• Re: Piccolo Trumpet - Penny Lane (3/3)

    From Curtis Eagal@21:1/5 to RJKe...@yahoo.com on Wed Jan 25 14:20:57 2023
    [continued from previous message]

    The 4.2 magnitude tremor striking Malibu, CA, around 2 am PST 25 January 2023 was widely felt with little damage, the timing suggesting the Higher Powers providing esoteric assistance in the cataclysmic onset scheduling: the Moon had decisively passed
    the Neptune-Vesta passage test interval from the Vesta lunar conjunct 12:42 am PST - the minor quake over an hour later had the Moon advanced by less than a degree, however then in trine with the Ascendant. Another potential 'hint' in the Malibu quake
    chart is Fortune with Ceres, possibly spotlighting the Solar Grand Trine, which has yet to enter its primary stage.

    Saturn, then Venus, rising for Geneva during the interval between the Neptune and Vesta lunar conjuncts was an ominous synchronization: Saturn reigning during the US Capitol riot now appears in a different role, heralding the arrival of Venus, who being
    debased seems to deserve appearing on the horizon when the explosive onset occurs, in contrast with Mercury having the same local Ascendant position during the 11 September 2001 attacks being described as 'insulted by warlike noise.'

    Since the Neptune-Vesta simple lunar passage theory is discarded, the III.3 perplexity is deduced again for the 10 January 2023 2:52 am CET Saturn lunar opposition - the timing matches the enumeration of the other Corinth-Ephesus quatrain (II.52). Saturn
    in Aquarius was then in the lunar-substitute 'two seas' condition with Neptune in Pisces, although not in precise adjacency; Neptune had its lunar quincunx earlier at 2:13 am CET, a 150-degree angle for the perplexity. The inference is that Saturn's
    known future role in the debasement of Venus scenario from X.28 is being telegraphed via judicial astrology, following the 2 November 2022 7:38 am CET situation, where Venus was at the Ascendant while the genuine 'two seas' adjacency existed for the Moon
    and Neptune, presenting the fateful false rapport with Venus.

    The Chiron lunar conjunct 26 January 2023 5:16 pm CET appears to match part of VI.70.

    For 27 January 2023 in Geneva using CET:

    12:42 am - Ceres solar trine commences, as the primary stage of the Great Urn protracted triangular formation with Mars;

    3:33 am - Venus enters Pisces, beginning her fateful reign, which will end surpassing the relative position of Lilith 28 January 2023 11:35 pm CET - Venus reigning as Mystery Babylon should be a requirement for a proper debasement;

    8:57 am - Saturn at the Ascendant, synchronized with Fortune at the Node;

    9:08 am - Venus at the Ascendant, with the Part of Fortune advanced to Ouranos - this is the critical time presumed for the initial explosive fiery portion of the cataclysm -

    << 27 January 2023 9:08 am CET / 3:08 am EST / 12:08 am PST >>;

    10 am - Vesta at the Ascendant, while Fortune is near Mars - this could be the X.6 prediction of 'Vesta sepulchral fire' without requiring a lunar aspect.

    The lunar conjunct subsequent to Chiron is with Ouranos 29 January 2023 4:37 am CET, again potentially relating to VI.70 for 'surpassing the Heavens.' The first part of VI.70 seems to indicate the Chiron solar trine of 4 December 2022 occurring the day
    after the Chiron lunar conjunct; the second portion appears to depict the later apocalyptic explosion as having noise and light surpassing The Heavens, with the cryptic Victor comment plausibly relating to the Russian-specified 8 December 2022 prisoner
    exchange of Viktor Bout for Brittney Griner in the final line.

    The secondary phase of the Solar Grand Trine as Great Urn is the Mars solar trine 30 January 2023 2:19 am CET, ending its official aspects.

    January 27 is feast for Saint Gilduin (d. 1071), Canon of Dol in Brittany (IV.95).

    The 28th could be Toulouse via Saint Thomas Aquinas (IX.9).

    Beheaded Saint Sabinian of Troyes (d. 295) could be used for linking 29 January 2023 with the trembling Gaul of X.58.

    The Three Holy Hierarchs for 30 January could explain the Bible-reading of V.83 and Great Basil reclaimed of VI.78, yet that is also feast for Saint Armentarius (d. 451) a bishop of Pavia, in the Lombard region. Double meanings could apply for the
    Lombardy lines.

    La gent Lombarde fera si grande effroi
    A ceux de l'Aigle compris sous la Balance

    The Lombard folk will be made so greatly afraid
    By those included under the Balance for Eagal

    The Venusian Nadir in my Geneva vigil is nothing anyone could witness - naming myself as judicial astrologer confirmed the 17 November 2022 12:47 am CET chart synchronized with the US announcement of Republican House chamber majority was the subject; the
    debt limit ceiling being reached on 19 January 2023, feast for Lombard Saint Bassian, appeared to be inferred, since the extreme faction that had been included are viewed as unlikely to affirm the national credit without essentially extorting major
    changes that would not be otherwise granted.

    Reading the same lines for Saint Armentarius having a cataclysm coincide with his 30 January feast also makes sense, if translating the preposition starting line 2 as 'As' instead of 'By' (both are allowable): there is trepidation over the debt limit
    conflict circa 19 January 2023 due to a political group included 16 November 2022 (the 'By those' case); yet visceral terror could prevail when the Lombard folk themselves are included 'As those' under the different Solar Grand Trine Balance of 30
    January 2023.

    Les noirs du temple du lieu de Negrisilve
    Feront auberge et feu de Lombardie

    The dark ones of the Temple in the Black Forest place
    Will make for Lombardy both Tavern and Fire

    The Tavern precursor for VI.16 was the Colorado Springs nightclub shooting at 20 November 2022, feast of Lombard Saint Benignus. The dark ones of the Temple are the angels administering the Cup of Divine Wrath - this is an illumination confirming the
    Geneva LHC near the Black Forest as the source for the subsequent punishing Fire event, which is also scheduled for a date with a Lombard saint commemoration, now presumed as Armentarius for 30 January 2023. My translation adds the word 'both' to suggest
    the event separation, although for clarity the angels with the sinister task would be concerned with the Fire event, probably as a sardonic response to the Tavern incident not of their making.

    The Trajan lamp of V.66 was martyred-by-burning Saint Nemesius from 19 December 2022, when found as IX.9 required at the end of a Vestal Reign; Nimes perishing by water could be a literal result of the flooding element, while the markets falling at
    Toulouse implies financial collapse. The Trajan Lamp having engraving with gold could regard the catastrophic fire of II.92.

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  • From Curtis Eagal@21:1/5 to Curtis Eagal on Fri Jan 27 03:37:07 2023
    [continued from previous message]

    The Western entreaty of X.58 by Ukraine for tanks against the Russian invasion has very recently received the desired response expeditiously.
    The Great Urn of X.50 appears to be Solar Grand Trine with Ceres and Mars that will be of sustained duration, like the instance circa 16 November 2022 - that sort of triangular Cup configuration should also be a potential Mobile Sign for I.54, rotating
    over time in the chart orientation. Thus despite its technical imperfection, the persistence of the Triangular Form throughout the time of the cataclysmic disruption is the relevant factor.

    The first establishing milestone for this Urn is the Ceres solar trine at 6 degrees 45 minutes (in Libra for Ceres, Aquarius for the Sun) 27 January 2023 around 1 am CET.

    The second foundational aspect is the Mars solar trine at 9 degrees 52 minutes (with Mars in Gemini) 30 January 2023 at 2:19 am CET; Ceres then will be at 6 degrees 53 minutes Libra.
    So the Sun consummates its role in the Ceres-Mars Solar Grand Trine over a three-day interval.
    The 4.2 magnitude tremor striking Malibu, CA, around 2 am PST 25 January 2023 was widely felt with little damage, the timing suggesting the Higher Powers providing esoteric assistance in the cataclysmic onset scheduling: the Moon had decisively passed
    the Neptune-Vesta passage test interval from the Vesta lunar conjunct 12:42 am PST - the minor quake over an hour later had the Moon advanced by less than a degree, however then in trine with the Ascendant. Another potential 'hint' in the Malibu quake
    chart is Fortune with Ceres, possibly spotlighting the Solar Grand Trine, which has yet to enter its primary stage.

    Saturn, then Venus, rising for Geneva during the interval between the Neptune and Vesta lunar conjuncts was an ominous synchronization: Saturn reigning during the US Capitol riot now appears in a different role, heralding the arrival of Venus, who
    being debased seems to deserve appearing on the horizon when the explosive onset occurs, in contrast with Mercury having the same local Ascendant position during the 11 September 2001 attacks being described as 'insulted by warlike noise.'

    Since the Neptune-Vesta simple lunar passage theory is discarded, the III.3 perplexity is deduced again for the 10 January 2023 2:52 am CET Saturn lunar opposition - the timing matches the enumeration of the other Corinth-Ephesus quatrain (II.52).
    Saturn in Aquarius was then in the lunar-substitute 'two seas' condition with Neptune in Pisces, although not in precise adjacency; Neptune had its lunar quincunx earlier at 2:13 am CET, a 150-degree angle for the perplexity. The inference is that Saturn'
    s known future role in the debasement of Venus scenario from X.28 is being telegraphed via judicial astrology, following the 2 November 2022 7:38 am CET situation, where Venus was at the Ascendant while the genuine 'two seas' adjacency existed for the
    Moon and Neptune, presenting the fateful false rapport with Venus.

    The Chiron lunar conjunct 26 January 2023 5:16 pm CET appears to match part of VI.70.

    For 27 January 2023 in Geneva using CET:

    12:42 am - Ceres solar trine commences, as the primary stage of the Great Urn protracted triangular formation with Mars;

    3:33 am - Venus enters Pisces, beginning her fateful reign, which will end surpassing the relative position of Lilith 28 January 2023 11:35 pm CET - Venus reigning as Mystery Babylon should be a requirement for a proper debasement;

    8:57 am - Saturn at the Ascendant, synchronized with Fortune at the Node;

    9:08 am - Venus at the Ascendant, with the Part of Fortune advanced to Ouranos - this is the critical time presumed for the initial explosive fiery portion of the cataclysm -

    << 27 January 2023 9:08 am CET / 3:08 am EST / 12:08 am PST >>;

    10 am - Vesta at the Ascendant, while Fortune is near Mars - this could be the X.6 prediction of 'Vesta sepulchral fire' without requiring a lunar aspect.

    The lunar conjunct subsequent to Chiron is with Ouranos 29 January 2023 4:37 am CET, again potentially relating to VI.70 for 'surpassing the Heavens.' The first part of VI.70 seems to indicate the Chiron solar trine of 4 December 2022 occurring the day
    after the Chiron lunar conjunct; the second portion appears to depict the later apocalyptic explosion as having noise and light surpassing The Heavens, with the cryptic Victor comment plausibly relating to the Russian-specified 8 December 2022 prisoner
    exchange of Viktor Bout for Brittney Griner in the final line.

    The secondary phase of the Solar Grand Trine as Great Urn is the Mars solar trine 30 January 2023 2:19 am CET, ending its official aspects.

    January 27 is feast for Saint Gilduin (d. 1071), Canon of Dol in Brittany (IV.95).

    The 28th could be Toulouse via Saint Thomas Aquinas (IX.9).

    Beheaded Saint Sabinian of Troyes (d. 295) could be used for linking 29 January 2023 with the trembling Gaul of X.58.

    The Three Holy Hierarchs for 30 January could explain the Bible-reading of V.83 and Great Basil reclaimed of VI.78, yet that is also feast for Saint Armentarius (d. 451) a bishop of Pavia, in the Lombard region. Double meanings could apply for the
    Lombardy lines.

    La gent Lombarde fera si grande effroi
    A ceux de l'Aigle compris sous la Balance
    The Lombard folk will be made so greatly afraid
    By those included under the Balance for Eagal

    The Venusian Nadir in my Geneva vigil is nothing anyone could witness - naming myself as judicial astrologer confirmed the 17 November 2022 12:47 am CET chart synchronized with the US announcement of Republican House chamber majority was the subject;
    the debt limit ceiling being reached on 19 January 2023, feast for Lombard Saint Bassian, appeared to be inferred, since the extreme faction that had been included are viewed as unlikely to affirm the national credit without essentially extorting major
    changes that would not be otherwise granted.

    Reading the same lines for Saint Armentarius having a cataclysm coincide with his 30 January feast also makes sense, if translating the preposition starting line 2 as 'As' instead of 'By' (both are allowable): there is trepidation over the debt limit
    conflict circa 19 January 2023 due to a political group included 16 November 2022 (the 'By those' case); yet visceral terror could prevail when the Lombard folk themselves are included 'As those' under the different Solar Grand Trine Balance of 30
    January 2023.

    Les noirs du temple du lieu de Negrisilve
    Feront auberge et feu de Lombardie

    The dark ones of the Temple in the Black Forest place
    Will make for Lombardy both Tavern and Fire

    The Tavern precursor for VI.16 was the Colorado Springs nightclub shooting at 20 November 2022, feast of Lombard Saint Benignus. The dark ones of the Temple are the angels administering the Cup of Divine Wrath - this is an illumination confirming the
    Geneva LHC near the Black Forest as the source for the subsequent punishing Fire event, which is also scheduled for a date with a Lombard saint commemoration, now presumed as Armentarius for 30 January 2023. My translation adds the word 'both' to suggest
    the event separation, although for clarity the angels with the sinister task would be concerned with the Fire event, probably as a sardonic response to the Tavern incident not of their making.

    The Trajan lamp of V.66 was martyred-by-burning Saint Nemesius from 19 December 2022, when found as IX.9 required at the end of a Vestal Reign; Nimes perishing by water could be a literal result of the flooding element, while the markets falling at
    Toulouse implies financial collapse. The Trajan Lamp having engraving with gold could regard the catastrophic fire of II.92.

    Sometimes the exact date and origin of the quotes have become unclear, however 1964 was when Lennon accurately projected the end of the group circa 1969.

    https://guyanachronicle.com/2014/02/02/the-beatles-arguably-the-most-successful-act-of-the-20th-century/

    << John Lennon was asked by a news reporter in 1964 “How long do you think the Beatles will last?”

    Lennon answered “About five years.”

    The Beatles began to break up in 1969. >>

    The 1969 reprise of their 1963 debut album cover photo could have been part of McCartney's idea of starting over from Square One, a notion Lennon perceived as 'daft' and ultimately unworkable: the Temple could only be preserved by destroying the creative
    source of their group collaboration as an official going concern. They would assert the band's existence as a legal entity to litigate the Beatlemania stage production, but an actual reunion of course never really happened.

    It would be a simple matter to parse out the contracted years-long schedule for releasing albums against the requisite stages in the Christian story, to project an eventual conclusion date. John also said while the subliminal communication could flow
    freely as he was attempting to make his guitar talk, for someone to properly perceive the sounds from a cold listening would require breaking down their own mental barriers. My own process is to repeat some musical phrases in isolation, to generate the
    complete transcription through thematic aggregation, since frequently they run too fast during the performance to consciously hear them all properly without being prepared. Focusing on the musical phrases, one might find sounds resembling the Biblical
    place names like Galilee, Nazareth, Jerusalem, Bethlehem, Egypt, etc.

    The early music developed a subconscious tone of reverence beneath a sensual surface presentation, starting from simple ideas and progressing into advanced theological inferences. For their cover of "Anna (Go To Him)," the title name matching that of
    Virgin Mary's own mother, they pretended difficulty in reproducing the original musical hook while refurbishing it to their own purpose; John's vocal seems to torturously repeat "Oh, oh, oh" at one point, sounding like,

    'Hymn's A Form
    Of Worship';

    And the exaggerated harmonic resonance on the final syllable suggests not "HIM" but 'HYMN.'

    While the early original lyrics were full of repetitive pronouns, the word "You" being repeated emphatically in "Hold Me Tight" deviates from a starting point, so the listener is meant to hear, 'It's You - You Were Wounded...' - so it becomes a tune
    about the Apostles amazed by the manifestation of the Risen Christ.

    The vocal scatting technique was evident in "Your Mother Should Know" and various White Album tracks; John and Paul learned an acoustic guitar picking method from Donovan during the meditation retreat in India that provided a folksy, more pristine
    atmosphere after the sophisticated instrumental overdubs of their 1967 recordings. The Beatles commenced recording "You Know My Name (Look Up The Number)" circa 1967, and it was released as the B-Side of their final single "Let It Be" - while the melody
    meanders into its dissonant coda, the vocal message that can be made out is -

    "What you gonna do -
    When
    THAT'S ALL?!"

    The Michelangelo-reminiscent visual overtones were from the first album photo shoot: they wanted to pose on a spiral staircase, the Titan started with a frieze called "Madonna Of The Stairs"; the half-shadow faces on the second album were in parallel
    with the chiaroscuro effect of the deep relief The Battle of The Centaurs; the line in "A Hard Day's Night" that says "I should be sleeping like a log" recalls the Sleeping Cupid Michelangelo attempted to pass off as a phony Greek antiquity before
    creating his Standing Cupid. The ink drawing and photo collage for REVOLVER depicts McCartney blowing a piccolo, resembling a trumpeting angel in The Last Judgment fresco.

    The Shakespearean correspondences are complex, most notably Hamlet's dying words invoke Death as a "Fell Sergeant," which appeared to emerge in the garbling of their most iconic album title as, 'Sergeant Death Has KNOWN THE Hearts Of Man."

    Likewise, the connections with Lewis Carroll are more extensive than the "I Am The Walrus" sequence from "Magical Mystery Tour": sound engineers describing chopping old tapes of Victorian steam organs into foot-long strips, throwing them into the air
    then reassembling them, to achieve the swirling background noise for "Being For The Benefit Of Mister Kite!" could have been aware they were enacting instructions from the Carrollian poem "Poeta Fit Non Nascitur" --

    "For first you write a sentence,
    And then you chop it small;
    Then mix the bits, and sort them out
    Just as they chance to fall:
    The order of the phrases makes
    No difference at all."

    The band themselves were performing some parts an octave lower than intended at half-speed, with a madcap melody nonetheless having a profound message about the miraculous power of Faith. John Lennon would later affirm, "We BELIEVED... Suddenly, we didn'
    t believe."

    *

    There is an intriguing line opening IV.58 about swallowing the burning Sun down the throat, suggesting a Solar Nadir situation; the current configuration has the Sun followed at the Nadir by Saturn (28 January 2023 1:58 am CET), then Venus. Also the
    Balance circumstance from 17 November 2022 12:47 am CET was a Venusian Nadir chart (during a single-day Venus Reign), which only occurs once during the current Venus reign -

    << 28 January 2023 2:21 am CET / 27 January 2023 8:21 pm EST / 5:21 pm PST >>

    The Solar Grand Trine with Mars and Ceres is then oriented almost identically in its being Balanced towards the Right as the prior mid-November 2022 instance, with both cases featuring the Sun as the lower Fulcrum point.

    The Solar Nadir chart 28 January 2023 12:48 am CET has the quirks of coinciding with Moonset and Fortune at Midheaven.

    The Moon will be precisely between its positions for the successive Ceres and Mars trines 28 January 2023 2:53 pm CET: that moment finds Ceres at the base of the chart with Fortune (independent of the House cusps), in opposition with Juno; the trine line
    between Mars and the Sun appears nearly horizontal, in the upper portion of the chart. This gives the impression of an accurately proportioned Christian Crucifix, unusual with astrological charts where a Cross is usually considered a ninety-degree 'X'
    formation.

    The Moon will encounter the Node 28 January 2023 4:54 pm CET, before reaching its conjunct with Ouranos.

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  • From RJKellog@yahoo.com@21:1/5 to eagali...@gmail.com on Sat Jan 28 08:50:25 2023
    [continued from previous message]

    The Western entreaty of X.58 by Ukraine for tanks against the Russian invasion has very recently received the desired response expeditiously.
    The Great Urn of X.50 appears to be Solar Grand Trine with Ceres and Mars that will be of sustained duration, like the instance circa 16 November 2022 - that sort of triangular Cup configuration should also be a potential Mobile Sign for I.54, rotating
    over time in the chart orientation. Thus despite its technical imperfection, the persistence of the Triangular Form throughout the time of the cataclysmic disruption is the relevant factor.

    The first establishing milestone for this Urn is the Ceres solar trine at 6 degrees 45 minutes (in Libra for Ceres, Aquarius for the Sun) 27 January 2023 around 1 am CET.

    The second foundational aspect is the Mars solar trine at 9 degrees 52 minutes (with Mars in Gemini) 30 January 2023 at 2:19 am CET; Ceres then will be at 6 degrees 53 minutes Libra.
    So the Sun consummates its role in the Ceres-Mars Solar Grand Trine over a three-day interval.
    The 4.2 magnitude tremor striking Malibu, CA, around 2 am PST 25 January 2023 was widely felt with little damage, the timing suggesting the Higher Powers providing esoteric assistance in the cataclysmic onset scheduling: the Moon had decisively passed
    the Neptune-Vesta passage test interval from the Vesta lunar conjunct 12:42 am PST - the minor quake over an hour later had the Moon advanced by less than a degree, however then in trine with the Ascendant. Another potential 'hint' in the Malibu quake
    chart is Fortune with Ceres, possibly spotlighting the Solar Grand Trine, which has yet to enter its primary stage.

    Saturn, then Venus, rising for Geneva during the interval between the Neptune and Vesta lunar conjuncts was an ominous synchronization: Saturn reigning during the US Capitol riot now appears in a different role, heralding the arrival of Venus, who
    being debased seems to deserve appearing on the horizon when the explosive onset occurs, in contrast with Mercury having the same local Ascendant position during the 11 September 2001 attacks being described as 'insulted by warlike noise.'

    Since the Neptune-Vesta simple lunar passage theory is discarded, the III.3 perplexity is deduced again for the 10 January 2023 2:52 am CET Saturn lunar opposition - the timing matches the enumeration of the other Corinth-Ephesus quatrain (II.52).
    Saturn in Aquarius was then in the lunar-substitute 'two seas' condition with Neptune in Pisces, although not in precise adjacency; Neptune had its lunar quincunx earlier at 2:13 am CET, a 150-degree angle for the perplexity. The inference is that Saturn'
    s known future role in the debasement of Venus scenario from X.28 is being telegraphed via judicial astrology, following the 2 November 2022 7:38 am CET situation, where Venus was at the Ascendant while the genuine 'two seas' adjacency existed for the
    Moon and Neptune, presenting the fateful false rapport with Venus.

    The Chiron lunar conjunct 26 January 2023 5:16 pm CET appears to match part of VI.70.

    For 27 January 2023 in Geneva using CET:

    12:42 am - Ceres solar trine commences, as the primary stage of the Great Urn protracted triangular formation with Mars;

    3:33 am - Venus enters Pisces, beginning her fateful reign, which will end surpassing the relative position of Lilith 28 January 2023 11:35 pm CET - Venus reigning as Mystery Babylon should be a requirement for a proper debasement;

    8:57 am - Saturn at the Ascendant, synchronized with Fortune at the Node;

    9:08 am - Venus at the Ascendant, with the Part of Fortune advanced to Ouranos - this is the critical time presumed for the initial explosive fiery portion of the cataclysm -

    << 27 January 2023 9:08 am CET / 3:08 am EST / 12:08 am PST >>;

    10 am - Vesta at the Ascendant, while Fortune is near Mars - this could be the X.6 prediction of 'Vesta sepulchral fire' without requiring a lunar aspect.

    The lunar conjunct subsequent to Chiron is with Ouranos 29 January 2023 4:37 am CET, again potentially relating to VI.70 for 'surpassing the Heavens.' The first part of VI.70 seems to indicate the Chiron solar trine of 4 December 2022 occurring the day
    after the Chiron lunar conjunct; the second portion appears to depict the later apocalyptic explosion as having noise and light surpassing The Heavens, with the cryptic Victor comment plausibly relating to the Russian-specified 8 December 2022 prisoner
    exchange of Viktor Bout for Brittney Griner in the final line.

    The secondary phase of the Solar Grand Trine as Great Urn is the Mars solar trine 30 January 2023 2:19 am CET, ending its official aspects.

    January 27 is feast for Saint Gilduin (d. 1071), Canon of Dol in Brittany (IV.95).

    The 28th could be Toulouse via Saint Thomas Aquinas (IX.9).

    Beheaded Saint Sabinian of Troyes (d. 295) could be used for linking 29 January 2023 with the trembling Gaul of X.58.

    The Three Holy Hierarchs for 30 January could explain the Bible-reading of V.83 and Great Basil reclaimed of VI.78, yet that is also feast for Saint Armentarius (d. 451) a bishop of Pavia, in the Lombard region. Double meanings could apply for the
    Lombardy lines.

    La gent Lombarde fera si grande effroi
    A ceux de l'Aigle compris sous la Balance
    The Lombard folk will be made so greatly afraid
    By those included under the Balance for Eagal

    The Venusian Nadir in my Geneva vigil is nothing anyone could witness - naming myself as judicial astrologer confirmed the 17 November 2022 12:47 am CET chart synchronized with the US announcement of Republican House chamber majority was the subject;
    the debt limit ceiling being reached on 19 January 2023, feast for Lombard Saint Bassian, appeared to be inferred, since the extreme faction that had been included are viewed as unlikely to affirm the national credit without essentially extorting major
    changes that would not be otherwise granted.

    Reading the same lines for Saint Armentarius having a cataclysm coincide with his 30 January feast also makes sense, if translating the preposition starting line 2 as 'As' instead of 'By' (both are allowable): there is trepidation over the debt limit
    conflict circa 19 January 2023 due to a political group included 16 November 2022 (the 'By those' case); yet visceral terror could prevail when the Lombard folk themselves are included 'As those' under the different Solar Grand Trine Balance of 30
    January 2023.

    Les noirs du temple du lieu de Negrisilve
    Feront auberge et feu de Lombardie

    The dark ones of the Temple in the Black Forest place
    Will make for Lombardy both Tavern and Fire

    The Tavern precursor for VI.16 was the Colorado Springs nightclub shooting at 20 November 2022, feast of Lombard Saint Benignus. The dark ones of the Temple are the angels administering the Cup of Divine Wrath - this is an illumination confirming the
    Geneva LHC near the Black Forest as the source for the subsequent punishing Fire event, which is also scheduled for a date with a Lombard saint commemoration, now presumed as Armentarius for 30 January 2023. My translation adds the word 'both' to suggest
    the event separation, although for clarity the angels with the sinister task would be concerned with the Fire event, probably as a sardonic response to the Tavern incident not of their making.

    The Trajan lamp of V.66 was martyred-by-burning Saint Nemesius from 19 December 2022, when found as IX.9 required at the end of a Vestal Reign; Nimes perishing by water could be a literal result of the flooding element, while the markets falling at
    Toulouse implies financial collapse. The Trajan Lamp having engraving with gold could regard the catastrophic fire of II.92.

    Thanks for the quote. I wonder when the band's end began to feel like a real possibility to the lads. With Brian Epstein's death?

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  • From Curtis Eagal@21:1/5 to RJKe...@yahoo.com on Sat Jan 28 09:10:25 2023
    [continued from previous message]

    Numerous events have manifested as a series of precursors for the double cataclysm of fire and flood since the 25 October 2022 solar eclipse: the Pelosi home invasion hammer attack (X.35, V.66); the Seoul Halloween crowd crush (X.28); the Colorado
    Springs nightclub shooting (as a Tavern at Lombardy via Saint Benignus); the 8 December Griner-Bout prisoner exchange (IV.58 etc); the inclusion of an extreme faction in the new US House majority inclined to disavow the national debt (V.42 for 19 January
    2023 as Lombardy via Saint Bassian); the Great Mercury flowering of US lies in Brazil for their insurrection, overtaking the presidential palace before massive capture, the day after a Mercury solar conjunct (X.79, V.66); and the plane crash in Nepal
    into a gorge whose name was properly transliterated as 'Bristle,' with Lyons-Marseilles hints for Saint Bonitus with the 15 January feast (I.72, X.88).

    The Western entreaty of X.58 by Ukraine for tanks against the Russian invasion has very recently received the desired response expeditiously.
    The Great Urn of X.50 appears to be Solar Grand Trine with Ceres and Mars that will be of sustained duration, like the instance circa 16 November 2022 - that sort of triangular Cup configuration should also be a potential Mobile Sign for I.54,
    rotating over time in the chart orientation. Thus despite its technical imperfection, the persistence of the Triangular Form throughout the time of the cataclysmic disruption is the relevant factor.

    The first establishing milestone for this Urn is the Ceres solar trine at 6 degrees 45 minutes (in Libra for Ceres, Aquarius for the Sun) 27 January 2023 around 1 am CET.

    The second foundational aspect is the Mars solar trine at 9 degrees 52 minutes (with Mars in Gemini) 30 January 2023 at 2:19 am CET; Ceres then will be at 6 degrees 53 minutes Libra.
    So the Sun consummates its role in the Ceres-Mars Solar Grand Trine over a three-day interval.
    The 4.2 magnitude tremor striking Malibu, CA, around 2 am PST 25 January 2023 was widely felt with little damage, the timing suggesting the Higher Powers providing esoteric assistance in the cataclysmic onset scheduling: the Moon had decisively
    passed the Neptune-Vesta passage test interval from the Vesta lunar conjunct 12:42 am PST - the minor quake over an hour later had the Moon advanced by less than a degree, however then in trine with the Ascendant. Another potential 'hint' in the Malibu
    quake chart is Fortune with Ceres, possibly spotlighting the Solar Grand Trine, which has yet to enter its primary stage.

    Saturn, then Venus, rising for Geneva during the interval between the Neptune and Vesta lunar conjuncts was an ominous synchronization: Saturn reigning during the US Capitol riot now appears in a different role, heralding the arrival of Venus, who
    being debased seems to deserve appearing on the horizon when the explosive onset occurs, in contrast with Mercury having the same local Ascendant position during the 11 September 2001 attacks being described as 'insulted by warlike noise.'

    Since the Neptune-Vesta simple lunar passage theory is discarded, the III.3 perplexity is deduced again for the 10 January 2023 2:52 am CET Saturn lunar opposition - the timing matches the enumeration of the other Corinth-Ephesus quatrain (II.52).
    Saturn in Aquarius was then in the lunar-substitute 'two seas' condition with Neptune in Pisces, although not in precise adjacency; Neptune had its lunar quincunx earlier at 2:13 am CET, a 150-degree angle for the perplexity. The inference is that Saturn'
    s known future role in the debasement of Venus scenario from X.28 is being telegraphed via judicial astrology, following the 2 November 2022 7:38 am CET situation, where Venus was at the Ascendant while the genuine 'two seas' adjacency existed for the
    Moon and Neptune, presenting the fateful false rapport with Venus.

    The Chiron lunar conjunct 26 January 2023 5:16 pm CET appears to match part of VI.70.

    For 27 January 2023 in Geneva using CET:

    12:42 am - Ceres solar trine commences, as the primary stage of the Great Urn protracted triangular formation with Mars;

    3:33 am - Venus enters Pisces, beginning her fateful reign, which will end surpassing the relative position of Lilith 28 January 2023 11:35 pm CET - Venus reigning as Mystery Babylon should be a requirement for a proper debasement;

    8:57 am - Saturn at the Ascendant, synchronized with Fortune at the Node;

    9:08 am - Venus at the Ascendant, with the Part of Fortune advanced to Ouranos - this is the critical time presumed for the initial explosive fiery portion of the cataclysm -

    << 27 January 2023 9:08 am CET / 3:08 am EST / 12:08 am PST >>;

    10 am - Vesta at the Ascendant, while Fortune is near Mars - this could be the X.6 prediction of 'Vesta sepulchral fire' without requiring a lunar aspect.

    The lunar conjunct subsequent to Chiron is with Ouranos 29 January 2023 4:37 am CET, again potentially relating to VI.70 for 'surpassing the Heavens.' The first part of VI.70 seems to indicate the Chiron solar trine of 4 December 2022 occurring the
    day after the Chiron lunar conjunct; the second portion appears to depict the later apocalyptic explosion as having noise and light surpassing The Heavens, with the cryptic Victor comment plausibly relating to the Russian-specified 8 December 2022
    prisoner exchange of Viktor Bout for Brittney Griner in the final line.

    The secondary phase of the Solar Grand Trine as Great Urn is the Mars solar trine 30 January 2023 2:19 am CET, ending its official aspects.

    January 27 is feast for Saint Gilduin (d. 1071), Canon of Dol in Brittany (IV.95).

    The 28th could be Toulouse via Saint Thomas Aquinas (IX.9).

    Beheaded Saint Sabinian of Troyes (d. 295) could be used for linking 29 January 2023 with the trembling Gaul of X.58.

    The Three Holy Hierarchs for 30 January could explain the Bible-reading of V.83 and Great Basil reclaimed of VI.78, yet that is also feast for Saint Armentarius (d. 451) a bishop of Pavia, in the Lombard region. Double meanings could apply for the
    Lombardy lines.

    La gent Lombarde fera si grande effroi
    A ceux de l'Aigle compris sous la Balance
    The Lombard folk will be made so greatly afraid
    By those included under the Balance for Eagal

    The Venusian Nadir in my Geneva vigil is nothing anyone could witness - naming myself as judicial astrologer confirmed the 17 November 2022 12:47 am CET chart synchronized with the US announcement of Republican House chamber majority was the subject;
    the debt limit ceiling being reached on 19 January 2023, feast for Lombard Saint Bassian, appeared to be inferred, since the extreme faction that had been included are viewed as unlikely to affirm the national credit without essentially extorting major
    changes that would not be otherwise granted.

    Reading the same lines for Saint Armentarius having a cataclysm coincide with his 30 January feast also makes sense, if translating the preposition starting line 2 as 'As' instead of 'By' (both are allowable): there is trepidation over the debt limit
    conflict circa 19 January 2023 due to a political group included 16 November 2022 (the 'By those' case); yet visceral terror could prevail when the Lombard folk themselves are included 'As those' under the different Solar Grand Trine Balance of 30
    January 2023.

    Les noirs du temple du lieu de Negrisilve
    Feront auberge et feu de Lombardie

    The dark ones of the Temple in the Black Forest place
    Will make for Lombardy both Tavern and Fire

    The Tavern precursor for VI.16 was the Colorado Springs nightclub shooting at 20 November 2022, feast of Lombard Saint Benignus. The dark ones of the Temple are the angels administering the Cup of Divine Wrath - this is an illumination confirming the
    Geneva LHC near the Black Forest as the source for the subsequent punishing Fire event, which is also scheduled for a date with a Lombard saint commemoration, now presumed as Armentarius for 30 January 2023. My translation adds the word 'both' to suggest
    the event separation, although for clarity the angels with the sinister task would be concerned with the Fire event, probably as a sardonic response to the Tavern incident not of their making.

    The Trajan lamp of V.66 was martyred-by-burning Saint Nemesius from 19 December 2022, when found as IX.9 required at the end of a Vestal Reign; Nimes perishing by water could be a literal result of the flooding element, while the markets falling at
    Toulouse implies financial collapse. The Trajan Lamp having engraving with gold could regard the catastrophic fire of II.92.
    Thanks for the quote. I wonder when the band's end began to feel like a real possibility to the lads. With Brian Epstein's death?

    John said after Sgt Pepper it was a slow death, perhaps realizing the innuendo.

    Since they were no longer touring when Brian Epstein died, his purpose was questionable; he had given away most of the American merchandising rights for the asking, when having their images on everything was a potential lucrative outgrowth from the mania.

    With Paul especially, they wanted to branch out, into Apple Records' own stable of stars, and even retail with a boutique. But that allowed them to mentally evade the ticking clock on their own progression into non-existence.

    They had begun meditating, attempting to find inner solace without the band camaraderie and touring experiences, finding the purity of their craft on a rooftop in India.

    Losing Brian Epstein must have been a sad shock, but the real problem was what The Beatles itself was a format devised to honor Someone Else whose life events were incontrovertibly finite.

    The opening electric guitar phrase in the fanfare for the Lonely Hearts Club Band sounds like,

    'Baptizing-Man!-'

    When McCartney returned to the subject of Christ's Baptism by His Cousin John in the River Jordan with "Band On The Run," an opening guitar phrase resembles,

    'The Good Baptizer-Man'

    The two subliminal transcriptions depict the same event using different musical inventions, something that would have been overwrought for a Supergroup to sustain.

    The love story between John and Yoko is what defines the second-phase esoteric timing for the group.

    Counting from the debut album being released March 1963, their ceasing to tour and perform for live audiences at the end of August 1966 made an interval of forty-two months.

    John met Yoko at an arranged private early showing of her exhibit at the Indica Gallery in London on 8 November 1966; the final album release by the band was on 8 May 1970, three-and-a-half years to-the-day, or 1260 days as prophetically calculated. The
    Israelis regained Jerusalem in June 1967, another factor in the prophecy over which no single person had any real control.

    Prophet Daniel in the Babylonian Captivity foresaw the future rebuilding of the Temple, and devised a chronology into the Messianic Era, leaving a 'Missing Seventieth Week' as an End-Times interval of about seven years, for humanity to confirm the divine
    covenant, or face stern judgment.

    Revelation 11 has the latter half of the seven years depicted by 'two witnesses clothed in sackcloth': John and Yoko would create Bag Productions, wear matching white outfits, and staged an event writhing in a large burlap sack. By designating them as '
    two olive trees' the symbol of Peace was invoked, in parallel with their planting of trees for the Peace Movement.

    Beyond her audio brand of conceptual art, there could be some foundational contributions to their own albums, such as minimalism with the White Album cover idea, and the Lennon-Ono-Harrison collaboration on "Revolution 9."

    The influence went both ways: the 'War Is Over' billboards commissioned by John and Yoko echoed a sentiment found in the reversed lead vocal from Paul McCartney circa 1966.

    Yoko Ono means Ocean Child, and John's father Alfred was a sailor; four characters in Revelation are respectively associated with the elemental forces of The Heavens, Earth, Fountains, and Oceans.

    Chuck Berry's reaction to Ono's vocal modulation during a Mike Douglas Show performance demonstrated the aesthetic clash in the audio field.

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  • From Curtis Eagal@21:1/5 to Curtis Eagal on Sat Jan 28 17:01:20 2023
    [continued from previous message]

    "We're not going to fizzle out in half a day. But afterwards I'm not going to change into a tap-dancing musical. I'll just develop what I'm doing at the moment.

    This isn't show business.

    This is different from anything that anybody imagines.

    You don't go on from this.

    You do this, and then you finish."

    The other remark about not being able to continue after a certain point is more obscure. In the Fly On The Wall audio excerpt Lennon was overheard discussing how God is the gimmick in their music, an impression that was masterfully fostered through
    the recordings.

    George Martin scored "Yesterday" to McCartney's specifications, although disliking a certain note he perceived as groaning. Later Martin expressed disappointment that due to his being busy, Paul turned to Mike Leander instead for scoring "She's
    Leaving Home." Martin performed the middle instrumental for "In My Life" at half-speed while the group was on a break, but he knew what they wanted by that point.

    Saturnins To Herald Queen Venus With Solar Grand Trine Cup
    [27 January 2023 9:08 am CET / 3:08 am EST / 12:08 am PST]

    Numerous events have manifested as a series of precursors for the double cataclysm of fire and flood since the 25 October 2022 solar eclipse: the Pelosi home invasion hammer attack (X.35, V.66); the Seoul Halloween crowd crush (X.28); the Colorado
    Springs nightclub shooting (as a Tavern at Lombardy via Saint Benignus); the 8 December Griner-Bout prisoner exchange (IV.58 etc); the inclusion of an extreme faction in the new US House majority inclined to disavow the national debt (V.42 for 19 January
    2023 as Lombardy via Saint Bassian); the Great Mercury flowering of US lies in Brazil for their insurrection, overtaking the presidential palace before massive capture, the day after a Mercury solar conjunct (X.79, V.66); and the plane crash in Nepal
    into a gorge whose name was properly transliterated as 'Bristle,' with Lyons-Marseilles hints for Saint Bonitus with the 15 January feast (I.72, X.88).

    The Western entreaty of X.58 by Ukraine for tanks against the Russian invasion has very recently received the desired response expeditiously.
    The Great Urn of X.50 appears to be Solar Grand Trine with Ceres and Mars that will be of sustained duration, like the instance circa 16 November 2022 - that sort of triangular Cup configuration should also be a potential Mobile Sign for I.54,
    rotating over time in the chart orientation. Thus despite its technical imperfection, the persistence of the Triangular Form throughout the time of the cataclysmic disruption is the relevant factor.

    The first establishing milestone for this Urn is the Ceres solar trine at 6 degrees 45 minutes (in Libra for Ceres, Aquarius for the Sun) 27 January 2023 around 1 am CET.

    The second foundational aspect is the Mars solar trine at 9 degrees 52 minutes (with Mars in Gemini) 30 January 2023 at 2:19 am CET; Ceres then will be at 6 degrees 53 minutes Libra.
    So the Sun consummates its role in the Ceres-Mars Solar Grand Trine over a three-day interval.
    The 4.2 magnitude tremor striking Malibu, CA, around 2 am PST 25 January 2023 was widely felt with little damage, the timing suggesting the Higher Powers providing esoteric assistance in the cataclysmic onset scheduling: the Moon had decisively
    passed the Neptune-Vesta passage test interval from the Vesta lunar conjunct 12:42 am PST - the minor quake over an hour later had the Moon advanced by less than a degree, however then in trine with the Ascendant. Another potential 'hint' in the Malibu
    quake chart is Fortune with Ceres, possibly spotlighting the Solar Grand Trine, which has yet to enter its primary stage.

    Saturn, then Venus, rising for Geneva during the interval between the Neptune and Vesta lunar conjuncts was an ominous synchronization: Saturn reigning during the US Capitol riot now appears in a different role, heralding the arrival of Venus, who
    being debased seems to deserve appearing on the horizon when the explosive onset occurs, in contrast with Mercury having the same local Ascendant position during the 11 September 2001 attacks being described as 'insulted by warlike noise.'

    Since the Neptune-Vesta simple lunar passage theory is discarded, the III.3 perplexity is deduced again for the 10 January 2023 2:52 am CET Saturn lunar opposition - the timing matches the enumeration of the other Corinth-Ephesus quatrain (II.52).
    Saturn in Aquarius was then in the lunar-substitute 'two seas' condition with Neptune in Pisces, although not in precise adjacency; Neptune had its lunar quincunx earlier at 2:13 am CET, a 150-degree angle for the perplexity. The inference is that Saturn'
    s known future role in the debasement of Venus scenario from X.28 is being telegraphed via judicial astrology, following the 2 November 2022 7:38 am CET situation, where Venus was at the Ascendant while the genuine 'two seas' adjacency existed for the
    Moon and Neptune, presenting the fateful false rapport with Venus.

    The Chiron lunar conjunct 26 January 2023 5:16 pm CET appears to match part of VI.70.

    For 27 January 2023 in Geneva using CET:

    12:42 am - Ceres solar trine commences, as the primary stage of the Great Urn protracted triangular formation with Mars;

    3:33 am - Venus enters Pisces, beginning her fateful reign, which will end surpassing the relative position of Lilith 28 January 2023 11:35 pm CET - Venus reigning as Mystery Babylon should be a requirement for a proper debasement;

    8:57 am - Saturn at the Ascendant, synchronized with Fortune at the Node;

    9:08 am - Venus at the Ascendant, with the Part of Fortune advanced to Ouranos - this is the critical time presumed for the initial explosive fiery portion of the cataclysm -

    << 27 January 2023 9:08 am CET / 3:08 am EST / 12:08 am PST >>;

    10 am - Vesta at the Ascendant, while Fortune is near Mars - this could be the X.6 prediction of 'Vesta sepulchral fire' without requiring a lunar aspect.

    The lunar conjunct subsequent to Chiron is with Ouranos 29 January 2023 4:37 am CET, again potentially relating to VI.70 for 'surpassing the Heavens.' The first part of VI.70 seems to indicate the Chiron solar trine of 4 December 2022 occurring the
    day after the Chiron lunar conjunct; the second portion appears to depict the later apocalyptic explosion as having noise and light surpassing The Heavens, with the cryptic Victor comment plausibly relating to the Russian-specified 8 December 2022
    prisoner exchange of Viktor Bout for Brittney Griner in the final line.

    The secondary phase of the Solar Grand Trine as Great Urn is the Mars solar trine 30 January 2023 2:19 am CET, ending its official aspects.

    January 27 is feast for Saint Gilduin (d. 1071), Canon of Dol in Brittany (IV.95).

    The 28th could be Toulouse via Saint Thomas Aquinas (IX.9).

    Beheaded Saint Sabinian of Troyes (d. 295) could be used for linking 29 January 2023 with the trembling Gaul of X.58.

    The Three Holy Hierarchs for 30 January could explain the Bible-reading of V.83 and Great Basil reclaimed of VI.78, yet that is also feast for Saint Armentarius (d. 451) a bishop of Pavia, in the Lombard region. Double meanings could apply for the
    Lombardy lines.

    La gent Lombarde fera si grande effroi
    A ceux de l'Aigle compris sous la Balance
    The Lombard folk will be made so greatly afraid
    By those included under the Balance for Eagal

    The Venusian Nadir in my Geneva vigil is nothing anyone could witness - naming myself as judicial astrologer confirmed the 17 November 2022 12:47 am CET chart synchronized with the US announcement of Republican House chamber majority was the
    subject; the debt limit ceiling being reached on 19 January 2023, feast for Lombard Saint Bassian, appeared to be inferred, since the extreme faction that had been included are viewed as unlikely to affirm the national credit without essentially
    extorting major changes that would not be otherwise granted.

    Reading the same lines for Saint Armentarius having a cataclysm coincide with his 30 January feast also makes sense, if translating the preposition starting line 2 as 'As' instead of 'By' (both are allowable): there is trepidation over the debt
    limit conflict circa 19 January 2023 due to a political group included 16 November 2022 (the 'By those' case); yet visceral terror could prevail when the Lombard folk themselves are included 'As those' under the different Solar Grand Trine Balance of 30
    January 2023.

    Les noirs du temple du lieu de Negrisilve
    Feront auberge et feu de Lombardie

    The dark ones of the Temple in the Black Forest place
    Will make for Lombardy both Tavern and Fire

    The Tavern precursor for VI.16 was the Colorado Springs nightclub shooting at 20 November 2022, feast of Lombard Saint Benignus. The dark ones of the Temple are the angels administering the Cup of Divine Wrath - this is an illumination confirming
    the Geneva LHC near the Black Forest as the source for the subsequent punishing Fire event, which is also scheduled for a date with a Lombard saint commemoration, now presumed as Armentarius for 30 January 2023. My translation adds the word 'both' to
    suggest the event separation, although for clarity the angels with the sinister task would be concerned with the Fire event, probably as a sardonic response to the Tavern incident not of their making.

    The Trajan lamp of V.66 was martyred-by-burning Saint Nemesius from 19 December 2022, when found as IX.9 required at the end of a Vestal Reign; Nimes perishing by water could be a literal result of the flooding element, while the markets falling at
    Toulouse implies financial collapse. The Trajan Lamp having engraving with gold could regard the catastrophic fire of II.92.
    Thanks for the quote. I wonder when the band's end began to feel like a real possibility to the lads. With Brian Epstein's death?
    John said after Sgt Pepper it was a slow death, perhaps realizing the innuendo.

    Since they were no longer touring when Brian Epstein died, his purpose was questionable; he had given away most of the American merchandising rights for the asking, when having their images on everything was a potential lucrative outgrowth from the
    mania.

    With Paul especially, they wanted to branch out, into Apple Records' own stable of stars, and even retail with a boutique. But that allowed them to mentally evade the ticking clock on their own progression into non-existence.

    They had begun meditating, attempting to find inner solace without the band camaraderie and touring experiences, finding the purity of their craft on a rooftop in India.

    Losing Brian Epstein must have been a sad shock, but the real problem was what The Beatles itself was a format devised to honor Someone Else whose life events were incontrovertibly finite.

    The opening electric guitar phrase in the fanfare for the Lonely Hearts Club Band sounds like,

    'Baptizing-Man!-'

    When McCartney returned to the subject of Christ's Baptism by His Cousin John in the River Jordan with "Band On The Run," an opening guitar phrase resembles,

    'The Good Baptizer-Man'

    The two subliminal transcriptions depict the same event using different musical inventions, something that would have been overwrought for a Supergroup to sustain.

    The love story between John and Yoko is what defines the second-phase esoteric timing for the group.

    Counting from the debut album being released March 1963, their ceasing to tour and perform for live audiences at the end of August 1966 made an interval of forty-two months.

    John met Yoko at an arranged private early showing of her exhibit at the Indica Gallery in London on 8 November 1966; the final album release by the band was on 8 May 1970, three-and-a-half years to-the-day, or 1260 days as prophetically calculated.
    The Israelis regained Jerusalem in June 1967, another factor in the prophecy over which no single person had any real control.

    Prophet Daniel in the Babylonian Captivity foresaw the future rebuilding of the Temple, and devised a chronology into the Messianic Era, leaving a 'Missing Seventieth Week' as an End-Times interval of about seven years, for humanity to confirm the
    divine covenant, or face stern judgment.

    Revelation 11 has the latter half of the seven years depicted by 'two witnesses clothed in sackcloth': John and Yoko would create Bag Productions, wear matching white outfits, and staged an event writhing in a large burlap sack. By designating them as '
    two olive trees' the symbol of Peace was invoked, in parallel with their planting of trees for the Peace Movement.

    Beyond her audio brand of conceptual art, there could be some foundational contributions to their own albums, such as minimalism with the White Album cover idea, and the Lennon-Ono-Harrison collaboration on "Revolution 9."

    The influence went both ways: the 'War Is Over' billboards commissioned by John and Yoko echoed a sentiment found in the reversed lead vocal from Paul McCartney circa 1966.

    Yoko Ono means Ocean Child, and John's father Alfred was a sailor; four characters in Revelation are respectively associated with the elemental forces of The Heavens, Earth, Fountains, and Oceans.

    Chuck Berry's reaction to Ono's vocal modulation during a Mike Douglas Show performance demonstrated the aesthetic clash in the audio field.

    Gaslighting prophetic fulfillment into ridicule is not righteousness. I pre-monitored the Capitol riot, expecting extreme violence from the 4 January 2021 lunar aspects with the Vesta-Neptune opposition, to the 6 January 2021 end of the long cycle for
    Saturn reigning; when it manifested as the disruption of letters in I.62, further confirming with lunar cycle information, a line there foretold the fire and flood as a karmic consequence, as the culmination of the Anaxagoric revolution mentioned in the
    seer's Preface. That is what the archives would show in this real world. I also anticipated the March 2020 Covid lockdown time for a major setback before the virus existed; and around 6 March 2020 I was posting that 25 May 2020 would have an event
    unleashing 'The Ire of Hannibal' - of course the George Floyd murder on Memorial Day made that a reality, but I was following a sequence of events, and pinpointed that day as feast for Saint Leo of Troyes.

    Experience has shown a conglomeration of indisputable precursors as recently observed renders the associated larger catastrophic event imminent - a simple logical reassessment is required, not confused capitulation back to blissful ignorance.

    The Venusian Reign from Pisces, second in January, has ended, although the Solar Grand Trine has not reached its secondary stage as the Great Urn.

    Venus next reaches the Nadir 29 January 2023 2:22 am CET [28 January 2023 8:22 pm EST / 5:22 pm PST], with Lilith reigning.

    Then Venus follows Saturn at the Ascendant 29 January 2023 9:06 am CET.

    The Lombardy date of 30 January might be the onset date, if proximity to the Venusian Reign and a further progressed Solar Grand Trine is indicated.

    The Ouranos lunar conjunct 29 January 2023 4:37 am CET puts the Moon where VI.70 line 3 suggests.

    Venus following Saturn at the Geneva Nadir during the Mars solar trine 30 January 2023 2:22 am CET is perhaps not merely a coincidence, but the significant synchronization for the cataclysmic onset: that moment has Fortune merged with Lilith (reigning
    from 2 degrees 24 minutes Leo). The Moon sets soon after, around 3 am CET.

    If the onset time is then, designating whatever conditions arrive before that as critical for this incident would not be correct, or plausibly succeed as a conjecture.

    The Great Urn of the Sun-Mars-Ceres Grand Trine spanning several degrees made it difficult to discern, yet it should provide major guidance towards the timing, and this is the most logical way: the final consummation of the Aquarian Sun in trine with
    Mars in Gemini, both at 9 degrees 52 minutes, will be sustained through the time Venus is at the Nadir for Geneva.

    The Mars solar trine is about two minutes of a degree from happening when Saturn reaches the Nadir 30 January 2023 1:51 am CET - the relative positions of Mars and the Sun first match at 2:19 am CET.

    So the Grand Trine has one of its 'walls' becoming technically official synchronized with Venus arriving at the Nadir (and definitely not the Ascendant) in Geneva for

    << 30 January 2023 2:22 am CET / 29 January 2023 8:22 pm EST / 5:22 pm PST >>

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  • From Curtis Eagal@21:1/5 to Curtis Eagal on Mon Jan 30 02:05:27 2023
    [continued from previous message]

    The second foundational aspect is the Mars solar trine at 9 degrees 52 minutes (with Mars in Gemini) 30 January 2023 at 2:19 am CET; Ceres then will be at 6 degrees 53 minutes Libra.


    Lennon had forecast the break-up of the group years before it happened, explaining they simply could not keep the franchise going by thinking up new things
    Re: Lennon predicting the Beatles' breakup, I believe you, but can I see the quote?
    One such comment from John Lennon is accessible (without providing source or date, although likely late 1964) at -

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/lifestyle/1980/12/14/the-lennon-legend/d3edf3e6-cfa5-405f-bf08-3880c853d509/

    "We're not going to fizzle out in half a day. But afterwards I'm not going to change into a tap-dancing musical. I'll just develop what I'm doing at the moment.

    This isn't show business.

    This is different from anything that anybody imagines.

    You don't go on from this.

    You do this, and then you finish."

    The other remark about not being able to continue after a certain point is more obscure. In the Fly On The Wall audio excerpt Lennon was overheard discussing how God is the gimmick in their music, an impression that was masterfully fostered
    through the recordings.

    George Martin scored "Yesterday" to McCartney's specifications, although disliking a certain note he perceived as groaning. Later Martin expressed disappointment that due to his being busy, Paul turned to Mike Leander instead for scoring "She's
    Leaving Home." Martin performed the middle instrumental for "In My Life" at half-speed while the group was on a break, but he knew what they wanted by that point.

    Saturnins To Herald Queen Venus With Solar Grand Trine Cup
    [27 January 2023 9:08 am CET / 3:08 am EST / 12:08 am PST]

    Numerous events have manifested as a series of precursors for the double cataclysm of fire and flood since the 25 October 2022 solar eclipse: the Pelosi home invasion hammer attack (X.35, V.66); the Seoul Halloween crowd crush (X.28); the
    Colorado Springs nightclub shooting (as a Tavern at Lombardy via Saint Benignus); the 8 December Griner-Bout prisoner exchange (IV.58 etc); the inclusion of an extreme faction in the new US House majority inclined to disavow the national debt (V.42 for
    19 January 2023 as Lombardy via Saint Bassian); the Great Mercury flowering of US lies in Brazil for their insurrection, overtaking the presidential palace before massive capture, the day after a Mercury solar conjunct (X.79, V.66); and the plane crash
    in Nepal into a gorge whose name was properly transliterated as 'Bristle,' with Lyons-Marseilles hints for Saint Bonitus with the 15 January feast (I.72, X.88).

    The Western entreaty of X.58 by Ukraine for tanks against the Russian invasion has very recently received the desired response expeditiously.
    The Great Urn of X.50 appears to be Solar Grand Trine with Ceres and Mars that will be of sustained duration, like the instance circa 16 November 2022 - that sort of triangular Cup configuration should also be a potential Mobile Sign for I.54,
    rotating over time in the chart orientation. Thus despite its technical imperfection, the persistence of the Triangular Form throughout the time of the cataclysmic disruption is the relevant factor.

    The first establishing milestone for this Urn is the Ceres solar trine at 6 degrees 45 minutes (in Libra for Ceres, Aquarius for the Sun) 27 January 2023 around 1 am CET.

    The second foundational aspect is the Mars solar trine at 9 degrees 52 minutes (with Mars in Gemini) 30 January 2023 at 2:19 am CET; Ceres then will be at 6 degrees 53 minutes Libra.
    So the Sun consummates its role in the Ceres-Mars Solar Grand Trine over a three-day interval.
    The 4.2 magnitude tremor striking Malibu, CA, around 2 am PST 25 January 2023 was widely felt with little damage, the timing suggesting the Higher Powers providing esoteric assistance in the cataclysmic onset scheduling: the Moon had decisively
    passed the Neptune-Vesta passage test interval from the Vesta lunar conjunct 12:42 am PST - the minor quake over an hour later had the Moon advanced by less than a degree, however then in trine with the Ascendant. Another potential 'hint' in the Malibu
    quake chart is Fortune with Ceres, possibly spotlighting the Solar Grand Trine, which has yet to enter its primary stage.

    Saturn, then Venus, rising for Geneva during the interval between the Neptune and Vesta lunar conjuncts was an ominous synchronization: Saturn reigning during the US Capitol riot now appears in a different role, heralding the arrival of Venus,
    who being debased seems to deserve appearing on the horizon when the explosive onset occurs, in contrast with Mercury having the same local Ascendant position during the 11 September 2001 attacks being described as 'insulted by warlike noise.'

    Since the Neptune-Vesta simple lunar passage theory is discarded, the III.3 perplexity is deduced again for the 10 January 2023 2:52 am CET Saturn lunar opposition - the timing matches the enumeration of the other Corinth-Ephesus quatrain (II.52).
    Saturn in Aquarius was then in the lunar-substitute 'two seas' condition with Neptune in Pisces, although not in precise adjacency; Neptune had its lunar quincunx earlier at 2:13 am CET, a 150-degree angle for the perplexity. The inference is that
    Saturn's known future role in the debasement of Venus scenario from X.28 is being telegraphed via judicial astrology, following the 2 November 2022 7:38 am CET situation, where Venus was at the Ascendant while the genuine 'two seas' adjacency existed for
    the Moon and Neptune, presenting the fateful false rapport with Venus.

    The Chiron lunar conjunct 26 January 2023 5:16 pm CET appears to match part of VI.70.

    For 27 January 2023 in Geneva using CET:

    12:42 am - Ceres solar trine commences, as the primary stage of the Great Urn protracted triangular formation with Mars;

    3:33 am - Venus enters Pisces, beginning her fateful reign, which will end surpassing the relative position of Lilith 28 January 2023 11:35 pm CET - Venus reigning as Mystery Babylon should be a requirement for a proper debasement;

    8:57 am - Saturn at the Ascendant, synchronized with Fortune at the Node;

    9:08 am - Venus at the Ascendant, with the Part of Fortune advanced to Ouranos - this is the critical time presumed for the initial explosive fiery portion of the cataclysm -

    << 27 January 2023 9:08 am CET / 3:08 am EST / 12:08 am PST >>;

    10 am - Vesta at the Ascendant, while Fortune is near Mars - this could be the X.6 prediction of 'Vesta sepulchral fire' without requiring a lunar aspect.

    The lunar conjunct subsequent to Chiron is with Ouranos 29 January 2023 4:37 am CET, again potentially relating to VI.70 for 'surpassing the Heavens.' The first part of VI.70 seems to indicate the Chiron solar trine of 4 December 2022 occurring
    the day after the Chiron lunar conjunct; the second portion appears to depict the later apocalyptic explosion as having noise and light surpassing The Heavens, with the cryptic Victor comment plausibly relating to the Russian-specified 8 December 2022
    prisoner exchange of Viktor Bout for Brittney Griner in the final line.

    The secondary phase of the Solar Grand Trine as Great Urn is the Mars solar trine 30 January 2023 2:19 am CET, ending its official aspects.

    January 27 is feast for Saint Gilduin (d. 1071), Canon of Dol in Brittany (IV.95).

    The 28th could be Toulouse via Saint Thomas Aquinas (IX.9).

    Beheaded Saint Sabinian of Troyes (d. 295) could be used for linking 29 January 2023 with the trembling Gaul of X.58.

    The Three Holy Hierarchs for 30 January could explain the Bible-reading of V.83 and Great Basil reclaimed of VI.78, yet that is also feast for Saint Armentarius (d. 451) a bishop of Pavia, in the Lombard region. Double meanings could apply for
    the Lombardy lines.

    La gent Lombarde fera si grande effroi
    A ceux de l'Aigle compris sous la Balance
    The Lombard folk will be made so greatly afraid
    By those included under the Balance for Eagal

    The Venusian Nadir in my Geneva vigil is nothing anyone could witness - naming myself as judicial astrologer confirmed the 17 November 2022 12:47 am CET chart synchronized with the US announcement of Republican House chamber majority was the
    subject; the debt limit ceiling being reached on 19 January 2023, feast for Lombard Saint Bassian, appeared to be inferred, since the extreme faction that had been included are viewed as unlikely to affirm the national credit without essentially
    extorting major changes that would not be otherwise granted.

    Reading the same lines for Saint Armentarius having a cataclysm coincide with his 30 January feast also makes sense, if translating the preposition starting line 2 as 'As' instead of 'By' (both are allowable): there is trepidation over the debt
    limit conflict circa 19 January 2023 due to a political group included 16 November 2022 (the 'By those' case); yet visceral terror could prevail when the Lombard folk themselves are included 'As those' under the different Solar Grand Trine Balance of 30
    January 2023.

    Les noirs du temple du lieu de Negrisilve
    Feront auberge et feu de Lombardie

    The dark ones of the Temple in the Black Forest place
    Will make for Lombardy both Tavern and Fire

    The Tavern precursor for VI.16 was the Colorado Springs nightclub shooting at 20 November 2022, feast of Lombard Saint Benignus. The dark ones of the Temple are the angels administering the Cup of Divine Wrath - this is an illumination confirming
    the Geneva LHC near the Black Forest as the source for the subsequent punishing Fire event, which is also scheduled for a date with a Lombard saint commemoration, now presumed as Armentarius for 30 January 2023. My translation adds the word 'both' to
    suggest the event separation, although for clarity the angels with the sinister task would be concerned with the Fire event, probably as a sardonic response to the Tavern incident not of their making.

    The Trajan lamp of V.66 was martyred-by-burning Saint Nemesius from 19 December 2022, when found as IX.9 required at the end of a Vestal Reign; Nimes perishing by water could be a literal result of the flooding element, while the markets falling
    at Toulouse implies financial collapse. The Trajan Lamp having engraving with gold could regard the catastrophic fire of II.92.
    Thanks for the quote. I wonder when the band's end began to feel like a real possibility to the lads. With Brian Epstein's death?
    John said after Sgt Pepper it was a slow death, perhaps realizing the innuendo.

    Since they were no longer touring when Brian Epstein died, his purpose was questionable; he had given away most of the American merchandising rights for the asking, when having their images on everything was a potential lucrative outgrowth from the
    mania.

    With Paul especially, they wanted to branch out, into Apple Records' own stable of stars, and even retail with a boutique. But that allowed them to mentally evade the ticking clock on their own progression into non-existence.

    They had begun meditating, attempting to find inner solace without the band camaraderie and touring experiences, finding the purity of their craft on a rooftop in India.

    Losing Brian Epstein must have been a sad shock, but the real problem was what The Beatles itself was a format devised to honor Someone Else whose life events were incontrovertibly finite.

    The opening electric guitar phrase in the fanfare for the Lonely Hearts Club Band sounds like,

    'Baptizing-Man!-'

    When McCartney returned to the subject of Christ's Baptism by His Cousin John in the River Jordan with "Band On The Run," an opening guitar phrase resembles,

    'The Good Baptizer-Man'

    The two subliminal transcriptions depict the same event using different musical inventions, something that would have been overwrought for a Supergroup to sustain.

    The love story between John and Yoko is what defines the second-phase esoteric timing for the group.

    Counting from the debut album being released March 1963, their ceasing to tour and perform for live audiences at the end of August 1966 made an interval of forty-two months.

    John met Yoko at an arranged private early showing of her exhibit at the Indica Gallery in London on 8 November 1966; the final album release by the band was on 8 May 1970, three-and-a-half years to-the-day, or 1260 days as prophetically calculated.
    The Israelis regained Jerusalem in June 1967, another factor in the prophecy over which no single person had any real control.

    Prophet Daniel in the Babylonian Captivity foresaw the future rebuilding of the Temple, and devised a chronology into the Messianic Era, leaving a 'Missing Seventieth Week' as an End-Times interval of about seven years, for humanity to confirm the
    divine covenant, or face stern judgment.

    Revelation 11 has the latter half of the seven years depicted by 'two witnesses clothed in sackcloth': John and Yoko would create Bag Productions, wear matching white outfits, and staged an event writhing in a large burlap sack. By designating them
    as 'two olive trees' the symbol of Peace was invoked, in parallel with their planting of trees for the Peace Movement.

    Beyond her audio brand of conceptual art, there could be some foundational contributions to their own albums, such as minimalism with the White Album cover idea, and the Lennon-Ono-Harrison collaboration on "Revolution 9."

    The influence went both ways: the 'War Is Over' billboards commissioned by John and Yoko echoed a sentiment found in the reversed lead vocal from Paul McCartney circa 1966.

    Yoko Ono means Ocean Child, and John's father Alfred was a sailor; four characters in Revelation are respectively associated with the elemental forces of The Heavens, Earth, Fountains, and Oceans.

    Chuck Berry's reaction to Ono's vocal modulation during a Mike Douglas Show performance demonstrated the aesthetic clash in the audio field.
    Gaslighting prophetic fulfillment into ridicule is not righteousness. I pre-monitored the Capitol riot, expecting extreme violence from the 4 January 2021 lunar aspects with the Vesta-Neptune opposition, to the 6 January 2021 end of the long cycle for
    Saturn reigning; when it manifested as the disruption of letters in I.62, further confirming with lunar cycle information, a line there foretold the fire and flood as a karmic consequence, as the culmination of the Anaxagoric revolution mentioned in the
    seer's Preface. That is what the archives would show in this real world. I also anticipated the March 2020 Covid lockdown time for a major setback before the virus existed; and around 6 March 2020 I was posting that 25 May 2020 would have an event
    unleashing 'The Ire of Hannibal' - of course the George Floyd murder on Memorial Day made that a reality, but I was following a sequence of events, and pinpointed that day as feast for Saint Leo of Troyes.

    Experience has shown a conglomeration of indisputable precursors as recently observed renders the associated larger catastrophic event imminent - a simple logical reassessment is required, not confused capitulation back to blissful ignorance.

    The Venusian Reign from Pisces, second in January, has ended, although the Solar Grand Trine has not reached its secondary stage as the Great Urn.

    Venus next reaches the Nadir 29 January 2023 2:22 am CET [28 January 2023 8:22 pm EST / 5:22 pm PST], with Lilith reigning.

    Then Venus follows Saturn at the Ascendant 29 January 2023 9:06 am CET.

    The Lombardy date of 30 January might be the onset date, if proximity to the Venusian Reign and a further progressed Solar Grand Trine is indicated.

    The Ouranos lunar conjunct 29 January 2023 4:37 am CET puts the Moon where VI.70 line 3 suggests.

    Venus following Saturn at the Geneva Nadir during the Mars solar trine 30 January 2023 2:22 am CET is perhaps not merely a coincidence, but the significant synchronization for the cataclysmic onset: that moment has Fortune merged with Lilith (reigning
    from 2 degrees 24 minutes Leo). The Moon sets soon after, around 3 am CET.

    If the onset time is then, designating whatever conditions arrive before that as critical for this incident would not be correct, or plausibly succeed as a conjecture.

    The Great Urn of the Sun-Mars-Ceres Grand Trine spanning several degrees made it difficult to discern, yet it should provide major guidance towards the timing, and this is the most logical way: the final consummation of the Aquarian Sun in trine with
    Mars in Gemini, both at 9 degrees 52 minutes, will be sustained through the time Venus is at the Nadir for Geneva.

    The Mars solar trine is about two minutes of a degree from happening when Saturn reaches the Nadir 30 January 2023 1:51 am CET - the relative positions of Mars and the Sun first match at 2:19 am CET.

    So the Grand Trine has one of its 'walls' becoming technically official synchronized with Venus arriving at the Nadir (and definitely not the Ascendant) in Geneva for

    << 30 January 2023 2:22 am CET / 29 January 2023 8:22 pm EST / 5:22 pm PST >>

    The interview in Chicago 11 August 1966 was where John made his comment about not being able to keep the group going with new gimmicks; the transcript is online in two parts, notable excerpts below.

    http://www.beatlesinterviews.org/db1966.0811.beatles.html

    Q: "Do you think you're being crucified?"

    JOHN: (clearly and seriously) "No, I wouldn't say THAT at all!"

    (laughter from reporters)...

    GEORGE: "It's the same old wrong mess. They've just taken it the wrong way, and that's just the pity that... It's this misunderstanding which shouldn't be." ...

    Q: "What's the most enjoyable thing for you four about this adulation-- this almost 'Godhood on earth' that you've achieved?"

    JOHN: (looks away distastefully) "Don't say that."

    (laughter)

    PAUL: (pointing to the reporter) "It was him. He said it."

    JOHN: (to the other reporters) "Now, you all SAW that." ...

    Q: (to George) "What about you? What was your reaction to what he said, and the reaction TO what he said?"

    GEORGE: "Well, in the context that it was meant-- it was the fact that christianity is declining, and everybody knows about that, and that was the fact that was trying to be made."

    Q: (to George) "Do you agree with it?"

    GEORGE: "I do agree. I agree that it's on the wane." ...

    Q: "Can I have just one more question? I'd like to ask your reaction to the fact that at London Airport this morning, some of the girls were crying, 'John, not Jesus.'"

    JOHN: "Well you know, I don't take that seriously, either."

    PAUL: "They're taking it the wrong way like everyone else, you know."

    Q: "Are you unhappy about that?"

    JOHN: "No, you know-- It'll get straightened out, because... I mean, I could have stopped there and said, 'Now listen, that's wrong, what you're saying,' but I couldn't do that-- I had to come over here anyway and do all this, and try and straighten THIS
    out first. So, if it does get straightened out, it'll be straightened out for THEM." ...

    http://www.beatlesinterviews.org/db1966.0812.beatles.html

    Q: "Mr. Lennon, we've been hearing a great deal of interpretations of your comment regarding the Beatles and Jesus. Could you tell us what you really meant by that statement?"

    JOHN: "Uhh. I'll try and tell ya. I was sort of deploring the attitude that... I wasn't saying whatever they were saying I was saying, anyway. That's the main thing about it." ...

    Q: "John, are you familiar with-- that in the American press, a great many ministers have agreed with you in the full context of what you said, and that most of the concern and oversimplification of what you said came from what we call the 'Bible Belt,'
    quite notorious for christian attitude?"

    PAUL: "Yeah. The thing is that they seem to think that by saying that, you know, John's gettin' at them. But he isn't at all, you know. It's just a straight comment on something, which may be right and may be wrong, but he's gotta answer as he feels
    honestly, you know. And if they think that for him to say that is wrong then they don't believe in free speech, you know. And I thought everyone here did."

    Q: "The point is, by many thinking Americans, it was just that." ...

    GEORGE: "But they always write about the bad things much more than the good things, anyway. So that's why it got to this scale."

    Q: "It's always the 'superior' Americans that are more verbal."

    (laughter) ...

    JOHN: "I think that... My views are only from what I've read or observed of christianity and what it was, and what it has been, or what it could be-- it just seems to me to be shrinking. I'm not knocking it or saying it's bad. I'm just saying it seems to
    be shrinking and losing contact."

    PAUL: "And we all deplore the fact that it is, you know. That's the main point about it all."

    JOHN: "Nothing better seems to be replacing it, so we're not saying anything about that."

    PAUL: "And if you say something that you think may vaguely in a way be helpful, you know... because if it is on the decline in any way, then to say it's on the decline must be helpful, rather than destructive, you know."

    JOHN: "It's silly going on saying, 'Yes, it's all fine, and yeah yeah, we're all christians and we're all doing this' when we're all not doing it. You know, I just said what I thought." ...

    JOHN: "Although, I think Christ was what he was, and if anybody says anything great about him, I believe. But I'm not a practicing christian like I was brought up to be. But I don't have unchristian thoughts!"

    (laughter) ...

    JOHN: "Well, you know, I don't like sort of supposing that somebody like Jesus was alive now and pretending-- imagining what he'd do. But I mean, if he was Jesus and he held that he was the real Jesus that had the same views as before, well 'Eleanor
    Rigby' wouldn't mean much to him." ...

    GEORGE: "The thing is, if we do slip it doesn't matter. You know, I mean, so what-- we slip and so we're not popular anymore so we'll be us unpopular, won't we. You know, we'll be like we were before, maybe."

    JOHN: "And we can't invent a new gimmick to keep us going like people imagine we do." ...

    Q: "John, Your music has changed immensely since you first started out. Is this because you've become more professional, or is it that you're trying to show the public..."

    JOHN: "It's not trying, or being professional. It's just, you know, a progression."

    GEORGE: "It's trying to satisfy ourselves, in a way. But you know, that's why we try and do things better-- because we never get satisfied."

    JOHN: "It's only that, you know. It's not sitting 'round thinking, 'Next week we'll do so-and-so and we'll record like that.' It just sort of happens."

    *

    The Memphis police Scorpion unit stopped Tyre Nichols 7 January 2023, day of the Mercury solar conjunct associated with the Brasilia insurrection the following day in X.79 (Nichols died from his beating on 10 January). The first line invoked President
    Biden signing the Infrastructure Law into being 15 November 2021, so that the old roads could be refurbished; the second line sardonically states those roads could be traveled upon to reach Memphis stirred up, or incited. (A reference to the 4 April 1968
    assassination of Dr King in Memphis is not required, although 3 April 2022 was when the Ukrainian president first accused Russia of genocide.)

    Les vieux chemins seront tous embellis
    L'on passera a Memphis somentree
    Le grand Mercure d'Hercules fleur de lis
    Faisant trembler terre, mer et contree

    The old roads will all be embellished -
    One could travel upon them to Memphis incited:
    Great Mercury as Hercules' lies flower, relished -
    The trembling of land, sea and country thus invited

    It is unlikely the broadcast of the Memphis incident videos was the significance for the 30 January date; also Venus at the Nadir coinciding with the Mars solar trine was questionable for Saturn passing the Nadir to be termed Saturnin, more suggestive of
    an above-Ecliptic observation.

    Proceeding to the Descendant cases for 30 January 2023, there was a quirk noticed which could prove significant (using CET):

    6:53 pm - Saturn at Descendant (the ringed planet is depicted as ominous in IX.44, V.24, etc.);

    7:41 pm - Venus at Descendant - The falling of Venus is accompanied by the impression of an Upright Grand Trine with a Lunar Apex, reminiscent of the IV.31 post-Super-Moon condition observed for 16 July 2022 2:06 am CEST.

    The Moon at 5 degrees 9 minutes Gemini is between Mars and the skewed Midheaven point; Ceres is at 6 Degrees 54 minutes Libra; and the Vertex has slipped between Pluto and the Sun at 4 degrees 18 minutes Aquarius. This essentially briefly rejuvenates the
    Sun-Mars-Ceres Great Urn configuration by keeping slow Ceres, while replacing Mars with the approaching Moon, and substituting the swift-moving Vertex for the solar position.

    That unexpected discovery renders the critical time as -

    << 30 January 2023 7:41 pm CET / 1:41 pm EST / 10:41 am PST >>

    The reinvigorated Great Urn of Moon-Ceres-Vertex is extremely transitory, particularly with its Upright orientation.

    The Vertex reaches the Sun around 8 pm CET, with the Triangle still appearing vertically-oriented; the Moon reaches Midheaven about ten minutes later.

    Neptune follows Venus at the Descendant 9:22 pm CET, with lunar non-compliance for any associated perplexity, the Moon at six degrees, after a sextile aspect with Jupiter, nearing the Ceres lunar trine (Ceres and Jupiter roughly being in opposition). The
    2 November 2022 7:38 am CET (II.52, X.28) and 10 January 2023 2:52 am CET (III.3) cases were sufficient to explain the Corinth-Ephesus lines as signposts using judicial astrology.

    Then Vesta descends 9:37 pm CET, perhaps marking the 'sepulchral fire' stage for X.6 - but if not then in that way, some other way sometime soon: the late January 2023 agitation of Memphis, Tennessee, makes it clear the fulfillments for the cataclysmic
    precursors are currently transpiring.

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  • From Curtis Eagal@21:1/5 to Curtis Eagal on Mon Jan 30 13:59:12 2023
    [continued from previous message]

    The prophetic conundrum of the Cup filled with Divine Fury being given to Venus as Mystery Babylon could be solved by acknowledging a protracted Solar Grand Trine with Mars and Ceres noticeable over several days in late January 2023.

    The Great Urn of X.50 appears to be Solar Grand Trine with Ceres and Mars that will be of sustained duration, like the instance circa 16 November 2022 - that sort of triangular Cup configuration should also be a potential Mobile Sign for I.
    54, rotating over time in the chart orientation.

    Thus despite its technical imperfection, the persistence of the Triangular Form throughout the time of the cataclysmic disruption is the relevant factor.

    The first establishing milestone for this Urn is the Ceres solar trine at 6 degrees 45 minutes (in Libra for Ceres, Aquarius for the Sun) 27 January 2023 around 1 am CET.

    The second foundational aspect is the Mars solar trine at 9 degrees 52 minutes (with Mars in Gemini) 30 January 2023 at 2:19 am CET; Ceres then will be at 6 degrees 53 minutes Libra.


    Lennon had forecast the break-up of the group years before it happened, explaining they simply could not keep the franchise going by thinking up new things
    Re: Lennon predicting the Beatles' breakup, I believe you, but can I see the quote?
    One such comment from John Lennon is accessible (without providing source or date, although likely late 1964) at -

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/lifestyle/1980/12/14/the-lennon-legend/d3edf3e6-cfa5-405f-bf08-3880c853d509/

    "We're not going to fizzle out in half a day. But afterwards I'm not going to change into a tap-dancing musical. I'll just develop what I'm doing at the moment.

    This isn't show business.

    This is different from anything that anybody imagines.

    You don't go on from this.

    You do this, and then you finish."

    The other remark about not being able to continue after a certain point is more obscure. In the Fly On The Wall audio excerpt Lennon was overheard discussing how God is the gimmick in their music, an impression that was masterfully fostered
    through the recordings.

    George Martin scored "Yesterday" to McCartney's specifications, although disliking a certain note he perceived as groaning. Later Martin expressed disappointment that due to his being busy, Paul turned to Mike Leander instead for scoring "She's
    Leaving Home." Martin performed the middle instrumental for "In My Life" at half-speed while the group was on a break, but he knew what they wanted by that point.

    Saturnins To Herald Queen Venus With Solar Grand Trine Cup
    [27 January 2023 9:08 am CET / 3:08 am EST / 12:08 am PST]

    Numerous events have manifested as a series of precursors for the double cataclysm of fire and flood since the 25 October 2022 solar eclipse: the Pelosi home invasion hammer attack (X.35, V.66); the Seoul Halloween crowd crush (X.28); the
    Colorado Springs nightclub shooting (as a Tavern at Lombardy via Saint Benignus); the 8 December Griner-Bout prisoner exchange (IV.58 etc); the inclusion of an extreme faction in the new US House majority inclined to disavow the national debt (V.42 for
    19 January 2023 as Lombardy via Saint Bassian); the Great Mercury flowering of US lies in Brazil for their insurrection, overtaking the presidential palace before massive capture, the day after a Mercury solar conjunct (X.79, V.66); and the plane crash
    in Nepal into a gorge whose name was properly transliterated as 'Bristle,' with Lyons-Marseilles hints for Saint Bonitus with the 15 January feast (I.72, X.88).

    The Western entreaty of X.58 by Ukraine for tanks against the Russian invasion has very recently received the desired response expeditiously.
    The Great Urn of X.50 appears to be Solar Grand Trine with Ceres and Mars that will be of sustained duration, like the instance circa 16 November 2022 - that sort of triangular Cup configuration should also be a potential Mobile Sign for I.54,
    rotating over time in the chart orientation. Thus despite its technical imperfection, the persistence of the Triangular Form throughout the time of the cataclysmic disruption is the relevant factor.

    The first establishing milestone for this Urn is the Ceres solar trine at 6 degrees 45 minutes (in Libra for Ceres, Aquarius for the Sun) 27 January 2023 around 1 am CET.

    The second foundational aspect is the Mars solar trine at 9 degrees 52 minutes (with Mars in Gemini) 30 January 2023 at 2:19 am CET; Ceres then will be at 6 degrees 53 minutes Libra.
    So the Sun consummates its role in the Ceres-Mars Solar Grand Trine over a three-day interval.
    The 4.2 magnitude tremor striking Malibu, CA, around 2 am PST 25 January 2023 was widely felt with little damage, the timing suggesting the Higher Powers providing esoteric assistance in the cataclysmic onset scheduling: the Moon had decisively
    passed the Neptune-Vesta passage test interval from the Vesta lunar conjunct 12:42 am PST - the minor quake over an hour later had the Moon advanced by less than a degree, however then in trine with the Ascendant. Another potential 'hint' in the Malibu
    quake chart is Fortune with Ceres, possibly spotlighting the Solar Grand Trine, which has yet to enter its primary stage.

    Saturn, then Venus, rising for Geneva during the interval between the Neptune and Vesta lunar conjuncts was an ominous synchronization: Saturn reigning during the US Capitol riot now appears in a different role, heralding the arrival of Venus,
    who being debased seems to deserve appearing on the horizon when the explosive onset occurs, in contrast with Mercury having the same local Ascendant position during the 11 September 2001 attacks being described as 'insulted by warlike noise.'

    Since the Neptune-Vesta simple lunar passage theory is discarded, the III.3 perplexity is deduced again for the 10 January 2023 2:52 am CET Saturn lunar opposition - the timing matches the enumeration of the other Corinth-Ephesus quatrain (II.
    52). Saturn in Aquarius was then in the lunar-substitute 'two seas' condition with Neptune in Pisces, although not in precise adjacency; Neptune had its lunar quincunx earlier at 2:13 am CET, a 150-degree angle for the perplexity. The inference is that
    Saturn's known future role in the debasement of Venus scenario from X.28 is being telegraphed via judicial astrology, following the 2 November 2022 7:38 am CET situation, where Venus was at the Ascendant while the genuine 'two seas' adjacency existed for
    the Moon and Neptune, presenting the fateful false rapport with Venus.

    The Chiron lunar conjunct 26 January 2023 5:16 pm CET appears to match part of VI.70.

    For 27 January 2023 in Geneva using CET:

    12:42 am - Ceres solar trine commences, as the primary stage of the Great Urn protracted triangular formation with Mars;

    3:33 am - Venus enters Pisces, beginning her fateful reign, which will end surpassing the relative position of Lilith 28 January 2023 11:35 pm CET - Venus reigning as Mystery Babylon should be a requirement for a proper debasement;

    8:57 am - Saturn at the Ascendant, synchronized with Fortune at the Node;

    9:08 am - Venus at the Ascendant, with the Part of Fortune advanced to Ouranos - this is the critical time presumed for the initial explosive fiery portion of the cataclysm -

    << 27 January 2023 9:08 am CET / 3:08 am EST / 12:08 am PST >>;

    10 am - Vesta at the Ascendant, while Fortune is near Mars - this could be the X.6 prediction of 'Vesta sepulchral fire' without requiring a lunar aspect.

    The lunar conjunct subsequent to Chiron is with Ouranos 29 January 2023 4:37 am CET, again potentially relating to VI.70 for 'surpassing the Heavens.' The first part of VI.70 seems to indicate the Chiron solar trine of 4 December 2022 occurring
    the day after the Chiron lunar conjunct; the second portion appears to depict the later apocalyptic explosion as having noise and light surpassing The Heavens, with the cryptic Victor comment plausibly relating to the Russian-specified 8 December 2022
    prisoner exchange of Viktor Bout for Brittney Griner in the final line.

    The secondary phase of the Solar Grand Trine as Great Urn is the Mars solar trine 30 January 2023 2:19 am CET, ending its official aspects.

    January 27 is feast for Saint Gilduin (d. 1071), Canon of Dol in Brittany (IV.95).

    The 28th could be Toulouse via Saint Thomas Aquinas (IX.9).

    Beheaded Saint Sabinian of Troyes (d. 295) could be used for linking 29 January 2023 with the trembling Gaul of X.58.

    The Three Holy Hierarchs for 30 January could explain the Bible-reading of V.83 and Great Basil reclaimed of VI.78, yet that is also feast for Saint Armentarius (d. 451) a bishop of Pavia, in the Lombard region. Double meanings could apply for
    the Lombardy lines.

    La gent Lombarde fera si grande effroi
    A ceux de l'Aigle compris sous la Balance
    The Lombard folk will be made so greatly afraid
    By those included under the Balance for Eagal

    The Venusian Nadir in my Geneva vigil is nothing anyone could witness - naming myself as judicial astrologer confirmed the 17 November 2022 12:47 am CET chart synchronized with the US announcement of Republican House chamber majority was the
    subject; the debt limit ceiling being reached on 19 January 2023, feast for Lombard Saint Bassian, appeared to be inferred, since the extreme faction that had been included are viewed as unlikely to affirm the national credit without essentially
    extorting major changes that would not be otherwise granted.

    Reading the same lines for Saint Armentarius having a cataclysm coincide with his 30 January feast also makes sense, if translating the preposition starting line 2 as 'As' instead of 'By' (both are allowable): there is trepidation over the debt
    limit conflict circa 19 January 2023 due to a political group included 16 November 2022 (the 'By those' case); yet visceral terror could prevail when the Lombard folk themselves are included 'As those' under the different Solar Grand Trine Balance of 30
    January 2023.

    Les noirs du temple du lieu de Negrisilve
    Feront auberge et feu de Lombardie

    The dark ones of the Temple in the Black Forest place
    Will make for Lombardy both Tavern and Fire

    The Tavern precursor for VI.16 was the Colorado Springs nightclub shooting at 20 November 2022, feast of Lombard Saint Benignus. The dark ones of the Temple are the angels administering the Cup of Divine Wrath - this is an illumination
    confirming the Geneva LHC near the Black Forest as the source for the subsequent punishing Fire event, which is also scheduled for a date with a Lombard saint commemoration, now presumed as Armentarius for 30 January 2023. My translation adds the word '
    both' to suggest the event separation, although for clarity the angels with the sinister task would be concerned with the Fire event, probably as a sardonic response to the Tavern incident not of their making.

    The Trajan lamp of V.66 was martyred-by-burning Saint Nemesius from 19 December 2022, when found as IX.9 required at the end of a Vestal Reign; Nimes perishing by water could be a literal result of the flooding element, while the markets
    falling at Toulouse implies financial collapse. The Trajan Lamp having engraving with gold could regard the catastrophic fire of II.92.
    Thanks for the quote. I wonder when the band's end began to feel like a real possibility to the lads. With Brian Epstein's death?
    John said after Sgt Pepper it was a slow death, perhaps realizing the innuendo.

    Since they were no longer touring when Brian Epstein died, his purpose was questionable; he had given away most of the American merchandising rights for the asking, when having their images on everything was a potential lucrative outgrowth from the
    mania.

    With Paul especially, they wanted to branch out, into Apple Records' own stable of stars, and even retail with a boutique. But that allowed them to mentally evade the ticking clock on their own progression into non-existence.

    They had begun meditating, attempting to find inner solace without the band camaraderie and touring experiences, finding the purity of their craft on a rooftop in India.

    Losing Brian Epstein must have been a sad shock, but the real problem was what The Beatles itself was a format devised to honor Someone Else whose life events were incontrovertibly finite.

    The opening electric guitar phrase in the fanfare for the Lonely Hearts Club Band sounds like,

    'Baptizing-Man!-'

    When McCartney returned to the subject of Christ's Baptism by His Cousin John in the River Jordan with "Band On The Run," an opening guitar phrase resembles,

    'The Good Baptizer-Man'

    The two subliminal transcriptions depict the same event using different musical inventions, something that would have been overwrought for a Supergroup to sustain.

    The love story between John and Yoko is what defines the second-phase esoteric timing for the group.

    Counting from the debut album being released March 1963, their ceasing to tour and perform for live audiences at the end of August 1966 made an interval of forty-two months.

    John met Yoko at an arranged private early showing of her exhibit at the Indica Gallery in London on 8 November 1966; the final album release by the band was on 8 May 1970, three-and-a-half years to-the-day, or 1260 days as prophetically calculated.
    The Israelis regained Jerusalem in June 1967, another factor in the prophecy over which no single person had any real control.

    Prophet Daniel in the Babylonian Captivity foresaw the future rebuilding of the Temple, and devised a chronology into the Messianic Era, leaving a 'Missing Seventieth Week' as an End-Times interval of about seven years, for humanity to confirm the
    divine covenant, or face stern judgment.

    Revelation 11 has the latter half of the seven years depicted by 'two witnesses clothed in sackcloth': John and Yoko would create Bag Productions, wear matching white outfits, and staged an event writhing in a large burlap sack. By designating them
    as 'two olive trees' the symbol of Peace was invoked, in parallel with their planting of trees for the Peace Movement.

    Beyond her audio brand of conceptual art, there could be some foundational contributions to their own albums, such as minimalism with the White Album cover idea, and the Lennon-Ono-Harrison collaboration on "Revolution 9."

    The influence went both ways: the 'War Is Over' billboards commissioned by John and Yoko echoed a sentiment found in the reversed lead vocal from Paul McCartney circa 1966.

    Yoko Ono means Ocean Child, and John's father Alfred was a sailor; four characters in Revelation are respectively associated with the elemental forces of The Heavens, Earth, Fountains, and Oceans.

    Chuck Berry's reaction to Ono's vocal modulation during a Mike Douglas Show performance demonstrated the aesthetic clash in the audio field.
    Gaslighting prophetic fulfillment into ridicule is not righteousness. I pre-monitored the Capitol riot, expecting extreme violence from the 4 January 2021 lunar aspects with the Vesta-Neptune opposition, to the 6 January 2021 end of the long cycle
    for Saturn reigning; when it manifested as the disruption of letters in I.62, further confirming with lunar cycle information, a line there foretold the fire and flood as a karmic consequence, as the culmination of the Anaxagoric revolution mentioned in
    the seer's Preface. That is what the archives would show in this real world. I also anticipated the March 2020 Covid lockdown time for a major setback before the virus existed; and around 6 March 2020 I was posting that 25 May 2020 would have an event
    unleashing 'The Ire of Hannibal' - of course the George Floyd murder on Memorial Day made that a reality, but I was following a sequence of events, and pinpointed that day as feast for Saint Leo of Troyes.

    Experience has shown a conglomeration of indisputable precursors as recently observed renders the associated larger catastrophic event imminent - a simple logical reassessment is required, not confused capitulation back to blissful ignorance.

    The Venusian Reign from Pisces, second in January, has ended, although the Solar Grand Trine has not reached its secondary stage as the Great Urn.

    Venus next reaches the Nadir 29 January 2023 2:22 am CET [28 January 2023 8:22 pm EST / 5:22 pm PST], with Lilith reigning.

    Then Venus follows Saturn at the Ascendant 29 January 2023 9:06 am CET.

    The Lombardy date of 30 January might be the onset date, if proximity to the Venusian Reign and a further progressed Solar Grand Trine is indicated.

    The Ouranos lunar conjunct 29 January 2023 4:37 am CET puts the Moon where VI.70 line 3 suggests.

    Venus following Saturn at the Geneva Nadir during the Mars solar trine 30 January 2023 2:22 am CET is perhaps not merely a coincidence, but the significant synchronization for the cataclysmic onset: that moment has Fortune merged with Lilith (
    reigning from 2 degrees 24 minutes Leo). The Moon sets soon after, around 3 am CET.

    If the onset time is then, designating whatever conditions arrive before that as critical for this incident would not be correct, or plausibly succeed as a conjecture.

    The Great Urn of the Sun-Mars-Ceres Grand Trine spanning several degrees made it difficult to discern, yet it should provide major guidance towards the timing, and this is the most logical way: the final consummation of the Aquarian Sun in trine with
    Mars in Gemini, both at 9 degrees 52 minutes, will be sustained through the time Venus is at the Nadir for Geneva.

    The Mars solar trine is about two minutes of a degree from happening when Saturn reaches the Nadir 30 January 2023 1:51 am CET - the relative positions of Mars and the Sun first match at 2:19 am CET.

    So the Grand Trine has one of its 'walls' becoming technically official synchronized with Venus arriving at the Nadir (and definitely not the Ascendant) in Geneva for

    << 30 January 2023 2:22 am CET / 29 January 2023 8:22 pm EST / 5:22 pm PST >>
    The interview in Chicago 11 August 1966 was where John made his comment about not being able to keep the group going with new gimmicks; the transcript is online in two parts, notable excerpts below.

    http://www.beatlesinterviews.org/db1966.0811.beatles.html

    Q: "Do you think you're being crucified?"

    JOHN: (clearly and seriously) "No, I wouldn't say THAT at all!"

    (laughter from reporters)...

    GEORGE: "It's the same old wrong mess. They've just taken it the wrong way, and that's just the pity that... It's this misunderstanding which shouldn't be." ...

    Q: "What's the most enjoyable thing for you four about this adulation-- this almost 'Godhood on earth' that you've achieved?"

    JOHN: (looks away distastefully) "Don't say that."

    (laughter)

    PAUL: (pointing to the reporter) "It was him. He said it."

    JOHN: (to the other reporters) "Now, you all SAW that." ...

    Q: (to George) "What about you? What was your reaction to what he said, and the reaction TO what he said?"

    GEORGE: "Well, in the context that it was meant-- it was the fact that christianity is declining, and everybody knows about that, and that was the fact that was trying to be made."

    Q: (to George) "Do you agree with it?"

    GEORGE: "I do agree. I agree that it's on the wane." ...

    Q: "Can I have just one more question? I'd like to ask your reaction to the fact that at London Airport this morning, some of the girls were crying, 'John, not Jesus.'"

    JOHN: "Well you know, I don't take that seriously, either."

    PAUL: "They're taking it the wrong way like everyone else, you know."

    Q: "Are you unhappy about that?"

    JOHN: "No, you know-- It'll get straightened out, because... I mean, I could have stopped there and said, 'Now listen, that's wrong, what you're saying,' but I couldn't do that-- I had to come over here anyway and do all this, and try and straighten
    THIS out first. So, if it does get straightened out, it'll be straightened out for THEM." ...

    http://www.beatlesinterviews.org/db1966.0812.beatles.html

    Q: "Mr. Lennon, we've been hearing a great deal of interpretations of your comment regarding the Beatles and Jesus. Could you tell us what you really meant by that statement?"

    JOHN: "Uhh. I'll try and tell ya. I was sort of deploring the attitude that... I wasn't saying whatever they were saying I was saying, anyway. That's the main thing about it." ...

    Q: "John, are you familiar with-- that in the American press, a great many ministers have agreed with you in the full context of what you said, and that most of the concern and oversimplification of what you said came from what we call the 'Bible Belt,'
    quite notorious for christian attitude?"

    PAUL: "Yeah. The thing is that they seem to think that by saying that, you know, John's gettin' at them. But he isn't at all, you know. It's just a straight comment on something, which may be right and may be wrong, but he's gotta answer as he feels
    honestly, you know. And if they think that for him to say that is wrong then they don't believe in free speech, you know. And I thought everyone here did."

    Q: "The point is, by many thinking Americans, it was just that." ...

    GEORGE: "But they always write about the bad things much more than the good things, anyway. So that's why it got to this scale."

    Q: "It's always the 'superior' Americans that are more verbal."

    (laughter) ...

    JOHN: "I think that... My views are only from what I've read or observed of christianity and what it was, and what it has been, or what it could be-- it just seems to me to be shrinking. I'm not knocking it or saying it's bad. I'm just saying it seems
    to be shrinking and losing contact."

    PAUL: "And we all deplore the fact that it is, you know. That's the main point about it all."

    JOHN: "Nothing better seems to be replacing it, so we're not saying anything about that."

    PAUL: "And if you say something that you think may vaguely in a way be helpful, you know... because if it is on the decline in any way, then to say it's on the decline must be helpful, rather than destructive, you know."

    JOHN: "It's silly going on saying, 'Yes, it's all fine, and yeah yeah, we're all christians and we're all doing this' when we're all not doing it. You know, I just said what I thought." ...

    JOHN: "Although, I think Christ was what he was, and if anybody says anything great about him, I believe. But I'm not a practicing christian like I was brought up to be. But I don't have unchristian thoughts!"

    (laughter) ...

    JOHN: "Well, you know, I don't like sort of supposing that somebody like Jesus was alive now and pretending-- imagining what he'd do. But I mean, if he was Jesus and he held that he was the real Jesus that had the same views as before, well 'Eleanor
    Rigby' wouldn't mean much to him." ...

    GEORGE: "The thing is, if we do slip it doesn't matter. You know, I mean, so what-- we slip and so we're not popular anymore so we'll be us unpopular, won't we. You know, we'll be like we were before, maybe."

    JOHN: "And we can't invent a new gimmick to keep us going like people imagine we do." ...

    Q: "John, Your music has changed immensely since you first started out. Is this because you've become more professional, or is it that you're trying to show the public..."

    JOHN: "It's not trying, or being professional. It's just, you know, a progression."

    GEORGE: "It's trying to satisfy ourselves, in a way. But you know, that's why we try and do things better-- because we never get satisfied."

    JOHN: "It's only that, you know. It's not sitting 'round thinking, 'Next week we'll do so-and-so and we'll record like that.' It just sort of happens."

    *

    The Memphis police Scorpion unit stopped Tyre Nichols 7 January 2023, day of the Mercury solar conjunct associated with the Brasilia insurrection the following day in X.79 (Nichols died from his beating on 10 January). The first line invoked President
    Biden signing the Infrastructure Law into being 15 November 2021, so that the old roads could be refurbished; the second line sardonically states those roads could be traveled upon to reach Memphis stirred up, or incited. (A reference to the 4 April 1968
    assassination of Dr King in Memphis is not required, although 3 April 2022 was when the Ukrainian president first accused Russia of genocide.)

    Les vieux chemins seront tous embellis
    L'on passera a Memphis somentree
    Le grand Mercure d'Hercules fleur de lis
    Faisant trembler terre, mer et contree
    The old roads will all be embellished -
    One could travel upon them to Memphis incited:
    Great Mercury as Hercules' lies flower, relished -
    The trembling of land, sea and country thus invited

    It is unlikely the broadcast of the Memphis incident videos was the significance for the 30 January date; also Venus at the Nadir coinciding with the Mars solar trine was questionable for Saturn passing the Nadir to be termed Saturnin, more suggestive
    of an above-Ecliptic observation.

    Proceeding to the Descendant cases for 30 January 2023, there was a quirk noticed which could prove significant (using CET):

    6:53 pm - Saturn at Descendant (the ringed planet is depicted as ominous in IX.44, V.24, etc.);

    7:41 pm - Venus at Descendant - The falling of Venus is accompanied by the impression of an Upright Grand Trine with a Lunar Apex, reminiscent of the IV.31 post-Super-Moon condition observed for 16 July 2022 2:06 am CEST.

    The Moon at 5 degrees 9 minutes Gemini is between Mars and the skewed Midheaven point; Ceres is at 6 Degrees 54 minutes Libra; and the Vertex has slipped between Pluto and the Sun at 4 degrees 18 minutes Aquarius. This essentially briefly rejuvenates
    the Sun-Mars-Ceres Great Urn configuration by keeping slow Ceres, while replacing Mars with the approaching Moon, and substituting the swift-moving Vertex for the solar position.

    That unexpected discovery renders the critical time as -

    << 30 January 2023 7:41 pm CET / 1:41 pm EST / 10:41 am PST >>

    The reinvigorated Great Urn of Moon-Ceres-Vertex is extremely transitory, particularly with its Upright orientation.

    The Vertex reaches the Sun around 8 pm CET, with the Triangle still appearing vertically-oriented; the Moon reaches Midheaven about ten minutes later.

    Neptune follows Venus at the Descendant 9:22 pm CET, with lunar non-compliance for any associated perplexity, the Moon at six degrees, after a sextile aspect with Jupiter, nearing the Ceres lunar trine (Ceres and Jupiter roughly being in opposition).
    The 2 November 2022 7:38 am CET (II.52, X.28) and 10 January 2023 2:52 am CET (III.3) cases were sufficient to explain the Corinth-Ephesus lines as signposts using judicial astrology.

    Then Vesta descends 9:37 pm CET, perhaps marking the 'sepulchral fire' stage for X.6 - but if not then in that way, some other way sometime soon: the late January 2023 agitation of Memphis, Tennessee, makes it clear the fulfillments for the cataclysmic
    precursors are currently transpiring.

    Memphis was included on the US tour schedule in late 1966, with a brief interview where John Lennon began to mention the Vietnam War, commenting only a monk could say nothing, then apologized to monks. Lennon could not be completely forthcoming in how
    their music related to Jesus specifically, that their musical progression was actually a thematic regression, so he resorted to claiming The Beatles was some generic entity that was captivating like television, a tactic which was not so persuasive.

    What George Harrison referred to as a misunderstanding that should never have been remains the prevalent consensus, mistaking humble collective expressions of faith for sacrilegious indulgences of ego.

    The morning of 31 January 2023 presents a succession of potentially significant configurations for Geneva.

    When Dawn arrives 8:05 am CET, Fortune at 10 degrees 42 minutes Libra is in a position to correct for lagging Ceres in the Solar Grand Trine with Mars; then at 8:06 am CET, Fortune jumps to the lunar position around 11.5 degrees Gemini, within a Mars-
    Moon-Fortune close grouping.

    Saturn is next to rise at 8:42 am CET, attended by a transitory Grand Trine around sixteen degrees in the earth signs, consisting of Mercury-Ouranos-Vertex.

    Venus ascends above the horizon 9:04 am CET - however at 9:10 am CET the Ascendant at 8 degrees 25 minutes Pisces is in a completely conceptual Grand Trine with the South Node at 8 degrees 35 minutes Scorpio, and the Part of Fortune at 9 degrees 14
    minutes Cancer.

    Thus the elusive Cup for Mystery Babylon may not materially exist, in a betrayal facilitated by the celestial vestiges of the Great Solar Urn, for a critical time of -

    << 31 January 9:10 am CET / 3:10 am EST / 12:10 am PST >>

    The pairing of Neptune and Vesta has its risings at 9:42 am and 9:48 am CET respectively, with a rectangle forming that becomes complete with the latter: Vesta-Ascendant close to 27 degrees Pisces, sextile Pluto at 28 degrees 38 minutes Capricorn, trine
    the Vertex at 28 degrees 48 minutes Virgo, sextile Fortune at 28 degrees Cancer. The coffin-like Oblong Box form plausibly matches the Vesta sepulchral fire line from X.6.

    Prophecy offers a means of processing news headlines into future postulations: the agitation of Memphis by the now-infamous beating during the Great Mercury solar conjunction of 7 January 2023 being video-broadcast late January, shortly prior to the date
    of the 30th highlighted by the hagiology, appears a made-to-order late-stage precursor for the double cataclysm.

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    Is A Miraculous Conception"

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  • From Curtis Eagal@21:1/5 to Curtis Eagal on Thu Feb 23 08:37:25 2023
    [continued from previous message]

    The clues in VI.82 regarding a Lourdes bludgeon, and the Seventh Vessel Chalice, could be associating Saint Lupercus with the 1 March feast, as a bishop martyred in 300, venerated at Tarbes, near Lourdes.

    March Second has a Lombard association, since it is feast for about four hundred faithful Martyrs of Campania, killed by pagan Lombards circa 579.

    The widow and virgin of VIII.80 could be the same person. Saint Cunegundes with a 3 March feast born in 975 was daughter of Count Sigfrid of Luxembourg; she vowed chastity before marrying Henry II, Duke of Bavaria; she was coronated at Paderborn,
    Germany, in 1002, and became Holy Roman Empress in 1014. An accusation of adultery was answered by treading on flaming irons. Henry died in 1024, leaving little to his charitable widow, who had built a monastery that had been dedicated on the day her
    husband would later die - on that date in 1025, after her first year as a widow, she entered the Benedictine monastery for nuns, and died there fifteen years later in 1040.

    There is a Neptunian Grand Trine with Fortune and the Ascendant 2 March 2023 12:47 am CET: during that time the Moon is less than a degree from conjoining Pallas, which is less than a quarter-degree off a solar trine - the dual lunar and Neptunian
    preoccupations could explain the perplexity for Corinth and Ephesus from III.3.

    Vesta is also involved in a Grand Trine with Fortune and the Ascendant 2 March 2023 2:09 am CET (X.6 timing), simultaneous with the Solar-Lunar trine; the Pallas lunar conjunction occurs less than half an hour later at 2:31 am CET. Venus and Jupiter
    conjoin later that morning around 7 am CET.

    The entry of Saturn into Pisces 7 March 2023 to initiate its own reign does not appear described as Saturnin, falling instead under the schedule from I.54.

    Two revolts done as wicked Scythe-bearer exclusive,
    Through reign and cycles accomplishing transformation;
    The movable sign by its placement so intrusive
    To the two equals of similar inclination

    {I.54}

    The movable sign appears to be Libra, yet by describing its placement being intrusive to the two revolts attributed to Saturn it suggests two things: during the primary revolt on 6 January 2021, as I.62 states the Moon had not yet completed its course in
    Libra (last aspect Venusian sextile) - so a reprise of lunar Libra for the second revolt is likely; and because the projected 1 March 2023 date features a Ceres Reign in Libra, the cataclysm may be depicted as an intervening event proving only meddlesome
    to the momentum for political disruption, as the change appears accomplished with the second revolt in any case.

    The theme of V.18 could extend into the aftermath, with line 2 indicating the Saturnin-Lunar Grand Trine with the Vertex 10 March 2023 11:41 pm CET - Saturn is then only 23 minutes of a degree into Pisces; Jupiter is joined by Vesta and Chiron in a close
    grouping around 14 degrees Aries.

    Celebrera son vitrix l'hecatombe

    Its Vertex version as the Sacrifice will be celebrated

    This combines the unlikely coincidences of the Vertex involvement, and the seemingly celebratory Vesta-Jupiter-Chiron group.

    For the US Capitol the equivalent 5:41 pm EST timing has the Moon at 29 degrees 14 minutes Libra, nearing its final aspect for the course, a Pluto square 6:36 pm EST at 29 degrees 44 minutes in their respective signs. This could be the lunar Libran
    chronology insinuated by I.54 for the second Scythe-bearer revolt (i.e., coup).

    Reading certain lines as providing establishing details for unmentioned celestial configurations may yield accurate results where a more straightforward approach could be expected to fail.

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  • From Curtis Eagal@21:1/5 to Curtis Eagal on Mon Feb 27 14:14:45 2023
    [continued from previous message]

    Some of the Saturnin Grand Trine instances appear identified by extraneous details, which seems an effective subtext method due to their infrequency. There is no fabrication in examining the current judicial astrology against the cataclysmic prophetic
    lines, discarding false presumptions for more plausible interpretations. The fatality total from the Turkey-Syria border sibling quakes has reached an immense number, the 6 February date coinciding with the feast for two canonized nephews of Saint
    Patrick; this fulfilled line 3 of II.92, occurring after the final line was associated in real-time with the early January 2023 House Speakership vote debacle, against the 1 January feast for Saint Telemachus who opposed gladiator contests.

    Fire color of gold from terrestrial view -
    Struck with the High-Born, marvelous celestial feat;
    Massive human murder, taken from the Great's Nephew;
    Deaths as spectacles, the conceited one escapes defeat

    {II.92}

    The elusive solution to the High-Born hint should be that one instance of the Saturnin Grand Trine would be attended by that as a distinguishing feature - and this should be the conjunction of Venus as Mystery Babylon, miserable daughter debased by
    joining her disapproving omnipotent father Jupiter, as her pledging the ill-fated vow of VIII.32, 2 March 2023 around 7 am CET.

    ...Paternal love vexed,
    Cupbearer to falsify, Chalice tried

    {VI.89}

    The previous portion of that quatrain relates to the recent sibling quakes in a grisly fashion. There is a Saturnin Grand Trine with the Moon and Midheaven 1 March 2023 3:48 am CET, at Geneva Moonset, as the falsifying Cupbearer; the same day at 10:30
    pm CET there is another Saturnin Grand Trine with Fortune and the Ascendant - this becomes a 'marvelous case' with the concurrent doubling Grand Trine of The Sun and Moon (as in V.66) with the East Point. Venus in the latter case is about a third of a
    degree from conjoining Jupiter. So the critical time would be -

    << 1 March 2023 10:30 pm CET / 4:30 pm EST / 1:30 pm PST >>

    The Ceres Reign commences 24 February 2023 6:24 pm CET, when Venus progresses beyond their 5-degree 23-minute opposition location, as Ceres continues in retrograde; Mercury entering Pisces 2 March 2023 11:52 pm CET ends the reign of Ceres, which is
    alone in Libra. The Ceres Reign could be the time 'Under The Balance' from V.42, with 'those included' again inferring the fateful Saturnin Grand Trine.

    The clues in VI.82 regarding a Lourdes bludgeon, and the Seventh Vessel Chalice, could be associating Saint Lupercus with the 1 March feast, as a bishop martyred in 300, venerated at Tarbes, near Lourdes.

    March Second has a Lombard association, since it is feast for about four hundred faithful Martyrs of Campania, killed by pagan Lombards circa 579.

    The widow and virgin of VIII.80 could be the same person. Saint Cunegundes with a 3 March feast born in 975 was daughter of Count Sigfrid of Luxembourg; she vowed chastity before marrying Henry II, Duke of Bavaria; she was coronated at Paderborn,
    Germany, in 1002, and became Holy Roman Empress in 1014. An accusation of adultery was answered by treading on flaming irons. Henry died in 1024, leaving little to his charitable widow, who had built a monastery that had been dedicated on the day her
    husband would later die - on that date in 1025, after her first year as a widow, she entered the Benedictine monastery for nuns, and died there fifteen years later in 1040.

    There is a Neptunian Grand Trine with Fortune and the Ascendant 2 March 2023 12:47 am CET: during that time the Moon is less than a degree from conjoining Pallas, which is less than a quarter-degree off a solar trine - the dual lunar and Neptunian
    preoccupations could explain the perplexity for Corinth and Ephesus from III.3.

    Vesta is also involved in a Grand Trine with Fortune and the Ascendant 2 March 2023 2:09 am CET (X.6 timing), simultaneous with the Solar-Lunar trine; the Pallas lunar conjunction occurs less than half an hour later at 2:31 am CET. Venus and Jupiter
    conjoin later that morning around 7 am CET.

    The entry of Saturn into Pisces 7 March 2023 to initiate its own reign does not appear described as Saturnin, falling instead under the schedule from I.54.

    Two revolts done as wicked Scythe-bearer exclusive,
    Through reign and cycles accomplishing transformation;
    The movable sign by its placement so intrusive
    To the two equals of similar inclination

    {I.54}

    The movable sign appears to be Libra, yet by describing its placement being intrusive to the two revolts attributed to Saturn it suggests two things: during the primary revolt on 6 January 2021, as I.62 states the Moon had not yet completed its course
    in Libra (last aspect Venusian sextile) - so a reprise of lunar Libra for the second revolt is likely; and because the projected 1 March 2023 date features a Ceres Reign in Libra, the cataclysm may be depicted as an intervening event proving only
    meddlesome to the momentum for political disruption, as the change appears accomplished with the second revolt in any case.

    The theme of V.18 could extend into the aftermath, with line 2 indicating the Saturnin-Lunar Grand Trine with the Vertex 10 March 2023 11:41 pm CET - Saturn is then only 23 minutes of a degree into Pisces; Jupiter is joined by Vesta and Chiron in a
    close grouping around 14 degrees Aries.

    Celebrera son vitrix l'hecatombe

    Its Vertex version as the Sacrifice will be celebrated

    This combines the unlikely coincidences of the Vertex involvement, and the seemingly celebratory Vesta-Jupiter-Chiron group.

    For the US Capitol the equivalent 5:41 pm EST timing has the Moon at 29 degrees 14 minutes Libra, nearing its final aspect for the course, a Pluto square 6:36 pm EST at 29 degrees 44 minutes in their respective signs. This could be the lunar Libran
    chronology insinuated by I.54 for the second Scythe-bearer revolt (i.e., coup).

    Reading certain lines as providing establishing details for unmentioned celestial configurations may yield accurate results where a more straightforward approach could be expected to fail.

    Obviously the discovery of compliant Grand Trines is too elegant a solution to be discarded, although experience has made me reluctant to ever declare comprehension of the seer's intentions; if focusing on the few recent months has demonstrated a
    succession of confluences with actual circumstances for real-world events as foretold, imagine such fulfillments occurring over a twenty-year-plus era without public acknowledgment, so this is only the latest phase demonstrating itself as genuine.

    The 30 January 2023 date derived from the greatest Bible reader of V.83 and Great Basil reclaimed VI.78 for the feast of Three Holy Hierarchs was not very consequential for the US - however 1 February 2023 was a day for an extremely powerful European
    thunderstorm event, with two tornadoes afflicting northern Germany: the second cyclone was rated an F2 based on observed destruction to a pine forest, mowing down trees, stripping their limbs, flinging trunks into nearby fields. Although this was far
    north of the ominous Black Forest, the implication of the central cataclysm being foreshadowed by Nature's Fury for the region is clear.

    The sequencing for the two post-cataclysmic incidents, the Miracle and papal ambush, seems hinted without much ambiguity.

    For the Rhodes of V.16, neo-martyr Saint Niketas should prove the solution: born in 1716 to a governor father, Niketas' family had a Turkish association, there was an Islamic conversion, he was renamed Mehmet, and they moved to Rhodes; at 14 Mehmet
    discovered his Christian former identity, and embraced the faith; ultimately he was tortured for ten days to induce a re-conversion, then beheaded 21 June 1732, at age seventeen.

    Using Garabandal coordinates 20 June 2023 had two astrological quirks: at 12:09 pm CEST a Reinforced Grand Trine, where Vesta at Midheaven was in mutual trine with a Ceres-Fortune merger, and a Pluto-Vertex union; then at 4:53 pm CEST a 'Star-Of-David'
    Double Inverse Grand Trine Set consisting of the Moon at an unmoored chart Apex in a Grand Trine with Fortune and Neptune, juxtaposed against an Inverted Grand Trine with Pluto as the Fulcrum near the Nadir, in mutual trine with Ceres and Vesta. The
    latter time would be when the local witness to the Miracle may first occur.

    The chronology of VII.5 complies, with Saint Raynerius of Pisa of 17 June, then the 20 June anniversary of the papal army suppressing civilian revolt in Perugia.

    The papal ambush occurs after the terror according to V.22, where Parma suggests Blessed John of Parma for 22 May, matching the quatrain enumeration; the two reds making cheer together would be the Mars in Leo square Jupiter (Giant Red Spot) in Taurus
    aspect, both at 1 degree 28 minutes 23 May 2023 7:08 am CEST. Vienne of IX.70 could be for Saint Desiderius with 23 May feast, with the Latin cantons as the ambushing squadrons.

    So the trembling Warning event at 1 March 2023 is followed by the US second coup threat to the Biden administration (further theories omitted here), perhaps culminating in mid-April upheaval; the papal ambush of Fatima's Third Secret seems timed at 23
    May 2023; and the Miracle does not seem witnessed at Garabandal until 20 June 2023.

    The Saturn Reign should reveal its karmic replay of the Capitol riot conditions from 10 March 2023; slow-moving Pluto entering Aquarius will limit the 25 March 2023 Mars reign to a very short interval, yet that seems pivotal in the US political upheaval
    scenario, the 22 March date for Saint Paul of Narbonne figuring in IX.64 (where no resistance can be made) and III.92. The fascism consummates its full betrayal of the democratic ideal the following year, using V.23 to obtain the 6 April 2024 bucket
    configuration featuring Mars at one end - the prophecy then has the US ceasing to be sovereign as the Young Empire, transforming into a subservient Brother or Satellite Nation.

    The Miracle is not merely an ectoplasmic spectacle, becoming dislodged to act as Henoch's Sword, driving the wicked into the Abyss that opens in both dimensions, before the chasm closes over them. The first part of V.42 alludes to the timing for that
    fateful activation (Mars ominously at 15 degrees, projected with yet another Grand Trine), while seeming to discuss the historic 1495 invasion by Charles VIII causing the Savoyards to retreat to Turin.

    From August 2023 there may be US conflict with Iran in delayed retaliation, reaching a notable milestone in late October 2023, foretold in IV.95 and IX.55, when Mars and Mercury will oppose Jupiter and the Moon.

    The Chastisement is not conditional if summarized in VI.35, and deduced for the upcoming instance when Mars and Jupiter will conjoin with the South Node, as the time for a solar coronal mass ejection aimed towards the Great Plains region as its primary
    target.

    While John Lennon was receiving backstage tips on playing the harmonica from Delbert McClintock who had performed on Bruce Channel's record, the young girl visionaries at Garabandal were enduring The Night Of Screams, reacting with horror to their Marian
    vision of the future Chastisement, when heat would become so intense people would rush to the ocean en masse for relief, only to find it scalding hot.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Curtis Eagal@21:1/5 to Curtis Eagal on Wed Mar 1 15:18:13 2023
    [continued from previous message]

    So Vienne itself indicates a Saturnin Grand Trine that does not equate to the apocalyptic hail date: in the next quatrain, both Lyons and Vienne have been re-encoded - for 2017 with a different Lyons reference (martyrs 2 June) adjacent to the feast
    of Corpus Christi calculated in 2017 at 3 June (having the 12 August 2017 Charlottesville pro-Confederate statue rally as the first line backdrop, 'sharp weapons hidden under flaming torches'), and another 2023 usage for Vienne (in late May).

    Some of the Saturnin Grand Trine instances appear identified by extraneous details, which seems an effective subtext method due to their infrequency. There is no fabrication in examining the current judicial astrology against the cataclysmic
    prophetic lines, discarding false presumptions for more plausible interpretations. The fatality total from the Turkey-Syria border sibling quakes has reached an immense number, the 6 February date coinciding with the feast for two canonized nephews of
    Saint Patrick; this fulfilled line 3 of II.92, occurring after the final line was associated in real-time with the early January 2023 House Speakership vote debacle, against the 1 January feast for Saint Telemachus who opposed gladiator contests.

    Fire color of gold from terrestrial view -
    Struck with the High-Born, marvelous celestial feat;
    Massive human murder, taken from the Great's Nephew;
    Deaths as spectacles, the conceited one escapes defeat

    {II.92}

    The elusive solution to the High-Born hint should be that one instance of the Saturnin Grand Trine would be attended by that as a distinguishing feature - and this should be the conjunction of Venus as Mystery Babylon, miserable daughter debased by
    joining her disapproving omnipotent father Jupiter, as her pledging the ill-fated vow of VIII.32, 2 March 2023 around 7 am CET.

    ...Paternal love vexed,
    Cupbearer to falsify, Chalice tried

    {VI.89}

    The previous portion of that quatrain relates to the recent sibling quakes in a grisly fashion. There is a Saturnin Grand Trine with the Moon and Midheaven 1 March 2023 3:48 am CET, at Geneva Moonset, as the falsifying Cupbearer; the same day at 10:
    30 pm CET there is another Saturnin Grand Trine with Fortune and the Ascendant - this becomes a 'marvelous case' with the concurrent doubling Grand Trine of The Sun and Moon (as in V.66) with the East Point. Venus in the latter case is about a third of a
    degree from conjoining Jupiter. So the critical time would be -

    << 1 March 2023 10:30 pm CET / 4:30 pm EST / 1:30 pm PST >>

    The Ceres Reign commences 24 February 2023 6:24 pm CET, when Venus progresses beyond their 5-degree 23-minute opposition location, as Ceres continues in retrograde; Mercury entering Pisces 2 March 2023 11:52 pm CET ends the reign of Ceres, which is
    alone in Libra. The Ceres Reign could be the time 'Under The Balance' from V.42, with 'those included' again inferring the fateful Saturnin Grand Trine.

    The clues in VI.82 regarding a Lourdes bludgeon, and the Seventh Vessel Chalice, could be associating Saint Lupercus with the 1 March feast, as a bishop martyred in 300, venerated at Tarbes, near Lourdes.

    March Second has a Lombard association, since it is feast for about four hundred faithful Martyrs of Campania, killed by pagan Lombards circa 579.

    The widow and virgin of VIII.80 could be the same person. Saint Cunegundes with a 3 March feast born in 975 was daughter of Count Sigfrid of Luxembourg; she vowed chastity before marrying Henry II, Duke of Bavaria; she was coronated at Paderborn,
    Germany, in 1002, and became Holy Roman Empress in 1014. An accusation of adultery was answered by treading on flaming irons. Henry died in 1024, leaving little to his charitable widow, who had built a monastery that had been dedicated on the day her
    husband would later die - on that date in 1025, after her first year as a widow, she entered the Benedictine monastery for nuns, and died there fifteen years later in 1040.

    There is a Neptunian Grand Trine with Fortune and the Ascendant 2 March 2023 12:47 am CET: during that time the Moon is less than a degree from conjoining Pallas, which is less than a quarter-degree off a solar trine - the dual lunar and Neptunian
    preoccupations could explain the perplexity for Corinth and Ephesus from III.3.

    Vesta is also involved in a Grand Trine with Fortune and the Ascendant 2 March 2023 2:09 am CET (X.6 timing), simultaneous with the Solar-Lunar trine; the Pallas lunar conjunction occurs less than half an hour later at 2:31 am CET. Venus and Jupiter
    conjoin later that morning around 7 am CET.

    The entry of Saturn into Pisces 7 March 2023 to initiate its own reign does not appear described as Saturnin, falling instead under the schedule from I.54.

    Two revolts done as wicked Scythe-bearer exclusive,
    Through reign and cycles accomplishing transformation;
    The movable sign by its placement so intrusive
    To the two equals of similar inclination

    {I.54}

    The movable sign appears to be Libra, yet by describing its placement being intrusive to the two revolts attributed to Saturn it suggests two things: during the primary revolt on 6 January 2021, as I.62 states the Moon had not yet completed its
    course in Libra (last aspect Venusian sextile) - so a reprise of lunar Libra for the second revolt is likely; and because the projected 1 March 2023 date features a Ceres Reign in Libra, the cataclysm may be depicted as an intervening event proving only
    meddlesome to the momentum for political disruption, as the change appears accomplished with the second revolt in any case.

    The theme of V.18 could extend into the aftermath, with line 2 indicating the Saturnin-Lunar Grand Trine with the Vertex 10 March 2023 11:41 pm CET - Saturn is then only 23 minutes of a degree into Pisces; Jupiter is joined by Vesta and Chiron in a
    close grouping around 14 degrees Aries.

    Celebrera son vitrix l'hecatombe

    Its Vertex version as the Sacrifice will be celebrated

    This combines the unlikely coincidences of the Vertex involvement, and the seemingly celebratory Vesta-Jupiter-Chiron group.

    For the US Capitol the equivalent 5:41 pm EST timing has the Moon at 29 degrees 14 minutes Libra, nearing its final aspect for the course, a Pluto square 6:36 pm EST at 29 degrees 44 minutes in their respective signs. This could be the lunar Libran
    chronology insinuated by I.54 for the second Scythe-bearer revolt (i.e., coup).

    Reading certain lines as providing establishing details for unmentioned celestial configurations may yield accurate results where a more straightforward approach could be expected to fail.
    Obviously the discovery of compliant Grand Trines is too elegant a solution to be discarded, although experience has made me reluctant to ever declare comprehension of the seer's intentions; if focusing on the few recent months has demonstrated a
    succession of confluences with actual circumstances for real-world events as foretold, imagine such fulfillments occurring over a twenty-year-plus era without public acknowledgment, so this is only the latest phase demonstrating itself as genuine.

    The 30 January 2023 date derived from the greatest Bible reader of V.83 and Great Basil reclaimed VI.78 for the feast of Three Holy Hierarchs was not very consequential for the US - however 1 February 2023 was a day for an extremely powerful European
    thunderstorm event, with two tornadoes afflicting northern Germany: the second cyclone was rated an F2 based on observed destruction to a pine forest, mowing down trees, stripping their limbs, flinging trunks into nearby fields. Although this was far
    north of the ominous Black Forest, the implication of the central cataclysm being foreshadowed by Nature's Fury for the region is clear.

    The sequencing for the two post-cataclysmic incidents, the Miracle and papal ambush, seems hinted without much ambiguity.

    For the Rhodes of V.16, neo-martyr Saint Niketas should prove the solution: born in 1716 to a governor father, Niketas' family had a Turkish association, there was an Islamic conversion, he was renamed Mehmet, and they moved to Rhodes; at 14 Mehmet
    discovered his Christian former identity, and embraced the faith; ultimately he was tortured for ten days to induce a re-conversion, then beheaded 21 June 1732, at age seventeen.

    Using Garabandal coordinates 20 June 2023 had two astrological quirks: at 12:09 pm CEST a Reinforced Grand Trine, where Vesta at Midheaven was in mutual trine with a Ceres-Fortune merger, and a Pluto-Vertex union; then at 4:53 pm CEST a 'Star-Of-David'
    Double Inverse Grand Trine Set consisting of the Moon at an unmoored chart Apex in a Grand Trine with Fortune and Neptune, juxtaposed against an Inverted Grand Trine with Pluto as the Fulcrum near the Nadir, in mutual trine with Ceres and Vesta. The
    latter time would be when the local witness to the Miracle may first occur.

    The chronology of VII.5 complies, with Saint Raynerius of Pisa of 17 June, then the 20 June anniversary of the papal army suppressing civilian revolt in Perugia.

    The papal ambush occurs after the terror according to V.22, where Parma suggests Blessed John of Parma for 22 May, matching the quatrain enumeration; the two reds making cheer together would be the Mars in Leo square Jupiter (Giant Red Spot) in Taurus
    aspect, both at 1 degree 28 minutes 23 May 2023 7:08 am CEST. Vienne of IX.70 could be for Saint Desiderius with 23 May feast, with the Latin cantons as the ambushing squadrons.

    So the trembling Warning event at 1 March 2023 is followed by the US second coup threat to the Biden administration (further theories omitted here), perhaps culminating in mid-April upheaval; the papal ambush of Fatima's Third Secret seems timed at 23
    May 2023; and the Miracle does not seem witnessed at Garabandal until 20 June 2023.

    The Saturn Reign should reveal its karmic replay of the Capitol riot conditions from 10 March 2023; slow-moving Pluto entering Aquarius will limit the 25 March 2023 Mars reign to a very short interval, yet that seems pivotal in the US political
    upheaval scenario, the 22 March date for Saint Paul of Narbonne figuring in IX.64 (where no resistance can be made) and III.92. The fascism consummates its full betrayal of the democratic ideal the following year, using V.23 to obtain the 6 April 2024
    bucket configuration featuring Mars at one end - the prophecy then has the US ceasing to be sovereign as the Young Empire, transforming into a subservient Brother or Satellite Nation.

    The Miracle is not merely an ectoplasmic spectacle, becoming dislodged to act as Henoch's Sword, driving the wicked into the Abyss that opens in both dimensions, before the chasm closes over them. The first part of V.42 alludes to the timing for that
    fateful activation (Mars ominously at 15 degrees, projected with yet another Grand Trine), while seeming to discuss the historic 1495 invasion by Charles VIII causing the Savoyards to retreat to Turin.

    From August 2023 there may be US conflict with Iran in delayed retaliation, reaching a notable milestone in late October 2023, foretold in IV.95 and IX.55, when Mars and Mercury will oppose Jupiter and the Moon.

    The Chastisement is not conditional if summarized in VI.35, and deduced for the upcoming instance when Mars and Jupiter will conjoin with the South Node, as the time for a solar coronal mass ejection aimed towards the Great Plains region as its primary
    target.

    While John Lennon was receiving backstage tips on playing the harmonica from Delbert McClintock who had performed on Bruce Channel's record, the young girl visionaries at Garabandal were enduring The Night Of Screams, reacting with horror to their
    Marian vision of the future Chastisement, when heat would become so intense people would rush to the ocean en masse for relief, only to find it scalding hot.

    The dates derived from judicial astrology are the apparent subject of several lines without other associated happenings.

    The sense of IX.44 regarding Saturn could merely reinforce the notion of Vienne as a precursor time-marker for the impending cataclysm, since the 22 February 2023 10:47 am CET Grand Trine featured Saturn with the Sun as the golden factor.

    Saturn from gold will affect transition to sword

    It is not a single condition being indicated, but a succession of isolated incidents described with relevant associated data.

    The 1 March 2023 date could thus be the transitional falsifying Cupbearer from VI.89, with two Grand Trines involving Saturn, then close to Mercury: 3:48 am CET with the Moon and Midheaven; and 10:30 pm CET with Fortune and the Ascendant - a concurrent
    Grand Trine consisting of the Sun-Moon-East Point was ominous, while the Solar-Lunar trine is not yet official.

    The suggested further Grand Trines not involving Saturn on 2 March 2023 could constitute the trying of the subsequent Chalice from VI.89: 12:47 am CET, Neptune-Fortune-Ascendant Grand Trine specified as Corinth, contrasted with lunar Ephesus as the Moon
    approaches near-simultaneous Pallas conjunct and solar trine, for the perplexity of III.3.

    The 2 March 2023 2:09 am CET Vesta-Fortune-Ascendant Grand Trine is perfectly synchronized with the trine between the Cancer Moon and Piscean Sun at 11 degrees 10 minutes - this satisfies the X.6 Vesta sepulchral fire line, while also presenting the V.66
    condition of the 'Sol et Lune' correspondence, which should be the post-Saturnin-sign culmination resulting in the physical fiery onset.

    << 2 March 2023 2:09 am CET / 1 March 2023 8:09 pm EST / 5:09 pm PST >>

    The Moon conjoins Pallas about twenty minutes later, suggesting the palace line from II.66 had a double-meaning to include the Brasilia insurrection, where the crowd was apprehended after trashing the presidential palace. Venus being near Jupiter
    conjunct, occurring 2 March 2023 6:22 am CET (at 12 degrees 8 minutes Aries), provides the High-Born element for II.92. The Saturnin device seems employed specifically for this event, so that the presence of the Grand Trines involving Saturn are pivotal
    for timing, however without providing the activating Chalice dispensing Divine Fury. Mercury enters Pisces 2 March 2023 11:52 pm CET, ending the Ceres Reign occurring 'Under The Balance' of Libra for V.42. The Saturnin Grand Trine of 10 March 2023
    incorporating the Vertex seems an aftermath manifestation foretold in V.18.

    Conchita alone had Marian information about the Warning or Preparation event in 1965, years after the major phenomenon had ended, providing the hint it would be 'like two stars colliding' - the impending union of Venus and Jupiter could be the meaning,
    encoded in II.92 as a meeting of the 'High-Borns.'

    The End-Of-Age hints provided by Jesus were cryptic, with the disciples only receiving a clearer scenario in Saint John's gospel version of the Last Supper, where Christ described some future personage who would assume dual tasks of explaining what would
    be transpiring short-term, while also being honest about things being heard: the prophetic potentiality would emerge through the assistance of an intervening figure in the apocalyptic dream of Henoch; and the concept of authentically evaluating meanings
    from sounds speaks to the process of deciphering audio recordings with subliminal intentions, which would have been difficult to convey to an ancient person.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Curtis Eagal@21:1/5 to Curtis Eagal on Fri Mar 3 10:56:18 2023
    [continued from previous message]

    So Vienne itself indicates a Saturnin Grand Trine that does not equate to the apocalyptic hail date: in the next quatrain, both Lyons and Vienne have been re-encoded - for 2017 with a different Lyons reference (martyrs 2 June) adjacent to the feast
    of Corpus Christi calculated in 2017 at 3 June (having the 12 August 2017 Charlottesville pro-Confederate statue rally as the first line backdrop, 'sharp weapons hidden under flaming torches'), and another 2023 usage for Vienne (in late May).

    Some of the Saturnin Grand Trine instances appear identified by extraneous details, which seems an effective subtext method due to their infrequency. There is no fabrication in examining the current judicial astrology against the cataclysmic
    prophetic lines, discarding false presumptions for more plausible interpretations. The fatality total from the Turkey-Syria border sibling quakes has reached an immense number, the 6 February date coinciding with the feast for two canonized nephews of
    Saint Patrick; this fulfilled line 3 of II.92, occurring after the final line was associated in real-time with the early January 2023 House Speakership vote debacle, against the 1 January feast for Saint Telemachus who opposed gladiator contests.

    Fire color of gold from terrestrial view -
    Struck with the High-Born, marvelous celestial feat;
    Massive human murder, taken from the Great's Nephew;
    Deaths as spectacles, the conceited one escapes defeat

    {II.92}

    The elusive solution to the High-Born hint should be that one instance of the Saturnin Grand Trine would be attended by that as a distinguishing feature - and this should be the conjunction of Venus as Mystery Babylon, miserable daughter debased by
    joining her disapproving omnipotent father Jupiter, as her pledging the ill-fated vow of VIII.32, 2 March 2023 around 7 am CET.

    ...Paternal love vexed,
    Cupbearer to falsify, Chalice tried

    {VI.89}

    The previous portion of that quatrain relates to the recent sibling quakes in a grisly fashion. There is a Saturnin Grand Trine with the Moon and Midheaven 1 March 2023 3:48 am CET, at Geneva Moonset, as the falsifying Cupbearer; the same day at 10:
    30 pm CET there is another Saturnin Grand Trine with Fortune and the Ascendant - this becomes a 'marvelous case' with the concurrent doubling Grand Trine of The Sun and Moon (as in V.66) with the East Point. Venus in the latter case is about a third of a
    degree from conjoining Jupiter. So the critical time would be -

    << 1 March 2023 10:30 pm CET / 4:30 pm EST / 1:30 pm PST >>

    The Ceres Reign commences 24 February 2023 6:24 pm CET, when Venus progresses beyond their 5-degree 23-minute opposition location, as Ceres continues in retrograde; Mercury entering Pisces 2 March 2023 11:52 pm CET ends the reign of Ceres, which is
    alone in Libra. The Ceres Reign could be the time 'Under The Balance' from V.42, with 'those included' again inferring the fateful Saturnin Grand Trine.

    The clues in VI.82 regarding a Lourdes bludgeon, and the Seventh Vessel Chalice, could be associating Saint Lupercus with the 1 March feast, as a bishop martyred in 300, venerated at Tarbes, near Lourdes.

    March Second has a Lombard association, since it is feast for about four hundred faithful Martyrs of Campania, killed by pagan Lombards circa 579.

    The widow and virgin of VIII.80 could be the same person. Saint Cunegundes with a 3 March feast born in 975 was daughter of Count Sigfrid of Luxembourg; she vowed chastity before marrying Henry II, Duke of Bavaria; she was coronated at Paderborn,
    Germany, in 1002, and became Holy Roman Empress in 1014. An accusation of adultery was answered by treading on flaming irons. Henry died in 1024, leaving little to his charitable widow, who had built a monastery that had been dedicated on the day her
    husband would later die - on that date in 1025, after her first year as a widow, she entered the Benedictine monastery for nuns, and died there fifteen years later in 1040.

    There is a Neptunian Grand Trine with Fortune and the Ascendant 2 March 2023 12:47 am CET: during that time the Moon is less than a degree from conjoining Pallas, which is less than a quarter-degree off a solar trine - the dual lunar and Neptunian
    preoccupations could explain the perplexity for Corinth and Ephesus from III.3.

    Vesta is also involved in a Grand Trine with Fortune and the Ascendant 2 March 2023 2:09 am CET (X.6 timing), simultaneous with the Solar-Lunar trine; the Pallas lunar conjunction occurs less than half an hour later at 2:31 am CET. Venus and Jupiter
    conjoin later that morning around 7 am CET.

    The entry of Saturn into Pisces 7 March 2023 to initiate its own reign does not appear described as Saturnin, falling instead under the schedule from I.54.

    Two revolts done as wicked Scythe-bearer exclusive,
    Through reign and cycles accomplishing transformation;
    The movable sign by its placement so intrusive
    To the two equals of similar inclination

    {I.54}

    The movable sign appears to be Libra, yet by describing its placement being intrusive to the two revolts attributed to Saturn it suggests two things: during the primary revolt on 6 January 2021, as I.62 states the Moon had not yet completed its
    course in Libra (last aspect Venusian sextile) - so a reprise of lunar Libra for the second revolt is likely; and because the projected 1 March 2023 date features a Ceres Reign in Libra, the cataclysm may be depicted as an intervening event proving only
    meddlesome to the momentum for political disruption, as the change appears accomplished with the second revolt in any case.

    The theme of V.18 could extend into the aftermath, with line 2 indicating the Saturnin-Lunar Grand Trine with the Vertex 10 March 2023 11:41 pm CET - Saturn is then only 23 minutes of a degree into Pisces; Jupiter is joined by Vesta and Chiron in a
    close grouping around 14 degrees Aries.

    Celebrera son vitrix l'hecatombe

    Its Vertex version as the Sacrifice will be celebrated

    This combines the unlikely coincidences of the Vertex involvement, and the seemingly celebratory Vesta-Jupiter-Chiron group.

    For the US Capitol the equivalent 5:41 pm EST timing has the Moon at 29 degrees 14 minutes Libra, nearing its final aspect for the course, a Pluto square 6:36 pm EST at 29 degrees 44 minutes in their respective signs. This could be the lunar Libran
    chronology insinuated by I.54 for the second Scythe-bearer revolt (i.e., coup).

    Reading certain lines as providing establishing details for unmentioned celestial configurations may yield accurate results where a more straightforward approach could be expected to fail.
    Obviously the discovery of compliant Grand Trines is too elegant a solution to be discarded, although experience has made me reluctant to ever declare comprehension of the seer's intentions; if focusing on the few recent months has demonstrated a
    succession of confluences with actual circumstances for real-world events as foretold, imagine such fulfillments occurring over a twenty-year-plus era without public acknowledgment, so this is only the latest phase demonstrating itself as genuine.

    The 30 January 2023 date derived from the greatest Bible reader of V.83 and Great Basil reclaimed VI.78 for the feast of Three Holy Hierarchs was not very consequential for the US - however 1 February 2023 was a day for an extremely powerful European
    thunderstorm event, with two tornadoes afflicting northern Germany: the second cyclone was rated an F2 based on observed destruction to a pine forest, mowing down trees, stripping their limbs, flinging trunks into nearby fields. Although this was far
    north of the ominous Black Forest, the implication of the central cataclysm being foreshadowed by Nature's Fury for the region is clear.

    The sequencing for the two post-cataclysmic incidents, the Miracle and papal ambush, seems hinted without much ambiguity.

    For the Rhodes of V.16, neo-martyr Saint Niketas should prove the solution: born in 1716 to a governor father, Niketas' family had a Turkish association, there was an Islamic conversion, he was renamed Mehmet, and they moved to Rhodes; at 14 Mehmet
    discovered his Christian former identity, and embraced the faith; ultimately he was tortured for ten days to induce a re-conversion, then beheaded 21 June 1732, at age seventeen.

    Using Garabandal coordinates 20 June 2023 had two astrological quirks: at 12:09 pm CEST a Reinforced Grand Trine, where Vesta at Midheaven was in mutual trine with a Ceres-Fortune merger, and a Pluto-Vertex union; then at 4:53 pm CEST a 'Star-Of-David'
    Double Inverse Grand Trine Set consisting of the Moon at an unmoored chart Apex in a Grand Trine with Fortune and Neptune, juxtaposed against an Inverted Grand Trine with Pluto as the Fulcrum near the Nadir, in mutual trine with Ceres and Vesta. The
    latter time would be when the local witness to the Miracle may first occur.

    The chronology of VII.5 complies, with Saint Raynerius of Pisa of 17 June, then the 20 June anniversary of the papal army suppressing civilian revolt in Perugia.

    The papal ambush occurs after the terror according to V.22, where Parma suggests Blessed John of Parma for 22 May, matching the quatrain enumeration; the two reds making cheer together would be the Mars in Leo square Jupiter (Giant Red Spot) in Taurus
    aspect, both at 1 degree 28 minutes 23 May 2023 7:08 am CEST. Vienne of IX.70 could be for Saint Desiderius with 23 May feast, with the Latin cantons as the ambushing squadrons.

    So the trembling Warning event at 1 March 2023 is followed by the US second coup threat to the Biden administration (further theories omitted here), perhaps culminating in mid-April upheaval; the papal ambush of Fatima's Third Secret seems timed at 23
    May 2023; and the Miracle does not seem witnessed at Garabandal until 20 June 2023.

    The Saturn Reign should reveal its karmic replay of the Capitol riot conditions from 10 March 2023; slow-moving Pluto entering Aquarius will limit the 25 March 2023 Mars reign to a very short interval, yet that seems pivotal in the US political
    upheaval scenario, the 22 March date for Saint Paul of Narbonne figuring in IX.64 (where no resistance can be made) and III.92. The fascism consummates its full betrayal of the democratic ideal the following year, using V.23 to obtain the 6 April 2024
    bucket configuration featuring Mars at one end - the prophecy then has the US ceasing to be sovereign as the Young Empire, transforming into a subservient Brother or Satellite Nation.

    The Miracle is not merely an ectoplasmic spectacle, becoming dislodged to act as Henoch's Sword, driving the wicked into the Abyss that opens in both dimensions, before the chasm closes over them. The first part of V.42 alludes to the timing for that
    fateful activation (Mars ominously at 15 degrees, projected with yet another Grand Trine), while seeming to discuss the historic 1495 invasion by Charles VIII causing the Savoyards to retreat to Turin.

    From August 2023 there may be US conflict with Iran in delayed retaliation, reaching a notable milestone in late October 2023, foretold in IV.95 and IX.55, when Mars and Mercury will oppose Jupiter and the Moon.

    The Chastisement is not conditional if summarized in VI.35, and deduced for the upcoming instance when Mars and Jupiter will conjoin with the South Node, as the time for a solar coronal mass ejection aimed towards the Great Plains region as its primary
    target.

    While John Lennon was receiving backstage tips on playing the harmonica from Delbert McClintock who had performed on Bruce Channel's record, the young girl visionaries at Garabandal were enduring The Night Of Screams, reacting with horror to their
    Marian vision of the future Chastisement, when heat would become so intense people would rush to the ocean en masse for relief, only to find it scalding hot.

    The Geneva vigil was to last about seven months in V.81, likely counting from the 16 July 2022 conditions compared to IV.31; the Epistle passage focusing on a translation made regarding October probably inferred acknowledging the noted foretold sequence
    of events following the 25 October 2022 solar eclipse. A prudent listing would include the Pelosi hammer attack, Seoul Halloween crowd crush, Griner-Bout prisoner exchange, Brasilia insurrection, Nepal plane crash, and Turkey-Syria border sibling quakes,
    among other major news events, with accurate sequencing and confirmatory hagiology and judicial astrology.

    The obvious meaning for Saturnin would be during the Reign of Saturn (as first to make an aspect for the lunar course), which would include the 10 March 2023 11:41 pm CET Grand Trine of Saturn-Moon-Vertex for Geneva, probably hinted in V.18 line 2, with
    the ironic celebration being the Chiron-Vesta-Jupiter grouping around 14 degrees Aries. The second line of II.92 indicating struck from the High-Born implies a time after the 2 March 2023 Venus-Jupiter conjunct, which occurs after the noted Grand Trines;
    the marvelous case could be the synchronized trio convergence. The contrast debases Venus by exclusion: the lines imply Jupiter hosting a party soon after meeting daughter Venus, inviting Chiron and Vesta instead.

    The relevant terms should be reapplied, with the recent configurations as potential subtext, still expecting cataclysmic onset timed at the Geneva chart appearance of some Grand Trine; the Balance would revert to being the 17 November 2022 12:47 am CET
    Venusian Nadir with the Solar-Fulcrum Grand Trine as the Mobile Sign due to its rotation. This focus on 16-17 November 2022 presents an intervening situation for the two Saturnin revolts of I.54, of which the first manifested with 6 January 2021 ending
    the long cycle. Presuming the cataclysm neatly occurs between the two revolts of Saturn seems erroneous: more likely when the negative energy has its recurrence, the karmic rebound effect would generate the cataclysm in tandem - thus the second
    commitment to political iniquity attributed to Saturn should have a corresponding punishing role for Saturn, happening together, or nearly so.

    The conditions for 2 March 2023 were fulfillments using the featured Grand Trine key, plausibly as esoteric precursors, towards the 10 March 2023 Saturn-Moon-Vertex instance during the Saturnin Reign (which commences circa 7 March 2023). The phrasing of
    I.62's final line suggests the punishing fire and flood will not be to forestall the recurrence of the long cycle, possibly insinuating the Geneva Explosive Hail being synchronized with the subsequent Saturnin Reign in its initial long cycle again
    coinciding with a second-attempt coup for the US, which finds no resistance circa 22-25 March 2023 from the IX.64 Mars Narbonne illumination.

    The relevant hagiology for the 10 March date was considered more than twenty years ago, focusing on Saint Macarius for the sepulchral-tomb inferences of VIII.34 and X.6.

    15 March 2000:

    https://groups.google.com/g/alt.prophecies.nostradamus/c/JQ1ZeIPxtS0/m/W42vYx6mEOIJ

    << 10 March St. Macarius was honoured, who was commissioned by Constantine to construct a church over the Holy Sepulcher (he died soon after the basilica was consecrated in 335). >>

    23 February 2001:

    https://groups.google.com/g/alt.prophecies.nostradamus/c/ycGQk-Yl-ek/m/cQO9h83ACx8J

    << 10 March ... St. Macarius as builder of the Church of the Holy Sepulcher could relate to X.6,
    mentioning Vesta in the same line. Also feastday for a martyr named Victor who may figure in VI.70. >>

    Several Grand Trines involving Saturn for Geneva since the 16 July 2022 2:06 am CEST post-Super Full Moon instance have appeared characterized, particularly in December 2022: the Saint Lucy's feast day 13 December 2022 4:46 pm CET Dusk Fortune jump from
    Saturn at Midheaven into a Saturnin Grand Trine for IX.68, compounding the Grand Trine of Pluto-Ceres-East Point, illuminating the divine command to mix the cup for Babylon double, during a Venusian reign; and the 18 December 2022 4:22 pm CET Grand Trine
    of Moon-Saturn-Ascendant, which shortly preceded the shifting Offspring Grand Trine formed with Fortune in succession as Venus-Node-Fortune progressing to Mercury-Ouranos-Fortune - this fulfilled IV.58 line 3, where the 'Chief pail of water leads its son
    in spinning,' confirmed by the final line signifying the prisoner exchange releasing female captive Griner, set at the adjacent 7 December feast for saints of Antioch.

    Since conceptual points with localized calculations are involved, certain Grand Trines would only be evident by selecting the Geneva location and observing chart animation over the significant intervals.

    The Saturn-Fortune-Vertex Grand Trine 22 February 2023 10:47 am CET was configured like the 16 July 2022 instance, both with Saturn at the Eleventh House cusp Apex: 22 February via Saint Paschasius related to Vienne for IX.69, where no identifying
    elements were given; Saturn was near the Moon 16 July 2022, yet near the Sun 22 February 2023 - thus the latter situation presented IX.44, of Saturn with the golden solar presence, approaching some catalytic participation. The emptiness of Vienne in IX.
    69 was concealed by a variant coding for Vienne in IX.70, alluding to 23 May 2023 via Saint Desiderius.

    A further milestone was during the 1-2 March 2023 condition: a Saturn-Moon-Midheaven Grand Trine appeared 1 March 2023 3:48 am CET was presumed to be a falsifying Cupbearer arriving in the wake of the Turkey-Syria border sibling quakes of 6 February 2023,
    according to VI.89; then Fortune and the Ascendant were plotted to form successive Grand Trines with Saturn (1 March 2023 10:30 pm CET, coinciding with a Grand Trine of Sun-Moon-East Point), then Neptune (2 March 2023 12:47 am CET, synchronized with the
    Moon nearing closely-occurring solar trine and Pallas conjunct), and finally Vesta (2 March 2023 2:09 am CET, precisely coinciding with the Sun-Moon trine).

    The Solar-Lunar trine being featured during the 1-2 March 2023 sequence complied with V.66 hinting 'From Sun and Moon,' alluding to this conspicuous integration rather than promising such an aspect would be itself critical.

    The doubling of the Grand Trine with Saturn appeared ominous; the Neptunian Grand Trine was noted for its lunar perplexity in III.3; and the Vestal version completing the sequence could be indicated in the final line of X.6, 'Vesta - sepulchral
    extinguishing fire to appear,' which technically projects towards a further date, playing on the fire goddess identity.

    The conjunction of Venus and Jupiter as the High-Born ones of II.92 occurred 2 March 2023 6:22 am CET (12 degrees 8 minutes Aries), providing an astronomical display of two bright lights appearing closely in the night sky, as the subject of media
    coverage. The unusual combination of being both widow and virgin from VIII.80 applied to Saint Cunegundes (975-1040) with the 3 March feast.

    Saturn enters Pisces 7 March 2023 2:35 pm CET, commencing the presumably critical 'Saturnin Reign': this fateful Saturnin interval concludes when Juno enters Taurus 11 March 2023 5:16 pm CET.

    So the 10 March 2023 11:41 pm CET Saturn-Moon-Vertex Grand Trine now seems the elusive trigger for cataclysmic onset in Geneva, with the quirk that Jupiter will no longer be united with Venus, but in a new grouping with Chiron and Vesta around 14 degrees
    Aries, signifying the sardonic celebration synchronized with Sacrifice in V.18, insinuating the Trinitarian co-founder Felix of Valois potentially dying forlorn with grief, despite his feast being in November, since the inference is more complex.

    On 10 March 2023, the Moon will be a few days beyond the Full Moon, similar to the 16 July 2022 condition.

    The hagiological associations for 10 March include: Saint Macharius, bishop of Jerusalem from 313, discoverer of the True Cross with Saint Helena, mother of Emperor Constantine - the Emperor commissioned Macharius to build the Church of the Holy
    Sepulcher, potentially related to the 'sepulchral' hint of X.6; Saint Victor, a martyr during the Trajan persecution of 250, recalling the 'sole title Victor' in the final line of VI.70; and Saint Anastasius the Patrician was a legendary Lady-In-Waiting
    leaving the court of Emperor Justinian in Constantinople for a convent in Alexandria, fleeing further into the desert when Empress Theodora died and Justinian sought her, ultimately allowed to dress as a monk to live in seclusion for another 28 years -
    Anastasius could be the Lady honored through force of terror in I.94 (the 'new Mars' for vengeance and remorse arrives later, as the brief Martian Reign of 25 March 2032).

    The 11 March feast had a previously noted connection with Milan (in the Lombard region) for the 2011 Japanese quake.

    https://groups.google.com/g/alt.prophecies.nostradamus/c/RvMu5LF9iME/m/GLDOs6QObaIJ

    << The extremely powerful 8.9 quake struck northern Japan on 11 March at
    2:46 p.m. locally, about 15 minutes after the Moon entered Gemini (in
    trine with Pallas). That 11 March date is feast day for Saint Benedict
    Crispus, Archbishop of Milan... >>

    The same date returning in 2023 seems to provide the Lombardy allusion for V.42 and VI.16, no longer encoded for Milan. Saint Benedict Crispus died in 725, after 45 years as Archbishop.

    Other hagiological associations for 11 March include: Saint Pionus of Smyrna brings the Myrrh factor for the implicit Magi Gift Attack scenario from II.92, V.16 and VIII.34; Saint Alberta of Agen (died circa 286) brings an association with Gaul for X.58;
    and Saint Sophronius has a story that embellishes the V.18 hint about dying forlorn from grief - the capture of Jerusalem in 637 so saddened Sophronius that death from grief occurred the following year.

    *

    “I have yet many things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now.
    When the Spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all the truth:
    For he will not speak on his own authority,
    But whatever he HEARS he will speak,
    And he will declare to you the things that ARE TO COME.

    He will glorify Me,
    For he will take what is Mine and DECLARE it to you...

    In that day you will ask nothing of Me."

    [John 16]

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Pamela Brown@21:1/5 to Curtis Eagal on Sun Mar 5 11:22:24 2023
    [continued from previous message]

    The group created an audio catalog with visual components possessing certain properties, thus these were created experiences that could be enjoyed or appreciated. Acknowledging prophetic fulfillment is not a passive-receptive endeavor, instead
    comparing a set of perceived parameters against any compliant conditions in reality: thus re-defining ambiguous terms, and assessing available information for relevancy is a continual challenge towards attaining clarity. In our current times there is not
    the unpopular Vietnam War ostensibly against communism, but instead the invasion of Ukraine threatening an established democratic nation. Prophecy may allow us to find this moment in history, and attain awareness of its potential opportunities and
    pitfalls: the hurdle that must be overcome is to properly define the given terms.

    In the ongoing endeavor, a correct assessment can exist from judicial astrology, without generating media coverage.

    High-Born Ones Meet As The Saturnin Chalice Is Doubled After Falsifying Version
    [1 March 2023 10:30 pm CET / 4:30 pm EST / 1:30 pm EST]

    The 22 February 2023 date as Vienne (via Saint Paschasius) in IX.69 could be valid for the Saturnin Grand Trine with Fortune and the Vertex (local to Geneva), subsequent to the Lyons date 15 February (via Saint Bonitus) when the Nepal plane crash
    occurred.

    Beyond Lyons, Vienne, such great hail for them

    {IX.69}

    So Vienne itself indicates a Saturnin Grand Trine that does not equate to the apocalyptic hail date: in the next quatrain, both Lyons and Vienne have been re-encoded - for 2017 with a different Lyons reference (martyrs 2 June) adjacent to the feast
    of Corpus Christi calculated in 2017 at 3 June (having the 12 August 2017 Charlottesville pro-Confederate statue rally as the first line backdrop, 'sharp weapons hidden under flaming torches'), and another 2023 usage for Vienne (in late May).

    Some of the Saturnin Grand Trine instances appear identified by extraneous details, which seems an effective subtext method due to their infrequency. There is no fabrication in examining the current judicial astrology against the cataclysmic
    prophetic lines, discarding false presumptions for more plausible interpretations. The fatality total from the Turkey-Syria border sibling quakes has reached an immense number, the 6 February date coinciding with the feast for two canonized nephews of
    Saint Patrick; this fulfilled line 3 of II.92, occurring after the final line was associated in real-time with the early January 2023 House Speakership vote debacle, against the 1 January feast for Saint Telemachus who opposed gladiator contests.

    Fire color of gold from terrestrial view -
    Struck with the High-Born, marvelous celestial feat;
    Massive human murder, taken from the Great's Nephew;
    Deaths as spectacles, the conceited one escapes defeat

    {II.92}

    The elusive solution to the High-Born hint should be that one instance of the Saturnin Grand Trine would be attended by that as a distinguishing feature - and this should be the conjunction of Venus as Mystery Babylon, miserable daughter debased by
    joining her disapproving omnipotent father Jupiter, as her pledging the ill-fated vow of VIII.32, 2 March 2023 around 7 am CET.

    ...Paternal love vexed,
    Cupbearer to falsify, Chalice tried

    {VI.89}

    The previous portion of that quatrain relates to the recent sibling quakes in a grisly fashion. There is a Saturnin Grand Trine with the Moon and Midheaven 1 March 2023 3:48 am CET, at Geneva Moonset, as the falsifying Cupbearer; the same day at 10:
    30 pm CET there is another Saturnin Grand Trine with Fortune and the Ascendant - this becomes a 'marvelous case' with the concurrent doubling Grand Trine of The Sun and Moon (as in V.66) with the East Point. Venus in the latter case is about a third of a
    degree from conjoining Jupiter. So the critical time would be -

    << 1 March 2023 10:30 pm CET / 4:30 pm EST / 1:30 pm PST >>

    The Ceres Reign commences 24 February 2023 6:24 pm CET, when Venus progresses beyond their 5-degree 23-minute opposition location, as Ceres continues in retrograde; Mercury entering Pisces 2 March 2023 11:52 pm CET ends the reign of Ceres, which is
    alone in Libra. The Ceres Reign could be the time 'Under The Balance' from V.42, with 'those included' again inferring the fateful Saturnin Grand Trine.

    The clues in VI.82 regarding a Lourdes bludgeon, and the Seventh Vessel Chalice, could be associating Saint Lupercus with the 1 March feast, as a bishop martyred in 300, venerated at Tarbes, near Lourdes.

    March Second has a Lombard association, since it is feast for about four hundred faithful Martyrs of Campania, killed by pagan Lombards circa 579.

    The widow and virgin of VIII.80 could be the same person. Saint Cunegundes with a 3 March feast born in 975 was daughter of Count Sigfrid of Luxembourg; she vowed chastity before marrying Henry II, Duke of Bavaria; she was coronated at Paderborn,
    Germany, in 1002, and became Holy Roman Empress in 1014. An accusation of adultery was answered by treading on flaming irons. Henry died in 1024, leaving little to his charitable widow, who had built a monastery that had been dedicated on the day her
    husband would later die - on that date in 1025, after her first year as a widow, she entered the Benedictine monastery for nuns, and died there fifteen years later in 1040.

    There is a Neptunian Grand Trine with Fortune and the Ascendant 2 March 2023 12:47 am CET: during that time the Moon is less than a degree from conjoining Pallas, which is less than a quarter-degree off a solar trine - the dual lunar and Neptunian
    preoccupations could explain the perplexity for Corinth and Ephesus from III.3.

    Vesta is also involved in a Grand Trine with Fortune and the Ascendant 2 March 2023 2:09 am CET (X.6 timing), simultaneous with the Solar-Lunar trine; the Pallas lunar conjunction occurs less than half an hour later at 2:31 am CET. Venus and
    Jupiter conjoin later that morning around 7 am CET.

    The entry of Saturn into Pisces 7 March 2023 to initiate its own reign does not appear described as Saturnin, falling instead under the schedule from I.54.

    Two revolts done as wicked Scythe-bearer exclusive,
    Through reign and cycles accomplishing transformation;
    The movable sign by its placement so intrusive
    To the two equals of similar inclination

    {I.54}

    The movable sign appears to be Libra, yet by describing its placement being intrusive to the two revolts attributed to Saturn it suggests two things: during the primary revolt on 6 January 2021, as I.62 states the Moon had not yet completed its
    course in Libra (last aspect Venusian sextile) - so a reprise of lunar Libra for the second revolt is likely; and because the projected 1 March 2023 date features a Ceres Reign in Libra, the cataclysm may be depicted as an intervening event proving only
    meddlesome to the momentum for political disruption, as the change appears accomplished with the second revolt in any case.

    The theme of V.18 could extend into the aftermath, with line 2 indicating the Saturnin-Lunar Grand Trine with the Vertex 10 March 2023 11:41 pm CET - Saturn is then only 23 minutes of a degree into Pisces; Jupiter is joined by Vesta and Chiron in a
    close grouping around 14 degrees Aries.

    Celebrera son vitrix l'hecatombe

    Its Vertex version as the Sacrifice will be celebrated

    This combines the unlikely coincidences of the Vertex involvement, and the seemingly celebratory Vesta-Jupiter-Chiron group.

    For the US Capitol the equivalent 5:41 pm EST timing has the Moon at 29 degrees 14 minutes Libra, nearing its final aspect for the course, a Pluto square 6:36 pm EST at 29 degrees 44 minutes in their respective signs. This could be the lunar Libran
    chronology insinuated by I.54 for the second Scythe-bearer revolt (i.e., coup).

    Reading certain lines as providing establishing details for unmentioned celestial configurations may yield accurate results where a more straightforward approach could be expected to fail.
    Obviously the discovery of compliant Grand Trines is too elegant a solution to be discarded, although experience has made me reluctant to ever declare comprehension of the seer's intentions; if focusing on the few recent months has demonstrated a
    succession of confluences with actual circumstances for real-world events as foretold, imagine such fulfillments occurring over a twenty-year-plus era without public acknowledgment, so this is only the latest phase demonstrating itself as genuine.

    The 30 January 2023 date derived from the greatest Bible reader of V.83 and Great Basil reclaimed VI.78 for the feast of Three Holy Hierarchs was not very consequential for the US - however 1 February 2023 was a day for an extremely powerful European
    thunderstorm event, with two tornadoes afflicting northern Germany: the second cyclone was rated an F2 based on observed destruction to a pine forest, mowing down trees, stripping their limbs, flinging trunks into nearby fields. Although this was far
    north of the ominous Black Forest, the implication of the central cataclysm being foreshadowed by Nature's Fury for the region is clear.

    The sequencing for the two post-cataclysmic incidents, the Miracle and papal ambush, seems hinted without much ambiguity.

    For the Rhodes of V.16, neo-martyr Saint Niketas should prove the solution: born in 1716 to a governor father, Niketas' family had a Turkish association, there was an Islamic conversion, he was renamed Mehmet, and they moved to Rhodes; at 14 Mehmet
    discovered his Christian former identity, and embraced the faith; ultimately he was tortured for ten days to induce a re-conversion, then beheaded 21 June 1732, at age seventeen.

    Using Garabandal coordinates 20 June 2023 had two astrological quirks: at 12:09 pm CEST a Reinforced Grand Trine, where Vesta at Midheaven was in mutual trine with a Ceres-Fortune merger, and a Pluto-Vertex union; then at 4:53 pm CEST a 'Star-Of-
    David' Double Inverse Grand Trine Set consisting of the Moon at an unmoored chart Apex in a Grand Trine with Fortune and Neptune, juxtaposed against an Inverted Grand Trine with Pluto as the Fulcrum near the Nadir, in mutual trine with Ceres and Vesta.
    The latter time would be when the local witness to the Miracle may first occur.

    The chronology of VII.5 complies, with Saint Raynerius of Pisa of 17 June, then the 20 June anniversary of the papal army suppressing civilian revolt in Perugia.

    The papal ambush occurs after the terror according to V.22, where Parma suggests Blessed John of Parma for 22 May, matching the quatrain enumeration; the two reds making cheer together would be the Mars in Leo square Jupiter (Giant Red Spot) in
    Taurus aspect, both at 1 degree 28 minutes 23 May 2023 7:08 am CEST. Vienne of IX.70 could be for Saint Desiderius with 23 May feast, with the Latin cantons as the ambushing squadrons.

    So the trembling Warning event at 1 March 2023 is followed by the US second coup threat to the Biden administration (further theories omitted here), perhaps culminating in mid-April upheaval; the papal ambush of Fatima's Third Secret seems timed at
    23 May 2023; and the Miracle does not seem witnessed at Garabandal until 20 June 2023.

    The Saturn Reign should reveal its karmic replay of the Capitol riot conditions from 10 March 2023; slow-moving Pluto entering Aquarius will limit the 25 March 2023 Mars reign to a very short interval, yet that seems pivotal in the US political
    upheaval scenario, the 22 March date for Saint Paul of Narbonne figuring in IX.64 (where no resistance can be made) and III.92. The fascism consummates its full betrayal of the democratic ideal the following year, using V.23 to obtain the 6 April 2024
    bucket configuration featuring Mars at one end - the prophecy then has the US ceasing to be sovereign as the Young Empire, transforming into a subservient Brother or Satellite Nation.

    The Miracle is not merely an ectoplasmic spectacle, becoming dislodged to act as Henoch's Sword, driving the wicked into the Abyss that opens in both dimensions, before the chasm closes over them. The first part of V.42 alludes to the timing for that
    fateful activation (Mars ominously at 15 degrees, projected with yet another Grand Trine), while seeming to discuss the historic 1495 invasion by Charles VIII causing the Savoyards to retreat to Turin.

    From August 2023 there may be US conflict with Iran in delayed retaliation, reaching a notable milestone in late October 2023, foretold in IV.95 and IX.55, when Mars and Mercury will oppose Jupiter and the Moon.

    The Chastisement is not conditional if summarized in VI.35, and deduced for the upcoming instance when Mars and Jupiter will conjoin with the South Node, as the time for a solar coronal mass ejection aimed towards the Great Plains region as its
    primary target.

    While John Lennon was receiving backstage tips on playing the harmonica from Delbert McClintock who had performed on Bruce Channel's record, the young girl visionaries at Garabandal were enduring The Night Of Screams, reacting with horror to their
    Marian vision of the future Chastisement, when heat would become so intense people would rush to the ocean en masse for relief, only to find it scalding hot.
    The Geneva vigil was to last about seven months in V.81, likely counting from the 16 July 2022 conditions compared to IV.31; the Epistle passage focusing on a translation made regarding October probably inferred acknowledging the noted foretold
    sequence of events following the 25 October 2022 solar eclipse. A prudent listing would include the Pelosi hammer attack, Seoul Halloween crowd crush, Griner-Bout prisoner exchange, Brasilia insurrection, Nepal plane crash, and Turkey-Syria border
    sibling quakes, among other major news events, with accurate sequencing and confirmatory hagiology and judicial astrology.

    The obvious meaning for Saturnin would be during the Reign of Saturn (as first to make an aspect for the lunar course), which would include the 10 March 2023 11:41 pm CET Grand Trine of Saturn-Moon-Vertex for Geneva, probably hinted in V.18 line 2,
    with the ironic celebration being the Chiron-Vesta-Jupiter grouping around 14 degrees Aries. The second line of II.92 indicating struck from the High-Born implies a time after the 2 March 2023 Venus-Jupiter conjunct, which occurs after the noted Grand
    Trines; the marvelous case could be the synchronized trio convergence. The contrast debases Venus by exclusion: the lines imply Jupiter hosting a party soon after meeting daughter Venus, inviting Chiron and Vesta instead.

    The relevant terms should be reapplied, with the recent configurations as potential subtext, still expecting cataclysmic onset timed at the Geneva chart appearance of some Grand Trine; the Balance would revert to being the 17 November 2022 12:47 am CET
    Venusian Nadir with the Solar-Fulcrum Grand Trine as the Mobile Sign due to its rotation. This focus on 16-17 November 2022 presents an intervening situation for the two Saturnin revolts of I.54, of which the first manifested with 6 January 2021 ending
    the long cycle. Presuming the cataclysm neatly occurs between the two revolts of Saturn seems erroneous: more likely when the negative energy has its recurrence, the karmic rebound effect would generate the cataclysm in tandem - thus the second
    commitment to political iniquity attributed to Saturn should have a corresponding punishing role for Saturn, happening together, or nearly so.

    The conditions for 2 March 2023 were fulfillments using the featured Grand Trine key, plausibly as esoteric precursors, towards the 10 March 2023 Saturn-Moon-Vertex instance during the Saturnin Reign (which commences circa 7 March 2023). The phrasing
    of I.62's final line suggests the punishing fire and flood will not be to forestall the recurrence of the long cycle, possibly insinuating the Geneva Explosive Hail being synchronized with the subsequent Saturnin Reign in its initial long cycle again
    coinciding with a second-attempt coup for the US, which finds no resistance circa 22-25 March 2023 from the IX.64 Mars Narbonne illumination.

    The relevant hagiology for the 10 March date was considered more than twenty years ago, focusing on Saint Macarius for the sepulchral-tomb inferences of VIII.34 and X.6.

    15 March 2000:

    https://groups.google.com/g/alt.prophecies.nostradamus/c/JQ1ZeIPxtS0/m/W42vYx6mEOIJ

    << 10 March St. Macarius was honoured, who was commissioned by Constantine to construct a church over the Holy Sepulcher (he died soon after the basilica was consecrated in 335). >>

    23 February 2001:

    https://groups.google.com/g/alt.prophecies.nostradamus/c/ycGQk-Yl-ek/m/cQO9h83ACx8J

    << 10 March ... St. Macarius as builder of the Church of the Holy Sepulcher could relate to X.6,
    mentioning Vesta in the same line. Also feastday for a martyr named Victor who may figure in VI.70. >>

    Several Grand Trines involving Saturn for Geneva since the 16 July 2022 2:06 am CEST post-Super Full Moon instance have appeared characterized, particularly in December 2022: the Saint Lucy's feast day 13 December 2022 4:46 pm CET Dusk Fortune jump
    from Saturn at Midheaven into a Saturnin Grand Trine for IX.68, compounding the Grand Trine of Pluto-Ceres-East Point, illuminating the divine command to mix the cup for Babylon double, during a Venusian reign; and the 18 December 2022 4:22 pm CET Grand
    Trine of Moon-Saturn-Ascendant, which shortly preceded the shifting Offspring Grand Trine formed with Fortune in succession as Venus-Node-Fortune progressing to Mercury-Ouranos-Fortune - this fulfilled IV.58 line 3, where the 'Chief pail of water leads
    its son in spinning,' confirmed by the final line signifying the prisoner exchange releasing female captive Griner, set at the adjacent 7 December feast for saints of Antioch.

    Since conceptual points with localized calculations are involved, certain Grand Trines would only be evident by selecting the Geneva location and observing chart animation over the significant intervals.

    The Saturn-Fortune-Vertex Grand Trine 22 February 2023 10:47 am CET was configured like the 16 July 2022 instance, both with Saturn at the Eleventh House cusp Apex: 22 February via Saint Paschasius related to Vienne for IX.69, where no identifying
    elements were given; Saturn was near the Moon 16 July 2022, yet near the Sun 22 February 2023 - thus the latter situation presented IX.44, of Saturn with the golden solar presence, approaching some catalytic participation. The emptiness of Vienne in IX.
    69 was concealed by a variant coding for Vienne in IX.70, alluding to 23 May 2023 via Saint Desiderius.

    A further milestone was during the 1-2 March 2023 condition: a Saturn-Moon-Midheaven Grand Trine appeared 1 March 2023 3:48 am CET was presumed to be a falsifying Cupbearer arriving in the wake of the Turkey-Syria border sibling quakes of 6 February
    2023, according to VI.89; then Fortune and the Ascendant were plotted to form successive Grand Trines with Saturn (1 March 2023 10:30 pm CET, coinciding with a Grand Trine of Sun-Moon-East Point), then Neptune (2 March 2023 12:47 am CET, synchronized
    with the Moon nearing closely-occurring solar trine and Pallas conjunct), and finally Vesta (2 March 2023 2:09 am CET, precisely coinciding with the Sun-Moon trine).

    The Solar-Lunar trine being featured during the 1-2 March 2023 sequence complied with V.66 hinting 'From Sun and Moon,' alluding to this conspicuous integration rather than promising such an aspect would be itself critical.

    The doubling of the Grand Trine with Saturn appeared ominous; the Neptunian Grand Trine was noted for its lunar perplexity in III.3; and the Vestal version completing the sequence could be indicated in the final line of X.6, 'Vesta - sepulchral
    extinguishing fire to appear,' which technically projects towards a further date, playing on the fire goddess identity.

    The conjunction of Venus and Jupiter as the High-Born ones of II.92 occurred 2 March 2023 6:22 am CET (12 degrees 8 minutes Aries), providing an astronomical display of two bright lights appearing closely in the night sky, as the subject of media
    coverage. The unusual combination of being both widow and virgin from VIII.80 applied to Saint Cunegundes (975-1040) with the 3 March feast.

    Saturn enters Pisces 7 March 2023 2:35 pm CET, commencing the presumably critical 'Saturnin Reign': this fateful Saturnin interval concludes when Juno enters Taurus 11 March 2023 5:16 pm CET.

    So the 10 March 2023 11:41 pm CET Saturn-Moon-Vertex Grand Trine now seems the elusive trigger for cataclysmic onset in Geneva, with the quirk that Jupiter will no longer be united with Venus, but in a new grouping with Chiron and Vesta around 14
    degrees Aries, signifying the sardonic celebration synchronized with Sacrifice in V.18, insinuating the Trinitarian co-founder Felix of Valois potentially dying forlorn with grief, despite his feast being in November, since the inference is more complex.

    On 10 March 2023, the Moon will be a few days beyond the Full Moon, similar to the 16 July 2022 condition.

    The hagiological associations for 10 March include: Saint Macharius, bishop of Jerusalem from 313, discoverer of the True Cross with Saint Helena, mother of Emperor Constantine - the Emperor commissioned Macharius to build the Church of the Holy
    Sepulcher, potentially related to the 'sepulchral' hint of X.6; Saint Victor, a martyr during the Trajan persecution of 250, recalling the 'sole title Victor' in the final line of VI.70; and Saint Anastasius the Patrician was a legendary Lady-In-Waiting
    leaving the court of Emperor Justinian in Constantinople for a convent in Alexandria, fleeing further into the desert when Empress Theodora died and Justinian sought her, ultimately allowed to dress as a monk to live in seclusion for another 28 years -
    Anastasius could be the Lady honored through force of terror in I.94 (the 'new Mars' for vengeance and remorse arrives later, as the brief Martian Reign of 25 March 2032).

    The 11 March feast had a previously noted connection with Milan (in the Lombard region) for the 2011 Japanese quake.

    https://groups.google.com/g/alt.prophecies.nostradamus/c/RvMu5LF9iME/m/GLDOs6QObaIJ

    << The extremely powerful 8.9 quake struck northern Japan on 11 March at 2:46 p.m. locally, about 15 minutes after the Moon entered Gemini (in
    trine with Pallas). That 11 March date is feast day for Saint Benedict Crispus, Archbishop of Milan... >>

    The same date returning in 2023 seems to provide the Lombardy allusion for V.42 and VI.16, no longer encoded for Milan. Saint Benedict Crispus died in 725, after 45 years as Archbishop.

    Other hagiological associations for 11 March include: Saint Pionus of Smyrna brings the Myrrh factor for the implicit Magi Gift Attack scenario from II.92, V.16 and VIII.34; Saint Alberta of Agen (died circa 286) brings an association with Gaul for X.
    58; and Saint Sophronius has a story that embellishes the V.18 hint about dying forlorn from grief - the capture of Jerusalem in 637 so saddened Sophronius that death from grief occurred the following year.

    *

    “I have yet many things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now.
    When the Spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all the truth:
    For he will not speak on his own authority,
    But whatever he HEARS he will speak,
    And he will declare to you the things that ARE TO COME.

    He will glorify Me,
    For he will take what is Mine and DECLARE it to you...

    In that day you will ask nothing of Me."

    [John 16]

    This post on my Dylagence blog references the Japan earthquake. It is also possible that this quake has some kind of connection to John and Yoko...

    https://dylagence.wordpress.com/2021/03/12/a-possible-connection-in-the-vortex-odd-references-in-bob-dylans-my-own-version-of-you/

    Pamela

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  • From Curtis Eagal@21:1/5 to Pamela Brown on Tue Mar 7 05:04:56 2023
    [continued from previous message]

    Such a covert statement of objective had within it the eventual requirement for a song like "Penny Lane" with its triumphal entry into Jerusalem subtext, going forth with trumpets on horseback to emulate the Master Jesus - and that became its own
    real phenomenon, featuring the Fab Foursome all riding horses. The early group name "The SILVER Beetles" when spoken and reversed sounds like it ends with the word "Horsemen," suggesting a concept in tandem with the Revelation-parody early press release
    by Lennon.

    The group created an audio catalog with visual components possessing certain properties, thus these were created experiences that could be enjoyed or appreciated. Acknowledging prophetic fulfillment is not a passive-receptive endeavor, instead
    comparing a set of perceived parameters against any compliant conditions in reality: thus re-defining ambiguous terms, and assessing available information for relevancy is a continual challenge towards attaining clarity. In our current times there is not
    the unpopular Vietnam War ostensibly against communism, but instead the invasion of Ukraine threatening an established democratic nation. Prophecy may allow us to find this moment in history, and attain awareness of its potential opportunities and
    pitfalls: the hurdle that must be overcome is to properly define the given terms.

    In the ongoing endeavor, a correct assessment can exist from judicial astrology, without generating media coverage.

    High-Born Ones Meet As The Saturnin Chalice Is Doubled After Falsifying Version
    [1 March 2023 10:30 pm CET / 4:30 pm EST / 1:30 pm EST]

    The 22 February 2023 date as Vienne (via Saint Paschasius) in IX.69 could be valid for the Saturnin Grand Trine with Fortune and the Vertex (local to Geneva), subsequent to the Lyons date 15 February (via Saint Bonitus) when the Nepal plane crash
    occurred.

    Beyond Lyons, Vienne, such great hail for them

    {IX.69}

    So Vienne itself indicates a Saturnin Grand Trine that does not equate to the apocalyptic hail date: in the next quatrain, both Lyons and Vienne have been re-encoded - for 2017 with a different Lyons reference (martyrs 2 June) adjacent to the
    feast of Corpus Christi calculated in 2017 at 3 June (having the 12 August 2017 Charlottesville pro-Confederate statue rally as the first line backdrop, 'sharp weapons hidden under flaming torches'), and another 2023 usage for Vienne (in late May).

    Some of the Saturnin Grand Trine instances appear identified by extraneous details, which seems an effective subtext method due to their infrequency. There is no fabrication in examining the current judicial astrology against the cataclysmic
    prophetic lines, discarding false presumptions for more plausible interpretations. The fatality total from the Turkey-Syria border sibling quakes has reached an immense number, the 6 February date coinciding with the feast for two canonized nephews of
    Saint Patrick; this fulfilled line 3 of II.92, occurring after the final line was associated in real-time with the early January 2023 House Speakership vote debacle, against the 1 January feast for Saint Telemachus who opposed gladiator contests.

    Fire color of gold from terrestrial view -
    Struck with the High-Born, marvelous celestial feat;
    Massive human murder, taken from the Great's Nephew;
    Deaths as spectacles, the conceited one escapes defeat

    {II.92}

    The elusive solution to the High-Born hint should be that one instance of the Saturnin Grand Trine would be attended by that as a distinguishing feature - and this should be the conjunction of Venus as Mystery Babylon, miserable daughter debased
    by joining her disapproving omnipotent father Jupiter, as her pledging the ill-fated vow of VIII.32, 2 March 2023 around 7 am CET.

    ...Paternal love vexed,
    Cupbearer to falsify, Chalice tried

    {VI.89}

    The previous portion of that quatrain relates to the recent sibling quakes in a grisly fashion. There is a Saturnin Grand Trine with the Moon and Midheaven 1 March 2023 3:48 am CET, at Geneva Moonset, as the falsifying Cupbearer; the same day at
    10:30 pm CET there is another Saturnin Grand Trine with Fortune and the Ascendant - this becomes a 'marvelous case' with the concurrent doubling Grand Trine of The Sun and Moon (as in V.66) with the East Point. Venus in the latter case is about a third
    of a degree from conjoining Jupiter. So the critical time would be -

    << 1 March 2023 10:30 pm CET / 4:30 pm EST / 1:30 pm PST >>

    The Ceres Reign commences 24 February 2023 6:24 pm CET, when Venus progresses beyond their 5-degree 23-minute opposition location, as Ceres continues in retrograde; Mercury entering Pisces 2 March 2023 11:52 pm CET ends the reign of Ceres, which
    is alone in Libra. The Ceres Reign could be the time 'Under The Balance' from V.42, with 'those included' again inferring the fateful Saturnin Grand Trine.

    The clues in VI.82 regarding a Lourdes bludgeon, and the Seventh Vessel Chalice, could be associating Saint Lupercus with the 1 March feast, as a bishop martyred in 300, venerated at Tarbes, near Lourdes.

    March Second has a Lombard association, since it is feast for about four hundred faithful Martyrs of Campania, killed by pagan Lombards circa 579.

    The widow and virgin of VIII.80 could be the same person. Saint Cunegundes with a 3 March feast born in 975 was daughter of Count Sigfrid of Luxembourg; she vowed chastity before marrying Henry II, Duke of Bavaria; she was coronated at Paderborn,
    Germany, in 1002, and became Holy Roman Empress in 1014. An accusation of adultery was answered by treading on flaming irons. Henry died in 1024, leaving little to his charitable widow, who had built a monastery that had been dedicated on the day her
    husband would later die - on that date in 1025, after her first year as a widow, she entered the Benedictine monastery for nuns, and died there fifteen years later in 1040.

    There is a Neptunian Grand Trine with Fortune and the Ascendant 2 March 2023 12:47 am CET: during that time the Moon is less than a degree from conjoining Pallas, which is less than a quarter-degree off a solar trine - the dual lunar and
    Neptunian preoccupations could explain the perplexity for Corinth and Ephesus from III.3.

    Vesta is also involved in a Grand Trine with Fortune and the Ascendant 2 March 2023 2:09 am CET (X.6 timing), simultaneous with the Solar-Lunar trine; the Pallas lunar conjunction occurs less than half an hour later at 2:31 am CET. Venus and
    Jupiter conjoin later that morning around 7 am CET.

    The entry of Saturn into Pisces 7 March 2023 to initiate its own reign does not appear described as Saturnin, falling instead under the schedule from I.54.

    Two revolts done as wicked Scythe-bearer exclusive,
    Through reign and cycles accomplishing transformation;
    The movable sign by its placement so intrusive
    To the two equals of similar inclination

    {I.54}

    The movable sign appears to be Libra, yet by describing its placement being intrusive to the two revolts attributed to Saturn it suggests two things: during the primary revolt on 6 January 2021, as I.62 states the Moon had not yet completed its
    course in Libra (last aspect Venusian sextile) - so a reprise of lunar Libra for the second revolt is likely; and because the projected 1 March 2023 date features a Ceres Reign in Libra, the cataclysm may be depicted as an intervening event proving only
    meddlesome to the momentum for political disruption, as the change appears accomplished with the second revolt in any case.

    The theme of V.18 could extend into the aftermath, with line 2 indicating the Saturnin-Lunar Grand Trine with the Vertex 10 March 2023 11:41 pm CET - Saturn is then only 23 minutes of a degree into Pisces; Jupiter is joined by Vesta and Chiron in
    a close grouping around 14 degrees Aries.

    Celebrera son vitrix l'hecatombe

    Its Vertex version as the Sacrifice will be celebrated

    This combines the unlikely coincidences of the Vertex involvement, and the seemingly celebratory Vesta-Jupiter-Chiron group.

    For the US Capitol the equivalent 5:41 pm EST timing has the Moon at 29 degrees 14 minutes Libra, nearing its final aspect for the course, a Pluto square 6:36 pm EST at 29 degrees 44 minutes in their respective signs. This could be the lunar
    Libran chronology insinuated by I.54 for the second Scythe-bearer revolt (i.e., coup).

    Reading certain lines as providing establishing details for unmentioned celestial configurations may yield accurate results where a more straightforward approach could be expected to fail.
    Obviously the discovery of compliant Grand Trines is too elegant a solution to be discarded, although experience has made me reluctant to ever declare comprehension of the seer's intentions; if focusing on the few recent months has demonstrated a
    succession of confluences with actual circumstances for real-world events as foretold, imagine such fulfillments occurring over a twenty-year-plus era without public acknowledgment, so this is only the latest phase demonstrating itself as genuine.

    The 30 January 2023 date derived from the greatest Bible reader of V.83 and Great Basil reclaimed VI.78 for the feast of Three Holy Hierarchs was not very consequential for the US - however 1 February 2023 was a day for an extremely powerful
    European thunderstorm event, with two tornadoes afflicting northern Germany: the second cyclone was rated an F2 based on observed destruction to a pine forest, mowing down trees, stripping their limbs, flinging trunks into nearby fields. Although this
    was far north of the ominous Black Forest, the implication of the central cataclysm being foreshadowed by Nature's Fury for the region is clear.

    The sequencing for the two post-cataclysmic incidents, the Miracle and papal ambush, seems hinted without much ambiguity.

    For the Rhodes of V.16, neo-martyr Saint Niketas should prove the solution: born in 1716 to a governor father, Niketas' family had a Turkish association, there was an Islamic conversion, he was renamed Mehmet, and they moved to Rhodes; at 14 Mehmet
    discovered his Christian former identity, and embraced the faith; ultimately he was tortured for ten days to induce a re-conversion, then beheaded 21 June 1732, at age seventeen.

    Using Garabandal coordinates 20 June 2023 had two astrological quirks: at 12:09 pm CEST a Reinforced Grand Trine, where Vesta at Midheaven was in mutual trine with a Ceres-Fortune merger, and a Pluto-Vertex union; then at 4:53 pm CEST a 'Star-Of-
    David' Double Inverse Grand Trine Set consisting of the Moon at an unmoored chart Apex in a Grand Trine with Fortune and Neptune, juxtaposed against an Inverted Grand Trine with Pluto as the Fulcrum near the Nadir, in mutual trine with Ceres and Vesta.
    The latter time would be when the local witness to the Miracle may first occur.

    The chronology of VII.5 complies, with Saint Raynerius of Pisa of 17 June, then the 20 June anniversary of the papal army suppressing civilian revolt in Perugia.

    The papal ambush occurs after the terror according to V.22, where Parma suggests Blessed John of Parma for 22 May, matching the quatrain enumeration; the two reds making cheer together would be the Mars in Leo square Jupiter (Giant Red Spot) in
    Taurus aspect, both at 1 degree 28 minutes 23 May 2023 7:08 am CEST. Vienne of IX.70 could be for Saint Desiderius with 23 May feast, with the Latin cantons as the ambushing squadrons.

    So the trembling Warning event at 1 March 2023 is followed by the US second coup threat to the Biden administration (further theories omitted here), perhaps culminating in mid-April upheaval; the papal ambush of Fatima's Third Secret seems timed at
    23 May 2023; and the Miracle does not seem witnessed at Garabandal until 20 June 2023.

    The Saturn Reign should reveal its karmic replay of the Capitol riot conditions from 10 March 2023; slow-moving Pluto entering Aquarius will limit the 25 March 2023 Mars reign to a very short interval, yet that seems pivotal in the US political
    upheaval scenario, the 22 March date for Saint Paul of Narbonne figuring in IX.64 (where no resistance can be made) and III.92. The fascism consummates its full betrayal of the democratic ideal the following year, using V.23 to obtain the 6 April 2024
    bucket configuration featuring Mars at one end - the prophecy then has the US ceasing to be sovereign as the Young Empire, transforming into a subservient Brother or Satellite Nation.

    The Miracle is not merely an ectoplasmic spectacle, becoming dislodged to act as Henoch's Sword, driving the wicked into the Abyss that opens in both dimensions, before the chasm closes over them. The first part of V.42 alludes to the timing for
    that fateful activation (Mars ominously at 15 degrees, projected with yet another Grand Trine), while seeming to discuss the historic 1495 invasion by Charles VIII causing the Savoyards to retreat to Turin.

    From August 2023 there may be US conflict with Iran in delayed retaliation, reaching a notable milestone in late October 2023, foretold in IV.95 and IX.55, when Mars and Mercury will oppose Jupiter and the Moon.

    The Chastisement is not conditional if summarized in VI.35, and deduced for the upcoming instance when Mars and Jupiter will conjoin with the South Node, as the time for a solar coronal mass ejection aimed towards the Great Plains region as its
    primary target.

    While John Lennon was receiving backstage tips on playing the harmonica from Delbert McClintock who had performed on Bruce Channel's record, the young girl visionaries at Garabandal were enduring The Night Of Screams, reacting with horror to their
    Marian vision of the future Chastisement, when heat would become so intense people would rush to the ocean en masse for relief, only to find it scalding hot.
    The Geneva vigil was to last about seven months in V.81, likely counting from the 16 July 2022 conditions compared to IV.31; the Epistle passage focusing on a translation made regarding October probably inferred acknowledging the noted foretold
    sequence of events following the 25 October 2022 solar eclipse. A prudent listing would include the Pelosi hammer attack, Seoul Halloween crowd crush, Griner-Bout prisoner exchange, Brasilia insurrection, Nepal plane crash, and Turkey-Syria border
    sibling quakes, among other major news events, with accurate sequencing and confirmatory hagiology and judicial astrology.

    The obvious meaning for Saturnin would be during the Reign of Saturn (as first to make an aspect for the lunar course), which would include the 10 March 2023 11:41 pm CET Grand Trine of Saturn-Moon-Vertex for Geneva, probably hinted in V.18 line 2,
    with the ironic celebration being the Chiron-Vesta-Jupiter grouping around 14 degrees Aries. The second line of II.92 indicating struck from the High-Born implies a time after the 2 March 2023 Venus-Jupiter conjunct, which occurs after the noted Grand
    Trines; the marvelous case could be the synchronized trio convergence. The contrast debases Venus by exclusion: the lines imply Jupiter hosting a party soon after meeting daughter Venus, inviting Chiron and Vesta instead.

    The relevant terms should be reapplied, with the recent configurations as potential subtext, still expecting cataclysmic onset timed at the Geneva chart appearance of some Grand Trine; the Balance would revert to being the 17 November 2022 12:47 am
    CET Venusian Nadir with the Solar-Fulcrum Grand Trine as the Mobile Sign due to its rotation. This focus on 16-17 November 2022 presents an intervening situation for the two Saturnin revolts of I.54, of which the first manifested with 6 January 2021
    ending the long cycle. Presuming the cataclysm neatly occurs between the two revolts of Saturn seems erroneous: more likely when the negative energy has its recurrence, the karmic rebound effect would generate the cataclysm in tandem - thus the second
    commitment to political iniquity attributed to Saturn should have a corresponding punishing role for Saturn, happening together, or nearly so.

    The conditions for 2 March 2023 were fulfillments using the featured Grand Trine key, plausibly as esoteric precursors, towards the 10 March 2023 Saturn-Moon-Vertex instance during the Saturnin Reign (which commences circa 7 March 2023). The phrasing
    of I.62's final line suggests the punishing fire and flood will not be to forestall the recurrence of the long cycle, possibly insinuating the Geneva Explosive Hail being synchronized with the subsequent Saturnin Reign in its initial long cycle again
    coinciding with a second-attempt coup for the US, which finds no resistance circa 22-25 March 2023 from the IX.64 Mars Narbonne illumination.

    The relevant hagiology for the 10 March date was considered more than twenty years ago, focusing on Saint Macarius for the sepulchral-tomb inferences of VIII.34 and X.6.

    15 March 2000:

    https://groups.google.com/g/alt.prophecies.nostradamus/c/JQ1ZeIPxtS0/m/W42vYx6mEOIJ

    << 10 March St. Macarius was honoured, who was commissioned by Constantine to construct a church over the Holy Sepulcher (he died soon after the basilica was consecrated in 335). >>

    23 February 2001:

    https://groups.google.com/g/alt.prophecies.nostradamus/c/ycGQk-Yl-ek/m/cQO9h83ACx8J

    << 10 March ... St. Macarius as builder of the Church of the Holy Sepulcher could relate to X.6,
    mentioning Vesta in the same line. Also feastday for a martyr named Victor who may figure in VI.70. >>

    Several Grand Trines involving Saturn for Geneva since the 16 July 2022 2:06 am CEST post-Super Full Moon instance have appeared characterized, particularly in December 2022: the Saint Lucy's feast day 13 December 2022 4:46 pm CET Dusk Fortune jump
    from Saturn at Midheaven into a Saturnin Grand Trine for IX.68, compounding the Grand Trine of Pluto-Ceres-East Point, illuminating the divine command to mix the cup for Babylon double, during a Venusian reign; and the 18 December 2022 4:22 pm CET Grand
    Trine of Moon-Saturn-Ascendant, which shortly preceded the shifting Offspring Grand Trine formed with Fortune in succession as Venus-Node-Fortune progressing to Mercury-Ouranos-Fortune - this fulfilled IV.58 line 3, where the 'Chief pail of water leads
    its son in spinning,' confirmed by the final line signifying the prisoner exchange releasing female captive Griner, set at the adjacent 7 December feast for saints of Antioch.

    Since conceptual points with localized calculations are involved, certain Grand Trines would only be evident by selecting the Geneva location and observing chart animation over the significant intervals.

    The Saturn-Fortune-Vertex Grand Trine 22 February 2023 10:47 am CET was configured like the 16 July 2022 instance, both with Saturn at the Eleventh House cusp Apex: 22 February via Saint Paschasius related to Vienne for IX.69, where no identifying
    elements were given; Saturn was near the Moon 16 July 2022, yet near the Sun 22 February 2023 - thus the latter situation presented IX.44, of Saturn with the golden solar presence, approaching some catalytic participation. The emptiness of Vienne in IX.
    69 was concealed by a variant coding for Vienne in IX.70, alluding to 23 May 2023 via Saint Desiderius.

    A further milestone was during the 1-2 March 2023 condition: a Saturn-Moon-Midheaven Grand Trine appeared 1 March 2023 3:48 am CET was presumed to be a falsifying Cupbearer arriving in the wake of the Turkey-Syria border sibling quakes of 6 February
    2023, according to VI.89; then Fortune and the Ascendant were plotted to form successive Grand Trines with Saturn (1 March 2023 10:30 pm CET, coinciding with a Grand Trine of Sun-Moon-East Point), then Neptune (2 March 2023 12:47 am CET, synchronized
    with the Moon nearing closely-occurring solar trine and Pallas conjunct), and finally Vesta (2 March 2023 2:09 am CET, precisely coinciding with the Sun-Moon trine).

    The Solar-Lunar trine being featured during the 1-2 March 2023 sequence complied with V.66 hinting 'From Sun and Moon,' alluding to this conspicuous integration rather than promising such an aspect would be itself critical.

    The doubling of the Grand Trine with Saturn appeared ominous; the Neptunian Grand Trine was noted for its lunar perplexity in III.3; and the Vestal version completing the sequence could be indicated in the final line of X.6, 'Vesta - sepulchral
    extinguishing fire to appear,' which technically projects towards a further date, playing on the fire goddess identity.

    The conjunction of Venus and Jupiter as the High-Born ones of II.92 occurred 2 March 2023 6:22 am CET (12 degrees 8 minutes Aries), providing an astronomical display of two bright lights appearing closely in the night sky, as the subject of media
    coverage. The unusual combination of being both widow and virgin from VIII.80 applied to Saint Cunegundes (975-1040) with the 3 March feast.

    Saturn enters Pisces 7 March 2023 2:35 pm CET, commencing the presumably critical 'Saturnin Reign': this fateful Saturnin interval concludes when Juno enters Taurus 11 March 2023 5:16 pm CET.

    So the 10 March 2023 11:41 pm CET Saturn-Moon-Vertex Grand Trine now seems the elusive trigger for cataclysmic onset in Geneva, with the quirk that Jupiter will no longer be united with Venus, but in a new grouping with Chiron and Vesta around 14
    degrees Aries, signifying the sardonic celebration synchronized with Sacrifice in V.18, insinuating the Trinitarian co-founder Felix of Valois potentially dying forlorn with grief, despite his feast being in November, since the inference is more complex.

    On 10 March 2023, the Moon will be a few days beyond the Full Moon, similar to the 16 July 2022 condition.

    The hagiological associations for 10 March include: Saint Macharius, bishop of Jerusalem from 313, discoverer of the True Cross with Saint Helena, mother of Emperor Constantine - the Emperor commissioned Macharius to build the Church of the Holy
    Sepulcher, potentially related to the 'sepulchral' hint of X.6; Saint Victor, a martyr during the Trajan persecution of 250, recalling the 'sole title Victor' in the final line of VI.70; and Saint Anastasius the Patrician was a legendary Lady-In-Waiting
    leaving the court of Emperor Justinian in Constantinople for a convent in Alexandria, fleeing further into the desert when Empress Theodora died and Justinian sought her, ultimately allowed to dress as a monk to live in seclusion for another 28 years -
    Anastasius could be the Lady honored through force of terror in I.94 (the 'new Mars' for vengeance and remorse arrives later, as the brief Martian Reign of 25 March 2032).

    The 11 March feast had a previously noted connection with Milan (in the Lombard region) for the 2011 Japanese quake.

    https://groups.google.com/g/alt.prophecies.nostradamus/c/RvMu5LF9iME/m/GLDOs6QObaIJ

    << The extremely powerful 8.9 quake struck northern Japan on 11 March at 2:46 p.m. locally, about 15 minutes after the Moon entered Gemini (in trine with Pallas). That 11 March date is feast day for Saint Benedict Crispus, Archbishop of Milan... >>

    The same date returning in 2023 seems to provide the Lombardy allusion for V.42 and VI.16, no longer encoded for Milan. Saint Benedict Crispus died in 725, after 45 years as Archbishop.

    Other hagiological associations for 11 March include: Saint Pionus of Smyrna brings the Myrrh factor for the implicit Magi Gift Attack scenario from II.92, V.16 and VIII.34; Saint Alberta of Agen (died circa 286) brings an association with Gaul for X.
    58; and Saint Sophronius has a story that embellishes the V.18 hint about dying forlorn from grief - the capture of Jerusalem in 637 so saddened Sophronius that death from grief occurred the following year.

    *

    “I have yet many things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now. When the Spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all the truth:
    For he will not speak on his own authority,
    But whatever he HEARS he will speak,
    And he will declare to you the things that ARE TO COME.

    He will glorify Me,
    For he will take what is Mine and DECLARE it to you...

    In that day you will ask nothing of Me."

    [John 16]
    This post on my Dylagence blog references the Japan earthquake. It is also possible that this quake has some kind of connection to John and Yoko...

    https://dylagence.wordpress.com/2021/03/12/a-possible-connection-in-the-vortex-odd-references-in-bob-dylans-my-own-version-of-you/

    Pamela

    The March 2011 Japan quake was referred to by some as 3-11, mimicking the 9-11 date-nickname for the 11 September 2001 attacks; the prophetic assessment noted a concurrent Libyan battle at Ra's Lanuf, as a confirming factor.

    The Geneva location was in the first part of IX.44 - the last two lines have an elusive meaning using the RAYPOZ into OZPRAY anagram for the Osprey military aircraft.

    Le contre RAYPOZ exterminera tous
    Avant l'avent le ciel signes fera

    The opposition - OSPREY will exterminate all onboard -
    Before the Advent incident the sky will manifest signs

    The 11 December 2000 Osprey crash in North Carolina, when the crew consisting of four Marines was killed, occurred about eight days into Christian Advent.

    Significantly the 8 April 2000 Osprey crash near Tucson, Arizona, happened during a nighttime training simulation of combat evacuation at Marana Northwest Regional Airport; there was the implication of pilot error with a swifter than recommended descent,
    and the craft caught in a vortex ring lost aerodynamic stability, plunging into its own downwash. There was an erratic roll and inversion, followed by a nose-first plummet to the ground. The 19 Marines onboard, four crew and fifteen passengers, were all
    killed. The plane was commencing participation with the formation around twilight at 6:45 pm MST, and the crash was timed to approximately 8 pm MST.

    The celestial sign inferred is some multiple opposition: the Moon was joined by the Vertex at 7:32 pm MST; then the Gemini Moon was in opposition with Chiron in Sagittarius, both at 17 degrees 6 minutes, at 7:36 pm MST. This augmented Chiron lunar
    opposition could justify the warning about an opposition, however it would have been unknown in early April 2000 that there would be such an incident during the Advent interval later that year to warrant prescient concern about the Lunar-Vertex
    opposition with Chiron. It appears a rhetorical object lesson in judicial astrology, never intended to be used to avoid the foretold dangers.

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  • From Curtis Eagal@21:1/5 to Pamela Brown on Tue Mar 7 06:33:24 2023
    [continued from previous message]

    Such a covert statement of objective had within it the eventual requirement for a song like "Penny Lane" with its triumphal entry into Jerusalem subtext, going forth with trumpets on horseback to emulate the Master Jesus - and that became its own
    real phenomenon, featuring the Fab Foursome all riding horses. The early group name "The SILVER Beetles" when spoken and reversed sounds like it ends with the word "Horsemen," suggesting a concept in tandem with the Revelation-parody early press release
    by Lennon.

    The group created an audio catalog with visual components possessing certain properties, thus these were created experiences that could be enjoyed or appreciated. Acknowledging prophetic fulfillment is not a passive-receptive endeavor, instead
    comparing a set of perceived parameters against any compliant conditions in reality: thus re-defining ambiguous terms, and assessing available information for relevancy is a continual challenge towards attaining clarity. In our current times there is not
    the unpopular Vietnam War ostensibly against communism, but instead the invasion of Ukraine threatening an established democratic nation. Prophecy may allow us to find this moment in history, and attain awareness of its potential opportunities and
    pitfalls: the hurdle that must be overcome is to properly define the given terms.

    In the ongoing endeavor, a correct assessment can exist from judicial astrology, without generating media coverage.

    High-Born Ones Meet As The Saturnin Chalice Is Doubled After Falsifying Version
    [1 March 2023 10:30 pm CET / 4:30 pm EST / 1:30 pm EST]

    The 22 February 2023 date as Vienne (via Saint Paschasius) in IX.69 could be valid for the Saturnin Grand Trine with Fortune and the Vertex (local to Geneva), subsequent to the Lyons date 15 February (via Saint Bonitus) when the Nepal plane crash
    occurred.

    Beyond Lyons, Vienne, such great hail for them

    {IX.69}

    So Vienne itself indicates a Saturnin Grand Trine that does not equate to the apocalyptic hail date: in the next quatrain, both Lyons and Vienne have been re-encoded - for 2017 with a different Lyons reference (martyrs 2 June) adjacent to the
    feast of Corpus Christi calculated in 2017 at 3 June (having the 12 August 2017 Charlottesville pro-Confederate statue rally as the first line backdrop, 'sharp weapons hidden under flaming torches'), and another 2023 usage for Vienne (in late May).

    Some of the Saturnin Grand Trine instances appear identified by extraneous details, which seems an effective subtext method due to their infrequency. There is no fabrication in examining the current judicial astrology against the cataclysmic
    prophetic lines, discarding false presumptions for more plausible interpretations. The fatality total from the Turkey-Syria border sibling quakes has reached an immense number, the 6 February date coinciding with the feast for two canonized nephews of
    Saint Patrick; this fulfilled line 3 of II.92, occurring after the final line was associated in real-time with the early January 2023 House Speakership vote debacle, against the 1 January feast for Saint Telemachus who opposed gladiator contests.

    Fire color of gold from terrestrial view -
    Struck with the High-Born, marvelous celestial feat;
    Massive human murder, taken from the Great's Nephew;
    Deaths as spectacles, the conceited one escapes defeat

    {II.92}

    The elusive solution to the High-Born hint should be that one instance of the Saturnin Grand Trine would be attended by that as a distinguishing feature - and this should be the conjunction of Venus as Mystery Babylon, miserable daughter debased
    by joining her disapproving omnipotent father Jupiter, as her pledging the ill-fated vow of VIII.32, 2 March 2023 around 7 am CET.

    ...Paternal love vexed,
    Cupbearer to falsify, Chalice tried

    {VI.89}

    The previous portion of that quatrain relates to the recent sibling quakes in a grisly fashion. There is a Saturnin Grand Trine with the Moon and Midheaven 1 March 2023 3:48 am CET, at Geneva Moonset, as the falsifying Cupbearer; the same day at
    10:30 pm CET there is another Saturnin Grand Trine with Fortune and the Ascendant - this becomes a 'marvelous case' with the concurrent doubling Grand Trine of The Sun and Moon (as in V.66) with the East Point. Venus in the latter case is about a third
    of a degree from conjoining Jupiter. So the critical time would be -

    << 1 March 2023 10:30 pm CET / 4:30 pm EST / 1:30 pm PST >>

    The Ceres Reign commences 24 February 2023 6:24 pm CET, when Venus progresses beyond their 5-degree 23-minute opposition location, as Ceres continues in retrograde; Mercury entering Pisces 2 March 2023 11:52 pm CET ends the reign of Ceres, which
    is alone in Libra. The Ceres Reign could be the time 'Under The Balance' from V.42, with 'those included' again inferring the fateful Saturnin Grand Trine.

    The clues in VI.82 regarding a Lourdes bludgeon, and the Seventh Vessel Chalice, could be associating Saint Lupercus with the 1 March feast, as a bishop martyred in 300, venerated at Tarbes, near Lourdes.

    March Second has a Lombard association, since it is feast for about four hundred faithful Martyrs of Campania, killed by pagan Lombards circa 579.

    The widow and virgin of VIII.80 could be the same person. Saint Cunegundes with a 3 March feast born in 975 was daughter of Count Sigfrid of Luxembourg; she vowed chastity before marrying Henry II, Duke of Bavaria; she was coronated at Paderborn,
    Germany, in 1002, and became Holy Roman Empress in 1014. An accusation of adultery was answered by treading on flaming irons. Henry died in 1024, leaving little to his charitable widow, who had built a monastery that had been dedicated on the day her
    husband would later die - on that date in 1025, after her first year as a widow, she entered the Benedictine monastery for nuns, and died there fifteen years later in 1040.

    There is a Neptunian Grand Trine with Fortune and the Ascendant 2 March 2023 12:47 am CET: during that time the Moon is less than a degree from conjoining Pallas, which is less than a quarter-degree off a solar trine - the dual lunar and
    Neptunian preoccupations could explain the perplexity for Corinth and Ephesus from III.3.

    Vesta is also involved in a Grand Trine with Fortune and the Ascendant 2 March 2023 2:09 am CET (X.6 timing), simultaneous with the Solar-Lunar trine; the Pallas lunar conjunction occurs less than half an hour later at 2:31 am CET. Venus and
    Jupiter conjoin later that morning around 7 am CET.

    The entry of Saturn into Pisces 7 March 2023 to initiate its own reign does not appear described as Saturnin, falling instead under the schedule from I.54.

    Two revolts done as wicked Scythe-bearer exclusive,
    Through reign and cycles accomplishing transformation;
    The movable sign by its placement so intrusive
    To the two equals of similar inclination

    {I.54}

    The movable sign appears to be Libra, yet by describing its placement being intrusive to the two revolts attributed to Saturn it suggests two things: during the primary revolt on 6 January 2021, as I.62 states the Moon had not yet completed its
    course in Libra (last aspect Venusian sextile) - so a reprise of lunar Libra for the second revolt is likely; and because the projected 1 March 2023 date features a Ceres Reign in Libra, the cataclysm may be depicted as an intervening event proving only
    meddlesome to the momentum for political disruption, as the change appears accomplished with the second revolt in any case.

    The theme of V.18 could extend into the aftermath, with line 2 indicating the Saturnin-Lunar Grand Trine with the Vertex 10 March 2023 11:41 pm CET - Saturn is then only 23 minutes of a degree into Pisces; Jupiter is joined by Vesta and Chiron in
    a close grouping around 14 degrees Aries.

    Celebrera son vitrix l'hecatombe

    Its Vertex version as the Sacrifice will be celebrated

    This combines the unlikely coincidences of the Vertex involvement, and the seemingly celebratory Vesta-Jupiter-Chiron group.

    For the US Capitol the equivalent 5:41 pm EST timing has the Moon at 29 degrees 14 minutes Libra, nearing its final aspect for the course, a Pluto square 6:36 pm EST at 29 degrees 44 minutes in their respective signs. This could be the lunar
    Libran chronology insinuated by I.54 for the second Scythe-bearer revolt (i.e., coup).

    Reading certain lines as providing establishing details for unmentioned celestial configurations may yield accurate results where a more straightforward approach could be expected to fail.
    Obviously the discovery of compliant Grand Trines is too elegant a solution to be discarded, although experience has made me reluctant to ever declare comprehension of the seer's intentions; if focusing on the few recent months has demonstrated a
    succession of confluences with actual circumstances for real-world events as foretold, imagine such fulfillments occurring over a twenty-year-plus era without public acknowledgment, so this is only the latest phase demonstrating itself as genuine.

    The 30 January 2023 date derived from the greatest Bible reader of V.83 and Great Basil reclaimed VI.78 for the feast of Three Holy Hierarchs was not very consequential for the US - however 1 February 2023 was a day for an extremely powerful
    European thunderstorm event, with two tornadoes afflicting northern Germany: the second cyclone was rated an F2 based on observed destruction to a pine forest, mowing down trees, stripping their limbs, flinging trunks into nearby fields. Although this
    was far north of the ominous Black Forest, the implication of the central cataclysm being foreshadowed by Nature's Fury for the region is clear.

    The sequencing for the two post-cataclysmic incidents, the Miracle and papal ambush, seems hinted without much ambiguity.

    For the Rhodes of V.16, neo-martyr Saint Niketas should prove the solution: born in 1716 to a governor father, Niketas' family had a Turkish association, there was an Islamic conversion, he was renamed Mehmet, and they moved to Rhodes; at 14 Mehmet
    discovered his Christian former identity, and embraced the faith; ultimately he was tortured for ten days to induce a re-conversion, then beheaded 21 June 1732, at age seventeen.

    Using Garabandal coordinates 20 June 2023 had two astrological quirks: at 12:09 pm CEST a Reinforced Grand Trine, where Vesta at Midheaven was in mutual trine with a Ceres-Fortune merger, and a Pluto-Vertex union; then at 4:53 pm CEST a 'Star-Of-
    David' Double Inverse Grand Trine Set consisting of the Moon at an unmoored chart Apex in a Grand Trine with Fortune and Neptune, juxtaposed against an Inverted Grand Trine with Pluto as the Fulcrum near the Nadir, in mutual trine with Ceres and Vesta.
    The latter time would be when the local witness to the Miracle may first occur.

    The chronology of VII.5 complies, with Saint Raynerius of Pisa of 17 June, then the 20 June anniversary of the papal army suppressing civilian revolt in Perugia.

    The papal ambush occurs after the terror according to V.22, where Parma suggests Blessed John of Parma for 22 May, matching the quatrain enumeration; the two reds making cheer together would be the Mars in Leo square Jupiter (Giant Red Spot) in
    Taurus aspect, both at 1 degree 28 minutes 23 May 2023 7:08 am CEST. Vienne of IX.70 could be for Saint Desiderius with 23 May feast, with the Latin cantons as the ambushing squadrons.

    So the trembling Warning event at 1 March 2023 is followed by the US second coup threat to the Biden administration (further theories omitted here), perhaps culminating in mid-April upheaval; the papal ambush of Fatima's Third Secret seems timed at
    23 May 2023; and the Miracle does not seem witnessed at Garabandal until 20 June 2023.

    The Saturn Reign should reveal its karmic replay of the Capitol riot conditions from 10 March 2023; slow-moving Pluto entering Aquarius will limit the 25 March 2023 Mars reign to a very short interval, yet that seems pivotal in the US political
    upheaval scenario, the 22 March date for Saint Paul of Narbonne figuring in IX.64 (where no resistance can be made) and III.92. The fascism consummates its full betrayal of the democratic ideal the following year, using V.23 to obtain the 6 April 2024
    bucket configuration featuring Mars at one end - the prophecy then has the US ceasing to be sovereign as the Young Empire, transforming into a subservient Brother or Satellite Nation.

    The Miracle is not merely an ectoplasmic spectacle, becoming dislodged to act as Henoch's Sword, driving the wicked into the Abyss that opens in both dimensions, before the chasm closes over them. The first part of V.42 alludes to the timing for
    that fateful activation (Mars ominously at 15 degrees, projected with yet another Grand Trine), while seeming to discuss the historic 1495 invasion by Charles VIII causing the Savoyards to retreat to Turin.

    From August 2023 there may be US conflict with Iran in delayed retaliation, reaching a notable milestone in late October 2023, foretold in IV.95 and IX.55, when Mars and Mercury will oppose Jupiter and the Moon.

    The Chastisement is not conditional if summarized in VI.35, and deduced for the upcoming instance when Mars and Jupiter will conjoin with the South Node, as the time for a solar coronal mass ejection aimed towards the Great Plains region as its
    primary target.

    While John Lennon was receiving backstage tips on playing the harmonica from Delbert McClintock who had performed on Bruce Channel's record, the young girl visionaries at Garabandal were enduring The Night Of Screams, reacting with horror to their
    Marian vision of the future Chastisement, when heat would become so intense people would rush to the ocean en masse for relief, only to find it scalding hot.
    The Geneva vigil was to last about seven months in V.81, likely counting from the 16 July 2022 conditions compared to IV.31; the Epistle passage focusing on a translation made regarding October probably inferred acknowledging the noted foretold
    sequence of events following the 25 October 2022 solar eclipse. A prudent listing would include the Pelosi hammer attack, Seoul Halloween crowd crush, Griner-Bout prisoner exchange, Brasilia insurrection, Nepal plane crash, and Turkey-Syria border
    sibling quakes, among other major news events, with accurate sequencing and confirmatory hagiology and judicial astrology.

    The obvious meaning for Saturnin would be during the Reign of Saturn (as first to make an aspect for the lunar course), which would include the 10 March 2023 11:41 pm CET Grand Trine of Saturn-Moon-Vertex for Geneva, probably hinted in V.18 line 2,
    with the ironic celebration being the Chiron-Vesta-Jupiter grouping around 14 degrees Aries. The second line of II.92 indicating struck from the High-Born implies a time after the 2 March 2023 Venus-Jupiter conjunct, which occurs after the noted Grand
    Trines; the marvelous case could be the synchronized trio convergence. The contrast debases Venus by exclusion: the lines imply Jupiter hosting a party soon after meeting daughter Venus, inviting Chiron and Vesta instead.

    The relevant terms should be reapplied, with the recent configurations as potential subtext, still expecting cataclysmic onset timed at the Geneva chart appearance of some Grand Trine; the Balance would revert to being the 17 November 2022 12:47 am
    CET Venusian Nadir with the Solar-Fulcrum Grand Trine as the Mobile Sign due to its rotation. This focus on 16-17 November 2022 presents an intervening situation for the two Saturnin revolts of I.54, of which the first manifested with 6 January 2021
    ending the long cycle. Presuming the cataclysm neatly occurs between the two revolts of Saturn seems erroneous: more likely when the negative energy has its recurrence, the karmic rebound effect would generate the cataclysm in tandem - thus the second
    commitment to political iniquity attributed to Saturn should have a corresponding punishing role for Saturn, happening together, or nearly so.

    The conditions for 2 March 2023 were fulfillments using the featured Grand Trine key, plausibly as esoteric precursors, towards the 10 March 2023 Saturn-Moon-Vertex instance during the Saturnin Reign (which commences circa 7 March 2023). The phrasing
    of I.62's final line suggests the punishing fire and flood will not be to forestall the recurrence of the long cycle, possibly insinuating the Geneva Explosive Hail being synchronized with the subsequent Saturnin Reign in its initial long cycle again
    coinciding with a second-attempt coup for the US, which finds no resistance circa 22-25 March 2023 from the IX.64 Mars Narbonne illumination.

    The relevant hagiology for the 10 March date was considered more than twenty years ago, focusing on Saint Macarius for the sepulchral-tomb inferences of VIII.34 and X.6.

    15 March 2000:

    https://groups.google.com/g/alt.prophecies.nostradamus/c/JQ1ZeIPxtS0/m/W42vYx6mEOIJ

    << 10 March St. Macarius was honoured, who was commissioned by Constantine to construct a church over the Holy Sepulcher (he died soon after the basilica was consecrated in 335). >>

    23 February 2001:

    https://groups.google.com/g/alt.prophecies.nostradamus/c/ycGQk-Yl-ek/m/cQO9h83ACx8J

    << 10 March ... St. Macarius as builder of the Church of the Holy Sepulcher could relate to X.6,
    mentioning Vesta in the same line. Also feastday for a martyr named Victor who may figure in VI.70. >>

    Several Grand Trines involving Saturn for Geneva since the 16 July 2022 2:06 am CEST post-Super Full Moon instance have appeared characterized, particularly in December 2022: the Saint Lucy's feast day 13 December 2022 4:46 pm CET Dusk Fortune jump
    from Saturn at Midheaven into a Saturnin Grand Trine for IX.68, compounding the Grand Trine of Pluto-Ceres-East Point, illuminating the divine command to mix the cup for Babylon double, during a Venusian reign; and the 18 December 2022 4:22 pm CET Grand
    Trine of Moon-Saturn-Ascendant, which shortly preceded the shifting Offspring Grand Trine formed with Fortune in succession as Venus-Node-Fortune progressing to Mercury-Ouranos-Fortune - this fulfilled IV.58 line 3, where the 'Chief pail of water leads
    its son in spinning,' confirmed by the final line signifying the prisoner exchange releasing female captive Griner, set at the adjacent 7 December feast for saints of Antioch.

    Since conceptual points with localized calculations are involved, certain Grand Trines would only be evident by selecting the Geneva location and observing chart animation over the significant intervals.

    The Saturn-Fortune-Vertex Grand Trine 22 February 2023 10:47 am CET was configured like the 16 July 2022 instance, both with Saturn at the Eleventh House cusp Apex: 22 February via Saint Paschasius related to Vienne for IX.69, where no identifying
    elements were given; Saturn was near the Moon 16 July 2022, yet near the Sun 22 February 2023 - thus the latter situation presented IX.44, of Saturn with the golden solar presence, approaching some catalytic participation. The emptiness of Vienne in IX.
    69 was concealed by a variant coding for Vienne in IX.70, alluding to 23 May 2023 via Saint Desiderius.

    A further milestone was during the 1-2 March 2023 condition: a Saturn-Moon-Midheaven Grand Trine appeared 1 March 2023 3:48 am CET was presumed to be a falsifying Cupbearer arriving in the wake of the Turkey-Syria border sibling quakes of 6 February
    2023, according to VI.89; then Fortune and the Ascendant were plotted to form successive Grand Trines with Saturn (1 March 2023 10:30 pm CET, coinciding with a Grand Trine of Sun-Moon-East Point), then Neptune (2 March 2023 12:47 am CET, synchronized
    with the Moon nearing closely-occurring solar trine and Pallas conjunct), and finally Vesta (2 March 2023 2:09 am CET, precisely coinciding with the Sun-Moon trine).

    The Solar-Lunar trine being featured during the 1-2 March 2023 sequence complied with V.66 hinting 'From Sun and Moon,' alluding to this conspicuous integration rather than promising such an aspect would be itself critical.

    The doubling of the Grand Trine with Saturn appeared ominous; the Neptunian Grand Trine was noted for its lunar perplexity in III.3; and the Vestal version completing the sequence could be indicated in the final line of X.6, 'Vesta - sepulchral
    extinguishing fire to appear,' which technically projects towards a further date, playing on the fire goddess identity.

    The conjunction of Venus and Jupiter as the High-Born ones of II.92 occurred 2 March 2023 6:22 am CET (12 degrees 8 minutes Aries), providing an astronomical display of two bright lights appearing closely in the night sky, as the subject of media
    coverage. The unusual combination of being both widow and virgin from VIII.80 applied to Saint Cunegundes (975-1040) with the 3 March feast.

    Saturn enters Pisces 7 March 2023 2:35 pm CET, commencing the presumably critical 'Saturnin Reign': this fateful Saturnin interval concludes when Juno enters Taurus 11 March 2023 5:16 pm CET.

    So the 10 March 2023 11:41 pm CET Saturn-Moon-Vertex Grand Trine now seems the elusive trigger for cataclysmic onset in Geneva, with the quirk that Jupiter will no longer be united with Venus, but in a new grouping with Chiron and Vesta around 14
    degrees Aries, signifying the sardonic celebration synchronized with Sacrifice in V.18, insinuating the Trinitarian co-founder Felix of Valois potentially dying forlorn with grief, despite his feast being in November, since the inference is more complex.

    On 10 March 2023, the Moon will be a few days beyond the Full Moon, similar to the 16 July 2022 condition.

    The hagiological associations for 10 March include: Saint Macharius, bishop of Jerusalem from 313, discoverer of the True Cross with Saint Helena, mother of Emperor Constantine - the Emperor commissioned Macharius to build the Church of the Holy
    Sepulcher, potentially related to the 'sepulchral' hint of X.6; Saint Victor, a martyr during the Trajan persecution of 250, recalling the 'sole title Victor' in the final line of VI.70; and Saint Anastasius the Patrician was a legendary Lady-In-Waiting
    leaving the court of Emperor Justinian in Constantinople for a convent in Alexandria, fleeing further into the desert when Empress Theodora died and Justinian sought her, ultimately allowed to dress as a monk to live in seclusion for another 28 years -
    Anastasius could be the Lady honored through force of terror in I.94 (the 'new Mars' for vengeance and remorse arrives later, as the brief Martian Reign of 25 March 2032).

    The 11 March feast had a previously noted connection with Milan (in the Lombard region) for the 2011 Japanese quake.

    https://groups.google.com/g/alt.prophecies.nostradamus/c/RvMu5LF9iME/m/GLDOs6QObaIJ

    << The extremely powerful 8.9 quake struck northern Japan on 11 March at 2:46 p.m. locally, about 15 minutes after the Moon entered Gemini (in trine with Pallas). That 11 March date is feast day for Saint Benedict Crispus, Archbishop of Milan... >>

    The same date returning in 2023 seems to provide the Lombardy allusion for V.42 and VI.16, no longer encoded for Milan. Saint Benedict Crispus died in 725, after 45 years as Archbishop.

    Other hagiological associations for 11 March include: Saint Pionus of Smyrna brings the Myrrh factor for the implicit Magi Gift Attack scenario from II.92, V.16 and VIII.34; Saint Alberta of Agen (died circa 286) brings an association with Gaul for X.
    58; and Saint Sophronius has a story that embellishes the V.18 hint about dying forlorn from grief - the capture of Jerusalem in 637 so saddened Sophronius that death from grief occurred the following year.

    *

    “I have yet many things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now. When the Spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all the truth:
    For he will not speak on his own authority,
    But whatever he HEARS he will speak,
    And he will declare to you the things that ARE TO COME.

    He will glorify Me,
    For he will take what is Mine and DECLARE it to you...

    In that day you will ask nothing of Me."

    [John 16]
    This post on my Dylagence blog references the Japan earthquake. It is also possible that this quake has some kind of connection to John and Yoko...

    https://dylagence.wordpress.com/2021/03/12/a-possible-connection-in-the-vortex-odd-references-in-bob-dylans-my-own-version-of-you/

    Pamela

    https://www.accessonline.com/articles/yoko-ono-sends-her-love-to-victims-of-japan-earthquake-98360

    << Yoko Ono, John Lennon’s widow, expressed her pain following the devastation in Japan caused by the 8.9-magnitude earthquake and subsequent tsunami that has wrecked havoc on her native country.

    “My dear people of Japan: I feel numb now, as if I was there myself and hit with this disaster as you have been. Only just recently I visited Tokyo, and was delighted how beautiful, clean and quiet the city was! I didn’t expect a disaster like this
    to happen to the country I love so much,” Yoko said in a statement.

    “One year, John, my husband, Sean and I were in the hotel in Tokyo. It was in the morning, and the earthquake suddenly hit three of us. I immediately grabbed Sean, who was still a little boy then. I went into an open closet, holding Sean tightly, and
    sat in there, keep repeating Namyohorengekyo. After the earthquake subsided, John laughed and said, he didn’t understand why I sat in an open closet. I explained to him that it was important that to be protected by a structure. Well, at least, that was
    what I was told when I was a child. The earthquake John, Sean and I experienced was not at all like the one you just experienced. But still my body is now shaking tonight from the memory of it,” her statement continued.

    “So I feel deeply for you for having experienced the earthquake that was the severest in the history of Japan. It must have been so, so horrible. I extend my sympathy and love to each one of you. I’m very sorry that you had to go through what you
    went through. My heart is with you all the way,” the artist/activist added. >>

    L'an mil sept cent feront grands emmenees
    Subjugant presque le coin Aquilonaire

    [I.49]

    The year Seventeen Hundred there will be a great carrying away;
    Subjugation near the Northern corner

    Two major events of 1700 were the Japanese Orphan Tsunami and the onset of the Great Northern War.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Curtis Eagal@21:1/5 to Pamela Brown on Sat Mar 11 08:58:04 2023
    [continued from previous message]

    Such a covert statement of objective had within it the eventual requirement for a song like "Penny Lane" with its triumphal entry into Jerusalem subtext, going forth with trumpets on horseback to emulate the Master Jesus - and that became its own
    real phenomenon, featuring the Fab Foursome all riding horses. The early group name "The SILVER Beetles" when spoken and reversed sounds like it ends with the word "Horsemen," suggesting a concept in tandem with the Revelation-parody early press release
    by Lennon.

    The group created an audio catalog with visual components possessing certain properties, thus these were created experiences that could be enjoyed or appreciated. Acknowledging prophetic fulfillment is not a passive-receptive endeavor, instead
    comparing a set of perceived parameters against any compliant conditions in reality: thus re-defining ambiguous terms, and assessing available information for relevancy is a continual challenge towards attaining clarity. In our current times there is not
    the unpopular Vietnam War ostensibly against communism, but instead the invasion of Ukraine threatening an established democratic nation. Prophecy may allow us to find this moment in history, and attain awareness of its potential opportunities and
    pitfalls: the hurdle that must be overcome is to properly define the given terms.

    In the ongoing endeavor, a correct assessment can exist from judicial astrology, without generating media coverage.

    High-Born Ones Meet As The Saturnin Chalice Is Doubled After Falsifying Version
    [1 March 2023 10:30 pm CET / 4:30 pm EST / 1:30 pm EST]

    The 22 February 2023 date as Vienne (via Saint Paschasius) in IX.69 could be valid for the Saturnin Grand Trine with Fortune and the Vertex (local to Geneva), subsequent to the Lyons date 15 February (via Saint Bonitus) when the Nepal plane crash
    occurred.

    Beyond Lyons, Vienne, such great hail for them

    {IX.69}

    So Vienne itself indicates a Saturnin Grand Trine that does not equate to the apocalyptic hail date: in the next quatrain, both Lyons and Vienne have been re-encoded - for 2017 with a different Lyons reference (martyrs 2 June) adjacent to the
    feast of Corpus Christi calculated in 2017 at 3 June (having the 12 August 2017 Charlottesville pro-Confederate statue rally as the first line backdrop, 'sharp weapons hidden under flaming torches'), and another 2023 usage for Vienne (in late May).

    Some of the Saturnin Grand Trine instances appear identified by extraneous details, which seems an effective subtext method due to their infrequency. There is no fabrication in examining the current judicial astrology against the cataclysmic
    prophetic lines, discarding false presumptions for more plausible interpretations. The fatality total from the Turkey-Syria border sibling quakes has reached an immense number, the 6 February date coinciding with the feast for two canonized nephews of
    Saint Patrick; this fulfilled line 3 of II.92, occurring after the final line was associated in real-time with the early January 2023 House Speakership vote debacle, against the 1 January feast for Saint Telemachus who opposed gladiator contests.

    Fire color of gold from terrestrial view -
    Struck with the High-Born, marvelous celestial feat;
    Massive human murder, taken from the Great's Nephew;
    Deaths as spectacles, the conceited one escapes defeat

    {II.92}

    The elusive solution to the High-Born hint should be that one instance of the Saturnin Grand Trine would be attended by that as a distinguishing feature - and this should be the conjunction of Venus as Mystery Babylon, miserable daughter debased
    by joining her disapproving omnipotent father Jupiter, as her pledging the ill-fated vow of VIII.32, 2 March 2023 around 7 am CET.

    ...Paternal love vexed,
    Cupbearer to falsify, Chalice tried

    {VI.89}

    The previous portion of that quatrain relates to the recent sibling quakes in a grisly fashion. There is a Saturnin Grand Trine with the Moon and Midheaven 1 March 2023 3:48 am CET, at Geneva Moonset, as the falsifying Cupbearer; the same day at
    10:30 pm CET there is another Saturnin Grand Trine with Fortune and the Ascendant - this becomes a 'marvelous case' with the concurrent doubling Grand Trine of The Sun and Moon (as in V.66) with the East Point. Venus in the latter case is about a third
    of a degree from conjoining Jupiter. So the critical time would be -

    << 1 March 2023 10:30 pm CET / 4:30 pm EST / 1:30 pm PST >>

    The Ceres Reign commences 24 February 2023 6:24 pm CET, when Venus progresses beyond their 5-degree 23-minute opposition location, as Ceres continues in retrograde; Mercury entering Pisces 2 March 2023 11:52 pm CET ends the reign of Ceres, which
    is alone in Libra. The Ceres Reign could be the time 'Under The Balance' from V.42, with 'those included' again inferring the fateful Saturnin Grand Trine.

    The clues in VI.82 regarding a Lourdes bludgeon, and the Seventh Vessel Chalice, could be associating Saint Lupercus with the 1 March feast, as a bishop martyred in 300, venerated at Tarbes, near Lourdes.

    March Second has a Lombard association, since it is feast for about four hundred faithful Martyrs of Campania, killed by pagan Lombards circa 579.

    The widow and virgin of VIII.80 could be the same person. Saint Cunegundes with a 3 March feast born in 975 was daughter of Count Sigfrid of Luxembourg; she vowed chastity before marrying Henry II, Duke of Bavaria; she was coronated at Paderborn,
    Germany, in 1002, and became Holy Roman Empress in 1014. An accusation of adultery was answered by treading on flaming irons. Henry died in 1024, leaving little to his charitable widow, who had built a monastery that had been dedicated on the day her
    husband would later die - on that date in 1025, after her first year as a widow, she entered the Benedictine monastery for nuns, and died there fifteen years later in 1040.

    There is a Neptunian Grand Trine with Fortune and the Ascendant 2 March 2023 12:47 am CET: during that time the Moon is less than a degree from conjoining Pallas, which is less than a quarter-degree off a solar trine - the dual lunar and
    Neptunian preoccupations could explain the perplexity for Corinth and Ephesus from III.3.

    Vesta is also involved in a Grand Trine with Fortune and the Ascendant 2 March 2023 2:09 am CET (X.6 timing), simultaneous with the Solar-Lunar trine; the Pallas lunar conjunction occurs less than half an hour later at 2:31 am CET. Venus and
    Jupiter conjoin later that morning around 7 am CET.

    The entry of Saturn into Pisces 7 March 2023 to initiate its own reign does not appear described as Saturnin, falling instead under the schedule from I.54.

    Two revolts done as wicked Scythe-bearer exclusive,
    Through reign and cycles accomplishing transformation;
    The movable sign by its placement so intrusive
    To the two equals of similar inclination

    {I.54}

    The movable sign appears to be Libra, yet by describing its placement being intrusive to the two revolts attributed to Saturn it suggests two things: during the primary revolt on 6 January 2021, as I.62 states the Moon had not yet completed its
    course in Libra (last aspect Venusian sextile) - so a reprise of lunar Libra for the second revolt is likely; and because the projected 1 March 2023 date features a Ceres Reign in Libra, the cataclysm may be depicted as an intervening event proving only
    meddlesome to the momentum for political disruption, as the change appears accomplished with the second revolt in any case.

    The theme of V.18 could extend into the aftermath, with line 2 indicating the Saturnin-Lunar Grand Trine with the Vertex 10 March 2023 11:41 pm CET - Saturn is then only 23 minutes of a degree into Pisces; Jupiter is joined by Vesta and Chiron in
    a close grouping around 14 degrees Aries.

    Celebrera son vitrix l'hecatombe

    Its Vertex version as the Sacrifice will be celebrated

    This combines the unlikely coincidences of the Vertex involvement, and the seemingly celebratory Vesta-Jupiter-Chiron group.

    For the US Capitol the equivalent 5:41 pm EST timing has the Moon at 29 degrees 14 minutes Libra, nearing its final aspect for the course, a Pluto square 6:36 pm EST at 29 degrees 44 minutes in their respective signs. This could be the lunar
    Libran chronology insinuated by I.54 for the second Scythe-bearer revolt (i.e., coup).

    Reading certain lines as providing establishing details for unmentioned celestial configurations may yield accurate results where a more straightforward approach could be expected to fail.
    Obviously the discovery of compliant Grand Trines is too elegant a solution to be discarded, although experience has made me reluctant to ever declare comprehension of the seer's intentions; if focusing on the few recent months has demonstrated a
    succession of confluences with actual circumstances for real-world events as foretold, imagine such fulfillments occurring over a twenty-year-plus era without public acknowledgment, so this is only the latest phase demonstrating itself as genuine.

    The 30 January 2023 date derived from the greatest Bible reader of V.83 and Great Basil reclaimed VI.78 for the feast of Three Holy Hierarchs was not very consequential for the US - however 1 February 2023 was a day for an extremely powerful
    European thunderstorm event, with two tornadoes afflicting northern Germany: the second cyclone was rated an F2 based on observed destruction to a pine forest, mowing down trees, stripping their limbs, flinging trunks into nearby fields. Although this
    was far north of the ominous Black Forest, the implication of the central cataclysm being foreshadowed by Nature's Fury for the region is clear.

    The sequencing for the two post-cataclysmic incidents, the Miracle and papal ambush, seems hinted without much ambiguity.

    For the Rhodes of V.16, neo-martyr Saint Niketas should prove the solution: born in 1716 to a governor father, Niketas' family had a Turkish association, there was an Islamic conversion, he was renamed Mehmet, and they moved to Rhodes; at 14 Mehmet
    discovered his Christian former identity, and embraced the faith; ultimately he was tortured for ten days to induce a re-conversion, then beheaded 21 June 1732, at age seventeen.

    Using Garabandal coordinates 20 June 2023 had two astrological quirks: at 12:09 pm CEST a Reinforced Grand Trine, where Vesta at Midheaven was in mutual trine with a Ceres-Fortune merger, and a Pluto-Vertex union; then at 4:53 pm CEST a 'Star-Of-
    David' Double Inverse Grand Trine Set consisting of the Moon at an unmoored chart Apex in a Grand Trine with Fortune and Neptune, juxtaposed against an Inverted Grand Trine with Pluto as the Fulcrum near the Nadir, in mutual trine with Ceres and Vesta.
    The latter time would be when the local witness to the Miracle may first occur.

    The chronology of VII.5 complies, with Saint Raynerius of Pisa of 17 June, then the 20 June anniversary of the papal army suppressing civilian revolt in Perugia.

    The papal ambush occurs after the terror according to V.22, where Parma suggests Blessed John of Parma for 22 May, matching the quatrain enumeration; the two reds making cheer together would be the Mars in Leo square Jupiter (Giant Red Spot) in
    Taurus aspect, both at 1 degree 28 minutes 23 May 2023 7:08 am CEST. Vienne of IX.70 could be for Saint Desiderius with 23 May feast, with the Latin cantons as the ambushing squadrons.

    So the trembling Warning event at 1 March 2023 is followed by the US second coup threat to the Biden administration (further theories omitted here), perhaps culminating in mid-April upheaval; the papal ambush of Fatima's Third Secret seems timed at
    23 May 2023; and the Miracle does not seem witnessed at Garabandal until 20 June 2023.

    The Saturn Reign should reveal its karmic replay of the Capitol riot conditions from 10 March 2023; slow-moving Pluto entering Aquarius will limit the 25 March 2023 Mars reign to a very short interval, yet that seems pivotal in the US political
    upheaval scenario, the 22 March date for Saint Paul of Narbonne figuring in IX.64 (where no resistance can be made) and III.92. The fascism consummates its full betrayal of the democratic ideal the following year, using V.23 to obtain the 6 April 2024
    bucket configuration featuring Mars at one end - the prophecy then has the US ceasing to be sovereign as the Young Empire, transforming into a subservient Brother or Satellite Nation.

    The Miracle is not merely an ectoplasmic spectacle, becoming dislodged to act as Henoch's Sword, driving the wicked into the Abyss that opens in both dimensions, before the chasm closes over them. The first part of V.42 alludes to the timing for
    that fateful activation (Mars ominously at 15 degrees, projected with yet another Grand Trine), while seeming to discuss the historic 1495 invasion by Charles VIII causing the Savoyards to retreat to Turin.

    From August 2023 there may be US conflict with Iran in delayed retaliation, reaching a notable milestone in late October 2023, foretold in IV.95 and IX.55, when Mars and Mercury will oppose Jupiter and the Moon.

    The Chastisement is not conditional if summarized in VI.35, and deduced for the upcoming instance when Mars and Jupiter will conjoin with the South Node, as the time for a solar coronal mass ejection aimed towards the Great Plains region as its
    primary target.

    While John Lennon was receiving backstage tips on playing the harmonica from Delbert McClintock who had performed on Bruce Channel's record, the young girl visionaries at Garabandal were enduring The Night Of Screams, reacting with horror to their
    Marian vision of the future Chastisement, when heat would become so intense people would rush to the ocean en masse for relief, only to find it scalding hot.
    The Geneva vigil was to last about seven months in V.81, likely counting from the 16 July 2022 conditions compared to IV.31; the Epistle passage focusing on a translation made regarding October probably inferred acknowledging the noted foretold
    sequence of events following the 25 October 2022 solar eclipse. A prudent listing would include the Pelosi hammer attack, Seoul Halloween crowd crush, Griner-Bout prisoner exchange, Brasilia insurrection, Nepal plane crash, and Turkey-Syria border
    sibling quakes, among other major news events, with accurate sequencing and confirmatory hagiology and judicial astrology.

    The obvious meaning for Saturnin would be during the Reign of Saturn (as first to make an aspect for the lunar course), which would include the 10 March 2023 11:41 pm CET Grand Trine of Saturn-Moon-Vertex for Geneva, probably hinted in V.18 line 2,
    with the ironic celebration being the Chiron-Vesta-Jupiter grouping around 14 degrees Aries. The second line of II.92 indicating struck from the High-Born implies a time after the 2 March 2023 Venus-Jupiter conjunct, which occurs after the noted Grand
    Trines; the marvelous case could be the synchronized trio convergence. The contrast debases Venus by exclusion: the lines imply Jupiter hosting a party soon after meeting daughter Venus, inviting Chiron and Vesta instead.

    The relevant terms should be reapplied, with the recent configurations as potential subtext, still expecting cataclysmic onset timed at the Geneva chart appearance of some Grand Trine; the Balance would revert to being the 17 November 2022 12:47 am
    CET Venusian Nadir with the Solar-Fulcrum Grand Trine as the Mobile Sign due to its rotation. This focus on 16-17 November 2022 presents an intervening situation for the two Saturnin revolts of I.54, of which the first manifested with 6 January 2021
    ending the long cycle. Presuming the cataclysm neatly occurs between the two revolts of Saturn seems erroneous: more likely when the negative energy has its recurrence, the karmic rebound effect would generate the cataclysm in tandem - thus the second
    commitment to political iniquity attributed to Saturn should have a corresponding punishing role for Saturn, happening together, or nearly so.

    The conditions for 2 March 2023 were fulfillments using the featured Grand Trine key, plausibly as esoteric precursors, towards the 10 March 2023 Saturn-Moon-Vertex instance during the Saturnin Reign (which commences circa 7 March 2023). The phrasing
    of I.62's final line suggests the punishing fire and flood will not be to forestall the recurrence of the long cycle, possibly insinuating the Geneva Explosive Hail being synchronized with the subsequent Saturnin Reign in its initial long cycle again
    coinciding with a second-attempt coup for the US, which finds no resistance circa 22-25 March 2023 from the IX.64 Mars Narbonne illumination.

    The relevant hagiology for the 10 March date was considered more than twenty years ago, focusing on Saint Macarius for the sepulchral-tomb inferences of VIII.34 and X.6.

    15 March 2000:

    https://groups.google.com/g/alt.prophecies.nostradamus/c/JQ1ZeIPxtS0/m/W42vYx6mEOIJ

    << 10 March St. Macarius was honoured, who was commissioned by Constantine to construct a church over the Holy Sepulcher (he died soon after the basilica was consecrated in 335). >>

    23 February 2001:

    https://groups.google.com/g/alt.prophecies.nostradamus/c/ycGQk-Yl-ek/m/cQO9h83ACx8J

    << 10 March ... St. Macarius as builder of the Church of the Holy Sepulcher could relate to X.6,
    mentioning Vesta in the same line. Also feastday for a martyr named Victor who may figure in VI.70. >>

    Several Grand Trines involving Saturn for Geneva since the 16 July 2022 2:06 am CEST post-Super Full Moon instance have appeared characterized, particularly in December 2022: the Saint Lucy's feast day 13 December 2022 4:46 pm CET Dusk Fortune jump
    from Saturn at Midheaven into a Saturnin Grand Trine for IX.68, compounding the Grand Trine of Pluto-Ceres-East Point, illuminating the divine command to mix the cup for Babylon double, during a Venusian reign; and the 18 December 2022 4:22 pm CET Grand
    Trine of Moon-Saturn-Ascendant, which shortly preceded the shifting Offspring Grand Trine formed with Fortune in succession as Venus-Node-Fortune progressing to Mercury-Ouranos-Fortune - this fulfilled IV.58 line 3, where the 'Chief pail of water leads
    its son in spinning,' confirmed by the final line signifying the prisoner exchange releasing female captive Griner, set at the adjacent 7 December feast for saints of Antioch.

    Since conceptual points with localized calculations are involved, certain Grand Trines would only be evident by selecting the Geneva location and observing chart animation over the significant intervals.

    The Saturn-Fortune-Vertex Grand Trine 22 February 2023 10:47 am CET was configured like the 16 July 2022 instance, both with Saturn at the Eleventh House cusp Apex: 22 February via Saint Paschasius related to Vienne for IX.69, where no identifying
    elements were given; Saturn was near the Moon 16 July 2022, yet near the Sun 22 February 2023 - thus the latter situation presented IX.44, of Saturn with the golden solar presence, approaching some catalytic participation. The emptiness of Vienne in IX.
    69 was concealed by a variant coding for Vienne in IX.70, alluding to 23 May 2023 via Saint Desiderius.

    A further milestone was during the 1-2 March 2023 condition: a Saturn-Moon-Midheaven Grand Trine appeared 1 March 2023 3:48 am CET was presumed to be a falsifying Cupbearer arriving in the wake of the Turkey-Syria border sibling quakes of 6 February
    2023, according to VI.89; then Fortune and the Ascendant were plotted to form successive Grand Trines with Saturn (1 March 2023 10:30 pm CET, coinciding with a Grand Trine of Sun-Moon-East Point), then Neptune (2 March 2023 12:47 am CET, synchronized
    with the Moon nearing closely-occurring solar trine and Pallas conjunct), and finally Vesta (2 March 2023 2:09 am CET, precisely coinciding with the Sun-Moon trine).

    The Solar-Lunar trine being featured during the 1-2 March 2023 sequence complied with V.66 hinting 'From Sun and Moon,' alluding to this conspicuous integration rather than promising such an aspect would be itself critical.

    The doubling of the Grand Trine with Saturn appeared ominous; the Neptunian Grand Trine was noted for its lunar perplexity in III.3; and the Vestal version completing the sequence could be indicated in the final line of X.6, 'Vesta - sepulchral
    extinguishing fire to appear,' which technically projects towards a further date, playing on the fire goddess identity.

    The conjunction of Venus and Jupiter as the High-Born ones of II.92 occurred 2 March 2023 6:22 am CET (12 degrees 8 minutes Aries), providing an astronomical display of two bright lights appearing closely in the night sky, as the subject of media
    coverage. The unusual combination of being both widow and virgin from VIII.80 applied to Saint Cunegundes (975-1040) with the 3 March feast.

    Saturn enters Pisces 7 March 2023 2:35 pm CET, commencing the presumably critical 'Saturnin Reign': this fateful Saturnin interval concludes when Juno enters Taurus 11 March 2023 5:16 pm CET.

    So the 10 March 2023 11:41 pm CET Saturn-Moon-Vertex Grand Trine now seems the elusive trigger for cataclysmic onset in Geneva, with the quirk that Jupiter will no longer be united with Venus, but in a new grouping with Chiron and Vesta around 14
    degrees Aries, signifying the sardonic celebration synchronized with Sacrifice in V.18, insinuating the Trinitarian co-founder Felix of Valois potentially dying forlorn with grief, despite his feast being in November, since the inference is more complex.

    On 10 March 2023, the Moon will be a few days beyond the Full Moon, similar to the 16 July 2022 condition.

    The hagiological associations for 10 March include: Saint Macharius, bishop of Jerusalem from 313, discoverer of the True Cross with Saint Helena, mother of Emperor Constantine - the Emperor commissioned Macharius to build the Church of the Holy
    Sepulcher, potentially related to the 'sepulchral' hint of X.6; Saint Victor, a martyr during the Trajan persecution of 250, recalling the 'sole title Victor' in the final line of VI.70; and Saint Anastasius the Patrician was a legendary Lady-In-Waiting
    leaving the court of Emperor Justinian in Constantinople for a convent in Alexandria, fleeing further into the desert when Empress Theodora died and Justinian sought her, ultimately allowed to dress as a monk to live in seclusion for another 28 years -
    Anastasius could be the Lady honored through force of terror in I.94 (the 'new Mars' for vengeance and remorse arrives later, as the brief Martian Reign of 25 March 2032).

    The 11 March feast had a previously noted connection with Milan (in the Lombard region) for the 2011 Japanese quake.

    https://groups.google.com/g/alt.prophecies.nostradamus/c/RvMu5LF9iME/m/GLDOs6QObaIJ

    << The extremely powerful 8.9 quake struck northern Japan on 11 March at 2:46 p.m. locally, about 15 minutes after the Moon entered Gemini (in trine with Pallas). That 11 March date is feast day for Saint Benedict Crispus, Archbishop of Milan... >>

    The same date returning in 2023 seems to provide the Lombardy allusion for V.42 and VI.16, no longer encoded for Milan. Saint Benedict Crispus died in 725, after 45 years as Archbishop.

    Other hagiological associations for 11 March include: Saint Pionus of Smyrna brings the Myrrh factor for the implicit Magi Gift Attack scenario from II.92, V.16 and VIII.34; Saint Alberta of Agen (died circa 286) brings an association with Gaul for X.
    58; and Saint Sophronius has a story that embellishes the V.18 hint about dying forlorn from grief - the capture of Jerusalem in 637 so saddened Sophronius that death from grief occurred the following year.

    *

    “I have yet many things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now. When the Spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all the truth:
    For he will not speak on his own authority,
    But whatever he HEARS he will speak,
    And he will declare to you the things that ARE TO COME.

    He will glorify Me,
    For he will take what is Mine and DECLARE it to you...

    In that day you will ask nothing of Me."

    [John 16]
    This post on my Dylagence blog references the Japan earthquake. It is also possible that this quake has some kind of connection to John and Yoko...

    https://dylagence.wordpress.com/2021/03/12/a-possible-connection-in-the-vortex-odd-references-in-bob-dylans-my-own-version-of-you/

    Pamela

    There are three Saturnin intervals in the 2023 cycle, but only the first two have Grand Trines, relating to the reigning concept. The March 2023 succession leading into the primary Plutonian Reign (using CET for Geneva) is:

    Saturn 7 March 2:35 pm;
    Juno 11 March 5:16 pm;
    Saturn 12 March 7:24 pm;
    Venus 16 March 11:35 pm;
    Saturn 17 March 11:28 pm;
    Ceres 18 March 12:05 am;
    Sun 20 March 10:25 pm;
    Ceres 21 March 8:53 am;
    Pluto 23 March 1:24 pm;
    Mars 25 March 12:46 pm;
    Pluto 25 March 3:15 pm.

    Returning to X.50, the first half applied to 18 December 2017, feast of Saint Bodagisil of the Meuse river in Belgium, when a train derailed in Washington state, confirmed by the phrase 'Saturn and three in the urn' - Saturn was in Sagittarius with the
    Sun, Mercury and Venus; the second half has a Lorraine flood occurring through betrayal by the Great Urn. During the Saturnin period commencing 7 March 2023, Saturn is in Pisces with the Sun, Mercury and Neptune - this somewhat reprised situation for
    Saturn is adjacent to Aries, containing five celestial bodies (the Vesta-Jupiter-Chiron grouping with Venus and Juno). When Juno advances into Taurus 11 March 2023, Aries loses its 'Great Urn' five-body status, and the primary Saturnin interval has
    expired: the Juno Reign separates the primary and secondary Saturnin intervals.

    Pluto moves so slowly its position upon reigning cuts short other planetary reigns, as for Mars on 25 March 2023 limited to about 3.5 hours; because Saint Paul of Narbonne has the 22 March feast, this brief Mars reign could relate to IX.64 line 2 ('
    Narbonne with Mars no resistance will be made'), suggesting a second coup that succeeds in terminating the Constitutional United States.

    Lorraine likely refers to Blessed Margaret (1463-1521), using not her commemoration on 2 November, but her 10 March 1921 beatification date, which in 2023 coincided with Geneva's 11:41 pm CET Grand Trine of Saturn-Moon-Vertex, arriving during the primary
    Saturnin interval for the falsifying Cupbearer of VI.89. It seems unnecessarily redundant for Saturn to be both in a rare reign and having that interval include a Grand Trine including Saturn. Margaret was born to nobility, married to the Duke of Alencon;
    as a widow she entered the Poor Clares order; when she was exhumed in 1792 during the French Revolution she was found incorrupt, with her heart placed in a small reliquary.

    The notion of Vesta being engulfed from VI.19 corresponds with the approximately 3.5-hour interval between her respective 12 March 2023 conjuncts with Chiron (around 1 pm CET) and Jupiter (4:32 pm CET): this is only a few hours before the secondary
    Saturnin interval.

    So the second Saturnin interval commencing 12 March 2023 is indicated, and this was found to have a Grand Trine involving the Moon, Neptune and the Vertex 13 March 2023 1:38 am CET [12 March 2023 8:38 pm EDT / 5:38 pm PDT] - this configuration could
    fulfill both the perplexity of Corinth (for Neptune) and Ephesus (for the Moon) in III.3, and the Vertex (Vitrix) implication in V.18, for officiating the Sacrifice.

    Both the 10 March 2023 11:41 pm CET Saturn-Moon-Vertex Grand Trine and the 13 March 2023 1:38 am CET Neptune-Moon-Vertex Grand Trine have the Vesta-Jupiter-Chiron cluster beneath the Ecliptic: the second instance could be in V.65, where 'affair' is again
    no longer in view, with intense sudden terror, as the Chalice tried in VI.89, contrasting the two Saturnin interval Grand Trines.

    The 'Sun and Moon' stipulation of V.66 could have been met by the 1 March 2023 10:30 pm CET Grand Trine of the Sun, Moon and East Point, coinciding with the Saturn-Fortune-Ascendant Grand Trine.

    The debasement of Venus (X.28) could regard her single-day reign 16 March 2023, following the Saturnin cataclysmic onset.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Curtis Eagal@21:1/5 to Pamela Brown on Mon Mar 13 12:53:06 2023
    [continued from previous message]

    Such a covert statement of objective had within it the eventual requirement for a song like "Penny Lane" with its triumphal entry into Jerusalem subtext, going forth with trumpets on horseback to emulate the Master Jesus - and that became its own
    real phenomenon, featuring the Fab Foursome all riding horses. The early group name "The SILVER Beetles" when spoken and reversed sounds like it ends with the word "Horsemen," suggesting a concept in tandem with the Revelation-parody early press release
    by Lennon.

    The group created an audio catalog with visual components possessing certain properties, thus these were created experiences that could be enjoyed or appreciated. Acknowledging prophetic fulfillment is not a passive-receptive endeavor, instead
    comparing a set of perceived parameters against any compliant conditions in reality: thus re-defining ambiguous terms, and assessing available information for relevancy is a continual challenge towards attaining clarity. In our current times there is not
    the unpopular Vietnam War ostensibly against communism, but instead the invasion of Ukraine threatening an established democratic nation. Prophecy may allow us to find this moment in history, and attain awareness of its potential opportunities and
    pitfalls: the hurdle that must be overcome is to properly define the given terms.

    In the ongoing endeavor, a correct assessment can exist from judicial astrology, without generating media coverage.

    High-Born Ones Meet As The Saturnin Chalice Is Doubled After Falsifying Version
    [1 March 2023 10:30 pm CET / 4:30 pm EST / 1:30 pm EST]

    The 22 February 2023 date as Vienne (via Saint Paschasius) in IX.69 could be valid for the Saturnin Grand Trine with Fortune and the Vertex (local to Geneva), subsequent to the Lyons date 15 February (via Saint Bonitus) when the Nepal plane crash
    occurred.

    Beyond Lyons, Vienne, such great hail for them

    {IX.69}

    So Vienne itself indicates a Saturnin Grand Trine that does not equate to the apocalyptic hail date: in the next quatrain, both Lyons and Vienne have been re-encoded - for 2017 with a different Lyons reference (martyrs 2 June) adjacent to the
    feast of Corpus Christi calculated in 2017 at 3 June (having the 12 August 2017 Charlottesville pro-Confederate statue rally as the first line backdrop, 'sharp weapons hidden under flaming torches'), and another 2023 usage for Vienne (in late May).

    Some of the Saturnin Grand Trine instances appear identified by extraneous details, which seems an effective subtext method due to their infrequency. There is no fabrication in examining the current judicial astrology against the cataclysmic
    prophetic lines, discarding false presumptions for more plausible interpretations. The fatality total from the Turkey-Syria border sibling quakes has reached an immense number, the 6 February date coinciding with the feast for two canonized nephews of
    Saint Patrick; this fulfilled line 3 of II.92, occurring after the final line was associated in real-time with the early January 2023 House Speakership vote debacle, against the 1 January feast for Saint Telemachus who opposed gladiator contests.

    Fire color of gold from terrestrial view -
    Struck with the High-Born, marvelous celestial feat;
    Massive human murder, taken from the Great's Nephew;
    Deaths as spectacles, the conceited one escapes defeat

    {II.92}

    The elusive solution to the High-Born hint should be that one instance of the Saturnin Grand Trine would be attended by that as a distinguishing feature - and this should be the conjunction of Venus as Mystery Babylon, miserable daughter debased
    by joining her disapproving omnipotent father Jupiter, as her pledging the ill-fated vow of VIII.32, 2 March 2023 around 7 am CET.

    ...Paternal love vexed,
    Cupbearer to falsify, Chalice tried

    {VI.89}

    The previous portion of that quatrain relates to the recent sibling quakes in a grisly fashion. There is a Saturnin Grand Trine with the Moon and Midheaven 1 March 2023 3:48 am CET, at Geneva Moonset, as the falsifying Cupbearer; the same day at
    10:30 pm CET there is another Saturnin Grand Trine with Fortune and the Ascendant - this becomes a 'marvelous case' with the concurrent doubling Grand Trine of The Sun and Moon (as in V.66) with the East Point. Venus in the latter case is about a third
    of a degree from conjoining Jupiter. So the critical time would be -

    << 1 March 2023 10:30 pm CET / 4:30 pm EST / 1:30 pm PST >>

    The Ceres Reign commences 24 February 2023 6:24 pm CET, when Venus progresses beyond their 5-degree 23-minute opposition location, as Ceres continues in retrograde; Mercury entering Pisces 2 March 2023 11:52 pm CET ends the reign of Ceres, which
    is alone in Libra. The Ceres Reign could be the time 'Under The Balance' from V.42, with 'those included' again inferring the fateful Saturnin Grand Trine.

    The clues in VI.82 regarding a Lourdes bludgeon, and the Seventh Vessel Chalice, could be associating Saint Lupercus with the 1 March feast, as a bishop martyred in 300, venerated at Tarbes, near Lourdes.

    March Second has a Lombard association, since it is feast for about four hundred faithful Martyrs of Campania, killed by pagan Lombards circa 579.

    The widow and virgin of VIII.80 could be the same person. Saint Cunegundes with a 3 March feast born in 975 was daughter of Count Sigfrid of Luxembourg; she vowed chastity before marrying Henry II, Duke of Bavaria; she was coronated at Paderborn,
    Germany, in 1002, and became Holy Roman Empress in 1014. An accusation of adultery was answered by treading on flaming irons. Henry died in 1024, leaving little to his charitable widow, who had built a monastery that had been dedicated on the day her
    husband would later die - on that date in 1025, after her first year as a widow, she entered the Benedictine monastery for nuns, and died there fifteen years later in 1040.

    There is a Neptunian Grand Trine with Fortune and the Ascendant 2 March 2023 12:47 am CET: during that time the Moon is less than a degree from conjoining Pallas, which is less than a quarter-degree off a solar trine - the dual lunar and
    Neptunian preoccupations could explain the perplexity for Corinth and Ephesus from III.3.

    Vesta is also involved in a Grand Trine with Fortune and the Ascendant 2 March 2023 2:09 am CET (X.6 timing), simultaneous with the Solar-Lunar trine; the Pallas lunar conjunction occurs less than half an hour later at 2:31 am CET. Venus and
    Jupiter conjoin later that morning around 7 am CET.

    The entry of Saturn into Pisces 7 March 2023 to initiate its own reign does not appear described as Saturnin, falling instead under the schedule from I.54.

    Two revolts done as wicked Scythe-bearer exclusive,
    Through reign and cycles accomplishing transformation;
    The movable sign by its placement so intrusive
    To the two equals of similar inclination

    {I.54}

    The movable sign appears to be Libra, yet by describing its placement being intrusive to the two revolts attributed to Saturn it suggests two things: during the primary revolt on 6 January 2021, as I.62 states the Moon had not yet completed its
    course in Libra (last aspect Venusian sextile) - so a reprise of lunar Libra for the second revolt is likely; and because the projected 1 March 2023 date features a Ceres Reign in Libra, the cataclysm may be depicted as an intervening event proving only
    meddlesome to the momentum for political disruption, as the change appears accomplished with the second revolt in any case.

    The theme of V.18 could extend into the aftermath, with line 2 indicating the Saturnin-Lunar Grand Trine with the Vertex 10 March 2023 11:41 pm CET - Saturn is then only 23 minutes of a degree into Pisces; Jupiter is joined by Vesta and Chiron in
    a close grouping around 14 degrees Aries.

    Celebrera son vitrix l'hecatombe

    Its Vertex version as the Sacrifice will be celebrated

    This combines the unlikely coincidences of the Vertex involvement, and the seemingly celebratory Vesta-Jupiter-Chiron group.

    For the US Capitol the equivalent 5:41 pm EST timing has the Moon at 29 degrees 14 minutes Libra, nearing its final aspect for the course, a Pluto square 6:36 pm EST at 29 degrees 44 minutes in their respective signs. This could be the lunar
    Libran chronology insinuated by I.54 for the second Scythe-bearer revolt (i.e., coup).

    Reading certain lines as providing establishing details for unmentioned celestial configurations may yield accurate results where a more straightforward approach could be expected to fail.
    Obviously the discovery of compliant Grand Trines is too elegant a solution to be discarded, although experience has made me reluctant to ever declare comprehension of the seer's intentions; if focusing on the few recent months has demonstrated a
    succession of confluences with actual circumstances for real-world events as foretold, imagine such fulfillments occurring over a twenty-year-plus era without public acknowledgment, so this is only the latest phase demonstrating itself as genuine.

    The 30 January 2023 date derived from the greatest Bible reader of V.83 and Great Basil reclaimed VI.78 for the feast of Three Holy Hierarchs was not very consequential for the US - however 1 February 2023 was a day for an extremely powerful
    European thunderstorm event, with two tornadoes afflicting northern Germany: the second cyclone was rated an F2 based on observed destruction to a pine forest, mowing down trees, stripping their limbs, flinging trunks into nearby fields. Although this
    was far north of the ominous Black Forest, the implication of the central cataclysm being foreshadowed by Nature's Fury for the region is clear.

    The sequencing for the two post-cataclysmic incidents, the Miracle and papal ambush, seems hinted without much ambiguity.

    For the Rhodes of V.16, neo-martyr Saint Niketas should prove the solution: born in 1716 to a governor father, Niketas' family had a Turkish association, there was an Islamic conversion, he was renamed Mehmet, and they moved to Rhodes; at 14 Mehmet
    discovered his Christian former identity, and embraced the faith; ultimately he was tortured for ten days to induce a re-conversion, then beheaded 21 June 1732, at age seventeen.

    Using Garabandal coordinates 20 June 2023 had two astrological quirks: at 12:09 pm CEST a Reinforced Grand Trine, where Vesta at Midheaven was in mutual trine with a Ceres-Fortune merger, and a Pluto-Vertex union; then at 4:53 pm CEST a 'Star-Of-
    David' Double Inverse Grand Trine Set consisting of the Moon at an unmoored chart Apex in a Grand Trine with Fortune and Neptune, juxtaposed against an Inverted Grand Trine with Pluto as the Fulcrum near the Nadir, in mutual trine with Ceres and Vesta.
    The latter time would be when the local witness to the Miracle may first occur.

    The chronology of VII.5 complies, with Saint Raynerius of Pisa of 17 June, then the 20 June anniversary of the papal army suppressing civilian revolt in Perugia.

    The papal ambush occurs after the terror according to V.22, where Parma suggests Blessed John of Parma for 22 May, matching the quatrain enumeration; the two reds making cheer together would be the Mars in Leo square Jupiter (Giant Red Spot) in
    Taurus aspect, both at 1 degree 28 minutes 23 May 2023 7:08 am CEST. Vienne of IX.70 could be for Saint Desiderius with 23 May feast, with the Latin cantons as the ambushing squadrons.

    So the trembling Warning event at 1 March 2023 is followed by the US second coup threat to the Biden administration (further theories omitted here), perhaps culminating in mid-April upheaval; the papal ambush of Fatima's Third Secret seems timed at
    23 May 2023; and the Miracle does not seem witnessed at Garabandal until 20 June 2023.

    The Saturn Reign should reveal its karmic replay of the Capitol riot conditions from 10 March 2023; slow-moving Pluto entering Aquarius will limit the 25 March 2023 Mars reign to a very short interval, yet that seems pivotal in the US political
    upheaval scenario, the 22 March date for Saint Paul of Narbonne figuring in IX.64 (where no resistance can be made) and III.92. The fascism consummates its full betrayal of the democratic ideal the following year, using V.23 to obtain the 6 April 2024
    bucket configuration featuring Mars at one end - the prophecy then has the US ceasing to be sovereign as the Young Empire, transforming into a subservient Brother or Satellite Nation.

    The Miracle is not merely an ectoplasmic spectacle, becoming dislodged to act as Henoch's Sword, driving the wicked into the Abyss that opens in both dimensions, before the chasm closes over them. The first part of V.42 alludes to the timing for
    that fateful activation (Mars ominously at 15 degrees, projected with yet another Grand Trine), while seeming to discuss the historic 1495 invasion by Charles VIII causing the Savoyards to retreat to Turin.

    From August 2023 there may be US conflict with Iran in delayed retaliation, reaching a notable milestone in late October 2023, foretold in IV.95 and IX.55, when Mars and Mercury will oppose Jupiter and the Moon.

    The Chastisement is not conditional if summarized in VI.35, and deduced for the upcoming instance when Mars and Jupiter will conjoin with the South Node, as the time for a solar coronal mass ejection aimed towards the Great Plains region as its
    primary target.

    While John Lennon was receiving backstage tips on playing the harmonica from Delbert McClintock who had performed on Bruce Channel's record, the young girl visionaries at Garabandal were enduring The Night Of Screams, reacting with horror to their
    Marian vision of the future Chastisement, when heat would become so intense people would rush to the ocean en masse for relief, only to find it scalding hot.
    The Geneva vigil was to last about seven months in V.81, likely counting from the 16 July 2022 conditions compared to IV.31; the Epistle passage focusing on a translation made regarding October probably inferred acknowledging the noted foretold
    sequence of events following the 25 October 2022 solar eclipse. A prudent listing would include the Pelosi hammer attack, Seoul Halloween crowd crush, Griner-Bout prisoner exchange, Brasilia insurrection, Nepal plane crash, and Turkey-Syria border
    sibling quakes, among other major news events, with accurate sequencing and confirmatory hagiology and judicial astrology.

    The obvious meaning for Saturnin would be during the Reign of Saturn (as first to make an aspect for the lunar course), which would include the 10 March 2023 11:41 pm CET Grand Trine of Saturn-Moon-Vertex for Geneva, probably hinted in V.18 line 2,
    with the ironic celebration being the Chiron-Vesta-Jupiter grouping around 14 degrees Aries. The second line of II.92 indicating struck from the High-Born implies a time after the 2 March 2023 Venus-Jupiter conjunct, which occurs after the noted Grand
    Trines; the marvelous case could be the synchronized trio convergence. The contrast debases Venus by exclusion: the lines imply Jupiter hosting a party soon after meeting daughter Venus, inviting Chiron and Vesta instead.

    The relevant terms should be reapplied, with the recent configurations as potential subtext, still expecting cataclysmic onset timed at the Geneva chart appearance of some Grand Trine; the Balance would revert to being the 17 November 2022 12:47 am
    CET Venusian Nadir with the Solar-Fulcrum Grand Trine as the Mobile Sign due to its rotation. This focus on 16-17 November 2022 presents an intervening situation for the two Saturnin revolts of I.54, of which the first manifested with 6 January 2021
    ending the long cycle. Presuming the cataclysm neatly occurs between the two revolts of Saturn seems erroneous: more likely when the negative energy has its recurrence, the karmic rebound effect would generate the cataclysm in tandem - thus the second
    commitment to political iniquity attributed to Saturn should have a corresponding punishing role for Saturn, happening together, or nearly so.

    The conditions for 2 March 2023 were fulfillments using the featured Grand Trine key, plausibly as esoteric precursors, towards the 10 March 2023 Saturn-Moon-Vertex instance during the Saturnin Reign (which commences circa 7 March 2023). The phrasing
    of I.62's final line suggests the punishing fire and flood will not be to forestall the recurrence of the long cycle, possibly insinuating the Geneva Explosive Hail being synchronized with the subsequent Saturnin Reign in its initial long cycle again
    coinciding with a second-attempt coup for the US, which finds no resistance circa 22-25 March 2023 from the IX.64 Mars Narbonne illumination.

    The relevant hagiology for the 10 March date was considered more than twenty years ago, focusing on Saint Macarius for the sepulchral-tomb inferences of VIII.34 and X.6.

    15 March 2000:

    https://groups.google.com/g/alt.prophecies.nostradamus/c/JQ1ZeIPxtS0/m/W42vYx6mEOIJ

    << 10 March St. Macarius was honoured, who was commissioned by Constantine to construct a church over the Holy Sepulcher (he died soon after the basilica was consecrated in 335). >>

    23 February 2001:

    https://groups.google.com/g/alt.prophecies.nostradamus/c/ycGQk-Yl-ek/m/cQO9h83ACx8J

    << 10 March ... St. Macarius as builder of the Church of the Holy Sepulcher could relate to X.6,
    mentioning Vesta in the same line. Also feastday for a martyr named Victor who may figure in VI.70. >>

    Several Grand Trines involving Saturn for Geneva since the 16 July 2022 2:06 am CEST post-Super Full Moon instance have appeared characterized, particularly in December 2022: the Saint Lucy's feast day 13 December 2022 4:46 pm CET Dusk Fortune jump
    from Saturn at Midheaven into a Saturnin Grand Trine for IX.68, compounding the Grand Trine of Pluto-Ceres-East Point, illuminating the divine command to mix the cup for Babylon double, during a Venusian reign; and the 18 December 2022 4:22 pm CET Grand
    Trine of Moon-Saturn-Ascendant, which shortly preceded the shifting Offspring Grand Trine formed with Fortune in succession as Venus-Node-Fortune progressing to Mercury-Ouranos-Fortune - this fulfilled IV.58 line 3, where the 'Chief pail of water leads
    its son in spinning,' confirmed by the final line signifying the prisoner exchange releasing female captive Griner, set at the adjacent 7 December feast for saints of Antioch.

    Since conceptual points with localized calculations are involved, certain Grand Trines would only be evident by selecting the Geneva location and observing chart animation over the significant intervals.

    The Saturn-Fortune-Vertex Grand Trine 22 February 2023 10:47 am CET was configured like the 16 July 2022 instance, both with Saturn at the Eleventh House cusp Apex: 22 February via Saint Paschasius related to Vienne for IX.69, where no identifying
    elements were given; Saturn was near the Moon 16 July 2022, yet near the Sun 22 February 2023 - thus the latter situation presented IX.44, of Saturn with the golden solar presence, approaching some catalytic participation. The emptiness of Vienne in IX.
    69 was concealed by a variant coding for Vienne in IX.70, alluding to 23 May 2023 via Saint Desiderius.

    A further milestone was during the 1-2 March 2023 condition: a Saturn-Moon-Midheaven Grand Trine appeared 1 March 2023 3:48 am CET was presumed to be a falsifying Cupbearer arriving in the wake of the Turkey-Syria border sibling quakes of 6 February
    2023, according to VI.89; then Fortune and the Ascendant were plotted to form successive Grand Trines with Saturn (1 March 2023 10:30 pm CET, coinciding with a Grand Trine of Sun-Moon-East Point), then Neptune (2 March 2023 12:47 am CET, synchronized
    with the Moon nearing closely-occurring solar trine and Pallas conjunct), and finally Vesta (2 March 2023 2:09 am CET, precisely coinciding with the Sun-Moon trine).

    The Solar-Lunar trine being featured during the 1-2 March 2023 sequence complied with V.66 hinting 'From Sun and Moon,' alluding to this conspicuous integration rather than promising such an aspect would be itself critical.

    The doubling of the Grand Trine with Saturn appeared ominous; the Neptunian Grand Trine was noted for its lunar perplexity in III.3; and the Vestal version completing the sequence could be indicated in the final line of X.6, 'Vesta - sepulchral
    extinguishing fire to appear,' which technically projects towards a further date, playing on the fire goddess identity.

    The conjunction of Venus and Jupiter as the High-Born ones of II.92 occurred 2 March 2023 6:22 am CET (12 degrees 8 minutes Aries), providing an astronomical display of two bright lights appearing closely in the night sky, as the subject of media
    coverage. The unusual combination of being both widow and virgin from VIII.80 applied to Saint Cunegundes (975-1040) with the 3 March feast.

    Saturn enters Pisces 7 March 2023 2:35 pm CET, commencing the presumably critical 'Saturnin Reign': this fateful Saturnin interval concludes when Juno enters Taurus 11 March 2023 5:16 pm CET.

    So the 10 March 2023 11:41 pm CET Saturn-Moon-Vertex Grand Trine now seems the elusive trigger for cataclysmic onset in Geneva, with the quirk that Jupiter will no longer be united with Venus, but in a new grouping with Chiron and Vesta around 14
    degrees Aries, signifying the sardonic celebration synchronized with Sacrifice in V.18, insinuating the Trinitarian co-founder Felix of Valois potentially dying forlorn with grief, despite his feast being in November, since the inference is more complex.

    On 10 March 2023, the Moon will be a few days beyond the Full Moon, similar to the 16 July 2022 condition.

    The hagiological associations for 10 March include: Saint Macharius, bishop of Jerusalem from 313, discoverer of the True Cross with Saint Helena, mother of Emperor Constantine - the Emperor commissioned Macharius to build the Church of the Holy
    Sepulcher, potentially related to the 'sepulchral' hint of X.6; Saint Victor, a martyr during the Trajan persecution of 250, recalling the 'sole title Victor' in the final line of VI.70; and Saint Anastasius the Patrician was a legendary Lady-In-Waiting
    leaving the court of Emperor Justinian in Constantinople for a convent in Alexandria, fleeing further into the desert when Empress Theodora died and Justinian sought her, ultimately allowed to dress as a monk to live in seclusion for another 28 years -
    Anastasius could be the Lady honored through force of terror in I.94 (the 'new Mars' for vengeance and remorse arrives later, as the brief Martian Reign of 25 March 2032).

    The 11 March feast had a previously noted connection with Milan (in the Lombard region) for the 2011 Japanese quake.

    https://groups.google.com/g/alt.prophecies.nostradamus/c/RvMu5LF9iME/m/GLDOs6QObaIJ

    << The extremely powerful 8.9 quake struck northern Japan on 11 March at 2:46 p.m. locally, about 15 minutes after the Moon entered Gemini (in trine with Pallas). That 11 March date is feast day for Saint Benedict Crispus, Archbishop of Milan... >>

    The same date returning in 2023 seems to provide the Lombardy allusion for V.42 and VI.16, no longer encoded for Milan. Saint Benedict Crispus died in 725, after 45 years as Archbishop.

    Other hagiological associations for 11 March include: Saint Pionus of Smyrna brings the Myrrh factor for the implicit Magi Gift Attack scenario from II.92, V.16 and VIII.34; Saint Alberta of Agen (died circa 286) brings an association with Gaul for X.
    58; and Saint Sophronius has a story that embellishes the V.18 hint about dying forlorn from grief - the capture of Jerusalem in 637 so saddened Sophronius that death from grief occurred the following year.

    *

    “I have yet many things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now. When the Spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all the truth:
    For he will not speak on his own authority,
    But whatever he HEARS he will speak,
    And he will declare to you the things that ARE TO COME.

    He will glorify Me,
    For he will take what is Mine and DECLARE it to you...

    In that day you will ask nothing of Me."

    [John 16]
    This post on my Dylagence blog references the Japan earthquake. It is also possible that this quake has some kind of connection to John and Yoko...

    https://dylagence.wordpress.com/2021/03/12/a-possible-connection-in-the-vortex-odd-references-in-bob-dylans-my-own-version-of-you/

    Pamela

    The implications behind the guiding quatrain lines inform projections towards inevitable fulfillment, as some resonate with observed conditions. The logical parameters are stressed, presumptions are confounded, yet the precision could be a resource: in
    specifying 'reign and cycles' in I.54 line 2, applied to the March 2023 Saturnin intervals, there is an initial Saturnin Reign of about four days (7 to 11 March), then the slightly longer second cycle after Juno intercedes (12 to 16 March), before a
    final brief cycle emerging from an ensuing Venusian Reign, which is curtailed by retrograding Ceres (about half an hour 17-18 March CET).

    The 17 March situation has Venus in Taurus and Saturn in Pisces locked in a 60-degree sextile aspect both at one degree eleven minutes in their respective signs from 11:09 pm to 11:28 pm CET - however the Vertex passing through Cancer forms a Pediment at
    11:22 pm CET. This compressed triangular variant to the Grand Trine could explain the distinction between the falsifying Cupbearer before the Chalice that is tried in VI.89. Venus will be at the Pediment Peak at the Sixth House cusp in a sextile with
    both Saturn and the Vertex like her wings on either side; Saturn is in a trine with the Vertex, which is in a square aspect with Ceres in Libra, only a minute of a degree more advanced than the relative location of the Saturn-Venus sextile. This returns
    to the VIII.96 and X.17 lines for Babylon having her wings of sadness and misery clipped on a Friday.

    The equilateral Grand Trine being a Cup was not the configuration for the obtuse isosceles Pediment Chalice, considering VI.89.

    The Vertex could be implied by the 'vitrix' of V.18, and also the inconveniently-placed fast-moving sign of I.54.

    Le mobile signe a son endroit si ingere
    Aux deux egaux et d'inclination

    The movable symbol in its placement so intrusive
    To the two equals of similar inclination

    The two equals of similar inclination appear to be Saturn and Venus, in mythological Saturn is her grandfather, father to her father Jupiter: when they are locked into their sextile, the Vertex swoops swiftly through the position that forms the Pediment.
    It is a different concept from the two Saturnin revolts in the first portion, esoterically describing the cataclysmic astrological imprint. So it also could present the High-Born collusion of II.92, where Venus will be debased into the final brief
    Saturnin cycle. The Pediment appearance makes for a 'marvelous case,' where the points connect into a triangle applicable to the Trinity.

    On the 6 February feast for two nephews of Saint Patrick there were sibling quakes at the Turkey-Syria border: the first had a chart showing a missed Grand Square, which relates to the elusive Four-Leafed Clover; the next-born ('puis-ne) second quake
    arrived with a Grand Trine of three points, like the typical clover leaves. Saint Patrick in his preaching forty years in Ireland used the Shamrock as a natural affirmation of the Trinity, which could be transposed to the Pediment manifestation on his 17
    March 2023 feast (date of his death in 461). The Saturn-Venus-Vertex Pediment can be drawn as a compressed triangle for the Chalice; the Vertex in a trine with Saturn, and a square with Ceres, clips the proper 'wings.'

    Another striking and ominous hagiological association is the 18 March feast for Saint Narcissus, bishop of Gerona, Catalonia, Spain, martyred circa 307: when Philip II of Burgundy laid siege to Gerona in 1286, his troops desecrated the tomb of Narcissus -
    when it broke open, an enormous cloud of stinging flies emerged, and chased the soldiers, causing the French to depart the city posthaste. Thus 'wasps and flies' from VI.89 could provide another significant 2023 date, with the Paternal devotion between
    Saturn and grandchild Venus vexed by the intrusion of the Vertex.

    The Saturnin cycle ensuing from the Pediment triggering configuration ends with the Ceres Reign 18 March 12:05 am CET, a timespan of approximately forty-three minutes for enduring the worst (V.24).

    Saintly persons with a connection to Lombardy appear frequently in the calendar, for 19 March there is Blessed Sibyllina of Pavia, an orphan who became blind, living as a hermitess (1287-1367), who was found incorrupt in 1854. The recent confluences
    constituting fulfillments should be explored further to clarify presumed intent more precisely, but the judicial astrology is clear enough to deduce an ominous quality to the 17 March 2023 11:22 pm CET [6:22 pm EDT / 3:22 pm PDT] Saturnin Pediment for
    the Venusian Debasement.

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    Numerous events have manifested as a series of precursors for the double cataclysm of fire and flood since the 25 October 2022 solar eclipse: the Pelosi home invasion hammer attack (X.35, V.66); the Seoul Halloween crowd crush (X.28); the Colorado
    Springs nightclub shooting (as a Tavern at Lombardy via Saint Benignus); the 8 December Griner-Bout prisoner exchange (IV.58 etc); the inclusion of an extreme faction in the new US House majority inclined to disavow the national debt (V.42 for 19 January
    2023 as Lombardy via Saint Bassian); the Great Mercury flowering of US lies in Brazil for their insurrection, overtaking the presidential palace before massive capture, the day after a Mercury solar conjunct (X.79, V.66); and the plane crash in Nepal
    into a gorge whose name was properly transliterated as 'Bristle,' with Lyons-Marseilles hints for Saint Bonitus with the 15 January feast (I.72, X.88).

    The Western entreaty of X.58 by Ukraine for tanks against the Russian invasion has very recently received the desired response expeditiously.
    The Great Urn of X.50 appears to be Solar Grand Trine with Ceres and Mars that will be of sustained duration, like the instance circa 16 November 2022 - that sort of triangular Cup configuration should also be a potential Mobile Sign for I.54,
    rotating over time in the chart orientation. Thus despite its technical imperfection, the persistence of the Triangular Form throughout the time of the cataclysmic disruption is the relevant factor.

    The first establishing milestone for this Urn is the Ceres solar trine at 6 degrees 45 minutes (in Libra for Ceres, Aquarius for the Sun) 27 January 2023 around 1 am CET.

    The second foundational aspect is the Mars solar trine at 9 degrees 52 minutes (with Mars in Gemini) 30 January 2023 at 2:19 am CET; Ceres then will be at 6 degrees 53 minutes Libra.
    So the Sun consummates its role in the Ceres-Mars Solar Grand Trine over a three-day interval.
    The 4.2 magnitude tremor striking Malibu, CA, around 2 am PST 25 January 2023 was widely felt with little damage, the timing suggesting the Higher Powers providing esoteric assistance in the cataclysmic onset scheduling: the Moon had decisively
    passed the Neptune-Vesta passage test interval from the Vesta lunar conjunct 12:42 am PST - the minor quake over an hour later had the Moon advanced by less than a degree, however then in trine with the Ascendant. Another potential 'hint' in the Malibu
    quake chart is Fortune with Ceres, possibly spotlighting the Solar Grand Trine, which has yet to enter its primary stage.

    Saturn, then Venus, rising for Geneva during the interval between the Neptune and Vesta lunar conjuncts was an ominous synchronization: Saturn reigning during the US Capitol riot now appears in a different role, heralding the arrival of Venus, who
    being debased seems to deserve appearing on the horizon when the explosive onset occurs, in contrast with Mercury having the same local Ascendant position during the 11 September 2001 attacks being described as 'insulted by warlike noise.'

    Since the Neptune-Vesta simple lunar passage theory is discarded, the III.3 perplexity is deduced again for the 10 January 2023 2:52 am CET Saturn lunar opposition - the timing matches the enumeration of the other Corinth-Ephesus quatrain (II.52).
    Saturn in Aquarius was then in the lunar-substitute 'two seas' condition with Neptune in Pisces, although not in precise adjacency; Neptune had its lunar quincunx earlier at 2:13 am CET, a 150-degree angle for the perplexity. The inference is that Saturn'
    s known future role in the debasement of Venus scenario from X.28 is being telegraphed via judicial astrology, following the 2 November 2022 7:38 am CET situation, where Venus was at the Ascendant while the genuine 'two seas' adjacency existed for the
    Moon and Neptune, presenting the fateful false rapport with Venus.

    The Chiron lunar conjunct 26 January 2023 5:16 pm CET appears to match part of VI.70.

    For 27 January 2023 in Geneva using CET:

    12:42 am - Ceres solar trine commences, as the primary stage of the Great Urn protracted triangular formation with Mars;

    3:33 am - Venus enters Pisces, beginning her fateful reign, which will end surpassing the relative position of Lilith 28 January 2023 11:35 pm CET - Venus reigning as Mystery Babylon should be a requirement for a proper debasement;

    8:57 am - Saturn at the Ascendant, synchronized with Fortune at the Node;

    9:08 am - Venus at the Ascendant, with the Part of Fortune advanced to Ouranos - this is the critical time presumed for the initial explosive fiery portion of the cataclysm -

    << 27 January 2023 9:08 am CET / 3:08 am EST / 12:08 am PST >>;

    10 am - Vesta at the Ascendant, while Fortune is near Mars - this could be the X.6 prediction of 'Vesta sepulchral fire' without requiring a lunar aspect.

    The lunar conjunct subsequent to Chiron is with Ouranos 29 January 2023 4:37 am CET, again potentially relating to VI.70 for 'surpassing the Heavens.' The first part of VI.70 seems to indicate the Chiron solar trine of 4 December 2022 occurring the
    day after the Chiron lunar conjunct; the second portion appears to depict the later apocalyptic explosion as having noise and light surpassing The Heavens, with the cryptic Victor comment plausibly relating to the Russian-specified 8 December 2022
    prisoner exchange of Viktor Bout for Brittney Griner in the final line.

    The secondary phase of the Solar Grand Trine as Great Urn is the Mars solar trine 30 January 2023 2:19 am CET, ending its official aspects.

    January 27 is feast for Saint Gilduin (d. 1071), Canon of Dol in Brittany (IV.95).

    The 28th could be Toulouse via Saint Thomas Aquinas (IX.9).

    Beheaded Saint Sabinian of Troyes (d. 295) could be used for linking 29 January 2023 with the trembling Gaul of X.58.

    The Three Holy Hierarchs for 30 January could explain the Bible-reading of V.83 and Great Basil reclaimed of VI.78, yet that is also feast for Saint Armentarius (d. 451) a bishop of Pavia, in the Lombard region. Double meanings could apply for the
    Lombardy lines.

    La gent Lombarde fera si grande effroi
    A ceux de l'Aigle compris sous la Balance
    The Lombard folk will be made so greatly afraid
    By those included under the Balance for Eagal

    The Venusian Nadir in my Geneva vigil is nothing anyone could witness - naming myself as judicial astrologer confirmed the 17 November 2022 12:47 am CET chart synchronized with the US announcement of Republican House chamber majority was the subject;
    the debt limit ceiling being reached on 19 January 2023, feast for Lombard Saint Bassian, appeared to be inferred, since the extreme faction that had been included are viewed as unlikely to affirm the national credit without essentially extorting major
    changes that would not be otherwise granted.

    Reading the same lines for Saint Armentarius having a cataclysm coincide with his 30 January feast also makes sense, if translating the preposition starting line 2 as 'As' instead of 'By' (both are allowable): there is trepidation over the debt limit
    conflict circa 19 January 2023 due to a political group included 16 November 2022 (the 'By those' case); yet visceral terror could prevail when the Lombard folk themselves are included 'As those' under the different Solar Grand Trine Balance of 30
    January 2023.

    Les noirs du temple du lieu de Negrisilve
    Feront auberge et feu de Lombardie

    The dark ones of the Temple in the Black Forest place
    Will make for Lombardy both Tavern and Fire

    The Tavern precursor for VI.16 was the Colorado Springs nightclub shooting at 20 November 2022, feast of Lombard Saint Benignus. The dark ones of the Temple are the angels administering the Cup of Divine Wrath - this is an illumination confirming the
    Geneva LHC near the Black Forest as the source for the subsequent punishing Fire event, which is also scheduled for a date with a Lombard saint commemoration, now presumed as Armentarius for 30 January 2023. My translation adds the word 'both' to suggest
    the event separation, although for clarity the angels with the sinister task would be concerned with the Fire event, probably as a sardonic response to the Tavern incident not of their making.

    The Trajan lamp of V.66 was martyred-by-burning Saint Nemesius from 19 December 2022, when found as IX.9 required at the end of a Vestal Reign; Nimes perishing by water could be a literal result of the flooding element, while the markets falling at
    Toulouse implies financial collapse. The Trajan Lamp having engraving with gold could regard the catastrophic fire of II.92.
    Thanks for the quote. I wonder when the band's end began to feel like a real possibility to the lads. With Brian Epstein's death?

    Bob Eubanks was recently on the radio explaining that Brian Epstein limited ticket prices for The Beatles' concerts to seven dollars maximum, also mentioning the lack of merchandising, which resulted from attempting to litigate a bad deal that disrupted
    production and distribution. Eubanks also recalled having to explain to Debbie Reynolds that John Lennon was with Lauren Bacall, and they had decided neither of them wanted to meet Reynolds.

    The Beatles and Epstein shared a desire to promote the group as a touring phenomenon, however as the group became more controversial there were increasingly disturbing incidents, beyond the typical mayhem generated by excessive adulation - the Manila
    debacle in particular had the group discussing Epstein's culpability.

    The Lombardy usage in V.42 and VI.16 suggests a different saint from Milan's Benedict Crispus, and thus a different calendar feast date.

    Since the 25 October 2022 solar eclipse a succession of events have figured into Nostradamus' precursors to a fire-and-flood cataclysm karmically linked to the 6 January 2021 Capitol insurrection: the hammer attack on Paul Pelosi was indicated; also the
    Griner-Bout prisoner exchange, Nepal plane crash, and sibling quakes at the Turkey-Syria border were among the predicted events. Saturn's entry into Aquarius, its first progression since the Capitol riot, has recently concluded its reign and cycles on 17
    March 2023, however its current post-lunar conjunct interval could present the ominous 'Saturnin' condition.

    Pluto will be returning to its Revolutionary War position, entering Aquarius thrice again with two retrogrades, first on 23 March 2023; the curtailed Mars Reign on 25 March 2023 is foretold as timing for a second coup, to which no resistance is made.

    If the VI.89 sequence from the 18 March 2023 'wasps and flies' commences with Saint Narcissus (invaders desecrating his Gerona tomb were driven from the town by a cloud of stinging flies), Saturn's grandfatherly paternal love for Venus being vexed by the
    Vertex as in I.54 seems related.

    The phrasing of I.54 suggesting two equals of an inclination being intruded upon matches the Vertex Pediment quirk for the Venus-Saturn sextile 17 March 2023 11:22 pm CET; the Vertex being involved later is indicated, as with the 'vitrix' of V.18 for the
    massive slaughter of Hecatombe. If the Cupbearer is Saturn for the lunar conjunct opening a Saturnin interval, the falsifying instance should be the imperfect Cup formed 19 March 2023 6:55 pm CET - the Vertex in mutual adjacency with Saturn and Venus was
    coincidental: there was Mars-Midheaven ambiguity, and a mismatch between Fortune and the Saturn-Moon trine positions for the Grand Trine component; also the Pediment had a strong Saturn-Midheaven trine a few degrees out of step with Venus as the Crest.

    The strongest trine potential for making a Grand version with the Vertex is between Ceres retrograding out of Libra (zero degrees 32 minutes Libra), and Pluto nearing Aquarius (29 degrees 57 minutes Capricorn): the Pluto-Ceres-Vertex Grand Trine forms 20
    March 2023 9:12 pm CET for Geneva, as an Inverted Balanced Cup form, with Pluto as the Fulcrum close to the skewed Nadir - as an Arrow it points decidedly downwards in orientation; the Descendant will then be between fallen Vesta (V.65), and Venus
    setting as Evening Star; the Moon will still be in the post-Saturn-conjunct field; and the Sun will not enter Aries to interrupt the Ceres Reign until 10:25 pm CET.

    During the Pluto-Ceres-Vertex Grand Trine the East Point will be merged with the Part of Fortune around ten degrees Scorpio.

    The next lunar aspect would be Pisces Moon in adjacency with Vesta in Aries, both at 18 degrees 14 minutes in their respective signs, 20 March 2023 9:46 pm CET, which could be the meaning of the incendiary lady engulfed by the true flame in VI.19. Venus
    reaches the Descendant a few minutes later at 9:49 pm CET. So X.6 probably indicates this Vesta lunar adjacency aspect, rather than the later lunar conjunct.

    The debasement of Venus would be in her slow descent towards the Ecliptic during the Saturnin cataclysmic onset, a cosmic fall in disgrace, followed by Juno and the Node. The ensuing Solar Reign may correspond to the burning Sun swallowed in IV.58; the
    Ceres Reign resumes 21 March 2023 8:53 am CET, less than half an hour before the Neptunian lunar conjunct (9:20 am CET) for the Corinth-Ephesus perplexity of III.3. Then the New Moon matches 'Sol et Lune' from V.66 for 21 March 2023 6:23 pm CET.

    The reference to trembling Gaul in X.58 could be for the 20 March feast honoring Saint Clement of Ireland (750-818), who arrived in Gaul 772, residing for a time in the court of Charlemagne.

    Blessed Sibyllina of Pavia has commemoration on 19 March for the Lombardy element (V.42 and VI.16).

    The second line from II.92 would have a clear meaning with activation on this schedule -

    Frappe du haut ne, fait cas merveilleux

    Struck from the High-Born, marvelous case manifested

    The High-Born one would be Saturn, of the mythical Titan race, indicating the Saturnin interval ensuing from its lunar conjunct 19 March 2023 6:27 pm CET.

    The manifestation of the 'marvelous case' should be the 17 March 11:22 pm CET Saturn-Venus-Vertex Pediment in the Geneva chart, further depicted in the latter portion of I.54.

    The Balance of V.42 should mean the Ceres Reign for Libra, focusing on the constellation, and thereby avoiding the more explicit description of the asteroid, that involved the 11 January 2020 convergence as portents of the pandemic, as in III.75.

    Considering the 20 March 9:12 pm CET Pluto-Ceres-Vertex Grand Trine as the Chalice tried in VI.89, the theme of V.65 appears the subtlety of the fateful indicators: the hidden principals of the affair locally for Geneva would exclude likely visible Ceres,
    with Pluto beneath the Ecliptic, and the Vertex conceptual. The final line implies the fury of the Higher Powers having been compounded by progressive degrees culminating in this concealed sort of punishing expression: although Vesta is a key figure,
    having her spotlight moment with lunar adjacency about half an hour after the Chalice may be tried with her infamous extinguishing fire motif, she has been relegated to positioning beneath the Ecliptic, conspicuously out of view for this Sacrificial
    event. Also below the horizon for Geneva then would be Saturn, the Moon, Neptune and the Sun.

    *

    On "Meet The Press" a story was recounted attributed to Ben Barnes (D) former Texas Lt. Gov., about a trip he took in the summer of 1980 with John Connally (R) Texas Governor in the Middle East: Barnes apparently alleged that Connally had requested local
    leaders relay to Iran that holding onto their American hostages would be preferable to releasing them, obviously since their release could be a positive thing for the Carter campaign - Connally was said to have argued that Reagan would be better than
    Carter to justify this nefarious strategy. Barnes further asserted that upon their return, there was a meeting with the Reagan campaign chairman. Host Chuck Todd lamented the inability to interview those who were named as involved, while noting that the
    Iranian hostages were released on Reagan's Inaugural Day.

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  • From Curtis Eagal@21:1/5 to RJKe...@yahoo.com on Sun Mar 19 15:59:19 2023
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    Numerous events have manifested as a series of precursors for the double cataclysm of fire and flood since the 25 October 2022 solar eclipse: the Pelosi home invasion hammer attack (X.35, V.66); the Seoul Halloween crowd crush (X.28); the Colorado
    Springs nightclub shooting (as a Tavern at Lombardy via Saint Benignus); the 8 December Griner-Bout prisoner exchange (IV.58 etc); the inclusion of an extreme faction in the new US House majority inclined to disavow the national debt (V.42 for 19 January
    2023 as Lombardy via Saint Bassian); the Great Mercury flowering of US lies in Brazil for their insurrection, overtaking the presidential palace before massive capture, the day after a Mercury solar conjunct (X.79, V.66); and the plane crash in Nepal
    into a gorge whose name was properly transliterated as 'Bristle,' with Lyons-Marseilles hints for Saint Bonitus with the 15 January feast (I.72, X.88).

    The Western entreaty of X.58 by Ukraine for tanks against the Russian invasion has very recently received the desired response expeditiously.
    The Great Urn of X.50 appears to be Solar Grand Trine with Ceres and Mars that will be of sustained duration, like the instance circa 16 November 2022 - that sort of triangular Cup configuration should also be a potential Mobile Sign for I.54,
    rotating over time in the chart orientation. Thus despite its technical imperfection, the persistence of the Triangular Form throughout the time of the cataclysmic disruption is the relevant factor.

    The first establishing milestone for this Urn is the Ceres solar trine at 6 degrees 45 minutes (in Libra for Ceres, Aquarius for the Sun) 27 January 2023 around 1 am CET.

    The second foundational aspect is the Mars solar trine at 9 degrees 52 minutes (with Mars in Gemini) 30 January 2023 at 2:19 am CET; Ceres then will be at 6 degrees 53 minutes Libra.
    So the Sun consummates its role in the Ceres-Mars Solar Grand Trine over a three-day interval.
    The 4.2 magnitude tremor striking Malibu, CA, around 2 am PST 25 January 2023 was widely felt with little damage, the timing suggesting the Higher Powers providing esoteric assistance in the cataclysmic onset scheduling: the Moon had decisively
    passed the Neptune-Vesta passage test interval from the Vesta lunar conjunct 12:42 am PST - the minor quake over an hour later had the Moon advanced by less than a degree, however then in trine with the Ascendant. Another potential 'hint' in the Malibu
    quake chart is Fortune with Ceres, possibly spotlighting the Solar Grand Trine, which has yet to enter its primary stage.

    Saturn, then Venus, rising for Geneva during the interval between the Neptune and Vesta lunar conjuncts was an ominous synchronization: Saturn reigning during the US Capitol riot now appears in a different role, heralding the arrival of Venus, who
    being debased seems to deserve appearing on the horizon when the explosive onset occurs, in contrast with Mercury having the same local Ascendant position during the 11 September 2001 attacks being described as 'insulted by warlike noise.'

    Since the Neptune-Vesta simple lunar passage theory is discarded, the III.3 perplexity is deduced again for the 10 January 2023 2:52 am CET Saturn lunar opposition - the timing matches the enumeration of the other Corinth-Ephesus quatrain (II.52).
    Saturn in Aquarius was then in the lunar-substitute 'two seas' condition with Neptune in Pisces, although not in precise adjacency; Neptune had its lunar quincunx earlier at 2:13 am CET, a 150-degree angle for the perplexity. The inference is that Saturn'
    s known future role in the debasement of Venus scenario from X.28 is being telegraphed via judicial astrology, following the 2 November 2022 7:38 am CET situation, where Venus was at the Ascendant while the genuine 'two seas' adjacency existed for the
    Moon and Neptune, presenting the fateful false rapport with Venus.

    The Chiron lunar conjunct 26 January 2023 5:16 pm CET appears to match part of VI.70.

    For 27 January 2023 in Geneva using CET:

    12:42 am - Ceres solar trine commences, as the primary stage of the Great Urn protracted triangular formation with Mars;

    3:33 am - Venus enters Pisces, beginning her fateful reign, which will end surpassing the relative position of Lilith 28 January 2023 11:35 pm CET - Venus reigning as Mystery Babylon should be a requirement for a proper debasement;

    8:57 am - Saturn at the Ascendant, synchronized with Fortune at the Node;

    9:08 am - Venus at the Ascendant, with the Part of Fortune advanced to Ouranos - this is the critical time presumed for the initial explosive fiery portion of the cataclysm -

    << 27 January 2023 9:08 am CET / 3:08 am EST / 12:08 am PST >>;

    10 am - Vesta at the Ascendant, while Fortune is near Mars - this could be the X.6 prediction of 'Vesta sepulchral fire' without requiring a lunar aspect.

    The lunar conjunct subsequent to Chiron is with Ouranos 29 January 2023 4:37 am CET, again potentially relating to VI.70 for 'surpassing the Heavens.' The first part of VI.70 seems to indicate the Chiron solar trine of 4 December 2022 occurring the
    day after the Chiron lunar conjunct; the second portion appears to depict the later apocalyptic explosion as having noise and light surpassing The Heavens, with the cryptic Victor comment plausibly relating to the Russian-specified 8 December 2022
    prisoner exchange of Viktor Bout for Brittney Griner in the final line.

    The secondary phase of the Solar Grand Trine as Great Urn is the Mars solar trine 30 January 2023 2:19 am CET, ending its official aspects.

    January 27 is feast for Saint Gilduin (d. 1071), Canon of Dol in Brittany (IV.95).

    The 28th could be Toulouse via Saint Thomas Aquinas (IX.9).

    Beheaded Saint Sabinian of Troyes (d. 295) could be used for linking 29 January 2023 with the trembling Gaul of X.58.

    The Three Holy Hierarchs for 30 January could explain the Bible-reading of V.83 and Great Basil reclaimed of VI.78, yet that is also feast for Saint Armentarius (d. 451) a bishop of Pavia, in the Lombard region. Double meanings could apply for the
    Lombardy lines.

    La gent Lombarde fera si grande effroi
    A ceux de l'Aigle compris sous la Balance
    The Lombard folk will be made so greatly afraid
    By those included under the Balance for Eagal

    The Venusian Nadir in my Geneva vigil is nothing anyone could witness - naming myself as judicial astrologer confirmed the 17 November 2022 12:47 am CET chart synchronized with the US announcement of Republican House chamber majority was the subject;
    the debt limit ceiling being reached on 19 January 2023, feast for Lombard Saint Bassian, appeared to be inferred, since the extreme faction that had been included are viewed as unlikely to affirm the national credit without essentially extorting major
    changes that would not be otherwise granted.

    Reading the same lines for Saint Armentarius having a cataclysm coincide with his 30 January feast also makes sense, if translating the preposition starting line 2 as 'As' instead of 'By' (both are allowable): there is trepidation over the debt limit
    conflict circa 19 January 2023 due to a political group included 16 November 2022 (the 'By those' case); yet visceral terror could prevail when the Lombard folk themselves are included 'As those' under the different Solar Grand Trine Balance of 30
    January 2023.

    Les noirs du temple du lieu de Negrisilve
    Feront auberge et feu de Lombardie

    The dark ones of the Temple in the Black Forest place
    Will make for Lombardy both Tavern and Fire

    The Tavern precursor for VI.16 was the Colorado Springs nightclub shooting at 20 November 2022, feast of Lombard Saint Benignus. The dark ones of the Temple are the angels administering the Cup of Divine Wrath - this is an illumination confirming the
    Geneva LHC near the Black Forest as the source for the subsequent punishing Fire event, which is also scheduled for a date with a Lombard saint commemoration, now presumed as Armentarius for 30 January 2023. My translation adds the word 'both' to suggest
    the event separation, although for clarity the angels with the sinister task would be concerned with the Fire event, probably as a sardonic response to the Tavern incident not of their making.

    The Trajan lamp of V.66 was martyred-by-burning Saint Nemesius from 19 December 2022, when found as IX.9 required at the end of a Vestal Reign; Nimes perishing by water could be a literal result of the flooding element, while the markets falling at
    Toulouse implies financial collapse. The Trajan Lamp having engraving with gold could regard the catastrophic fire of II.92.
    Thanks for the quote. I wonder when the band's end began to feel like a real possibility to the lads. With Brian Epstein's death?

    Bob Eubanks was recently on the radio explaining that Brian Epstein limited ticket prices for The Beatles' concerts to seven dollars maximum, also mentioning the lack of merchandising, which resulted from attempting to litigate a bad deal that disrupted
    production and distribution. Eubanks also recalled having to explain to Debbie Reynolds that John Lennon was with Lauren Bacall, and they had decided neither of them wanted to meet Reynolds.

    The Lombardy usage in V.42 and VI.16 suggests a different saint from Milan's Benedict Crispus, and thus a different calendar feast date.

    Since the 25 October 2020 solar eclipse a succession of events have figured into Nostradamus' precursors to a fire-and-flood cataclysm karmically linked to the 6 January 2021 Capitol insurrection: the hammer attack on Paul Pelosi was indicated; also the
    Griner-Bout prisoner exchange, Nepal plane crash, and sibling quakes at the Turkey-Syria border were among the predicted events. Saturn's entry into Aquarius, its first progression since the Capitol riot, has recently concluded its reign and cycles on 17
    March 2023, however its current post-lunar conjunct interval could present the ominous 'Saturnin' condition.

    Pluto will be returning to its Revolutionary War position, entering Aquarius thrice again with two retrogrades, first on 23 March 2023; the curtailed Mars Reign on 25 March 2023 is foretold as timing for a second coup, to which no resistance is made.

    If the VI.89 sequence from the 18 March 2023 'wasps and flies' commences with Saint Narcissus (invaders desecrating his Gerona tomb were driven from the town by a cloud of stinging flies), Saturn's grandfatherly paternal love for Venus being vexed by the
    Vertex as in I.54 seems related.

    The phrasing of I.54 suggesting two equals of an inclination being intruded upon matches the Vertex Pediment quirk for the Venus-Saturn sextile 17 March 2023 11:22 pm CET; the Vertex being involved later is indicated, as with the 'vitrix' of V.18 for the
    massive slaughter of Hecatombe. If the Cupbearer is Saturn for the lunar conjunct opening a Saturnin interval, the falsifying instance should be the imperfect Cup formed 19 March 2023 6:55 pm CET - the Vertex in mutual adjacency with Saturn and Venus was
    coincidental: there was Mars-Midheaven ambiguity, and a mismatch between Fortune and the Saturn-Moon trine positions for the Grand Trine component; also the Pediment had a strong Saturn-Midheaven trine a few degrees out of step with Venus as the Crest.

    The strongest trine potential for making a Grand version with the Vertex is between Ceres retrograding out of Libra (zero degrees 32 minutes Libra), and Pluto nearing Aquarius (29 degrees 57 minutes Capricorn): the Pluto-Ceres-Vertex Grand Trine forms 20
    March 2023 9:12 pm CET for Geneva, as an Inverted Balanced Cup form, with Pluto as the Fulcrum close to the skewed Nadir - as an Arrow it points decidedly downwards in orientation; the Descendant will then be between fallen Vesta (V.65), and Venus
    setting as Evening Star; the Moon will still be in the post-Saturn-conjunct field; and the Sun will not enter Aries to interrupt the Ceres Reign until 10:25 pm CET.

    During the Pluto-Ceres-Vertex Grand Trine the East Point will be merged with the Part of Fortune around ten degrees Scorpio.

    The next lunar aspect would be Pisces Moon in adjacency with Vesta in Aries, both at 18 degrees 14 minutes in their respective signs, 20 March 2023 9:46 pm CET, which could be the meaning of the incendiary lady engulfed by the true flame in VI.19. Venus
    reaches the Descendant a few minutes later at 9:49 pm CET. So X.6 probably indicates this Vesta lunar adjacency aspect, rather than the later lunar conjunct.

    The debasement of Venus would be in her slow descent towards the Ecliptic during the Saturnin cataclysmic onset, a cosmic fall in disgrace, followed by Juno and the Node. The ensuing Solar Reign may correspond to the burning Sun swallowed in IV.58; the
    Ceres Reign resumes 21 March 2023 8:53 am CET, less than half an hour before the Neptunian lunar conjunct (9:20 am CET) for the Corinth-Ephesus perplexity of III.3. Then the New Moon matches 'Sol et Lune' from V.66 for 21 March 2023 6:23 pm CET.

    The reference to trembling Gaul in X.58 could be for the 20 March feast honoring Saint Clement of Ireland (750-818), who arrived in Gaul 772, residing for a time in the court of Charlemagne.

    Blessed Sibyllina of Pavia has commemoration on 19 March for the Lombardy element (V.42 and VI.16).

    The second line from II.92 would have a clear meaning with activation on this schedule -

    Frappe du haut ne, fait cas merveilleux

    Struck from the High-Born, marvelous case manifested

    The High-Born one would be Saturn, of the mythical Titan race, indicating the Saturnin interval ensuing from its lunar conjunct 19 March 2023 6:27 pm CET.

    The manifestation of the 'marvelous case' should be the 17 March 11:22 pm CET Saturn-Venus-Vertex Pediment in the Geneva chart, further depicted in the latter portion of I.54.

    The Balance of V.42 should mean the Ceres Reign for Libra, focusing on the constellation, and thereby avoiding the more explicit description of the asteroid, that involved the 11 January 2020 convergence as portents of the pandemic, as in III.75.

    Considering the 20 March 9:12 pm CET Pluto-Ceres-Vertex Grand Trine as the Chalice tried in VI.89, the theme of V.65 appears the subtlety of the fateful indicators: the hidden principals of the affair locally for Geneva would exclude likely visible Ceres,
    with Pluto beneath the Ecliptic, and the Vertex conceptual. The final line implies the fury of the Higher Powers having been compounded by progressive degrees culminating in this concealed sort of punishing expression: although Vesta is a key figure,
    having her spotlight moment with lunar adjacency about half an hour after the Chalice may be tried with her infamous extinguishing fire motif, she has been relegated to positioning beneath the Ecliptic, conspicuously out of view for this Sacrificial
    event. Also below the horizon for Geneva then would be Saturn, the Moon, Neptune and the Sun.

    *

    On "Meet The Press" a story was recounted attributed to Ben Barnes (D) former Texas Lt. Gov., about a trip he took in the summer of 1980 with John Connally (R) Texas Governor in the Middle East: Barnes apparently alleged that Connally had requested local
    leaders relay to Iran that holding onto their American hostages would be preferable to releasing them, obviously since their release could be a positive thing for the Carter campaign - Connally was said to have argued that Reagan would be better than
    Carter to justify this nefarious strategy. Barnes further asserted that upon their return, there was a meeting with the Reagan campaign chairman. Host Chuck Todd lamented the inability to interview those who were named as involved, while noting that the
    Iranian hostages were released on Reagan's Inaugural Day.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Curtis Eagal@21:1/5 to Pamela Brown on Mon Mar 20 17:42:05 2023
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    Such a covert statement of objective had within it the eventual requirement for a song like "Penny Lane" with its triumphal entry into Jerusalem subtext, going forth with trumpets on horseback to emulate the Master Jesus - and that became its own
    real phenomenon, featuring the Fab Foursome all riding horses. The early group name "The SILVER Beetles" when spoken and reversed sounds like it ends with the word "Horsemen," suggesting a concept in tandem with the Revelation-parody early press release
    by Lennon.

    The group created an audio catalog with visual components possessing certain properties, thus these were created experiences that could be enjoyed or appreciated. Acknowledging prophetic fulfillment is not a passive-receptive endeavor, instead
    comparing a set of perceived parameters against any compliant conditions in reality: thus re-defining ambiguous terms, and assessing available information for relevancy is a continual challenge towards attaining clarity. In our current times there is not
    the unpopular Vietnam War ostensibly against communism, but instead the invasion of Ukraine threatening an established democratic nation. Prophecy may allow us to find this moment in history, and attain awareness of its potential opportunities and
    pitfalls: the hurdle that must be overcome is to properly define the given terms.

    In the ongoing endeavor, a correct assessment can exist from judicial astrology, without generating media coverage.

    High-Born Ones Meet As The Saturnin Chalice Is Doubled After Falsifying Version
    [1 March 2023 10:30 pm CET / 4:30 pm EST / 1:30 pm EST]

    The 22 February 2023 date as Vienne (via Saint Paschasius) in IX.69 could be valid for the Saturnin Grand Trine with Fortune and the Vertex (local to Geneva), subsequent to the Lyons date 15 February (via Saint Bonitus) when the Nepal plane crash
    occurred.

    Beyond Lyons, Vienne, such great hail for them

    {IX.69}

    So Vienne itself indicates a Saturnin Grand Trine that does not equate to the apocalyptic hail date: in the next quatrain, both Lyons and Vienne have been re-encoded - for 2017 with a different Lyons reference (martyrs 2 June) adjacent to the
    feast of Corpus Christi calculated in 2017 at 3 June (having the 12 August 2017 Charlottesville pro-Confederate statue rally as the first line backdrop, 'sharp weapons hidden under flaming torches'), and another 2023 usage for Vienne (in late May).

    Some of the Saturnin Grand Trine instances appear identified by extraneous details, which seems an effective subtext method due to their infrequency. There is no fabrication in examining the current judicial astrology against the cataclysmic
    prophetic lines, discarding false presumptions for more plausible interpretations. The fatality total from the Turkey-Syria border sibling quakes has reached an immense number, the 6 February date coinciding with the feast for two canonized nephews of
    Saint Patrick; this fulfilled line 3 of II.92, occurring after the final line was associated in real-time with the early January 2023 House Speakership vote debacle, against the 1 January feast for Saint Telemachus who opposed gladiator contests.

    Fire color of gold from terrestrial view -
    Struck with the High-Born, marvelous celestial feat;
    Massive human murder, taken from the Great's Nephew;
    Deaths as spectacles, the conceited one escapes defeat

    {II.92}

    The elusive solution to the High-Born hint should be that one instance of the Saturnin Grand Trine would be attended by that as a distinguishing feature - and this should be the conjunction of Venus as Mystery Babylon, miserable daughter debased
    by joining her disapproving omnipotent father Jupiter, as her pledging the ill-fated vow of VIII.32, 2 March 2023 around 7 am CET.

    ...Paternal love vexed,
    Cupbearer to falsify, Chalice tried

    {VI.89}

    The previous portion of that quatrain relates to the recent sibling quakes in a grisly fashion. There is a Saturnin Grand Trine with the Moon and Midheaven 1 March 2023 3:48 am CET, at Geneva Moonset, as the falsifying Cupbearer; the same day at
    10:30 pm CET there is another Saturnin Grand Trine with Fortune and the Ascendant - this becomes a 'marvelous case' with the concurrent doubling Grand Trine of The Sun and Moon (as in V.66) with the East Point. Venus in the latter case is about a third
    of a degree from conjoining Jupiter. So the critical time would be -

    << 1 March 2023 10:30 pm CET / 4:30 pm EST / 1:30 pm PST >>

    The Ceres Reign commences 24 February 2023 6:24 pm CET, when Venus progresses beyond their 5-degree 23-minute opposition location, as Ceres continues in retrograde; Mercury entering Pisces 2 March 2023 11:52 pm CET ends the reign of Ceres, which
    is alone in Libra. The Ceres Reign could be the time 'Under The Balance' from V.42, with 'those included' again inferring the fateful Saturnin Grand Trine.

    The clues in VI.82 regarding a Lourdes bludgeon, and the Seventh Vessel Chalice, could be associating Saint Lupercus with the 1 March feast, as a bishop martyred in 300, venerated at Tarbes, near Lourdes.

    March Second has a Lombard association, since it is feast for about four hundred faithful Martyrs of Campania, killed by pagan Lombards circa 579.

    The widow and virgin of VIII.80 could be the same person. Saint Cunegundes with a 3 March feast born in 975 was daughter of Count Sigfrid of Luxembourg; she vowed chastity before marrying Henry II, Duke of Bavaria; she was coronated at Paderborn,
    Germany, in 1002, and became Holy Roman Empress in 1014. An accusation of adultery was answered by treading on flaming irons. Henry died in 1024, leaving little to his charitable widow, who had built a monastery that had been dedicated on the day her
    husband would later die - on that date in 1025, after her first year as a widow, she entered the Benedictine monastery for nuns, and died there fifteen years later in 1040.

    There is a Neptunian Grand Trine with Fortune and the Ascendant 2 March 2023 12:47 am CET: during that time the Moon is less than a degree from conjoining Pallas, which is less than a quarter-degree off a solar trine - the dual lunar and
    Neptunian preoccupations could explain the perplexity for Corinth and Ephesus from III.3.

    Vesta is also involved in a Grand Trine with Fortune and the Ascendant 2 March 2023 2:09 am CET (X.6 timing), simultaneous with the Solar-Lunar trine; the Pallas lunar conjunction occurs less than half an hour later at 2:31 am CET. Venus and
    Jupiter conjoin later that morning around 7 am CET.

    The entry of Saturn into Pisces 7 March 2023 to initiate its own reign does not appear described as Saturnin, falling instead under the schedule from I.54.

    Two revolts done as wicked Scythe-bearer exclusive,
    Through reign and cycles accomplishing transformation;
    The movable sign by its placement so intrusive
    To the two equals of similar inclination

    {I.54}

    The movable sign appears to be Libra, yet by describing its placement being intrusive to the two revolts attributed to Saturn it suggests two things: during the primary revolt on 6 January 2021, as I.62 states the Moon had not yet completed its
    course in Libra (last aspect Venusian sextile) - so a reprise of lunar Libra for the second revolt is likely; and because the projected 1 March 2023 date features a Ceres Reign in Libra, the cataclysm may be depicted as an intervening event proving only
    meddlesome to the momentum for political disruption, as the change appears accomplished with the second revolt in any case.

    The theme of V.18 could extend into the aftermath, with line 2 indicating the Saturnin-Lunar Grand Trine with the Vertex 10 March 2023 11:41 pm CET - Saturn is then only 23 minutes of a degree into Pisces; Jupiter is joined by Vesta and Chiron in
    a close grouping around 14 degrees Aries.

    Celebrera son vitrix l'hecatombe

    Its Vertex version as the Sacrifice will be celebrated

    This combines the unlikely coincidences of the Vertex involvement, and the seemingly celebratory Vesta-Jupiter-Chiron group.

    For the US Capitol the equivalent 5:41 pm EST timing has the Moon at 29 degrees 14 minutes Libra, nearing its final aspect for the course, a Pluto square 6:36 pm EST at 29 degrees 44 minutes in their respective signs. This could be the lunar
    Libran chronology insinuated by I.54 for the second Scythe-bearer revolt (i.e., coup).

    Reading certain lines as providing establishing details for unmentioned celestial configurations may yield accurate results where a more straightforward approach could be expected to fail.
    Obviously the discovery of compliant Grand Trines is too elegant a solution to be discarded, although experience has made me reluctant to ever declare comprehension of the seer's intentions; if focusing on the few recent months has demonstrated a
    succession of confluences with actual circumstances for real-world events as foretold, imagine such fulfillments occurring over a twenty-year-plus era without public acknowledgment, so this is only the latest phase demonstrating itself as genuine.

    The 30 January 2023 date derived from the greatest Bible reader of V.83 and Great Basil reclaimed VI.78 for the feast of Three Holy Hierarchs was not very consequential for the US - however 1 February 2023 was a day for an extremely powerful
    European thunderstorm event, with two tornadoes afflicting northern Germany: the second cyclone was rated an F2 based on observed destruction to a pine forest, mowing down trees, stripping their limbs, flinging trunks into nearby fields. Although this
    was far north of the ominous Black Forest, the implication of the central cataclysm being foreshadowed by Nature's Fury for the region is clear.

    The sequencing for the two post-cataclysmic incidents, the Miracle and papal ambush, seems hinted without much ambiguity.

    For the Rhodes of V.16, neo-martyr Saint Niketas should prove the solution: born in 1716 to a governor father, Niketas' family had a Turkish association, there was an Islamic conversion, he was renamed Mehmet, and they moved to Rhodes; at 14 Mehmet
    discovered his Christian former identity, and embraced the faith; ultimately he was tortured for ten days to induce a re-conversion, then beheaded 21 June 1732, at age seventeen.

    Using Garabandal coordinates 20 June 2023 had two astrological quirks: at 12:09 pm CEST a Reinforced Grand Trine, where Vesta at Midheaven was in mutual trine with a Ceres-Fortune merger, and a Pluto-Vertex union; then at 4:53 pm CEST a 'Star-Of-
    David' Double Inverse Grand Trine Set consisting of the Moon at an unmoored chart Apex in a Grand Trine with Fortune and Neptune, juxtaposed against an Inverted Grand Trine with Pluto as the Fulcrum near the Nadir, in mutual trine with Ceres and Vesta.
    The latter time would be when the local witness to the Miracle may first occur.

    The chronology of VII.5 complies, with Saint Raynerius of Pisa of 17 June, then the 20 June anniversary of the papal army suppressing civilian revolt in Perugia.

    The papal ambush occurs after the terror according to V.22, where Parma suggests Blessed John of Parma for 22 May, matching the quatrain enumeration; the two reds making cheer together would be the Mars in Leo square Jupiter (Giant Red Spot) in
    Taurus aspect, both at 1 degree 28 minutes 23 May 2023 7:08 am CEST. Vienne of IX.70 could be for Saint Desiderius with 23 May feast, with the Latin cantons as the ambushing squadrons.

    So the trembling Warning event at 1 March 2023 is followed by the US second coup threat to the Biden administration (further theories omitted here), perhaps culminating in mid-April upheaval; the papal ambush of Fatima's Third Secret seems timed at
    23 May 2023; and the Miracle does not seem witnessed at Garabandal until 20 June 2023.

    The Saturn Reign should reveal its karmic replay of the Capitol riot conditions from 10 March 2023; slow-moving Pluto entering Aquarius will limit the 25 March 2023 Mars reign to a very short interval, yet that seems pivotal in the US political
    upheaval scenario, the 22 March date for Saint Paul of Narbonne figuring in IX.64 (where no resistance can be made) and III.92. The fascism consummates its full betrayal of the democratic ideal the following year, using V.23 to obtain the 6 April 2024
    bucket configuration featuring Mars at one end - the prophecy then has the US ceasing to be sovereign as the Young Empire, transforming into a subservient Brother or Satellite Nation.

    The Miracle is not merely an ectoplasmic spectacle, becoming dislodged to act as Henoch's Sword, driving the wicked into the Abyss that opens in both dimensions, before the chasm closes over them. The first part of V.42 alludes to the timing for
    that fateful activation (Mars ominously at 15 degrees, projected with yet another Grand Trine), while seeming to discuss the historic 1495 invasion by Charles VIII causing the Savoyards to retreat to Turin.

    From August 2023 there may be US conflict with Iran in delayed retaliation, reaching a notable milestone in late October 2023, foretold in IV.95 and IX.55, when Mars and Mercury will oppose Jupiter and the Moon.

    The Chastisement is not conditional if summarized in VI.35, and deduced for the upcoming instance when Mars and Jupiter will conjoin with the South Node, as the time for a solar coronal mass ejection aimed towards the Great Plains region as its
    primary target.

    While John Lennon was receiving backstage tips on playing the harmonica from Delbert McClintock who had performed on Bruce Channel's record, the young girl visionaries at Garabandal were enduring The Night Of Screams, reacting with horror to their
    Marian vision of the future Chastisement, when heat would become so intense people would rush to the ocean en masse for relief, only to find it scalding hot.
    The Geneva vigil was to last about seven months in V.81, likely counting from the 16 July 2022 conditions compared to IV.31; the Epistle passage focusing on a translation made regarding October probably inferred acknowledging the noted foretold
    sequence of events following the 25 October 2022 solar eclipse. A prudent listing would include the Pelosi hammer attack, Seoul Halloween crowd crush, Griner-Bout prisoner exchange, Brasilia insurrection, Nepal plane crash, and Turkey-Syria border
    sibling quakes, among other major news events, with accurate sequencing and confirmatory hagiology and judicial astrology.

    The obvious meaning for Saturnin would be during the Reign of Saturn (as first to make an aspect for the lunar course), which would include the 10 March 2023 11:41 pm CET Grand Trine of Saturn-Moon-Vertex for Geneva, probably hinted in V.18 line 2,
    with the ironic celebration being the Chiron-Vesta-Jupiter grouping around 14 degrees Aries. The second line of II.92 indicating struck from the High-Born implies a time after the 2 March 2023 Venus-Jupiter conjunct, which occurs after the noted Grand
    Trines; the marvelous case could be the synchronized trio convergence. The contrast debases Venus by exclusion: the lines imply Jupiter hosting a party soon after meeting daughter Venus, inviting Chiron and Vesta instead.

    The relevant terms should be reapplied, with the recent configurations as potential subtext, still expecting cataclysmic onset timed at the Geneva chart appearance of some Grand Trine; the Balance would revert to being the 17 November 2022 12:47 am
    CET Venusian Nadir with the Solar-Fulcrum Grand Trine as the Mobile Sign due to its rotation. This focus on 16-17 November 2022 presents an intervening situation for the two Saturnin revolts of I.54, of which the first manifested with 6 January 2021
    ending the long cycle. Presuming the cataclysm neatly occurs between the two revolts of Saturn seems erroneous: more likely when the negative energy has its recurrence, the karmic rebound effect would generate the cataclysm in tandem - thus the second
    commitment to political iniquity attributed to Saturn should have a corresponding punishing role for Saturn, happening together, or nearly so.

    The conditions for 2 March 2023 were fulfillments using the featured Grand Trine key, plausibly as esoteric precursors, towards the 10 March 2023 Saturn-Moon-Vertex instance during the Saturnin Reign (which commences circa 7 March 2023). The phrasing
    of I.62's final line suggests the punishing fire and flood will not be to forestall the recurrence of the long cycle, possibly insinuating the Geneva Explosive Hail being synchronized with the subsequent Saturnin Reign in its initial long cycle again
    coinciding with a second-attempt coup for the US, which finds no resistance circa 22-25 March 2023 from the IX.64 Mars Narbonne illumination.

    The relevant hagiology for the 10 March date was considered more than twenty years ago, focusing on Saint Macarius for the sepulchral-tomb inferences of VIII.34 and X.6.

    15 March 2000:

    https://groups.google.com/g/alt.prophecies.nostradamus/c/JQ1ZeIPxtS0/m/W42vYx6mEOIJ

    << 10 March St. Macarius was honoured, who was commissioned by Constantine to construct a church over the Holy Sepulcher (he died soon after the basilica was consecrated in 335). >>

    23 February 2001:

    https://groups.google.com/g/alt.prophecies.nostradamus/c/ycGQk-Yl-ek/m/cQO9h83ACx8J

    << 10 March ... St. Macarius as builder of the Church of the Holy Sepulcher could relate to X.6,
    mentioning Vesta in the same line. Also feastday for a martyr named Victor who may figure in VI.70. >>

    Several Grand Trines involving Saturn for Geneva since the 16 July 2022 2:06 am CEST post-Super Full Moon instance have appeared characterized, particularly in December 2022: the Saint Lucy's feast day 13 December 2022 4:46 pm CET Dusk Fortune jump
    from Saturn at Midheaven into a Saturnin Grand Trine for IX.68, compounding the Grand Trine of Pluto-Ceres-East Point, illuminating the divine command to mix the cup for Babylon double, during a Venusian reign; and the 18 December 2022 4:22 pm CET Grand
    Trine of Moon-Saturn-Ascendant, which shortly preceded the shifting Offspring Grand Trine formed with Fortune in succession as Venus-Node-Fortune progressing to Mercury-Ouranos-Fortune - this fulfilled IV.58 line 3, where the 'Chief pail of water leads
    its son in spinning,' confirmed by the final line signifying the prisoner exchange releasing female captive Griner, set at the adjacent 7 December feast for saints of Antioch.

    Since conceptual points with localized calculations are involved, certain Grand Trines would only be evident by selecting the Geneva location and observing chart animation over the significant intervals.

    The Saturn-Fortune-Vertex Grand Trine 22 February 2023 10:47 am CET was configured like the 16 July 2022 instance, both with Saturn at the Eleventh House cusp Apex: 22 February via Saint Paschasius related to Vienne for IX.69, where no identifying
    elements were given; Saturn was near the Moon 16 July 2022, yet near the Sun 22 February 2023 - thus the latter situation presented IX.44, of Saturn with the golden solar presence, approaching some catalytic participation. The emptiness of Vienne in IX.
    69 was concealed by a variant coding for Vienne in IX.70, alluding to 23 May 2023 via Saint Desiderius.

    A further milestone was during the 1-2 March 2023 condition: a Saturn-Moon-Midheaven Grand Trine appeared 1 March 2023 3:48 am CET was presumed to be a falsifying Cupbearer arriving in the wake of the Turkey-Syria border sibling quakes of 6 February
    2023, according to VI.89; then Fortune and the Ascendant were plotted to form successive Grand Trines with Saturn (1 March 2023 10:30 pm CET, coinciding with a Grand Trine of Sun-Moon-East Point), then Neptune (2 March 2023 12:47 am CET, synchronized
    with the Moon nearing closely-occurring solar trine and Pallas conjunct), and finally Vesta (2 March 2023 2:09 am CET, precisely coinciding with the Sun-Moon trine).

    The Solar-Lunar trine being featured during the 1-2 March 2023 sequence complied with V.66 hinting 'From Sun and Moon,' alluding to this conspicuous integration rather than promising such an aspect would be itself critical.

    The doubling of the Grand Trine with Saturn appeared ominous; the Neptunian Grand Trine was noted for its lunar perplexity in III.3; and the Vestal version completing the sequence could be indicated in the final line of X.6, 'Vesta - sepulchral
    extinguishing fire to appear,' which technically projects towards a further date, playing on the fire goddess identity.

    The conjunction of Venus and Jupiter as the High-Born ones of II.92 occurred 2 March 2023 6:22 am CET (12 degrees 8 minutes Aries), providing an astronomical display of two bright lights appearing closely in the night sky, as the subject of media
    coverage. The unusual combination of being both widow and virgin from VIII.80 applied to Saint Cunegundes (975-1040) with the 3 March feast.

    Saturn enters Pisces 7 March 2023 2:35 pm CET, commencing the presumably critical 'Saturnin Reign': this fateful Saturnin interval concludes when Juno enters Taurus 11 March 2023 5:16 pm CET.

    So the 10 March 2023 11:41 pm CET Saturn-Moon-Vertex Grand Trine now seems the elusive trigger for cataclysmic onset in Geneva, with the quirk that Jupiter will no longer be united with Venus, but in a new grouping with Chiron and Vesta around 14
    degrees Aries, signifying the sardonic celebration synchronized with Sacrifice in V.18, insinuating the Trinitarian co-founder Felix of Valois potentially dying forlorn with grief, despite his feast being in November, since the inference is more complex.

    On 10 March 2023, the Moon will be a few days beyond the Full Moon, similar to the 16 July 2022 condition.

    The hagiological associations for 10 March include: Saint Macharius, bishop of Jerusalem from 313, discoverer of the True Cross with Saint Helena, mother of Emperor Constantine - the Emperor commissioned Macharius to build the Church of the Holy
    Sepulcher, potentially related to the 'sepulchral' hint of X.6; Saint Victor, a martyr during the Trajan persecution of 250, recalling the 'sole title Victor' in the final line of VI.70; and Saint Anastasius the Patrician was a legendary Lady-In-Waiting
    leaving the court of Emperor Justinian in Constantinople for a convent in Alexandria, fleeing further into the desert when Empress Theodora died and Justinian sought her, ultimately allowed to dress as a monk to live in seclusion for another 28 years -
    Anastasius could be the Lady honored through force of terror in I.94 (the 'new Mars' for vengeance and remorse arrives later, as the brief Martian Reign of 25 March 2032).

    The 11 March feast had a previously noted connection with Milan (in the Lombard region) for the 2011 Japanese quake.

    https://groups.google.com/g/alt.prophecies.nostradamus/c/RvMu5LF9iME/m/GLDOs6QObaIJ

    << The extremely powerful 8.9 quake struck northern Japan on 11 March at 2:46 p.m. locally, about 15 minutes after the Moon entered Gemini (in trine with Pallas). That 11 March date is feast day for Saint Benedict Crispus, Archbishop of Milan... >>

    The same date returning in 2023 seems to provide the Lombardy allusion for V.42 and VI.16, no longer encoded for Milan. Saint Benedict Crispus died in 725, after 45 years as Archbishop.

    Other hagiological associations for 11 March include: Saint Pionus of Smyrna brings the Myrrh factor for the implicit Magi Gift Attack scenario from II.92, V.16 and VIII.34; Saint Alberta of Agen (died circa 286) brings an association with Gaul for X.
    58; and Saint Sophronius has a story that embellishes the V.18 hint about dying forlorn from grief - the capture of Jerusalem in 637 so saddened Sophronius that death from grief occurred the following year.

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    “I have yet many things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now. When the Spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all the truth:
    For he will not speak on his own authority,
    But whatever he HEARS he will speak,
    And he will declare to you the things that ARE TO COME.

    He will glorify Me,
    For he will take what is Mine and DECLARE it to you...

    In that day you will ask nothing of Me."

    [John 16]
    This post on my Dylagence blog references the Japan earthquake. It is also possible that this quake has some kind of connection to John and Yoko...

    https://dylagence.wordpress.com/2021/03/12/a-possible-connection-in-the-vortex-odd-references-in-bob-dylans-my-own-version-of-you/

    Pamela

    Secondary Saturnin Cup At Narbonne With High-Born Jupiter
    [22 March 2023 9:16 pm CET / 4:16 pm EDT / 1:16 pm PDT]

    The cataclysmic sequencing for Geneva now appears focused on the period following the New Moon 21 March 6:23 pm CET (V.66), using the obvious Ceres-Pluto-Vertex recurring Grand Trine as the falsifying Cupbearer in VI.89, which becomes followed by an
    inexact Grand Trine of Saturn, Mars and the Ascendant as the activating Chalice, appearing weak because Saturn and Mars are off a trine aspect by about three degrees.

    The 22 March date is feast for Saint Paul of Narbonne, figuring in III.92 line 4.

    The Ceres-Pluto-Vertex Grand Trine forms for Geneva 22 March 9:04 pm CET; the secondary Ascendant-Saturn-Mars Grand Trine, fulfilling the Revelation order to double the Cup for Venus as Mystery Babylon, peaks around 9:16 pm CET, perfectly coinciding with
    the Jupiter lunar conjunct - this potentially presents the II.92 condition of being struck with the High-Born for Olympian mythical deity Jupiter.

    The variance between the relative locations of Ceres and Pluto is then about five minutes of a degree, with their actual trine at 23 March 2023 4:51 am CET, Ceres in Virgo and Pluto in Capricorn both at 29 degrees 59 minutes, on their respective cusps.

    The Vesta lunar conjunct occurs before the Ceres-Pluto trine, 23 March 2023 1:10 am CET (X.6).

    For the perplexity of Corinth and Ephesus (III.3), the Moon in Aries moves into adjacency with Neptune in Pisces 23 March 2023 11:43 am CET, both at 25 degrees 23 minutes in their respective signs.

    The acceptance of the imperfect secondary Grand Trine with Saturn as the Saturnin influence, coinciding with the Jupiter lunar conjunct, suggests the critical time is -

    << 22 March 2023 9:16 pm CET / 4:16 pm EDT / 1:16 pm PDT >>

    Retrograding Ceres would be reigning then from four minutes Libra for the 'Under the Balance's stipulation of V.42.

    The hidden principals of the affair condition from V.65 could apply, with the Descendant between Vesta below the Ecliptic, and the Venusian cluster above it.

    Venus is then third to fall (9:54 pm CET) in a cluster with the Node (9:48 pm CET) and Juno (9:50 pm CET); the subsequent 23 March 2023 case puts the Moon ahead of the Venusian cluster at the Descendant when the primary Ceres-Pluto-Vertex Grand Trine
    forms. Which situation is more debasing for Venus to satisfy X.28 is unclear, however the 22 March 2023 9:16 pm CET synchronization of the secondary Saturn-Ascendant-Mars Grand Trine with the Jupiter lunar conjunct appears conclusive.

    L'oeil arrache a Narbon par Autour

    Bull's-Eye struck about Narbonne by Author

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