• 3 Decades on the usenet

    From Gerald Kelleher@21:1/5 to All on Tue Nov 29 02:56:15 2022
    It is coming up to 30 years since I first began dealing with the scientific method people and the subculture they subscribe to, with climate change modelling being just another symptom of that dangerous empiricism.

    The defence mechanisms of this subculture are similar to scientology as are the type of people who are capable of being swayed by very narrow and contrived views appealing to the false satisfaction of anxiety, doom and dire predictions-

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brain-Washing_(book)

    Instead of making an effort to seek out the source of these modelling convictions from their origins with Isaac Newton in the late 17th century, many media publications want to double down on the subculture and its declarations of doom.

    Reducing climate science to human behaviour is as bad as reducing human behaviour to evolutionary science, as the Victorian academics attempted to do via natural selection.

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  • From Mike Collins@21:1/5 to kellehe...@gmail.com on Tue Nov 29 09:06:04 2022
    On Tuesday, 29 November 2022 at 10:56:17 UTC, kellehe...@gmail.com wrote:
    It is coming up to 30 years since I first began dealing with the scientific method people and the subculture they subscribe to, with climate change modelling being just another symptom of that dangerous empiricism.

    The defence mechanisms of this subculture are similar to scientology as are the type of people who are capable of being swayed by very narrow and contrived views appealing to the false satisfaction of anxiety, doom and dire predictions-

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brain-Washing_(book)

    Instead of making an effort to seek out the source of these modelling convictions from their origins with Isaac Newton in the late 17th century, many media publications want to double down on the subculture and its declarations of doom.

    Reducing climate science to human behaviour is as bad as reducing human behaviour to evolutionary science, as the Victorian academics attempted to do via natural selection.
    Let me quote a friend of mine on the day of his retirement. “Thirty wasted years!”.

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  • From Gerald Kelleher@21:1/5 to All on Tue Nov 29 10:07:58 2022
    Let me quote a friend of mine on the day of his retirement. “Thirty wasted years!”.

    Sir Isaac told you he was standing on the shoulder of giants, so he saw more than they did; however, the purpose was to piggyback on astronomical insights and methods that weren't his to vandalise and distort. My 30 years were spent keeping the company
    of the geocentric and Sun-centred astronomers and timekeepers who graced the world with their innovations and insights.

    The world has wasted 250+ years on mathematicians/experimental theorists who never did have a feel for what they were observing and couldn't care less either.

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  • From palsing@21:1/5 to Mike Collins on Tue Nov 29 21:58:45 2022
    On Tuesday, November 29, 2022 at 9:06:06 AM UTC-8, Mike Collins wrote:
    On Tuesday, 29 November 2022 at 10:56:17 UTC, kellehe...@gmail.com wrote:
    It is coming up to 30 years since I first began dealing with the scientific method people and the subculture they subscribe to, with climate change modelling being just another symptom of that dangerous empiricism.

    The defence mechanisms of this subculture are similar to scientology as are the type of people who are capable of being swayed by very narrow and contrived views appealing to the false satisfaction of anxiety, doom and dire predictions-

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brain-Washing_(book)

    Instead of making an effort to seek out the source of these modelling convictions from their origins with Isaac Newton in the late 17th century, many media publications want to double down on the subculture and its declarations of doom.

    Reducing climate science to human behaviour is as bad as reducing human behaviour to evolutionary science, as the Victorian academics attempted to do via natural selection.

    Let me quote a friend of mine on the day of his retirement. “Thirty wasted years!”.

    😂

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  • From StarDust@21:1/5 to kellehe...@gmail.com on Thu Dec 1 04:00:40 2022
    On Tuesday, November 29, 2022 at 2:56:17 AM UTC-8, kellehe...@gmail.com wrote:
    It is coming up to 30 years since I first began dealing with the scientific method people and the subculture they subscribe to, with climate change modelling being just another symptom of that dangerous empiricism.

    The defence mechanisms of this subculture are similar to scientology as are the type of people who are capable of being swayed by very narrow and contrived views appealing to the false satisfaction of anxiety, doom and dire predictions-

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brain-Washing_(book)

    Instead of making an effort to seek out the source of these modelling convictions from their origins with Isaac Newton in the late 17th century, many media publications want to double down on the subculture and its declarations of doom.

    Reducing climate science to human behaviour is as bad as reducing human behaviour to evolutionary science, as the Victorian academics attempted to do via natural selection.

    Ja!
    https://youtube.com/shorts/yf6kflTnJHY?feature=share

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  • From Quadibloc@21:1/5 to kellehe...@gmail.com on Fri Dec 2 23:25:02 2022
    On Tuesday, November 29, 2022 at 11:08:00 AM UTC-7, kellehe...@gmail.com wrote:

    The world has wasted 250+ years on mathematicians/experimental theorists
    who never did have a feel for what they were observing and couldn't care less either.

    If that were true, how do you explain the discovery of Neptune?

    The world has good reason for choosing to follow on the path set forth by Newton, instead of switching to the approach you advocate. But you wilfully refuse to see the evidence for that - and, thus, you are profoundly blind to it, for the reason Jesus gave - "There are none so blind as those who refuse
    to see".

    John Savard

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  • From Gerald Kelleher@21:1/5 to All on Sat Dec 3 00:03:53 2022
    In an effort to promote and demonstrate solar system research as it truly exists, observers get to keep the company of the great innovators stretching back to remote antiquity along with the Eternal in creation. Some insights come slowly and take years
    to develop, while others are almost instantly recognisable.

    The scaling up of observations of Jupiter's moons as they run back and forth around their parent planet to the back-and-forth motions of Venus and Mercury around our parent star is an example of something instantly enjoyable-

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcrBAuLBXag

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2uCtot1aDg

    There is no right nor wrong to these things, just a necessary improvement on the insights of the original solar system researchers using a moving Earth in a Sun-centred system. They would have immediately recognised the necessary modification as
    satellite imaging makes all the difference, and so it is for all future observers.

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