Though if you are insane, you can pay $12,000 new for a six in Chinese apo. You'll be lucky to get 1/2 you money back if you resell.
https://www.cloudynights.com/classifieds/item/303918-astro-physics-130gtx-and-accessories/
Though if you are insane, you can pay $12,000 new for a six in Chinese apo. >You'll be lucky to get 1/2 you money back if you resell.
https://www.cloudynights.com/classifieds/item/303918-astro-physics-130gtx-and-accessories/
Though if you are insane, you can pay $12,000 new for a six in Chinese apo. You'll be lucky to get 1/2 you money back if you resell.
https://www.cloudynights.com/classifieds/item/303918-astro-physics-130gtx-and-accessories/
On Sat, 6 Aug 2022 00:13:12 -0700 (PDT), RichA <rande...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Though if you are insane, you can pay $12,000 new for a six in Chinese apo. >You'll be lucky to get 1/2 you money back if you resell.
https://www.cloudynights.com/classifieds/item/303918-astro-physics-130gtx-and-accessories/You sure are obsessed with what other people are willing to pay for astronomical equipment. You seem to think of it as nothing but a
financial investment.
On Saturday, August 6, 2022 at 9:05:24 AM UTC-4, Chris L Peterson wrote:
On Sat, 6 Aug 2022 00:13:12 -0700 (PDT), RichA <rande...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Though if you are insane, you can pay $12,000 new for a six in Chinese apo.
You'll be lucky to get 1/2 you money back if you resell.
He seems to buy, sell and trade equipment far more frequently than most other amateur astronomers do.https://www.cloudynights.com/classifieds/item/303918-astro-physics-130gtx-and-accessories/You sure are obsessed with what other people are willing to pay for astronomical equipment. You seem to think of it as nothing but a
financial investment.
On Sat, 6 Aug 2022 00:13:12 -0700 (PDT), RichA <rande...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Though if you are insane, you can pay $12,000 new for a six in Chinese apo. >You'll be lucky to get 1/2 you money back if you resell.
https://www.cloudynights.com/classifieds/item/303918-astro-physics-130gtx-and-accessories/You sure are obsessed with what other people are willing to pay for astronomical equipment. You seem to think of it as nothing but a
financial investment.
Though if you are insane, you can pay $12,000 new for a six in Chinese apo. You'll be lucky to get 1/2 you money back if you resell.
https://www.cloudynights.com/classifieds/item/303918-astro-physics-130gtx-and-accessories/
You sure are obsessed with what other people are willing to pay for astronomical equipment. You seem to think of it as nothing but a
financial investment.
On Saturday, 6 August 2022 at 09:24:31 UTC-4, W wrote:I wouldn't have spent at least six-figures all told, and absolutely didn't make a profit when I sold most >stuff.
On Saturday, August 6, 2022 at 9:05:24 AM UTC-4, Chris L Peterson wrote:
On Sat, 6 Aug 2022 00:13:12 -0700 (PDT), RichA <rande...@gmail.com> wrote:
Though if you are insane, you can pay $12,000 new for a six in Chinese apo.
You'll be lucky to get 1/2 you money back if you resell.
I did my time. I had a 60mm for five years, just a C8 for 10 years and did a LOT of observing, learned the sky. But I have used and bought a lot of telescopes, purely out of interest in what they could provide for observing. If I cared about the money,He seems to buy, sell and trade equipment far more frequently than most other amateur astronomers do.https://www.cloudynights.com/classifieds/item/303918-astro-physics-130gtx-and-accessories/You sure are obsessed with what other people are willing to pay for astronomical equipment. You seem to think of it as nothing but a financial investment.
On Saturday, 6 August 2022 at 09:05:24 UTC-4, Chris L Peterson wrote:
On Sat, 6 Aug 2022 00:13:12 -0700 (PDT), RichA <rande...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Though if you are insane, you can pay $12,000 new for a six in Chinese apo. >> >You'll be lucky to get 1/2 you money back if you resell.You sure are obsessed with what other people are willing to pay for
https://www.cloudynights.com/classifieds/item/303918-astro-physics-130gtx-and-accessories/
astronomical equipment. You seem to think of it as nothing but a
financial investment.
Not hardly. Optical investment. I can see spending $1000-$2000 on a Chinese scope, but not $5k-$12k, they just do not have the pedigree.
On Saturday, August 6, 2022 at 7:05:24 AM UTC-6, Chris L Peterson wrote:
You sure are obsessed with what other people are willing to pay for
astronomical equipment. You seem to think of it as nothing but a
financial investment.
There are other reasons to be concerned about the resale value of
a telescope.
If one is going to use a telescope for years, but then trade up someday
after one has some more money saved, resale value will help.
But the resale value of a telescope also tells something about it: what
is its quality, how long is it expected to last? What kind of a reputation >has it earned?
Rich's obsession with
how other people choose to spend their own money, as well as his
assumptions about what may or may not actually be high quality, is
tiresome.
On Sunday, August 7, 2022 at 7:44:25 AM UTC-6, Chris L Peterson wrote:
Rich's obsession with
how other people choose to spend their own money, as well as his
assumptions about what may or may not actually be high quality, is
tiresome.
Given what the EEEVIL Xi Jinping has been up to in response to Nancy
Pelosi's visit to Taiwan, l was more inclined to see his bashing of
cheap Chinese-made telescopes as serving a useful purpose, rather than >possibly perceiving it as borderline racist.
John Savard
He pretty much hates everything. And I blame Pelosi for saber rattling
here, more than I blame the response.
On Sunday, August 7, 2022 at 4:10:05 PM UTC-4, Chris L Peterson wrote:
He pretty much hates everything. And I blame Pelosi for saber rattling
here, more than I blame the response.
Pelosi has every right to visit Taiwan. CCP does not get to dictate otherwise.
On Sunday, August 7, 2022 at 4:10:05 PM UTC-4, Chris L Peterson
wrote:
He pretty much hates everything. And I blame Pelosi for saber
rattling here, more than I blame the response.
Pelosi has every right to visit Taiwan. CCP does not get to
dictate otherwise.
W <wsnell01@hotmail.com> wrote in >news:755a0090-fcc3-4a4b-b4fe-a37b0b664493n@googlegroups.com:
On Sunday, August 7, 2022 at 4:10:05 PM UTC-4, Chris L PetersonNot to mentione that amount of saber rattling China has done for
wrote:
He pretty much hates everything. And I blame Pelosi for saber
rattling here, more than I blame the response.
Pelosi has every right to visit Taiwan. CCP does not get to
dictate otherwise.
decades, and which as ramped up considerably in recent years.
But Chris loves the tase of his Chineses masters' dicks.
On Mon, 8 Aug 2022 04:04:02 -0700 (PDT), W <wsne...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
On Sunday, August 7, 2022 at 4:10:05 PM UTC-4, Chris L Peterson wrote:
He pretty much hates everything. And I blame Pelosi for saber rattling
here, more than I blame the response.
Pelosi has every right to visit Taiwan. CCP does not get to dictate otherwise.And you have every right to say whatever you want here. It doesn't
make you less of a fool for doing so.
On Sat, 6 Aug 2022 23:49:40 -0700 (PDT), Quadibloc <jsa...@ecn.ab.ca>
wrote:
On Saturday, August 6, 2022 at 7:05:24 AM UTC-6, Chris L Peterson wrote:
You sure are obsessed with what other people are willing to pay for
astronomical equipment. You seem to think of it as nothing but a
financial investment.
There are other reasons to be concerned about the resale value of
a telescope.
If one is going to use a telescope for years, but then trade up someday >after one has some more money saved, resale value will help.
But the resale value of a telescope also tells something about it: whatThere are people who will spend thousands for a little Questar, which performs no better than a dozen no name Chinese brands. There are
is its quality, how long is it expected to last? What kind of a reputation >has it earned?
people who will spend three times more for equipment to get a 2% boost
in performance. There are all kinds of reasons that different people
choose different equipment. Which is just fine. Rich's obsession with
how other people choose to spend their own money, as well as his
assumptions about what may or may not actually be high quality, is
tiresome.
On Mon, 08 Aug 2022 14:17:16 GMT, Ninapenda Jibini
<taus...@gmail.com> wrote:
W <wsne...@hotmail.com> wrote in >news:755a0090-fcc3-4a4b...@googlegroups.com:
On Sunday, August 7, 2022 at 4:10:05 PM UTC-4, Chris L PetersonNot to mentione that amount of saber rattling China has done for
wrote:
He pretty much hates everything. And I blame Pelosi for saber
rattling here, more than I blame the response.
Pelosi has every right to visit Taiwan. CCP does not get to
dictate otherwise.
decades, and which as ramped up considerably in recent years.
But Chris loves the tase of his Chineses masters' dicks.So typical of the wingnut right these days. Nothing but name calling.
Trump had the behavior of a 5-year old, and so do his worshipers.
On Sunday, August 7, 2022 at 12:35:42 AM UTC-4, RichA wrote:money, I wouldn't have spent at least six-figures all told, and absolutely didn't make a profit when I sold most >stuff.
On Saturday, 6 August 2022 at 09:24:31 UTC-4, W wrote:
On Saturday, August 6, 2022 at 9:05:24 AM UTC-4, Chris L Peterson wrote:
On Sat, 6 Aug 2022 00:13:12 -0700 (PDT), RichA <rande...@gmail.com> wrote:
Though if you are insane, you can pay $12,000 new for a six in Chinese apo.
You'll be lucky to get 1/2 you money back if you resell.
I did my time. I had a 60mm for five years, just a C8 for 10 years and did a LOT of observing, learned the sky. But I have used and bought a lot of telescopes, purely out of interest in what they could provide for observing. If I cared about theHe seems to buy, sell and trade equipment far more frequently than most other amateur astronomers do.https://www.cloudynights.com/classifieds/item/303918-astro-physics-130gtx-and-accessories/You sure are obsessed with what other people are willing to pay for astronomical equipment. You seem to think of it as nothing but a financial investment.
___
So you don't worry about financial loss in your telescope dealings, but you think other people should be concerned about the money they might lose.
On Mon, 8 Aug 2022 08:04:45 -0700 (PDT), RichA
<rander3128@gmail.com> wrote:
On Monday, 8 August 2022 at 10:39:38 UTC-4, Chris L Peterson
wrote:
On Mon, 08 Aug 2022 14:17:16 GMT, Ninapenda Jibini
<taus...@gmail.com> wrote:
W <wsne...@hotmail.com> wrote inSo typical of the wingnut right these days. Nothing but name
news:755a0090-fcc3-4a4b...@googlegroups.com:
On Sunday, August 7, 2022 at 4:10:05 PM UTC-4, Chris LNot to mentione that amount of saber rattling China has done
Peterson wrote:
He pretty much hates everything. And I blame Pelosi for
saber rattling here, more than I blame the response.
Pelosi has every right to visit Taiwan. CCP does not get to
dictate otherwise.
for decades, and which as ramped up considerably in recent
years.
But Chris loves the tase of his Chineses masters' dicks.
calling. Trump had the behavior of a 5-year old, and so do his
worshipers.
We've been fairly lucky that this group hasn't been bombarded
with endless leftwing threads by spammers like others have. Are
you planning on changing its course?
It isn't "leftwing" to point out that the wingnut right has lost
its collective mind.
On Monday, 8 August 2022 at 10:39:38 UTC-4, Chris L Peterson wrote:
On Mon, 08 Aug 2022 14:17:16 GMT, Ninapenda Jibini
<taus...@gmail.com> wrote:
W <wsne...@hotmail.com> wrote inSo typical of the wingnut right these days. Nothing but name calling.
news:755a0090-fcc3-4a4b...@googlegroups.com:
On Sunday, August 7, 2022 at 4:10:05 PM UTC-4, Chris L PetersonNot to mentione that amount of saber rattling China has done for
wrote:
He pretty much hates everything. And I blame Pelosi for saber
rattling here, more than I blame the response.
Pelosi has every right to visit Taiwan. CCP does not get to
dictate otherwise.
decades, and which as ramped up considerably in recent years.
But Chris loves the tase of his Chineses masters' dicks.
Trump had the behavior of a 5-year old, and so do his worshipers.
We've been fairly lucky that this group hasn't been bombarded with endless leftwing threads by spammers like others have.
Are you planning on changing its course?
Chris L Peterson <clp@alumni.caltech.edu> wrote in >news:pbh2fh9c7g4ha9fds7kcijo0saubm74q9c@4ax.com:
On Mon, 8 Aug 2022 08:04:45 -0700 (PDT), RichA
<rander3128@gmail.com> wrote:
On Monday, 8 August 2022 at 10:39:38 UTC-4, Chris L Peterson
wrote:
On Mon, 08 Aug 2022 14:17:16 GMT, Ninapenda Jibini
<taus...@gmail.com> wrote:
W <wsne...@hotmail.com> wrote inSo typical of the wingnut right these days. Nothing but name
news:755a0090-fcc3-4a4b...@googlegroups.com:
On Sunday, August 7, 2022 at 4:10:05 PM UTC-4, Chris LNot to mentione that amount of saber rattling China has done
Peterson wrote:
He pretty much hates everything. And I blame Pelosi for
saber rattling here, more than I blame the response.
Pelosi has every right to visit Taiwan. CCP does not get to
dictate otherwise.
for decades, and which as ramped up considerably in recent
years.
But Chris loves the tase of his Chineses masters' dicks.
calling. Trump had the behavior of a 5-year old, and so do his
worshipers.
We've been fairly lucky that this group hasn't been bombarded
with endless leftwing threads by spammers like others have. Are
you planning on changing its course?
It isn't "leftwing" to point out that the wingnut right has lost
its collective mind.
You make my point with every post.
And will continue to do so.
On Mon, 8 Aug 2022 04:04:02 -0700 (PDT), W <wsne...@hotmail.com>
Pelosi has every right to visit Taiwan. CCP does not get to dictate otherwise.
And you have every right to say whatever you want here. It doesn't
make you less of a fool for doing so.
On Mon, 08 Aug 2022 11:14:22 -0700, Jibini Kula Tumbili
Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
Chris L Peterson <clp@alumni.caltech.edu> wrote in >>news:pbh2fh9c7g4ha9fds7kcijo0saubm74q9c@4ax.com:
On Mon, 8 Aug 2022 08:04:45 -0700 (PDT), RichA
<rander3128@gmail.com> wrote:
On Monday, 8 August 2022 at 10:39:38 UTC-4, Chris L Peterson
wrote:
On Mon, 08 Aug 2022 14:17:16 GMT, Ninapenda Jibini
<taus...@gmail.com> wrote:
W <wsne...@hotmail.com> wrote inSo typical of the wingnut right these days. Nothing but name
news:755a0090-fcc3-4a4b...@googlegroups.com:
On Sunday, August 7, 2022 at 4:10:05 PM UTC-4, Chris LNot to mentione that amount of saber rattling China has
Peterson wrote:
He pretty much hates everything. And I blame Pelosi for
saber rattling here, more than I blame the response.
Pelosi has every right to visit Taiwan. CCP does not get
to dictate otherwise.
done for decades, and which as ramped up considerably in
recent years.
But Chris loves the tase of his Chineses masters' dicks.
calling. Trump had the behavior of a 5-year old, and so do
his worshipers.
We've been fairly lucky that this group hasn't been bombarded
with endless leftwing threads by spammers like others have.
Are you planning on changing its course?
It isn't "leftwing" to point out that the wingnut right has
lost its collective mind.
You make my point with every post.
And will continue to do so.
As you have no point, that is objectively false.
On Monday, August 8, 2022 at 7:27:55 AM UTC-6, Chris L Peterson wrote:
On Mon, 8 Aug 2022 04:04:02 -0700 (PDT), W <wsne...@hotmail.com>
Pelosi has every right to visit Taiwan. CCP does not get to dictate otherwise.
And you have every right to say whatever you want here. It doesn't
make you less of a fool for doing so.
Maybe many other things he has written here are in that category, but here
he just said the plain truth. Xi Jinping, the evil tyrant of the repressive, totalitarian
communist regime of the Chinese mainland, does not have any right to limit >the relations between the United States and the Republic of China in Taiwan.
Of course, from a practical standpoint, instead of a moral standpoint, one has >to take the mainland regime's position into account because it has nukes.
But we don't have to like it, or pretend that we do.
Chris L Peterson <clp@alumni.caltech.edu> wrote in >news:0mo2fh1j8lkr1nk3g3q6gh3g69e1mmjn4a@4ax.com:
On Mon, 08 Aug 2022 11:14:22 -0700, Jibini Kula TumbiliQED. You can't help yoruself.
Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
Chris L Peterson <clp@alumni.caltech.edu> wrote in >>>news:pbh2fh9c7g4ha9fds7kcijo0saubm74q9c@4ax.com:
On Mon, 8 Aug 2022 08:04:45 -0700 (PDT), RichA
<rander3128@gmail.com> wrote:
On Monday, 8 August 2022 at 10:39:38 UTC-4, Chris L Peterson
wrote:
On Mon, 08 Aug 2022 14:17:16 GMT, Ninapenda Jibini
<taus...@gmail.com> wrote:
W <wsne...@hotmail.com> wrote inSo typical of the wingnut right these days. Nothing but name
news:755a0090-fcc3-4a4b...@googlegroups.com:
On Sunday, August 7, 2022 at 4:10:05 PM UTC-4, Chris LNot to mentione that amount of saber rattling China has
Peterson wrote:
He pretty much hates everything. And I blame Pelosi for
saber rattling here, more than I blame the response.
Pelosi has every right to visit Taiwan. CCP does not get
to dictate otherwise.
done for decades, and which as ramped up considerably in
recent years.
But Chris loves the tase of his Chineses masters' dicks.
calling. Trump had the behavior of a 5-year old, and so do
his worshipers.
We've been fairly lucky that this group hasn't been bombarded
with endless leftwing threads by spammers like others have.
Are you planning on changing its course?
It isn't "leftwing" to point out that the wingnut right has
lost its collective mind.
You make my point with every post.
And will continue to do so.
As you have no point, that is objectively false.
On Mon, 8 Aug 2022 08:03:13 -0700 (PDT), RichA <rande...@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Sunday, 7 August 2022 at 09:44:25 UTC-4, Chris L Peterson wrote:
On Sat, 6 Aug 2022 23:49:40 -0700 (PDT), Quadibloc <jsa...@ecn.ab.ca>
wrote:
On Saturday, August 6, 2022 at 7:05:24 AM UTC-6, Chris L Peterson wrote: >> >There are people who will spend thousands for a little Questar, which
You sure are obsessed with what other people are willing to pay for
astronomical equipment. You seem to think of it as nothing but a
financial investment.
There are other reasons to be concerned about the resale value of
a telescope.
If one is going to use a telescope for years, but then trade up someday >> >after one has some more money saved, resale value will help.
But the resale value of a telescope also tells something about it: what >> >is its quality, how long is it expected to last? What kind of a reputation
has it earned?
performs no better than a dozen no name Chinese brands. There are
people who will spend three times more for equipment to get a 2% boost
in performance. There are all kinds of reasons that different people
choose different equipment. Which is just fine. Rich's obsession with
how other people choose to spend their own money, as well as his
assumptions about what may or may not actually be high quality, is
tiresome.
Simple solution; don't read the posts! They all have subject lines to clue you in.Or better, don't post your drivel in the first place.
Though if you are insane, you can pay $12,000 new for a six in Chinese apo. You'll be lucky to get 1/2 you money back if you resell.
https://www.cloudynights.com/classifieds/item/303918-astro-physics-130gtx-and-accessories/
On Saturday, August 6, 2022 at 3:13:14 AM UTC-4, RichA wrote:compare double stars with them?
Though if you are insane, you can pay $12,000 new for a six in Chinese apo.
You'll be lucky to get 1/2 you money back if you resell.
https://www.cloudynights.com/classifieds/item/303918-astro-physics-130gtx-and-accessories/Iām not sure how this thread started - I just arrived to this group - but Iām eager to put my 6ā Esprit, which I purchased for 6K new years ago, against the Astrotech at FLO. If this would settle any arguments, why not get together one night and
On Mon, 8 Aug 2022 12:28:28 -0700 (PDT), Quadibloc <jsa...@ecn.ab.ca>
wrote:
On Monday, August 8, 2022 at 7:27:55 AM UTC-6, Chris L Peterson wrote:
On Mon, 8 Aug 2022 04:04:02 -0700 (PDT), W <wsne...@hotmail.com>
Pelosi has every right to visit Taiwan. CCP does not get to dictate otherwise.
And you have every right to say whatever you want here. It doesn't
make you less of a fool for doing so.
Maybe many other things he has written here are in that category, but here >he just said the plain truth. Xi Jinping, the evil tyrant of the repressive, totalitarian
communist regime of the Chinese mainland, does not have any right to limit >the relations between the United States and the Republic of China in Taiwan.
Of course, from a practical standpoint, instead of a moral standpoint, one has
to take the mainland regime's position into account because it has nukes.
But we don't have to like it, or pretend that we do.And we don't need irresponsible politicians who go against what the
State Deparment advises.
On Mon, 08 Aug 2022 13:35:58 -0700, Jibini Kula Tumbili
Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
Chris L Peterson <clp@alumni.caltech.edu> wrote in >>news:0mo2fh1j8lkr1nk3g3q6gh3g69e1mmjn4a@4ax.com:
On Mon, 08 Aug 2022 11:14:22 -0700, Jibini Kula TumbiliQED. You can't help yoruself.
Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
Chris L Peterson <clp@alumni.caltech.edu> wrote in >>>>news:pbh2fh9c7g4ha9fds7kcijo0saubm74q9c@4ax.com:
On Mon, 8 Aug 2022 08:04:45 -0700 (PDT), RichA
<rander3128@gmail.com> wrote:
On Monday, 8 August 2022 at 10:39:38 UTC-4, Chris L Peterson
wrote:
On Mon, 08 Aug 2022 14:17:16 GMT, Ninapenda Jibini
<taus...@gmail.com> wrote:
W <wsne...@hotmail.com> wrote inSo typical of the wingnut right these days. Nothing but
news:755a0090-fcc3-4a4b...@googlegroups.com:
On Sunday, August 7, 2022 at 4:10:05 PM UTC-4, Chris LNot to mentione that amount of saber rattling China has
Peterson wrote:
He pretty much hates everything. And I blame Pelosi
for saber rattling here, more than I blame the
response.
Pelosi has every right to visit Taiwan. CCP does not
get to dictate otherwise.
done for decades, and which as ramped up considerably in
recent years.
But Chris loves the tase of his Chineses masters' dicks.
name calling. Trump had the behavior of a 5-year old, and
so do his worshipers.
We've been fairly lucky that this group hasn't been
bombarded with endless leftwing threads by spammers like
others have. Are you planning on changing its course?
It isn't "leftwing" to point out that the wingnut right has
lost its collective mind.
You make my point with every post.
And will continue to do so.
As you have no point, that is objectively false.
I'm sure the irony of your comment is totally lost on you!
On Monday, August 8, 2022 at 7:27:55 AM UTC-6, Chris L Peterson wrote:
On Mon, 8 Aug 2022 04:04:02 -0700 (PDT), W <wsne...@hotmail.com>
Pelosi has every right to visit Taiwan. CCP does not get to dictate otherwise.
And you have every right to say whatever you want here. It doesn'tMaybe many other things he has written here are in that category,
make you less of a fool for doing so.
Sorry woke lefty.
HAHAHA! Like Biden??! Always saying something that gets "walked back" by the State Department!!!
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