On 2024-07-05 13:33, Mark wrote:
Why does only the Final of the Copa America (and some other tournaments
in South America) go into extra time if it's a draw?
(Watch this match be won by a 3 or 4 goal margin now I've chosen this
post to ask that question in!)
Anyone watch this ?
I did. It was exciting, not always in a good way. High tempo, chaotic,
full of errors and also some fine play. Venezuela more accomplished on
the ball in general (especially Martínez and Soteldo), but we actually
had more really good chances and should have won the game comfortably. Schaffelburg scored a nice early goal, and David, Laryea and
Schaffelburg himself should have added to it. Equalizer came in the
second have on a lob from Rondon from nearly halfway, after Canada
committed too many players forward for a throw-in, and Bombito,
otherwise quite good, messed up defending against ROndon (Crepeau way
too far out of his goal too). After that it was heart in the mouth
stuff, with Venezuela more on top, but Millar and Tani missing good
chances.
Went to penalties, and was 3-3 after the teams mirrored each others'
efforts (2nd and 4th missed - in our case Millar and Eustaquio). Sixth Venezuelan had his weak shot saved, and Ismael Kone scored his
convincingly.
On to a rematch with Argentina on Tuesday. I expect us to get slaughtered.
Why does only the Final of the Copa America (and some other tournaments
in South America) go into extra time if it's a draw?
(Watch this match be won by a 3 or 4 goal margin now I've chosen this
post to ask that question in!)
On 06/07/2024 00:35, MH wrote:
On 2024-07-05 21:25, MH wrote:
On 2024-07-05 13:33, Mark wrote:
Why does only the Final of the Copa America (and some other tournaments >>>> in South America) go into extra time if it's a draw?
(Watch this match be won by a 3 or 4 goal margin now I've chosen this
post to ask that question in!)
Anyone watch this ?
I did.
I did. It was exciting, not always in a good way. High tempo,
chaotic, full of errors and also some fine play. Venezuela more
accomplished on the ball in general (especially Martínez and
Soteldo), but we actually had more really good chances and should
have won the game comfortably. Schaffelburg scored a nice early goal,
and David, Laryea and Schaffelburg himself should have added to it.
Indeed. At times I was reminded of Canada in WC'2022, which knew the way towards the opposing goal, but could not get the ball into the net. A
little better finishing and it could have been 2-0 or 3-0 at some point.
Equalizer came in the second have on a lob from Rondon from nearly
halfway, after Canada committed too many players forward for a
throw-in, and Bombito, otherwise quite good, messed up defending
against ROndon (Crepeau way too far out of his goal too). After that
it was heart in the mouth stuff, with Venezuela more on top, but
Millar and Tani missing good chances.
Went to penalties, and was 3-3 after the teams mirrored each others'
efforts (2nd and 4th missed - in our case Millar and Eustaquio).
Sixth Venezuelan had his weak shot saved, and Ismael Kone scored his
convincingly.
On to a rematch with Argentina on Tuesday. I expect us to get
slaughtered.
I don't think it'll come down to a slaughter, though yeah, they are
heavy favorites for this one.
Should add that it has been great for Canada to play in this
tournament - which we nearly missed out on through our overconfidence
and collapse vs. Jamaica. It has given Marsch a chance to get to know
the players in competitive matches, and establish his system.
Under him we have played three very good teams (Netherlands, France
and Argentina) and will play the latter again, and three solid teams
(Peru, Chile and Venezuela) and mostly held our own. Sure, Venezuela
are actually ranked below us (though they have looked pretty good in
this tournament), and Chile and Peru are currently out of a WC
qualifying or playoff place, but this is still stiff opposition.
Crepeau, Johnston, Cornelius, Bombito, and Schaffelburg have been good.
Eustaquio and David have not been up to their usual high standard.
Davies has been remarkably subdued. Shame that Buchananan broke his
leg, as he was looking sharp vs. Chile.
At the risk of sounding obvious, of the three hosts of WC'2026, Canada
was the one that made the best "use" of this Copa America, from the
viewpoint of preparing to the World Cup.
defeat to Panama, but didn't show anything encouraging, while Mexico was simply really poor.
Refereeing erratic and a buit biased in this last game.
My impression too, and that of some people who watched the game over
here. Brazilian referees might be the worst among the bigger football
nations - and that probably remains true if you include most of the
smaller ones as well.
Best regards,
Lléo
On 2024-07-05 23:15, Lléo wrote:
On 06/07/2024 00:35, MH wrote:
On 2024-07-05 21:25, MH wrote:
On 2024-07-05 13:33, Mark wrote:
Why does only the Final of the Copa America (and some other
tournaments
in South America) go into extra time if it's a draw?
(Watch this match be won by a 3 or 4 goal margin now I've chosen this >>>>> post to ask that question in!)
Anyone watch this ?
I did.
I did. It was exciting, not always in a good way. High tempo,
chaotic, full of errors and also some fine play. Venezuela more
accomplished on the ball in general (especially Martínez and
Soteldo), but we actually had more really good chances and should
have won the game comfortably. Schaffelburg scored a nice early
goal, and David, Laryea and Schaffelburg himself should have added
to it.
Indeed. At times I was reminded of Canada in WC'2022, which knew the
way towards the opposing goal, but could not get the ball into the
net. A little better finishing and it could have been 2-0 or 3-0 at
some point.
Equalizer came in the second have on a lob from Rondon from nearly
halfway, after Canada committed too many players forward for a
throw-in, and Bombito, otherwise quite good, messed up defending
against ROndon (Crepeau way too far out of his goal too). After
that it was heart in the mouth stuff, with Venezuela more on top,
but Millar and Tani missing good chances.
Went to penalties, and was 3-3 after the teams mirrored each others'
efforts (2nd and 4th missed - in our case Millar and Eustaquio).
Sixth Venezuelan had his weak shot saved, and Ismael Kone scored his
convincingly.
On to a rematch with Argentina on Tuesday. I expect us to get
slaughtered.
I don't think it'll come down to a slaughter, though yeah, they are
heavy favorites for this one.
Should add that it has been great for Canada to play in this
tournament - which we nearly missed out on through our overconfidence
and collapse vs. Jamaica. It has given Marsch a chance to get to
know the players in competitive matches, and establish his system.
Under him we have played three very good teams (Netherlands, France
and Argentina) and will play the latter again, and three solid teams
(Peru, Chile and Venezuela) and mostly held our own. Sure, Venezuela
are actually ranked below us (though they have looked pretty good in
this tournament), and Chile and Peru are currently out of a WC
qualifying or playoff place, but this is still stiff opposition.
Crepeau, Johnston, Cornelius, Bombito, and Schaffelburg have been good.
Eustaquio and David have not been up to their usual high standard.
Davies has been remarkably subdued. Shame that Buchananan broke his
leg, as he was looking sharp vs. Chile.
At the risk of sounding obvious, of the three hosts of WC'2026, Canada
was the one that made the best "use" of this Copa America, from the
viewpoint of preparing to the World Cup.
Another way of looking at it might be to say that Mexico and the USA
might actually get a lot out of this. For the USA in particular, it
might motivate them to ditch Berhalter and to stop considering players
like Pulisic, McKennie, Reyna, Adams and the like to be international
class players. They have couple of years to adjust, and a large pool of decent players (both in MLS and abroad) to choose from and to mould into
a team. As for Mexico, I don't know if they will do yet another
coaching switch, but again, they have a large player pool and usually
manage to up their performances at World Cups, especially with home advantage.
Canada's player pool is still pretty limited, and although we have a
nucleus of players under 28 who are reliable enough when fit (St.
Clair,GK, 27, Johnston D, 25, Miller D, 27, Cornelius D, 26, Bombito D, 24, Davies D/M 23; Eustaquio M 27, Koné M, 22; Buchanan F 25, David F
24 , Shaffelburg F 24), there is a lack of depth all over, but
particularly at Centre Back and midfield. I am not aware of any young players coming along that are ready to break into the starting lineup
plus main subs yet - perhaps Ali Ahmed and Mohamed Farsi (not even in
the squad, but doing well for Columbus), neither of whom is in the
positions where we need help the most.
Perhaps this tournament will prompt some multiple nationality you
Canadians who have not yet revealed themselves to come out of the
woodwork. It is, after all, a chance to play in a world cup.
The US suffered by their upset
defeat to Panama, but didn't show anything encouraging, while Mexico
was simply really poor.
Refereeing erratic and a buit biased in this last game.
My impression too, and that of some people who watched the game over
here. Brazilian referees might be the worst among the bigger football
nations - and that probably remains true if you include most of the
smaller ones as well.
Best regards,
Lléo
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