Now I'm on record stating that I'm the very last person
to pee myself over a tooth but, for the benefit of those
who cling to these things like a drowning man to a life
preserver...
So National Geographic absolutely ROTS as a cite but
here's this: https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/article/ancient-teeth-found-germany-dont-rewrite-human-history-science
In the highly likely event you can't even read that one, here's
another URL: https://www.sciencealert.com/ancient-teeth-rewrite-human-history-9-7-million-year-old-mystery
The claim is that the tooth -- teeth, it seems -- compare to
Ardipithecus or Australopithecus, only they're *Way* older
than anything found in Africa... almost 10 million years old.
Speaking of old, this is a 2017 story. Obviously it's not something
that resonated.
But I'm raising it, because although it's too old for any of us
other than the good Doctor, it's interesting.
Op donderdag 26 januari 2023 om 08:41:29 UTC+1 schreef JTEM is so reasonable:
Now I'm on record stating that I'm the very last person
to pee myself over a tooth but, for the benefit of those
who cling to these things like a drowning man to a life
preserver...
So National Geographic absolutely ROTS as a cite but
here's this:
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/article/ancient-teeth-found-germany-dont-rewrite-human-history-science
In the highly likely event you can't even read that one, here's
another URL:
https://www.sciencealert.com/ancient-teeth-rewrite-human-history-9-7-million-year-old-mystery
The claim is that the tooth -- teeth, it seems -- compare to
Ardipithecus or Australopithecus, only they're *Way* older
than anything found in Africa... almost 10 million years old.
Speaking of old, this is a 2017 story. Obviously it's not something
that resonated.
But I'm raising it, because although it's too old for any of us
other than the good Doctor, it's interesting.
A new great ape with startling resemblances to African members of the hominin tribe, excavated from the Mid-Vallesian Dinotheriensande of Eppelsheim. First report (Hominoidea, Miocene, MN 9, Proto-Rhine River,
https://carta.anthropogeny.org/libraries/bibliography/new-great-ape-startling-resemblances-african-members-hominin-tribe-excavatedfinds from Eppelsheim & the Wissberg location (only 18 km away), these are the northern-most occurrences of Miocene primates in Europe. Both teeth, the crowns of an upper left canine & an upper right M1, are exceptionally well preserved, and obviously
A new great ape with startling resemblances to African members of the hominin tribe, excavated from the Mid-Vallesian Dinotheriensande of Eppelsheim. First report (Hominoidea, Miocene, MN 9, Proto-Rhine River, Germany)
In Sept.2016, 2 teeth of an up to now undescribed hominoid have been uncovered from sediments of the Proto-Rhine River ... type locality for the Eppelsheim Fm (i.e. Dinotheriensande) & of 25 mammals of various systematic positions. Together with other
The link and the REAL abstract
Their sedimentological
environment and the accompanying faunal elements point to
an age shortly before the Mid-Vallesian crisis at ca.
9.7 Ma. While the molar shares characters with various
other taxa, the canine reveals intriguingly potential
hominin affinities: its lingual outline is clearly
diamond-shaped; its ratio of lingual height / mesiodistal
length is within the range of Australopithecus afarensis,
Ardipithecus ramidus, Ardipithecus kadabba, and females
of Pan troglodytes. The relative size of the canine,
i. e. the ratio of the buccal heights of C and M1, is
similar to those of e.g. Dryopithecus sp., Ankarapithecus
meteai but also Ardipithecus ramidus. Both, reduced size
and shape of the canine likely indicate that the new
species from Eppelsheim had lost a honing (C/p3) complex
already ca. 9.7 Ma ago. From all information gathered up
to now, the question arises, if the newly discovered
Eppelsheim species may be related to members of the
African hominin tribe.
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