Consider the 4 years since the day *after* France won the WC up to today.

1. In your opinion, who has been in this timeframe the best player in
each of the following positions?
- Goalkeeper

Courtois, Oblak

- Defender

van Dijk

- Midfielder

De Bruyne

- Forward

Lewandowski, Messi

2. Among the players you have just named, who has been the best player overall?

van Dijk, De Bruyne, Lewandowski, Messi

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Consider the 4 years since the day *after* France won the WC up to today.

1. In your opinion, who has been in this timeframe the best player in
each of the following positions?
- Goalkeeper
- Defender
- Midfielder
- Forward

2. Among the players you have just named, who has been the best player
overall?

Rules are pretty simple:
- In each category, you can vote for more than a player (e.g. three best goalkeepers, or two best players overall), and each of them will in any
case get one point. Similarly, you can vote for the same player in more
than one position, and he will get one point in each position.
- Deadline: December 27, 23:59 GMT.



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Past winners:

Goalkeeper
1 Casillas (10)
1 Julio Cesar (10)
1 Neuer (14)
1 de Gea (18)

Defender
1 Maicon (10)
1 Lahm (14)
1 Marcelo (18)

Midfielder
1 Xavi (10)
1 Iniesta (14)
1 Kante (18)
1 Modric (18)

Forward
2 Cristiano Ronaldo (10,18)
1 Messi (14)

Overall
2 Messi (10,14)
1 Xavi (10)
1 Cristiano Ronaldo (18)

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Past editions:

2006-10

Goalkeeper: Casillas, Julio Cesar
Defender: Maicon
Midfielder: Xavi
Forward: Cristiano Ronaldo
Overall: Messi, Xavi

Poll: http://groups.google.com/group/rec.sport.soccer/browse_thread/thread/93b167ef7189dc82#
Results: http://groups.google.com/group/rec.sport.soccer/browse_thread/thread/83c3309a5f36b356#

2010-14

Goalkeeper: Neuer
Defender: Lahm
Midfielder: Iniesta
Forward: Messi
Overall: Messi

Poll: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/rec.sport.soccer/3byhlDPBONo Results:
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/rec.sport.soccer/S5DSo23y5eM

2014-18

Goalkeeper: de Gea
Defender: Marcelo
Midf

On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 4:01:59 AM UTC+2, milivella wrote:

Consider the 4 years since the day *after* France won the WC up to today.

1. In your opinion, who has been in this timeframe the best player in
each of the following positions?
- Goalkeeper

Donnarumma
Neuer
Alisson
Martinez

- Defender

Van Dijk
Varane
Chiellini
Alexander Arnold

- Midfielder

De Bruyne
Casemiro
Modric

- Forward

Salah
Lewandowski
Messi
Kane

2. Among the players you have just named, who has been the best player overall?

Rules are pretty simple:
- In each category, you can vote for more than a player (e.g. three best goalkeepers, or two best players overall), and each of them will in any
case get one point. Similarly, you can vote for the same player in more
than one position, and he will get one point in each position.
- Deadline: December 27, 23:59 GMT.

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Past winners:

Goalkeeper
1 Casillas (10)
1 Julio Cesar (10)
1 Neuer (14)
1 de Gea (18)

Defender
1 Maicon (10)
1 Lahm (14)
1 Marcelo (18)

Midfielder
1 Xavi (10)
1 Iniesta (14)
1 Kante (18)
1 Modric (18)

Forward
2 Cristiano Ronaldo (10,18)
1 Messi (14)

Overall
2 Messi (10,14)
1 Xavi (10)
1 Cristiano Ronaldo (18)

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Past editions:

2006-10

Goalkeeper: Casillas, Julio Cesar
Defender: Maicon
Midfielder: Xavi
Forward: Cristiano Ronaldo
Overall: Messi, Xavi

Poll: http://groups.google.com/group/rec.sport.soccer/browse_thread/thread/93b167ef7189dc82#
Results: http://groups.google.com/group/rec.sport.soccer/browse_thread/thread/83c3309a5f36b356#

2010-14

Goalkeeper: Neuer
Defender: Lahm
Midfielder: Iniesta
Forward: Messi
Overall: Messi

Poll: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/rec.sport.soccer/3byhlDPBONo Results:
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/rec.sport.soccer/S5DSo23y5eM

2014-18

Goalkeeper: de Gea
Defender: Marcelo
Midfielder: Kante, Modric
Forward: Cristiano Ronaldo
Player: Cristiano Ronaldo

Poll: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/rec.sport.soccer/3QMBfWrn4_k Results: https://groups.google.com/g/rec.sport.soccer/c/EQSv_V4UkaI/m/9jKvz7miCAAJ

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Possibly useful info: RSS Players of the Season and World Class XI's in
this timeframe

Player of the season

2018-19
Goalkeeper: Alisson
Defender: van Dijk
Midfielder: Hazard
Forward: Messi
Player: van Dijk

2019-20
Goalkeeper: Neuer
Defender: van Dijk
Midfielder: De Bruyne
Forward: Lewandowski
Player: Lewandowski

2020-21
Goalkeeper: Oblak
Defender: Ruben Dias
Midfielder: Kante
Forward: Lewandowski
Player: Ruben Dias

2021-22
Goalkeeper: Courtois
Defender: Alaba, Cancelo, Ruediger
Midfielder: De Bruyne
Forward: Benzema
Player: Benzema

World Class XI

January 2019
GK de Gea
RB Kimmich
CB/SW van Dijk
CB/SW Varane
LB Marcelo / Mendy
DM Busquets
CM Kante
RW/RM Messi
AM/SS De Bruyne
LW/LM Hazard / Cristiano Ronaldo
CF Kane

February 2020
GK Alisson
RB Alexander-Arnold
CB/SW van Dijk
CB/SW de Ligt
LB Robertson
DM Casemiro
CM Kante
RW/RM Messi
AM/SS De Bruyne
LW/LM Mane
CF Lewandowski

February 2021
GK Oblak
RB Alexander-Arnold / Reece James
CB/SW Dias
CB/SW van Dijk
LB Robertson
DM Kimmich
CM Gundogan
RW/RM Bernardo Silva / Messi
AM/SS Bruno Fernades
LW/LM Neymar
CF Haaland

January 2022
GK Donnarumma
RB Alexander-Arnold
CB/SW Dias
CB/SW van Dijk
LB Davies
DM Kimmich
CM Foden / Pedri
RW/RM Salah
AM/SS De Bruyne
LW/LM Vinicius Junior
CF Haaland

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On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 6:37:02 PM UTC+2, Futbolmetrix wrote:

On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 4:01:59 AM UTC+2, milivella wrote:

Consider the 4 years since the day *after* France won the WC up to today.

1. In your opinion, who has been in this timeframe the best player in
each of the following positions?
- Goalkeeper

Donnarumma
Neuer
Alisson
Martinez

- Defender

Van Dijk
Varane
Chiellini
Alexander Arnold

- Midfielder

De Bruyne
Casemiro
Modric

- Forward

Salah
Lewandowski
Messi
Kane

Mbappe, duh!

2. Among the players you have just named, who has been the best player overall?

Mbappe

Rules are pretty simple:
- In each category, you can vote for more than a player (e.g. three best goalkeepers, or two best players overall), and each of them will in any case get one point. Similarly, you can vote for the same player in more than one position, and he will get one point in each position.
- Deadline: December 27, 23:59 GMT.

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Past winners:

Goalkeeper
1 Casillas (10)
1 Julio Cesar (10)
1 Neuer (14)
1 de Gea (18)

Defender
1 Maicon (10)
1 Lahm (14)
1 Marcelo (18)

Midfielder
1 Xavi (10)
1 Iniesta (14)
1 Kante (18)
1 Modric (18)

Forward
2 Cristiano Ronaldo (10,18)
1 Messi (14)

Overall
2 Messi (10,14)
1 Xavi (10)
1 Cristiano Ronaldo (18)

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Past editions:

2006-10

Goalkeeper: Casillas, Julio Cesar
Defender: Maicon
Midfielder: Xavi
Forward: Cristiano Ronaldo
Overall: Messi, Xavi

Poll: http://groups.google.com/group/rec.sport.soccer/browse_thread/thread/93b167ef7189dc82#
Results: http://groups.google.com/group/rec.sport.soccer/browse_thread/thread/83c3309a5f36b356#

2010-14

Goalkeeper: Neuer
Defender: Lahm
Midfielder: Iniesta
Forward: Messi
Overall: Messi

Poll: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/rec.sport.soccer/3byhlDPBONo Results: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/rec.sport.soccer/S5DSo23y5eM

2014-18

Goalkeeper: de Gea
Defender: Marcelo
Midfielder: Kante, Modric
Forward: Cristiano Ronaldo
Player: Cristiano Ronaldo

Poll: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/rec.sport.soccer/3QMBfWrn4_k Results: https://groups.google.com/g/rec.sport.soccer/c/EQSv_V4UkaI/m/9jKvz7miCAAJ

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Possibly useful info: RSS Players of the Season and World Class XI's in this timeframe

Player of the season

2018-19
Goalkeeper: Alisson
Defender: van Dijk
Midfielder: Hazard
Forward: Messi
Player: van Dijk

2019-20
Goalkeeper: Neuer
Defender: van Dijk
Midfielder: De Bruyne
Forward: Lewandowski
Player: Lewandowski

2020-21
Goalkeeper: Oblak
Defender: Ruben Dias
Midfielder: Kante
Forward: Lewandowski
Player: Ruben Dias

2021-22
Goalkeeper: Courtois
Defender: Alaba, Cancelo, Ruediger
Midfielder: De Bruyne
Forward: Benzema
Player: Benzema

World Class XI

January 2019
GK de Gea
RB Kimmich
CB/SW van Dijk
CB/SW Varane
LB Marcelo / Mendy
DM Busquets
CM Kante
RW/RM Messi
AM/SS De Bruyne
LW/LM Hazard / Cristiano Ronaldo
CF Kane

February 2020
GK Alisson
RB Alexander-Arnold
CB/SW van Dijk
CB/SW de Ligt
LB Robertson
DM Casemiro
CM Kante
RW/RM Messi
AM/SS De Bruyne
LW/LM Mane
CF Lewandowski

February 2021
GK Oblak
RB Alexander-Arnold / Reece James
CB/SW Dias
CB/SW van Dijk
LB Robertson
DM Kimmich
CM Gundogan
RW/RM Bernardo Silva / Messi
AM/SS Bruno Fernades
LW/LM Neymar
CF Haaland

January 2022
GK Donnarumma
RB Alexander-Arnold
CB/SW Dias
CB/SW van Dijk
LB Davies
DM Kimmich
CM Foden / Pedri
RW/RM Salah
AM/SS De Bruyne
LW/LM Vinicius Junior
CF Haaland

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milivella

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Futbolmetrix:

- Defender

Van Dijk
Varane
Chiellini
Alexander Arnold

Apart from the token Juventus vote, all picks of mine?! I would be
elated... if I wouldn't know what you think of defenders (= they have
the easiest job in the universe). :)

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