• Popular Songs That Feature 7/4 Time

    From Norbert K@21:1/5 to All on Wed Dec 22 05:11:19 2021
    This is off the top of my head, and I hope others will add to my list:

    1. The Beatles, "All You Need Is Love."

    2. Pink Floyd, "Money."

    3. Cat Stevens, "Rubylove."

    4. Rush, "Tom Sawyer," "Red Barchetta," "Limelight," and dozens of others.

    5. The Police, "Mother."

    6. "Red Hot Chili Peppers, "Ethiopia."

    7. Blondie, "Heart of Glass." Just a few bars of 7 tucked into the, uh, instrumental section. I'm surprised they even attempted it.

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  • From RJKellog@yahoo.com@21:1/5 to Bruce on Wed Dec 22 06:38:29 2021
    On Wednesday, December 22, 2021 at 9:20:59 AM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 22, 2021 at 8:11:21 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
    This is off the top of my head, and I hope others will add to my list:
    3. Cat Stevens, "Rubylove."
    5. The Police, "Mother."

    Where the fuck were these "popular," in your house?

    I don't think I ever heard that one by the Police.

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to Norbert K on Wed Dec 22 06:20:57 2021
    On Wednesday, December 22, 2021 at 8:11:21 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
    This is off the top of my head, and I hope others will add to my list:

    3. Cat Stevens, "Rubylove."
    5. The Police, "Mother."

    Where the fuck were these "popular," in your house?

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  • From Norbert K@21:1/5 to Bruce on Wed Dec 22 09:34:15 2021
    On Wednesday, December 22, 2021 at 12:27:40 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 22, 2021 at 12:25:58 PM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 22, 2021 at 9:20:59 AM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 22, 2021 at 8:11:21 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
    This is off the top of my head, and I hope others will add to my list: 3. Cat Stevens, "Rubylove."
    5. The Police, "Mother."

    Where the fuck were these "popular," in your house?
    "Rubylove" is from Stevens' extemely successful "Teaser and the Firecat" album and received its share of airplay.

    "Mother" is from the spectacularly commercially successful Synchronicity album. Maybe it was only popular in my house; it's not hard to imagine fans of "Every Breath You Take" skipping it. My friends and I loved how Andy Summers treated it as an
    opportunity to rebel against Sting's increasingly syrupy stuff (though "Synchronity II" has its adventurous aspects) through dissonance, a creepy theme, and the odd time.
    I didn't like anything by the Police.

    I like very few of their songs (they are WAY too repetitive) but Andy Summers and Stewart Copeland were good, IMO, on their respective instruments.

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to Norbert K on Wed Dec 22 09:27:39 2021
    On Wednesday, December 22, 2021 at 12:25:58 PM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 22, 2021 at 9:20:59 AM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 22, 2021 at 8:11:21 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
    This is off the top of my head, and I hope others will add to my list: 3. Cat Stevens, "Rubylove."
    5. The Police, "Mother."

    Where the fuck were these "popular," in your house?
    "Rubylove" is from Stevens' extemely successful "Teaser and the Firecat" album and received its share of airplay.

    "Mother" is from the spectacularly commercially successful Synchronicity album. Maybe it was only popular in my house; it's not hard to imagine fans of "Every Breath You Take" skipping it. My friends and I loved how Andy Summers treated it as an
    opportunity to rebel against Sting's increasingly syrupy stuff (though "Synchronity II" has its adventurous aspects) through dissonance, a creepy theme, and the odd time.

    I didn't like anything by the Police.

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  • From Norbert K@21:1/5 to RJKe...@yahoo.com on Wed Dec 22 09:40:27 2021
    On Wednesday, December 22, 2021 at 9:38:31 AM UTC-5, RJKe...@yahoo.com wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 22, 2021 at 9:20:59 AM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 22, 2021 at 8:11:21 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
    This is off the top of my head, and I hope others will add to my list:
    3. Cat Stevens, "Rubylove."
    5. The Police, "Mother."

    Where the fuck were these "popular," in your house?
    I don't think I ever heard that one by the Police.

    So give it a listen. It's completely different from everything else the Police recorded.

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  • From Norbert K@21:1/5 to Bruce on Wed Dec 22 09:25:57 2021
    On Wednesday, December 22, 2021 at 9:20:59 AM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 22, 2021 at 8:11:21 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
    This is off the top of my head, and I hope others will add to my list:
    3. Cat Stevens, "Rubylove."
    5. The Police, "Mother."

    Where the fuck were these "popular," in your house?

    "Rubylove" is from Stevens' extemely successful "Teaser and the Firecat" album and received its share of airplay.

    "Mother" is from the spectacularly commercially successful Synchronicity album. Maybe it was only popular in my house; it's not hard to imagine fans of "Every Breath You Take" skipping it. My friends and I loved how Andy Summers treated it as an
    opportunity to rebel against Sting's increasingly syrupy stuff (though "Synchronity II" has its adventurous aspects) through dissonance, a creepy theme, and the odd time.

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  • From Norbert K@21:1/5 to RJKe...@yahoo.com on Wed Dec 22 09:46:56 2021
    On Wednesday, December 22, 2021 at 9:38:31 AM UTC-5, RJKe...@yahoo.com wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 22, 2021 at 9:20:59 AM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 22, 2021 at 8:11:21 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
    This is off the top of my head, and I hope others will add to my list:
    3. Cat Stevens, "Rubylove."
    5. The Police, "Mother."

    Where the fuck were these "popular," in your house?
    I don't think I ever heard that one by the Police.

    "Mother" sounds a *lot* like King Crimson. Sure enough, Summers had recorded an album with Crimson guitarist Robert Fripp just months before work on Synchronicity began.

    Fripp's influence on "Mother" is obvious.

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  • From P-Dub@21:1/5 to Norbert K on Wed Dec 22 11:25:49 2021
    On Wednesday, December 22, 2021 at 8:11:21 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
    This is off the top of my head, and I hope others will add to my list:

    1. The Beatles, "All You Need Is Love."

    2. Pink Floyd, "Money."

    3. Cat Stevens, "Rubylove."

    4. Rush, "Tom Sawyer," "Red Barchetta," "Limelight," and dozens of others.

    5. The Police, "Mother."

    6. "Red Hot Chili Peppers, "Ethiopia."

    7. Blondie, "Heart of Glass." Just a few bars of 7 tucked into the, uh, instrumental section. I'm surprised they even attempted it.

    Estimated Prophet - Grateful Dead

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  • From geoff@21:1/5 to Bruce on Thu Dec 23 09:06:51 2021
    On 23/12/2021 6:27 am, Bruce wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 22, 2021 at 12:25:58 PM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 22, 2021 at 9:20:59 AM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 22, 2021 at 8:11:21 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
    This is off the top of my head, and I hope others will add to my list: >>>> 3. Cat Stevens, "Rubylove."
    5. The Police, "Mother."

    Where the fuck were these "popular," in your house?
    "Rubylove" is from Stevens' extemely successful "Teaser and the Firecat" album and received its share of airplay.

    "Mother" is from the spectacularly commercially successful Synchronicity album. Maybe it was only popular in my house; it's not hard to imagine fans of "Every Breath You Take" skipping it. My friends and I loved how Andy Summers treated it as an
    opportunity to rebel against Sting's increasingly syrupy stuff (though "Synchronity II" has its adventurous aspects) through dissonance, a creepy theme, and the odd time.

    I didn't like anything by the Police.


    Seems you don't like much by anybody to any degree of depth. makes yo
    wonder why you like The Beatles - presumably you do, at least some of ...

    geoff

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  • From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to Norbert K on Wed Dec 22 20:58:47 2021
    On 22/12/2021 13:11, Norbert K wrote:
    This is off the top of my head, and I hope others will add to my list:

    1. The Beatles, "All You Need Is Love."

    2. Pink Floyd, "Money."

    3. Cat Stevens, "Rubylove."

    4. Rush, "Tom Sawyer," "Red Barchetta," "Limelight," and dozens of others.

    5. The Police, "Mother."

    6. "Red Hot Chili Peppers, "Ethiopia."

    7. Blondie, "Heart of Glass." Just a few bars of 7 tucked into the, uh, instrumental section. I'm surprised they even attempted it.

    Alice in Chains - "Them Bones", from their "Dirt" album. Although I'm
    not sure if "Them Bones" would be considered as popular...

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to geoff on Wed Dec 22 14:30:18 2021
    On Wednesday, December 22, 2021 at 3:07:00 PM UTC-5, geoff wrote:
    On 23/12/2021 6:27 am, Bruce wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 22, 2021 at 12:25:58 PM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 22, 2021 at 9:20:59 AM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 22, 2021 at 8:11:21 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote: >>>> This is off the top of my head, and I hope others will add to my list: >>>> 3. Cat Stevens, "Rubylove."
    5. The Police, "Mother."

    Where the fuck were these "popular," in your house?
    "Rubylove" is from Stevens' extemely successful "Teaser and the Firecat" album and received its share of airplay.

    "Mother" is from the spectacularly commercially successful Synchronicity album. Maybe it was only popular in my house; it's not hard to imagine fans of "Every Breath You Take" skipping it. My friends and I loved how Andy Summers treated it as an
    opportunity to rebel against Sting's increasingly syrupy stuff (though "Synchronity II" has its adventurous aspects) through dissonance, a creepy theme, and the odd time.

    I didn't like anything by the Police.
    Seems you don't like much by anybody to any degree of depth.

    Here are my 100 favorites by James Brown. I think that qualifies as "depth," no?

    1. Doing It To Death
    2. Out of Sight
    3. Papa's Got A Brand New Bag
    4. Baby, You're Right
    5. Please, Please, Please
    6. Ain't That A Groove
    7. Get Up I Feel Like Being A Sex Machine
    8. Chonnie-On-Chon
    9. No, No, No, No,
    10. I'll Go Crazy
    11. I Feel That Old Feeling Coming On
    12. Night Train
    13. Tell Me What I Did Wrong
    14. Cold Sweat
    15. Come Over Here
    16. Bring It Up
    17. I Got You (I Feel Good)
    18. That Dood It
    19. Caldonia
    20. Good Good Lovin'
    21. Maybe The Last Time
    22. Bewildered
    23. Call Me Super Bad
    24. Let's Make It
    25. I Know It's True
    26. Get On The Good Foot
    27. I Got The Feelin'
    28. Oh Baby Don't You Weep
    29. Baby Cries Over The Ocean
    30. I've Got To Change
    31. Mashed Potatoes U.S.A.
    32. This Old Heart
    33. I Won't Plead No More
    34. Just Won't Do Right
    35. You Don't Have To Go
    36. I Don't Mind
    37. Talking Loud And Saying Nothing
    38. Lost Someone
    39. Hot Pants (She Got To Use What She Got To Get What She Wants)
    40. You've Got The Power
    41. I'll Never, Never Let You Go
    42. America Is My Home
    43. Santa Claus Go Straight To The Ghetto
    44. There Was A Time
    45. There Must Be A Reason
    46. Why Do You Do Me
    47. Hold My Baby's Hand
    48. Try Me
    49. Let A Man Come In And Do The Popcorn
    50. I'm A Greedy Man
    51. I Don't Care
    52. Honky Tonk
    53. Suds
    54. Give It Up Or Turnit A Loose
    55. You're Mine, You're Mine
    56. Just You And Me, Darling
    57. That's When I Lost My Heart
    58. Fine Old Foxy Self
    59. Don't Be A Dropout
    60. Kansas City
    61. Papa Don't Take No Mess
    62. Soul Power
    63. Say It Loud (I'm Black And I'm Proud)
    64. Get It Together
    65. Licking Stick-Licking Stick
    66. Mother Popcorn
    67. Let Yourself Go
    68. Get Up Offa That Thing
    69. It's A New Day
    70. How Long Darling
    71. I Don't Want Nobody To Give Me Nothing
    72. I Got Ants In My Pants
    73. The Payback
    74. Messing With The Blues
    75. Shout And Shimmy
    76. Living in America
    77. Think
    78. I Want You So Bad
    79. Wonder When You're Coming Home
    80. Why Does Everything Happen To Me
    81. The Bells
    82. Escape-ism
    83. I Can't Stand Myself
    84. Money Won't Change You
    85. Ain't It Funky Now
    86. Make it Funky
    87. There it Is
    88. It Hurts To Tell You
    89. I Don't Know
    90. Have Mercy Baby
    91. Don't Let it happen To Me
    92. Dancin' Little Thing
    93. Gonna Try
    94. Begging, Begging
    95. Signed, Sealed and Delivered
    96. Stone Fox
    97. Like A Baby
    98. I've Got Money
    99. I Walked Alone
    100. Got To Cry

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to geoff on Wed Dec 22 14:28:11 2021
    On Wednesday, December 22, 2021 at 3:07:00 PM UTC-5, geoff wrote:
    On 23/12/2021 6:27 am, Bruce wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 22, 2021 at 12:25:58 PM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 22, 2021 at 9:20:59 AM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 22, 2021 at 8:11:21 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote: >>>> This is off the top of my head, and I hope others will add to my list: >>>> 3. Cat Stevens, "Rubylove."
    5. The Police, "Mother."

    Where the fuck were these "popular," in your house?
    "Rubylove" is from Stevens' extemely successful "Teaser and the Firecat" album and received its share of airplay.

    "Mother" is from the spectacularly commercially successful Synchronicity album. Maybe it was only popular in my house; it's not hard to imagine fans of "Every Breath You Take" skipping it. My friends and I loved how Andy Summers treated it as an
    opportunity to rebel against Sting's increasingly syrupy stuff (though "Synchronity II" has its adventurous aspects) through dissonance, a creepy theme, and the odd time.

    I didn't like anything by the Police.
    Seems you don't like much by anybody to any degree of depth.

    On the contrary. Here are my 100 favorite recording artists. Instead of the Beatles being the START of my favorite artists like most of you, they are more towards the end of my favorite artists. I much prefer 1950s music to anything that came after the
    50s.

    1 - Fats Domino
    2 - Beatles
    3 - Elvis Presley
    4 - Little Richard
    5 - Hank Williams
    6 - Joe Turner
    7 - Drifters
    8 - Muddy Waters
    9 - Smiley Lewis
    10 - Clovers
    11 - Carl Perkins
    12 - Buddy Holly & Crickets
    13 - B.B. King
    14 - Bo Diddley
    15 - Hank Ballard & Midnighters / Royals
    16 - Chuck Berry
    17 - James Brown
    18 - Howlin' Wolf
    19 - Wynonie Harris
    20 - Robins
    21 - Orioles
    22 - Five Royales
    23 - Creedence Clearwater Revival / John Fogerty
    24 - Five Keys
    25 - Ray Charles
    26 - Rolling Stones
    27 - Beach Boys
    28 - Jerry Lee Lewis
    29 - Spaniels
    30 - Temptations
    31 - Elmore James
    32 - Bobby "Blue" Bland
    33 - Sonny Boy Williamson II (Rice Miller)
    34 - Sticks McGhee
    35 - Huey "Piano" Smith and the Clowns
    36 - Dominoes
    37 - Johnny Burnette Trio
    38 - Louis Jordan
    39 - Spiders
    40 - Flamingos
    41 - Moonglows
    42 - Coasters
    43 - Curtis Mayfield & Impressions
    44 - Eddie Cochran
    45 - Lloyd Price
    46 - Bill Haley & Comets
    47 - Buddy & Ella Johnson
    48 - Ivory Joe Hunter
    49 - Swallows
    50 - Little Walter
    51 - Jimmy Reed
    52 - Everly Brothers
    53 - Gene Vincent & Blue Caps
    54 - Johnny Cash
    55 - Amos Milburn
    56 - Roy Brown
    57 - Jack Scott
    58 - El Dorados
    59 - Dave Bartholomew
    60 - Champion Jack Dupree
    61 - Roy Orbison
    62 - Smokey Robinson & Miracles
    63 - Checkers
    64 - Jimmy McCracklin
    65 - Little Esther
    66 - Eddie "Cleanhead" Vinson
    67 - Marvin Gaye
    68 - Tommy James & Shondells
    69 - Jackie Wilson
    70 - Mills Brothers
    71 - Ruth Brown
    72 - Bob Dylan
    73 - Shirley & Lee
    74 - Aretha Franklin
    75 - Dells
    76 - Wilson Pickett
    77 - Little Milton
    78 - Marvin & Johnny (Jesse & Marvin)
    79 - Heartbeats / Shep & Limelites
    80 - Harptones
    81 - Doors
    82 - Little Willie John
    83 - Ravens
    84 - Marty Robbins
    85 - Lamplighters
    86 - Willie Mabon
    87 - Guitar Slim
    88 - Solomon Burke
    89 - Jerry Butler
    90 - Roy Milton
    91 - Rosco Gordon
    92 - Charlie Feathers
    93 - Penguins
    94 - J.B. Lenore
    95 - Big Maybelle
    96 - Cadillacs
    97 - Chuck Willis
    98 - Mac Curtis
    99 - Cardinals
    100 - Slim Harpo

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  • From geoff@21:1/5 to Bruce on Thu Dec 23 12:33:55 2021
    On 23/12/2021 11:28 am, Bruce wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 22, 2021 at 3:07:00 PM UTC-5, geoff wrote:
    On 23/12/2021 6:27 am, Bruce wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 22, 2021 at 12:25:58 PM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 22, 2021 at 9:20:59 AM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 22, 2021 at 8:11:21 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote: >>>>>> This is off the top of my head, and I hope others will add to my list: >>>>>> 3. Cat Stevens, "Rubylove."
    5. The Police, "Mother."

    Where the fuck were these "popular," in your house?
    "Rubylove" is from Stevens' extemely successful "Teaser and the Firecat" album and received its share of airplay.

    "Mother" is from the spectacularly commercially successful Synchronicity album. Maybe it was only popular in my house; it's not hard to imagine fans of "Every Breath You Take" skipping it. My friends and I loved how Andy Summers treated it as an
    opportunity to rebel against Sting's increasingly syrupy stuff (though "Synchronity II" has its adventurous aspects) through dissonance, a creepy theme, and the odd time.

    I didn't like anything by the Police.
    Seems you don't like much by anybody to any degree of depth.

    On the contrary. Here are my 100 favorite recording artists. Instead of the Beatles being the START of my favorite artists like most of you, they are more towards the end of my favorite artists. I much prefer 1950s music to anything that came after the
    50s.

    1 - Fats Domino
    2 - Beatles
    3 - Elvis Presley
    4 - Little Richard
    5 - Hank Williams
    6 - Joe Turner
    7 - Drifters
    8 -

    OK, so your musical appreciation is somewhat restricted to a particular
    era and range of styles. OK.

    But don't belittle everything else because you don't know, understand,
    or appreciate it.

    I still wonder why you are 'here'.

    geoff

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  • From geoff@21:1/5 to Bruce on Thu Dec 23 12:34:36 2021
    On 23/12/2021 11:30 am, Bruce wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 22, 2021 at 3:07:00 PM UTC-5, geoff wrote:
    On 23/12/2021 6:27 am, Bruce wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 22, 2021 at 12:25:58 PM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 22, 2021 at 9:20:59 AM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 22, 2021 at 8:11:21 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote: >>>>>> This is off the top of my head, and I hope others will add to my list: >>>>>> 3. Cat Stevens, "Rubylove."
    5. The Police, "Mother."

    Where the fuck were these "popular," in your house?
    "Rubylove" is from Stevens' extemely successful "Teaser and the Firecat" album and received its share of airplay.

    "Mother" is from the spectacularly commercially successful Synchronicity album. Maybe it was only popular in my house; it's not hard to imagine fans of "Every Breath You Take" skipping it. My friends and I loved how Andy Summers treated it as an
    opportunity to rebel against Sting's increasingly syrupy stuff (though "Synchronity II" has its adventurous aspects) through dissonance, a creepy theme, and the odd time.

    I didn't like anything by the Police.
    Seems you don't like much by anybody to any degree of depth.

    Here are my 100 favorites by James Brown. I think that qualifies as "depth," no?

    1. Doing It To Death
    2. Out of Sight
    3. Papa's Got A Brand New Bag
    4. Baby, You're Right
    5. Please, Please, Please
    6. Ain't That A Groove
    7. Get Up I Feel Like Being A Sex Machine
    8. Chonnie-On-Chon
    9. No, No, No, No,
    10. I'll Go Crazy
    11. I Feel That Old Feeling Coming On
    12. Night Train
    13. Tell Me What I Did Wrong
    14. Cold Sweat
    15. Come Over Here
    16. Bring It Up
    17. I Got You (I Feel Good)
    18. That Dood It
    19. Caldonia
    20. Good Good Lovin'
    21. Maybe The Last Time
    22. Bewildered
    23. Call Me Super Bad
    24. Let's Make It
    25. I Know It's True
    26. Get On The Good Foot
    27. I Got The Feelin'
    28. Oh Baby Don't You Weep
    29. Baby Cries Over The Ocean
    30. I've Got To Change
    31. Mashed Potatoes U.S.A.
    32. This Old Heart
    33. I Won't Plead No More
    34. Just Won't Do Right
    35. You Don't Have To Go
    36. I Don't Mind
    37. Talking Loud And Saying Nothing
    38. Lost Someone
    39. Hot Pants (She Got To Use What She Got To Get What She Wants)
    40. You've Got The Power
    41. I'll Never, Never Let You Go
    42. America Is My Home
    43. Santa Claus Go Straight To The Ghetto
    44. There Was A Time
    45. There Must Be A Reason
    46. Why Do You Do Me
    47. Hold My Baby's Hand
    48. Try Me
    49. Let A Man Come In And Do The Popcorn
    50. I'm A Greedy Man
    51. I Don't Care
    52. Honky Tonk
    53. Suds
    54. Give It Up Or Turnit A Loose
    55. You're Mine, You're Mine
    56. Just You And Me, Darling
    57. That's When I Lost My Heart
    58. Fine Old Foxy Self
    59. Don't Be A Dropout
    60. Kansas City
    61. Papa Don't Take No Mess
    62. Soul Power
    63. Say It Loud (I'm Black And I'm Proud)
    64. Get It Together
    65. Licking Stick-Licking Stick
    66. Mother Popcorn
    67. Let Yourself Go
    68. Get Up Offa That Thing
    69. It's A New Day
    70. How Long Darling
    71. I Don't Want Nobody To Give Me Nothing
    72. I Got Ants In My Pants
    73. The Payback
    74. Messing With The Blues
    75. Shout And Shimmy
    76. Living in America
    77. Think
    78. I Want You So Bad
    79. Wonder When You're Coming Home
    80. Why Does Everything Happen To Me
    81. The Bells
    82. Escape-ism
    83. I Can't Stand Myself
    84. Money Won't Change You
    85. Ain't It Funky Now
    86. Make it Funky
    87. There it Is
    88. It Hurts To Tell You
    89. I Don't Know
    90. Have Mercy Baby
    91. Don't Let it happen To Me
    92. Dancin' Little Thing
    93. Gonna Try
    94. Begging, Begging
    95. Signed, Sealed and Delivered
    96. Stone Fox
    97. Like A Baby
    98. I've Got Money
    99. I Walked Alone
    100. Got To Cry


    OCD ?

    geoff

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to geoff on Wed Dec 22 16:40:07 2021
    On Wednesday, December 22, 2021 at 6:34:07 PM UTC-5, geoff wrote:

    OK, so your musical appreciation is somewhat restricted to a particular
    era and range of styles. OK.

    No more restricted than most people's appreciation, and probably less restricted than most...... just a different era and range of styles than most other people. My appreciation for the most part runs from the early 1900s through the mid 1980s, and
    includes a wide range of styles including blues, jazz, gospel, soul, funk, hip hop, punk, new wave, Prog, R&B, rockabilly, Power Pop, traditional pop. country, rock and roll, bubble gum, country rock, folk, Cajun, Doo Wop, Jive, Swing, Big Band and
    reggae.

    Most here pretty much like a much shorter span than I do, which is approximately from the early 60s through the 1980s or 1990s, and also a smaller array of stiles which do not include too much black music. I get the feeling that most people in this group
    listen mainly to white guitar oriented rock music from a 30 year period (early 60s through early 90s).

    Here, for instance, are my favorite artists of the 1920s and the 1930s.

    FAVORITE ARTISTS 1920-1929
    1 - Jimmie Rodgers
    2 - Bessie Smith
    3 - Louis Armstrong
    4 - Al Jolson
    5 - Paul Whiteman
    6 - Gid Tanner and the Skillet Lickers
    7 - Blind Willie McTell
    8 - Ted Lewis
    9 - Sophie Tucker
    10 - Ethel Waters

    FAVORITE ARTISTS 1930-1939
    1 - Mills Brothers
    2 - Billie Holiday
    3 - Benny Goodman
    4 - Louis Armstrong
    5 - Ella Fitzgerald
    6 - Duke Ellington
    7 - Ink Spots
    8 - Bing Crosby
    9 - Glenn Miller
    10 - Boswell Sisters / Connee Boswell

    Do you listen to a lot of 1920s and 1930s music, Geoff?

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  • From geoff@21:1/5 to Bruce on Thu Dec 23 14:23:57 2021
    On 23/12/2021 1:40 pm, Bruce wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 22, 2021 at 6:34:07 PM UTC-5, geoff wrote:

    OK, so your musical appreciation is somewhat restricted to a particular
    era and range of styles. OK.

    No more restricted than most people's appreciation, and probably less restricted than most...... just a different era and range of styles than most other people. My appreciation for the most part runs from the early 1900s through the mid 1980s, and
    includes a wide range of styles including blues, jazz, gospel, soul, funk, hip hop, punk, new wave, Prog, R&B, rockabilly, Power Pop, traditional pop. country, rock and roll, bubble gum, country rock, folk, Cajun, Doo Wop, Jive, Swing, Big Band and
    reggae.

    Most here pretty much like a much shorter span than I do, which is approximately from the early 60s through the 1980s or 1990s, and also a smaller array of stiles which do not include too much black music. I get the feeling that most people in this
    group listen mainly to white guitar oriented rock music from a 30 year period (early 60s through early 90s).

    Here, for instance, are my favorite artists of the 1920s and the 1930s.

    FAVORITE ARTISTS 1920-1929
    1 - Jimmie Rodgers
    2 - Bessie Smith
    3 - Louis Armstrong
    4 - Al Jolson
    5 - Paul Whiteman
    6 - Gid Tanner and the Skillet Lickers
    7 - Blind Willie McTell
    8 - Ted Lewis
    9 - Sophie Tucker
    10 - Ethel Waters

    FAVORITE ARTISTS 1930-1939
    1 - Mills Brothers
    2 - Billie Holiday
    3 - Benny Goodman
    4 - Louis Armstrong
    5 - Ella Fitzgerald
    6 - Duke Ellington
    7 - Ink Spots
    8 - Bing Crosby
    9 - Glenn Miller
    10 - Boswell Sisters / Connee Boswell

    Do you listen to a lot of 1920s and 1930s music, Geoff?





    Occasionally, but not that much.

    FWIW Thelonious Monk stayed at my parents little hotel where I lived as
    a child. He started playing in the '30s.

    And one of my fave albums is We Get Requests, Ellington, but not of his 20s/30s/40s/or even 50s years for that matter.

    Certainly a lot, if not most, of the albums of the eras you quote are
    less likely to be meaningfully sequenced.

    geoff

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to geoff on Wed Dec 22 17:28:17 2021
    On Wednesday, December 22, 2021 at 8:24:08 PM UTC-5, geoff wrote:
    On 23/12/2021 1:40 pm, Bruce wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 22, 2021 at 6:34:07 PM UTC-5, geoff wrote:

    OK, so your musical appreciation is somewhat restricted to a particular >> era and range of styles. OK.

    No more restricted than most people's appreciation, and probably less restricted than most...... just a different era and range of styles than most other people. My appreciation for the most part runs from the early 1900s through the mid 1980s, and
    includes a wide range of styles including blues, jazz, gospel, soul, funk, hip hop, punk, new wave, Prog, R&B, rockabilly, Power Pop, traditional pop. country, rock and roll, bubble gum, country rock, folk, Cajun, Doo Wop, Jive, Swing, Big Band and
    reggae.

    Most here pretty much like a much shorter span than I do, which is approximately from the early 60s through the 1980s or 1990s, and also a smaller array of stiles which do not include too much black music. I get the feeling that most people in this
    group listen mainly to white guitar oriented rock music from a 30 year period (early 60s through early 90s).

    Here, for instance, are my favorite artists of the 1920s and the 1930s.

    FAVORITE ARTISTS 1920-1929
    1 - Jimmie Rodgers
    2 - Bessie Smith
    3 - Louis Armstrong
    4 - Al Jolson
    5 - Paul Whiteman
    6 - Gid Tanner and the Skillet Lickers
    7 - Blind Willie McTell
    8 - Ted Lewis
    9 - Sophie Tucker
    10 - Ethel Waters

    FAVORITE ARTISTS 1930-1939
    1 - Mills Brothers
    2 - Billie Holiday
    3 - Benny Goodman
    4 - Louis Armstrong
    5 - Ella Fitzgerald
    6 - Duke Ellington
    7 - Ink Spots
    8 - Bing Crosby
    9 - Glenn Miller
    10 - Boswell Sisters / Connee Boswell

    Do you listen to a lot of 1920s and 1930s music, Geoff?



    Occasionally, but not that much.

    FWIW Thelonious Monk stayed at my parents little hotel where I lived as
    a child. He started playing in the '30s.

    And one of my fave albums is We Get Requests, Ellington, but not of his 20s/30s/40s/or even 50s years for that matter.

    Certainly a lot, if not most, of the albums of the eras you quote are
    less likely to be meaningfully sequenced.

    There were no albums before the 50s, and very few before like 1956. As far as I'm concerned, it's a singles world.

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to geoff on Wed Dec 22 17:29:43 2021
    On Wednesday, December 22, 2021 at 8:24:08 PM UTC-5, geoff wrote:
    On 23/12/2021 1:40 pm, Bruce wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 22, 2021 at 6:34:07 PM UTC-5, geoff wrote:

    OK, so your musical appreciation is somewhat restricted to a particular >> era and range of styles. OK.

    No more restricted than most people's appreciation, and probably less restricted than most...... just a different era and range of styles than most other people. My appreciation for the most part runs from the early 1900s through the mid 1980s, and
    includes a wide range of styles including blues, jazz, gospel, soul, funk, hip hop, punk, new wave, Prog, R&B, rockabilly, Power Pop, traditional pop. country, rock and roll, bubble gum, country rock, folk, Cajun, Doo Wop, Jive, Swing, Big Band and
    reggae.

    Most here pretty much like a much shorter span than I do, which is approximately from the early 60s through the 1980s or 1990s, and also a smaller array of stiles which do not include too much black music. I get the feeling that most people in this
    group listen mainly to white guitar oriented rock music from a 30 year period (early 60s through early 90s).

    Here, for instance, are my favorite artists of the 1920s and the 1930s.

    FAVORITE ARTISTS 1920-1929
    1 - Jimmie Rodgers
    2 - Bessie Smith
    3 - Louis Armstrong
    4 - Al Jolson
    5 - Paul Whiteman
    6 - Gid Tanner and the Skillet Lickers
    7 - Blind Willie McTell
    8 - Ted Lewis
    9 - Sophie Tucker
    10 - Ethel Waters

    FAVORITE ARTISTS 1930-1939
    1 - Mills Brothers
    2 - Billie Holiday
    3 - Benny Goodman
    4 - Louis Armstrong
    5 - Ella Fitzgerald
    6 - Duke Ellington
    7 - Ink Spots
    8 - Bing Crosby
    9 - Glenn Miller
    10 - Boswell Sisters / Connee Boswell

    Do you listen to a lot of 1920s and 1930s music, Geoff?



    Occasionally, but not that much.

    What are your favorites by the Mills Brothers?

    Here's my 50 favorites.

    1. Organ Grinder's Swing
    2. Nagasaki
    3. Rockin' Chair
    4. It Don't Mean A Thing (If You Ain't Got That Swing)
    5. F.D.R. Jones
    6. Flat Foot Floogee (Louis Armstrong)
    7. I've Found A New Baby
    8. Jeepers Creepers
    9. Jungle Fever
    10. Nobody's Sweetheart
    11. Lazy Bones
    12. Caravan
    13. Long About Midnight
    14. Bugle Call Rag
    15. The Love Bug Will Bite
    16. Till Then
    17. Georgia On My Mind
    18. Big Boy Blue (Ella Fitzgerald)
    19. What's The Reason (I'm Not Pleasin' You?)
    20. Carry Me Back To Old Virginny (Louis Armstrong)
    21. Paper Doll
    22. Tiger Rag
    23. Down Among The Sheltering Palms (Al Jolson)
    24. Shine (Bing Crosby)
    25. You Always Hurt The One You Love
    26. Dirt Dishin' Daisy
    27. W.P.A. (Louis Armstrong)
    28. Goodbye Blues
    29. I Heard
    30. The Old Folks At Home (Louis Armstrong)
    31. Darling Nellie Gray (Louis Armstrong)
    32. Smack Dab In The Middle
    33. Nevertheless
    34. Rockin' Chair Swing
    35. Diga Diga Doo
    36. Chinatown, My Chinatown
    37. Get A Job
    38. Limehouse Blues
    39. Swing It, Sister
    40. Rhythm Saved The World
    41. How'm I Doin'?
    42. Swing Is The Thing
    43. A Doughnut And A Dream
    44. Some of These Days
    45. Sweet Georgia Brown
    46. I Can't Give You Anything But Love
    47. Gloria
    48. Coney Island Washboard
    49. Star Dust
    50. Julius Caeser

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  • From geoff@21:1/5 to Bruce on Thu Dec 23 14:17:14 2021
    On 23/12/2021 1:41 pm, Bruce wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 22, 2021 at 6:34:44 PM UTC-5, geoff wrote:
    On 23/12/2021 11:30 am, Bruce wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 22, 2021 at 3:07:00 PM UTC-5, geoff wrote:
    On 23/12/2021 6:27 am, Bruce wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 22, 2021 at 12:25:58 PM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote: >>>>>> On Wednesday, December 22, 2021 at 9:20:59 AM UTC-5, Bruce wrote: >>>>>>> On Wednesday, December 22, 2021 at 8:11:21 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote: >>>>>>>> This is off the top of my head, and I hope others will add to my list: >>>>>>>> 3. Cat Stevens, "Rubylove."
    5. The Police, "Mother."

    Where the fuck were these "popular," in your house?
    "Rubylove" is from Stevens' extemely successful "Teaser and the Firecat" album and received its share of airplay.

    "Mother" is from the spectacularly commercially successful Synchronicity album. Maybe it was only popular in my house; it's not hard to imagine fans of "Every Breath You Take" skipping it. My friends and I loved how Andy Summers treated it as an
    opportunity to rebel against Sting's increasingly syrupy stuff (though "Synchronity II" has its adventurous aspects) through dissonance, a creepy theme, and the odd time.

    I didn't like anything by the Police.
    Seems you don't like much by anybody to any degree of depth.

    Here are my 100 favorites by James Brown. I think that qualifies as "depth," no?

    1. Doing It To Death
    2. Out of Sight
    3. Papa's Got A Brand New Bag
    4. Baby, You're Right
    5. Please, Please, Please
    6. Ain't That A Groove
    7. Get Up I Feel Like Being A Sex Machine
    8. Chonnie-On-Chon
    9. No, No, No, No,
    10. I'll Go Crazy
    11. I Feel That Old Feeling Coming On
    12. Night Train
    13. Tell Me What I Did Wrong
    14. Cold Sweat
    15. Come Over Here
    16. Bring It Up
    17. I Got You (I Feel Good)
    18. That Dood It
    19. Caldonia
    20. Good Good Lovin'
    21. Maybe The Last Time
    22. Bewildered
    23. Call Me Super Bad
    24. Let's Make It
    25. I Know It's True
    26. Get On The Good Foot
    27. I Got The Feelin'
    28. Oh Baby Don't You Weep
    29. Baby Cries Over The Ocean
    30. I've Got To Change
    31. Mashed Potatoes U.S.A.
    32. This Old Heart
    33. I Won't Plead No More
    34. Just Won't Do Right
    35. You Don't Have To Go
    36. I Don't Mind
    37. Talking Loud And Saying Nothing
    38. Lost Someone
    39. Hot Pants (She Got To Use What She Got To Get What She Wants)
    40. You've Got The Power
    41. I'll Never, Never Let You Go
    42. America Is My Home
    43. Santa Claus Go Straight To The Ghetto
    44. There Was A Time
    45. There Must Be A Reason
    46. Why Do You Do Me
    47. Hold My Baby's Hand
    48. Try Me
    49. Let A Man Come In And Do The Popcorn
    50. I'm A Greedy Man
    51. I Don't Care
    52. Honky Tonk
    53. Suds
    54. Give It Up Or Turnit A Loose
    55. You're Mine, You're Mine
    56. Just You And Me, Darling
    57. That's When I Lost My Heart
    58. Fine Old Foxy Self
    59. Don't Be A Dropout
    60. Kansas City
    61. Papa Don't Take No Mess
    62. Soul Power
    63. Say It Loud (I'm Black And I'm Proud)
    64. Get It Together
    65. Licking Stick-Licking Stick
    66. Mother Popcorn
    67. Let Yourself Go
    68. Get Up Offa That Thing
    69. It's A New Day
    70. How Long Darling
    71. I Don't Want Nobody To Give Me Nothing
    72. I Got Ants In My Pants
    73. The Payback
    74. Messing With The Blues
    75. Shout And Shimmy
    76. Living in America
    77. Think
    78. I Want You So Bad
    79. Wonder When You're Coming Home
    80. Why Does Everything Happen To Me
    81. The Bells
    82. Escape-ism
    83. I Can't Stand Myself
    84. Money Won't Change You
    85. Ain't It Funky Now
    86. Make it Funky
    87. There it Is
    88. It Hurts To Tell You
    89. I Don't Know
    90. Have Mercy Baby
    91. Don't Let it happen To Me
    92. Dancin' Little Thing
    93. Gonna Try
    94. Begging, Begging
    95. Signed, Sealed and Delivered
    96. Stone Fox
    97. Like A Baby
    98. I've Got Money
    99. I Walked Alone
    100. Got To Cry

    OCD ?

    Definitely have it, yes.

    Here are my favorites from 1956.

    1 ¦ I'm In Love Again ¦ Fats Domino
    2 ¦ Long Tall Sally ¦ Little Richard
    3 ¦ Don't Go No Farther ¦ Muddy Waters
    4 ¦ Honey Hush ¦ Johnny Burnette Trio
    5 ¦ The Train Kept A'Rollin' ¦ Johnny Burnette Trio
    6 ¦ Blue Monday ¦ Fats Domino
    7 ¦ Roll Over Beethoven ¦ Chuck Berry
    8 ¦ All Mama's Children ¦ Carl Perkins.
    .
    .
    .
    .
    .
    .

    and quite a lot more .

    ;- )

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to Bruce on Wed Dec 22 17:32:54 2021
    On Wednesday, December 22, 2021 at 8:29:44 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 22, 2021 at 8:24:08 PM UTC-5, geoff wrote:
    On 23/12/2021 1:40 pm, Bruce wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 22, 2021 at 6:34:07 PM UTC-5, geoff wrote:

    OK, so your musical appreciation is somewhat restricted to a particular >> era and range of styles. OK.

    No more restricted than most people's appreciation, and probably less restricted than most...... just a different era and range of styles than most other people. My appreciation for the most part runs from the early 1900s through the mid 1980s, and
    includes a wide range of styles including blues, jazz, gospel, soul, funk, hip hop, punk, new wave, Prog, R&B, rockabilly, Power Pop, traditional pop. country, rock and roll, bubble gum, country rock, folk, Cajun, Doo Wop, Jive, Swing, Big Band and
    reggae.

    Most here pretty much like a much shorter span than I do, which is approximately from the early 60s through the 1980s or 1990s, and also a smaller array of stiles which do not include too much black music. I get the feeling that most people in this
    group listen mainly to white guitar oriented rock music from a 30 year period (early 60s through early 90s).

    Here, for instance, are my favorite artists of the 1920s and the 1930s.

    FAVORITE ARTISTS 1920-1929
    1 - Jimmie Rodgers
    2 - Bessie Smith
    3 - Louis Armstrong
    4 - Al Jolson
    5 - Paul Whiteman
    6 - Gid Tanner and the Skillet Lickers
    7 - Blind Willie McTell
    8 - Ted Lewis
    9 - Sophie Tucker
    10 - Ethel Waters

    FAVORITE ARTISTS 1930-1939
    1 - Mills Brothers
    2 - Billie Holiday
    3 - Benny Goodman
    4 - Louis Armstrong
    5 - Ella Fitzgerald
    6 - Duke Ellington
    7 - Ink Spots
    8 - Bing Crosby
    9 - Glenn Miller
    10 - Boswell Sisters / Connee Boswell

    Do you listen to a lot of 1920s and 1930s music, Geoff?



    Occasionally, but not that much.
    What are your favorites by the Mills Brothers?

    Here's my 50 favorites.

    1. Organ Grinder's Swing
    2. Nagasaki
    3. Rockin' Chair
    4. It Don't Mean A Thing (If You Ain't Got That Swing)
    5. F.D.R. Jones
    6. Flat Foot Floogee (Louis Armstrong)
    7. I've Found A New Baby
    8. Jeepers Creepers
    9. Jungle Fever
    10. Nobody's Sweetheart
    11. Lazy Bones
    12. Caravan
    13. Long About Midnight
    14. Bugle Call Rag
    15. The Love Bug Will Bite
    16. Till Then
    17. Georgia On My Mind
    18. Big Boy Blue (Ella Fitzgerald)
    19. What's The Reason (I'm Not Pleasin' You?)
    20. Carry Me Back To Old Virginny (Louis Armstrong)
    21. Paper Doll
    22. Tiger Rag
    23. Down Among The Sheltering Palms (Al Jolson)
    24. Shine (Bing Crosby)
    25. You Always Hurt The One You Love
    26. Dirt Dishin' Daisy
    27. W.P.A. (Louis Armstrong)
    28. Goodbye Blues
    29. I Heard
    30. The Old Folks At Home (Louis Armstrong)
    31. Darling Nellie Gray (Louis Armstrong)
    32. Smack Dab In The Middle
    33. Nevertheless
    34. Rockin' Chair Swing
    35. Diga Diga Doo
    36. Chinatown, My Chinatown
    37. Get A Job
    38. Limehouse Blues
    39. Swing It, Sister
    40. Rhythm Saved The World
    41. How'm I Doin'?
    42. Swing Is The Thing
    43. A Doughnut And A Dream
    44. Some of These Days
    45. Sweet Georgia Brown
    46. I Can't Give You Anything But Love
    47. Gloria
    48. Coney Island Washboard
    49. Star Dust
    50. Julius Caeser

    By the way, I was born in 1957, so this is not a case of me liking what I grew up with. By the time I was in high school in the early to mid 70s I was much more interested in discovering 50s music than in what was current then.

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  • From geoff@21:1/5 to Bruce on Thu Dec 23 15:54:53 2021
    On 23/12/2021 2:28 pm, Bruce wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 22, 2021 at 8:24:08 PM UTC-5, geoff wrote:
    On 23/12/2021 1:40 pm, Bruce wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 22, 2021 at 6:34:07 PM UTC-5, geoff wrote:

    OK, so your musical appreciation is somewhat restricted to a particular >>>> era and range of styles. OK.

    No more restricted than most people's appreciation, and probably less restricted than most...... just a different era and range of styles than most other people. My appreciation for the most part runs from the early 1900s through the mid 1980s, and
    includes a wide range of styles including blues, jazz, gospel, soul, funk, hip hop, punk, new wave, Prog, R&B, rockabilly, Power Pop, traditional pop. country, rock and roll, bubble gum, country rock, folk, Cajun, Doo Wop, Jive, Swing, Big Band and
    reggae.

    Most here pretty much like a much shorter span than I do, which is approximately from the early 60s through the 1980s or 1990s, and also a smaller array of stiles which do not include too much black music. I get the feeling that most people in this
    group listen mainly to white guitar oriented rock music from a 30 year period (early 60s through early 90s).

    Here, for instance, are my favorite artists of the 1920s and the 1930s.

    FAVORITE ARTISTS 1920-1929
    1 - Jimmie Rodgers
    2 - Bessie Smith
    3 - Louis Armstrong
    4 - Al Jolson
    5 - Paul Whiteman
    6 - Gid Tanner and the Skillet Lickers
    7 - Blind Willie McTell
    8 - Ted Lewis
    9 - Sophie Tucker
    10 - Ethel Waters

    FAVORITE ARTISTS 1930-1939
    1 - Mills Brothers
    2 - Billie Holiday
    3 - Benny Goodman
    4 - Louis Armstrong
    5 - Ella Fitzgerald
    6 - Duke Ellington
    7 - Ink Spots
    8 - Bing Crosby
    9 - Glenn Miller
    10 - Boswell Sisters / Connee Boswell

    Do you listen to a lot of 1920s and 1930s music, Geoff?



    Occasionally, but not that much.

    FWIW Thelonious Monk stayed at my parents little hotel where I lived as
    a child. He started playing in the '30s.

    And one of my fave albums is We Get Requests, Ellington, but not of his
    20s/30s/40s/or even 50s years for that matter.

    Certainly a lot, if not most, of the albums of the eras you quote are
    less likely to be meaningfully sequenced.

    There were no albums before the 50s, and very few before like 1956. As far as I'm concerned, it's a singles world.

    I have very old '78s with more than on track per side ! Not long ones
    though .....

    geoff

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  • From geoff@21:1/5 to Bruce on Thu Dec 23 15:56:37 2021
    On 23/12/2021 2:32 pm, Bruce wrote:


    By the way, I was born in 1957,


    Me too.

    On the 9th of the 9th of '99 I turned *42*. How profound is that !

    geoff

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to geoff on Wed Dec 22 19:29:04 2021
    On Wednesday, December 22, 2021 at 9:56:46 PM UTC-5, geoff wrote:
    On 23/12/2021 2:32 pm, Bruce wrote:


    By the way, I was born in 1957,
    Me too.

    On the 9th of the 9th of '99 I turned *42*. How profound is that !

    You've got me by 3 weeks.

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  • From Poisoned Rose@21:1/5 to Norbert K on Thu Dec 23 00:42:25 2021
    On 2021-12-22 13:11:19 +0000, Norbert K said:

    This is off the top of my head, and I hope others will add to my list:

    1. The Beatles, "All You Need Is Love."

    2. Pink Floyd, "Money."

    3. Cat Stevens, "Rubylove."

    4. Rush, "Tom Sawyer," "Red Barchetta," "Limelight," and dozens of others.

    5. The Police, "Mother."

    6. "Red Hot Chili Peppers, "Ethiopia."

    7. Blondie, "Heart of Glass." Just a few bars of 7 tucked into the,
    uh, instrumental section. I'm surprised they even attempted it.

    You skipped the best one of all: PG's "Solsbury Hill."

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  • From Norbert K@21:1/5 to Poisoned Rose on Thu Dec 23 02:54:17 2021
    On Thursday, December 23, 2021 at 3:42:28 AM UTC-5, Poisoned Rose wrote:
    On 2021-12-22 13:11:19 +0000, Norbert K said:

    This is off the top of my head, and I hope others will add to my list:

    1. The Beatles, "All You Need Is Love."

    2. Pink Floyd, "Money."

    3. Cat Stevens, "Rubylove."

    4. Rush, "Tom Sawyer," "Red Barchetta," "Limelight," and dozens of others.

    5. The Police, "Mother."

    6. "Red Hot Chili Peppers, "Ethiopia."

    7. Blondie, "Heart of Glass." Just a few bars of 7 tucked into the,
    uh, instrumental section. I'm surprised they even attempted it.
    You skipped the best one of all: PG's "Solsbury Hill."

    Yes! I don't know how I managed to forget that one, since I really like Gabriel's first several solo albums.

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  • From Norbert K@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Thu Dec 23 03:09:51 2021
    On Wednesday, December 22, 2021 at 3:58:51 PM UTC-5, Blueshirt wrote:
    On 22/12/2021 13:11, Norbert K wrote:
    This is off the top of my head, and I hope others will add to my list:

    1. The Beatles, "All You Need Is Love."

    2. Pink Floyd, "Money."

    3. Cat Stevens, "Rubylove."

    4. Rush, "Tom Sawyer," "Red Barchetta," "Limelight," and dozens of others.

    5. The Police, "Mother."

    6. "Red Hot Chili Peppers, "Ethiopia."

    7. Blondie, "Heart of Glass." Just a few bars of 7 tucked into the, uh, instrumental section. I'm surprised they even attempted it.
    Alice in Chains - "Them Bones", from their "Dirt" album. Although I'm
    not sure if "Them Bones" would be considered as popular...

    Great! I wasn't familiar with this one.

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  • From Norbert K@21:1/5 to P-Dub on Thu Dec 23 02:55:49 2021
    On Wednesday, December 22, 2021 at 2:25:51 PM UTC-5, P-Dub wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 22, 2021 at 8:11:21 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
    This is off the top of my head, and I hope others will add to my list:

    1. The Beatles, "All You Need Is Love."

    2. Pink Floyd, "Money."

    3. Cat Stevens, "Rubylove."

    4. Rush, "Tom Sawyer," "Red Barchetta," "Limelight," and dozens of others.

    5. The Police, "Mother."

    6. "Red Hot Chili Peppers, "Ethiopia."

    7. Blondie, "Heart of Glass." Just a few bars of 7 tucked into the, uh, instrumental section. I'm surprised they even attempted it.
    Estimated Prophet - Grateful Dead

    I didn't know about that one, although a close friend worships the Terrapin Station album.

    Who was the source of the Dead's time experiments? Weir? Lesh?

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  • From Norbert K@21:1/5 to Norbert K on Thu Dec 23 03:09:04 2021
    On Wednesday, December 22, 2021 at 8:11:21 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
    This is off the top of my head, and I hope others will add to my list:

    1. The Beatles, "All You Need Is Love."

    2. Pink Floyd, "Money."

    3. Cat Stevens, "Rubylove."

    4. Rush, "Tom Sawyer," "Red Barchetta," "Limelight," and dozens of others.

    5. The Police, "Mother."

    6. "Red Hot Chili Peppers, "Ethiopia."

    7. Blondie, "Heart of Glass." Just a few bars of 7 tucked into the, uh, instrumental section. I'm surprised they even attempted it.

    Soundgaarden: "Spoon Man." This was on MTV often in the 90s.

    Sting: "Love Is Stronger Than Justice." The verses are 7/4. On the 7/4 "Mother" by the Police, Sting's bass part seems stiff and uncomfortable. He is much better on this one.

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  • From Norbert K@21:1/5 to Bruce on Thu Dec 23 06:54:53 2021
    On Thursday, December 23, 2021 at 9:23:04 AM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
    On Thursday, December 23, 2021 at 6:09:53 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 22, 2021 at 3:58:51 PM UTC-5, Blueshirt wrote:
    On 22/12/2021 13:11, Norbert K wrote:
    This is off the top of my head, and I hope others will add to my list:

    1. The Beatles, "All You Need Is Love."

    2. Pink Floyd, "Money."

    3. Cat Stevens, "Rubylove."

    4. Rush, "Tom Sawyer," "Red Barchetta," "Limelight," and dozens of others.

    5. The Police, "Mother."

    6. "Red Hot Chili Peppers, "Ethiopia."

    7. Blondie, "Heart of Glass." Just a few bars of 7 tucked into the, uh, instrumental section. I'm surprised they even attempted it.
    Alice in Chains - "Them Bones", from their "Dirt" album. Although I'm
    not sure if "Them Bones" would be considered as popular...
    Great! I wasn't familiar with this one.
    You guys and your shitty white guitar oriented rock music.

    :"Cult of Personality" by Living Color goes back and forth between 4.4 and 3/4.

    There's some mediocre black guitar-oriented music for you.

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to Norbert K on Thu Dec 23 06:23:02 2021
    On Thursday, December 23, 2021 at 6:09:53 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 22, 2021 at 3:58:51 PM UTC-5, Blueshirt wrote:
    On 22/12/2021 13:11, Norbert K wrote:
    This is off the top of my head, and I hope others will add to my list:

    1. The Beatles, "All You Need Is Love."

    2. Pink Floyd, "Money."

    3. Cat Stevens, "Rubylove."

    4. Rush, "Tom Sawyer," "Red Barchetta," "Limelight," and dozens of others.

    5. The Police, "Mother."

    6. "Red Hot Chili Peppers, "Ethiopia."

    7. Blondie, "Heart of Glass." Just a few bars of 7 tucked into the, uh, instrumental section. I'm surprised they even attempted it.
    Alice in Chains - "Them Bones", from their "Dirt" album. Although I'm
    not sure if "Them Bones" would be considered as popular...
    Great! I wasn't familiar with this one.

    You guys and your shitty white guitar oriented rock music.

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to Norbert K on Thu Dec 23 07:21:37 2021
    On Thursday, December 23, 2021 at 9:54:55 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
    On Thursday, December 23, 2021 at 9:23:04 AM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
    On Thursday, December 23, 2021 at 6:09:53 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 22, 2021 at 3:58:51 PM UTC-5, Blueshirt wrote:
    On 22/12/2021 13:11, Norbert K wrote:
    This is off the top of my head, and I hope others will add to my list:

    1. The Beatles, "All You Need Is Love."

    2. Pink Floyd, "Money."

    3. Cat Stevens, "Rubylove."

    4. Rush, "Tom Sawyer," "Red Barchetta," "Limelight," and dozens of others.

    5. The Police, "Mother."

    6. "Red Hot Chili Peppers, "Ethiopia."

    7. Blondie, "Heart of Glass." Just a few bars of 7 tucked into the, uh, instrumental section. I'm surprised they even attempted it.
    Alice in Chains - "Them Bones", from their "Dirt" album. Although I'm not sure if "Them Bones" would be considered as popular...
    Great! I wasn't familiar with this one.
    You guys and your shitty white guitar oriented rock music.
    :"Cult of Personality" by Living Color goes back and forth between 4.4 and 3/4.

    There's some mediocre black guitar-oriented music for you.

    Yes, they were trying to sound white, what do you expect?

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  • From geoff@21:1/5 to Bruce on Fri Dec 24 10:30:48 2021
    On 24/12/2021 3:23 am, Bruce wrote:
    On Thursday, December 23, 2021 at 6:09:53 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 22, 2021 at 3:58:51 PM UTC-5, Blueshirt wrote:
    On 22/12/2021 13:11, Norbert K wrote:
    This is off the top of my head, and I hope others will add to my list: >>>>
    1. The Beatles, "All You Need Is Love."

    2. Pink Floyd, "Money."

    3. Cat Stevens, "Rubylove."

    4. Rush, "Tom Sawyer," "Red Barchetta," "Limelight," and dozens of others. >>>>
    5. The Police, "Mother."

    6. "Red Hot Chili Peppers, "Ethiopia."

    7. Blondie, "Heart of Glass." Just a few bars of 7 tucked into the, uh, instrumental section. I'm surprised they even attempted it.
    Alice in Chains - "Them Bones", from their "Dirt" album. Although I'm
    not sure if "Them Bones" would be considered as popular...
    Great! I wasn't familiar with this one.

    You guys and your shitty white guitar oriented rock music.

    No place for racism in music .

    geoff

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  • From geoff@21:1/5 to Norbert K on Fri Dec 24 10:29:20 2021
    On 23/12/2021 11:54 pm, Norbert K wrote:
    On Thursday, December 23, 2021 at 3:42:28 AM UTC-5, Poisoned Rose wrote:
    On 2021-12-22 13:11:19 +0000, Norbert K said:

    This is off the top of my head, and I hope others will add to my list:

    1. The Beatles, "All You Need Is Love."

    2. Pink Floyd, "Money."

    3. Cat Stevens, "Rubylove."

    4. Rush, "Tom Sawyer," "Red Barchetta," "Limelight," and dozens of others. >>>
    5. The Police, "Mother."

    6. "Red Hot Chili Peppers, "Ethiopia."

    7. Blondie, "Heart of Glass." Just a few bars of 7 tucked into the,
    uh, instrumental section. I'm surprised they even attempted it.
    You skipped the best one of all: PG's "Solsbury Hill."

    Yes! I don't know how I managed to forget that one, since I really like Gabriel's first several solo albums.


    Shaking The Tree (song) and Don't give up, etc. Great stuff.

    geoff

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to geoff on Thu Dec 23 14:32:35 2021
    On Thursday, December 23, 2021 at 4:30:56 PM UTC-5, geoff wrote:
    On 24/12/2021 3:23 am, Bruce wrote:
    On Thursday, December 23, 2021 at 6:09:53 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 22, 2021 at 3:58:51 PM UTC-5, Blueshirt wrote:
    On 22/12/2021 13:11, Norbert K wrote:
    This is off the top of my head, and I hope others will add to my list: >>>>
    1. The Beatles, "All You Need Is Love."

    2. Pink Floyd, "Money."

    3. Cat Stevens, "Rubylove."

    4. Rush, "Tom Sawyer," "Red Barchetta," "Limelight," and dozens of others.

    5. The Police, "Mother."

    6. "Red Hot Chili Peppers, "Ethiopia."

    7. Blondie, "Heart of Glass." Just a few bars of 7 tucked into the, uh, instrumental section. I'm surprised they even attempted it.
    Alice in Chains - "Them Bones", from their "Dirt" album. Although I'm
    not sure if "Them Bones" would be considered as popular...
    Great! I wasn't familiar with this one.

    You guys and your shitty white guitar oriented rock music.
    No place for racism in music .

    Says someone who listens to 95% white artists.

    I listen to around 65% black music.

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  • From Norbert K@21:1/5 to Bruce on Thu Dec 23 15:10:04 2021
    On Thursday, December 23, 2021 at 5:32:37 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
    On Thursday, December 23, 2021 at 4:30:56 PM UTC-5, geoff wrote:
    On 24/12/2021 3:23 am, Bruce wrote:
    On Thursday, December 23, 2021 at 6:09:53 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 22, 2021 at 3:58:51 PM UTC-5, Blueshirt wrote: >>> On 22/12/2021 13:11, Norbert K wrote:
    This is off the top of my head, and I hope others will add to my list: >>>>
    1. The Beatles, "All You Need Is Love."

    2. Pink Floyd, "Money."

    3. Cat Stevens, "Rubylove."

    4. Rush, "Tom Sawyer," "Red Barchetta," "Limelight," and dozens of others.

    5. The Police, "Mother."

    6. "Red Hot Chili Peppers, "Ethiopia."

    7. Blondie, "Heart of Glass." Just a few bars of 7 tucked into the, uh, instrumental section. I'm surprised they even attempted it.
    Alice in Chains - "Them Bones", from their "Dirt" album. Although I'm >>> not sure if "Them Bones" would be considered as popular...
    Great! I wasn't familiar with this one.

    You guys and your shitty white guitar oriented rock music.
    No place for racism in music .
    Says someone who listens to 95% white artists.

    I listen to around 65% black music.

    Just what are you implying?

    Do you believe that black musicians are innately better than others? Do black people "better rhythm" or something?

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to Norbert K on Thu Dec 23 15:48:30 2021
    On Thursday, December 23, 2021 at 6:10:06 PM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
    On Thursday, December 23, 2021 at 5:32:37 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
    On Thursday, December 23, 2021 at 4:30:56 PM UTC-5, geoff wrote:
    On 24/12/2021 3:23 am, Bruce wrote:
    On Thursday, December 23, 2021 at 6:09:53 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 22, 2021 at 3:58:51 PM UTC-5, Blueshirt wrote: >>> On 22/12/2021 13:11, Norbert K wrote:
    This is off the top of my head, and I hope others will add to my list:

    1. The Beatles, "All You Need Is Love."

    2. Pink Floyd, "Money."

    3. Cat Stevens, "Rubylove."

    4. Rush, "Tom Sawyer," "Red Barchetta," "Limelight," and dozens of others.

    5. The Police, "Mother."

    6. "Red Hot Chili Peppers, "Ethiopia."

    7. Blondie, "Heart of Glass." Just a few bars of 7 tucked into the, uh, instrumental section. I'm surprised they even attempted it.
    Alice in Chains - "Them Bones", from their "Dirt" album. Although I'm
    not sure if "Them Bones" would be considered as popular...
    Great! I wasn't familiar with this one.

    You guys and your shitty white guitar oriented rock music.
    No place for racism in music .
    Says someone who listens to 95% white artists.

    I listen to around 65% black music.
    Just what are you implying?

    I am implying that most white people listen mainly, if not totally, to music made by other white people. If race didn't play a big part in the way that music sounds then it would not be so easy to tell what the race of the maker of music is when you hear
    it. Did anybody ever mistake Bobby Vinton for black, or James Brown for white?

    You tell me. Why is it that you are posting about Rush, Alice in Chains, the Police, Red Hot Chili Peppers and Blondie rather than the Gap Band, Kool & the Gang, Earth, Wind & Fire, The Isley Brothers and Usher?

    Do you think that white people are just better musicians, singers and songwriters than black people?

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  • From Norbert K@21:1/5 to Bruce on Thu Dec 23 16:13:40 2021
    On Thursday, December 23, 2021 at 6:48:31 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
    On Thursday, December 23, 2021 at 6:10:06 PM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
    On Thursday, December 23, 2021 at 5:32:37 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
    On Thursday, December 23, 2021 at 4:30:56 PM UTC-5, geoff wrote:
    On 24/12/2021 3:23 am, Bruce wrote:
    On Thursday, December 23, 2021 at 6:09:53 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 22, 2021 at 3:58:51 PM UTC-5, Blueshirt wrote:
    On 22/12/2021 13:11, Norbert K wrote:
    This is off the top of my head, and I hope others will add to my list:

    1. The Beatles, "All You Need Is Love."

    2. Pink Floyd, "Money."

    3. Cat Stevens, "Rubylove."

    4. Rush, "Tom Sawyer," "Red Barchetta," "Limelight," and dozens of others.

    5. The Police, "Mother."

    6. "Red Hot Chili Peppers, "Ethiopia."

    7. Blondie, "Heart of Glass." Just a few bars of 7 tucked into the, uh, instrumental section. I'm surprised they even attempted it.
    Alice in Chains - "Them Bones", from their "Dirt" album. Although I'm
    not sure if "Them Bones" would be considered as popular...
    Great! I wasn't familiar with this one.

    You guys and your shitty white guitar oriented rock music.
    No place for racism in music .
    Says someone who listens to 95% white artists.

    I listen to around 65% black music.
    Just what are you implying?
    I am implying that most white people listen mainly, if not totally, to music made by other white people. If race didn't play a big part in the way that music sounds then it would not be so easy to tell what the race of the maker of music is when you
    hear it. Did anybody ever mistake Bobby Vinton for black, or James Brown for white?

    You tell me. Why is it that you are posting about Rush, Alice in Chains, the Police, Red Hot Chili Peppers and Blondie rather than the Gap Band, Kool & the Gang, Earth, Wind & Fire, The Isley Brothers and Usher?

    Do you think that white people are just better musicians, singers and songwriters than black people?

    Now, don't attempt any false false equivalences on me.

    I don't run around boasting about the *percentage* of "white music" I listen to as though it somehow made me cooler than everyone else.

    I like the music I like for its musical attributes; it has *absolutely nothing whatsoever* to do with the ethnic backgrounds of the performers. Race does not factor into what I like. As it shouldn't.

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  • From Norbert K@21:1/5 to Bruce on Thu Dec 23 16:24:08 2021
    On Thursday, December 23, 2021 at 6:48:31 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
    On Thursday, December 23, 2021 at 6:10:06 PM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
    On Thursday, December 23, 2021 at 5:32:37 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
    On Thursday, December 23, 2021 at 4:30:56 PM UTC-5, geoff wrote:
    On 24/12/2021 3:23 am, Bruce wrote:
    On Thursday, December 23, 2021 at 6:09:53 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 22, 2021 at 3:58:51 PM UTC-5, Blueshirt wrote:
    On 22/12/2021 13:11, Norbert K wrote:
    This is off the top of my head, and I hope others will add to my list:

    1. The Beatles, "All You Need Is Love."

    2. Pink Floyd, "Money."

    3. Cat Stevens, "Rubylove."

    4. Rush, "Tom Sawyer," "Red Barchetta," "Limelight," and dozens of others.

    5. The Police, "Mother."

    6. "Red Hot Chili Peppers, "Ethiopia."

    7. Blondie, "Heart of Glass." Just a few bars of 7 tucked into the, uh, instrumental section. I'm surprised they even attempted it.
    Alice in Chains - "Them Bones", from their "Dirt" album. Although I'm
    not sure if "Them Bones" would be considered as popular...
    Great! I wasn't familiar with this one.

    You guys and your shitty white guitar oriented rock music.
    No place for racism in music .
    Says someone who listens to 95% white artists.

    I listen to around 65% black music.
    Just what are you implying?
    I am implying that most white people listen mainly, if not totally, to music made by other white people. If race didn't play a big part in the way that music sounds then it would not be so easy to tell what the race of the maker of music is when you
    hear it. Did anybody ever mistake Bobby Vinton for black, or James Brown for white?

    You tell me. Why is it that you are posting about Rush, Alice in Chains, the Police, Red Hot Chili Peppers and Blondie rather than the Gap Band, Kool & the Gang, Earth, Wind & Fire, The Isley Brothers and Usher?

    Do you think that white people are just better musicians, singers and songwriters than black people?

    *.
    BTW, this thread was never intended to be about race or about what I (or anyone) *like*. It was -- very clearly -- about songs that featued bars of 7.

    That anyone would try to turn a fun, musically-based topic like that into a debate about race is astounding.

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to Norbert K on Thu Dec 23 17:20:04 2021
    On Thursday, December 23, 2021 at 7:13:42 PM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:

    I don't run around boasting about the *percentage* of "white music" I listen to as though it somehow made me cooler than everyone else.

    Because listening to mainly white music makes you the opposite of coll. It makes you a follower like most people are. You like what almost every other white guy your age likes.

    I like the music I like for its musical attributes; it has *absolutely nothing whatsoever* to do with the ethnic backgrounds of the performers. Race does not factor into what I like. As it shouldn't.

    So why do you think that the "musical attributes" that you favor most are almost always put forth by white recording artists?

    Coincidence?

    Prove me wrong. Give us a list of your favorite black records of the 1980s, for instance.

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to Bruce on Thu Dec 23 17:30:27 2021
    On Thursday, December 23, 2021 at 8:20:06 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
    On Thursday, December 23, 2021 at 7:13:42 PM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:

    I don't run around boasting about the *percentage* of "white music" I listen to as though it somehow made me cooler than everyone else.
    Because listening to mainly white music makes you the opposite of coll. It makes you a follower like most people are. You like what almost every other white guy your age likes.
    I like the music I like for its musical attributes; it has *absolutely nothing whatsoever* to do with the ethnic backgrounds of the performers. Race does not factor into what I like. As it shouldn't.
    So why do you think that the "musical attributes" that you favor most are almost always put forth by white recording artists?

    Coincidence?

    Prove me wrong. Give us a list of your favorite black records of the 1980s, for instance.

    Here are some of mine.

    Silent Night - Temptations
    Master Blaster (Jammin') - Stevie Wonder
    Carolina Girls - Chairmen Of The Board
    Celebration - Kool & The Gang
    The Wanderer - Donna Summer
    Give It To Me, Baby - Rick James
    You're The One For Me - "D" Train
    Super Freak - Rick James
    Dance With Me - B.B. King
    Get Down On It - Kool and the Gang
    She's A Bad Mama Jama - Carl Carlton
    I'm A King Bee - Muddy Waters
    Should I Do It - Pointer Sisters
    Billie Jean - Michael Jackson
    1999 - Prince
    The Harder They Come - Rockers Revenge feat. Donnie Calvin
    The Message - Grandmaster Flash & Furious Five
    You Dropped A Bomb On Me - Gap Band
    Babe, We're Gonna Love Tonight - Lime
    Jump To It - Aretha Franklin
    Let's Go Dancin' (Ohh La La La) - Kool and the Gang
    Electric Avenue - Eddy Grant
    Atomic Dog - George Clinton
    (The Boys Are) Back In Town - Bus Boys
    If It Ain't One Thing It's Another - Richard "Dimples" Fields
    Pass The Dutchie - Musical Youth
    The Other Woman - Ray Parker Jr.
    Down Home Blues - Denise LaSalle
    White Lines (Don't Do It) - Grandmaster Melle Mel
    Save The Overtime - Gladys Knight & Pips
    When Doves Cry - Prince
    Call The Plumber - Joe Turner
    The Roof Is On Fire - Rock Master Scott
    Beer Bottle Boogie - Koko Taylor
    Dip My Dipper - Cicero Blake
    Freeway of Love - Aretha Franklin
    Night Shift - Commodores
    Members Only - Bobby Bland
    Whole Lotta Shaking Going On - Valerie Wellington
    It Takes Two - Rob Base & DJ E-Z Rock

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  • From Norbert K@21:1/5 to Bruce on Fri Dec 24 05:22:23 2021
    On Thursday, December 23, 2021 at 8:20:06 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
    On Thursday, December 23, 2021 at 7:13:42 PM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:

    I don't run around boasting about the *percentage* of "white music" I listen to as though it somehow made me cooler than everyone else.
    Because listening to mainly white music makes you the opposite of coll. It makes you a follower like most people are. You like what almost every other white guy your age likes.
    I like the music I like for its musical attributes; it has *absolutely nothing whatsoever* to do with the ethnic backgrounds of the performers. Race does not factor into what I like. As it shouldn't.
    So why do you think that the "musical attributes" that you favor most are almost always put forth by white recording artists?

    Coincidence?

    Prove me wrong. Give us a list of your favorite black records of the 1980s, for instance.

    The theme of this thread is "Songs That Use 7/4 Time." It's pertinent to the group because several Beatles songs utilize time changes and "All You Need Is Love" in particular has some of the time signature specified.

    Your wish to derail the thread into a contest to see who listens to the most black music is bizarre; it strikes me as something between extreme silliness and insanity. I propose that you channel your need for such a contest into a new thread -- assuming
    you can make it pertinent to the Beatles.

    Back on topic: Midnight Oil's "Read About It" has a ton of time changes and features 7/4 extensively.

    Is it popular? I'm pretty sure I've seen videos for it on television.

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to Norbert K on Fri Dec 24 07:21:46 2021
    On Friday, December 24, 2021 at 8:22:25 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:

    Back on topic: Midnight Oil's "Read About It" has a ton of time changes and features 7/4 extensively.

    Another shit white band from the 80s.

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  • From Norbert K@21:1/5 to Norbert K on Fri Dec 24 08:59:35 2021
    On Wednesday, December 22, 2021 at 8:11:21 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
    This is off the top of my head, and I hope others will add to my list:

    1. The Beatles, "All You Need Is Love."

    2. Pink Floyd, "Money."

    3. Cat Stevens, "Rubylove."

    4. Rush, "Tom Sawyer," "Red Barchetta," "Limelight," and dozens of others.

    5. The Police, "Mother."

    6. "Red Hot Chili Peppers, "Ethiopia."

    7. Blondie, "Heart of Glass." Just a few bars of 7 tucked into the, uh, instrumental section. I'm surprised they even attempted it.

    I came up with three more, albeit two of which are obscure:

    1. "Don't Eat the Yellow Snow" by Frank Zappa.

    2. "The Blimp," credited to Captain Beefheart (I suspect the riff was created by Beefheart's then-producer Frank Zappa).

    3. "The Ideal Woman" by Adrian Belew. Belew had been a sideman for Zappa, the Talking Heads, and Laurie Anderson. When he released the album Twang Bar King, he had been the frontman for King Crimson for several years.

    Crimson no doubt has dozens of songs that utilize 7.

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to Norbert K on Fri Dec 24 09:29:33 2021
    On Friday, December 24, 2021 at 11:59:36 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 22, 2021 at 8:11:21 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
    This is off the top of my head, and I hope others will add to my list:

    1. The Beatles, "All You Need Is Love."

    2. Pink Floyd, "Money."

    3. Cat Stevens, "Rubylove."

    4. Rush, "Tom Sawyer," "Red Barchetta," "Limelight," and dozens of others.

    5. The Police, "Mother."

    6. "Red Hot Chili Peppers, "Ethiopia."

    7. Blondie, "Heart of Glass." Just a few bars of 7 tucked into the, uh, instrumental section. I'm surprised they even attempted it.
    I came up with three more, albeit two of which are obscure:

    1. "Don't Eat the Yellow Snow" by Frank Zappa.

    2. "The Blimp," credited to Captain Beefheart (I suspect the riff was created by Beefheart's then-producer Frank Zappa).

    3. "The Ideal Woman" by Adrian Belew. Belew had been a sideman for Zappa, the Talking Heads, and Laurie Anderson. When he released the album Twang Bar King, he had been the frontman for King Crimson for several years.

    So you know obscure white guitar oriented rock records that are 7/4, but can't come up with even one black record that is 7/4.

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  • From Norbert K@21:1/5 to Bruce on Fri Dec 24 09:41:36 2021
    On Friday, December 24, 2021 at 12:29:35 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
    On Friday, December 24, 2021 at 11:59:36 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 22, 2021 at 8:11:21 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
    This is off the top of my head, and I hope others will add to my list:

    1. The Beatles, "All You Need Is Love."

    2. Pink Floyd, "Money."

    3. Cat Stevens, "Rubylove."

    4. Rush, "Tom Sawyer," "Red Barchetta," "Limelight," and dozens of others.

    5. The Police, "Mother."

    6. "Red Hot Chili Peppers, "Ethiopia."

    7. Blondie, "Heart of Glass." Just a few bars of 7 tucked into the, uh, instrumental section. I'm surprised they even attempted it.
    I came up with three more, albeit two of which are obscure:

    1. "Don't Eat the Yellow Snow" by Frank Zappa.

    2. "The Blimp," credited to Captain Beefheart (I suspect the riff was created by Beefheart's then-producer Frank Zappa).

    3. "The Ideal Woman" by Adrian Belew. Belew had been a sideman for Zappa, the Talking Heads, and Laurie Anderson. When he released the album Twang Bar King, he had been the frontman for King Crimson for several years.
    So you know obscure white guitar oriented rock records that are 7/4, but can't come up with even one black record that is 7/4.

    I named one yesterday.

    Instead of bitching at me because I don't share your racial fetish, why not participate constructively and divulge these black records in 7/4?

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  • From Norbert K@21:1/5 to Norbert K on Fri Dec 24 09:57:43 2021
    On Wednesday, December 22, 2021 at 8:11:21 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
    This is off the top of my head, and I hope others will add to my list:

    1. The Beatles, "All You Need Is Love."

    2. Pink Floyd, "Money."

    3. Cat Stevens, "Rubylove."

    4. Rush, "Tom Sawyer," "Red Barchetta," "Limelight," and dozens of others.

    5. The Police, "Mother."

    6. "Red Hot Chili Peppers, "Ethiopia."

    7. Blondie, "Heart of Glass." Just a few bars of 7 tucked into the, uh, instrumental section. I'm surprised they even attempted it.

    Steely Dan's "Peg" has a single bar of 7/8 (it's occupied by a great drum fill).

    And the intro to SD's great song "Green Earrings," while mostly 4/4, ends surprisingly with a bar of 3/4; obviously one can conceive this as a single bar of 7/4.

    Both songs feature a great bass player named Chuck Rainey. (I'll bet Bruce approves of him, albeit for a reason other than his fine & funky bass playing.)

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to Norbert K on Fri Dec 24 10:10:03 2021
    On Friday, December 24, 2021 at 12:41:38 PM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:

    I named one yesterday.

    We're not counting white sounding music that happens to have been made by black guys. THAT would be racist if we just go by the color of the skin of the artist.

    When I say "Black Music" I am talking about music in a black style that is popular in the black community, not music by people who happen to be black, like Charley Pride, Clint Homes, and Living Colour. The act can be genetically white, like Teena Marie,
    Johnny Otis or Eminem.

    Instead of bitching at me because I don't share your racial fetish, why not participate constructively and divulge these black records in 7/4?

    I listed a bunch of my favorite black records of the 1980s in this thread. I have no interest in time signatures and wouldn't know 7/4 from 13/4.

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to Norbert K on Fri Dec 24 10:18:03 2021
    On Friday, December 24, 2021 at 12:57:45 PM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:

    Both songs feature a great bass player named Chuck Rainey. (I'll bet Bruce approves of him, albeit for a reason other than his fine & funky bass playing.)

    Read my prior post, the color of his skin is not what I am talking about. It's the style of the music and whether or not it's popular in the black community. If you like funky bass playing, you should be listening to Graham Central Station and Funkadelic
    instead of Steely Fucking Dan and King Fucking Crimson.

    The Billboard Race/R&B/Soul/Black chart has never been about the sound of the music. It has ALWAYS Been about which records are popular in the black community. THAT'S what I am railing about. Not the color of the skin of the musicians, but the fact that
    most white people vastly prefer white sounding music to what is popular in the back community.

    Why is that?

    If race has nothing to do with music as you claim, why is there such a vast difference in the sound of the music that most whites listen to as opposed to the sound of the music that most blacks listen to?

    Why did the Beatles never place a single on the black charts?

    The Bee Gees had several big hits in the black community, and the Stones even had a few. But nothing ever from the biggest overall act ever.

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  • From Norbert K@21:1/5 to Bruce on Fri Dec 24 12:09:56 2021
    On Friday, December 24, 2021 at 1:18:05 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
    On Friday, December 24, 2021 at 12:57:45 PM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:

    Both songs feature a great bass player named Chuck Rainey. (I'll bet Bruce approves of him, albeit for a reason other than his fine & funky bass playing.)
    Read my prior post, the color of his skin is not what I am talking about. It's the style of the music and whether or not it's popular in the black community. If you like funky bass playing, you should be listening to Graham Central Station and
    Funkadelic instead of Steely Fucking Dan and King Fucking Crimson.

    The Billboard Race/R&B/Soul/Black chart has never been about the sound of the music. It has ALWAYS Been about which records are popular in the black community. THAT'S what I am railing about. Not the color of the skin of the musicians, but the fact
    that most white people vastly prefer white sounding music to what is popular in the back community.

    Why is that?

    If race has nothing to do with music as you claim,

    I did not say that. What I said is that the race of a performer has nothing to do with my liking or disliking his work. E.g., the first time I heard Cat Stevens' "Trouble" I assumed it was by an older black guy. Turned out it was by a Greek-Brit --
    and this had no effect at all on my attitude towards the song.

    why is there such a vast difference in the sound of the music that most whites listen to as opposed to the sound of the music that most blacks listen to?

    Why did the Beatles never place a single on the black charts?

    The Bee Gees had several big hits in the black community, and the Stones even had a few. But nothing ever from the biggest overall act ever.

    The Bee Gees and the Stones. Talk about fetid white bands.

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to Norbert K on Fri Dec 24 12:41:02 2021
    On Friday, December 24, 2021 at 3:09:58 PM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
    On Friday, December 24, 2021 at 1:18:05 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
    On Friday, December 24, 2021 at 12:57:45 PM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:

    Both songs feature a great bass player named Chuck Rainey. (I'll bet Bruce approves of him, albeit for a reason other than his fine & funky bass playing.)
    Read my prior post, the color of his skin is not what I am talking about. It's the style of the music and whether or not it's popular in the black community. If you like funky bass playing, you should be listening to Graham Central Station and
    Funkadelic instead of Steely Fucking Dan and King Fucking Crimson.

    The Billboard Race/R&B/Soul/Black chart has never been about the sound of the music. It has ALWAYS Been about which records are popular in the black community. THAT'S what I am railing about. Not the color of the skin of the musicians, but the fact
    that most white people vastly prefer white sounding music to what is popular in the back community.

    Why is that?

    If race has nothing to do with music as you claim,
    I did not say that. What I said is that the race of a performer has nothing to do with my liking or disliking his work. E.g., the first time I heard Cat Stevens' "Trouble" I assumed it was by an older black guy. Turned out it was by a Greek-Brit -- and
    this had no effect at all on my attitude towards the song.
    why is there such a vast difference in the sound of the music that most whites listen to as opposed to the sound of the music that most blacks listen to?

    Why did the Beatles never place a single on the black charts?

    The Bee Gees had several big hits in the black community, and the Stones even had a few. But nothing ever from the biggest overall act ever.
    The Bee Gees and the Stones. Talk about fetid white bands.

    So, you like King Crimson and the Red Hot Chili Peppers, but not the Stones? Must be their strong black music influence that makes you not like them. They certainly weren't doing cornball Broadway show tunes like "Til There Was You." Insisted they were
    doing hard core
    black songs like "I'm A King Bee" and "Walking The Dog."

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  • From Norbert K@21:1/5 to Bruce on Fri Dec 24 13:05:23 2021
    On Friday, December 24, 2021 at 3:41:04 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
    On Friday, December 24, 2021 at 3:09:58 PM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
    On Friday, December 24, 2021 at 1:18:05 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
    On Friday, December 24, 2021 at 12:57:45 PM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:

    Both songs feature a great bass player named Chuck Rainey. (I'll bet Bruce approves of him, albeit for a reason other than his fine & funky bass playing.)
    Read my prior post, the color of his skin is not what I am talking about. It's the style of the music and whether or not it's popular in the black community. If you like funky bass playing, you should be listening to Graham Central Station and
    Funkadelic instead of Steely Fucking Dan and King Fucking Crimson.

    The Billboard Race/R&B/Soul/Black chart has never been about the sound of the music. It has ALWAYS Been about which records are popular in the black community. THAT'S what I am railing about. Not the color of the skin of the musicians, but the fact
    that most white people vastly prefer white sounding music to what is popular in the back community.

    Why is that?

    If race has nothing to do with music as you claim,
    I did not say that. What I said is that the race of a performer has nothing to do with my liking or disliking his work. E.g., the first time I heard Cat Stevens' "Trouble" I assumed it was by an older black guy. Turned out it was by a Greek-Brit --
    and this had no effect at all on my attitude towards the song.
    why is there such a vast difference in the sound of the music that most whites listen to as opposed to the sound of the music that most blacks listen to?

    Why did the Beatles never place a single on the black charts?

    The Bee Gees had several big hits in the black community, and the Stones even had a few. But nothing ever from the biggest overall act ever.
    The Bee Gees and the Stones. Talk about fetid white bands.
    So, you like King Crimson and the Red Hot Chili Peppers, but not the Stones? Must be their strong black music influence that makes you not like them. They certainly weren't doing cornball Broadway show tunes like "Til There Was You." Insisted they were
    doing hard core
    black songs like "I'm A King Bee" and "Walking The Dog."

    I've already told you that my list was of songs that featured bars of 7; it wasn't about bands I like per se.

    Coincidentally, I like some of the RHCP albums very much. Their great bassist was very heavily influenced by the likes of Bootsy Collins and Bernard Edwards.

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to Norbert K on Fri Dec 24 13:35:49 2021
    On Friday, December 24, 2021 at 4:05:25 PM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
    On Friday, December 24, 2021 at 3:41:04 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
    On Friday, December 24, 2021 at 3:09:58 PM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
    On Friday, December 24, 2021 at 1:18:05 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
    On Friday, December 24, 2021 at 12:57:45 PM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:

    Both songs feature a great bass player named Chuck Rainey. (I'll bet Bruce approves of him, albeit for a reason other than his fine & funky bass playing.)
    Read my prior post, the color of his skin is not what I am talking about. It's the style of the music and whether or not it's popular in the black community. If you like funky bass playing, you should be listening to Graham Central Station and
    Funkadelic instead of Steely Fucking Dan and King Fucking Crimson.

    The Billboard Race/R&B/Soul/Black chart has never been about the sound of the music. It has ALWAYS Been about which records are popular in the black community. THAT'S what I am railing about. Not the color of the skin of the musicians, but the
    fact that most white people vastly prefer white sounding music to what is popular in the back community.

    Why is that?

    If race has nothing to do with music as you claim,
    I did not say that. What I said is that the race of a performer has nothing to do with my liking or disliking his work. E.g., the first time I heard Cat Stevens' "Trouble" I assumed it was by an older black guy. Turned out it was by a Greek-Brit --
    and this had no effect at all on my attitude towards the song.
    why is there such a vast difference in the sound of the music that most whites listen to as opposed to the sound of the music that most blacks listen to?

    Why did the Beatles never place a single on the black charts?

    The Bee Gees had several big hits in the black community, and the Stones even had a few. But nothing ever from the biggest overall act ever.
    The Bee Gees and the Stones. Talk about fetid white bands.
    So, you like King Crimson and the Red Hot Chili Peppers, but not the Stones? Must be their strong black music influence that makes you not like them. They certainly weren't doing cornball Broadway show tunes like "Til There Was You." Insisted they
    were doing hard core
    black songs like "I'm A King Bee" and "Walking The Dog."
    I've already told you that my list was of songs that featured bars of 7; it wasn't about bands I like per se.

    Coincidentally, I like some of the RHCP albums very much. Their great bassist was very heavily influenced by the likes of Bootsy Collins and Bernard Edwards.

    What are your favorite recordings by Bootsy and Bernard themselves, rather than white guys who were influenced by them?

    Or do you prefer to listen to white guys do their interpretations of black music? You know, cultural appropriation?

    Who's your favorite blues artist? Some white guitarist who claims to be a bluesman?

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  • From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to Bruce on Fri Dec 24 22:46:49 2021
    On 24/12/2021 01:20, Bruce wrote:
    Coincidence?

    Prove me wrong. Give us a list of your favorite black records of the 1980s, for instance.

    I suppose I could be *that* person and list a ton of my old LP's that
    were black records... but I won't! ;-)

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  • From geoff@21:1/5 to Norbert K on Sat Dec 25 12:10:35 2021
    On 25/12/2021 2:22 am, Norbert K wrote:
    On Thursday, December 23, 2021 at 8:20:06 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
    On Thursday, December 23, 2021 at 7:13:42 PM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:

    I don't run around boasting about the *percentage* of "white music" I listen to as though it somehow made me cooler than everyone else.
    Because listening to mainly white music makes you the opposite of coll. It makes you a follower like most people are. You like what almost every other white guy your age likes.
    I like the music I like for its musical attributes; it has *absolutely nothing whatsoever* to do with the ethnic backgrounds of the performers. Race does not factor into what I like. As it shouldn't.
    So why do you think that the "musical attributes" that you favor most are almost always put forth by white recording artists?

    Coincidence?

    Prove me wrong. Give us a list of your favorite black records of the 1980s, for instance.

    The theme of this thread is "Songs That Use 7/4 Time." It's pertinent to the group because several Beatles songs utilize time changes and "All You Need Is Love" in particular has some of the time signature specified.

    Your wish to derail the thread into a contest to see who listens to the most black music is bizarre; it strikes me as something between extreme silliness and insanity. I propose that you channel your need for such a contest into a new thread --
    assuming you can make it pertinent to the Beatles.

    Back on topic: Midnight Oil's "Read About It" has a ton of time changes and features 7/4 extensively.

    Is it popular? I'm pretty sure I've seen videos for it on television.





    Jethros Tull's Eurology alternates between 9/8 and 8/8 ....

    geoff

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  • From geoff@21:1/5 to Bruce on Sat Dec 25 12:11:48 2021
    On 25/12/2021 4:21 am, Bruce wrote:
    On Friday, December 24, 2021 at 8:22:25 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:

    Back on topic: Midnight Oil's "Read About It" has a ton of time changes and features 7/4 extensively.

    Another shit white band from the 80s.


    Presumably the only reason you are only here is because Billy Preston
    hung out with 4 white guys for 3 weeks ?

    geoff

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  • From geoff@21:1/5 to Bruce on Sat Dec 25 12:13:31 2021
    On 25/12/2021 6:29 am, Bruce wrote:
    On Friday, December 24, 2021 at 11:59:36 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 22, 2021 at 8:11:21 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
    This is off the top of my head, and I hope others will add to my list:

    1. The Beatles, "All You Need Is Love."

    2. Pink Floyd, "Money."

    3. Cat Stevens, "Rubylove."

    4. Rush, "Tom Sawyer," "Red Barchetta," "Limelight," and dozens of others. >>>
    5. The Police, "Mother."

    6. "Red Hot Chili Peppers, "Ethiopia."

    7. Blondie, "Heart of Glass." Just a few bars of 7 tucked into the, uh, instrumental section. I'm surprised they even attempted it.
    I came up with three more, albeit two of which are obscure:

    1. "Don't Eat the Yellow Snow" by Frank Zappa.

    2. "The Blimp," credited to Captain Beefheart (I suspect the riff was created by Beefheart's then-producer Frank Zappa).

    3. "The Ideal Woman" by Adrian Belew. Belew had been a sideman for Zappa, the Talking Heads, and Laurie Anderson. When he released the album Twang Bar King, he had been the frontman for King Crimson for several years.

    So you know obscure white guitar oriented rock records that are 7/4, but can't come up with even one black record that is 7/4.

    Back in the day nearly all my albums were black. A few 'picture discs'
    and alternative colours in there. But mostly black. And since then they
    have been largely silver.

    geoff

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  • From geoff@21:1/5 to Bruce on Sat Dec 25 12:14:44 2021
    On 25/12/2021 7:10 am, Bruce wrote:
    On Friday, December 24, 2021 at 12:41:38 PM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:

    I named one yesterday.

    We're not counting white sounding music that happens to have been made by black guys. THAT would be racist if we just go by the color of the skin of the artist.

    When I say "Black Music" I am talking about music in a black style that is popular in the black community, not music by people who happen to be black, like Charley Pride, Clint Homes, and Living Colour. The act can be genetically white, like Teena
    Marie, Johnny Otis or Eminem.

    Instead of bitching at me because I don't share your racial fetish, why not participate constructively and divulge these black records in 7/4?

    I listed a bunch of my favorite black records of the 1980s in this thread. I have no interest in time signatures and wouldn't know 7/4 from 13/4.


    Not only racist, but some sort of snobbery involved as well. Sad for you.

    geoff

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  • From geoff@21:1/5 to Bruce on Sat Dec 25 12:25:46 2021
    On 25/12/2021 7:18 am, Bruce wrote:
    On Friday, December 24, 2021 at 12:57:45 PM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:

    Both songs feature a great bass player named Chuck Rainey. (I'll bet Bruce approves of him, albeit for a reason other than his fine & funky bass playing.)

    Read my prior post, the color of his skin is not what I am talking about. It's the style of the music and whether or not it's popular in the black community. If you like funky bass playing, you should be listening to Graham Central Station and
    Funkadelic instead of Steely Fucking Dan and King Fucking Crimson.

    And if our tastes are not so narrow why not include those in our wider
    range of appreciation ? Bootsie is great, and so is Chuck Rainey - but
    Chuck is just a musical whore by your 'standards' I guess.


    The Billboard Race/R&B/Soul/Black chart has never been about the sound of the music. It has ALWAYS Been about which records are popular in the black community. THAT'S what I am railing about. Not the color of the skin of the musicians, but the fact
    that most white people vastly prefer white sounding music to what is popular in the back community.

    Why is that?

    I like Rhapsody In Blue ...


    If race has nothing to do with music as you claim, why is there such a vast difference in the sound of the music that most whites listen to as opposed to the sound of the music that most blacks listen to?

    Maybe more black people like to dance/jive/etc as their primary
    response. I dunno - you are the one claiming this. My preference is to
    listen to 'progressive' and album-orientated rock. Want to crucify me or something ?


    Why did the Beatles never place a single on the black charts?
    In my country we don't have racially-segregated charts.


    The Bee Gees had several big hits in the black community, and the Stones even had a few. But nothing ever from the biggest overall act ever.


    And ? Why are you here ?

    geoff

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to geoff on Fri Dec 24 15:31:33 2021
    On Friday, December 24, 2021 at 6:11:56 PM UTC-5, geoff wrote:
    On 25/12/2021 4:21 am, Bruce wrote:
    On Friday, December 24, 2021 at 8:22:25 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:

    Back on topic: Midnight Oil's "Read About It" has a ton of time changes and features 7/4 extensively.

    Another shit white band from the 80s.
    Presumably the only reason you are only here is because Billy Preston
    hung out with 4 white guys for 3 weeks ?

    No, because I like lots of white stuff too, but most of my favorite acts are black. You saw my 100 favorite artist list that I posted. It's like 2/3 black.

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to geoff on Fri Dec 24 15:40:34 2021
    On Friday, December 24, 2021 at 6:25:57 PM UTC-5, geoff wrote:

    Maybe more black people like to dance/jive/etc as their primary
    response. I dunno - you are the one claiming this. My preference is to listen to 'progressive' and album-orientated rock. Want to crucify me or something ?

    Haven't you ever wondered why you like what you like?

    Why are 99% of the artists who do progressive and album oriented rock white, and why none of even the greatest black artists (Stevie Wonder, Prince, James Brown, Ray Charles, etc..) of that era are not included as part of so called "album oriented rock?"

    Stevie Wonder had 3 or 4 of the most popular and acclaimed albums right in the middle of that "album oriented rock" era, yet the radio stations that play that stuff do not even play his records. What makes ELP, Tull, King Crimson, Yes, Elton John, and
    even James Taylor okay for that radio format, but not "Superstition" or "Living For The City" by Stevie Wonder?

    Same thing that made MTV all white for the first few years of their existence. They thought that white people would be "scared to death by Prince." Check this out below.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZGiVzIr8Qg

    David Bowie Criticizes MTV for Not Playing Videos by Black Artists | MTV News

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  • From geoff@21:1/5 to Bruce on Sat Dec 25 20:40:10 2021
    On 25/12/2021 12:40 pm, Bruce wrote:
    On Friday, December 24, 2021 at 6:25:57 PM UTC-5, geoff wrote:

    Maybe more black people like to dance/jive/etc as their primary
    response. I dunno - you are the one claiming this. My preference is to
    listen to 'progressive' and album-orientated rock. Want to crucify me or
    something ?

    Haven't you ever wondered why you like what you like?
    No, why should I ? I'm not the one with racio-muso-neurotic-OCD. I don't
    limit my musical appreciate to any one particular genre.


    Why are 99% of the artists who do progressive and album oriented rock white, and why none of even the greatest black artists (Stevie Wonder, Prince, James Brown, Ray Charles, etc..) of that era are not included as part of so called "album oriented rock?
    "

    I don't know, or care. I would disagree about your classification of SW
    and Prince though.


    Stevie Wonder had 3 or 4 of the most popular and acclaimed albums right in the middle of that "album oriented rock" era, yet the radio stations that play that stuff do not even play his records. What makes ELP, Tull, King Crimson, Yes, Elton John, and
    even James Taylor okay for that radio format, but not "Superstition" or "Living For The City" by Stevie Wonder?

    Stations that I listen to do indeed play *all* of what you mention.


    Same thing that made MTV all white for the first few years of their existence. They thought that white people would be "scared to death by Prince." Check this out below.

    Who gives a fuck about MTV ?!!!


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZGiVzIr8Qg

    David Bowie Criticizes MTV for Not Playing Videos by Black Artists | MTV News


    Ah, the Thin White Duke !

    geoff

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  • From geoff@21:1/5 to Bruce on Sat Dec 25 20:34:14 2021
    On 25/12/2021 12:31 pm, Bruce wrote:
    On Friday, December 24, 2021 at 6:11:56 PM UTC-5, geoff wrote:
    On 25/12/2021 4:21 am, Bruce wrote:
    On Friday, December 24, 2021 at 8:22:25 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:

    Back on topic: Midnight Oil's "Read About It" has a ton of time changes and features 7/4 extensively.

    Another shit white band from the 80s.
    Presumably the only reason you are only here is because Billy Preston
    hung out with 4 white guys for 3 weeks ?

    No, because I like lots of white stuff too, but most of my favorite acts are black. You saw my 100 favorite artist list that I posted. It's like 2/3 black.


    I don't necessarily know or care about the racial origins of the music
    that I listen to. I listen to a wide range.

    If I like or dislike a certain style of music, or somewhere in between,
    why should that be a problem ?

    It is a problem to me that you summarily dismiss music styles that you
    classify as 'non-black', because that is simply ignorant and nasty.

    geoff

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  • From Norbert K@21:1/5 to geoff on Sat Dec 25 02:55:07 2021
    On Friday, December 24, 2021 at 6:13:39 PM UTC-5, geoff wrote:
    On 25/12/2021 6:29 am, Bruce wrote:
    On Friday, December 24, 2021 at 11:59:36 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 22, 2021 at 8:11:21 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
    This is off the top of my head, and I hope others will add to my list: >>>
    1. The Beatles, "All You Need Is Love."

    2. Pink Floyd, "Money."

    3. Cat Stevens, "Rubylove."

    4. Rush, "Tom Sawyer," "Red Barchetta," "Limelight," and dozens of others.

    5. The Police, "Mother."

    6. "Red Hot Chili Peppers, "Ethiopia."

    7. Blondie, "Heart of Glass." Just a few bars of 7 tucked into the, uh, instrumental section. I'm surprised they even attempted it.
    I came up with three more, albeit two of which are obscure:

    1. "Don't Eat the Yellow Snow" by Frank Zappa.

    2. "The Blimp," credited to Captain Beefheart (I suspect the riff was created by Beefheart's then-producer Frank Zappa).

    3. "The Ideal Woman" by Adrian Belew. Belew had been a sideman for Zappa, the Talking Heads, and Laurie Anderson. When he released the album Twang Bar King, he had been the frontman for King Crimson for several years.

    So you know obscure white guitar oriented rock records that are 7/4, but can't come up with even one black record that is 7/4.
    Back in the day nearly all my albums were black. A few 'picture discs'
    and alternative colours in there. But mostly black. And since then they
    have been largely silver.

    geoff

    Clever!

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  • From geoff@21:1/5 to Norbert K on Sun Dec 26 00:07:00 2021
    On 26/12/2021 12:00 am, Norbert K wrote:
    On Friday, December 24, 2021 at 4:35:50 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
    On Friday, December 24, 2021 at 4:05:25 PM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
    On Friday, December 24, 2021 at 3:41:04 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
    On Friday, December 24, 2021 at 3:09:58 PM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
    On Friday, December 24, 2021 at 1:18:05 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
    On Friday, December 24, 2021 at 12:57:45 PM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote: >>>>>>>
    Both songs feature a great bass player named Chuck Rainey. (I'll bet Bruce approves of him, albeit for a reason other than his fine & funky bass playing.)
    Read my prior post, the color of his skin is not what I am talking about. It's the style of the music and whether or not it's popular in the black community. If you like funky bass playing, you should be listening to Graham Central Station and
    Funkadelic instead of Steely Fucking Dan and King Fucking Crimson.

    The Billboard Race/R&B/Soul/Black chart has never been about the sound of the music. It has ALWAYS Been about which records are popular in the black community. THAT'S what I am railing about. Not the color of the skin of the musicians, but the
    fact that most white people vastly prefer white sounding music to what is popular in the back community.

    Why is that?

    If race has nothing to do with music as you claim,
    I did not say that. What I said is that the race of a performer has nothing to do with my liking or disliking his work. E.g., the first time I heard Cat Stevens' "Trouble" I assumed it was by an older black guy. Turned out it was by a Greek-Brit --
    and this had no effect at all on my attitude towards the song.
    why is there such a vast difference in the sound of the music that most whites listen to as opposed to the sound of the music that most blacks listen to?

    Why did the Beatles never place a single on the black charts?

    The Bee Gees had several big hits in the black community, and the Stones even had a few. But nothing ever from the biggest overall act ever.
    The Bee Gees and the Stones. Talk about fetid white bands.
    So, you like King Crimson and the Red Hot Chili Peppers, but not the Stones? Must be their strong black music influence that makes you not like them. They certainly weren't doing cornball Broadway show tunes like "Til There Was You." Insisted they
    were doing hard core
    black songs like "I'm A King Bee" and "Walking The Dog."
    I've already told you that my list was of songs that featured bars of 7; it wasn't about bands I like per se.

    Coincidentally, I like some of the RHCP albums very much. Their great bassist was very heavily influenced by the likes of Bootsy Collins and Bernard Edwards.
    What are your favorite recordings by Bootsy and Bernard themselves, rather than white guys who were influenced by them?

    Or do you prefer to listen to white guys do their interpretations of black music? You know, cultural appropriation?

    Who's your favorite blues artist? Some white guitarist who claims to be a bluesman?

    The theme of this thread is "Songs That Use Bars of 7."

    Your flaunting of your black fetish isn't pertinent to this thread or this group.

    Take your black fixation into a thread of your own. If you can make it pertinent to this group (e.g., "Black Artists Who Influenced the Beatles"), I might participate.

    Back on topic: "Frame By Frame" by King Crimson features lots of 7/8.


    And to make it even more Beatle-relevant, Tony Levin played the bass on
    Double Fantasy.

    But he is also 'white', and has just released a book of his decades'
    collection of photos. Some of those are coloured, and others are black-and-white. He couldn't in all sincerity and true to origins take
    'just black' photos, cos he isn't. Though there is no reason why he
    couldn't have been.

    geoff

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  • From Norbert K@21:1/5 to Bruce on Sat Dec 25 03:00:38 2021
    On Friday, December 24, 2021 at 4:35:50 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
    On Friday, December 24, 2021 at 4:05:25 PM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
    On Friday, December 24, 2021 at 3:41:04 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
    On Friday, December 24, 2021 at 3:09:58 PM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
    On Friday, December 24, 2021 at 1:18:05 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
    On Friday, December 24, 2021 at 12:57:45 PM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:

    Both songs feature a great bass player named Chuck Rainey. (I'll bet Bruce approves of him, albeit for a reason other than his fine & funky bass playing.)
    Read my prior post, the color of his skin is not what I am talking about. It's the style of the music and whether or not it's popular in the black community. If you like funky bass playing, you should be listening to Graham Central Station and
    Funkadelic instead of Steely Fucking Dan and King Fucking Crimson.

    The Billboard Race/R&B/Soul/Black chart has never been about the sound of the music. It has ALWAYS Been about which records are popular in the black community. THAT'S what I am railing about. Not the color of the skin of the musicians, but the
    fact that most white people vastly prefer white sounding music to what is popular in the back community.

    Why is that?

    If race has nothing to do with music as you claim,
    I did not say that. What I said is that the race of a performer has nothing to do with my liking or disliking his work. E.g., the first time I heard Cat Stevens' "Trouble" I assumed it was by an older black guy. Turned out it was by a Greek-Brit -
    - and this had no effect at all on my attitude towards the song.
    why is there such a vast difference in the sound of the music that most whites listen to as opposed to the sound of the music that most blacks listen to?

    Why did the Beatles never place a single on the black charts?

    The Bee Gees had several big hits in the black community, and the Stones even had a few. But nothing ever from the biggest overall act ever.
    The Bee Gees and the Stones. Talk about fetid white bands.
    So, you like King Crimson and the Red Hot Chili Peppers, but not the Stones? Must be their strong black music influence that makes you not like them. They certainly weren't doing cornball Broadway show tunes like "Til There Was You." Insisted they
    were doing hard core
    black songs like "I'm A King Bee" and "Walking The Dog."
    I've already told you that my list was of songs that featured bars of 7; it wasn't about bands I like per se.

    Coincidentally, I like some of the RHCP albums very much. Their great bassist was very heavily influenced by the likes of Bootsy Collins and Bernard Edwards.
    What are your favorite recordings by Bootsy and Bernard themselves, rather than white guys who were influenced by them?

    Or do you prefer to listen to white guys do their interpretations of black music? You know, cultural appropriation?

    Who's your favorite blues artist? Some white guitarist who claims to be a bluesman?

    The theme of this thread is "Songs That Use Bars of 7."

    Your flaunting of your black fetish isn't pertinent to this thread or this group.

    Take your black fixation into a thread of your own. If you can make it pertinent to this group (e.g., "Black Artists Who Influenced the Beatles"), I might participate.

    Back on topic: "Frame By Frame" by King Crimson features lots of 7/8.

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  • From Norbert K@21:1/5 to geoff on Sat Dec 25 03:16:27 2021
    On Saturday, December 25, 2021 at 6:07:11 AM UTC-5, geoff wrote:
    On 26/12/2021 12:00 am, Norbert K wrote:
    On Friday, December 24, 2021 at 4:35:50 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
    On Friday, December 24, 2021 at 4:05:25 PM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
    On Friday, December 24, 2021 at 3:41:04 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
    On Friday, December 24, 2021 at 3:09:58 PM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote: >>>>> On Friday, December 24, 2021 at 1:18:05 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
    On Friday, December 24, 2021 at 12:57:45 PM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote: >>>>>>>
    Both songs feature a great bass player named Chuck Rainey. (I'll bet Bruce approves of him, albeit for a reason other than his fine & funky bass playing.)
    Read my prior post, the color of his skin is not what I am talking about. It's the style of the music and whether or not it's popular in the black community. If you like funky bass playing, you should be listening to Graham Central Station and
    Funkadelic instead of Steely Fucking Dan and King Fucking Crimson.

    The Billboard Race/R&B/Soul/Black chart has never been about the sound of the music. It has ALWAYS Been about which records are popular in the black community. THAT'S what I am railing about. Not the color of the skin of the musicians, but the
    fact that most white people vastly prefer white sounding music to what is popular in the back community.

    Why is that?

    If race has nothing to do with music as you claim,
    I did not say that. What I said is that the race of a performer has nothing to do with my liking or disliking his work. E.g., the first time I heard Cat Stevens' "Trouble" I assumed it was by an older black guy. Turned out it was by a Greek-Brit -
    - and this had no effect at all on my attitude towards the song.
    why is there such a vast difference in the sound of the music that most whites listen to as opposed to the sound of the music that most blacks listen to?

    Why did the Beatles never place a single on the black charts?

    The Bee Gees had several big hits in the black community, and the Stones even had a few. But nothing ever from the biggest overall act ever.
    The Bee Gees and the Stones. Talk about fetid white bands.
    So, you like King Crimson and the Red Hot Chili Peppers, but not the Stones? Must be their strong black music influence that makes you not like them. They certainly weren't doing cornball Broadway show tunes like "Til There Was You." Insisted they
    were doing hard core
    black songs like "I'm A King Bee" and "Walking The Dog."
    I've already told you that my list was of songs that featured bars of 7; it wasn't about bands I like per se.

    Coincidentally, I like some of the RHCP albums very much. Their great bassist was very heavily influenced by the likes of Bootsy Collins and Bernard Edwards.
    What are your favorite recordings by Bootsy and Bernard themselves, rather than white guys who were influenced by them?

    Or do you prefer to listen to white guys do their interpretations of black music? You know, cultural appropriation?

    Who's your favorite blues artist? Some white guitarist who claims to be a bluesman?

    The theme of this thread is "Songs That Use Bars of 7."

    Your flaunting of your black fetish isn't pertinent to this thread or this group.

    Take your black fixation into a thread of your own. If you can make it pertinent to this group (e.g., "Black Artists Who Influenced the Beatles"), I might participate.

    Back on topic: "Frame By Frame" by King Crimson features lots of 7/8.
    And to make it even more Beatle-relevant, Tony Levin played the bass on Double Fantasy.

    But he is also 'white', and has just released a book of his decades' collection of photos. Some of those are coloured, and others are black-and-white. He couldn't in all sincerity and true to origins take
    'just black' photos, cos he isn't. Though there is no reason why he
    couldn't have been.

    geoff

    A King Crimson Live in Japan 1984 concert came up on my Youtube this morning. Tony Levin played the Chapman Stick on the song I mentioned. The guy is versatile. I don't think too many people would listen to Levin's wild live Stick lines and think: "
    Hey! That's the guy who played on John Lennon's comeback album."

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to Norbert K on Sat Dec 25 07:04:58 2021
    On Saturday, December 25, 2021 at 6:00:40 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:

    The theme of this thread is "Songs That Use Bars of 7."

    I knew that you had no answers to my questions. Thanks for admitting it.

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  • From geoff@21:1/5 to Bruce on Sun Dec 26 13:15:29 2021
    On 26/12/2021 4:04 am, Bruce wrote:
    On Saturday, December 25, 2021 at 6:00:40 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:

    The theme of this thread is "Songs That Use Bars of 7."

    I knew that you had no answers to my questions. Thanks for admitting it.

    No, nobody is interested in you manic-obsessive questions because nobody
    here is as fucked up as you.

    Get treatment.

    geoff

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to geoff on Sat Dec 25 16:37:02 2021
    On Saturday, December 25, 2021 at 7:15:37 PM UTC-5, geoff wrote:
    On 26/12/2021 4:04 am, Bruce wrote:
    On Saturday, December 25, 2021 at 6:00:40 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:

    The theme of this thread is "Songs That Use Bars of 7."

    I knew that you had no answers to my questions. Thanks for admitting it.

    No, nobody is interested in you manic-obsessive questions because nobody
    here is as fucked up as you.

    Get treatment.

    Yes, I should do that so I can be more like you guys here.

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