John Lennon famously urged his bandmates onward to the "Toppermost of the Poppermost." And they made it.described Lennon as "probably the laziest person in England."
Yet, the John Lennon portrayed in Maureen Cleave's "How Does A Beatle Live?" article in the London Evening Standard was a man devoid of drive. Lennon admitted to Cleave that sex was the only physical activity he had any interest in; and Cleave
IMO, it was at some point between Revolver and Sgt. Pepper that Lennon lost his passion for songwriting and trusted the others -- Geoff Emerick, George Martin, and his bandmates -- to turn his musical fragments into complete songs.
"Strawberry Fields," "I Am the Walrus," "Come Together" and "Because" would be of the caliber of Lennon's early 70s solo work without the contributions of these cohorts.
On 14/01/2023 2:36 am, Norbert K wrote:described Lennon as "probably the laziest person in England."
John Lennon famously urged his bandmates onward to the "Toppermost of the Poppermost." And they made it.
Yet, the John Lennon portrayed in Maureen Cleave's "How Does A Beatle Live?" article in the London Evening Standard was a man devoid of drive. Lennon admitted to Cleave that sex was the only physical activity he had any interest in; and Cleave
IMO, it was at some point between Revolver and Sgt. Pepper that Lennon lost his passion for songwriting and trusted the others -- Geoff Emerick, George Martin, and his bandmates -- to turn his musical fragments into complete songs.
"Strawberry Fields," "I Am the Walrus," "Come Together" and "Because" would be of the caliber of Lennon's early 70s solo work without the contributions of these cohorts.Surely " ...would not ..."
geoff
John Lennon famously urged his bandmates onward to the "Toppermost of the Poppermost." And they made it.described Lennon as "probably the laziest person in England."
Yet, the John Lennon portrayed in Maureen Cleave's "How Does A Beatle Live?" article in the London Evening Standard was a man devoid of drive. Lennon admitted to Cleave that sex was the only physical activity he had any interest in; and Cleave
IMO, it was at some point between Revolver and Sgt. Pepper that Lennon lost his passion for songwriting and trusted the others -- Geoff Emerick, George Martin, and his bandmates -- to turn his musical fragments into complete songs.Cleave article reference...btw, grew up in Connecticut... https://todayincthistory.com/2022/08/04/august-4-connecticut-broadcastings-ban-the-beatles-boycott/
"Strawberry Fields," "I Am the Walrus," "Come Together" and "Because" would be of the caliber of Lennon's early 70s solo work without the contributions of these cohorts.
On Friday, January 13, 2023 at 4:29:56 PM UTC-8, geoff wrote:described Lennon as "probably the laziest person in England."
On 14/01/2023 2:36 am, Norbert K wrote:
John Lennon famously urged his bandmates onward to the "Toppermost of the Poppermost." And they made it.
Yet, the John Lennon portrayed in Maureen Cleave's "How Does A Beatle Live?" article in the London Evening Standard was a man devoid of drive. Lennon admitted to Cleave that sex was the only physical activity he had any interest in; and Cleave
This one?IMO, it was at some point between Revolver and Sgt. Pepper that Lennon lost his passion for songwriting and trusted the others -- Geoff Emerick, George Martin, and his bandmates -- to turn his musical fragments into complete songs.
"Strawberry Fields," "I Am the Walrus," "Come Together" and "Because" would be of the caliber of Lennon's early 70s solo work without the contributions of these cohorts.Surely " ...would not ..."
geoffI meant what I wrote. Have you heard the "Because" demo?
On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 7:18:08 AM UTC-6, Norbert K wrote:described Lennon as "probably the laziest person in England."
On Friday, January 13, 2023 at 4:29:56 PM UTC-8, geoff wrote:
On 14/01/2023 2:36 am, Norbert K wrote:
John Lennon famously urged his bandmates onward to the "Toppermost of the Poppermost." And they made it.
Yet, the John Lennon portrayed in Maureen Cleave's "How Does A Beatle Live?" article in the London Evening Standard was a man devoid of drive. Lennon admitted to Cleave that sex was the only physical activity he had any interest in; and Cleave
IMO, it was at some point between Revolver and Sgt. Pepper that Lennon lost his passion for songwriting and trusted the others -- Geoff Emerick, George Martin, and his bandmates -- to turn his musical fragments into complete songs.
"Strawberry Fields," "I Am the Walrus," "Come Together" and "Because" would be of the caliber of Lennon's early 70s solo work without the contributions of these cohorts.Surely " ...would not ..."
This one?geoffI meant what I wrote. Have you heard the "Because" demo?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3onNVqvN_iA
On Friday, January 13, 2023 at 7:36:33 AM UTC-6, Norbert K wrote:described Lennon as "probably the laziest person in England."
John Lennon famously urged his bandmates onward to the "Toppermost of the Poppermost." And they made it.
Yet, the John Lennon portrayed in Maureen Cleave's "How Does A Beatle Live?" article in the London Evening Standard was a man devoid of drive. Lennon admitted to Cleave that sex was the only physical activity he had any interest in; and Cleave
IMO, it was at some point between Revolver and Sgt. Pepper that Lennon lost his passion for songwriting and trusted the others -- Geoff Emerick, George Martin, and his bandmates -- to turn his musical fragments into complete songs.
"Strawberry Fields," "I Am the Walrus," "Come Together" and "Because" would be of the caliber of Lennon's early 70s solo work without the contributions of these cohorts.Cleave article reference...btw, grew up in Connecticut... https://todayincthistory.com/2022/08/04/august-4-connecticut-broadcastings-ban-the-beatles-boycott/
On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 7:18:08 AM UTC-6, Norbert K wrote:described Lennon as "probably the laziest person in England."
On Friday, January 13, 2023 at 4:29:56 PM UTC-8, geoff wrote:
On 14/01/2023 2:36 am, Norbert K wrote:
John Lennon famously urged his bandmates onward to the "Toppermost of the Poppermost." And they made it.
Yet, the John Lennon portrayed in Maureen Cleave's "How Does A Beatle Live?" article in the London Evening Standard was a man devoid of drive. Lennon admitted to Cleave that sex was the only physical activity he had any interest in; and Cleave
IMO, it was at some point between Revolver and Sgt. Pepper that Lennon lost his passion for songwriting and trusted the others -- Geoff Emerick, George Martin, and his bandmates -- to turn his musical fragments into complete songs.
"Strawberry Fields," "I Am the Walrus," "Come Together" and "Because" would be of the caliber of Lennon's early 70s solo work without the contributions of these cohorts.Surely " ...would not ..."
This one?geoffI meant what I wrote. Have you heard the "Because" demo?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3onNVqvN_iA
On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 7:54:08 PM UTC-8, pamel...@gmail.com wrote:described Lennon as "probably the laziest person in England."
On Friday, January 13, 2023 at 7:36:33 AM UTC-6, Norbert K wrote:
John Lennon famously urged his bandmates onward to the "Toppermost of the Poppermost." And they made it.
Yet, the John Lennon portrayed in Maureen Cleave's "How Does A Beatle Live?" article in the London Evening Standard was a man devoid of drive. Lennon admitted to Cleave that sex was the only physical activity he had any interest in; and Cleave
I agree. There is.a lot of meat in that article...IMO, it was at some point between Revolver and Sgt. Pepper that Lennon lost his passion for songwriting and trusted the others -- Geoff Emerick, George Martin, and his bandmates -- to turn his musical fragments into complete songs.
Yeah, it's the same article in which John said the Beatles were more popular than Jesus. People tend to fixate on that, and overlook the bigger picture (of JL as extremely lethargic -- and almost certainly drug-fried)."Strawberry Fields," "I Am the Walrus," "Come Together" and "Because" would be of the caliber of Lennon's early 70s solo work without the contributions of these cohorts.Cleave article reference...btw, grew up in Connecticut... https://todayincthistory.com/2022/08/04/august-4-connecticut-broadcastings-ban-the-beatles-boycott/
On Sunday, January 15, 2023 at 4:48:04 AM UTC-6, Norbert K wrote:described Lennon as "probably the laziest person in England."
On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 7:54:08 PM UTC-8, pamel...@gmail.com wrote:
On Friday, January 13, 2023 at 7:36:33 AM UTC-6, Norbert K wrote:
John Lennon famously urged his bandmates onward to the "Toppermost of the Poppermost." And they made it.
Yet, the John Lennon portrayed in Maureen Cleave's "How Does A Beatle Live?" article in the London Evening Standard was a man devoid of drive. Lennon admitted to Cleave that sex was the only physical activity he had any interest in; and Cleave
IMO, it was at some point between Revolver and Sgt. Pepper that Lennon lost his passion for songwriting and trusted the others -- Geoff Emerick, George Martin, and his bandmates -- to turn his musical fragments into complete songs.
I agree. There is.a lot of meat in that article...Yeah, it's the same article in which John said the Beatles were more popular than Jesus. People tend to fixate on that, and overlook the bigger picture (of JL as extremely lethargic -- and almost certainly drug-fried)."Strawberry Fields," "I Am the Walrus," "Come Together" and "Because" would be of the caliber of Lennon's early 70s solo work without the contributions of these cohorts.Cleave article reference...btw, grew up in Connecticut... https://todayincthistory.com/2022/08/04/august-4-connecticut-broadcastings-ban-the-beatles-boycott/
On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 7:58:10 PM UTC-8, pamel...@gmail.com wrote:described Lennon as "probably the laziest person in England."
On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 7:18:08 AM UTC-6, Norbert K wrote:
On Friday, January 13, 2023 at 4:29:56 PM UTC-8, geoff wrote:
On 14/01/2023 2:36 am, Norbert K wrote:
John Lennon famously urged his bandmates onward to the "Toppermost of the Poppermost." And they made it.
Yet, the John Lennon portrayed in Maureen Cleave's "How Does A Beatle Live?" article in the London Evening Standard was a man devoid of drive. Lennon admitted to Cleave that sex was the only physical activity he had any interest in; and Cleave
IMO, it was at some point between Revolver and Sgt. Pepper that Lennon lost his passion for songwriting and trusted the others -- Geoff Emerick, George Martin, and his bandmates -- to turn his musical fragments into complete songs.
"Strawberry Fields," "I Am the Walrus," "Come Together" and "Because" would be of the caliber of Lennon's early 70s solo work without the contributions of these cohorts.Surely " ...would not ..."
Yes, thank you!This one?geoffI meant what I wrote. Have you heard the "Because" demo?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3onNVqvN_iA
Without Martin's contributions -- the distictive arpeggiated harpsichord, the meticulously-arranged vocal harmonies -- the song is not so impressive.
On Friday, January 13, 2023 at 4:29:56 PM UTC-8, geoff wrote:described Lennon as "probably the laziest person in England."
On 14/01/2023 2:36 am, Norbert K wrote:
John Lennon famously urged his bandmates onward to the "Toppermost of the Poppermost." And they made it.
Yet, the John Lennon portrayed in Maureen Cleave's "How Does A Beatle Live?" article in the London Evening Standard was a man devoid of drive. Lennon admitted to Cleave that sex was the only physical activity he had any interest in; and Cleave
Surely " ...would not ..."
IMO, it was at some point between Revolver and Sgt. Pepper that Lennon lost his passion for songwriting and trusted the others -- Geoff Emerick, George Martin, and his bandmates -- to turn his musical fragments into complete songs.
"Strawberry Fields," "I Am the Walrus," "Come Together" and "Because" would be of the caliber of Lennon's early 70s solo work without the contributions of these cohorts.
geoff
I meant what I wrote. Have you heard the "Because" demo?
On Friday, January 13, 2023 at 8:36:33 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:where he was in late '65, with nothing since changing his mind.
I've often wondered what happened to Lennon as a creative force. Somehow I always attributed it to after the Beatles broke up. But this does seem to be correct.
Again, I've always thought his depending on the other band members is what made his work great. He functioned as a member of a band, where McCartney became a control freak.
But the international fame, the Beatles image, the money, the drugs, being imprisoned in a marriage he didn't want, the last World tour... all of those things could have collided together to cause him apathy. Nowhere Man may have been a confession of
On Sunday, January 15, 2023 at 2:50:15 AM UTC-8, Norbert K wrote:Cleave described Lennon as "probably the laziest person in England."
On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 7:58:10 PM UTC-8, pamel...@gmail.com wrote:
On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 7:18:08 AM UTC-6, Norbert K wrote:
On Friday, January 13, 2023 at 4:29:56 PM UTC-8, geoff wrote:
On 14/01/2023 2:36 am, Norbert K wrote:
John Lennon famously urged his bandmates onward to the "Toppermost of the Poppermost." And they made it.
Yet, the John Lennon portrayed in Maureen Cleave's "How Does A Beatle Live?" article in the London Evening Standard was a man devoid of drive. Lennon admitted to Cleave that sex was the only physical activity he had any interest in; and
Lennon went off by himself to write the riff-based tune "I Feel Fine." The admiration of Bob Dylan led to the stylistic mask of "I'm A Loser." John and Paul considered their collaboration on the double-time waltz "Baby's In Black" to reflect theirIMO, it was at some point between Revolver and Sgt. Pepper that Lennon lost his passion for songwriting and trusted the others -- Geoff Emerick, George Martin, and his bandmates -- to turn his musical fragments into complete songs.
"Strawberry Fields," "I Am the Walrus," "Come Together" and "Because" would be of the caliber of Lennon's early 70s solo work without the contributions of these cohorts.Surely " ...would not ..."
Yes, thank you!This one?geoffI meant what I wrote. Have you heard the "Because" demo?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3onNVqvN_iA
Without Martin's contributions -- the distictive arpeggiated harpsichord, the meticulously-arranged vocal harmonies -- the song is not so impressive.The demos were basic run-throughs that showed potential for development in the finished arrangement, like looking at an unfinished abstract painting.
The personality of John Lennon sought to use music as a device for social change, he brought a cerebral quality to the proceedings with extensive influences being distilled to a new essence. In the competition with McCartney for the A-Side single,
George Martin was capable of some instrumental performance and scoring, and the twist-editing of the "Rain" coda infers his getting ahead of the reverse-masking joke.touring no longer planned, "Good Morning Good Morning" overtly looked to television for inspiration.
Marital problems emerged in "Norwegian Wood," noted by Martin when hearing an early version written while on holiday with John and Cynthia. A similar theme was perceived in "And Your Bird Can Sing," regarding the gift of a mechanized caged bird. With
John said "Nowhere Man" was inspired by reclining passively on a sofa, but the mind is conversely active. "No one I think is in my tree" meant that no one seemed to meet his own level of 'Hip-ness,' like McCartney explained the first line from "I SawHer Standing There" was itself a deception. The lyric says, "And you *know* what I mean," but that was the unfulfilled reality, since they knew you *don't* comprehend that 'She' is not really 'Just Seventeen,' because they have tricked the ear with the
Their songs appear to become the intended entity beyond the demo stage, with careful instrumental arrangement that illuminates the lyrical and vocal tricks.publicized out of context for teen fans, leading to a perception of sacrilege that Cleave herself utterly denounced as not being the tone of Lennon's comments. When asked of prized possessions, John had indicated a Bible and Crucifix; the discussion
Maureen Cleave moved in with the Lennon family for about two weeks, having the two-hour interview at the conclusion. The British reaction to the entire article was a 'holier than thou' attitude was being expressed; in America incendiary snippets were
On 15/01/2023 2:18 am, Norbert K wrote:described Lennon as "probably the laziest person in England."
On Friday, January 13, 2023 at 4:29:56 PM UTC-8, geoff wrote:
On 14/01/2023 2:36 am, Norbert K wrote:
John Lennon famously urged his bandmates onward to the "Toppermost of the Poppermost." And they made it.
Yet, the John Lennon portrayed in Maureen Cleave's "How Does A Beatle Live?" article in the London Evening Standard was a man devoid of drive. Lennon admitted to Cleave that sex was the only physical activity he had any interest in; and Cleave
Surely " ...would not ..."
IMO, it was at some point between Revolver and Sgt. Pepper that Lennon lost his passion for songwriting and trusted the others -- Geoff Emerick, George Martin, and his bandmates -- to turn his musical fragments into complete songs.
"Strawberry Fields," "I Am the Walrus," "Come Together" and "Because" would be of the caliber of Lennon's early 70s solo work without the contributions of these cohorts.
geoff
I meant what I wrote. Have you heard the "Because" demo?
Did you mean the "low calibre of the early 70's work" ?
On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 12:19:25 AM UTC-8, Laughing Jaw wrote:where he was in late '65, with nothing since changing his mind.
On Friday, January 13, 2023 at 8:36:33 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
But the international fame, the Beatles image, the money, the drugs, being imprisoned in a marriage he didn't want, the last World tour... all of those things could have collided together to cause him apathy. Nowhere Man may have been a confession of
One can sense it even in his vocals, which dramatically lost their power at some point in the mid-60s. John relied less on his own abilities and made
increasing reliance on studio effects (courtesy of Martin & Emerick) on the vocals.
On Sunday, January 15, 2023 at 2:50:15 AM UTC-8, Norbert K wrote:Cleave described Lennon as "probably the laziest person in England."
On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 7:58:10 PM UTC-8, pamel...@gmail.com wrote:
On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 7:18:08 AM UTC-6, Norbert K wrote:
On Friday, January 13, 2023 at 4:29:56 PM UTC-8, geoff wrote:
On 14/01/2023 2:36 am, Norbert K wrote:
John Lennon famously urged his bandmates onward to the "Toppermost of the Poppermost." And they made it.
Yet, the John Lennon portrayed in Maureen Cleave's "How Does A Beatle Live?" article in the London Evening Standard was a man devoid of drive. Lennon admitted to Cleave that sex was the only physical activity he had any interest in; and
Lennon went off by himself to write the riff-based tune "I Feel Fine." The admiration of Bob Dylan led to the stylistic mask of "I'm A Loser." John and Paul considered their collaboration on the double-time waltz "Baby's In Black" to reflect theirIMO, it was at some point between Revolver and Sgt. Pepper that Lennon lost his passion for songwriting and trusted the others -- Geoff Emerick, George Martin, and his bandmates -- to turn his musical fragments into complete songs.
"Strawberry Fields," "I Am the Walrus," "Come Together" and "Because" would be of the caliber of Lennon's early 70s solo work without the contributions of these cohorts.Surely " ...would not ..."
Yes, thank you!This one?geoffI meant what I wrote. Have you heard the "Because" demo?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3onNVqvN_iA
Without Martin's contributions -- the distictive arpeggiated harpsichord, the meticulously-arranged vocal harmonies -- the song is not so impressive.The demos were basic run-throughs that showed potential for development in the finished arrangement, like looking at an unfinished abstract painting.
The personality of John Lennon sought to use music as a device for social change, he brought a cerebral quality to the proceedings with extensive influences being distilled to a new essence. In the competition with McCartney for the A-Side single,
George Martin was capable of some instrumental performance and scoring, and the twist-editing of the "Rain" coda infers his getting ahead of the reverse-masking joke.touring no longer planned, "Good Morning Good Morning" overtly looked to television for inspiration.
Marital problems emerged in "Norwegian Wood," noted by Martin when hearing an early version written while on holiday with John and Cynthia. A similar theme was perceived in "And Your Bird Can Sing," regarding the gift of a mechanized caged bird. With
John said "Nowhere Man" was inspired by reclining passively on a sofa, but the mind is conversely active. "No one I think is in my tree" meant that no one seemed to meet his own level of 'Hip-ness,' like McCartney explained the first line from "I SawHer Standing There" was itself a deception. The lyric says, "And you *know* what I mean," but that was the unfulfilled reality, since they knew you *don't* comprehend that 'She' is not really 'Just Seventeen,' because they have tricked the ear with the
Their songs appear to become the intended entity beyond the demo stage, with careful instrumental arrangement that illuminates the lyrical and vocal tricks.publicized out of context for teen fans, leading to a perception of sacrilege that Cleave herself utterly denounced as not being the tone of Lennon's comments. When asked of prized possessions, John had indicated a Bible and Crucifix; the discussion
Maureen Cleave moved in with the Lennon family for about two weeks, having the two-hour interview at the conclusion. The British reaction to the entire article was a 'holier than thou' attitude was being expressed; in America incendiary snippets were
On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 7:24:28 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:of where he was in late '65, with nothing since changing his mind.
On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 12:19:25 AM UTC-8, Laughing Jaw wrote:
On Friday, January 13, 2023 at 8:36:33 AM UTC-5, Norbert K wrote:
But the international fame, the Beatles image, the money, the drugs, being imprisoned in a marriage he didn't want, the last World tour... all of those things could have collided together to cause him apathy. Nowhere Man may have been a confession
One can sense it even in his vocals, which dramatically lost their power at some point in the mid-60s. John relied less on his own abilities and madeI wish Lewisohn would hurry up with his vol 2. Could answer some of these questions.
increasing reliance on studio effects (courtesy of Martin & Emerick) on the vocals.
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