There was a lot of talk about how great certain teams are/were because of their number of Quadrant 1 wins. If the Big 12 and the SEC were overrated then yeah, their wins will be from Q1.

The Big-12, where lots of teams were highly rated, caused Kansas to have 24 games in that quadrant, where they went 17-7. And now they're out. Alabama had 18 games in Q1. San Diego State 10. Gonzaga 10.

All I'm saying is Q1 record has to be taken with a grain of salt.

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On 2023-03-25, Eric Ramon <ramon.eric@gmail.com> wrote:

There was a lot of talk about how great certain teams are/were
because of their number of Quadrant 1 wins. If the Big 12 and the
SEC were overrated then yeah, their wins will be from Q1.

The Big-12, where lots of teams were highly rated, caused Kansas to
have 24 games in that quadrant, where they went 17-7. And now
they're out. Alabama had 18 games in Q1. San Diego State 10.
Gonzaga 10.

All I'm saying is Q1 record has to be taken with a grain of salt.

Salt is a necessary ingredient to life. :)

The one-and-done system has been great for college bounceyball parity,
since the great talents don't stay long enough to gel into the
type of team units that can reliably win. The very talented are
young, and the more experienced players aren't the top talent.

Coaches make a difference on these types of teams, which is
why Tom Izzo stayed in a lot longer than Matt Painter with
lesser talent.

--
Any man who is under 30, and is not liberal, has not heart; and any man
who is over 30, and is not a conservative, has not brains.
-- unknown, often falsely attributed to Winston Churchill

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On Friday, March 24, 2023 at 9:03:56 PM UTC-4, Eric Ramon wrote:

There was a lot of talk about how great certain teams are/were because of their number of Quadrant 1 wins. If the Big 12 and the SEC were overrated then yeah, their wins will be from Q1.

The Big-12, where lots of teams were highly rated, caused Kansas to have 24 games in that quadrant, where they went 17-7. And now they're out. Alabama had 18 games in Q1. San Diego State 10. Gonzaga 10.

All I'm saying is Q1 record has to be taken with a grain of salt.

The Big 12 still leads with 1/4 of the Elite 8 along with the Big East. The remaining 1/2 is split between the WCC, MWC, CUSA, and ACC. Kansas still had a lot of Q1 wins whether they did well in the tournament or not. Gonzaga and SDSU play in
conferences where they get fewer opportunities but doesn't mean they aren't good teams. But it's not like they had poor seeds. They also both failed to take some of the big opportunities they did have in the regular season. Gonzaga lost by 19 to Texas,
by 18 to Purdue, and to Baylor on a neutral court, although they did beat Alabama, Xavier, and Michigan State, The only real competition they had in the WCC was St. Mary's. SDSU lost by 17 to Arizona and in OT to Arkansas, as well as to St. Mary's.
They played more NCAA teams in conference in Boise State, Utah State, and Nevada, but all of those teams flamed out of the NCAA tournament ASAP. I think Quad 1 wins is a perfectly fine way to seed teams but I wouldn't necessarily use them to predict the
games.

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On Friday, March 24, 2023 at 8:03:56 PM UTC-5, Eric Ramon wrote:

There was a lot of talk about how great certain teams are/were because of their number of Quadrant 1 wins. If the Big 12 and the SEC were overrated then yeah, their wins will be from Q1.

The Big-12, where lots of teams were highly rated, caused Kansas to have 24 games in that quadrant, where they went 17-7. And now they're out. Alabama had 18 games in Q1. San Diego State 10. Gonzaga 10.

All I'm saying is Q1 record has to be taken with a grain of salt.

I thought all the SEC teams were unprepared for the intensity they faced in the tournament. Bama had very few uncontested shots against SDS and gave up way too many. Every SEC team seemed slow compared to their opponent. I like Kansas St to win and
Gonzaga as a would like to see them win.

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On Saturday, March 25, 2023 at 10:05:26 AM UTC-5, Corky wrote:

On Friday, March 24, 2023 at 8:03:56 PM UTC-5, Eric Ramon wrote:

There was a lot of talk about how great certain teams are/were because of their number of Quadrant 1 wins. If the Big 12 and the SEC were overrated then yeah, their wins will be from Q1.

The Big-12, where lots of teams were highly rated, caused Kansas to have 24 games in that quadrant, where they went 17-7. And now they're out. Alabama had 18 games in Q1. San Diego State 10. Gonzaga 10.

All I'm saying is Q1 record has to be taken with a grain of salt.

I thought all the SEC teams were unprepared for the intensity they faced in the tournament. Bama had very few uncontested shots > against SDS and gave up way too many. Every SEC team seemed slow compared to their opponent. I like Kansas St to win and >

Gonzaga as a would like to see them win.

Let's see, who do I want to lose next.... UConn is my pick now.

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On Sun, 26 Mar 2023 03:17:19 -0700 (PDT), Corky <corkstrew@gmail.com> wrote:

On Saturday, March 25, 2023 at 10:05:26?AM UTC-5, Corky wrote:

On Friday, March 24, 2023 at 8:03:56?PM UTC-5, Eric Ramon wrote:

There was a lot of talk about how great certain teams are/were because of their number of Quadrant 1 wins. If the Big 12 and the SEC were overrated then yeah, their wins will be from Q1.

The Big-12, where lots of teams were highly rated, caused Kansas to have 24 games in that quadrant, where they went 17-7. And now they're out. Alabama had 18 games in Q1. San Diego State 10. Gonzaga 10.

All I'm saying is Q1 record has to be taken with a grain of salt.

I thought all the SEC teams were unprepared for the intensity they faced in the tournament. Bama had very few uncontested shots > against SDS and gave up way too many. Every SEC team seemed slow compared to their opponent. I like Kansas St to win and >
Gonzaga as a would like to see them win.

Let's see, who do I want to lose next.... UConn is my pick now.

As long as UCLA and the BIG10 are out, of the teams left I don't care much who wins. It would be fun to see FAU win since they don't have a short man
complext like UCF and my grandaughter will be going to FAU after HS. I would prefer Miami, Texas, and UConn get bumped out.

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On Sunday, March 26, 2023 at 7:28:45 AM UTC-5, j...@mich.com wrote:

On Sun, 26 Mar 2023 03:17:19 -0700 (PDT), Corky <cork...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Saturday, March 25, 2023 at 10:05:26?AM UTC-5, Corky wrote:

On Friday, March 24, 2023 at 8:03:56?PM UTC-5, Eric Ramon wrote:

There was a lot of talk about how great certain teams are/were because of their number of Quadrant 1 wins. If the Big 12 and the SEC were overrated then yeah, their wins will be from Q1.

The Big-12, where lots of teams were highly rated, caused Kansas to have 24 games in that quadrant, where they went 17-7. And now they're out. Alabama had 18 games in Q1. San Diego State 10. Gonzaga 10.

All I'm saying is Q1 record has to be taken with a grain of salt.

I thought all the SEC teams were unprepared for the intensity they faced in the tournament. Bama had very few uncontested shots > against SDS and gave up way too many. Every SEC team seemed slow compared to their opponent. I like Kansas St to win

and > > > Gonzaga as a would like to see them win.

Let's see, who do I want to lose next.... UConn is my pick now.

As long as UCLA and the BIG10 are out, of the teams left I don't care much who wins. It would be fun to see FAU win since they don't have a short man
complext like UCF and my grandaughter will be going to FAU after HS. I would prefer Miami, Texas, and UConn get bumped out.

Why do you cheer for the bRuins?

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On Sun, 26 Mar 2023 09:44:08 -0700 (PDT), unclejr <watsona64@gmail.com> wrote:

On Sunday, March 26, 2023 at 7:28:45?AM UTC-5, j...@mich.com wrote:

On Sun, 26 Mar 2023 03:17:19 -0700 (PDT), Corky <cork...@gmail.com> wrote: >>

On Saturday, March 25, 2023 at 10:05:26?AM UTC-5, Corky wrote:

On Friday, March 24, 2023 at 8:03:56?PM UTC-5, Eric Ramon wrote:

There was a lot of talk about how great certain teams are/were because of their number of Quadrant 1 wins. If the Big 12 and the SEC were overrated then yeah, their wins will be from Q1.

The Big-12, where lots of teams were highly rated, caused Kansas to have 24 games in that quadrant, where they went 17-7. And now they're out. Alabama had 18 games in Q1. San Diego State 10. Gonzaga 10.

All I'm saying is Q1 record has to be taken with a grain of salt.

I thought all the SEC teams were unprepared for the intensity they faced in the tournament. Bama had very few uncontested shots > against SDS and gave up way too many. Every SEC team seemed slow compared to their opponent. I like Kansas St to win

and > > > Gonzaga as a would like to see them win.

Let's see, who do I want to lose next.... UConn is my pick now.

As long as UCLA and the BIG10 are out, of the teams left I don't care much who wins. It would be fun to see FAU win since they don't have a short man
complext like UCF and my grandaughter will be going to FAU after HS. I would prefer Miami, Texas, and UConn get bumped out.

Why do you cheer for the bRuins?

Because when they dominated, UCLA had several major advantages others did not.

1) The NCAA tournament was 16 teams and each conference could send only one team.
2) The PAC did not have a championship tournament to determine who the conference would send.
3) Regionals meant something. Teams went to the regional in which they were physically located to play two games to reach the Final Four.

So, since no team in the PAC other than UCLA played serious BB, and there was no chance of a fluke loss in a conference tournament, at the start of
the season UCLA knew they would be going to the NCAA. Since no team in the west played serious BB either, UCLA could breeze through their regional
into the Final Four.

By contrast, teams from strong conferences in the east and mid-east and mid west had nerve wracking single elimination conference tournaments, and if
they survived, they then had to play two powerful ranked teams in their regional.

UCLA would get to the FF fresh as a daisy and peaking in attitude, while the others were exhausted and emotionally drained from the pressure. When the
NCAA expanded to 32 teams and starting allowing multiple teams from the same conference, and sent some of those teams to the west division UCLA played
in, UCLA's championships came to a screeching halt.

BTW, I grew up in an LA suburb and am a UCLA fan (not USC) in all other sports, and UCLA had some powerful teams that should have won championships
anyway, but not nearly as many as they did.

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On Sunday, March 26, 2023 at 3:14:58 PM UTC-5, j...@mich.com wrote:

On Sun, 26 Mar 2023 09:44:08 -0700 (PDT), unclejr <wats...@gmail.com> wrote: >On Sunday, March 26, 2023 at 7:28:45?AM UTC-5, j...@mich.com wrote:

On Sun, 26 Mar 2023 03:17:19 -0700 (PDT), Corky <cork...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Saturday, March 25, 2023 at 10:05:26?AM UTC-5, Corky wrote:

On Friday, March 24, 2023 at 8:03:56?PM UTC-5, Eric Ramon wrote:

There was a lot of talk about how great certain teams are/were because of their number of Quadrant 1 wins. If the Big 12 and the SEC were overrated then yeah, their wins will be from Q1.

The Big-12, where lots of teams were highly rated, caused Kansas to have 24 games in that quadrant, where they went 17-7. And now they're out. Alabama had 18 games in Q1. San Diego State 10. Gonzaga 10.

All I'm saying is Q1 record has to be taken with a grain of salt.

I thought all the SEC teams were unprepared for the intensity they faced in the tournament. Bama had very few uncontested shots > against SDS and gave up way too many. Every SEC team seemed slow compared to their opponent. I like Kansas St to win

and > > > Gonzaga as a would like to see them win.

Let's see, who do I want to lose next.... UConn is my pick now.

As long as UCLA and the BIG10 are out, of the teams left I don't care much who wins. It would be fun to see FAU win since they don't have a short man
complext like UCF and my grandaughter will be going to FAU after HS. I would prefer Miami, Texas, and UConn get bumped out.

Why do you cheer for the bRuins?

Because when they dominated, UCLA had several major advantages others did not.

1) The NCAA tournament was 16 teams and each conference could send only one team.
2) The PAC did not have a championship tournament to determine who the conference would send.
3) Regionals meant something. Teams went to the regional in which they were physically located to play two games to reach the Final Four.

So, since no team in the PAC other than UCLA played serious BB, and there was no chance of a fluke loss in a conference tournament, at the start of
the season UCLA knew they would be going to the NCAA. Since no team in the west played serious BB either, UCLA could breeze through their regional
into the Final Four.

By contrast, teams from strong conferences in the east and mid-east and mid west had nerve wracking single elimination conference tournaments, and if
they survived, they then had to play two powerful ranked teams in their regional.

UCLA would get to the FF fresh as a daisy and peaking in attitude, while the others were exhausted and emotionally drained from the pressure. When the
NCAA expanded to 32 teams and starting allowing multiple teams from the same conference, and sent some of those teams to the west division UCLA played
in, UCLA's championships came to a screeching halt.

BTW, I grew up in an LA suburb and am a UCLA fan (not USC) in all other sports, and UCLA had some powerful teams that should have won championships
anyway, but not nearly as many as they did.

Which suburb (if you don't mind me asking)?

Pro tip: fucla sucks.

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On Saturday, March 25, 2023 at 10:58:09 PM UTC-7, William wrote:

I'm waiting to see when Brandon Miller is going to be charged as an accessory to the murder of Jamea Harris. The DA's pathetic excuse that
he didn't know it was going to be used in a crime is BS. If they can
charge a drug mule for carrying drugs, they can charge a gun mule for delivering one.

Needs to face the same death penalty the two charged with the murder.

By Alabama statutes, he is chargeable with the murder.

Mike

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On Sun, 26 Mar 2023 16:11:31 -0700 (PDT), unclejr <watsona64@gmail.com> wrote:

On Sunday, March 26, 2023 at 3:14:58?PM UTC-5, j...@mich.com wrote:

On Sun, 26 Mar 2023 09:44:08 -0700 (PDT), unclejr <wats...@gmail.com> wrote:

Why do you cheer for the bRuins?

Because when they dominated, UCLA had several major advantages others did not.

1) The NCAA tournament was 16 teams and each conference could send only one team.
2) The PAC did not have a championship tournament to determine who the conference would send.
3) Regionals meant something. Teams went to the regional in which they were physically located to play two games to reach the Final Four.

So, since no team in the PAC other than UCLA played serious BB, and there was no chance of a fluke loss in a conference tournament, at the start of
the season UCLA knew they would be going to the NCAA. Since no team in the west played serious BB either, UCLA could breeze through their regional
into the Final Four.

By contrast, teams from strong conferences in the east and mid-east and mid west had nerve wracking single elimination conference tournaments, and if
they survived, they then had to play two powerful ranked teams in their regional.

UCLA would get to the FF fresh as a daisy and peaking in attitude, while the others were exhausted and emotionally drained from the pressure. When the
NCAA expanded to 32 teams and starting allowing multiple teams from the same conference, and sent some of those teams to the west division UCLA played
in, UCLA's championships came to a screeching halt.

BTW, I grew up in an LA suburb and am a UCLA fan (not USC) in all other sports, and UCLA had some powerful teams that should have won championships
anyway, but not nearly as many as they did.

Which suburb (if you don't mind me asking)?

Santa Ana. Used to be a nice city, not sure what it's like now.

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On Monday, March 27, 2023 at 6:05:18 AM UTC-5, j...@mich.com wrote:

On Sun, 26 Mar 2023 16:11:31 -0700 (PDT), unclejr <wats...@gmail.com> wrote: >On Sunday, March 26, 2023 at 3:14:58?PM UTC-5, j...@mich.com wrote:

On Sun, 26 Mar 2023 09:44:08 -0700 (PDT), unclejr <wats...@gmail.com> wrote:

Why do you cheer for the bRuins?

Because when they dominated, UCLA had several major advantages others did not.

1) The NCAA tournament was 16 teams and each conference could send only one team.
2) The PAC did not have a championship tournament to determine who the conference would send.
3) Regionals meant something. Teams went to the regional in which they were physically located to play two games to reach the Final Four.

So, since no team in the PAC other than UCLA played serious BB, and there was no chance of a fluke loss in a conference tournament, at the start of
the season UCLA knew they would be going to the NCAA. Since no team in the west played serious BB either, UCLA could breeze through their regional
into the Final Four.

By contrast, teams from strong conferences in the east and mid-east and mid west had nerve wracking single elimination conference tournaments, and if
they survived, they then had to play two powerful ranked teams in their regional.

UCLA would get to the FF fresh as a daisy and peaking in attitude, while the others were exhausted and emotionally drained from the pressure. When the
NCAA expanded to 32 teams and starting allowing multiple teams from the same conference, and sent some of those teams to the west division UCLA played
in, UCLA's championships came to a screeching halt.

BTW, I grew up in an LA suburb and am a UCLA fan (not USC) in all other sports, and UCLA had some powerful teams that should have won championships
anyway, but not nearly as many as they did.

Which suburb (if you don't mind me asking)?

Santa Ana. Used to be a nice city, not sure what it's like now.

It's grate!

I saw The Blasters there at the La Santa venue a few years ago. My car was still there parked on the street when the concert was over!

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