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  • Re: Polyshades on Pine

    From Bill@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 13 23:30:04 2025
    I have unfinished pine I was thinking of using Polyshades on and I wasn't sure if I had to "treat" it first with somthing?
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  • From Markem618@21:1/5 to cefea62cbd0885f2178684ae9396f147@ex on Fri Mar 14 01:57:38 2025
    On Thu, 13 Mar 2025 23:30:04 +0000, Bill <cefea62cbd0885f2178684ae9396f147@example.com> wrote:

    what conditioner do I use first on (unfinished pine) before applying Polyshades (i have Polyshades walnut) ??

    From a review of Polyshades

    Application of this product takes a lot of time
    Application of this product takes a lot of time and patience. It works
    okay for what it is, but what it is � is a dinosaur. This product is
    little different than what I used in 1963 when I was 15 years old.
    For my current 2024 project, I had to
    1. Apply Minwax conditioner to the wood first.
    2. Clean the brush using mineral spirits
    3. Apply a first coat of Polyshades
    4. Clean the brush with mineral spirits
    5. Discover that the actual dry time at 65 degrees and 50% relative
    was not the advertised Six hours but closer to 24 hours. I could never
    have scuff sanded the finish at six hours; it was still tacky.
    6. Discover that the coatings had turned white for some reason � and
    I�m not going to blame the wood, so I had to sand off the white
    discoloration.
    7. Recoat the work piece.
    8. Clean the brush with mineral spirits.
    9. Wait about 18 more hours.
    10. Scuff sand
    11. Final coat
    12. Clean the brush with mineral spirits.
    It worked okay, but do yourselves a favor: spend the extra money on
    Varathane One-step water based stain and poly. It really does get your
    project done 5X faster.

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  • From Markem618@21:1/5 to All on Sat Mar 29 13:48:44 2025
    On Sat, 29 Mar 2025 12:42:30 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
    wrote:

    On 3/14/2025 1:57 AM, Markem618 wrote:
    On Thu, 13 Mar 2025 23:30:04 +0000, Bill
    <cefea62cbd0885f2178684ae9396f147@example.com> wrote:

    what conditioner do I use first on (unfinished pine) before applying Polyshades (i have Polyshades walnut) ??

    From a review of Polyshades

    Application of this product takes a lot of time
    Application of this product takes a lot of time and patience. It works
    okay for what it is, but what it is � is a dinosaur. This product is
    little different than what I used in 1963 when I was 15 years old.
    For my current 2024 project, I had to
    1. Apply Minwax conditioner to the wood first.
    2. Clean the brush using mineral spirits
    3. Apply a first coat of Polyshades
    4. Clean the brush with mineral spirits
    5. Discover that the actual dry time at 65 degrees and 50% relative
    was not the advertised Six hours but closer to 24 hours. I could never
    have scuff sanded the finish at six hours; it was still tacky.
    6. Discover that the coatings had turned white for some reason � and
    I�m not going to blame the wood, so I had to sand off the white
    discoloration.
    7. Recoat the work piece.
    8. Clean the brush with mineral spirits.
    9. Wait about 18 more hours.
    10. Scuff sand
    11. Final coat
    12. Clean the brush with mineral spirits.
    It worked okay, but do yourselves a favor: spend the extra money on
    Varathane One-step water based stain and poly. It really does get your
    project done 5X faster.


    Or paint it.

    I like the Varathane option.

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  • From Leon@21:1/5 to All on Sat Mar 29 12:42:30 2025
    On 3/14/2025 1:57 AM, Markem618 wrote:
    On Thu, 13 Mar 2025 23:30:04 +0000, Bill <cefea62cbd0885f2178684ae9396f147@example.com> wrote:

    what conditioner do I use first on (unfinished pine) before applying Polyshades (i have Polyshades walnut) ??

    From a review of Polyshades

    Application of this product takes a lot of time
    Application of this product takes a lot of time and patience. It works
    okay for what it is, but what it is – is a dinosaur. This product is
    little different than what I used in 1963 when I was 15 years old.
    For my current 2024 project, I had to
    1. Apply Minwax conditioner to the wood first.
    2. Clean the brush using mineral spirits
    3. Apply a first coat of Polyshades
    4. Clean the brush with mineral spirits
    5. Discover that the actual dry time at 65 degrees and 50% relative
    was not the advertised Six hours but closer to 24 hours. I could never
    have scuff sanded the finish at six hours; it was still tacky.
    6. Discover that the coatings had turned white for some reason – and
    I’m not going to blame the wood, so I had to sand off the white discoloration.
    7. Recoat the work piece.
    8. Clean the brush with mineral spirits.
    9. Wait about 18 more hours.
    10. Scuff sand
    11. Final coat
    12. Clean the brush with mineral spirits.
    It worked okay, but do yourselves a favor: spend the extra money on
    Varathane One-step water based stain and poly. It really does get your project done 5X faster.


    Or paint it.

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