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  • What are the top women's Leagues in the world?

    From Mark@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jan 13 00:56:02 2023
    We've had a thread about the top men's leagues; why not have one about the top women's leagues too?

    I'm not sure exactly how I'd define top; probably about 90% of it is prestige, I'm not sure what the other 10% is exactly. So feel free to state what your idea is of a top league. And if there is any ambiguity, we'll just settle on the most prestigious
    leagues as that's more clearly defined than 'top'.

    So... USA, France and Germany? Does that sound about right?

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  • From Mark@21:1/5 to Mark on Sun Jan 15 23:36:21 2023
    On Friday, January 13, 2023 at 8:56:04 AM UTC, Mark wrote:
    We've had a thread about the top men's leagues; why not have one about the top women's leagues too?

    I'm not sure exactly how I'd define top; probably about 90% of it is prestige, I'm not sure what the other 10% is exactly. So feel free to state what your idea is of a top league. And if there is any ambiguity, we'll just settle on the most prestigious
    leagues as that's more clearly defined than 'top'.

    So... USA, France and Germany? Does that sound about right?

    Everybody else is as clueless as me about the answer to this question then?

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  • From MH@21:1/5 to Mark on Mon Jan 16 08:17:51 2023
    On 2023-01-16 00:36, Mark wrote:
    On Friday, January 13, 2023 at 8:56:04 AM UTC, Mark wrote:
    We've had a thread about the top men's leagues; why not have one about the top women's leagues too?

    I'm not sure exactly how I'd define top; probably about 90% of it is prestige, I'm not sure what the other 10% is exactly. So feel free to state what your idea is of a top league. And if there is any ambiguity, we'll just settle on the most
    prestigious leagues as that's more clearly defined than 'top'.

    So... USA, France and Germany? Does that sound about right?

    Everybody else is as clueless as me about the answer to this question then?

    For UEFA, the rankings right now go France, Germany, Spain, England.
    Then a big gap to Italy. The only question is where to put the USA in
    there. Pretty hard to argue what the top five would be, but comparison
    across confederations suffers from lack of data.

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  • From Futbolmetrix@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jan 16 08:11:46 2023
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 10:17:54 AM UTC-5, MH wrote:

    For UEFA, the rankings right now go France, Germany, Spain, England.
    Then a big gap to Italy.

    It's difficult to assess the value of the "leagues" as a whole, when: a) we have limited data on inter-league matches involving only the top 2-3 teams in each league; b) in all the 5 leagues you mention, the gap between the top teams and everybody else
    is massive; c) the women's game is growing very rapidly, so that hierarchies are also bound to change.

    Over the last two seasons, Juve has had a perfectly even record against teams from the other Big-5 leagues: 2 wins, 6 draws and 2 defeats. Some of those results were a bit on the lucky side, and I would agree that we are not yet on the level of the true
    European bigs. But I don't think that the gap between the top Serie A teams and the other top-4 is as large as you make it out to be.


    The only question is where to put the USA in
    there. Pretty hard to argue what the top five would be, but comparison across confederations suffers from lack of data.

    A women's Club World Championship, or at least a FIFA-sanctioned clash between the CL winners and the NWSL winners would be a huge draw.

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  • From MH@21:1/5 to Futbolmetrix on Mon Jan 16 10:30:49 2023
    On 2023-01-16 09:11, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 10:17:54 AM UTC-5, MH wrote:

    For UEFA, the rankings right now go France, Germany, Spain, England.
    Then a big gap to Italy.

    It's difficult to assess the value of the "leagues" as a whole, when: a) we have limited data on inter-league matches involving only the top 2-3 teams in each league; b) in all the 5 leagues you mention, the gap between the top teams and everybody else
    is massive; c) the women's game is growing very rapidly, so that hierarchies are also bound to change.

    Over the last two seasons, Juve has had a perfectly even record against teams from the other Big-5 leagues: 2 wins, 6 draws and 2 defeats. Some of those results were a bit on the lucky side, and I would agree that we are not yet on the level of the
    true European bigs. But I don't think that the gap between the top Serie A teams and the other top-4 is as large as you make it out to be.

    I was talking about the gap in the rankings. I have no idea about the
    gap in quality since I don't watch women's club football, and not all
    that much at the national team level either.

    Come to think of it, I don't watch much club football, period, these
    days. EPL and CL used to be on DAZN here, but they lost EPL to some
    other subscription service and I have not bothered to sign up. Regular
    TV (cable) has FA cup occasionally, and Bundesliga, but I have just been
    too busy to bother looking for it.



    The only question is where to put the USA in
    there. Pretty hard to argue what the top five would be, but comparison
    across confederations suffers from lack of data.

    A women's Club World Championship, or at least a FIFA-sanctioned clash between the CL winners and the NWSL winners would be a huge draw.







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  • From Mark@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jan 18 00:10:47 2023
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 5:30:52 PM UTC, MH wrote:

    Come to think of it, I don't watch much club football, period, these
    days. EPL and CL used to be on DAZN here, but they lost EPL to some
    other subscription service and I have not bothered to sign up. Regular
    TV (cable) has FA cup occasionally, and Bundesliga, but I have just been
    too busy to bother looking for it.

    I can recommend the Argentinian and Brazilian Leagues in men's football, and the Copa Libertadores. And the NWSL in women's football. You should be able to find all of them online.

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