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    From Futbolmetrix@21:1/5 to Ion Saliu on Thu Dec 21 06:20:35 2023
    On 12/21/2023 5:44 AM, Ion Saliu wrote:

    In a landmark ruling, the European Court of Justice (ECJ) has argued FIFA and UEFA broke EU law by blocking the ‘European Super League’ (ESL) and abused their dominant position in the sport.

    Surprising outcome.

    Betting business is “dead in the water” without upsets (“unpredictable” outcomes). Football (a.k.a. soccer) is “dead in the water” without betting.

    Interesting take. What makes you think that the volume of betting is
    higher on matches with a likely upset (Barca v Antwerp) than in ones
    between two roughly evenly matched heavyweights (Barca v Man City)?

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to futbolmetrix@yahoo.com on Thu Dec 21 13:43:14 2023
    In article <um1724$124ev$1@dont-email.me>,
    Futbolmetrix <futbolmetrix@yahoo.com> wrote:
    On 12/21/2023 5:44 AM, Ion Saliu wrote:

    In a landmark ruling, the European Court of Justice (ECJ) has argued
    FIFA and UEFA broke EU law by blocking the ‘European Super League’
    (ESL) and abused their dominant position in the sport.

    Surprising outcome.

    Betting business is “dead in the water” without upsets >(“unpredictable” outcomes). Football (a.k.a. soccer) is “dead in
    the water” without betting.

    Interesting take. What makes you think that the volume of betting is
    higher on matches with a likely upset (Barca v Antwerp) than in ones
    between two roughly evenly matched heavyweights (Barca v Man City)?




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  • From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to Futbolmetrix on Thu Dec 21 15:53:47 2023
    Futbolmetrix wrote:

    On 12/21/2023 5:44 AM, Ion Saliu wrote:

    In a landmark ruling, the European Court of Justice (ECJ) has
    argued FIFA and UEFA broke EU law by blocking the ‘European Super League’ (ESL) and abused their dominant position in the sport.

    Surprising outcome.

    Legally, it's not a complete surprise. The EU is based on one single
    market and free trade within it. Whilst the likes of FIFA/UEFA hold
    dominant positions over football and are often anti-democratic at
    times. Now, legally no football club has to stay aligned with either
    of them and they can form their own "Super league" on their own
    terms... if they choose to do so.

    In practice though, what is going to change? As the likes of any
    English clubs putting their head above the parapet now and breaking
    away from UEFA is slim to none and what good is a "Super League"
    without the big English clubs? In fact, I'd say within Europe - at
    the moment - the English Premier League IS the Super League.

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  • From MummyChunk@21:1/5 to All on Thu Dec 21 20:48:08 2023
    On Thursday, December 21, 2023 at 1:20:39PM UTC+2, Futbolmetrix
    wrote:
    On 12/21/2023 5:44 AM, Ion Saliu wrote:

    In a landmark ruling, the European Court of Justice (ECJ) has
    argued FIFA and UEFA broke EU law by blocking the `European Super
    League (ESL) and abused their dominant position in the sport.
    Surprising outcome.
    Betting business is "dead in the water" without upsets
    ("unpredictable" outcomes). Football (a.k.a. soccer) is
    "dead in the water" without betting.
    Interesting take. What makes you think that the volume of betting
    is
    higher on matches with a likely upset (Barca v Antwerp) than in
    ones
    between two roughly evenly matched heavyweights (Barca v Man
    City)?

    Ion Saliu wrote:


    Futitser:

    Assiomatico, most bettors bet LARGER SUMS OF MONEY ON THE MOST
    LIKELY OUTCOME. It makes sense. In the example I gave, most pundits
    bet on Barcelona, a prohibitive favorite. Since the "profit"
    was small, they BET BIG.

    I can tell you from reliable sources, the bookies LOVE huge upsets.
    A large number of bettors LOSE huge amounts of money. Of course, there
    are a few punters who make a hefty profit. But the balance is hugely
    biased in favor of the betting parlors.


    Ion "Axiomatic Parpaluck" Saliu
    Founder of Betting Mathematics
    o https://forums.saliu.com/software-1x2-football-soccer-pools.html

    The house ultimately always wins. Gambling Rule #1


    This is a response to the post seen at: http://www.jlaforums.com/viewtopic.php?p=657644385#657644385

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  • From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to Mark on Thu Dec 21 23:35:56 2023
    Mark wrote:

    Another thing I wonder about the legality of is FIFA objecting to a
    country's government 'interfering' with the way their FA runs
    football, and thinking that FIFA have got more right to a say in
    what goes on in football in a specific country than that country's government. Will that be the next legal challenge that UEFA or
    FIFA have to face?

    I actually think that the biggest threat to UEFA (long term) will
    actually come from FIFA... who see the riches European club football
    generates and would love to get their hands on a bigger slice of it!

    The expanded FIFA Club World Cup proposed for 2025 with 12 teams from
    Europe is only the start of it.

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