• Another Small Job

    From Leon@21:1/5 to All on Mon Apr 18 12:42:10 2022
    A good customer asked me to build a cherry cover. This is really quite
    simple and will be used to cover her "hand-stitched" embroidery and to
    keep her cats off of her work.

    Cherry hardwood and plywood. I used the Shaper Origin to cut the box
    joints and I used Rubio Monocoat with hardener for the finish. The
    color is clear/Pure and is a single coat.

    The finish cures in 24 hours but is pretty dry 24 hours later in humid
    garage.

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/52000094258/in/datetaken/

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/52000289919/in/datetaken/



    I also have a customer wanting a sewing machine cabinet similar to the
    one I built for my wife a few years ago. But she wants smaller
    somewhere around 4' long and or half the length that I built for my wife.

    And then our kitchen remodel!

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  • From DerbyDad03@21:1/5 to Leon on Mon Apr 18 17:13:36 2022
    On Monday, April 18, 2022 at 1:42:19 PM UTC-4, Leon wrote:
    A good customer asked me to build a cherry cover. This is really quite
    simple and will be used to cover her "hand-stitched" embroidery and to
    keep her cats off of her work.

    Cherry hardwood and plywood. I used the Shaper Origin to cut the box
    joints and I used Rubio Monocoat with hardener for the finish. The
    color is clear/Pure and is a single coat.

    The finish cures in 24 hours but is pretty dry 24 hours later in humid garage.

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/52000094258/in/datetaken/

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/52000289919/in/datetaken/



    I also have a customer wanting a sewing machine cabinet similar to the
    one I built for my wife a few years ago. But she wants smaller
    somewhere around 4' long and or half the length that I built for my wife.

    And then our kitchen remodel!

    I'm sure it was fun to have a small quick job. Almost instant gratification. ;-)

    I'm curious about the Rubio Monocoat, especially the "with hardener" part.

    In my thread about refinishing the coffee table, you mentioned varnish, specifically General Finishes Arm-R-Seal. Two or more coats, depending
    on how I applied it.

    So teach me something: Why wouldn't a single coat of Rubio Monocoat
    with hardener be a good choice for a coffee table? Is it not as waterproof,
    not as durable, etc? It sounds like at least it's cat proof. ;-)

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  • From Leon@21:1/5 to All on Mon Apr 18 20:15:06 2022
    On 4/18/2022 7:13 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
    On Monday, April 18, 2022 at 1:42:19 PM UTC-4, Leon wrote:
    A good customer asked me to build a cherry cover. This is really quite
    simple and will be used to cover her "hand-stitched" embroidery and to
    keep her cats off of her work.

    Cherry hardwood and plywood. I used the Shaper Origin to cut the box
    joints and I used Rubio Monocoat with hardener for the finish. The
    color is clear/Pure and is a single coat.

    The finish cures in 24 hours but is pretty dry 24 hours later in humid
    garage.

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/52000094258/in/datetaken/

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/52000289919/in/datetaken/



    I also have a customer wanting a sewing machine cabinet similar to the
    one I built for my wife a few years ago. But she wants smaller
    somewhere around 4' long and or half the length that I built for my wife.

    And then our kitchen remodel!

    I'm sure it was fun to have a small quick job. Almost instant gratification. ;-)

    Yes! Light weight and I had all of the materials on hand.



    I'm curious about the Rubio Monocoat, especially the "with hardener" part.

    In my thread about refinishing the coffee table, you mentioned varnish, specifically General Finishes Arm-R-Seal. Two or more coats, depending
    on how I applied it.

    So teach me something: Why wouldn't a single coat of Rubio Monocoat
    with hardener be a good choice for a coffee table? Is it not as waterproof, not as durable, etc? It sounds like at least it's cat proof. ;-)

    OK so, I am/was assuming the table will be protected from the weather.
    Indoor use.

    With that in mind, Arm-R-seal is about $30 per quart and will lay down a relatively durable finish and if you are only doing the top you should
    have a lot left over, you might consider going a pint. But usually for
    not too much more the quart is less expensive per oz. Arm-R-Seal leaves
    a hard finish. It is a good product. If the surface will see a lot of
    wear it will hold up the best long term.

    Rubio Monocoat is expensive .350 ml IIRC will cost you $50+. That is
    the total make up of the finish and the hardener.
    BUT Robio goes a very looooong way. For small jobs it is advised to
    use 2 syringes for measuring.
    I mixed about 32 ml to do all sides of this project including bottoms
    and edges inside and out, and I has mixed too much. Rubio can be poured
    onto the surface and use a plastic scraper to squeegee it all over the
    surface. I actually used my stir stick to drizzle small amounts onto the surfaces for more control against applying too much in one area.
    Remember a little goes a very long way. Then about 10~15 minutes later
    you buff the excess and entire surface with a WHITE sctoch brite style
    pad. You can also use that type pad to initially spread the product.
    After the buff let it sit over night. The finish will be a matte
    finish, not quite a satin finish, so little to no sheen.

    I bought the product and the hardener as a kit. 250 ml of the finish
    and 100 ml of the hardener. I have finished this project and the 18
    boxes I built for Christmas with this product. I probably have 80%
    remaining.

    Rubio is about as fool proof as it gets and the manufacturer does not
    recommend a second coat. Just remember to buff out the wet shiny spots
    about 10~15 minutes after application. You want the surface to look dryish.

    Arm_R-Seal will be difficult to repair. You might have to completely
    sand down and reapply.

    IIRC Rubio Monocoat was developed in the 60's in Spain to be a wood
    floor finish. So it is relative durable. It is kind of a recent thing,
    at least for me, that the product has been used for regular woodworking.
    It is becoming readily available. My local Woodcraft carries it.
    There are countless places to buy it including Amazon. And they offer
    the finish with out the hardener in small $10 bottles. AND it comes in
    50 or so colors. I have only used the clear/Pure color.
    Rubio is EASY to repair. It is a hard wax finish. If you get a scratch
    you simply sand it out and reapply the product. No lap marks and it is
    said that there is no trace of where the old finish and the newly
    repaired section is at.


    Watch these video's. Pro's are using this stuff too.

    Woodwhisperer

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFcsC7C1vmE

    Blacktail Studio

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrF-UWvcB6I


    Rubio Monocoat USA

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ictKhF92-pY

    Rubio on the floor

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eACW4U2-GCY

    Working with a prefinish color and a contrasting Monocoat finish.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91HXR6psH5A

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  • From DerbyDad03@21:1/5 to Leon on Mon Apr 18 18:43:31 2022
    On Monday, April 18, 2022 at 9:15:14 PM UTC-4, Leon wrote:
    On 4/18/2022 7:13 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
    On Monday, April 18, 2022 at 1:42:19 PM UTC-4, Leon wrote:
    A good customer asked me to build a cherry cover. This is really quite
    simple and will be used to cover her "hand-stitched" embroidery and to
    keep her cats off of her work.

    Cherry hardwood and plywood. I used the Shaper Origin to cut the box
    joints and I used Rubio Monocoat with hardener for the finish. The
    color is clear/Pure and is a single coat.

    The finish cures in 24 hours but is pretty dry 24 hours later in humid
    garage.

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/52000094258/in/datetaken/

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/52000289919/in/datetaken/



    I also have a customer wanting a sewing machine cabinet similar to the
    one I built for my wife a few years ago. But she wants smaller
    somewhere around 4' long and or half the length that I built for my wife. >>
    And then our kitchen remodel!

    I'm sure it was fun to have a small quick job. Almost instant gratification. ;-)
    Yes! Light weight and I had all of the materials on hand.

    I'm curious about the Rubio Monocoat, especially the "with hardener" part.

    In my thread about refinishing the coffee table, you mentioned varnish, specifically General Finishes Arm-R-Seal. Two or more coats, depending
    on how I applied it.

    So teach me something: Why wouldn't a single coat of Rubio Monocoat
    with hardener be a good choice for a coffee table? Is it not as waterproof, not as durable, etc? It sounds like at least it's cat proof. ;-)
    OK so, I am/was assuming the table will be protected from the weather.
    Indoor use.

    With that in mind, Arm-R-seal is about $30 per quart and will lay down a relatively durable finish and if you are only doing the top you should
    have a lot left over, you might consider going a pint. But usually for
    not too much more the quart is less expensive per oz. Arm-R-Seal leaves
    a hard finish. It is a good product. If the surface will see a lot of
    wear it will hold up the best long term.

    Rubio Monocoat is expensive .350 ml IIRC will cost you $50+. That is
    the total make up of the finish and the hardener.
    BUT Robio goes a very looooong way. For small jobs it is advised to
    use 2 syringes for measuring.
    I mixed about 32 ml to do all sides of this project including bottoms

    I'm glad I checked the price on Amazon cuz you had me quivering
    at your numbers. I quote:

    "Rubio Monocoat is expensive .350 ml IIRC will cost you $50+"
    "I mixed about 32 ml to do all sides"

    That's over $4500!

    That one misplaced "space" in your sentence sure makes a difference.
    Typos can be a bitch. ;-)

    and edges inside and out, and I has mixed too much. Rubio can be poured
    onto the surface and use a plastic scraper to squeegee it all over the surface. I actually used my stir stick to drizzle small amounts onto the surfaces for more control against applying too much in one area.
    Remember a little goes a very long way. Then about 10~15 minutes later
    you buff the excess and entire surface with a WHITE sctoch brite style
    pad. You can also use that type pad to initially spread the product.
    After the buff let it sit over night. The finish will be a matte
    finish, not quite a satin finish, so little to no sheen.

    I bought the product and the hardener as a kit. 250 ml of the finish
    and 100 ml of the hardener. I have finished this project and the 18
    boxes I built for Christmas with this product. I probably have 80%
    remaining.

    Rubio is about as fool proof as it gets and the manufacturer does not recommend a second coat. Just remember to buff out the wet shiny spots
    about 10~15 minutes after application. You want the surface to look dryish.

    Arm_R-Seal will be difficult to repair. You might have to completely
    sand down and reapply.

    IIRC Rubio Monocoat was developed in the 60's in Spain to be a wood
    floor finish. So it is relative durable. It is kind of a recent thing,
    at least for me, that the product has been used for regular woodworking.
    It is becoming readily available. My local Woodcraft carries it.
    There are countless places to buy it including Amazon. And they offer
    the finish with out the hardener in small $10 bottles. AND it comes in
    50 or so colors. I have only used the clear/Pure color.
    Rubio is EASY to repair. It is a hard wax finish. If you get a scratch
    you simply sand it out and reapply the product. No lap marks and it is
    said that there is no trace of where the old finish and the newly
    repaired section is at.


    Watch these video's. Pro's are using this stuff too.

    I will watch them all. Thanks!


    Woodwhisperer

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFcsC7C1vmE

    Blacktail Studio

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrF-UWvcB6I


    Rubio Monocoat USA

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ictKhF92-pY

    Rubio on the floor

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eACW4U2-GCY

    Working with a prefinish color and a contrasting Monocoat finish.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91HXR6psH5A

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  • From Leon@21:1/5 to All on Tue Apr 19 10:33:35 2022
    On 4/18/2022 8:43 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
    On Monday, April 18, 2022 at 9:15:14 PM UTC-4, Leon wrote:
    On 4/18/2022 7:13 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
    On Monday, April 18, 2022 at 1:42:19 PM UTC-4, Leon wrote:
    A good customer asked me to build a cherry cover. This is really quite >>>> simple and will be used to cover her "hand-stitched" embroidery and to >>>> keep her cats off of her work.

    Cherry hardwood and plywood. I used the Shaper Origin to cut the box
    joints and I used Rubio Monocoat with hardener for the finish. The
    color is clear/Pure and is a single coat.

    The finish cures in 24 hours but is pretty dry 24 hours later in humid >>>> garage.

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/52000094258/in/datetaken/

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/52000289919/in/datetaken/



    I also have a customer wanting a sewing machine cabinet similar to the >>>> one I built for my wife a few years ago. But she wants smaller
    somewhere around 4' long and or half the length that I built for my wife. >>>>
    And then our kitchen remodel!

    I'm sure it was fun to have a small quick job. Almost instant gratification. ;-)
    Yes! Light weight and I had all of the materials on hand.

    I'm curious about the Rubio Monocoat, especially the "with hardener" part. >>>
    In my thread about refinishing the coffee table, you mentioned varnish,
    specifically General Finishes Arm-R-Seal. Two or more coats, depending
    on how I applied it.

    So teach me something: Why wouldn't a single coat of Rubio Monocoat
    with hardener be a good choice for a coffee table? Is it not as waterproof, >>> not as durable, etc? It sounds like at least it's cat proof. ;-)
    OK so, I am/was assuming the table will be protected from the weather.
    Indoor use.

    With that in mind, Arm-R-seal is about $30 per quart and will lay down a
    relatively durable finish and if you are only doing the top you should
    have a lot left over, you might consider going a pint. But usually for
    not too much more the quart is less expensive per oz. Arm-R-Seal leaves
    a hard finish. It is a good product. If the surface will see a lot of
    wear it will hold up the best long term.

    Rubio Monocoat is expensive .350 ml IIRC will cost you $50+. That is
    the total make up of the finish and the hardener.
    BUT Robio goes a very looooong way. For small jobs it is advised to
    use 2 syringes for measuring.
    I mixed about 32 ml to do all sides of this project including bottoms

    I'm glad I checked the price on Amazon cuz you had me quivering
    at your numbers. I quote:

    "Rubio Monocoat is expensive .350 ml IIRC will cost you $50+"
    "I mixed about 32 ml to do all sides"

    That's over $4500!

    That one misplaced "space" in your sentence sure makes a difference.
    Typos can be a bitch. ;-)

    LOL!!! Yeah, I originally typed .35L and decided to go with ml and
    for got to remove the decimal.




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  • From Sonny@21:1/5 to All on Thu Apr 21 07:05:07 2022
    I'm curious about the Rubio Monocoat,

    Leon, any idea how well Rubio is for refinishing a sun damaged exterior door? I haven't researched it yet, but I wonder if it may be better than typical UV finishes. Since it's easier to repair, this may be a better option for repairing sun damaged
    Ext doors.

    Sonny

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  • From Leon@21:1/5 to Sonny on Thu Apr 21 11:37:21 2022
    On 4/21/2022 9:05 AM, Sonny wrote:



    I'm curious about the Rubio Monocoat,

    Leon, any idea how well Rubio is for refinishing a sun damaged exterior door? I haven't researched it yet, but I wonder if it may be better than typical UV finishes. Since it's easier to repair, this may be a better option for repairing sun
    damaged Ext doors.

    Sonny


    I do not know, nor do I know if it would be good against rain.

    It would be a good experiment though. You can get small sample bottols
    on Amazon for a bout $10. A small bottle should be more than enough to
    cover several square feet.
    That said, the small sample bottles do not come with the
    hardener/accelerator. With the accelerator cure time is 7 days and is
    pretty much dry to the touch over night. With out the accelerator IIRC
    the cure time is 30 days.
    I would advise that you keep the sample piece out of the sunlight and
    elements until cured. And I would think the sample should be out doors
    for at least a couple of years to get a true feel.


    Back to sun damaged If the finish has gone bad the repair should be
    easier but if the door has gone too long there may not be much hope as I
    have seen the wood open up at joints and on the face too. Almost to the
    point where the wood has started to go grey in color.

    https://www.monocoat.us/

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  • From Michael@21:1/5 to Leon on Fri Apr 22 16:11:49 2022
    On Monday, April 18, 2022 at 12:42:19 PM UTC-5, Leon wrote:
    A good customer asked me to build a cherry cover. This is really quite
    simple and will be used to cover her "hand-stitched" embroidery and to
    keep her cats off of her work.

    Cherry hardwood and plywood. I used the Shaper Origin to cut the box
    joints and I used Rubio Monocoat with hardener for the finish. The
    color is clear/Pure and is a single coat.

    The finish cures in 24 hours but is pretty dry 24 hours later in humid garage.

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/52000094258/in/datetaken/

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/52000289919/in/datetaken/



    I also have a customer wanting a sewing machine cabinet similar to the
    one I built for my wife a few years ago. But she wants smaller
    somewhere around 4' long and or half the length that I built for my wife.

    And then our kitchen remodel!

    Beautiful joint work!

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  • From Leon@21:1/5 to Michael on Mon Apr 25 08:42:11 2022
    On 4/22/2022 6:11 PM, Michael wrote:
    On Monday, April 18, 2022 at 12:42:19 PM UTC-5, Leon wrote:
    A good customer asked me to build a cherry cover. This is really quite
    simple and will be used to cover her "hand-stitched" embroidery and to
    keep her cats off of her work.

    Cherry hardwood and plywood. I used the Shaper Origin to cut the box
    joints and I used Rubio Monocoat with hardener for the finish. The
    color is clear/Pure and is a single coat.

    The finish cures in 24 hours but is pretty dry 24 hours later in humid
    garage.

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/52000094258/in/datetaken/

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/52000289919/in/datetaken/



    I also have a customer wanting a sewing machine cabinet similar to the
    one I built for my wife a few years ago. But she wants smaller
    somewhere around 4' long and or half the length that I built for my wife.

    And then our kitchen remodel!

    Beautiful joint work!


    LOL, Thank you.

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  • From krw@notreal.com@21:1/5 to All on Mon Apr 25 17:01:34 2022
    On Mon, 25 Apr 2022 08:42:11 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
    wrote:

    On 4/22/2022 6:11 PM, Michael wrote:
    On Monday, April 18, 2022 at 12:42:19 PM UTC-5, Leon wrote:
    A good customer asked me to build a cherry cover. This is really quite
    simple and will be used to cover her "hand-stitched" embroidery and to
    keep her cats off of her work.

    Cherry hardwood and plywood. I used the Shaper Origin to cut the box
    joints and I used Rubio Monocoat with hardener for the finish. The
    color is clear/Pure and is a single coat.

    The finish cures in 24 hours but is pretty dry 24 hours later in humid
    garage.

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/52000094258/in/datetaken/

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/52000289919/in/datetaken/



    I also have a customer wanting a sewing machine cabinet similar to the
    one I built for my wife a few years ago. But she wants smaller
    somewhere around 4' long and or half the length that I built for my wife. >>>
    And then our kitchen remodel!

    Beautiful joint work!


    LOL, Thank you.

    Yes, very tightly rolled.

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  • From Leon@21:1/5 to krw@notreal.com on Mon Apr 25 18:06:23 2022
    On 4/25/2022 4:01 PM, krw@notreal.com wrote:
    On Mon, 25 Apr 2022 08:42:11 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
    wrote:

    On 4/22/2022 6:11 PM, Michael wrote:
    On Monday, April 18, 2022 at 12:42:19 PM UTC-5, Leon wrote:
    A good customer asked me to build a cherry cover. This is really quite >>>> simple and will be used to cover her "hand-stitched" embroidery and to >>>> keep her cats off of her work.

    Cherry hardwood and plywood. I used the Shaper Origin to cut the box
    joints and I used Rubio Monocoat with hardener for the finish. The
    color is clear/Pure and is a single coat.

    The finish cures in 24 hours but is pretty dry 24 hours later in humid >>>> garage.

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/52000094258/in/datetaken/

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/52000289919/in/datetaken/



    I also have a customer wanting a sewing machine cabinet similar to the >>>> one I built for my wife a few years ago. But she wants smaller
    somewhere around 4' long and or half the length that I built for my wife. >>>>
    And then our kitchen remodel!

    Beautiful joint work!


    LOL, Thank you.

    Yes, very tightly rolled.

    Yeaaah maaan....

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