This group has been around a long time, going back to original yahoo group, which did not support placing images in messages.
Times have changed and technology has advanced. Why are we still restricted in this google group? Google groups allow images, if the administrator enables that option.
It is annoying to have to deal with all the various means people use to show images - most of them are full of ads and limitations.
It is time to bring this group into modern times. What do you think?
Bob
It is time to bring this group into modern times. What do you think?
Bob
This group has been around a long time, going back to original yahoo group, which did not support placing images in messages.
Times have changed and technology has advanced. Why are we still restricted in this google group? Google groups allow images, if the administrator enables that option.
It is annoying to have to deal with all the various means people use to show images - most of them are full of ads and limitations.
It is time to bring this group into modern times. What do you think?
Bob
This group has been around a long time, going back to original yahoo group, which did not support placing images in messages.
Times have changed and technology has advanced. Why are we still restricted in this google group? Google groups allow images, if the administrator enables that option.
It is annoying to have to deal with all the various means people use to show images - most of them are full of ads and limitations.
It is time to bring this group into modern times. What do you think?
I believe the is not a Google Group, but a usenet newsgroup that is
carried by Google Group. Since it is a usenet newsgroup, it must comply
with the usenet rules and capabilities.
This group has been around a long time, going back to original yahoo group, which did not support placing images in messages.
This group has been around a long time, going back to original yahoo group, which did not support placing images in messages.
Times have changed and technology has advanced. Why are we still restricted in this google group? Google groups allow images, if the administrator enables that option.
It is annoying to have to deal with all the various means people use to show images - most of them are full of ads and limitations.
It is time to bring this group into modern times. What do you think?
This group has been around a long time, going back to original yahoo group, >which did not support placing images in messages.
Times have changed and technology has advanced.
Why are we still restricted in this google group?
Google groups allow images, if the administrator enables that option.
It is annoying to have to deal with all the various means people use to show images
- most of them are full of ads and limitations.
It is time to bring this group into modern times. What do you think?
Bob
Anyone up for posting to alt.binaries pictures.woodworking ?
Joe
Can a direct link to the usenet binary post be created ?
.. if not you've turned a 1-click operation into something
less convenient .. for the sake of avoiding a web advert ?
Is everyone here subscribed to a usenet service that allows
binary groups ? Dunno ..
John T.
This group has been around a long time, going back to original yahoo group, which did not support placing images in messages.
Times have changed and technology has advanced. Why are we still restricted in this google group? Google groups allow images, if the administrator enables that option.
It is annoying to have to deal with all the various means people use to show images - most of them are full of ads and limitations.
It is time to bring this group into modern times. What do you think?
Anyone up for posting to alt.binaries pictures.woodworking ?
Joe
On Wednesday, March 2, 2022 at 2:36:54 PM UTC-5, hub...@ccanoemail.ca wrote: >> >
Anyone up for posting to alt.binaries pictures.woodworking ?
Joe
Can a direct link to the usenet binary post be created ?
.. if not you've turned a 1-click operation into something
less convenient .. for the sake of avoiding a web advert ?
I've never been on the "other end" of one of my imgur links. Do people
see ads? When I put the link in the address bar or click on it from one
of my GG posts, all I see is the image in a browser window. Nothing
else, but I'm registered at imgur, so maybe it knows it's me.
https://i.imgur.com/8dyS4kN.jpg
This group has been around a long time, going back to original yahoo group, which did not support placing images in messages.
Times have changed and technology has advanced. Why are we still restricted in this google group? Google groups allow images, if the administrator enables that option.
It is annoying to have to deal with all the various means people use to show images - most of them are full of ads and limitations.
It is time to bring this group into modern times. What do you think?
On Mar 2, 2022, knuttle wrote
(in article <svoejd$7bt$1@dont-email.me>):
I believe the is not a Google Group, but a usenet newsgroup that is
carried by Google Group. Since it is a usenet newsgroup, it must comply
with the usenet rules and capabilities.
As Keith stated, this group falls into the “rec” hierarchy with does not >allow for posting of binaries to these groups.
To make up for this shortcoming, “alt.binaries” groups were created. >Here, you can post binaries until your heart’s content. For us woodworkers, >there is “alt.binaries.pictures.woodworking”
For the last few years, this group has been all but dead, though it is still >a valid group carried by most news servers.
For a while back in the day, when it was active, there was a major “pissing >contest” over how to post pictures (jpgs); should they be posted as >standard uuencoded files, which all of the news readers could handle, or >should they be posted in the newfangled “yenc” format.
Posters who used the older news readers couldn’t handle the yenc format, >and complained that it took up too much bandwidth, like they even knew what >they were talking about. Yenc was actually an even better compression >technique which took up less bandwidth. The problem was you needed a more >model news reader to even view yen compressed files.
Today, I don’t think yenc ruffles many feathers with just about all of the >news readers these days. and who uses dial up theses days where bandwidth >would even be a problem.
Anyone up for posting to alt.binaries pictures.woodworking ?
Just my .02¢
Joe
On Wed, 2 Mar 2022 11:49:09 -0800 (PST), DerbyDad03
<teama...@eznet.net> wrote:
On Wednesday, March 2, 2022 at 2:36:54 PM UTC-5, hub...@ccanoemail.ca wrote: >> >
Anyone up for posting to alt.binaries pictures.woodworking ?
Joe
Can a direct link to the usenet binary post be created ?
.. if not you've turned a 1-click operation into something
less convenient .. for the sake of avoiding a web advert ?
I've never been on the "other end" of one of my imgur links. Do people
see ads? When I put the link in the address bar or click on it from one
of my GG posts, all I see is the image in a browser window. Nothing
else, but I'm registered at imgur, so maybe it knows it's me.
https://i.imgur.com/8dyS4kN.jpg
No adverts there - posted as " private " perhaps ?
I just viewed an imgur video post of the missile attack in Ukraine
and it did have some adverts - but obviously posted to
generate views and publicity - not just private views.
https://imgur.com/gallery/80oyydp
John T.
On Wednesday, March 2, 2022 at 1:20:41 PM UTC-5, wrober...@gmail.com wrote:
This group has been around a long time, going back to original yahoo group, which did not support placing images in messages.
What "yahoo group" preceded rec.woodworking? I mean directly preceded it such that rec.woodworking is the same group just on a different platform, i.e. usenet?
AFAIK rec.woodworking began as net.rec.wood (1983-ish?) and became rec.woodworking
during the Great Renaming in 1987.
On Wednesday, March 2, 2022 at 2:36:54 PM UTC-5, hub...@ccanoemail.ca wrote: >> >
Anyone up for posting to alt.binaries pictures.woodworking ?
Joe
Can a direct link to the usenet binary post be created ?
.. if not you've turned a 1-click operation into something
less convenient .. for the sake of avoiding a web advert ?
I've never been on the "other end" of one of my imgur links. Do people
see ads? When I put the link in the address bar or click on it from one
of my GG posts, all I see is the image in a browser window. Nothing
else, but I'm registered at imgur, so maybe it knows it's me.
https://i.imgur.com/8dyS4kN.jpg
Is everyone here subscribed to a usenet service that allows
binary groups ? Dunno ..
John T.
Not me.
Anyone up for posting to alt.binaries pictures.woodworking ?
Joe
Can a direct link to the usenet binary post be created ?
.. if not you've turned a 1-click operation into something
less convenient .. for the sake of avoiding a web advert ?
Is everyone here subscribed to a usenet service that allows
binary groups ? Dunno ..
John T.
On Wednesday, March 2, 2022 at 6:33:01 PM UTC-5, Markem618 wrote:
On Wed, 2 Mar 2022 11:49:09 -0800 (PST), DerbyDad03
<teama...@eznet.net> wrote:
On Wednesday, March 2, 2022 at 2:36:54 PM UTC-5, hub...@ccanoemail.ca wrote:If I am scrolling through Leons pic album, an ad will pop in between
Anyone up for posting to alt.binaries pictures.woodworking ?
Joe
Can a direct link to the usenet binary post be created ?
.. if not you've turned a 1-click operation into something
less convenient .. for the sake of avoiding a web advert ?
I've never been on the "other end" of one of my imgur links. Do people
see ads? When I put the link in the address bar or click on it from one
of my GG posts, all I see is the image in a browser window. Nothing
else, but I'm registered at imgur, so maybe it knows it's me.
https://i.imgur.com/8dyS4kN.jpg
Is everyone here subscribed to a usenet service that allows
binary groups ? Dunno ..
John T.
Not me.
pics.
Yes, that I have noticed. I was going to to switch to flickr - even created an >account - but I didn't want to subject others to ads. I was pretty sure that my
imgur pics didn't have ads, but they are single links, not a scrolling roll like
flickr. Give and take, you know.
On Wed, 2 Mar 2022 11:49:09 -0800 (PST), DerbyDad03
<teama...@eznet.net> wrote:
On Wednesday, March 2, 2022 at 2:36:54 PM UTC-5, hub...@ccanoemail.ca wrote: >> >
Anyone up for posting to alt.binaries pictures.woodworking ?
Joe
Can a direct link to the usenet binary post be created ?
.. if not you've turned a 1-click operation into something
less convenient .. for the sake of avoiding a web advert ?
I've never been on the "other end" of one of my imgur links. Do people
see ads? When I put the link in the address bar or click on it from one
of my GG posts, all I see is the image in a browser window. Nothing
else, but I'm registered at imgur, so maybe it knows it's me.
https://i.imgur.com/8dyS4kN.jpg
Is everyone here subscribed to a usenet service that allows
binary groups ? Dunno ..
John T.
Not me.If I am scrolling through Leons pic album, an ad will pop in between
pics.
On Wed, 2 Mar 2022 16:50:48 -0800 (PST), DerbyDad03
<teama...@eznet.net> wrote:
On Wednesday, March 2, 2022 at 6:33:01 PM UTC-5, Markem618 wrote:
On Wed, 2 Mar 2022 11:49:09 -0800 (PST), DerbyDad03
<teama...@eznet.net> wrote:
On Wednesday, March 2, 2022 at 2:36:54 PM UTC-5, hub...@ccanoemail.ca wrote:If I am scrolling through Leons pic album, an ad will pop in between
Anyone up for posting to alt.binaries pictures.woodworking ?
Joe
Can a direct link to the usenet binary post be created ?
.. if not you've turned a 1-click operation into something
less convenient .. for the sake of avoiding a web advert ?
I've never been on the "other end" of one of my imgur links. Do people
see ads? When I put the link in the address bar or click on it from one >> >of my GG posts, all I see is the image in a browser window. Nothing
else, but I'm registered at imgur, so maybe it knows it's me.
https://i.imgur.com/8dyS4kN.jpg
Is everyone here subscribed to a usenet service that allows
binary groups ? Dunno ..
John T.
Not me.
pics.
Yes, that I have noticed. I was going to to switch to flickr - even created anI have not seen any on yours, you said your album is not "public". So
account - but I didn't want to subject others to ads. I was pretty sure that my
imgur pics didn't have ads, but they are single links, not a scrolling roll like
flickr. Give and take, you know.
maybe they do not waste resources on ads on private albums?
Me I do not store anything on a cloud or any other exterior storage.
Plenty of "free" space offered to me, but I have backups on hard
drives, redundant to.
This group has been around a long time, going back to original yahoo group, which did not support placing images in messages.
Times have changed and technology has advanced. Why are we still restricted in this google group? Google groups allow images, if the administrator enables that option.
It is annoying to have to deal with all the various means people use to show images - most of them are full of ads and limitations.
It is time to bring this group into modern times. What do you think?
Bob
On 3/2/2022 12:20 PM, Bob Davis wrote:
This group has been around a long time, going back to original yahoo group, which did not support placing images in messages.
Times have changed and technology has advanced. Why are we still restricted in this google group? Google groups allow images, if the administrator enables that option.
It is annoying to have to deal with all the various means people use to show images - most of them are full of ads and limitations.
It is time to bring this group into modern times. What do you think?
Bob
I have been here about 23 years. I/we have never been able to post
pictures in this group. We did, at one time have another similar news
group that did allow pictures. That got closed down at about this time
in 2009. Soooo now I post pictures to Flickr and past a link here. And
I have to go through Giganews to post here.
On Wed, 02 Mar 2022 14:39:15 -0500, hubops@ccanoemail.ca wrote:
Anyone up for posting to alt.binaries pictures.woodworking ?
Joe
Can a direct link to the usenet binary post be created ?
.. if not you've turned a 1-click operation into something
less convenient .. for the sake of avoiding a web advert ?
Is everyone here subscribed to a usenet service that allows
binary groups ? Dunno ..
John T.
I am subscribed to Giganews, they carry binaries, alot of folks go
through google.
The solution create your own web based discussion forum that allows
pretty pictures. Now that comes with paying for it, policing it and
many other thing that will eat at your time for other things.
On Wed, 2 Mar 2022 10:20:37 -0800 (PST), Bob Davis
<wrobertdavis@gmail.com> wrote:
This group has been around a long time, going back to original yahoo group, >>which did not support placing images in messages.
Times have changed and technology has advanced.
Why are we still restricted in this google group?
Google groups allow images, if the administrator enables that option.
It is annoying to have to deal with all the various means people use to show images
- most of them are full of ads and limitations.
It is time to bring this group into modern times. What do you think?
Bob
To my knowledge :
- this is a usenet group < not a google group >
- this has never been a yahoo group
If you could somehow convert this to a binary usenet group -
- go for it - you got my vote - but I don't think it's possible.
Also - there might still be folks who subscribe to old-school
usenet feeds that do not allow binaries <?>
I've used Imgur for photos - it does have some adverts
but not too bad in my experience - and no need to register.
On Wed, 02 Mar 2022 14:18:31 -0500, 10x <10x@home.com> wrote:
On Mar 2, 2022, knuttle wrote
(in article <svoejd$7bt$1@dont-email.me>):
I believe the is not a Google Group, but a usenet newsgroup that is
carried by Google Group. Since it is a usenet newsgroup, it must comply
with the usenet rules and capabilities.
As Keith stated, this group falls into the �rec� hierarchy with does not >>allow for posting of binaries to these groups.
To make up for this shortcoming, �alt.binaries� groups were created.
Here, you can post binaries until your heart�s content. For us woodworkers, >>there is �alt.binaries.pictures.woodworking�
For the last few years, this group has been all but dead, though it is still >>a valid group carried by most news servers.
For a while back in the day, when it was active, there was a major �pissing >>contest� over how to post pictures (jpgs); should they be posted as >>standard uuencoded files, which all of the news readers could handle, or >>should they be posted in the newfangled �yenc� format.
Posters who used the older news readers couldn�t handle the yenc format, >>and complained that it took up too much bandwidth, like they even knew what >>they were talking about. Yenc was actually an even better compression >>technique which took up less bandwidth. The problem was you needed a more >>model news reader to even view yen compressed files.
Today, I don�t think yenc ruffles many feathers with just about all of the >>news readers these days. and who uses dial up theses days where bandwidth >>would even be a problem.
Anybody who is in a rural area where broadband isn't available.
On Wed, 2 Mar 2022 19:19:57 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote:
On 3/2/2022 12:20 PM, Bob Davis wrote:
This group has been around a long time, going back to original yahoo group, which did not support placing images in messages.
Times have changed and technology has advanced. Why are we still restricted in this google group? Google groups allow images, if the administrator enables that option.
It is annoying to have to deal with all the various means people use to show images - most of them are full of ads and limitations.
It is time to bring this group into modern times. What do you think?
Bob
I have been here about 23 years. I/we have never been able to post >>pictures in this group. We did, at one time have another similar news >>group that did allow pictures. That got closed down at about this time
in 2009. Soooo now I post pictures to Flickr and past a link here. And
I have to go through Giganews to post here.
The group alt.binaries pictures.woodworking still exist sampled the
last 500 headers, one came up 1/04/22 toolkit by John Grossbohlin.
I am on Giganews.
On Wed, 02 Mar 2022 20:06:09 -0600, Markem618 <markrm618@hotmail.com>
wrote:
On Wed, 2 Mar 2022 19:19:57 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote:
On 3/2/2022 12:20 PM, Bob Davis wrote:
This group has been around a long time, going back to original yahoo group, which did not support placing images in messages.
Times have changed and technology has advanced. Why are we still restricted in this google group? Google groups allow images, if the administrator enables that option.
It is annoying to have to deal with all the various means people use to show images - most of them are full of ads and limitations.
It is time to bring this group into modern times. What do you think?
Bob
I have been here about 23 years. I/we have never been able to post >>>pictures in this group. We did, at one time have another similar news >>>group that did allow pictures. That got closed down at about this time >>>in 2009. Soooo now I post pictures to Flickr and past a link here. And >>>I have to go through Giganews to post here.
The group alt.binaries pictures.woodworking still exist sampled the
last 500 headers, one came up 1/04/22 toolkit by John Grossbohlin.
Two articles last year and six in 2020. Not very active.
I am on Giganews.
Agent news.
On Wed, 02 Mar 2022 22:02:56 -0500, krw@notreal.com wrote:
On Wed, 02 Mar 2022 20:06:09 -0600, Markem618 <markrm618@hotmail.com> >>wrote:
On Wed, 2 Mar 2022 19:19:57 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote:
On 3/2/2022 12:20 PM, Bob Davis wrote:
This group has been around a long time, going back to original yahoo group, which did not support placing images in messages.
Times have changed and technology has advanced. Why are we still restricted in this google group? Google groups allow images, if the administrator enables that option.
It is annoying to have to deal with all the various means people use to show images - most of them are full of ads and limitations.
It is time to bring this group into modern times. What do you think? >>>>>
Bob
I have been here about 23 years. I/we have never been able to post >>>>pictures in this group. We did, at one time have another similar news >>>>group that did allow pictures. That got closed down at about this time >>>>in 2009. Soooo now I post pictures to Flickr and past a link here. And >>>>I have to go through Giganews to post here.
The group alt.binaries pictures.woodworking still exist sampled the
last 500 headers, one came up 1/04/22 toolkit by John Grossbohlin.
Two articles last year and six in 2020. Not very active.
I am on Giganews.
Agent news.
I think Giganews purged it of any posts.
Most binaries went down with NY state went after them for kiddy porn.
On Wed, 02 Mar 2022 21:17:05 -0600, Markem618 <markrm618@hotmail.com>
wrote:
On Wed, 02 Mar 2022 22:02:56 -0500, krw@notreal.com wrote:
On Wed, 02 Mar 2022 20:06:09 -0600, Markem618 <markrm618@hotmail.com> >>>wrote:
On Wed, 2 Mar 2022 19:19:57 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote:
On 3/2/2022 12:20 PM, Bob Davis wrote:
This group has been around a long time, going back to original yahoo group, which did not support placing images in messages.
Times have changed and technology has advanced. Why are we still restricted in this google group? Google groups allow images, if the administrator enables that option.
It is annoying to have to deal with all the various means people use to show images - most of them are full of ads and limitations.
It is time to bring this group into modern times. What do you think? >>>>>>
Bob
I have been here about 23 years. I/we have never been able to post >>>>>pictures in this group. We did, at one time have another similar news >>>>>group that did allow pictures. That got closed down at about this time >>>>>in 2009. Soooo now I post pictures to Flickr and past a link here. And >>>>>I have to go through Giganews to post here.
The group alt.binaries pictures.woodworking still exist sampled the >>>>last 500 headers, one came up 1/04/22 toolkit by John Grossbohlin.
Two articles last year and six in 2020. Not very active.
I am on Giganews.
Agent news.
I think Giganews purged it of any posts.
Most binaries went down with NY state went after them for kiddy porn.
I'd forgotten about that. I don't know how far that went but ABPW is
still on Agent. I'm not too interested in looking around too much and >tripping over a k1ddy p0rn st1ng.
Today, I don’t think yenc ruffles many feathers with just about all of the
news readers these days. and who uses dial up theses days where bandwidth would even be a problem.
Anybody who is in a rural area where broadband isn't available.
On Mar 2, 2022, J. Clarke wrote
(in article<tqnv1hdo807umnive...@4ax.com>):
Today, I don’t think yenc ruffles many feathers with just about all of the
news readers these days. and who uses dial up theses days where bandwidth
would even be a problem.
Anybody who is in a rural area where broadband isn't available.Oh, I don’t know... I have a cabin up in hinterlands of NE Pennsylvania’s
Endless Mountains region. It’s located on a dirt road off of a dirt road, and I still have high speed internet.
But I guess you’re right, there are probably some areas that don’t have access to that luxury of high speed internet.
My apologies,
Joe
On Thursday, March 3, 2022 at 7:37:45 AM UTC-5, 10x wrote:
On Mar 2, 2022, J. Clarke wrote
(in article<tqnv1hdo807umnive...@4ax.com>):
Oh, I don�t know... I have a cabin up in hinterlands of NE Pennsylvania�sToday, I don�t think yenc ruffles many feathers with just about all of the
news readers these days. and who uses dial up theses days where bandwidth
would even be a problem.
Anybody who is in a rural area where broadband isn't available.
Endless Mountains region. It�s located on a dirt road off of a dirt road,
and I still have high speed internet.
What is the infrastructure that provides the high speed internet at the cabin?
But I guess you�re right, there are probably some areas that don�t have
access to that luxury of high speed internet.
My apologies,
Joe
I have a coworker whose house is about 1/4 mile off of a secondary road,
3 miles outside a city of about 15K, in a county of about 200K. Not exactly >rural, but he lives in the middle of farm land. High speed internet was >available in the city and just about all of the surrounding areas.
Up until last year he was on DSL, just a step above dial-up. It took 5 years of
requests to get the local ISP to bring high speed internet infrastructure to >the area. A few years ago they came very close to running cable and then >scraped the project and made him wait until while they reengineered the >project for fiber. Last year, dates were set, crews showed up *on site*, only >to be told that they couldn't get enough fiber cable to complete the job. 2 >months later, he finally had high speed internet at his house.
On Thursday, March 3, 2022 at 7:37:45 AM UTC-5, 10x wrote:
But I guess you=E2=80=99re right, there are probably some areas that don= >=E2=80=99t have=20
access to that luxury of high speed internet.=20
=20
My apologies,=20
=20
Joe
I have a coworker whose house is about 1/4 mile off of a secondary road,
3 miles outside a city of about 15K, in a county of about 200K. Not exactly >rural, but he lives in the middle of farm land. High speed internet was=20 >available in the city and just about all of the surrounding areas.
On Wednesday, March 2, 2022 at 6:33:01 PM UTC-5, Markem618 wrote:
On Wed, 2 Mar 2022 11:49:09 -0800 (PST), DerbyDad03
<teama...@eznet.net> wrote:
On Wednesday, March 2, 2022 at 2:36:54 PM UTC-5, hub...@ccanoemail.ca wrote:If I am scrolling through Leons pic album, an ad will pop in between
Anyone up for posting to alt.binaries pictures.woodworking ?
Joe
Can a direct link to the usenet binary post be created ?
.. if not you've turned a 1-click operation into something
less convenient .. for the sake of avoiding a web advert ?
I've never been on the "other end" of one of my imgur links. Do people
see ads? When I put the link in the address bar or click on it from one
of my GG posts, all I see is the image in a browser window. Nothing
else, but I'm registered at imgur, so maybe it knows it's me.
https://i.imgur.com/8dyS4kN.jpg
Is everyone here subscribed to a usenet service that allows
binary groups ? Dunno ..
John T.
Not me.
pics.
Yes, that I have noticed. I was going to to switch to flickr - even created an >account - but I didn't want to subject others to ads. I was pretty sure that my
imgur pics didn't have ads, but they are single links, not a scrolling roll like
flickr. Give and take, you know.
On Wed, 02 Mar 2022 22:02:56 -0500, krw@notreal.com wrote:
On Wed, 02 Mar 2022 20:06:09 -0600, Markem618 <markrm618@hotmail.com> >>wrote:
On Wed, 2 Mar 2022 19:19:57 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote:
On 3/2/2022 12:20 PM, Bob Davis wrote:
This group has been around a long time, going back to original yahoo group, which did not support placing images in messages.
Times have changed and technology has advanced. Why are we still restricted in this google group? Google groups allow images, if the administrator enables that option.
It is annoying to have to deal with all the various means people use to show images - most of them are full of ads and limitations.
It is time to bring this group into modern times. What do you think? >>>>>
Bob
I have been here about 23 years. I/we have never been able to post >>>>pictures in this group. We did, at one time have another similar news >>>>group that did allow pictures. That got closed down at about this time >>>>in 2009. Soooo now I post pictures to Flickr and past a link here. And >>>>I have to go through Giganews to post here.
The group alt.binaries pictures.woodworking still exist sampled the
last 500 headers, one came up 1/04/22 toolkit by John Grossbohlin.
Two articles last year and six in 2020. Not very active.
I am on Giganews.
Agent news.
I think Giganews purged it of any posts.
Most binaries went down with NY state went after them for kiddy porn.
DerbyDad03 <teama...@eznet.net> writes:
On Thursday, March 3, 2022 at 7:37:45 AM UTC-5, 10x wrote:
But I guess you=E2=80=99re right, there are probably some areas that don= >=E2=80=99t have=20
access to that luxury of high speed internet.=20
=20
My apologies,=20
=20
Joe
I have a coworker whose house is about 1/4 mile off of a secondary road,I'm in a similar location, there's no wired or fibre infrastructure
3 miles outside a city of about 15K, in a county of about 200K. Not exactly >rural, but he lives in the middle of farm land. High speed internet was=20 >available in the city and just about all of the surrounding areas.
other than 1.5Mbs legacy DSL from the useless Frontier. Most folks
out here use point-to-point wireless from small ISPs - I get 25Mbs with
low latency from one of those (two radio hops to the ISP fiber).
$ grep alt.binaries.erotica ~/.newsrc
alt.binaries.erotica! 1-276622072
...
I suspect this group was around before Yahoo. If you want something
somewhat similar with pictures, try Reddit.
This group has been around a long time, going back to original yahoo group, which did not support placing images in messages.
Times have changed and technology has advanced. Why are we still restricted in this google group? Google groups allow images, if the administrator enables that option.
It is annoying to have to deal with all the various means people use to show images - most of them are full of ads and limitations.
It is time to bring this group into modern times. What do you think?
Bob
What is the infrastructure that provides the high speed internet at the cabin?
scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) wrote in >news:Tb5UJ.51296$oF2.41044@fx10.iad:
*snip*
*snip*
$ grep alt.binaries.erotica ~/.newsrc
alt.binaries.erotica! 1-276622072
...
Is there an alt.binaries.erotica.leevalleytools on your server?
Asking, for, you know, um, it's me.
scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) wrote in >news:Tb5UJ.51296$oF2.41044@fx10.iad:
*snip*
*snip*
$ grep alt.binaries.erotica ~/.newsrc
alt.binaries.erotica! 1-276622072
...
Is there an alt.binaries.erotica.leevalleytools on your server?
Asking, for, you know, um, it's me.
This group has been around a long time, going back to original yahoo group, >which did not support placing images in messages.
Times have changed and technology has advanced. Why are we still
restricted in this google group? Google groups allow images, if the >administrator enables that option.
It is annoying to have to deal with all the various means people use to
show images - most of them are full of ads and limitations.
It is time to bring this group into modern times. What do you think?
Bob
"Markem618" wrote in message >news:0f802hdrp5u8m23vkksjl1fsq92p7dvgkt@4ax.com...
I have been here about 23 years. I/we have never been able to post >>>pictures in this group. We did, at one time have another similar news >>>group that did allow pictures. That got closed down at about this time >>>in 2009. Soooo now I post pictures to Flickr and past a link here. And >>>I have to go through Giganews to post here.
The group alt.binaries pictures.woodworking still exist sampled the
last 500 headers, one came up 1/04/22 toolkit by John Grossbohlin.
This thread explains a lot... I was wondering if anyone was following that >group any more or if anyone saw that image... seems the answer to both
is/was NO! LOL
I have been here about 23 years. I/we have never been able to post >>pictures in this group. We did, at one time have another similar news >>group that did allow pictures. That got closed down at about this time
in 2009. Soooo now I post pictures to Flickr and past a link here. And
I have to go through Giganews to post here.
The group alt.binaries pictures.woodworking still exist sampled the
last 500 headers, one came up 1/04/22 toolkit by John Grossbohlin.
"Markem618" wrote in message >news:0f802hdrp5u8m23vkksjl1fsq92p7dvgkt@4ax.com...
I have been here about 23 years. I/we have never been able to post >>>pictures in this group. We did, at one time have another similar news >>>group that did allow pictures. That got closed down at about this time >>>in 2009. Soooo now I post pictures to Flickr and past a link here. And >>>I have to go through Giganews to post here.
The group alt.binaries pictures.woodworking still exist sampled the
last 500 headers, one came up 1/04/22 toolkit by John Grossbohlin.
This thread explains a lot... I was wondering if anyone was following that >group any more or if anyone saw that image... seems the answer to both
is/was NO! LOL
"Markem618" wrote in message >news:0f802hdrp5u8m23vkksjl1fsq92p7dvgkt@4ax.com...
I have been here about 23 years. I/we have never been able to post >>>pictures in this group. We did, at one time have another similar news >>>group that did allow pictures. That got closed down at about this time >>>in 2009. Soooo now I post pictures to Flickr and past a link here. And >>>I have to go through Giganews to post here.
The group alt.binaries pictures.woodworking still exist sampled the
last 500 headers, one came up 1/04/22 toolkit by John Grossbohlin.
This thread explains a lot... I was wondering if anyone was following that >group any more or if anyone saw that image... seems the answer to both
is/was NO! LOL
"Markem618" wrote in message >news:0f802hdrp5u8m23vkksjl1fsq92p7dvgkt@4ax.com...
I have been here about 23 years. I/we have never been able to post >>>pictures in this group. We did, at one time have another similar news >>>group that did allow pictures. That got closed down at about this time >>>in 2009. Soooo now I post pictures to Flickr and past a link here. And >>>I have to go through Giganews to post here.
The group alt.binaries pictures.woodworking still exist sampled the
last 500 headers, one came up 1/04/22 toolkit by John Grossbohlin.
This thread explains a lot... I was wondering if anyone was following that >group any more or if anyone saw that image... seems the answer to both
is/was NO! LOL
wrote in message news:26o42htmc4ml3k9crlt5roj8lo2u4bpv7g@4ax.com...
On Fri, 4 Mar 2022 11:15:41 -0500, "John Grossbohlin" ><nospam.grossboj@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote:
"Markem618" wrote in message >>news:0f802hdrp5u8m23vkksjl1fsq92p7dvgkt@4ax.com...Following an inactive group is pretty easy, I the .pictures group and
I have been here about 23 years. I/we have never been able to post >>>>pictures in this group. We did, at one time have another similar news >>>>group that did allow pictures. That got closed down at about this time >>>>in 2009. Soooo now I post pictures to Flickr and past a link here. And >>>>I have to go through Giganews to post here.
The group alt.binaries pictures.woodworking still exist sampled the
last 500 headers, one came up 1/04/22 toolkit by John Grossbohlin.
This thread explains a lot... I was wondering if anyone was following that >>group any more or if anyone saw that image... seems the answer to both >>is/was NO! LOL
did see the image when it was posted. There was no reason to respond
(to whom?).
That was posted as part of a discussion here in rec ww... The way we used to >do things as the norm. Discussion here, pictures there.
It would of course be handy to have both in one group but does the host of >rec ww 1. want images? and 2. have the space to store images? Who owns the >host space for rec WW??
wrote in message news:26o42htmc4ml3k9crlt5roj8lo2u4bpv7g@4ax.com...
On Fri, 4 Mar 2022 11:15:41 -0500, "John Grossbohlin" ><nospam.grossboj@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote:
"Markem618" wrote in message >>news:0f802hdrp5u8m23vkksjl1fsq92p7dvgkt@4ax.com...Following an inactive group is pretty easy, I the .pictures group and
I have been here about 23 years. I/we have never been able to post >>>>pictures in this group. We did, at one time have another similar news >>>>group that did allow pictures. That got closed down at about this time >>>>in 2009. Soooo now I post pictures to Flickr and past a link here. And >>>>I have to go through Giganews to post here.
The group alt.binaries pictures.woodworking still exist sampled the
last 500 headers, one came up 1/04/22 toolkit by John Grossbohlin.
This thread explains a lot... I was wondering if anyone was following that >>group any more or if anyone saw that image... seems the answer to both >>is/was NO! LOL
did see the image when it was posted. There was no reason to respond
(to whom?).
That was posted as part of a discussion here in rec ww... The way we used to >do things as the norm. Discussion here, pictures there.
It would of course be handy to have both in one group but does the host of >rec ww 1. want images? and 2. have the space to store images? Who owns the >host space for rec WW??
I'd say Reddit's format is pretty much what Usenet would grow in to with formatting and pictures. There's even woodworking groups there, but the subreddit (group) I encountered (I think it's /r/woodworking) was filled
with pictures and had very little in educational value.
On Fri, 4 Mar 2022 15:45:01 -0500, "John Grossbohlin" <nospam....@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote:
wrote in message news:26o42htmc4ml3k9cr...@4ax.com...
On Fri, 4 Mar 2022 11:15:41 -0500, "John Grossbohlin" ><nospam....@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote:
"Markem618" wrote in messageFollowing an inactive group is pretty easy, I the .pictures group and
news:0f802hdrp5u8m23vk...@4ax.com...
I have been here about 23 years. I/we have never been able to post >>>>pictures in this group. We did, at one time have another similar news >>>>group that did allow pictures. That got closed down at about this time >>>>in 2009. Soooo now I post pictures to Flickr and past a link here. And >>>>I have to go through Giganews to post here.
The group alt.binaries pictures.woodworking still exist sampled the >>>last 500 headers, one came up 1/04/22 toolkit by John Grossbohlin.
This thread explains a lot... I was wondering if anyone was following that >>group any more or if anyone saw that image... seems the answer to both >>is/was NO! LOL
did see the image when it was posted. There was no reason to respond
(to whom?).
That was posted as part of a discussion here in rec ww... The way we used to >do things as the norm. Discussion here, pictures there.
It would of course be handy to have both in one group but does the host of >rec ww 1. want images? and 2. have the space to store images? Who owns the >host space for rec WW??
No one and everyone. The Usenet has no central storage. It's stored
on every news server. It's really a very small amount of space. Even
the .pictures groups were small. The pictures were downloadable using
voice lines and modems, after all.
I don't know about this group, but most Usenet groups do not allow
images, as they have to be binary groups. Folks on Eternal September
and the like don't support binaries at all, only text. Google Group
members are along for the ride, but have to adhere by Usenet rules.
On Friday, March 4, 2022 at 6:27:03 PM UTC-5, k...@notreal.com wrote:
On Fri, 4 Mar 2022 15:45:01 -0500, "John Grossbohlin"
<nospam....@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote:
wrote in message news:26o42htmc4ml3k9cr...@4ax.com...No one and everyone. The Usenet has no central storage. It's stored
On Fri, 4 Mar 2022 11:15:41 -0500, "John Grossbohlin"
<nospam....@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote:
"Markem618" wrote in messageFollowing an inactive group is pretty easy, I the .pictures group and
news:0f802hdrp5u8m23vk...@4ax.com...
I have been here about 23 years. I/we have never been able to post
pictures in this group. We did, at one time have another similar news
group that did allow pictures. That got closed down at about this time >> >>>>in 2009. Soooo now I post pictures to Flickr and past a link here. And >> >>>>I have to go through Giganews to post here.
The group alt.binaries pictures.woodworking still exist sampled the
last 500 headers, one came up 1/04/22 toolkit by John Grossbohlin.
This thread explains a lot... I was wondering if anyone was following that >> >>group any more or if anyone saw that image... seems the answer to both
is/was NO! LOL
did see the image when it was posted. There was no reason to respond
(to whom?).
That was posted as part of a discussion here in rec ww... The way we used to
do things as the norm. Discussion here, pictures there.
It would of course be handy to have both in one group but does the host of >> >rec ww 1. want images? and 2. have the space to store images? Who owns the >> >host space for rec WW??
on every news server. It's really a very small amount of space. Even
the .pictures groups were small. The pictures were downloadable using
voice lines and modems, after all.
Yeah, but even after 15 minutes we hadn't seen anything below the
neck yet. ;-)
On 2022-03-04, Michael Trew<michael.trew@att.net> wrote:
I don't know about this group, but most Usenet groups do not allow
images, as they have to be binary groups. Folks on Eternal September
and the like don't support binaries at all, only text. Google Group
members are along for the ride, but have to adhere by Usenet rules.
If you're willing to pay for a block provider, you can buy a few GBs
for pennies on the dollar. If your usecase is just text and a couple binaries, that should be more than enough to keep you going for pretty
much ever.
On Fri, 4 Mar 2022 15:45:01 -0500, "John Grossbohlin"
It would of course be handy to have both in one group but does the host of >>rec ww 1. want images? and 2. have the space to store images? Who owns
the
host space for rec WW??
Nobody owns usenet, the rec is hosted on multiple uesnet servers some
do binaries some do not. As the control message of the rec basicly
banned binaries, by specifying it as a text only news group.
"Markem618" wrote in message
news:s7052htdjmgv1v071...@4ax.com...
On Fri, 4 Mar 2022 15:45:01 -0500, "John Grossbohlin"
It would of course be handy to have both in one group but does the host of >>rec ww 1. want images? and 2. have the space to store images? Who owns >>the
host space for rec WW??
Nobody owns usenet, the rec is hosted on multiple uesnet servers someI said nothing about owning Uesnet per se...
do binaries some do not. As the control message of the rec basicly
banned binaries, by specifying it as a text only news group.
It has always come down to the owners of the servers and their control
over what they host.
On Monday, March 7, 2022 at 2:14:35 PM UTC-5, John Grossbohlin wrote:
"Markem618" wrote in message
news:s7052htdjmgv1v071...@4ax.com...
I said nothing about owning Uesnet per se...On Fri, 4 Mar 2022 15:45:01 -0500, "John Grossbohlin"
It would of course be handy to have both in one group but does the host
of
rec ww 1. want images? and 2. have the space to store images? Who owns
the
host space for rec WW??
Nobody owns usenet, the rec is hosted on multiple uesnet servers some
do binaries some do not. As the control message of the rec basicly
banned binaries, by specifying it as a text only news group.
The thing is, Usenet is the reason your desire to have both text and images >in this
group cannot be achieved. Your question "Who owns the host space for rec
WW?"
cannot be answered without discussing Usenet, because therein lies the >answer.
It has always come down to the owners of the servers and their control
over what they host.
Not always. That is not true in the case of Usenet.
So let's say you decide to operate one of those of "local servers". Let's
say you
decide to allow images. The problem is that you have no control over
anything
except for your tiny sliver of Usenet. I might get my feed from you, but
Tom
gets his from Eternal September , Sue is using blocknews, Bill might get
his
from aioe, Giganews, Google Groups, etc. Ann might decide to set up her own >server. You can't control any of that, especially the "constantly changing >conglomeration of news servers that store and forward messages", so you
can't
make the images on your server available to others. Yes, this is a very >simplistic
explanation, but I hope you get the point.
Also, it
appears that ABPW was scrubbed (at least on my feed) as there is only one >post there (viewed with and without filtering). Does anyone else see images >there from the past?
"DerbyDad03" wrote in message >news:29014b35-0575-463a-afdf-e21ac84f9a3dn@googlegroups.com...
On Monday, March 7, 2022 at 2:14:35 PM UTC-5, John Grossbohlin wrote:
"Markem618" wrote in message
news:s7052htdjmgv1v071...@4ax.com...
I said nothing about owning Uesnet per se...On Fri, 4 Mar 2022 15:45:01 -0500, "John Grossbohlin"
It would of course be handy to have both in one group but does the host >>> >>of
rec ww 1. want images? and 2. have the space to store images? Who owns >>> >>the
host space for rec WW??
Nobody owns usenet, the rec is hosted on multiple uesnet servers some
do binaries some do not. As the control message of the rec basicly
banned binaries, by specifying it as a text only news group.
The thing is, Usenet is the reason your desire to have both text and images >>in this
group cannot be achieved. Your question "Who owns the host space for rec >>WW?"
cannot be answered without discussing Usenet, because therein lies the >>answer.
It has always come down to the owners of the servers and their control
over what they host.
Not always. That is not true in the case of Usenet.
snip
So let's say you decide to operate one of those of "local servers". Let's >>say you
decide to allow images. The problem is that you have no control over >>anything
except for your tiny sliver of Usenet. I might get my feed from you, but >>Tom
gets his from Eternal September , Sue is using blocknews, Bill might get >>his
from aioe, Giganews, Google Groups, etc. Ann might decide to set up her own >>server. You can't control any of that, especially the "constantly changing >>conglomeration of news servers that store and forward messages", so you >>can't
make the images on your server available to others. Yes, this is a very >>simplistic
explanation, but I hope you get the point.
That was my point... It depends on the owners of the servers as to what they >accept and pass along. They have control of their piece as exemplified by
the mass exodus of servers and the dropping of newsgroups some years back...
If someone wanted to create a rec.woodworkingII for example, that accepted >binaries, it would have to be picked up and distributed by the hosts and
find a subscriber base. In today's environment it isn't likely to succeed... >people like the WWW and web site. Also, I just looked at other woodworking >related newsgroups and most have been all but defunct for years and all >appeared to suffer the same problem this rec did in the past... spam and >trolls. At least this rec has been staying on task (for the most part!) in >recent years.
Maybe the simplest solution would be to continue the way we worked in the >past with discussion here and images in ABPW. A variant, that assumes there >is no moderation or robot on ABPW to stop discussions there, is that perhaps >a discussion could migrate there after being introduced here. Also, it >appears that ABPW was scrubbed (at least on my feed) as there is only one >post there (viewed with and without filtering). Does anyone else see images >there from the past?
Also, it
appears that ABPW was scrubbed (at least on my feed) as there is only one >>post there (viewed with and without filtering). Does anyone else see
images
there from the past?
4060 posts going back to 2011 on my feed.
... but who cares ?
imgur or similar will reach more people easier.
John T.
wrote in message news:nb4d2hhp6u0kcuujq5ss3ddikkrgr29b32@4ax.com...
Also, it
appears that ABPW was scrubbed (at least on my feed) as there is only one >>>post there (viewed with and without filtering). Does anyone else see >>>images
there from the past?
4060 posts going back to 2011 on my feed.
... but who cares ?
imgur or similar will reach more people easier.
John T.
Kind of begs the question of why you are here? ;~)
The "who cares" part revolves around the notion of being able to search for >existing information instead of having the same questions come up over and >over again... I worked as a skilled craft interpreter at a large east coast >living history museum and the same questions came up repeatedly each day.
How one handled that was the difference between having a good time and >steering presentations, and going insane from the repetitiveness! Not that >we get a lot of newbies here these days, but being able to refer folks to >existing threads can both inform and keep the rec interesting. That's where >the history comes in...
On Tue, 8 Mar 2022 11:58:26 -0500, "John Grossbohlin" ><nospam.grossboj@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote:
wrote in message news:nb4d2hhp6u0kcuujq5ss3ddikkrgr29b32@4ax.com...
Also, it
appears that ABPW was scrubbed (at least on my feed) as there is only one >>>>post there (viewed with and without filtering). Does anyone else see >>>>images
there from the past?
4060 posts going back to 2011 on my feed.
... but who cares ?
imgur or similar will reach more people easier.
John T.
Kind of begs the question of why you are here? ;~)
The "who cares" part revolves around the notion of being able to search for >>existing information instead of having the same questions come up over and >>over again... I worked as a skilled craft interpreter at a large east coast >>living history museum and the same questions came up repeatedly each day. >>How one handled that was the difference between having a good time and >>steering presentations, and going insane from the repetitiveness! Not that >>we get a lot of newbies here these days, but being able to refer folks to >>existing threads can both inform and keep the rec interesting. That's where >>the history comes in...
Anyone who wants his picture to exist on usenet for years & years is
free to post it to the binaries group and announce it here - no prob.
But anyone here who doesn't have access to the binary groups will miss
out on seeing it - unless it is _also_ posted to imgur or similar.
... seems like this topic is going in circles ? ie: nowhere.
John T.
On Tue, 08 Mar 2022 12:58:43 -0500, hubops@ccanoemail.ca wrote:
On Tue, 8 Mar 2022 11:58:26 -0500, "John Grossbohlin" >><nospam.grossboj@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote:
wrote in message news:nb4d2hhp6u0kcuujq5ss3ddikkrgr29b32@4ax.com...
Also, it
appears that ABPW was scrubbed (at least on my feed) as there is only one >>>>>post there (viewed with and without filtering). Does anyone else see >>>>>images
there from the past?
4060 posts going back to 2011 on my feed.
... but who cares ?
imgur or similar will reach more people easier.
John T.
Kind of begs the question of why you are here? ;~)
The "who cares" part revolves around the notion of being able to search for >>>existing information instead of having the same questions come up over and >>>over again... I worked as a skilled craft interpreter at a large east coast >>>living history museum and the same questions came up repeatedly each day. >>>How one handled that was the difference between having a good time and >>>steering presentations, and going insane from the repetitiveness! Not that >>>we get a lot of newbies here these days, but being able to refer folks to >>>existing threads can both inform and keep the rec interesting. That's where >>>the history comes in...
Anyone who wants his picture to exist on usenet for years & years is
free to post it to the binaries group and announce it here - no prob.
But anyone here who doesn't have access to the binary groups will miss
out on seeing it - unless it is _also_ posted to imgur or similar.
... seems like this topic is going in circles ? ie: nowhere.
John T.
Even if you have a newsreader the picture may not be seen, Agent has
this tiny preview window.
Giganews seems to have wiped out any of the old stuff, but they have
good retention on active binaries groups.
On Tue, 08 Mar 2022 12:24:44 -0600, Markem618 <markrm618@hotmail.com>
wrote:
On Tue, 08 Mar 2022 12:58:43 -0500, hubops@ccanoemail.ca wrote:
On Tue, 8 Mar 2022 11:58:26 -0500, "John Grossbohlin" >>><nospam.grossboj@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote:
wrote in message news:nb4d2hhp6u0kcuujq5ss3ddikkrgr29b32@4ax.com...
Also, it
appears that ABPW was scrubbed (at least on my feed) as there is only one >>>>>>post there (viewed with and without filtering). Does anyone else see >>>>>>images
there from the past?
4060 posts going back to 2011 on my feed.
... but who cares ?
imgur or similar will reach more people easier.
John T.
Kind of begs the question of why you are here? ;~)
The "who cares" part revolves around the notion of being able to search for >>>>existing information instead of having the same questions come up over and >>>>over again... I worked as a skilled craft interpreter at a large east coast >>>>living history museum and the same questions came up repeatedly each day. >>>>How one handled that was the difference between having a good time and >>>>steering presentations, and going insane from the repetitiveness! Not that >>>>we get a lot of newbies here these days, but being able to refer folks to >>>>existing threads can both inform and keep the rec interesting. That's where >>>>the history comes in...
Anyone who wants his picture to exist on usenet for years & years is
free to post it to the binaries group and announce it here - no prob.
But anyone here who doesn't have access to the binary groups will miss >>>out on seeing it - unless it is _also_ posted to imgur or similar.
... seems like this topic is going in circles ? ie: nowhere.
John T.
Even if you have a newsreader the picture may not be seen, Agent has
this tiny preview window.
Agent, at least 8.0nnnnn shows the entire picture, in the resolution
that it was posted.
Giganews seems to have wiped out any of the old stuff, but they have
good retention on active binaries groups.
On Tue, 08 Mar 2022 16:42:10 -0500, krw@notreal.com wrote:
On Tue, 08 Mar 2022 12:24:44 -0600, Markem618 <markrm618@hotmail.com> >>wrote:
On Tue, 08 Mar 2022 12:58:43 -0500, hubops@ccanoemail.ca wrote:
On Tue, 8 Mar 2022 11:58:26 -0500, "John Grossbohlin" >>>><nospam.grossboj@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote:
wrote in message news:nb4d2hhp6u0kcuujq5ss3ddikkrgr29b32@4ax.com...
Also, it
appears that ABPW was scrubbed (at least on my feed) as there is only one
post there (viewed with and without filtering). Does anyone else see >>>>>>>images
there from the past?
4060 posts going back to 2011 on my feed.
... but who cares ?
imgur or similar will reach more people easier.
John T.
Kind of begs the question of why you are here? ;~)
The "who cares" part revolves around the notion of being able to search for
existing information instead of having the same questions come up over and >>>>>over again... I worked as a skilled craft interpreter at a large east coast
living history museum and the same questions came up repeatedly each day. >>>>>How one handled that was the difference between having a good time and >>>>>steering presentations, and going insane from the repetitiveness! Not that
we get a lot of newbies here these days, but being able to refer folks to >>>>>existing threads can both inform and keep the rec interesting. That's where
the history comes in...
Anyone who wants his picture to exist on usenet for years & years is >>>>free to post it to the binaries group and announce it here - no prob. >>>>But anyone here who doesn't have access to the binary groups will miss >>>>out on seeing it - unless it is _also_ posted to imgur or similar.
... seems like this topic is going in circles ? ie: nowhere.
John T.
Even if you have a newsreader the picture may not be seen, Agent has
this tiny preview window.
Agent, at least 8.0nnnnn shows the entire picture, in the resolution
that it was posted.
Giganews seems to have wiped out any of the old stuff, but they have
good retention on active binaries groups.
Well if you check my headers you might have seen that I have Agent 8.
The preview window shows a thumbnail version. But does not matter I
stay away from binaries, as previous experience they can contain
nondesirable files.
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