• DART

    From palsing@21:1/5 to All on Mon Sep 26 15:59:23 2022
    As I type this it is 17 minutes until impact... watch NASA TV to see it live...

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  • From palsing@21:1/5 to palsing on Mon Sep 26 17:17:26 2022
    On Monday, September 26, 2022 at 3:59:24 PM UTC-7, palsing wrote:
    As I type this it is 17 minutes until impact... watch NASA TV to see it live...

    Direct hit!

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  • From wAYNE@21:1/5 to palsing on Mon Sep 26 20:57:20 2022
    On 9/26/22 8:17 PM, palsing wrote:
    On Monday, September 26, 2022 at 3:59:24 PM UTC-7, palsing wrote:
    As I type this it is 17 minutes until impact... watch NASA TV to see it live...

    Direct hit!

    Yup, and it only cost $325 million for the project.

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  • From palsing@21:1/5 to wAYNE on Mon Sep 26 18:44:32 2022
    On Monday, September 26, 2022 at 5:57:24 PM UTC-7, wAYNE wrote:
    On 9/26/22 8:17 PM, palsing wrote:

    On Monday, September 26, 2022 at 3:59:24 PM UTC-7, palsing wrote:
    As I type this it is 17 minutes until impact... watch NASA TV to see it live...

    Direct hit!

    Yup, and it only cost $325 million for the project.

    A mere drop in the bucket.

    Consider that the US spends 1753 billion dollars per year, or 4.8 billion dollars PER DAY, on welfare...

    https://www.usgovernmentspending.com/us_welfare_spending_40.html

    ... so this project cost less than 2 hours of the welfare budget.

    I would call that a real bargain!

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  • From StarDust@21:1/5 to palsing on Mon Sep 26 23:16:12 2022
    On Monday, September 26, 2022 at 6:44:34 PM UTC-7, palsing wrote:
    On Monday, September 26, 2022 at 5:57:24 PM UTC-7, wAYNE wrote:
    On 9/26/22 8:17 PM, palsing wrote:

    On Monday, September 26, 2022 at 3:59:24 PM UTC-7, palsing wrote:
    As I type this it is 17 minutes until impact... watch NASA TV to see it live...

    Direct hit!

    Yup, and it only cost $325 million for the project.
    A mere drop in the bucket.

    Consider that the US spends 1753 billion dollars per year, or 4.8 billion dollars PER DAY, on welfare...

    https://www.usgovernmentspending.com/us_welfare_spending_40.html

    ... so this project cost less than 2 hours of the welfare budget.

    I would call that a real bargain!

    Indirect investment into the economy!
    Welfare recipients spends the money on rents, food etc...
    Stores are relying on this money!
    Also, saves the country from a revolution from the poor, burning up the city. Soon France starts the Universal income.
    Actually, paying people not to work!
    Have you heard of subsidizing farmers not to grow food etc...?
    Same thing!

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  • From Quadibloc@21:1/5 to palsing on Fri Sep 30 22:35:37 2022
    On Monday, September 26, 2022 at 4:59:24 PM UTC-6, palsing wrote:
    As I type this it is 17 minutes until impact... watch NASA TV to see it live...

    In another newsgroup, I saw a reference to how, some time ago, an
    astrologer sued the U.S. government to stop some other asteroid
    deflection effort on the grounds that it would interfere in the accuracy
    of astrological prediction.

    This led me to realize something about the DART mission.

    To view an asteroid as not something that travels eternally on an
    assigned path in the sky, but as a massive body, moving under the
    influence of gravitation and momentum and inertia, and hence
    subject to an alteration of its motion due to crashing something
    into it... requires adherence to the Newtonian view of the heavenly
    clockwork.

    Ah, I've found the detail. It was the Russian astrologer Marina Bai who
    sued, in response to the Deep Impact mission to the comet Tempel 1.

    John Savard

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  • From W@21:1/5 to Quadibloc on Sat Oct 1 03:41:39 2022
    On Saturday, October 1, 2022 at 1:35:39 AM UTC-4, Quadibloc wrote:
    On Monday, September 26, 2022 at 4:59:24 PM UTC-6, palsing wrote:
    As I type this it is 17 minutes until impact... watch NASA TV to see it live...
    In another newsgroup, I saw a reference to how, some time ago, an
    astrologer sued the U.S. government to stop some other asteroid
    deflection effort on the grounds that it would interfere in the accuracy
    of astrological prediction.

    This led me to realize something about the DART mission.

    To view an asteroid as not something that travels eternally on an
    assigned path in the sky, but as a massive body, moving under the
    influence of gravitation and momentum and inertia, and hence
    subject to an alteration of its motion due to crashing something
    into it... requires adherence to the Newtonian view of the heavenly clockwork.

    Ah, I've found the detail. It was the Russian astrologer Marina Bai who
    sued, in response to the Deep Impact mission to the comet Tempel 1.

    In the final moments before impact, mission control sees that the target has portholes, antennas and strange Klingon-like lettering on its exterior.

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  • From Martin Brown@21:1/5 to palsing on Wed Oct 5 09:31:05 2022
    On 26/09/2022 23:59, palsing wrote:
    As I type this it is 17 minutes until impact... watch NASA TV to see it live...

    The impact has given the asteroid a really good shake up and it has now developed a long cometary tail as seen by SOAR in Chile in this image.

    https://www.cnet.com/science/space/asteroid-smacked-by-nasas-dart-now-has-a-huge-comet-like-debris-tail/

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-63140097

    I wonder if the two apparent tails front and back are recent trajectory
    and away from the sun like they would be for a normal comet or whether
    one of them is radial to the impact site ?

    I still recall watching Hale-Bopp's nucleus spinning and emitting a
    spiral bright outflow taken by Terry Platt of Starlight Xpress.

    I can't find that one but this is an example (though not as good)

    https://cosmosmagazine.com/space/comet-action-caught-in-close-up/

    Ah got it! But the timing is a bit screwy in the MPEG so it plays way
    too fast - blink and you will miss it. It was a tour de force in its
    day. It could do with slowing down 5x.

    https://www2.jpl.nasa.gov/comet/anim25.html

    (from NASA archives)

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    Regards,
    Martin Brown

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