the math involved does not mean that the 18th-century scientists and mathematicians couldn't because obviously, they did!now!
It is *very* common these days to determine the orbit of a newly-discovered comet in just a matter of days, to a high degree of accuracy, and it was also possible a couple of centuries ago... folks back then were every bit as intelligent as they are
On Saturday, November 29, 2014 1:39:31 PM UTC-8, oriel36 wrote:
People must be truly desperate despite the fact that contemporary imaging makes proof of orbital motion such a spectacular sight to behold.
Gerald, if you really think this is an image, you are dumber than a box of hammers. Just where was this photographer standing in order to get such a shot of Venus BELOW the Sun in his field of view?
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