GK
RB
CB/SW [name at least two]
LB
DM
CM
RW/RM
AM/SS
LW/LM
CF

Name, for each position, the player or players who you are most
confident that, provided they are healthy, will be the best in the world
at their position by January 1 *OF NEXT YEAR*.

You can only vote a player under his main position according to www.transfermarkt.com . Below you will find a shortlist of the ten highest-valued player in each position on Transfermarkt, but you can
vote for players not listed there; just check their main position on Transfermarkt. If you vote for a player out of position, the vote will
be transferred to the same player in his "official" position.

For each position, you can pick one or more player. You'll give one
point to each in any case.

A week to vote.

Shortlist
=========

GK
Alisson
Diogo Costa
Courtois
Donnarumma
Ederson
Maignan
Oblak
Ramsdale
Robert Sanchez
ter Stegen

RB
Alexander-Arnold
Cancelo
Calabria
Castagne
Dalot
Di Lorenzo
Emerson Royal
Foyth
Frimpong
Hakimi
Justin
Livramento
Mazraoui
Reece James
Pavard
Porro
Tomiyasu
Walker-Peters

CB/SW [name at least two]
Alaba
Araujo
Bastoni
Dias
van Dijk
Fofana
Gvardiol
Lucas Hernandez
Kounde
de Ligt
Marquinhos
Lisandro Martinez
Militao
Romero
Saliba
Skriniar
Timber
Pau Torres
Tomori
Upamecano
White

LB
Chilwell
Cucurella
Davies
Gaya
Theo Hernandez
Mendes
Ferland Mendy
Robertson
Tierney
Zinchenko

DM
Bennacer
Casemiro
Guimaraes
Fabinho
Kimmich
Ndidi
Ruben Neves
Phillips
Rice
Rodri
Soucek
Tchouameni
Tonali
Zubimendi

CM
Barella
Bellingham
Camavinga
Enzo Fernandez
Foden
Gavi
Goretzka
Frenkie de Jong
Merino
Milinkovic-Savic
Pedri
Valverde
Verratti

RW/RM
Antony
Chiesa
Coman
Dembele
Gnabry
Kulusevski
Messi
Raphinha
Rodrygo
Saka
Salah

AM/SS
De Bruyne
Bruno Fernandes
Havertz
Maddison
Mount
Musiala
Nkunku
Odegaard
Bernardo Silva
Wirtz

LW/LM
Gakpo
Grealish
Kvaratskhelia
Luis Diaz
Leao
Mane
Martinelli
Neymar
Oyarzabal
Sancho
Sane
Son
Sterling
Vinicius Junior

CF
Gabriel Jesus
Haaland
Kane
Lukaku
Lautaro Martinez
Darwin Nunez
Mbappe
Osimhen
Richarlison
Vlahovic

Past editions
=============

April 2011

GK Neuer
RD Bosingwa / Maicon
CD Vidic
CD Alex / Carvalho
LD Cole
DM Busquets
CM Xavi
RAM Cristiano Ronaldo / Messi
CAM van der Vaart
LAM Arshavin / Iniesta / Modric / Oezil
ST Rooney / Tevez

Poll: http://groups.google.com/group/rec.sport.soccer/browse_thread/thread/da4c3cabfed764a0/
Results: http://groups.google.com/group/rec.sport.soccer/browse_thread/thread/2e51b8cade3f4204/

---

January 2012

GK Neuer
RD Puyol
CD Pique
CD Kompany / Thiago Silva
LD Lahm
DM Busquets
CM Xavi
RAM Messi
CAM Iniesta
LAM Silva
ST Cristiano Ronaldo

Poll: http://groups.google.com/group/rec.sport.soccer/browse_thread/thread/d3469c85418120d6/
Results: http://groups.google.com/group/rec.sport.soccer/browse_thread/thread/b81e74f03b580578/

---

January 2013

GK Hart
RD Lahm
CD Thiago Silva
CD Pique
LD Alba
DM Busquets
CM Pirlo / Xavi
RAM Goetze
CAM Messi
LAM Cristiano Ronaldo
ST Falcao

If one could clone players:
GK Hart
RD Lahm
CD Thiago Silva
CD Pique
LD Alba
DM Busquets
CM Pirlo / Xavi
* RAM Cristiano Ronaldo / Goetze
CAM Messi
LAM Cristiano Ronaldo
* ST Messi

Poll: https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/rec.sport.soccer/IoMxsHBSDLY
Results: https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/rec.sport.soccer/-HfLOJx5b7M

---

January 2014

GK Neuer
RD Lahm
CD Thiago Silva
CD

GK

Courtois

RB

Alexander-Arnold

CB/SW [name at least two]

Alaba, Dias, van Dijk, Marquinhos

LB

Theo Hernandez, Robertson

DM

Kimmich, Rodri

CM

Gavi, Pedri

RW/RM

Messi

AM/SS

De Bruyne

LW/LM

Kvaratskhelia, Neymar

CF

Haaland, Mbappe

I should be in the FIFPro World XI picking team.

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Cheers
milivella

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On Sunday, February 5, 2023 at 1:50:40 AM UTC, milivella wrote:

Nobody replied, so this poll is officially cancelled forever.

A sign of the ongoing demise of rss? :(

Sorry I didn’t participate, for my part I’ve never been that attuned to who the best players in the World are / will be. I'm more interested in teams, tournaments and the social experience of following football.

RM

Thanks to
everyone who vote in the past 12 years. Here is the definitive list of
the XIs through the years:

April 2011

GK Neuer
RD Bosingwa / Maicon
CD Vidic
CD Alex / Carvalho
LD Cole
DM Busquets
CM Xavi
RAM Cristiano Ronaldo / Messi
CAM van der Vaart
LAM Arshavin / Iniesta / Modric / Oezil
ST Rooney / Tevez

Poll: http://groups.google.com/group/rec.sport.soccer/browse_thread/thread/da4c3cabfed764a0/
Results: http://groups.google.com/group/rec.sport.soccer/browse_thread/thread/2e51b8cade3f4204/

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January 2012

GK Neuer
RD Puyol
CD Pique
CD Kompany / Thiago Silva
LD Lahm
DM Busquets
CM Xavi
RAM Messi
CAM Iniesta
LAM Silva
ST Cristiano Ronaldo

Poll: http://groups.google.com/group/rec.sport.soccer/browse_thread/thread/d3469c85418120d6/
Results: http://groups.google.com/group/rec.sport.soccer/browse_thread/thread/b81e74f03b580578/

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January 2013

GK Hart
RD Lahm
CD Thiago Silva
CD Pique
LD Alba
DM Busquets
CM Pirlo / Xavi
RAM Goetze
CAM Messi
LAM Cristiano Ronaldo
ST Falcao

If one could clone players:
GK Hart
RD Lahm
CD Thiago Silva
CD Pique
LD Alba
DM Busquets
CM Pirlo / Xavi
* RAM Cristiano Ronaldo / Goetze
CAM Messi
LAM Cristiano Ronaldo
* ST Messi

Poll: https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/rec.sport.soccer/IoMxsHBSDLY
Results: https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/rec.sport.soccer/-HfLOJx5b7M

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January 2014

GK Neuer
RD Lahm
CD Thiago Silva
CD Kompany / Marquinhos / Pique
LD Alaba
DM Yaya Toure
CM Schweinsteiger
RAM Cavani / Thomas Mueller / Silva
CAM Rooney
LAM Bale / Cristiano Ronaldo
ST Messi / Suarez

If one could clone players:

GK Neuer
RD Lahm
CD Thiago Silva
CD Kompany / Marquinhos / Pique
LD Alaba
DM Yaya Toure
* CM Schweinsteiger / Yaya Toure
* RAM Cavani / Thomas Mueller / Cristiano Ronaldo / Silva
CAM Rooney
LAM Bale / Cristiano Ronaldo
ST Messi or Suarez

Poll: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/rec.sport.soccer/f7MMLAiYqMs Results: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/rec.sport.soccer/iM5KyjH7FBc

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January 2015

GK Neuer
RD Lahm
CD Boateng
CD Benatia / Marquinhos / Ramos / Varane
LD Alaba
DM Matic
CM Kroos
RAM Di Maria / Robben
CAM James Rodriguez
LAM Bale / Thomas Mueller / Cristiano Ronaldo
ST Messi

Poll: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/rec.sport.soccer/e4HnzeR_rRs Results: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/rec.sport.soccer/K1KY3nz3l8w

Experimental edition:
- Poll: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/rec.sport.soccer/ZJs16SC50LE
- Results: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/rec.sport.soccer/8AvyguY0ns8

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January 2016

GK Neuer
RB Lahm
CD Pique
CD Boateng
LB Alaba
WM Bale
CM Iniesta
WM De Bruyne
FW Messi
FW Suarez
FW Neymar

Poll: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/rec.sport.soccer/P5pdR0Uc8yM Results: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/rec.sport.soccer/o4MWf3MH8kU

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January 2017

GK de Gea
RB Carvajal
CB/SW Bonucci
CB/SW Ramos
LB Alaba
DM Kante
CM Kroos / Modric
RW/LM Messi
AM/SS De Bruyne
LW/LM Cristiano Ronaldo
CF Suarez

Poll: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/rec.sport.soccer/6UWN6ktrqbM Results: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/rec.sport.soccer/rpcAwSMM32w

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January 2018

GK de Gea
RB Carvajal / Kimmich
CB/SW Ramos
CB/SW Varane
LB Marcelo
DM Kante
CM Kroos / Modric / Pogba
RW/RM Messi
AM/SS De Bruyne
LW/LM Neymar
CF Cristiano Ronaldo / Kane

Poll: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/rec.sport.soccer/RTWgAAq1XYU Results: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/rec.sport.soccer/8fgIJv6B0Bg

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January 2019

GK de Gea
RB Kimmich
CB/SW van Dijk
CB/SW Varane
LB Marcelo / Mendy
DM Busquets
CM Kante
RW/RM Messi
AM/SS De Bruyne
LW/LM Hazard / Cristiano Ronaldo
CF Kane

Poll: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/rec.sport.soccer/6-4fQUsuu-E Results: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/rec.sport.soccer/9k-30BqDpfQ

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February 2020

GK Alisson
RB Alexander-Arnold
CB/SW van Dijk
CB/SW de Ligt
LB Robertson
DM Casemiro
CM Kante
RW/RM Messi
AM/SS De Bruyne
LW/LM Mane
CF Lewandowski

Poll: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/rec.sport.soccer/KyXKA0E-Mz8 Results: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/rec.sport.soccer/b-ORao8xhng

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February 2021

GK Oblak
RB Alexander-Arnold / Reece James
CB/SW Dias
CB/SW van Dijk
LB Robertson
DM Kimmich
CM Gundogan
RW/RM Bernardo Silva / Messi
AM/SS Bruno Fernades
LW/LM Neymar
CF Haaland

Poll: https://groups.google.com/g/rec.sport.soccer/c/6YvNwJlZ44o
Results: https://groups.google.com/g/rec.sport.soccer/c/dLO1Kilz7aI

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January 2022

GK Donnarumma
RB Alexander-Arnold
CB/SW Dias
CB/SW van Dijk
LB Davies
DM Kimmich
CM Foden / Pedri
RW/RM Salah
AM/SS De Bruyne
LW/LM Vinicius Junior
CF Haaland

Poll: https://groups.google.com/g/rec.sport.soccer/c/EbwOunmSrWs
Results: https://groups.google.com/g/rec.sport.soccer/c/mh25Cr1j4Gc

Some more stats:

Most represented...

...nation:
Year Pls. Leader
2011 2.25 Spain
2012 6.00 Spain
2013 3.50 Spain
2014 3.33 Germany
2015 4.33 Germany
2016 4.00 Germany
2017 3.00 Spain
2018 2.50 Spain
2019 3.00 France
2020 2.00 Brazil,France,Netherlands
2021 2.50 Portugal
2022 1.50 England

...club:
Year Pls. Leader
2011 2.75 Barcelona
2012 6.00 Barcelona
2013 3.50 Barcelona
2014 3.33 Bayern
2015 5.08 Bayern
2016 5.00 Barcelona
2017 4.00 Real Madrid
2018 4.66 Real Madrid
2019 2.00 Barcelona
2020 5.00 Liverpool
2021 2.50 Liverpool,Manchester City
2022 3.00 Liverpool

...league:
Year Pls. Leader
2011 5.50 England
2012 7.00 Spain
2013 6.50 Spain
2014 4.33 Germany
2015 5.08 Germany
2016 6.00 Spain
2017 6.00 Spain
2018 5.66 Spain
2019 6.00 England
2020 7.00 England
2021 6.50 England
2022 5.50 England

Players who have featured more than once:

Player 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22
Neuer GK GK - GK GK GK - - - - - -
Busquets DM DM DM - - - - - DM - - -
Xavi CM CM CM - - - - - - - - -
C.Ronaldo RAM ST LAM LAM LAM - LW CF LW - - -
Messi RAM RAM CAM ST ST FW RW RW RW RW RW -
Iniesta LAM CAM - - - CM - - - - - -
Modric LAM - - - - - CM CM - - - -
Rooney ST - - CAM - - - - - - - -
Pique - CD CD CD - CD - - - - - -
T.Silva - CD CD CD - - - - - - - -
Silva - LAM - RAM - - - - - - - -
Lahm - LD RD RD RD RB - - - - - -
Marquinhos - - - CD CD - - - - - - -
Alaba - - - LD LD LB LB - - - - -
Bale - - - LAM LAM WM - - - - - -
T.Mueller - - - RAM LAM - - - - - - -
Suarez - - - FW - FW CF - - - - -
Boateng - - - - CD CD - - - - - -
Ramos - - - - CD - CB CB - - - -
Kroos - - - - CM - CM CM - - - -
De Bruyne - - - - - WM AM AM AM AM - AM
Varane - - - - CB - - CB CB - - -
Neymar - - - - - FW - LW - - LW -
de Gea - - - - - - GK GK GK - - -
Carvajal - - - - - - RB RB - - - -
Kante - - - - - - DM DM CM CM - -
Kimmich - - - - - - - RB RB - DM DM
Marcelo - - - - - - - LB LB - - -
Kane - - - - - - - CF CF - - -
van Dijk - - - - - - - - CB CB CB CB
A.-Arnold - - - - - - - - - RB RB RB
Robertson - - - - - - - - - LB LB -
Dias - - - - - - - - - - CB CB
Haaland - - - - - - - - - - CF CF

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Cheers
milivella

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On Thursday, January 26, 2023 at 8:42:46 PM UTC-5, milivella wrote:

GK

Alisson

RB

Reece James

CB/SW [name at least two]

Marquinhos
Dias

LB

Robertson

DM

Kimmich

CM

Tchouameni

RW/RM

Saka

AM/SS

Bruno Fernandes

LW/LM

Vinicius

CF

Mbappe
Haaland

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Al Kamista:

On Thursday, January 26, 2023 at 8:42:46 PM UTC-5, milivella wrote:

GK

Thanks for voting! I guess two of us is too few to have an official
result, but these are the players we have in common:

CB/SW [name at least two]

Marquinhos
Dias

LB

Robertson

DM

Kimmich

CF

Mbappe
Haaland

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On 2023-01-26 18:42, milivella wrote:

GK

Courtois

RB

Hakimi

CB/SW [name at least two]

Van Dijk
Kimpembe

LB

Davies

DM

Rice

CM

Pedri, Gavi

RW/RM

Saka

AM/SS

Odegard

LW/LM

Kvaratskhelia

CF

Haaland

Name, for each position, the player or players who you are most
confident that, provided they are healthy, will be the best in the world
at their position by January 1 *OF NEXT YEAR*.

You can only vote a player under his main position according to www.transfermarkt.com . Below you will find a shortlist of the ten highest-valued player in each position on Transfermarkt, but you can
vote for players not listed there; just check their main position on Transfermarkt. If you vote for a player out of position, the vote will
be transferred to the same player in his "official" position.

For each position, you can pick one or more player. You'll give one
point to each in any case.

A week to vote.

Shortlist
=========

GK
Alisson
Diogo Costa
Courtois
Donnarumma
Ederson
Maignan
Oblak
Ramsdale
Robert Sanchez
ter Stegen

RB
Alexander-Arnold
Cancelo
Calabria
Castagne
Dalot
Di Lorenzo
Emerson Royal
Foyth
Frimpong
Hakimi
Justin
Livramento
Mazraoui
Reece James
Pavard
Porro
Tomiyasu
Walker-Peters

CB/SW [name at least two]
Alaba
Araujo
Bastoni
Dias
van Dijk
Fofana
Gvardiol
Lucas Hernandez
Kounde
de Ligt
Marquinhos
Lisandro Martinez
Militao
Romero
Saliba
Skriniar
Timber
Pau Torres
Tomori
Upamecano
White

LB
Chilwell
Cucurella
Davies
Gaya
Theo Hernandez
Mendes
Ferland Mendy
Robertson
Tierney
Zinchenko

DM
Bennacer
Casemiro
Guimaraes
Fabinho
Kimmich
Ndidi
Ruben Neves
Phillips
Rice
Rodri
Soucek
Tchouameni
Tonali
Zubimendi

CM
Barella
Bellingham
Camavinga
Enzo Fernandez
Foden
Gavi
Goretzka
Frenkie de Jong
Merino
Milinkovic-Savic
Pedri
Valverde
Verratti

RW/RM
Antony
Chiesa
Coman
Dembele
Gnabry
Kulusevski
Messi
Raphinha
Rodrygo
Saka
Salah

AM/SS
De Bruyne
Bruno Fernandes
Havertz
Maddison
Mount
Musiala
Nkunku
Odegaard
Bernardo Silva
Wirtz

LW/LM
Gakpo
Grealish
Kvaratskhelia
Luis Diaz
Leao
Mane
Martinelli
Neymar
Oyarzabal
Sancho
Sane
Son
Sterling
Vinicius Junior

CF
Gabriel Jesus
Haaland
Kane
Lukaku
Lautaro Martinez
Darwin Nunez
Mbappe
Osimhen
Richarlison
Vlahovic

Past editions
=============

April 2011

GK  Neuer
RD  Bosingwa / Maicon
CD  Vidic
CD  Alex / Carvalho
LD  Cole
DM  Busquets
CM  Xavi
RAM Cristiano Ronaldo / Messi
CAM van der Vaart
LAM Arshavin / Iniesta / Modric / Oezil
ST  Rooney / Tevez

Poll: http://groups.google.com/group/rec.sport.soccer/browse_thread/thread/da4c3cabfed764a0/
Results: http://groups.google.com/group/rec.sport.soccer/browse_thread/thread/2e51b8cade3f4204/

---

January 2012

GK  Neuer
RD  Puyol
CD  Pique
CD  Kompany / Thiago Silva
LD  Lahm
DM  Busquets
CM  Xavi
RAM Messi
CAM Iniesta
LAM Silva
ST  Cristiano Ronaldo

Poll: http://groups.google.com/group/rec.sport.soccer/browse_thread/thread/d3469c85418120d6/
Results: http://groups.google.com/group/rec.sport.soccer/browse_thread/thread/b81e74f03b580578/

---

January 2013

GK  Hart
RD  Lahm
CD  Thiago Silva
CD  Pique
LD  Alba
DM  Busquets
CM  Pirlo / Xavi
RAM Goetze
CAM Messi
LAM Cristiano Ronaldo
ST  Falcao

If one could clone players:
  GK  Hart
  RD  Lahm
  CD  Thiago Silva
  CD  Pique
  LD  Alba
  DM  Busquets
  CM  Pirlo / Xavi
* RAM Cristiano Ronaldo / Goetze
  CAM Messi
  LAM Cristiano Ronaldo
* ST  Messi

Poll: https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/rec.sport.soccer/IoMxsHBSDLY
Results: https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/rec.sport.soccer/-HfLOJx5b7M

---

January 2014

GK  Neuer
RD  Lahm
CD  Thiago Silva
CD  Kompany / Marquinhos / Pique
LD  Alaba
DM  Yaya Toure
CM  Schweinsteiger
RAM Cavani / Thomas Mueller / Silva
CAM Rooney
LAM Bale / Cristiano Ronaldo
ST  Messi / Suarez

If one could clone players:

  GK  Neuer
  RD  Lahm
  CD  Thiago Silva
  CD  Kompany / Marquinhos / Pique
  LD  Alaba
  DM  Yaya Toure
* CM  Schweinsteiger / Yaya Toure
* RAM Cavani / Thomas Mueller / Cristiano Ronaldo / Silva
  CAM Rooney
  LAM Bale / Cristiano Ronaldo
  ST  Messi or Suarez

Poll: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/rec.sport.soccer/f7MMLAiYqMs Results:
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/rec.sport.soccer/iM5KyjH7FBc

---

January 2015

GK  Neuer
RD  Lahm
CD  Boateng
CD  Benatia / Marquinhos / Ramos / Varane
LD  Alaba
DM  Matic
CM  Kroos
RAM Di Maria / Robben
CAM James Rodriguez
LAM Bale / Thomas Mueller / Cristiano Ronaldo
ST  Messi

Poll: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/rec.sport.soccer/e4HnzeR_rRs Results:
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/rec.sport.soccer/K1KY3nz3l8w

Experimental edition:
- Poll:
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/rec.sport.soccer/ZJs16SC50LE
- Results: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/rec.sport.soccer/8AvyguY0ns8

---

January 2016

GK Neuer
RB Lahm
CD Pique
CD Boateng
LB Alaba
WM Bale
CM Iniesta
WM De Bruyne
FW Messi
FW Suarez
FW Neymar

Poll: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/rec.sport.soccer/P5pdR0Uc8yM Results:
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/rec.sport.soccer/o4MWf3MH8kU

---

January 2017

GK    de Gea
RB    Carvajal
CB/SW Bonucci
CB/SW Ramos
LB    Alaba
DM    Kante
CM    Kroos / Modric
RW/LM Messi
AM/SS De Bruyne
LW/LM Cristiano Ronaldo
CF    Suarez

Poll: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/rec.sport.soccer/6UWN6ktrqbM Results:
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/rec.sport.soccer/rpcAwSMM32w

---

January 2018

GK    de Gea
RB    Carvajal / Kimmich
CB/SW Ramos
CB/SW Varane
LB    Marcelo
DM    Kante
CM    Kroos / Modric / Pogba
RW/RM Messi
AM/SS De Bruyne
LW/LM Neymar
CF    Cristiano Ronaldo / Kane

Poll: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/rec.sport.soccer/RTWgAAq1XYU Results:
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/rec.sport.soccer/8fgIJv6B0Bg

---

January 2019

GK    de Gea
RB    Kimmich
CB/SW van Dijk
CB/SW Varane
LB    Marcelo / Mendy
DM    Busquets
CM    Kante
RW/RM Messi
AM/SS De Bruyne
LW/LM Hazard / Cristiano Ronaldo
CF    Kane

Poll: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/rec.sport.soccer/6-4fQUsuu-E Results:
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/rec.sport.soccer/9k-30BqDpfQ

---

February 2020

GK    Alisson
RB    Alexander-Arnold
CB/SW van Dijk
CB/SW de Ligt
LB    Robertson
DM    Casemiro
CM    Kante
RW/RM Messi
AM/SS De Bruyne
LW/LM Mane
CF    Lewandowski

Poll: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/rec.sport.soccer/KyXKA0E-Mz8 Results:
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/rec.sport.soccer/b-ORao8xhng

---

February 2021

GK    Oblak
RB    Alexander-Arnold / Reece James
CB/SW Dias
CB/SW van Dijk
LB    Robertson
DM    Kimmich
CM    Gundogan
RW/RM Bernardo Silva / Messi
AM/SS Bruno Fernades
LW/LM Neymar
CF    Haaland

Poll: https://groups.google.com/g/rec.sport.soccer/c/6YvNwJlZ44o
Results: https://groups.google.com/g/rec.sport.soccer/c/dLO1Kilz7aI

---

January 2022

GK    Donnarumma
RB    Alexander-Arnold
CB/SW Dias
CB/SW van Dijk
LB    Davies
DM    Kimmich
CM    Foden / Pedri
RW/RM Salah
AM/SS De Bruyne
LW/LM Vinicius Junior
CF    Haaland

Poll: https://groups.google.com/g/rec.sport.soccer/c/EbwOunmSrWs
Results: https://groups.google.com/g/rec.sport.soccer/c/mh25Cr1j4Gc

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Cheers
milivella

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MH:

On 2023-01-26 18:42, milivella wrote:

GK

Courtois

Thanks for voting!

Let's check the results after three voters:

GK

2 Courtois
1 Alisson

RB

1 Alexander-Arnold
1 Hakimi
1 Reece James

CB/SW [name at least two]

2 Dias
2 van Dijk
2 Marquinhos
1 Alaba
1 Kimpembe

LB

2 Robertson
1 Davies
1 Theo Hernandez

DM

2 Kimmich
1 Rice
1 Rodri

CM

2 Gavi
2 Pedri
1 Tchouameni

RW/RM

2 Saka
1 Messi

AM/SS

1 Bruno Fernandes
1 De Bruyne
1 Odegard

LW/LM

2 Kvaratskhelia
1 Neymar
1 Vinicius

CF

3 Haaland
2 Mbappe

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milivella

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On Thursday, January 26, 2023 at 8:42:46 PM UTC-5, milivella wrote:

GK
RB
CB/SW [name at least two]
LB
DM
CM
RW/RM
AM/SS
LW/LM
CF

Name, for each position, the player or players who you are most
confident that, provided they are healthy, will be the best in the world
at their position by January 1 *OF NEXT YEAR*.

One reason I did not vote on this (other than the usual excuses about lack of time, inattention, etc.), is that there are *a lot* of these polls, and sometimes it's difficult to tell the difference. What exactly are we voting on here?

Anyway:

GK

Alisson, Donnarumma

RB

Hakimi

CB/SW [name at least two]

Gvardiol, Araujo, Bremer

LB

Davies, Theo Hernandez

DM

Tchouameni, Rice, Rodri, Kimmich

CM

Bellingham, Valverde, Enzo Fernandez

RW/RM

Hmmm...pass

AM/SS

Odegaard, De Bruyne

LW/LM

Mbappe

CF

Haaland, Osimhen

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On 2023-02-14 18:46, milivella wrote:

MH:

On 2023-01-26 18:42, milivella wrote:

GK

Courtois

Thanks for voting!

Let's check the results after three voters:

GK

2 Courtois
1 Alisson

RB

1 Alexander-Arnold

Surprised based on current form that anyone thinks he will be top RB in
the world by this time next year

1 Hakimi

Based on yesterday's game I am no longer so sure ....

1 Reece James

CB/SW [name at least two]

2 Dias

Weird pick given he seems completely out of favour at Man City, whereas
he was the first name on the team sheet a couple of years ago. Also
weird that Pep unceremoniously dumped Cancelo, who was one of his
biggest attacking threats only last year. Has he taken a sudden dislike
to Portugese players, because there are also rumours Silva may be on his
way soon?

2 van Dijk
2 Marquinhos
1 Alaba
1 Kimpembe

LB

2 Robertson
1 Davies

Very conservative for Bayern yesterday compared to his swashbuckling
style for Canada, but he did lend them more attacking edge and asssisted
on the goal

1 Theo Hernandez

DM

2 Kimmich
1 Rice
1 Rodri

Pretty reasonable trio.

CM

2 Gavi
2 Pedri
1 Tchouameni

RW/RM

2 Saka
1 Messi

AM/SS

1 Bruno Fernandes
1 De Bruyne
1 Odegard

LW/LM

2 Kvaratskhelia
1 Neymar
1 Vinicius

CF

3 Haaland
2 Mbappe

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Futbolmetrix:

On Thursday, January 26, 2023 at 8:42:46 PM UTC-5, milivella wrote:

GK
RB
CB/SW [name at least two]
LB
DM
CM
RW/RM
AM/SS
LW/LM
CF

Name, for each position, the player or players who you are most
confident that, provided they are healthy, will be the best in the world
at their position by January 1 *OF NEXT YEAR*.

One reason I did not vote on this (other than the usual excuses about lack of time, inattention, etc.), is that there are *a lot* of these polls, and sometimes it's difficult to tell the difference.

This is an interesting point of view, and it could mean that the
cancellation of this poll will benefit the other polls (I organize two
of them: player of the season once a year, and player of the quadrennium
once every four years).

This said, if I had to choose which poll to save between World Class XI
and Player of the Season, I would save the former. There are famous
awards about the player of the season (even when they were nominally
about the player of the _year_, they were usually actually about the
season anyway) that usually have similar results to our POTS, whereas I
think this is less true of our WCXI. I feel like the FIFA FIFPRO Men's
World 11 and the The Guardian 100 Best Male Footballers in the World are
quite different from our award; also, they were established later, so we
had a longer history! :)

Anyway:

GK

Alisson, Donnarumma

[snip]

Thanks for voting---let's update the unofficial results:

GK

2 Alisson
2 Courtois
1 Donnarumma

RB

2 Hakimi
1 Alexander-Arnold
1 Reece James

CB/SW [name at least two]

2 Dias
2 van Dijk
2 Marquinhos
1 Alaba
1 Araujo
1 Bremer
1 Gvardiol
1 Kimpembe

LB

2 Davies
2 Theo Hernandez
2 Robertson

DM

3 Kimmich
2 Rice
2 Rodri

CM

2 Gavi
2 Pedri
2 Tchouameni
1 Bellingham
1 Enzo Fernandez
1 Valverde

RW/RM

2 Saka
1 Messi

AM/SS

2 De Bruyne
2 Odegard
1 Bruno Fernandes

LW/LM

2 Kvaratskhelia
1 Neymar
1 Vinicius

CF

4 Haaland
3 Mbappe
1 Osimhen

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milivella

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