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  • Re: Potential Serie A treble in Europe

    From Futbolmetrix@21:1/5 to Al Kamista on Mon May 22 12:49:24 2023
    On Monday, May 22, 2023 at 3:32:25 PM UTC-4, Al Kamista wrote:
    Is this the first time a league has representation in all 3 of Europe's competitions, going back to the CWC and UEFA Cup days?

    If no, has a league ever won all 3 competitions in the same year?

    Serie A had teams in all three finals in 1988-89, going two out of three: Milan beat Steaua in EC1, Samp lost to Barca(?) in EC2, Napoli beat Stuttgart in EC3.

    They then had four teams in the finals in 1989-90, this time completing the treble: Milan over Benfica (EC1), Samp over Anderlecht (EC2), Juve over Fiorentina (EC3)

    Serie A again had representatives in all three finals in 1992-1993: Milan lost to Marseille (EC1), Parma beat Antwerp (EC2), Juve beat Dortmund (EC3)

    Spain did the double a number of times in the last 20 years

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  • From Al Kamista@21:1/5 to All on Mon May 22 12:32:23 2023
    Is this the first time a league has representation in all 3 of Europe's competitions, going back to the CWC and UEFA Cup days?

    If no, has a league ever won all 3 competitions in the same year?

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  • From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to Al Kamista on Mon May 22 21:13:09 2023
    Al Kamista wrote:

    Is this the first time a league has representation in all 3 of
    Europe's competitions, going back to the CWC and UEFA Cup days?

    No.

    If no, has a league ever won all 3 competitions in the same year?

    Yes, Serie A in 1989/90: AC Milan / Sampdoria / Juventus

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  • From MH@21:1/5 to Al Kamista on Mon May 22 16:44:37 2023
    On 2023-05-22 13:32, Al Kamista wrote:
    Is this the first time a league has representation in all 3 of Europe's competitions, going back to the CWC and UEFA Cup days?

    No. I believe the English First Division had finalists in all three at
    one point. There may have been others.




    If no, has a league ever won all 3 competitions in the same year?

    No

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  • From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to All on Tue May 23 01:18:07 2023
    MH wrote:

    On 2023-05-22 13:32, Al Kamista wrote:

    If no, has a league ever won all 3 competitions in the same year?

    No

    Apart from the year when they did of course! ;-)

    1989/90

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  • From MH@21:1/5 to All on Tue May 23 08:40:29 2023
    On 2023-05-22 16:44, MH wrote:
    On 2023-05-22 13:32, Al Kamista wrote:
    Is this the first time a league has representation in all 3 of
    Europe's competitions, going back to the CWC and UEFA Cup days?

    No. I believe the English First Division had finalists in all three at
    one point.  There may have been others.

    This might be wrong - I vaguely remember reading the UK had teams in all
    the finals and misremembered that as England.




    If no, has a league ever won all 3 competitions in the same year?

    No

    wrong here too.






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  • From Futbolmetrix@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Tue May 23 13:08:59 2023
    On Tuesday, May 23, 2023 at 3:47:48 PM UTC-4, Blueshirt wrote:

    In all fairness, I had to Google it. It wasn't something I was aware of
    off the top of my head.

    I knew 1989 and 1990 off the top of my head, had to google 1993

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  • From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to All on Tue May 23 19:46:33 2023
    MH wrote:

    On 2023-05-22 16:44, MH wrote:
    On 2023-05-22 13:32, Al Kamista wrote:
    Is this the first time a league has representation in all 3 of
    Europe's competitions, going back to the CWC and UEFA Cup days?

    No. I believe the English First Division had finalists in all three
    at one point.  There may have been others.

    This might be wrong - I vaguely remember reading the UK had teams in
    all the finals and misremembered that as England.

    I was thinking along similar lines so checked it out.

    If no, has a league ever won all 3 competitions in the same year?

    No

    wrong here too.

    In all fairness, I had to Google it. It wasn't something I was aware of
    off the top of my head.

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  • From Werner Pichler@21:1/5 to Futbolmetrix on Wed May 24 00:52:08 2023
    On Monday, May 22, 2023 at 9:49:26 PM UTC+2, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Monday, May 22, 2023 at 3:32:25 PM UTC-4, Al Kamista wrote:
    Is this the first time a league has representation in all 3 of Europe's competitions, going back to the CWC and UEFA Cup
    days?

    If no, has a league ever won all 3 competitions in the same year?

    Serie A had teams in all three finals in 1988-89, going two out of three: Milan beat Steaua in EC1, Samp lost to Barca(?) in
    EC2, Napoli beat Stuttgart in EC3.

    They then had four teams in the finals in 1989-90, this time completing the treble: Milan over Benfica (EC1), Samp over
    Anderlecht (EC2), Juve over Fiorentina (EC3)

    What I also find interesting is that Fiorentina, of all teams, are now the first and only team
    to have reached the final of every season-long UEFA competition (Roma are missing the CWC).

    Ciao,
    Werner

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  • From Mark@21:1/5 to All on Wed May 24 02:53:20 2023
    On Tuesday, May 23, 2023 at 3:41:34 PM UTC+1, MH wrote:
    On 2023-05-22 16:44, MH wrote:
    On 2023-05-22 13:32, Al Kamista wrote:
    Is this the first time a league has representation in all 3 of
    Europe's competitions, going back to the CWC and UEFA Cup days?

    No. I believe the English First Division had finalists in all three at
    one point. There may have been others.
    This might be wrong - I vaguely remember reading the UK had teams in all
    the finals and misremembered that as England.

    I don't think that's ever happened either has it? Would it be 1984 you're thinking of? Britain had teams in 2 finals that year and losing semi-finalists in the Cup Winners Cup.

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  • From MH@21:1/5 to Mark on Wed May 24 08:37:57 2023
    On 2023-05-24 03:53, Mark wrote:
    On Tuesday, May 23, 2023 at 3:41:34 PM UTC+1, MH wrote:
    On 2023-05-22 16:44, MH wrote:
    On 2023-05-22 13:32, Al Kamista wrote:
    Is this the first time a league has representation in all 3 of
    Europe's competitions, going back to the CWC and UEFA Cup days?

    No. I believe the English First Division had finalists in all three at
    one point. There may have been others.
    This might be wrong - I vaguely remember reading the UK had teams in all
    the finals and misremembered that as England.

    I don't think that's ever happened either has it? Would it be 1984 you're thinking of? Britain had teams in 2 finals that year and losing semi-finalists in the Cup Winners Cup.

    Leeds United in Fairs Cup (predecessor of UEFA), Rangers in CWC and
    Celtic in European Cup in 1967.

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  • From MH@21:1/5 to Werner Pichler on Wed May 24 08:39:44 2023
    On 2023-05-24 01:52, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Monday, May 22, 2023 at 9:49:26 PM UTC+2, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Monday, May 22, 2023 at 3:32:25 PM UTC-4, Al Kamista wrote:
    Is this the first time a league has representation in all 3 of Europe's competitions, going back to the CWC and UEFA Cup
    days?

    If no, has a league ever won all 3 competitions in the same year?

    Serie A had teams in all three finals in 1988-89, going two out of three: Milan beat Steaua in EC1, Samp lost to Barca(?) in
    EC2, Napoli beat Stuttgart in EC3.

    They then had four teams in the finals in 1989-90, this time completing the treble: Milan over Benfica (EC1), Samp over
    Anderlecht (EC2), Juve over Fiorentina (EC3)

    What I also find interesting is that Fiorentina, of all teams, are now the first and only team
    to have reached the final of every season-long UEFA competition (Roma are missing the CWC).

    Out of curiosity are you counting UEFA Cup and Fairs cup as one entity?
    (Not that it necessarily makes a difference, as I have not looked)


    Ciao,
    Werner

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  • From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to All on Wed May 24 14:54:15 2023
    MH wrote:

    On 2023-05-24 01:52, Werner Pichler wrote:

    What I also find interesting is that Fiorentina, of all teams, are
    now the first and only team to have reached the final of every
    season-long UEFA competition (Roma are missing the CWC).

    Out of curiosity are you counting UEFA Cup and Fairs cup as one
    entity? (Not that it necessarily makes a difference, as I have not
    looked)

    Personally, I wouldn't classify the Inter-Cities Fairs Cup/UEFA
    Cup/Europa League as one legacy tournament... UEFA did not run the
    Fairs Cup or consider its tournament records as part of their
    competition history. So for me, the Inter-Cities Fairs Cup should be
    classified as a separate entity.

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