This guy is looking for funding - sort of. Actually, what he is looking
for is to find out if any of us woodworkers would actually use his
invention before he even tries to raise funds to go into production.
Feel free to discuss your thoughts here, but also maybe help the guy
out and give him your opinion directly. He seems like a decent enough
guy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6ImKbpkoVk
On Thu, 28 Oct 2021 12:11:01 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
<teama...@eznet.net> wrote:
This guy is looking for funding - sort of. Actually, what he is looking
for is to find out if any of us woodworkers would actually use his >invention before he even tries to raise funds to go into production.
Feel free to discuss your thoughts here, but also maybe help the guy
out and give him your opinion directly. He seems like a decent enough
guy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6ImKbpkoVkWhat came to mind to me was a simple version -
perhaps it already exists - a standard hex in the recessed
area and a 1-time "cap" that is forced fit so it's flush.
Destroy the cap for removal - it's the cheap part.
I'm imagining it fitting as perfect as the back of a watch.
... and could even have a gasket for water resistance ..
.. no special tools.
John T.
On Thursday, October 28, 2021 at 3:41:12 PM UTC-4, hub...@ccanoemail.ca wrote: >> On Thu, 28 Oct 2021 12:11:01 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
<teama...@eznet.net> wrote:
This guy is looking for funding - sort of. Actually, what he is lookingWhat came to mind to me was a simple version -
for is to find out if any of us woodworkers would actually use his
invention before he even tries to raise funds to go into production.
Feel free to discuss your thoughts here, but also maybe help the guy
out and give him your opinion directly. He seems like a decent enough
guy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6ImKbpkoVk
perhaps it already exists - a standard hex in the recessed
area and a 1-time "cap" that is forced fit so it's flush.
Destroy the cap for removal - it's the cheap part.
I'm imagining it fitting as perfect as the back of a watch.
... and could even have a gasket for water resistance ..
.. no special tools.
John T.
It's not the "flush" that makes it special, it's the machining so that there is no
visible seam between the body of the screw and "cap".
This type of junction:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqVydQ6EdDg
On Thu, 28 Oct 2021 12:45:34 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
<teama...@eznet.net> wrote:
On Thursday, October 28, 2021 at 3:41:12 PM UTC-4, hub...@ccanoemail.ca wrote:
On Thu, 28 Oct 2021 12:11:01 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
<teama...@eznet.net> wrote:
This guy is looking for funding - sort of. Actually, what he is looking >> >for is to find out if any of us woodworkers would actually use hisWhat came to mind to me was a simple version -
invention before he even tries to raise funds to go into production.
Feel free to discuss your thoughts here, but also maybe help the guy
out and give him your opinion directly. He seems like a decent enough
guy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6ImKbpkoVk
perhaps it already exists - a standard hex in the recessed
area and a 1-time "cap" that is forced fit so it's flush.
Destroy the cap for removal - it's the cheap part.
I'm imagining it fitting as perfect as the back of a watch.
... and could even have a gasket for water resistance ..
.. no special tools.
John T.
It's not the "flush" that makes it special, it's the machining so that there is no
visible seam between the body of the screw and "cap".
This type of junction:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqVydQ6EdDg... even after ketchup spills are rubbed in ? :-)
John T.
This guy is looking for funding - sort of. Actually, what he is looking
for is to find out if any of us woodworkers would actually use his
invention before he even tries to raise funds to go into production.
Feel free to discuss your thoughts here, but also maybe help the guy
out and give him your opinion directly. He seems like a decent enough
guy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6ImKbpkoVk
On Thu, 28 Oct 2021 12:11:01 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
<teamarrows@eznet.net> wrote:
This guy is looking for funding - sort of. Actually, what he is looking
for is to find out if any of us woodworkers would actually use his >>invention before he even tries to raise funds to go into production.
Feel free to discuss your thoughts here, but also maybe help the guy
out and give him your opinion directly. He seems like a decent enough
guy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6ImKbpkoVk
Very slick. He mentioned a hidden drawer as an application. Why not a
latch with this feature, rather than a screw? Perhaps a dummy for
balance. I'd buy it in (very) low quantities.
On Thu, 28 Oct 2021 18:06:48 -0400, krw@notreal.com wrote:
On Thu, 28 Oct 2021 12:11:01 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
<teamarrows@eznet.net> wrote:
This guy is looking for funding - sort of. Actually, what he is looking >>>for is to find out if any of us woodworkers would actually use his >>>invention before he even tries to raise funds to go into production.
Feel free to discuss your thoughts here, but also maybe help the guy
out and give him your opinion directly. He seems like a decent enough >>>guy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6ImKbpkoVk
Very slick. He mentioned a hidden drawer as an application. Why not a >>latch with this feature, rather than a screw? Perhaps a dummy for
balance. I'd buy it in (very) low quantities.
https://www.leevalley.com/en-ca/shop/hardware/catches/magnetic/40353-magnetic-secret-latch
John T.
This guy is looking for funding - sort of.
On Thursday, October 28, 2021 at 4:00:10 PM UTC-4, hub...@ccanoemail.ca wrote:
On Thu, 28 Oct 2021 12:45:34 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
<teama...@eznet.net> wrote:
On Thursday, October 28, 2021 at 3:41:12 PM UTC-4, hub...@ccanoemail.ca wrote:... even after ketchup spills are rubbed in ? :-)
On Thu, 28 Oct 2021 12:11:01 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
<teama...@eznet.net> wrote:
This guy is looking for funding - sort of. Actually, what he is looking >>>>> for is to find out if any of us woodworkers would actually use hisWhat came to mind to me was a simple version -
invention before he even tries to raise funds to go into production. >>>>>
Feel free to discuss your thoughts here, but also maybe help the guy >>>>> out and give him your opinion directly. He seems like a decent enough >>>>> guy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6ImKbpkoVk
perhaps it already exists - a standard hex in the recessed
area and a 1-time "cap" that is forced fit so it's flush.
Destroy the cap for removal - it's the cheap part.
I'm imagining it fitting as perfect as the back of a watch.
... and could even have a gasket for water resistance ..
.. no special tools.
John T.
It's not the "flush" that makes it special, it's the machining so that there is no
visible seam between the body of the screw and "cap".
This type of junction:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqVydQ6EdDg
John T.
Now that's a comment worth posting on his youtube page. He may be able
to address that issue.
On Thu, 28 Oct 2021 12:11:01 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
<teamarrows@eznet.net> wrote:
This guy is looking for funding - sort of. Actually, what he is looking
for is to find out if any of us woodworkers would actually use his
invention before he even tries to raise funds to go into production.
Feel free to discuss your thoughts here, but also maybe help the guy
out and give him your opinion directly. He seems like a decent enough
guy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6ImKbpkoVk
What came to mind to me was a simple version -
perhaps it already exists - a standard hex in the recessed
area and a 1-time "cap" that is forced fit so it's flush.
Destroy the cap for removal - it's the cheap part.
I'm imagining it fitting as perfect as the back of a watch.
... and could even have a gasket for water resistance ..
.. no special tools.
John T.
On 10/28/2021 2:42 PM, hubops@ccanoemail.ca wrote:
On Thu, 28 Oct 2021 12:11:01 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
<teamarrows@eznet.net> wrote:
This guy is looking for funding - sort of. Actually, what he is looking
for is to find out if any of us woodworkers would actually use his
invention before he even tries to raise funds to go into production.
Feel free to discuss your thoughts here, but also maybe help the guy
out and give him your opinion directly. He seems like a decent enough
guy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6ImKbpkoVk
What came to mind to me was a simple version -
perhaps it already exists - a standard hex in the recessed
area and a 1-time "cap" that is forced fit so it's flush.
Destroy the cap for removal - it's the cheap part.
I'm imagining it fitting as perfect as the back of a watch.
... and could even have a gasket for water resistance ..
.. no special tools.
John T.
That is a real cool idea but not for the aplications he demonstrates.
It would be much less expensive to us a normal sized bolt in a recessed
hole and covered by a disposable/replaceable press in bezel/cover.
His bolts would also need a special nut.
On Thursday, October 28, 2021 at 8:37:44 PM UTC-5, k...@notreal.com wrote:design a piece of furniture around this screw/function? Nope, not at all.
This guy is looking for funding - sort of.
Well, I think part of his marketing strategy, in the video, has a few problems. He touts the screw to have a single function, for attaching something together in a hidden fashion. That's appealing to some extent. He later asks, would you
It may be a clever or neat idea, but to me it's a novelty, of sorts. I can't envision its wide spread use. I can't see an industry going all out to produce large quantities of it, at least for the general "construction" public. The aerospaceor similar industry may use it or some element of the idea, i.e., a specific and limited use/market, but I think that may already be the case to some extent. A large scale market for this application would likely have to be something similar to the
As to woodworking, I can't see it being widely used in the furniture making industry. Some individuals may try it, but I suspect just randomly used.... initially moderate sales, then interest fades? I wouldn't invest in something I wouldn't useand for my style of woodwork, I wouldn't want any hardware to show. It's not a feature that appeals to me for my consideration to use in/on my projects nor to be important as a part or design feature on something I would purchase. Even if I were
As to furniture as a whole, I think a "new" particular style of furniture may need to be created, similarly as chrome furniture/appliances was introduced, for it to be widely used, IF one is to design furniture around this single screw concept.
It's a good first marketing step in asking our opinions. He needs to gather the feedback, then go ask the professionals (Shark Tank- like) before diving into it further.
Sonny
This guy is looking for funding - sort of. Actually, what he is looking
for is to find out if any of us woodworkers would actually use his
invention before he even tries to raise funds to go into production.
Feel free to discuss your thoughts here, but also maybe help the guy
out and give him your opinion directly. He seems like a decent enough
guy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6ImKbpkoVk
On Fri, 29 Oct 2021 07:11:50 -0700 (PDT), Sonny <cedarsonny@aol.com>design a piece of furniture around this screw/function? Nope, not at all.
wrote:
On Thursday, October 28, 2021 at 8:37:44 PM UTC-5, k...@notreal.com wrote:
This guy is looking for funding - sort of.
Well, I think part of his marketing strategy, in the video, has a few problems. He touts the screw to have a single function, for attaching something together in a hidden fashion. That's appealing to some extent. He later asks, would you
or similar industry may use it or some element of the idea, i.e., a specific and limited use/market, but I think that may already be the case to some extent. A large scale market for this application would likely have to be something similar to the
It may be a clever or neat idea, but to me it's a novelty, of sorts. I can't envision its wide spread use. I can't see an industry going all out to produce large quantities of it, at least for the general "construction" public. The aerospace
When I was at Hamilton-Standard that thing would have been great on
the C-130 Afterbody. Especially if it could have been made in the
form of a captivated screw.
On Thursday, October 28, 2021 at 8:37:44 PM UTC-5, k...@notreal.com wrote:design a piece of furniture around this screw/function? Nope, not at all.
This guy is looking for funding - sort of.
Well, I think part of his marketing strategy, in the video, has a few problems. He touts the screw to have a single function, for attaching something together in a hidden fashion. That's appealing to some extent. He later asks, would you
It may be a clever or neat idea, but to me it's a novelty, of sorts. I can't envision its wide spread use. I can't see an industry going all out to produce large quantities of it, at least for the general "construction" public. The aerospaceor similar industry may use it or some element of the idea, i.e., a specific and limited use/market, but I think that may already be the case to some extent. A large scale market for this application would likely have to be something similar to the
As to woodworking, I can't see it being widely used in the furniture making industry. Some individuals may try it, but I suspect just randomly used.... initially moderate sales, then interest fades? I wouldn't invest in something I wouldn't useand for my style of woodwork, I wouldn't want any hardware to show. It's not a feature that appeals to me for my consideration to use in/on my projects nor to be important as a part or design feature on something I would purchase. Even if I were
As to furniture as a whole, I think a "new" particular style of furniture may need to be created, similarly as chrome furniture/appliances was introduced, for it to be widely used, IF one is to design furniture around this single screw concept.
It's a good first marketing step in asking our opinions. He needs to gather the feedback, then go ask the professionals (Shark Tank- like) before diving into it further.
Sonny
On Fri, 29 Oct 2021 10:20:22 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
wrote:
On 10/28/2021 2:42 PM, hubops@ccanoemail.ca wrote:
On Thu, 28 Oct 2021 12:11:01 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
<teamarrows@eznet.net> wrote:
This guy is looking for funding - sort of. Actually, what he is looking >>>> for is to find out if any of us woodworkers would actually use his
invention before he even tries to raise funds to go into production.
Feel free to discuss your thoughts here, but also maybe help the guy
out and give him your opinion directly. He seems like a decent enough
guy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6ImKbpkoVk
What came to mind to me was a simple version -
perhaps it already exists - a standard hex in the recessed
area and a 1-time "cap" that is forced fit so it's flush.
Destroy the cap for removal - it's the cheap part.
I'm imagining it fitting as perfect as the back of a watch.
... and could even have a gasket for water resistance ..
.. no special tools.
John T.
That is a real cool idea but not for the aplications he demonstrates.
It would be much less expensive to us a normal sized bolt in a recessed >>hole and covered by a disposable/replaceable press in bezel/cover.
His bolts would also need a special nut.
It seems a bit too fussy to live in the rough and tumble of real life.
The fit between screw head body and spring-loaded filler is very
close. I wonder how well that screw will work after the furniture
piece is varnished or even waxed.'
And, the screw better be made of stainless steel.
On Fri, 29 Oct 2021 12:00:20 -0400, Joe Gwinn <joegwinn@comcast.net>
wrote:
On Fri, 29 Oct 2021 10:20:22 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
wrote:
On 10/28/2021 2:42 PM, hubops@ccanoemail.ca wrote:
On Thu, 28 Oct 2021 12:11:01 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
<teamarrows@eznet.net> wrote:
This guy is looking for funding - sort of. Actually, what he is looking >>>>> for is to find out if any of us woodworkers would actually use his
invention before he even tries to raise funds to go into production. >>>>>
Feel free to discuss your thoughts here, but also maybe help the guy >>>>> out and give him your opinion directly. He seems like a decent enough >>>>> guy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6ImKbpkoVk
What came to mind to me was a simple version -
perhaps it already exists - a standard hex in the recessed
area and a 1-time "cap" that is forced fit so it's flush.
Destroy the cap for removal - it's the cheap part.
I'm imagining it fitting as perfect as the back of a watch.
... and could even have a gasket for water resistance ..
.. no special tools.
John T.
That is a real cool idea but not for the aplications he demonstrates.
It would be much less expensive to us a normal sized bolt in a recessed
hole and covered by a disposable/replaceable press in bezel/cover.
His bolts would also need a special nut.
Why? It could be standard 1/4-20 'T' nut, or whatever.
It seems a bit too fussy to live in the rough and tumble of real life.
The fit between screw head body and spring-loaded filler is very
close. I wonder how well that screw will work after the furniture
piece is varnished or even waxed.'
Remove the bolt before finishing the piece. It's a good idea anyway.
Don't you remove drawers/doors from furniture before finishing?
And, the screw better be made of stainless steel.
Just for the looks, though people use brass knobs too.
On 10/29/2021 9:18 PM, krw@notreal.com wrote:
On Fri, 29 Oct 2021 12:00:20 -0400, Joe Gwinn <joegwinn@comcast.net>
wrote:
On Fri, 29 Oct 2021 10:20:22 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
wrote:
On 10/28/2021 2:42 PM, hubops@ccanoemail.ca wrote:
On Thu, 28 Oct 2021 12:11:01 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
<teamarrows@eznet.net> wrote:
This guy is looking for funding - sort of. Actually, what he is looking >>>>>> for is to find out if any of us woodworkers would actually use his >>>>>> invention before he even tries to raise funds to go into production. >>>>>>
Feel free to discuss your thoughts here, but also maybe help the guy >>>>>> out and give him your opinion directly. He seems like a decent enough >>>>>> guy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6ImKbpkoVk
What came to mind to me was a simple version -
perhaps it already exists - a standard hex in the recessed
area and a 1-time "cap" that is forced fit so it's flush.
Destroy the cap for removal - it's the cheap part.
I'm imagining it fitting as perfect as the back of a watch.
... and could even have a gasket for water resistance ..
.. no special tools.
John T.
That is a real cool idea but not for the aplications he demonstrates.
It would be much less expensive to us a normal sized bolt in a recessed >>>> hole and covered by a disposable/replaceable press in bezel/cover.
His bolts would also need a special nut.
Why? It could be standard 1/4-20 'T' nut, or whatever.
In that case probably so but the one he was demonstrating looked to have >threads in the 1" diameter range.
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