Some people do not understand that nowadays the primary viewing device
is a smartphone.
In article <TudcL.1384770$9f26.288472@fx09.ams1>, Alfred Molon <alfred_molon@yahoo.com> wrote:
Some people do not understand that nowadays the primary viewing device
is a smartphone.
which can be rotated into landscape mode.
On 2022-11-13 23:33, nospam wrote:
In article <TudcL.1384770$9f26.288472@fx09.ams1>, Alfred Molon
<alfred_molon@yahoo.com> wrote:
Some people do not understand that nowadays the primary viewing device
is a smartphone.
which can be rotated into landscape mode.
"can" is not "must".
Some people do not understand that nowadays the primary viewing device
is a smartphone.
which can be rotated into landscape mode.
"can" is not "must".
In article <TudcL.1384770$9f26.288472@fx09.ams1>, Alfred Molon <alfred_molon@yahoo.com> wrote:
Some people do not understand that nowadays the primary viewing device
is a smartphone.
which can be rotated into landscape mode.
The article is not terribly interesting, but the comments at the bottom
are funny: https://petapixel.com/2022/11/11/davinci-resolve-18-1-adds-support-for-social-media-friendly-vertical-video/
Some people do not understand that nowadays the primary viewing device
is a smartphone.
On 13/11/2022 21:40, Alfred Molon wrote:
The article is not terribly interesting, but the comments at the bottom
are funny:
https://petapixel.com/2022/11/11/davinci-resolve-18-1-adds-support-for-social-media-friendly-vertical-video/
Some people do not understand that nowadays the primary viewing device
is a smartphone.
My smartphone works equally well in Landscape mode. Yes, both for
viewing and for taking. A remarkable innovation. I just need to rotate the phone to horizontal mode. Perhaps I have the only phone in the
world which does this!
Seriously, I choose the orientation to match the subject, and wish
others would do so too. One novel (?) feature of the phone, though, is
that for panoramas the phone works best with portrait orientation,
giving the maximum number of pixels across the image height as the phone
is rotated.
Surely the major criterion should be the fixed or best-suited
orientation of the most likely viewing device ?
Also for your panoramas, surely the best orientation is the most similar
to natural vision - like*not* looking thru a narrow vertical slot ? If number of pixels is so critical, maybe a phone isn't the best tool to be using....
geoff
Yes, it surprised me as well - using the vertical orientation for landscapes -
but the results obtained are excellent. These days most of my photos are with
the phone where the pano is created automatically in the camera. No more messing with multiple images in post-processing.
The resulting image is, of
course, in landscape format.
On 14/11/2022 6:16 pm, David Taylor wrote:
On 13/11/2022 21:40, Alfred Molon wrote:
The article is not terribly interesting, but the comments at the bottom
are funny:
https://petapixel.com/2022/11/11/davinci-resolve-18-1-adds-support-for-social-media-friendly-vertical-video/
Some people do not understand that nowadays the primary viewing device
is a smartphone.
My smartphone works equally well in Landscape mode. Yes, both for
viewing and for taking. A remarkable innovation. I just need to
rotate the phone to horizontal mode. Perhaps I have the only phone in
the world which does this!
Seriously, I choose the orientation to match the subject, and wish
others would do so too. One novel (?) feature of the phone, though,
is that for panoramas the phone works best with portrait orientation,
giving the maximum number of pixels across the image height as the
phone is rotated.
Surely the major criterion should be the fixed or best-suited
orientation of the most likely viewing device ?
Also for your panoramas, surely the best orientation is the most similar
to natural vision - like *not* looking thru a narrow vertical slot ? If number of pixels is so critical, maybe a phone isn't the best tool to be using....
geoff
In article <rua84j-0rj.ln1@Telcontar.valinor>, Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
Some people do not understand that nowadays the primary viewing device >>>> is a smartphone.
which can be rotated into landscape mode.
"can" is not "must".
that's exactly the problem.
if smartphones emitted a high voltage pulse when shooting vertical
video, the world would be a much happier place.
On 2022-11-14 01:08, nospam wrote:
In article <rua84j-0rj.ln1@Telcontar.valinor>, Carlos E.R.
<robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
Some people do not understand that nowadays the primary viewing device >>>>> is a smartphone.
which can be rotated into landscape mode.
"can" is not "must".
that's exactly the problem.
I don't see the problem...
if smartphones emitted a high voltage pulse when shooting vertical
video, the world would be a much happier place.
Resistance is futile :-P
I can't remember when was last time my daughters were using their
smartphones in landscape mode. For some reason they only use smartphones
in portrait orientation.
I can't remember when was last time my daughters were using their
smartphones in landscape mode. For some reason they only use smartphones >> in portrait orientation.
have they never played a landscape-oriented game??
maybe teach them how to rotate it and open up a whole new world.
I am sure they know.
In article <P_vcL.1577807$%fx6.605989@fx14.ams1>, Alfred Molon <alfred_molon@yahoo.com> wrote:
I can't remember when was last time my daughters were using their
smartphones in landscape mode. For some reason they only use smartphones
in portrait orientation.
have they never played a landscape-oriented game??
maybe teach them how to rotate it and open up a whole new world.
In article <qppa4j-tqs.ln1@Telcontar.valinor>, Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
I can't remember when was last time my daughters were using their
smartphones in landscape mode. For some reason they only use smartphones >>>> in portrait orientation.
have they never played a landscape-oriented game??
maybe teach them how to rotate it and open up a whole new world.
I am sure they know.
apparently not.
I can't remember when was last time my daughters were using their
smartphones in landscape mode. For some reason they only use smartphones >>>> in portrait orientation.
have they never played a landscape-oriented game??
maybe teach them how to rotate it and open up a whole new world.
I am sure they know.
apparently not.
They do.
They simply choose to shoot video vertically.
So do I, now and
then.
Some things are better in portrait, some others in landscape.
In article <tksj0a$1mk4b$1@dont-email.me>, David Taylor <david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk.invalid> wrote:
One novel (?) feature of the phone, though, is that for panoramas
the phone works best with portrait orientation, giving the maximum number of >> pixels across the image height as the phone is rotated.
panoramas are normally done by stitching portrait-oriented stills,
which becomes an extended landscape image.
On 14/11/2022 05:37, geoff wrote:
Surely the major criterion should be the fixed or best-suited
orientation of the most likely viewing device ?
Also for your panoramas, surely the best orientation is the most similar
to natural vision - like*not* looking thru a narrow vertical slot ? If
number of pixels is so critical, maybe a phone isn't the best tool to be
using....
geoff
I don't fully agree Geoff. The best-suited orientation should be for
the image or video being created. If the viewer can't be bothered to
rotate their phone it's their loss. Let the creator decide which format suits the image. Different if you are creating images for a specific
device, of course.
Yes, it surprised me as well - using the vertical orientation for
landscapes - but the results obtained are excellent. These days most of
my photos are with the phone where the pano is created automatically in
the camera. No more messing with multiple images in post-processing.
The resulting image is, of course, in landscape format.
Am 14.11.2022 um 12:32 schrieb Carlos E.R.:
On 2022-11-14 01:08, nospam wrote:
In article <rua84j-0rj.ln1@Telcontar.valinor>, Carlos E.R.
<robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
Some people do not understand that nowadays the primary viewing
device
is a smartphone.
which can be rotated into landscape mode.
"can" is not "must".
that's exactly the problem.
I don't see the problem...
if smartphones emitted a high voltage pulse when shooting vertical
video, the world would be a much happier place.
Resistance is futile :-P
I can't remember when was last time my daughters were using their
smartphones in landscape mode. For some reason they only use smartphones
in portrait orientation.
On 2022-11-14 06:37, geoff wrote:
On 14/11/2022 6:16 pm, David Taylor wrote:
On 13/11/2022 21:40, Alfred Molon wrote:
The article is not terribly interesting, but the comments at the bottom >>>> are funny:
https://petapixel.com/2022/11/11/davinci-resolve-18-1-adds-support-for-social-media-friendly-vertical-video/
Some people do not understand that nowadays the primary viewing device >>>> is a smartphone.
My smartphone works equally well in Landscape mode. Yes, both for
viewing and for taking. A remarkable innovation. I just need to
rotate the phone to horizontal mode. Perhaps I have the only phone
in the world which does this!
Seriously, I choose the orientation to match the subject, and wish
others would do so too. One novel (?) feature of the phone, though,
is that for panoramas the phone works best with portrait orientation,
giving the maximum number of pixels across the image height as the
phone is rotated.
Surely the major criterion should be the fixed or best-suited
orientation of the most likely viewing device ?
Which is a phone, which will be vertical :-p
Also for your panoramas, surely the best orientation is the most
similar to natural vision - like *not* looking thru a narrow vertical
slot ? If number of pixels is so critical, maybe a phone isn't the
best tool to be using....
But it is the one that most people have. In the billions. And it is just
a fact, phone are designed to create horizontal panoramas used in
vertical orientation.
One novel (?) feature of the phone, though, is that for panoramas
the phone works best with portrait orientation, giving the maximum number >> of
pixels across the image height as the phone is rotated.
panoramas are normally done by stitching portrait-oriented stills,
which becomes an extended landscape image.
Modern phones often have a facility that does this for you automatically.
In article <MKycnbSvvp8tdO_-nZ2dnZfqnPgAAAAA@giganews.com>, geoff <geoff@nospamgeoffwood.org> wrote:
One novel (?) feature of the phone, though, is that for panoramas >>>> the phone works best with portrait orientation, giving the maximum number >>>> of
pixels across the image height as the phone is rotated.
panoramas are normally done by stitching portrait-oriented stills,
which becomes an extended landscape image.
Modern phones often have a facility that does this for you automatically.
they do, but sometimes people use non-phone cameras.
In article <P_vcL.1577807$%fx6.605989@fx14.ams1>, Alfred Molon
<alfred_molon@yahoo.com> wrote:
I can't remember when was last time my daughters were using their
smartphones in landscape mode. For some reason they only use smartphones
in portrait orientation.
have they never played a landscape-oriented game??
maybe teach them how to rotate it and open up a whole new world.
On 15/11/2022 7:42 am, Alfred Molon wrote:
Am 14.11.2022 um 12:32 schrieb Carlos E.R.:
On 2022-11-14 01:08, nospam wrote:
In article <rua84j-...@Telcontar.valinor>, Carlos E.R.
<robin_...@es.invalid> wrote:
Some people do not understand that nowadays the primary viewing
device
is a smartphone.
which can be rotated into landscape mode.
"can" is not "must".
that's exactly the problem.
I don't see the problem...
if smartphones emitted a high voltage pulse when shooting vertical
video, the world would be a much happier place.
Resistance is futile :-P
I can't remember when was last time my daughters were using their smartphones in landscape mode. For some reason they only use smartphones" Landscape orientation - what's that ? "
in portrait orientation.
geoff
In article <t5SdnfQfmIpbmO7-nZ2dnZfqn_WdnZ2d@giganews.com>, geoff
<geoff@nospamgeoffwood.org> wrote:
The point of this thread relate to uploading portrait orientation videos
to social media - which is pretty much universally the domain of
smartphone usage.
it isn't.
although phones are common, most content is not suitable for portrait orientation.
further, many people use social media on something *other* than a
phone, such as a tablet, a laptop/desktop, and the videos are often
viewed on larger screens, such as a tv, all of which are landscape.
and sometimes videos of newsworthy events are shown on various news
outlets, which must insert ugly letterboxing so that it is landscape.
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dechvhb0Meo>
The point of this thread relate to uploading portrait orientation videos
to social media - which is pretty much universally the domain of
smartphone usage.
On 2022-11-14 20:11, nospam wrote:
In article <P_vcL.1577807$%fx6.605989@fx14.ams1>, Alfred Molon
<alfred_molon@yahoo.com> wrote:
I can't remember when was last time my daughters were using their
smartphones in landscape mode. For some reason they only use smartphones >>> in portrait orientation.
have they never played a landscape-oriented game??
maybe teach them how to rotate it and open up a whole new world.
I am sure they know.
On 2022-11-15, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
In article <t5SdnfQfmIpbmO7-nZ2dnZfqn_WdnZ2d@giganews.com>, geoff
<geoff@nospamgeoffwood.org> wrote:
The point of this thread relate to uploading portrait orientation videos >>> to social media - which is pretty much universally the domain of
smartphone usage.
it isn't.
although phones are common, most content is not suitable for portrait
orientation.
further, many people use social media on something *other* than a
phone, such as a tablet, a laptop/desktop, and the videos are often
viewed on larger screens, such as a tv, all of which are landscape.
and sometimes videos of newsworthy events are shown on various news
outlets, which must insert ugly letterboxing so that it is landscape.
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dechvhb0Meo>
TikTok and it's various clones are intended to be used in portrait mode.
It's quite hideous.
Smartphones are typically used in portrait mode.
Tiktok probably
considered this when they launched the service.
Perhaps it's because it's more easy to hold (and use) a smartphone with
one hand in the vertical position. In horizontal position you have to
use two hands.
Yes, it is true.
That doesn't deter me when I want to take a landscape photo or video,
though, but it makes it more difficult. It is a different position of
the hand, and a different finger to push the red "button".
Am 14.11.2022 um 22:50 schrieb Carlos E.R.:
On 2022-11-14 20:11, nospam wrote:
In article <P_vcL.1577807$%fx6.605989@fx14.ams1>, Alfred Molon
<alfred_molon@yahoo.com> wrote:
I can't remember when was last time my daughters were using their
smartphones in landscape mode. For some reason they only use
smartphones
in portrait orientation.
have they never played a landscape-oriented game??
maybe teach them how to rotate it and open up a whole new world.
I am sure they know.
Perhaps it's because it's more easy to hold (and use) a smartphone with
one hand in the vertical position. In horizontal position you have to
use two hands.
In article <t5SdnfQfmIpbmO7-nZ2dnZfqn_WdnZ2d@giganews.com>, geoff <geoff@nospamgeoffwood.org> wrote:
The point of this thread relate to uploading portrait orientation videos
to social media - which is pretty much universally the domain of
smartphone usage.
it isn't.
although phones are common, most content is not suitable for portrait orientation.
further, many people use social media on something *other* than a
phone, such as a tablet, a laptop/desktop, and the videos are often
viewed on larger screens, such as a tv, all of which are landscape.
and sometimes videos of newsworthy events are shown on various news
outlets, which must insert ugly letterboxing so that it is landscape.
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dechvhb0Meo>
On 2022-11-15 18:39, Alfred Molon wrote:
Am 14.11.2022 um 22:50 schrieb Carlos E.R.:
On 2022-11-14 20:11, nospam wrote:
In article <P_vcL.1577807$%fx6.6...@fx14.ams1>, Alfred Molon
<alfred...@yahoo.com> wrote:
I can't remember when was last time my daughters were using their
smartphones in landscape mode. For some reason they only use
smartphones
in portrait orientation.
have they never played a landscape-oriented game??
maybe teach them how to rotate it and open up a whole new world.
I am sure they know.
Perhaps it's because it's more easy to hold (and use) a smartphone withYes, it is true.
one hand in the vertical position. In horizontal position you have to
use two hands.
That doesn't deter me when I want to take a landscape photo or video,
though, but it makes it more difficult. It is a different position of
the hand, and a different finger to push the red "button".
--
Cheers, Carlos.
I have an old camera, a wood box, using glass plates inside, with a
mechanism to load the next glass automatically without opening it, and
it has two viewfinders: one for portrait, another for landscape. And corresponding holes for the tripod on two sides.
On Tuesday, 15 November 2022 at 19:20:12 UTC, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2022-11-15 18:39, Alfred Molon wrote:
Am 14.11.2022 um 22:50 schrieb Carlos E.R.:Yes, it is true.
On 2022-11-14 20:11, nospam wrote:
In article <P_vcL.1577807$%fx6.6...@fx14.ams1>, Alfred Molon
<alfred...@yahoo.com> wrote:
I can't remember when was last time my daughters were using their
smartphones in landscape mode. For some reason they only use
smartphones
in portrait orientation.
have they never played a landscape-oriented game??
maybe teach them how to rotate it and open up a whole new world.
I am sure they know.
Perhaps it's because it's more easy to hold (and use) a smartphone with
one hand in the vertical position. In horizontal position you have to
use two hands.
That doesn't deter me when I want to take a landscape photo or video,
Most of the things you see video'd on smartphones aren't exactly Movies
or serious content and those using them don;t usually know much about such things.
It's just convenience rather than some artistic or logical reason.
Most of us have one eye next to the other in landscape mode so that's how we see the world.
Most animals have this configuration too.
There are times when potrait mode is OK for videos.
When filming a lone singer on stage or the Artimus rocket launch today, or a bungee jumper.
But the worst of all is changing orientation of the scene while filming.
In the days of film most SLRs where used in landscape, but some like myself when taking portraits
tended to hold the camera upright which was far more difficult to handhold.
though, but it makes it more difficult. It is a different position of
the hand, and a different finger to push the red "button".
And with smartphones you're more liely to obscure your view of the scene when holing in landscape mode
and even covering up the lens with a floating finger.
In article <rlpf4j-bh5.ln1@Telcontar.valinor>, Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
I have an old camera, a wood box, using glass plates inside, with a
mechanism to load the next glass automatically without opening it, and
it has two viewfinders: one for portrait, another for landscape. And
corresponding holes for the tripod on two sides.
glass plate movies are the best, no matter what orientation.
On Tuesday, 15 November 2022 at 19:20:12 UTC, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2022-11-15 18:39, Alfred Molon wrote:
Am 14.11.2022 um 22:50 schrieb Carlos E.R.:Yes, it is true.
On 2022-11-14 20:11, nospam wrote:
In article <P_vcL.1577807$%fx6.6...@fx14.ams1>, Alfred Molon
<alfred...@yahoo.com> wrote:
I can't remember when was last time my daughters were using their
smartphones in landscape mode. For some reason they only use
smartphones
in portrait orientation.
have they never played a landscape-oriented game??
maybe teach them how to rotate it and open up a whole new world.
I am sure they know.
Perhaps it's because it's more easy to hold (and use) a smartphone with
one hand in the vertical position. In horizontal position you have to
use two hands.
That doesn't deter me when I want to take a landscape photo or video,
Most of the things you see video'd on smartphones aren't exactly Movies
or serious content and those using them don;t usually know much about such things.
It's just convenience rather than some artistic or logical reason.
Most of us have one eye next to the other in landscape mode so that's how we see the world.
Most animals have this configuration too.
There are times when potrait mode is OK for videos.
When filming a lone singer on stage or the Artimus rocket launch today, or a bungee jumper.
But the worst of all is changing orientation of the scene while filming.
In the days of film most SLRs where used in landscape, but some like myself when taking portraits
tended to hold the camera upright which was far more difficult to handhold.
though, but it makes it more difficult. It is a different position of
the hand, and a different finger to push the red "button".
And with smartphones you're more liely to obscure your view of the scene when holing in landscape mode
and even covering up the lens with a floating finger.
--
Cheers, Carlos.
On 17/11/2022 2:34 am, Whisky-dave wrote:
On Tuesday, 15 November 2022 at 19:20:12 UTC, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2022-11-15 18:39, Alfred Molon wrote:
Am 14.11.2022 um 22:50 schrieb Carlos E.R.:Yes, it is true.
On 2022-11-14 20:11, nospam wrote:
In article <P_vcL.1577807$%fx6.6...@fx14.ams1>, Alfred Molon
<alfred...@yahoo.com> wrote:
I can't remember when was last time my daughters were using their >>>>>> smartphones in landscape mode. For some reason they only use
smartphones
in portrait orientation.
have they never played a landscape-oriented game??
maybe teach them how to rotate it and open up a whole new world.
I am sure they know.
Perhaps it's because it's more easy to hold (and use) a smartphone with >>> one hand in the vertical position. In horizontal position you have to
use two hands.
That doesn't deter me when I want to take a landscape photo or video,
Most of the things you see video'd on smartphones aren't exactly Movies
or serious content and those using them don;t usually know much about such things.
It's just convenience rather than some artistic or logical reason.
Most of us have one eye next to the other in landscape mode so that's how we see the world.
Most animals have this configuration too.
There are times when potrait mode is OK for videos.So with the rocket - watching a scene the height of you TV/monitor with
When filming a lone singer on stage or the Artimus rocket launch today, or a bungee jumper.
a seamless background out to the edges is not as good as the same height
with black stripes (or worse still stripes of OOF repeated images) down
the sides ?
Yeah, OK on smartphones, so the world is reduced to the lowest common denominator ...
But the worst of all is changing orientation of the scene while filming.
In the days of film most SLRs where used in landscape, but some like myself when taking portraitsThat's not a video.
tended to hold the camera upright which was far more difficult to handhold.
On Wednesday, 16 November 2022 at 20:20:44 UTC, geoff wrote:
On 17/11/2022 2:34 am, Whisky-dave wrote:
On Tuesday, 15 November 2022 at 19:20:12 UTC, Carlos E.R. wrote:So with the rocket - watching a scene the height of you TV/monitor with
On 2022-11-15 18:39, Alfred Molon wrote:
Am 14.11.2022 um 22:50 schrieb Carlos E.R.:Yes, it is true.
On 2022-11-14 20:11, nospam wrote:
In article <P_vcL.1577807$%fx6.6...@fx14.ams1>, Alfred Molon
<alfred...@yahoo.com> wrote:
I can't remember when was last time my daughters were using their >>>>>>>> smartphones in landscape mode. For some reason they only use
smartphones
in portrait orientation.
have they never played a landscape-oriented game??
maybe teach them how to rotate it and open up a whole new world.
I am sure they know.
Perhaps it's because it's more easy to hold (and use) a smartphone with >>>>> one hand in the vertical position. In horizontal position you have to >>>>> use two hands.
That doesn't deter me when I want to take a landscape photo or video,
Most of the things you see video'd on smartphones aren't exactly Movies
or serious content and those using them don;t usually know much about such things.
It's just convenience rather than some artistic or logical reason.
Most of us have one eye next to the other in landscape mode so that's how we see the world.
Most animals have this configuration too.
There are times when potrait mode is OK for videos.
When filming a lone singer on stage or the Artimus rocket launch today, or a bungee jumper.
a seamless background out to the edges is not as good as the same height
with black stripes (or worse still stripes of OOF repeated images) down
the sides ?
But you wouldn't get the same level of detail of the rocket using landscape mode.
Yeah, OK on smartphones, so the world is reduced to the lowest common
denominator ...
reducing it to landscape is the common denominator.
But the worst of all is changing orientation of the scene while filming. >>>
In the days of film most SLRs where used in landscape, but some like myself when taking portraits
tended to hold the camera upright which was far more difficult to handhold. >> That's not a video.
Landsape and portrait came long before film and video.
I'm pretty sure if Leonardo da Vinci had wanted to do a video of the Mona Lisa smiling I'd think he would use portrait mode rather than landscape
and have to chop off her hands.
On 18/11/2022 2:07 am, Whisky-dave wrote:
On Wednesday, 16 November 2022 at 20:20:44 UTC, geoff wrote:
On 17/11/2022 2:34 am, Whisky-dave wrote:
On Tuesday, 15 November 2022 at 19:20:12 UTC, Carlos E.R. wrote:So with the rocket - watching a scene the height of you TV/monitor with
On 2022-11-15 18:39, Alfred Molon wrote:Most of the things you see video'd on smartphones aren't exactly Movies >>>> or serious content and those using them don;t usually know much
Am 14.11.2022 um 22:50 schrieb Carlos E.R.:Yes, it is true.
On 2022-11-14 20:11, nospam wrote:
In article <P_vcL.1577807$%fx6.6...@fx14.ams1>, Alfred MolonI am sure they know.
<alfred...@yahoo.com> wrote:
I can't remember when was last time my daughters were using their >>>>>>>>> smartphones in landscape mode. For some reason they only use >>>>>>>>> smartphones
in portrait orientation.
have they never played a landscape-oriented game??
maybe teach them how to rotate it and open up a whole new world. >>>>>>>
Perhaps it's because it's more easy to hold (and use) a smartphone >>>>>> with
one hand in the vertical position. In horizontal position you have to >>>>>> use two hands.
That doesn't deter me when I want to take a landscape photo or video, >>>>
about such things.
It's just convenience rather than some artistic or logical reason.
Most of us have one eye next to the other in landscape mode so
that's how we see the world.
Most animals have this configuration too.
There are times when potrait mode is OK for videos.
When filming a lone singer on stage or the Artimus rocket launch
today, or a bungee jumper.
a seamless background out to the edges is not as good as the same height >>> with black stripes (or worse still stripes of OOF repeated images) down
the sides ?
But you wouldn't get the same level of detail of the rocket using
landscape mode.
Depends on the replay device orientation.
If vertical, great. If
horizontal, then identical either way around, limited by the vertical resolution of the viewing device. Yes if viewing portrait with a
portrait device at same res then great. But you may have noticed that
the broadcast of Artimus launch broadcast was landscape.
If vertical, great. If horizontal, then identical either way around,
limited by the vertical resolution of the viewing device. Yes if
viewing portrait with a portrait device at same res then great. But
you may have noticed that the broadcast of Artimus launch broadcast
was landscape.
Because their cameras are not that capable as a phone. They can not be
used in portrait mode. What a shame! :-P
On 18/11/2022 2:07 am, Whisky-dave wrote:
On Wednesday, 16 November 2022 at 20:20:44 UTC, geoff wrote:
On 17/11/2022 2:34 am, Whisky-dave wrote:
On Tuesday, 15 November 2022 at 19:20:12 UTC, Carlos E.R. wrote:So with the rocket - watching a scene the height of you TV/monitor with
On 2022-11-15 18:39, Alfred Molon wrote:Most of the things you see video'd on smartphones aren't exactly Movies >>> or serious content and those using them don;t usually know much about such things.
Am 14.11.2022 um 22:50 schrieb Carlos E.R.:Yes, it is true.
On 2022-11-14 20:11, nospam wrote:
In article <P_vcL.1577807$%fx6.6...@fx14.ams1>, Alfred MolonI am sure they know.
<alfred...@yahoo.com> wrote:
I can't remember when was last time my daughters were using their >>>>>>>> smartphones in landscape mode. For some reason they only use >>>>>>>> smartphones
in portrait orientation.
have they never played a landscape-oriented game??
maybe teach them how to rotate it and open up a whole new world. >>>>>>
Perhaps it's because it's more easy to hold (and use) a smartphone with >>>>> one hand in the vertical position. In horizontal position you have to >>>>> use two hands.
That doesn't deter me when I want to take a landscape photo or video, >>>
It's just convenience rather than some artistic or logical reason.
Most of us have one eye next to the other in landscape mode so that's how we see the world.
Most animals have this configuration too.
There are times when potrait mode is OK for videos.
When filming a lone singer on stage or the Artimus rocket launch today, or a bungee jumper.
a seamless background out to the edges is not as good as the same height >> with black stripes (or worse still stripes of OOF repeated images) down
the sides ?
But you wouldn't get the same level of detail of the rocket using landscape mode.Depends on the replay device orientation. If vertical, great. If
horizontal, then identical either way around, limited by the vertical resolution of the viewing device.
Yes if viewing portrait with a
portrait device at same res then great. But you may have noticed that
the broadcast of Artimus launch broadcast was landscape.
Yeah, OK on smartphones, so the world is reduced to the lowest common
denominator ...
reducing it to landscape is the common denominator.Being 'the lowest common denominator' because of the way used by the
majority of people purely because have no clue about the factors involved.
But the worst of all is changing orientation of the scene while filming. >>>That's not a video.
In the days of film most SLRs where used in landscape, but some like myself when taking portraits
tended to hold the camera upright which was far more difficult to handhold.
Landsape and portrait came long before film and video.Yes, so ... ?
I'm pretty sure if Leonardo da Vinci had wanted to do a video of the Mona Lisa smiling I'd think he would use portrait mode rather than landscapePortrait orientation is very appropriate for, um, portraits. Wow how
and have to chop off her hands.
about that. Vert resolution identical with either source orientation
when displayed on a landscape device such as a TV or video monitor.
geoff
On 18/11/2022 1:47 pm, Carlos E.R. wrote:
If vertical, great. If horizontal, then identical either way around,
limited by the vertical resolution of the viewing device. Yes if
viewing portrait with a portrait device at same res then great. But
you may have noticed that the broadcast of Artimus launch broadcast
was landscape.
Because their cameras are not that capable as a phone. They can not bePresumably the ;-) means that you are joking. I hope.
used in portrait mode. What a shame! :-P
I do however concede that NASA is technologically behind in that they
still appear to use archaic imperial measurements - miles, pounds, etc !
geoff
On Thursday, 17 November 2022 at 22:38:33 UTC, geoff wrote:
On 18/11/2022 2:07 am, Whisky-dave wrote:
On Wednesday, 16 November 2022 at 20:20:44 UTC, geoff wrote:
I'm pretty sure if Leonardo da Vinci had wanted to do a video of the Mona Lisa smiling I'd think he would use portrait mode rather than landscapePortrait orientation is very appropriate for, um, portraits. Wow how
and have to chop off her hands.
about that. Vert resolution identical with either source orientation
when displayed on a landscape device such as a TV or video monitor.
You'll notice most childrens book are in landscape format while the vast majority of other books are on portait .
I wonder why.
On Thursday, 17 November 2022 at 22:38:33 UTC, geoff wrote:
Yes if viewing portrait with a
portrait device at same res then great. But you may have noticed that
the broadcast of Artimus launch broadcast was landscape.
Because that's how the TV cameras were mounted.
I don;t think there's an option to verticaly mount them and it probabbly wouldn't
occur to a film maker to do it anyway.
Being 'the lowest common denominator' because of the way used by the
Yeah, OK on smartphones, so the world is reduced to the lowest common
denominator ...
reducing it to landscape is the common denominator.
majority of people purely because have no clue about the factors involved.
The majority of people are rarely the smartest .
Yes, so ... ?But the worst of all is changing orientation of the scene while filming. >>>>>That's not a video.
In the days of film most SLRs where used in landscape, but some like myself when taking portraits
tended to hold the camera upright which was far more difficult to handhold.
Landsape and portrait came long before film and video.
Each had a particualar use to show what the person wanted you to see.
I'm pretty sure if Leonardo da Vinci had wanted to do a video of the Mona Lisa smiling I'd think he would use portrait mode rather than landscapePortrait orientation is very appropriate for, um, portraits. Wow how
and have to chop off her hands.
about that. Vert resolution identical with either source orientation
when displayed on a landscape device such as a TV or video monitor.
You'll notice most childrens book are in landscape format while the vast majority of other books are on portait .
I wonder why.
The article is not terribly interesting, but the comments at the bottom
are funny: https://petapixel.com/2022/11/11/davinci-resolve-18-1-adds-support-for-social-media-friendly-vertical-video/
Some people do not understand that nowadays the primary viewing device
is a smartphone.
--
Alfred Molon
On Sunday, 13 November 2022 at 16:40:11 UTC-5, Alfred Molon wrote:
The article is not terribly interesting, but the comments at the bottom
are funny:
https://petapixel.com/2022/11/11/davinci-resolve-18-1-adds-support-for-social-media-friendly-vertical-video/
Some people do not understand that nowadays the primary viewing device
is a smartphone.
--
Alfred Molon
Smartphone users aren't photographers or videographers of any note unless they realized that horizontal filming MATCHES our output devices.
Smartphone users aren't photographers or videographers of any note unless they realized that horizontal filming MATCHES our output devices.
But not THEIR output devices.
In article <0vmp4j-132.ln1@Telcontar.valinor>, Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
Smartphone users aren't photographers or videographers of any note unless >>> they realized that horizontal filming MATCHES our output devices.
But not THEIR output devices.
if they take videos for their own use then they can do whatever they
want.
the problem is that they take videos for public consumption, therefore,
they must match what the public expects (and in many cases, demands).
failing to do that makes them ignorant and inconsiderate.
In article <0vmp4j-132.ln1@Telcontar.valinor>, Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
Smartphone users aren't photographers or videographers of any note unless >>> they realized that horizontal filming MATCHES our output devices.
But not THEIR output devices.
if they take videos for their own use then they can do whatever they
want.
the problem is that they take videos for public consumption, therefore,
they must match what the public expects (and in many cases, demands).
failing to do that makes them ignorant and inconsiderate.
They post videos to other users of whatever app they use in their phones.
Then somebody finds it and posts it on TV.
In article <jihq4j-1lh.ln1@Telcontar.valinor>, Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
They post videos to other users of whatever app they use in their phones.
sometimes. not always.
Then somebody finds it and posts it on TV.
one of many reasons why it's a problem.
or someone wants to watch it on a laptop or desktop computer. not
everyone wants to watch a video on a phone.
In article <nlhq4j-1lh.ln1@Telcontar.valinor>, Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
Just yesterday I hit on a professionally made commercial video, shot in
portrait. Obviously the target audience is young people using phones.
anecdote != data
On 19/11/2022 2:28 am, Whisky-dave wrote:
On Thursday, 17 November 2022 at 22:38:33 UTC, geoff wrote:
Yes if viewing portrait with a
portrait device at same res then great. But you may have noticed that
the broadcast of Artimus launch broadcast was landscape.
Because that's how the TV cameras were mounted.Yes NASA and 'film-makers' are pretty dumb. They don't know about camera orientations, and how to mount a camera for portrait even if they wanted
I don;t think there's an option to verticaly mount them and it probabbly wouldn't
occur to a film maker to do it anyway.
to. We are so much more clever.
Just as well most viewers viewed the launch on a landscape display ...
at least any who were particularly interested.
Being 'the lowest common denominator' because of the way used by theYeah, OK on smartphones, so the world is reduced to the lowest common >>>> denominator ...
reducing it to landscape is the common denominator.
majority of people purely because have no clue about the factors involved.
The majority of people are rarely the smartest .Trump proved that once.
Yes, so ... ?But the worst of all is changing orientation of the scene while filming.That's not a video.
In the days of film most SLRs where used in landscape, but some like myself when taking portraits
tended to hold the camera upright which was far more difficult to handhold.
Landsape and portrait came long before film and video.
Each had a particualar use to show what the person wanted you to see.Yes ...
I'm pretty sure if Leonardo da Vinci had wanted to do a video of the Mona Lisa smiling I'd think he would use portrait mode rather than landscapePortrait orientation is very appropriate for, um, portraits. Wow how
and have to chop off her hands.
about that. Vert resolution identical with either source orientation
when displayed on a landscape device such as a TV or video monitor.
You'll notice most childrens book are in landscape format while the vast majority of other books are on portait .Possibly because more childrens' books are primarily graphical, whilst
I wonder why.
adult books (apart from adult picture books (not adult-picture books,
that's different)) tend to be textual ?
geoff
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