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  • WC 2022 Match Day 13 GHA-URU KOR-POR CAM-BRA SRB-SUI [R]

    From Futbolmetrix@21:1/5 to All on Fri Dec 2 07:28:57 2022
    Ghana just not very good at converting penalties against Uruguay, are they?

    And now De Arrascaeta puts Uruguay ahead. Almost a Luis Suarez goal. Ghana defense a bit shaky. OK, make that very shaky.

    Elsewhere: KOR-POR 1-1

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  • From Werner Pichler@21:1/5 to Futbolmetrix on Fri Dec 2 07:31:23 2022
    On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 4:29:00 PM UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    Ghana just not very good at converting penalties against Uruguay, are they?

    And now De Arrascaeta puts Uruguay ahead. Almost a Luis Suarez goal. Ghana defense a bit shaky. OK, make that very shaky.

    Elsewhere: KOR-POR 1-1

    C-Ron quite cowardly turning away from that corner provided the perfect assist for Kim.

    Ciao,
    Werner

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  • From Futbolmetrix@21:1/5 to Werner Pichler on Fri Dec 2 07:33:46 2022
    On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 10:31:25 AM UTC-5, Werner Pichler wrote:

    C-Ron quite cowardly turning away from that corner provided the perfect assist for Kim.

    Which Kim?

    De Arrascaeta with the second for Uruguay. Another assist for Suarez. Great finish.

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  • From Werner Pichler@21:1/5 to Futbolmetrix on Fri Dec 2 07:41:01 2022
    On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 4:33:48 PM UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 10:31:25 AM UTC-5, Werner Pichler wrote:

    C-Ron quite cowardly turning away from that corner provided the perfect assist for Kim.

    Which Kim?

    How would I know?

    De Arrascaeta with the second for Uruguay. Another assist for Suarez. Great finish.

    Along with Richarlison's the most beautiful goal of the tournament so far.

    Ciao,
    Werner

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  • From vedran@21:1/5 to Werner Pichler on Fri Dec 2 17:00:04 2022
    On 2.12.2022. 16:41, Werner Pichler wrote:

    Along with Richarlison's the most beautiful goal of the tournament so far.


    Aboubakar too.

    It's unlikely now that Portugal will lose first place in a group,
    Portugal - Serbia in R16 would be entertaining, given what happened in
    the last 2 matches (disallowed CR's goal, Mitrovic's late goal).

    I won't bore with non-football perspective now.

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  • From Futbolmetrix@21:1/5 to Werner Pichler on Fri Dec 2 07:59:59 2022
    On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 10:41:03 AM UTC-5, Werner Pichler wrote:

    Which Kim?
    How would I know?

    Korea now just one goal away from qualifying. Poetic justice for Ghana would be:

    Korea-Portugal 2-1
    Ghana - Uruguay 0-3 entering the final minute, and Ghana scoring a meaningless consolation goal that sends La Celeste home.

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  • From Al Kamista@21:1/5 to Futbolmetrix on Fri Dec 2 08:17:37 2022
    On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 11:00:01 AM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 10:41:03 AM UTC-5, Werner Pichler wrote:

    Which Kim?
    How would I know?
    Korea now just one goal away from qualifying. Poetic justice for Ghana would be:

    Korea-Portugal 2-1
    Ghana - Uruguay 0-3 entering the final minute, and Ghana scoring a meaningless consolation goal that sends La Celeste home.

    I think Ghana making it 1-2 would also send Uruguay home (assuming Korea win of course).

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  • From Al Kamista@21:1/5 to Futbolmetrix on Fri Dec 2 08:26:18 2022
    On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 10:29:00 AM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    Ghana just not very good at converting penalties against Uruguay, are they?

    And now De Arrascaeta puts Uruguay ahead. Almost a Luis Suarez goal. Ghana defense a bit shaky. OK, make that very shaky.

    Elsewhere: KOR-POR 1-1

    if anyone needed reminding of how ego-driven Ronaldo is -

    Portugal rests 8 players for today's game, but the second oldest player doesn't get a rest, so he can keep padding his statistics. It would be hilarious if he got injured.

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  • From Werner Pichler@21:1/5 to alka...@hotmail.com on Fri Dec 2 08:57:22 2022
    On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 5:17:38 PM UTC+1, alka...@hotmail.com wrote:
    On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 11:00:01 AM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 10:41:03 AM UTC-5, Werner Pichler wrote:

    Which Kim?
    How would I know?
    Korea now just one goal away from qualifying. Poetic justice for Ghana would be:

    Korea-Portugal 2-1
    Ghana - Uruguay 0-3 entering the final minute, and Ghana scoring a meaningless consolation goal that sends La Celeste home.

    I think Ghana making it 1-2 would also send Uruguay home (assuming Korea win of course).

    OK all we need now is a Ghanaian defender preventing a surefire Uru goal with a handball...

    Ciao,
    Werner

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  • From Futbolmetrix@21:1/5 to Werner Pichler on Fri Dec 2 09:09:34 2022
    On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 11:57:24 AM UTC-5, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 5:17:38 PM UTC+1, alka...@hotmail.com wrote:
    On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 11:00:01 AM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 10:41:03 AM UTC-5, Werner Pichler wrote:

    Which Kim?
    How would I know?
    Korea now just one goal away from qualifying. Poetic justice for Ghana would be:

    Korea-Portugal 2-1
    Ghana - Uruguay 0-3 entering the final minute, and Ghana scoring a meaningless consolation goal that sends La Celeste home.

    I think Ghana making it 1-2 would also send Uruguay home (assuming Korea win of course).
    OK all we need now is a Ghanaian defender preventing a surefire Uru goal with a handball...


    Korea! Home confederation advantage!

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  • From Futbolmetrix@21:1/5 to Futbolmetrix on Fri Dec 2 09:19:35 2022
    On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 12:09:36 PM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:

    Korea! Home confederation advantage!

    OK, now we need Vedran to give us a live account of the Serbia-Kosovo clash for the final qualifying spot.

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  • From vedran@21:1/5 to Futbolmetrix on Fri Dec 2 18:52:21 2022
    On 2.12.2022. 18:19, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 12:09:36 PM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:

    Korea! Home confederation advantage!

    OK, now we need Vedran to give us a live account of the Serbia-Kosovo clash for the final qualifying spot.


    Mitrovic will score, most likely in 80+ minute, if he can still breathe
    by then.
    If that's gonna be a decider or a consolation goal, I don't know.
    Lineups just announced, Vlahovic plays with him upfront, Kobel instead
    of Sommer for Swiss.

    But I can't help to think about Japan - South Korea QF, since
    Croatia - Serbia won't happen.

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  • From vedran@21:1/5 to vedran on Fri Dec 2 19:11:03 2022
    On 2.12.2022. 18:52, vedran wrote:

    Lineups just announced, Vlahovic plays with him upfront, Kobel instead
    of Sommer for Swiss.

    Brazil with B team, Serbs afraid Cameroon will win, but no way
    Brazil would want Portugal, Spain over South Korea, Croatia/Japan.

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  • From HASM@21:1/5 to Al Kamista on Fri Dec 2 09:33:25 2022
    Al Kamista <alkamista@hotmail.com> writes:

    Portugal rests 8 players for today's game, but the second oldest
    player doesn't get a rest

    The way he's been playing does he really need a rest?

    -- HASM

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  • From Futbolmetrix@21:1/5 to Futbolmetrix on Fri Dec 2 11:36:37 2022
    On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 2:34:23 PM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:

    1-1, after Shaqiri had put Kosovo ahead a few minutes earlier. He didn't dare do the bird celebration right under the Serbian fans' nose.

    I have a hunch that this match will see the first non-goalkeeper red card of the WC.

    Vlahovic, 2-1! Juve!

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  • From Futbolmetrix@21:1/5 to vedran on Fri Dec 2 11:34:21 2022
    On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 12:52:29 PM UTC-5, vedran wrote:
    On 2.12.2022. 18:19, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 12:09:36 PM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:

    Korea! Home confederation advantage!

    OK, now we need Vedran to give us a live account of the Serbia-Kosovo clash for the final qualifying spot.

    Mitrovic will score, most likely in 80+ minute, if he can still breathe
    by then.

    Good call.
    1-1, after Shaqiri had put Kosovo ahead a few minutes earlier. He didn't dare do the bird celebration right under the Serbian fans' nose.

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  • From Werner Pichler@21:1/5 to Futbolmetrix on Fri Dec 2 11:47:09 2022
    On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 8:36:39 PM UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 2:34:23 PM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:

    1-1, after Shaqiri had put Kosovo ahead a few minutes earlier. He didn't dare do the bird celebration right under the Serbian fans' nose.
    I have a hunch that this match will see the first non-goalkeeper red card of the WC.

    Vlahovic, 2-1! Juve!

    For all their Eurocroto reputation, the Swiss have been involved in a couple of very entertaining tournament matches lately.

    Ciao,
    Werner

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  • From vedran@21:1/5 to Futbolmetrix on Fri Dec 2 20:46:59 2022
    On 2.12.2022. 20:36, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 2:34:23 PM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:

    1-1, after Shaqiri had put Kosovo ahead a few minutes earlier. He didn't dare do the bird celebration right under the Serbian fans' nose.

    I have a hunch that this match will see the first non-goalkeeper red card of the WC.

    Vlahovic, 2-1! Juve!



    2-2
    Not biased, but it feels like Swiss gave away 2 cheap goals.

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  • From Futbolmetrix@21:1/5 to Futbolmetrix on Fri Dec 2 11:48:09 2022
    On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 2:36:39 PM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 2:34:23 PM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:

    1-1, after Shaqiri had put Kosovo ahead a few minutes earlier. He didn't dare do the bird celebration right under the Serbian fans' nose.
    I have a hunch that this match will see the first non-goalkeeper red card of the WC.

    Vlahovic, 2-1! Juve!

    Embolo makes it 2-2. Cameroon no longer bottom of the group.

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  • From Werner Pichler@21:1/5 to vedran on Fri Dec 2 11:49:37 2022
    On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 8:47:03 PM UTC+1, vedran wrote:
    On 2.12.2022. 20:36, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 2:34:23 PM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:

    1-1, after Shaqiri had put Kosovo ahead a few minutes earlier. He didn't dare do the bird celebration right under the Serbian fans' nose.

    I have a hunch that this match will see the first non-goalkeeper red card of the WC.

    Vlahovic, 2-1! Juve!


    2-2
    Not biased, but it feels like Swiss gave away 2 cheap goals.

    The Serbians probably feel the same.

    Ciao,
    Werner

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  • From Futbolmetrix@21:1/5 to Werner Pichler on Fri Dec 2 12:03:02 2022
    On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 2:47:11 PM UTC-5, Werner Pichler wrote:

    For all their Eurocroto reputation, the Swiss have been involved in a couple of very entertaining tournament matches lately.


    Which ones?

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  • From Futbolmetrix@21:1/5 to vedran on Fri Dec 2 11:50:01 2022
    On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 2:47:03 PM UTC-5, vedran wrote:

    2-2
    Not biased, but it feels like Swiss gave away 2 cheap goals.

    Serbiam defense not exactly an iron curtain either.

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  • From vedran@21:1/5 to Werner Pichler on Fri Dec 2 21:04:19 2022
    On 2.12.2022. 20:49, Werner Pichler wrote:

    2-2
    Not biased, but it feels like Swiss gave away 2 cheap goals.

    The Serbians probably feel the same.

    OK, OK... I'm biased :)

    Not watching second match, surprised it's still 0:0, judging by stats
    (Brazil 69% possession), doesn't smell on upset.

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  • From Futbolmetrix@21:1/5 to vedran on Fri Dec 2 12:10:30 2022
    On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 3:04:23 PM UTC-5, vedran wrote:
    On 2.12.2022. 20:49, Werner Pichler wrote:

    2-2
    Not biased, but it feels like Swiss gave away 2 cheap goals.

    The Serbians probably feel the same.
    OK, OK... I'm biased :)

    Not watching second match, surprised it's still 0:0, judging by stats
    (Brazil 69% possession), doesn't smell on upset.

    More champagne football from Switzerland! (Or should we say more chocolate football?) Freuler, 3-2

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  • From vedran@21:1/5 to Futbolmetrix on Fri Dec 2 21:53:52 2022
    On 2.12.2022. 21:10, Futbolmetrix wrote:


    More champagne football from Switzerland! (Or should we say more chocolate football?) Freuler, 3-2



    Cameroon scored, if Swiss do it, Brazil is 2nd.

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  • From Futbolmetrix@21:1/5 to vedran on Fri Dec 2 12:57:47 2022
    On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 3:53:56 PM UTC-5, vedran wrote:
    On 2.12.2022. 21:10, Futbolmetrix wrote:


    More champagne football from Switzerland! (Or should we say more chocolate football?) Freuler, 3-2

    Cameroon scored, if Swiss do it, Brazil is 2nd.

    Hmm...

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  • From Futbolmetrix@21:1/5 to Futbolmetrix on Fri Dec 2 13:02:25 2022
    On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 3:57:49 PM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 3:53:56 PM UTC-5, vedran wrote:
    On 2.12.2022. 21:10, Futbolmetrix wrote:


    More champagne football from Switzerland! (Or should we say more chocolate football?) Freuler, 3-2

    Cameroon scored, if Swiss do it, Brazil is 2nd.
    Hmm...

    But a Serb goal would not be enough to see Cameroon through.

    All over now. Brazil first, Switzerland 2nd.
    No team finishes the group stage with 3 wins.

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  • From Werner Pichler@21:1/5 to Futbolmetrix on Fri Dec 2 12:34:32 2022
    On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 9:03:04 PM UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 2:47:11 PM UTC-5, Werner Pichler wrote:

    For all their Eurocroto reputation, the Swiss have been involved in a couple of very entertaining tournament matches lately.

    Which ones?

    OK I was mostly thinking of the France match at the Euros.
    They had a couple of good ones in the Nations League, too, e.g. against Germany.

    Ciao,
    Werner

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  • From Werner Pichler@21:1/5 to Futbolmetrix on Fri Dec 2 13:03:46 2022
    On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 10:02:28 PM UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 3:57:49 PM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 3:53:56 PM UTC-5, vedran wrote:
    On 2.12.2022. 21:10, Futbolmetrix wrote:


    More champagne football from Switzerland! (Or should we say more chocolate football?) Freuler, 3-2

    Cameroon scored, if Swiss do it, Brazil is 2nd.
    Hmm...
    But a Serb goal would not be enough to see Cameroon through.

    All over now. Brazil first, Switzerland 2nd.
    No team finishes the group stage with 3 wins.

    Also none with a clean sheet.

    Switzerland should have gone for the fourth more aggressively.

    Ciao,
    Werner

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  • From vedran@21:1/5 to Futbolmetrix on Fri Dec 2 22:08:56 2022
    On 2.12.2022. 21:57, Futbolmetrix wrote:

    Cameroon scored, if Swiss do it, Brazil is 2nd.

    Hmm...



    Didn't happen, but still happy outcome, South Korea will take care of
    Brazil anyway.

    Serbia is in a good company with Germany with back to back elimination
    in a group. It's hard to explain how much hype there was about them.
    If they won the World Cup, it must be some record since they
    did it in only 3 matches.

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  • From FF@21:1/5 to All on Fri Dec 2 13:30:30 2022
    Looks like it's become fashionable at this WCup that the favorite loses in the last day to an underdog. Even Brazil and France did it.
    Still, in the end things got arranged pretty well. Most favorites came through, except Germany and Belgium. (Who weren't that strong favorites in the first place; Germany has failed to impress after they won it 8 years ago, and Belgium, nobody expected
    them to do great thigs this Cup, even if they played the semis last time.) Spain didn't win the group but that was probably on purpose.
    In the KO phase we should see much fewer surprises.

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  • From vedran@21:1/5 to vedran on Fri Dec 2 22:15:26 2022
    On 2.12.2022. 22:08, vedran wrote:

    in a group. It's hard to explain how much hype there was about them.


    They will probably easily qualify for EURO and there is Nations League A
    for them, chance to improve and do something on the next EURO, but this
    will hurt considering all the expectations and "we must get the
    revenge" in the last match.

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  • From Real Mardin@21:1/5 to vedran on Tue Dec 6 08:22:49 2022
    On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 4:17:06 PM UTC, vedran wrote:
    Dragan Stojkovic held an interesting press conference yesterday,
    trying to justify the failure https://www.b92.net/sport/qatar2022/vesti.php?yyyy=2022&mm=12&dd=05&nav_id=2254088

    Out of many pearls he said I'll pick these:

    "it was a big success which we will be aware of in 10-15 years"

    Was this the first steps in a very carefully crafted plan to win Euro 2032?


    RM


    "if the matches lasted 65 minutes we'd be first in a group"

    "we lost in term of result, but didn't get defeated"

    "Serbia will be strong again"
    (last time I remember Serbia being strong was under a different name)

    He is convinced injuries determined a result and that's fine, I can sympathize here,
    we don't have much depth in a squad.
    People commented how arrogant he was, but I thought he'd be even more arrogant,
    he didn't want to comment anything not related to football, his swearing
    in Switzerland match, for example.
    It seems he lost a lot of support after this conference, but it's a good thing
    he'll stay, so that we can see if his promises for future will be fulfilled. And it will be fun, no doubt.

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  • From vedran@21:1/5 to All on Tue Dec 6 17:17:02 2022
    Dragan Stojkovic held an interesting press conference yesterday,
    trying to justify the failure https://www.b92.net/sport/qatar2022/vesti.php?yyyy=2022&mm=12&dd=05&nav_id=2254088

    Out of many pearls he said I'll pick these:

    "it was a big success which we will be aware of in 10-15 years"

    "if the matches lasted 65 minutes we'd be first in a group"

    "we lost in term of result, but didn't get defeated"

    "Serbia will be strong again"
    (last time I remember Serbia being strong was under a different name)

    He is convinced injuries determined a result and that's fine, I can
    sympathize here,
    we don't have much depth in a squad.
    People commented how arrogant he was, but I thought he'd be even more
    arrogant,
    he didn't want to comment anything not related to football, his swearing
    in Switzerland match, for example.
    It seems he lost a lot of support after this conference, but it's a good
    thing
    he'll stay, so that we can see if his promises for future will be fulfilled. And it will be fun, no doubt.

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  • From vedran@21:1/5 to Real Mardin on Tue Dec 6 17:33:20 2022
    On 6.12.2022. 17:22, Real Mardin wrote:

    Was this the first steps in a very carefully crafted plan to win Euro 2032?

    That would be a miracle since managers in Serbia get changed like socks,
    they even sacked Muslin right after he qualified them for WC 2018.

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