Group C:


Denmark - Serbia

England - Slovenia


Group C Standings:


1st England 4pts +1 GD

2nd Denmark 2pts 0 GD

3rd Slovenia 2pts 0 GD

4th Serbia 1pt -1 GD


England are guaranteed at least a highest ranked third place spot but
are presumably playing to win the group and land a second round match
with a third placed side and a space in the bracket which avoids
Germany, Portugal and Spain. Only a win guarantees this.

Denmark can win the group if they beat Serbia and England draw with
Slovenia but they would have to overcome England's goal difference (so
they need a two goal win). A draw and they'll either finish second or be
in the contention for a highest ranked third place spot depending on
what Slovenia do.

Slovenia can win the group if they beat England and Denmark drop points
or Denmark win but Slovenia beat their goal difference.

Serbia can finish second or third if they beat Denmark depending on what Slovenia do against England.

Everything very much to play for.


Group D:

France - Poland

Netherlands - Austria


Group D standings:

1st Netherlands 4pts + 1 GD

2nd France 4pts +1 GD

3rd Austria 3pts + 1 GD

4th Poland 0 pts - 3 GD


To win the group Netherlands and France are each trying to win their
respective matches by more goals than the other. Their points and GD are
the same, Netherlands are only ranked ahead of France by virtue of
having scored one more goal. Finishing top of this group means playing
the runner up of Group F (Turkey, Czechia or Georgia) in the next round
and landing in the perceived easier side of the bracket. The runner up
gets to play the runner up of Group E (Romania, Belgium, Slovakia,
Ukraine) but would find themselves in the bracket involving Germany,
Portugal and Spain.


Austria can win the group if they beat Netherlands and France don't beat Poland. A draw would see them progress as a highest ranked third place
side. Even in defeat they'd still be in contention to go through as a
third place side given Hungary have a -3 goal difference and there are
teams in C and F who could conceivably finish third with 2 or 1 points.


Poland are eliminated and only have pride to play for.

RM

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Real_Mardin wrote:

Group C:

Denmark - Serbia

England - Slovenia

Group C Standings:

1st England 4pts +1 GD

2nd Denmark 2pts 0 GD

3rd Slovenia 2pts 0 GD

4th Serbia 1pt -1 GD

England are guaranteed at least a highest ranked third place
spot but are presumably playing to win the group and land a
second round match with a third placed side and a space in the
bracket which avoids Germany, Portugal and Spain. Only a win
guarantees this.

England should win this game... lose it and they might as well
stay in Germany or the English media will lynch them.

Denmark can win the group if they beat Serbia and England draw
with Slovenia but they would have to overcome England's goal
difference (so they need a two goal win). A draw and they'll
either finish second or be in the contention for a highest
ranked third place spot depending on what Slovenia do.

Think this one will be a draw.

Slovenia can win the group if they beat England and Denmark
drop points or Denmark win but Slovenia beat their goal
difference. Serbia can finish second or third if they beat
Denmark depending on what Slovenia do against England.

I'm not predicting a Slovenia victory... but I do think it would
be fun if it happened.

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Blueshirt wrote:

Real_Mardin wrote:

Group C:


Denmark - Serbia

England - Slovenia


Group C Standings:


1st England 4pts +1 GD

2nd Denmark 2pts 0 GD

3rd Slovenia 2pts 0 GD

4th Serbia 1pt -1 GD


England are guaranteed at least a highest ranked third place
spot but are presumably playing to win the group and land a
second round match with a third placed side and a space in the
bracket which avoids Germany, Portugal and Spain. Only a win
guarantees this.

England should win this game... lose it and they might as well
stay in Germany or the English media will lynch them.

Denmark can win the group if they beat Serbia and England draw
with Slovenia but they would have to overcome England's goal
difference (so they need a two goal win). A draw and they'll
either finish second or be in the contention for a highest
ranked third place spot depending on what Slovenia do.

Think this one will be a draw.

Slovenia can win the group if they beat England and Denmark
drop points or Denmark win but Slovenia beat their goal
difference. Serbia can finish second or third if they beat
Denmark depending on what Slovenia do against England.

I'm not predicting a Slovenia victory... but I do think it would
be fun if it happened.

This would be fun for two reasons:

1) The inevitable completely over the top reaction from the English
media. We saw the backlash when they had the audacity to draw (draw!)
with Denmark, a team who were semi finalists at the last Euros. We can
only imagine what the media could come out with should England lose to
the likes of Slovenia.

2) It could set up a Germany - England match in the second round.


RM

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6 minutes, Austria cross low from the left, the area is crowded, for
some reason Malen feels the need to slide in......and direct the hall
into his own net for an own goal! Netherlands 0 - Austria 1.


RM

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On 2024-06-25 12:09 p.m., Real_Mardin wrote:

6 minutes, Austria cross low from the left, the area is crowded, for
some reason Malen feels the need to slide in......and direct the hall
into his own net for an own goal! Netherlands 0 - Austria 1.

RM

WTH, they can not hold on to a lead! Second place would be so good,
they would face 2nd from the Group of Dearth,

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On 2024-06-25 1:39 p.m., Binder Dundat wrote:

On 2024-06-25 12:09 p.m., Real_Mardin wrote:

6 minutes, Austria cross low from the left, the area is crowded, for
some reason Malen feels the need to slide in......and direct the hall
into his own net for an own goal! Netherlands 0 - Austria 1.


RM

WTH, they can not hold on to a lead!  Second place would be so good,
they would face 2nd from the Group of Dearth,

Back in the lead, that was quick. they got about 15 minutes to hold on
to this one.

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On 2024-06-25 1:41 p.m., Binder Dundat wrote:

On 2024-06-25 1:39 p.m., Binder Dundat wrote:

On 2024-06-25 12:09 p.m., Real_Mardin wrote:

6 minutes, Austria cross low from the left, the area is crowded, for
some reason Malen feels the need to slide in......and direct the hall
into his own net for an own goal! Netherlands 0 - Austria 1.


RM

WTH, they can not hold on to a lead!  Second place would be so good,
they would face 2nd from the Group of Dearth,

I guess the French just figured that out as well, they are now playing
for 2nd.

Back in the lead, that was quick. they got about 15 minutes to hold on
to this one.

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Futbolmetrix wrote:

Real_Mardin wrote:

6 minutes, Austria cross low from the left, the area is crowded, for
some reason Malen feels the need to slide in......and direct the hall
into his own net for an own goal! Netherlands 0 - Austria 1.

Lots of goals and turnarounds, even if the teams are only jockeying for positions within the group. With about five minutes left, it's

Austria 6
France 5
Netherlands 4

As it stands, France would end up in the Germany/Spain/Portugal side of
the bracket

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Real_Mardin wrote:

6 minutes, Austria cross low from the left, the area is crowded, for
some reason Malen feels the need to slide in......and direct the hall
into his own net for an own goal! Netherlands 0 - Austria 1.

Lots of goals and turnarounds, even if the teams are only jockeying for positions within the group. With about five minutes left, it's

Austria 6
France 5
Netherlands 4

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72 minutes - Austria 2-1 up. Gakpo equalised (didn’t see it, had to go
out to collect my car from its MOT and service). Austria when 2-1 up
when De Vrij turned in a diving header from Schmidt into his own net.


RM

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Futbolmetrix wrote:

Futbolmetrix wrote:

As it stands, France would end up in the Germany/Spain/Portugal side of
the bracket

A NED equalizer would send them from 3rd to 1st

Final Group D standings:

Austria 6
France 5
Netherlands 4
Poland 1

Austria will face one of the best thirds in the R16, and then maybe
Belgium in the QFs

France faces the runner-up of Group E (Romania?) in the R16, then
potentially Portugal in the QFs.

Netherlands, if I'm reading the grid correctly, will probably face
either the winner of the England group or the winner of the Belgium
group

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77 minutes- Malen makes it 2-2 with a half volley which VAR reviewed for
a phantom handball.

80 minutes Austria go 3-2 up with Sabitzer from inside the area.


RM

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Futbolmetrix wrote:

Futbolmetrix wrote:

Real_Mardin wrote:

6 minutes, Austria cross low from the left, the area is crowded, for
some reason Malen feels the need to slide in......and direct the hall
into his own net for an own goal! Netherlands 0 - Austria 1.

Lots of goals and turnarounds, even if the teams are only jockeying for
positions within the group. With about five minutes left, it's

Austria 6
France 5
Netherlands 4

As it stands, France would end up in the Germany/Spain/Portugal side of
the bracket

Dare I say Austria and France’s combined efforts just made England’s potential route to the final that bit easier?


RM

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Futbolmetrix wrote:

As it stands, France would end up in the Germany/Spain/Portugal side of
the bracket

A NED equalizer would send them from 3rd to 1st

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FT:

Netherlands 2 - Austria 3

France 1 - Poland 1

Austria are the real deal and win the group.

France second.

Netherlands third.


RM

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Real_Mardin wrote:

Blueshirt wrote:

Real_Mardin wrote:

Slovenia can win the group if they beat England and Denmark
drop points or Denmark win but Slovenia beat their goal
difference. Serbia can finish second or third if they beat
Denmark depending on what Slovenia do against England.

I'm not predicting a Slovenia victory... but I do think it
would be fun if it happened.

This would be fun for two reasons:

1) The inevitable completely over the top reaction from the
English media. We saw the backlash when they had the audacity
to draw (draw!) with Denmark, a team who were semi finalists
at the last Euros. We can only imagine what the media could
come out with should England lose to the likes of Slovenia.

Most sensible people would think that four points from two games
and top of the group is good... but the English media were
portraying it like the world was ending!

2) It could set up a Germany - England match in the second
round.

I hope England are practising their penalty kicks!

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Slospania?


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Futbolmetrix wrote:

Futbolmetrix wrote:

Futbolmetrix wrote:

As it stands, France would end up in the Germany/Spain/Portugal side of
the bracket

A NED equalizer would send them from 3rd to 1st

Final Group D standings:

Austria 6
France 5
Netherlands 4
Poland 1

Austria will face one of the best thirds in the R16, and then maybe
Belgium in the QFs

No, Austria plays the runner up of group F (Turkey, Czechia or Georgia).

France faces the runner-up of Group E (Romania?) in the R16, then
potentially Portugal in the QFs.

Netherlands, if I'm reading the grid correctly, will probably face
either the winner of the England group or the winner of the Belgium
group

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16 minutes left in Group C. Both games 0-0. If Denmark were to win 1-0
and England draw 0-0 Denmark would win the group (on goals scored) and
set up a Germany- England second round match. Come on Denmark!


RM

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anders t wrote:

Slospania?

Yellow card for Bijol, which apparently moves Denmark into second place, Slovenia in 3rd

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Real_Mardin wrote:

Denmark and Slovenia had identical points, goal difference, head to head
and goals scored and appear to have been separated by disciplinary
record.

Apparently they also had the same number of cards, so record in
qualifying came into play. But yes, correct, Denmark finishes second.

Denmark play Germany in the second round, England and Slovenia will wait
to learn who they'll play.

Assuming no crazy margins of victory in Group E:

If one of Czechia or Turkey win , the qualifiers will be CDEF, and the
R16 matches will be:
Spain - 3F (Turkey?)
England - 3E (Slovakia?)
1E - Netherlands
Portugal - Slovenia


Otherwise, the qualifiers are ACDE, and it would be:
Spain - 3E (Slovakia?)
England - Netherlands
1E - Slovenia
Portugal - Hungary

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FT:

Denmark 0 - Serbia 0

England 0 - Slovenia 0


Group C Final Standings


1st England 5pts + 1 GD

2nd Denmark 3pts 0 GD

3rd Slovenia 3pts 0 GD

4th Serbia 2pts -1 GD


Denmark and Slovenia had identical points, goal difference, head to head
and goals scored and appear to have been separated by disciplinary
record.

Denmark play Germany in the second round, England and Slovenia will wait
to learn who they'll play.


RM

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Real_Mardin <realmardinrss@proton.me> wrote:

FT:

Denmark 0 - Serbia 0

England 0 - Slovenia 0

Group C Final Standings

1st England 5pts + 1 GD

2nd Denmark 3pts 0 GD

3rd Slovenia 3pts 0 GD

4th Serbia 2pts -1 GD

Denmark and Slovenia had identical points, goal difference, head to head
and goals scored and appear to have been separated by disciplinary
record.

Because of an extra yellow given out to Slovenia’s
technical director Milivoje Novakovič in their first
match that most stat sites didn’t register.

Wouldn’t have made a difference though, as with an
even number of bookings Denmark still would have
been ahead, as they finished above Slovenia in their
qualification group (on even points, but won the
head-to-head).

Ciao,
Werner

Denmark play Germany in the second round, England and Slovenia will wait
to learn who they'll play.

RM

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Futbolmetrix <futbolmetrix@yahoo.com> wrote:

Futbolmetrix wrote:

Futbolmetrix wrote:

As it stands, France would end up in the Germany/Spain/Portugal side of
the bracket

A NED equalizer would send them from 3rd to 1st

Final Group D standings:

Austria 6
France 5
Netherlands 4
Poland 1

Austria will face one of the best thirds in the R16, and then maybe
Belgium in the QFs

We could also have a re-match with the Netherlands,
and in the same stadium.

But first Turkey/Czech Republic, which will be hard
enough. The week off should help.

Yesterday showcased what can happen when the
pressure is suddenly off. Without the nervousness of
the France and Poland games this was close to the
maximum level at which this Austrian team can
perform sans Alaba.


Ciao,
Werner

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Werner Pichler <no_email@invalid.invalid> wrote:

Futbolmetrix <futbolmetrix@yahoo.com> wrote:

Futbolmetrix wrote:

Futbolmetrix wrote:

As it stands, France would end up in the Germany/Spain/Portugal side of >>>> the bracket

A NED equalizer would send them from 3rd to 1st

Final Group D standings:

Austria 6
France 5
Netherlands 4
Poland 1

Austria will face one of the best thirds in the R16, and then maybe
Belgium in the QFs

We could also have a re-match with the Netherlands,
and in the same stadium.

Now a distinct possibility.
Has that happened before with this system?

Ciao,
Werner

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