• OT: Ditra

    From Michael@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jun 25 14:57:09 2023
    A question about Ditra: I hesitate using it because it does not provide the stiffness of cement board that I would think would prevent failure. But everyone says it's wonderful. Should I not be worried about this?

    Thanks!

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  • From Markem618@21:1/5 to michaeldwilson2@gmail.com on Sun Jun 25 22:37:52 2023
    On Sun, 25 Jun 2023 14:57:09 -0700 (PDT), Michael
    <michaeldwilson2@gmail.com> wrote:

    A question about Ditra: I hesitate using it because it does not provide the stiffness of cement board that I would think would prevent failure. But everyone says it's wonderful. Should I not be worried about this?

    Thanks!

    Installed right it give better performance than cement board alone, in
    a shower or wet floor area. Most Ditra installations that I have seen
    are over cement board though.

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  • From Michael@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jun 26 07:02:14 2023
    On Sunday, June 25, 2023 at 10:38:06 PM UTC-5, Markem618 wrote:
    On Sun, 25 Jun 2023 14:57:09 -0700 (PDT), Michael
    <michael...@gmail.com> wrote:

    A question about Ditra: I hesitate using it because it does not provide the stiffness of cement board that I would think would prevent failure. But everyone says it's wonderful. Should I not be worried about this?

    Thanks!
    Installed right it give better performance than cement board alone, in
    a shower or wet floor area. Most Ditra installations that I have seen
    are over cement board though.

    Ok, thanks! The instructional videos I have seen has the Ditra installed on the subfloor. I'll keep researching.

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  • From Clare Snyder@21:1/5 to michaeldwilson2@gmail.com on Mon Jun 26 10:32:43 2023
    On Mon, 26 Jun 2023 07:02:14 -0700 (PDT), Michael
    <michaeldwilson2@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sunday, June 25, 2023 at 10:38:06?PM UTC-5, Markem618 wrote:
    On Sun, 25 Jun 2023 14:57:09 -0700 (PDT), Michael
    <michael...@gmail.com> wrote:

    A question about Ditra: I hesitate using it because it does not provide the stiffness of cement board that I would think would prevent failure. But everyone says it's wonderful. Should I not be worried about this?

    Thanks!
    Installed right it give better performance than cement board alone, in
    a shower or wet floor area. Most Ditra installations that I have seen
    are over cement board though.

    Ok, thanks! The instructional videos I have seen has the Ditra installed on the subfloor. I'll keep researching.
    I have used ditra for tile flooring over plywood subfloor and it is
    GREAT. The purpose of Ditra is to uncouple the tile from the
    substrate. This allows the subfloor to expand and contract at a
    different rate than the tile from heat and humidity without cracking
    the tile or the grout line. Concrete backer board can NOT do this
    effectively - and nor can a mud bed.

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  • From Michael@21:1/5 to Clare Snyder on Mon Jun 26 10:11:01 2023
    On Monday, June 26, 2023 at 9:32:49 AM UTC-5, Clare Snyder wrote:
    On Mon, 26 Jun 2023 07:02:14 -0700 (PDT), Michael
    <michael...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Sunday, June 25, 2023 at 10:38:06?PM UTC-5, Markem618 wrote:
    On Sun, 25 Jun 2023 14:57:09 -0700 (PDT), Michael
    <michael...@gmail.com> wrote:

    A question about Ditra: I hesitate using it because it does not provide the stiffness of cement board that I would think would prevent failure. But everyone says it's wonderful. Should I not be worried about this?

    Thanks!
    Installed right it give better performance than cement board alone, in
    a shower or wet floor area. Most Ditra installations that I have seen
    are over cement board though.

    Ok, thanks! The instructional videos I have seen has the Ditra installed on the subfloor. I'll keep researching.
    I have used ditra for tile flooring over plywood subfloor and it is
    GREAT. The purpose of Ditra is to uncouple the tile from the
    substrate. This allows the subfloor to expand and contract at a
    different rate than the tile from heat and humidity without cracking
    the tile or the grout line. Concrete backer board can NOT do this effectively - and nor can a mud bed.

    Thanks! I guess I'm wondering about thicknesses. I learned that tile should be installed plywood + cement board to a thickness of 1 1/4 - 1 1/2. But 3/4 plywood + 1/8 Ditra + thinset is less than on inch. But that's enough to prevent floor flexing?

    Appreciated!

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  • From Clare Snyder@21:1/5 to michaeldwilson2@gmail.com on Mon Jun 26 22:06:36 2023
    On Mon, 26 Jun 2023 10:11:01 -0700 (PDT), Michael
    <michaeldwilson2@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Monday, June 26, 2023 at 9:32:49?AM UTC-5, Clare Snyder wrote:
    On Mon, 26 Jun 2023 07:02:14 -0700 (PDT), Michael
    <michael...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Sunday, June 25, 2023 at 10:38:06?PM UTC-5, Markem618 wrote:
    On Sun, 25 Jun 2023 14:57:09 -0700 (PDT), Michael
    <michael...@gmail.com> wrote:

    A question about Ditra: I hesitate using it because it does not provide the stiffness of cement board that I would think would prevent failure. But everyone says it's wonderful. Should I not be worried about this?

    Thanks!
    Installed right it give better performance than cement board alone, in
    a shower or wet floor area. Most Ditra installations that I have seen
    are over cement board though.

    Ok, thanks! The instructional videos I have seen has the Ditra installed on the subfloor. I'll keep researching.
    I have used ditra for tile flooring over plywood subfloor and it is
    GREAT. The purpose of Ditra is to uncouple the tile from the
    substrate. This allows the subfloor to expand and contract at a
    different rate than the tile from heat and humidity without cracking
    the tile or the grout line. Concrete backer board can NOT do this
    effectively - and nor can a mud bed.

    Thanks! I guess I'm wondering about thicknesses. I learned that tile should be installed plywood + cement board to a thickness of 1 1/4 - 1 1/2. But 3/4 plywood + 1/8 Ditra + thinset is less than on inch. But that's enough to prevent floor flexing?

    Appreciated!
    3/4 inch fir ply on 16 inch centers is fine. Mine is 5/8" but the span
    is only 6 feet. I even use ditra on concrete to decouple the tile from
    any cracks that form in the concrete base.

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  • From Michael@21:1/5 to Clare Snyder on Mon Jun 26 19:31:17 2023
    On Monday, June 26, 2023 at 9:06:41 PM UTC-5, Clare Snyder wrote:
    On Mon, 26 Jun 2023 10:11:01 -0700 (PDT), Michael
    <michael...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Monday, June 26, 2023 at 9:32:49?AM UTC-5, Clare Snyder wrote:
    On Mon, 26 Jun 2023 07:02:14 -0700 (PDT), Michael
    <michael...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Sunday, June 25, 2023 at 10:38:06?PM UTC-5, Markem618 wrote:
    On Sun, 25 Jun 2023 14:57:09 -0700 (PDT), Michael
    <michael...@gmail.com> wrote:

    A question about Ditra: I hesitate using it because it does not provide the stiffness of cement board that I would think would prevent failure. But everyone says it's wonderful. Should I not be worried about this?

    Thanks!
    Installed right it give better performance than cement board alone, in >> >> a shower or wet floor area. Most Ditra installations that I have seen >> >> are over cement board though.

    Ok, thanks! The instructional videos I have seen has the Ditra installed on the subfloor. I'll keep researching.
    I have used ditra for tile flooring over plywood subfloor and it is
    GREAT. The purpose of Ditra is to uncouple the tile from the
    substrate. This allows the subfloor to expand and contract at a
    different rate than the tile from heat and humidity without cracking
    the tile or the grout line. Concrete backer board can NOT do this
    effectively - and nor can a mud bed.

    Thanks! I guess I'm wondering about thicknesses. I learned that tile should be installed plywood + cement board to a thickness of 1 1/4 - 1 1/2. But 3/4 plywood + 1/8 Ditra + thinset is less than on inch. But that's enough to prevent floor flexing?

    Appreciated!
    3/4 inch fir ply on 16 inch centers is fine. Mine is 5/8" but the span
    is only 6 feet. I even use ditra on concrete to decouple the tile from
    any cracks that form in the concrete base.

    Thanks! Much appreciated!

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