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    From anders t@21:1/5 to All on Tue Feb 21 22:38:12 2023
    The only thing holding me back from LOL is that we have Barca soon. Not
    really necessary to turn the woff gods' attention to that.


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    Manchester United FC - CHAMPIONS
    Latest: England '13 (20th) Europa '17, UEFA '08, World '08

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  • From HASM@21:1/5 to All on Tue Feb 21 15:50:22 2023
    anders> Manchester United FC - CHAMPIONS
    anders> Latest: England '13 (20th) Europa '17, UEFA '08, World '08

    Usually my eyes just skip over signatures, today I read Anders'

    UEFA '08! Time does fly. In May of that year I went on a business trip
    to the East coast, hopping over to Portugal in the middle of it.

    I stayed at the Marriott in Annapolis Junction, around the corner from
    the NSA, and most personnel at the hotel seemed to be either Russian or Ukrainians:-). Watched the 2nd half of the final at the bar, and most of
    them were just idling around looking at the game. I think they were
    pulling for Chelsea, as loyal Abramovitch fans.

    Things did change a lot since then, not only for ManU.

    -- HASM

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  • From Al Kamista@21:1/5 to anders t on Wed Feb 22 11:23:26 2023
    On Wednesday, February 22, 2023 at 2:38:32 AM UTC+5, anders t wrote:
    The only thing holding me back from LOL is that we have Barca soon. Not really necessary to turn the woff gods' attention to that.

    The only part you forgot to mention is that you face Barca in the Europa Cup. LOL.

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  • From anders t@21:1/5 to All on Thu Feb 23 19:16:25 2023
    Quoting Al Kamista in rec.sport.soccer:
    On Wednesday, February 22, 2023 at 2:38:32?AM UTC+5, anders t wrote:
    The only thing holding me back from LOL is that we have Barca soon. Not
    really necessary to turn the woff gods' attention to that.

    The only part you forgot to mention is that you face Barca in the Europa Cup. LOL.


    La Liga
    1 Barcelona 22 19 2 1 45-7 59
    2 Real Madrid 22 16 3 3 46-17 51


    EPL
    3 Man United 24 15 4 5 41-28 49
    .
    .
    .
    .
    8 Liverpool 22 10 5 7 38-28 35




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    Latest: England '13 (20th) Europa '17, UEFA '08, World '08

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  • From Al Kamista@21:1/5 to anders t on Fri Feb 24 04:04:40 2023
    On Thursday, February 23, 2023 at 11:16:28 PM UTC+5, anders t wrote:
    Quoting Al Kamista in rec.sport.soccer:
    On Wednesday, February 22, 2023 at 2:38:32?AM UTC+5, anders t wrote:
    The only thing holding me back from LOL is that we have Barca soon. Not >> really necessary to turn the woff gods' attention to that.

    The only part you forgot to mention is that you face Barca in the Europa Cup. LOL.
    La Liga
    1 Barcelona 22 19 2 1 45-7 59
    2 Real Madrid 22 16 3 3 46-17 51


    EPL
    3 Man United 24 15 4 5 41-28 49
    .
    .
    .
    .
    8 Liverpool 22 10 5 7 38-28 35

    Trophies won in last 5 seasons:
    Real Madrid 7
    Liverpool 6
    Barcelona 4
    .
    .
    .
    .
    .
    Man Utd 0

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  • From anders t@21:1/5 to All on Fri Feb 24 23:00:41 2023
    Quoting Al Kamista in rec.sport.soccer:
    On Thursday, February 23, 2023 at 11:16:28?PM UTC+5, anders t wrote:
    Quoting Al Kamista in rec.sport.soccer:
    On Wednesday, February 22, 2023 at 2:38:32?AM UTC+5, anders t wrote:
    The only thing holding me back from LOL is that we have Barca soon. Not >> >> really necessary to turn the woff gods' attention to that.

    The only part you forgot to mention is that you face Barca in the Europa Cup. LOL.
    La Liga
    1 Barcelona 22 19 2 1 45-7 59
    2 Real Madrid 22 16 3 3 46-17 51


    EPL
    3 Man United 24 15 4 5 41-28 49
    .
    .
    .
    .
    8 Liverpool 22 10 5 7 38-28 35

    Trophies won in last 5 seasons:
    Real Madrid 7
    Liverpool 6
    Barcelona 4
    .
    .
    .
    .
    .
    Man Utd 0

    Desperation! But you had some good Klopp years.


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    Latest: England '13 (20th) Europa '17, UEFA '08, World '08

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  • From MH@21:1/5 to Al Kamista on Tue Feb 28 20:51:50 2023
    On 2023-02-24 05:04, Al Kamista wrote:
    On Thursday, February 23, 2023 at 11:16:28 PM UTC+5, anders t wrote:
    Quoting Al Kamista in rec.sport.soccer:
    On Wednesday, February 22, 2023 at 2:38:32?AM UTC+5, anders t wrote:
    The only thing holding me back from LOL is that we have Barca soon. Not >>>> really necessary to turn the woff gods' attention to that.

    The only part you forgot to mention is that you face Barca in the Europa Cup. LOL.
    La Liga
    1 Barcelona 22 19 2 1 45-7 59
    2 Real Madrid 22 16 3 3 46-17 51


    EPL
    3 Man United 24 15 4 5 41-28 49
    .
    .
    .
    .
    8 Liverpool 22 10 5 7 38-28 35

    Trophies won in last 5 seasons:

    Adjusted for "Real" trophies (ie. no charity shields, super cups , WCC
    and so on)

    Real Madrid 7

    2 leagues, no copa del reys, 2 CLs = 4, one of the CLs was in 2018, so
    gets dropped out of the 5 year window after this year.

    Liverpool 6

    1 CL, 1 League, 1 FA Cup, 1 league cup =4

    Barcelona 4

    2 leagues, 2 copa del Rey. = 4 (two of which get dropped out of 5 year
    window in a few months)

    .
    .
    .
    .
    .
    Man Utd 0

    1 League cup now.


    Man City:

    4 league
    1 FA Cup
    4 league cup
    = 9 but all in jeopardy I guess. Titles could be stripped.

    Bayern

    5 league
    2 Cup
    1 CL
    = 8

    PSG

    4 league
    3 Cup
    2 League Cup
    =9

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  • From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 2 21:36:22 2023
    MH wrote:

    On 2023-02-24 05:04, Al Kamista wrote:

    Trophies won in last 5 seasons:

    Adjusted for "Real" trophies (ie. no charity shields, super cups ,
    WCC and so on)

    Cough... splutter... no Club World Cup? The most important club trophy
    in the World, nay, the whole Universe? And it doesn't count as a REAL trophy?!!!

    Oh dear, somebody here will be very disappointed... ;-)

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  • From MH@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Thu Mar 2 14:12:41 2023
    On 2023-03-02 13:36, Blueshirt wrote:
    MH wrote:

    On 2023-02-24 05:04, Al Kamista wrote:

    Trophies won in last 5 seasons:

    Adjusted for "Real" trophies (ie. no charity shields, super cups ,
    WCC and so on)

    Cough... splutter... no Club World Cup? The most important club trophy
    in the World, nay, the whole Universe? And it doesn't count as a REAL trophy?!!!

    Oh dear, somebody here will be very disappointed... ;-)


    Not my problem. I have not seen a definition of "major trophy" that I
    like better than what I posted here a while back, though I could
    certainly be convinced otherwise by reasoned argument.

    Some things in common about all the things I consider major trophies:
    1) you need to win more than a handful of games to win the trophy BEYOND whatever got you into the competition in the first place
    2) there are other teams in the competition who are hard to bear
    3) winning them qualifies you for something else that carries at least
    some (and sometimes a great deal) of prestige. (eg. Libertadores,
    European Cup/CL, CWC/Europa league )

    But I know Alkamista more or less agrees with me on this, which is why I
    found his accounting a bit fishy (apart from the obvious goal of
    trolling Anders).

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  • From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 2 22:36:48 2023
    MH wrote:

    On 2023-03-02 13:36, Blueshirt wrote:
    MH wrote:

    On 2023-02-24 05:04, Al Kamista wrote:

    Trophies won in last 5 seasons:

    Adjusted for "Real" trophies (ie. no charity shields, super cups ,
    WCC and so on)

    Cough... splutter... no Club World Cup? The most important club
    trophy in the World, nay, the whole Universe? And it doesn't count
    as a REAL trophy?!!!

    Oh dear, somebody here will be very disappointed... ;-)

    Not my problem. I have not seen a definition of "major trophy" that
    I like better than what I posted here a while back, though I could
    certainly be convinced otherwise by reasoned argument.

    No, I think your definition of "major trophy" makes the most sense. I
    would not consider the CWC a "major" trophy either.

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