Does anyone know if there is a currently in print tournament book from
the 1948 World Championship match - tournament?
Figurine algebraic
would be preferred but will take what I can get. I figure I've got
about 2/3 of the games in my database but would prefer a book.
#2 - same question for the 1962 Candidates Tournament in Curacao won
by Petrosian
Lastly - happy 100th anniversary Yuri Averbakh! (birthday was last
week on Feb 8th) >https://chess24.com/en/read/news/yuri-averbakh-celebrates-100th-birthday#:~:text=Yuri%20Averbakh%20was%20born%20in,Championship%20title%20from%20Emanuel%20Lasker.
I'm not positive but believe he is the first GM ever to make it to
100.
On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 14:44:49 -0800, The Horny Goat <lcr...@home.ca>
wrote:
Does anyone know if there is a currently in print tournament book fromTournament. A match is between two players.
the 1948 World Championship match - tournament?
Figurine algebraicI had such a book years ago, but it's long gone now. However looking
would be preferred but will take what I can get. I figure I've got
about 2/3 of the games in my database but would prefer a book.
at Amazon, I see that there are several you can get.
Time, perhaps, that I sent in an order. But I am still waiting for a chess book from my first Amazon order, sent in 1997.
On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 6:03:52 PM UTC-5, Ken Blake wrote:
On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 14:44:49 -0800, The Horny Goat <lcr...@home.ca>
wrote:
Does anyone know if there is a currently in print tournament book fromTournament. A match is between two players.
the 1948 World Championship match - tournament?
Events with more than two rounds are sometimes called match-tournaments.
This one, in particular, is often described as such.
Figurine algebraicI had such a book years ago, but it's long gone now. However looking
would be preferred but will take what I can get. I figure I've got
about 2/3 of the games in my database but would prefer a book.
at Amazon, I see that there are several you can get.
Time, perhaps, that I sent in an order. But I am still waiting for a chess book from my first Amazon order, sent in 1997.
On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 14:44:49 -0800, The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca>
wrote:
Does anyone know if there is a currently in print tournament book from
the 1948 World Championship match - tournament?
Tournament. A match is between two players.
On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 20:29:30 -0800 (PST), William Hyde
<wthyde1953@gmail.com> wrote:
On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 6:03:52 PM UTC-5, Ken Blake wrote:
On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 14:44:49 -0800, The Horny Goat <lcr...@home.ca>
wrote:
Does anyone know if there is a currently in print tournament book fromTournament. A match is between two players.
the 1948 World Championship match - tournament?
Events with more than two rounds are sometimes called match-tournaments.
Perhaps by some people, but I've never seen or heard of a
"match-tournament."
This one, in particular, is often described as such.
Often? *Never* in my experience.
Figurine algebraicI had such a book years ago, but it's long gone now. However looking
would be preferred but will take what I can get. I figure I've got
about 2/3 of the games in my database but would prefer a book.
at Amazon, I see that there are several you can get.
Time, perhaps, that I sent in an order. But I am still waiting for a chess book from my first Amazon order, sent in 1997.
I order something from Amazon around once every week or two. I've
never had a problem.
On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 09:13:17 -0700, Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com>
wrote:
On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 20:29:30 -0800 (PST), William Hyde >><wthyde1953@gmail.com> wrote:
On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 6:03:52 PM UTC-5, Ken Blake wrote:
On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 14:44:49 -0800, The Horny Goat <lcr...@home.ca>
wrote:
Does anyone know if there is a currently in print tournament book from >>>> >the 1948 World Championship match - tournament?Tournament. A match is between two players.
Events with more than two rounds are sometimes called match-tournaments.
What he means is a round robin where each of the players play 2 or
more rounds of each other. I've never heard the term used with less
than 4 games against each opponent.
Perhaps by some people, but I've never seen or heard of a >>"match-tournament."
This one, in particular, is often described as such.
Often? *Never* in my experience.
Actually some of the early Candidates were described that way notably
Curacao 1962
On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 20:29:30 -0800 (PST), William Hyde
<wthyd...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 6:03:52 PM UTC-5, Ken Blake wrote:
On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 14:44:49 -0800, The Horny Goat <lcr...@home.ca>
wrote:
Does anyone know if there is a currently in print tournament book fromTournament. A match is between two players.
the 1948 World Championship match - tournament?
Events with more than two rounds are sometimes called match-tournaments. Perhaps by some people, but I've never seen or heard of a"match-tournament."
This one, in particular, is often described as such.Often? *Never* in my experience.
Figurine algebraicI had such a book years ago, but it's long gone now. However looking
would be preferred but will take what I can get. I figure I've got
about 2/3 of the games in my database but would prefer a book.
at Amazon, I see that there are several you can get.
Time, perhaps, that I sent in an order. But I am still waiting for a chess book from my first Amazon order, sent in 1997.I order something from Amazon around once every week or two. I've
never had a problem.
On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 09:13:17 -0700, Ken Blake <K...@invalid.news.com>
wrote:
On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 20:29:30 -0800 (PST), William Hyde ><wthyd...@gmail.com> wrote:
more rounds of each other. I've never heard the term used with lessOn Monday, February 14, 2022 at 6:03:52 PM UTC-5, Ken Blake wrote:
On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 14:44:49 -0800, The Horny Goat <lcr...@home.ca>
wrote:
Does anyone know if there is a currently in print tournament book from >>> >the 1948 World Championship match - tournament?Tournament. A match is between two players.
Events with more than two rounds are sometimes called match-tournaments. What he means is a round robin where each of the players play 2 or
than 4 games against each opponent.
Perhaps by some people, but I've never seen or heard of a >"match-tournament."
This one, in particular, is often described as such.
Often? *Never* in my experience.Actually some of the early Candidates were described that way notably Curacao 1962 (that was the one Tal pulled out of 3/4 way through due
to health problems related to his kidneys. From what I've heard the
chess world was darned lucky not to lose him at that time)
Besides the 50s/early 60s Candidates and of course 1948 I can't think
of any.
Ouch! Did they charge you?Figurine algebraicI had such a book years ago, but it's long gone now. However looking
would be preferred but will take what I can get. I figure I've got
about 2/3 of the games in my database but would prefer a book.
at Amazon, I see that there are several you can get.
Time, perhaps, that I sent in an order. But I am still waiting for a chess book from my first Amazon order, sent in 1997.
I order something from Amazon around once every week or two. I'veAt this point with respect to Informants I tend to feel "Stockholm syndrome-ish" since I have a complete set (I've been collecting since
never had a problem.
my teens - my favorite is still #12 which includes all of
Fischer-Spassky 1972 and that year's Olympiad) They're up to #150 now
and I have told my wife in no uncertain terms that if I'm gone she
must never ever allow the set to be broken up and if the children
don't claim it who it is to go to. (Someone who is considered a
Canadian chess historian who has been publishing a monthly e-journal
for nearly 10 years. Anybody who can publish 300 issues has my
respect!)
On Tuesday, February 15, 2022 at 6:04:28 PM UTC-5, The Horny Goat wrote:1927. Each player met the others four times in all of
On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 09:13:17 -0700, Ken Blake <K...@invalid.news.com> wrote:
On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 20:29:30 -0800 (PST), William Hyde ><wthyd...@gmail.com> wrote:
more rounds of each other. I've never heard the term used with lessOn Monday, February 14, 2022 at 6:03:52 PM UTC-5, Ken Blake wrote:
On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 14:44:49 -0800, The Horny Goat <lcr...@home.ca> >>> wrote:
Does anyone know if there is a currently in print tournament book fromTournament. A match is between two players.
the 1948 World Championship match - tournament?
Events with more than two rounds are sometimes called match-tournaments. What he means is a round robin where each of the players play 2 or
than 4 games against each opponent.
Perhaps by some people, but I've never seen or heard of a >"match-tournament."
This one, in particular, is often described as such.
Often? *Never* in my experience.Actually some of the early Candidates were described that way notably Curacao 1962 (that was the one Tal pulled out of 3/4 way through due
to health problems related to his kidneys. From what I've heard the
chess world was darned lucky not to lose him at that time)
Besides the 50s/early 60s Candidates and of course 1948 I can't thinkIt was more popular in the past, with St Petersburg, 1896 (Lasker, Steinitz, Tchigorin and Pillsbury). Ostend, 1907 (Tarrasch's last big win, also featuring also Schlechter, Janowski, Marshall, Burn and Tchigorin, in that order) and of course New York
of any.
these events.
My days in the chess world were mostly in the late 1950s. If the term
came about significantly later than that, that's probably why I had
never heard it.
On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 16:16:31 -0700, Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com>
wrote:
My days in the chess world were mostly in the late 1950s. If the term
came about significantly later than that, that's probably why I had
never heard it.
Well the tournament referred to was the 1948 world championship where >Botvinnik won the title.
https://www.chess.com/article/view/clash-of-champions-the-haguemoscow-1948
Like I say I've heard the term "match-tournament" used of Curacao 1962
and if you look at the crosstable for each you'll see what they have
in common.
https://www.mark-weeks.com/chess/6163$cix.htm
Probably the most embarassing moment of my childhood was when I told
my grandfather who taught me chess "I don't want to play with you
anymore grandad - you're too WEAK!"
As for 'late 50s' I was thinking a lot further back than that today -
I'm the national secretary of the Chess Federation of Canada and was
spending time in contact with FIDE today trying to find out how we get
a celebratory header on their website for the CFC's 150th anniversary >(1872-2022) - among other things we're a charter member of FIDE...
On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 20:57:43 -0800, The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca>
wrote:
On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 16:16:31 -0700, Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com>The game went
wrote:
1. P-K4 (almost nobody in the US used algebraic notation in those
days)
1... N-KB3 (dummy that I was, I didn't realize you couldn't play the
King's Indian Defense against 1. P-K4)
2. P-K5 (I was flabbergasted. I don't remember what I replied nor who
won the game).
As for 'late 50s' I was thinking a lot further back than that today -
I'm the national secretary of the Chess Federation of Canada and was
Congratulations!
This is the item that's mostly got my attention at the moment. Thespending time in contact with FIDE today trying to find out how we get
a celebratory header on their website for the CFC's 150th anniversary >>(1872-2022) - among other things we're a charter member of FIDE...
On Wed, 16 Feb 2022 08:57:12 -0700, Ken Blake <K...@invalid.news.com>request&X-Amz-Date=20220216T205037Z&X-Amz-SignedHeaders=host&X-Amz-Expires=300&X-Amz-Signature=6f24ebb9cae9bc25dff65d6490dc1289f01cf864a08cc721d3787f36b9769184
wrote:
On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 20:57:43 -0800, The Horny Goat <lcr...@home.ca>
wrote:
On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 16:16:31 -0700, Ken Blake <K...@invalid.news.com> >>wrote:The game went
1. P-K4 (almost nobody in the US used algebraic notation in those
days)
1... N-KB3 (dummy that I was, I didn't realize you couldn't play the >King's Indian Defense against 1. P-K4)
2. P-K5 (I was flabbergasted. I don't remember what I replied nor whoOh dear. That sounds like VERY early Beth Harmon.....having watched
won the game).
the Queens Gambit when it first came out I figured I should read the
book espec given who wrote it. I'm only 1/4 way through but no
question there's a lot more tranquilizer talk than in the show
Doesn't that picture at https://s3.amazonaws.com/files.saturdayeveningpost.com/uploads/reprints/Have_Pawn_Will_Travel/index.html?X-Amz-Content-Sha256=UNSIGNED-PAYLOAD&X-Amz-Algorithm=AWS4-HMAC-SHA256&X-Amz-Credential=AKIAI3QGKNAHC7QBOIAA%2F20220216%2Fus-east-1%2Fs3%2Faws4_
look like one of the Queens Gambit tournaments? (I assume you
recognize Fischer in the photo)
On Wed, 16 Feb 2022 08:57:12 -0700, Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com>
wrote:
On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 20:57:43 -0800, The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca>
wrote:
On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 16:16:31 -0700, Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> >>>wrote:The game went
1. P-K4 (almost nobody in the US used algebraic notation in those
days)
1... N-KB3 (dummy that I was, I didn't realize you couldn't play the
King's Indian Defense against 1. P-K4)
2. P-K5 (I was flabbergasted. I don't remember what I replied nor who
won the game).
Oh dear. That sounds like VERY early Beth Harmon.....having watched
the Queens Gambit when it first came out I figured I should read the
book espec given who wrote it. I'm only 1/4 way through but norequest&X-Amz-Date=20220216T205037Z&X-Amz-SignedHeaders=host&X-Amz-Expires=300&X-Amz-Signature=6f24ebb9cae9bc25dff65d6490dc1289f01cf864a08cc721d3787f36b9769184
question there's a lot more tranquilizer talk than in the show
Doesn't that picture at >https://s3.amazonaws.com/files.saturdayeveningpost.com/uploads/reprints/Have_Pawn_Will_Travel/index.html?X-Amz-Content-Sha256=UNSIGNED-PAYLOAD&X-Amz-Algorithm=AWS4-HMAC-SHA256&X-Amz-Credential=AKIAI3QGKNAHC7QBOIAA%2F20220216%2Fus-east-1%2Fs3%2Faws4_
look like one of the Queens Gambit tournaments?
(I assume you
recognize Fischer in the photo)
Well I've been doing it for 10 years so not nearly as exciting as whenAs for 'late 50s' I was thinking a lot further back than that today -
I'm the national secretary of the Chess Federation of Canada and was
Congratulations!
I took it on. My biggest job is overseeing security on the board of
governors section of our web forum (which is important as there's some
highly confidential stuff discussed there) and redirecting e-mails
from FIDE that were sent to me rather than the president or FIDE rep.
You can safely assume there's currently a lot of talk about COVID
since different parts of the country are recovering at different rates
and while some areas are playing face to face (mostly with masks)
others aren't there yet. Obviously this and within the country travel
issues have implications for national championship events! Both the US
and Canada are large by European standards so travel is a bigger deal
for us and the USCF than over there.
These days FIDE is mostly fine but can be a bit obtuse at times about
certain things. (Which sorry I'm NOT going to discuss in a public
forum! I don't want our board grumpy with me)
This is the item that's mostly got my attention at the moment. The
spending time in contact with FIDE today trying to find out how we get
a celebratory header on their website for the CFC's 150th anniversary >>>(1872-2022) - among other things we're a charter member of FIDE...
USCF (founded 1939) are newbies by comparison but there were regional >federations long before that that merged to make the USCF you and I
know.
Up till Marshall the US championship was decided by match play but
when Marshall retired in 1936 he specified it should be done by
tournament
(first won by Reshevsky in 1936) and provided rules that
were good enough they lasted with only minor changes through the 60s.
That was how the world championship was done pre WW2 but when
Alekhine died in 1946 FIDE took over the title and has done a
respectable job since Fischer and Kasparov notwithstanding.
Lastly a request: in 1964 Fischer published an article "The Russians
Have Fixed World Chess" in Sports Illustrated. Google says it's on the
SI site but gave a dead link. So I went to the SI site and couldn't
find it anywhere. Anyone know of an alternate source for this article?
(Historically it's fairly important as FIDE re-organized the structure
of the World Championship in response to it so that there was no
longer a Candidates tournament but 1 on 1 knockout matches)
Up till Marshall the US championship was decided by match play
when Marshall retired in 1936 he specified it should be done by
tournament (first won by Reshevsky in 1936)
On Wed, 16 Feb 2022 12:55:57 -0800, The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca>
wrote:
On Wed, 16 Feb 2022 08:57:12 -0700, Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com>
wrote:
On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 20:57:43 -0800, The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> >>>wrote:
On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 16:16:31 -0700, Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> >>>>wrote:The game went
1. P-K4 (almost nobody in the US used algebraic notation in those
days)
1... N-KB3 (dummy that I was, I didn't realize you couldn't play the >>>King's Indian Defense against 1. P-K4)
2. P-K5 (I was flabbergasted. I don't remember what I replied nor who
won the game).
Oh dear. That sounds like VERY early Beth Harmon.....having watched
the Queens Gambit when it first came out I figured I should read the
I never saw it, but I read the book. It was mildly entertaining, but I
wasn't crazy about it.
request&X-Amz-Date=20220216T205037Z&X-Amz-SignedHeaders=host&X-Amz-Expires=300&X-Amz-Signature=6f24ebb9cae9bc25dff65d6490dc1289f01cf864a08cc721d3787f36b9769184book espec given who wrote it. I'm only 1/4 way through but no
question there's a lot more tranquilizer talk than in the show
Doesn't that picture at >>https://s3.amazonaws.com/files.saturdayeveningpost.com/uploads/reprints/Have_Pawn_Will_Travel/index.html?X-Amz-Content-Sha256=UNSIGNED-PAYLOAD&X-Amz-Algorithm=AWS4-HMAC-SHA256&X-Amz-Credential=AKIAI3QGKNAHC7QBOIAA%2F20220216%2Fus-east-1%2Fs3%2Faws4_
look like one of the Queens Gambit tournaments?
I wasn't able to open it. Access Denied.
It's an extremely long URL. Are you sure it's correct?
(I assume you
recognize Fischer in the photo)
If Fischer was there, I'd recognize him. As you probably know, I knew
him well.
Well I've been doing it for 10 years so not nearly as exciting as whenAs for 'late 50s' I was thinking a lot further back than that today - >>>>I'm the national secretary of the Chess Federation of Canada and was
Congratulations!
I took it on. My biggest job is overseeing security on the board of >>governors section of our web forum (which is important as there's some >>highly confidential stuff discussed there) and redirecting e-mails
from FIDE that were sent to me rather than the president or FIDE rep.
You can safely assume there's currently a lot of talk about COVID
since different parts of the country are recovering at different rates
and while some areas are playing face to face (mostly with masks)
others aren't there yet. Obviously this and within the country travel >>issues have implications for national championship events! Both the US
and Canada are large by European standards so travel is a bigger deal
for us and the USCF than over there.
These days FIDE is mostly fine but can be a bit obtuse at times about >>certain things. (Which sorry I'm NOT going to discuss in a public
forum! I don't want our board grumpy with me)
Speaking of FIDE, back in my days at the Manhattan Chess Club, I used
to know Florencio Campomanes. He was not someone I liked. I only
played against him once, in a rapids tournament, but I won easily.
This is the item that's mostly got my attention at the moment. The
spending time in contact with FIDE today trying to find out how we get >>>>a celebratory header on their website for the CFC's 150th anniversary >>>>(1872-2022) - among other things we're a charter member of FIDE...
USCF (founded 1939) are newbies by comparison but there were regional >>federations long before that that merged to make the USCF you and I
know.
Up till Marshall the US championship was decided by match play but
Marshall died in 1944, when I was seven, well before I became an
active player. So I never knew him, but I knew his wife, who ran the >Marshall Chess Club. I was a member of both the Manhattan and the
Marshall.
when Marshall retired in 1936 he specified it should be done by
tournament
If I ever knew that I had forgotten.
(first won by Reshevsky in 1936) and provided rules that
were good enough they lasted with only minor changes through the 60s.
That was how the world championship was done pre WW2 but when
Alekhine died in 1946 FIDE took over the title and has done a
Yes, I know.
respectable job since Fischer and Kasparov notwithstanding.
Lastly a request: in 1964 Fischer published an article "The Russians
Have Fixed World Chess" in Sports Illustrated. Google says it's on the
SI site but gave a dead link. So I went to the SI site and couldn't
find it anywhere. Anyone know of an alternate source for this article?
I just searched and couldn't find any. I think I read it years ago,
but I'm not sure.
(Historically it's fairly important as FIDE re-organized the structure
of the World Championship in response to it so that there was no
longer a Candidates tournament but 1 on 1 knockout matches)
On Wed, 16 Feb 2022 14:53:20 -0700, Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com>
wrote:
On Wed, 16 Feb 2022 12:55:57 -0800, The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca>
wrote:
On Wed, 16 Feb 2022 08:57:12 -0700, Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> >>>wrote:
On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 20:57:43 -0800, The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> >>>>wrote:
On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 16:16:31 -0700, Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> >>>>>wrote:The game went
1. P-K4 (almost nobody in the US used algebraic notation in those
days)
1... N-KB3 (dummy that I was, I didn't realize you couldn't play the >>>>King's Indian Defense against 1. P-K4)
2. P-K5 (I was flabbergasted. I don't remember what I replied nor who >>>>won the game).
Oh dear. That sounds like VERY early Beth Harmon.....having watched
the Queens Gambit when it first came out I figured I should read the
I never saw it, but I read the book. It was mildly entertaining, but I >>wasn't crazy about it.
I'm now at the part where she's tied for 1st in the US Open having
lost her last round game when all she needed for solo victory was a
draw. This is when she's crossed 2200 for the first time.
request&X-Amz-Date=20220216T205037Z&X-Amz-SignedHeaders=host&X-Amz-Expires=300&X-Amz-Signature=6f24ebb9cae9bc25dff65d6490dc1289f01cf864a08cc721d3787f36b9769184book espec given who wrote it. I'm only 1/4 way through but no
question there's a lot more tranquilizer talk than in the show
Doesn't that picture at >>>https://s3.amazonaws.com/files.saturdayeveningpost.com/uploads/reprints/Have_Pawn_Will_Travel/index.html?X-Amz-Content-Sha256=UNSIGNED-PAYLOAD&X-Amz-Algorithm=AWS4-HMAC-SHA256&X-Amz-Credential=AKIAI3QGKNAHC7QBOIAA%2F20220216%2Fus-east-1%2Fs3%2Faws4_
look like one of the Queens Gambit tournaments?
I wasn't able to open it. Access Denied.
It's an extremely long URL. Are you sure it's correct?
Yep - just double checked it just now. Admittedly long URLs that get
wrapped around usually need the >'s taken out to work.
8239785390272478728(I assume you
recognize Fischer in the photo)
If Fischer was there, I'd recognize him. As you probably know, I knew
him well.
Never met Fischer and one of my few regrets from my teen years is that
I live in Vancouver and thus had the chance to go to the university to
see one or more of the Fischer-Taimanov games. My parents felt it was
too long a bus ride for me though 3 months later I played in the 1971 >Canadian Open in a larger venue on the same campus that was much
further away from the main bus loop than the Student Union theatre
which is where Fischer - Taimanov was played. (4 years later as a
freshman at that school I visited that theatre and no question it
would have been a great venue for a match but too small for an
international 16 player round robin) of the type that were common in
the 1970s
See what I mean? >https://m.facebook.com/TheatreUBC/photos/a.10152466662997966.1073741839.84835972965/10152466665152966/?type=3&_ft_=top_level_post_id.10152466670137966%3Atl_objid.10152466665152966%3Athid.84835972965%3A306061129499414%3A69%3A1388563200%3A1420099199%3A-
(apologies for the long URL)
The hall where we had the Canadian Open was where I met and got yelled
at by Max Euwe then president of FIDE for making too much noise in the >skittles room (so that our noise was getting back to the main hall!)
and also where I met Spassky who was watching my board with interest
and I was so distracted by him I blundered a piece in a completely won >middlegame by grabbing on h7. Given the move everyone remembers from
game 1 of Fischer-Spassky the following year one wonders if Spassky >remembered that distraught Canadian teenager as I made the blunder
directly in front of him. During the post-mortem my opponent confirmed
that that was indeed Spassky! (since our board was right on the aisle
that led to the top boards I wasn't really in doubt)
Sorry never met him. The only FIDE president I met was Euwe though I
Well I've been doing it for 10 years so not nearly as exciting as whenAs for 'late 50s' I was thinking a lot further back than that today - >>>>>I'm the national secretary of the Chess Federation of Canada and was
Congratulations!
I took it on. My biggest job is overseeing security on the board of >>>governors section of our web forum (which is important as there's some >>>highly confidential stuff discussed there) and redirecting e-mails
from FIDE that were sent to me rather than the president or FIDE rep.
You can safely assume there's currently a lot of talk about COVID
since different parts of the country are recovering at different rates >>>and while some areas are playing face to face (mostly with masks)
others aren't there yet. Obviously this and within the country travel >>>issues have implications for national championship events! Both the US >>>and Canada are large by European standards so travel is a bigger deal
for us and the USCF than over there.
These days FIDE is mostly fine but can be a bit obtuse at times about >>>certain things. (Which sorry I'm NOT going to discuss in a public
forum! I don't want our board grumpy with me)
Speaking of FIDE, back in my days at the Manhattan Chess Club, I used
to know Florencio Campomanes. He was not someone I liked. I only
played against him once, in a rapids tournament, but I won easily.
knew Nathan Divinsky (Canada's longtime FIDE rep and spoke on behalf
of the Chess Federation of Canada at his funeral) having taken his
vector calculus class at UBC before I knew him from chess. I later got
to knew him VERY well after graduation as Divinsky and I are the two
longest serving Chess Federation of Canada secretaries and regularly
attended the same tournaments.
I have never been to NYC but know the reputation of both clubs well.This is the item that's mostly got my attention at the moment. The
spending time in contact with FIDE today trying to find out how we get >>>>>a celebratory header on their website for the CFC's 150th anniversary >>>>>(1872-2022) - among other things we're a charter member of FIDE...
USCF (founded 1939) are newbies by comparison but there were regional >>>federations long before that that merged to make the USCF you and I
know.
Up till Marshall the US championship was decided by match play but
Marshall died in 1944, when I was seven, well before I became an
active player. So I never knew him, but I knew his wife, who ran the >>Marshall Chess Club. I was a member of both the Manhattan and the
Marshall.
when Marshall retired in 1936 he specified it should be done by >>>tournament
If I ever knew that I had forgotten.
Reshevsky spells all this out in his collection of his games which was
one of my first chess books and purchased at the same time as MCO 10
from the university book store.
(first won by Reshevsky in 1936) and provided rules that
were good enough they lasted with only minor changes through the 60s.
That was how the world championship was done pre WW2 but when
Alekhine died in 1946 FIDE took over the title and has done a
Yes, I know.
respectable job since Fischer and Kasparov notwithstanding.
Lastly a request: in 1964 Fischer published an article "The Russians
Have Fixed World Chess" in Sports Illustrated. Google says it's on the
SI site but gave a dead link. So I went to the SI site and couldn't
find it anywhere. Anyone know of an alternate source for this article?
I just searched and couldn't find any. I think I read it years ago,
but I'm not sure.
(Historically it's fairly important as FIDE re-organized the structure
of the World Championship in response to it so that there was no
longer a Candidates tournament but 1 on 1 knockout matches)
Regretably I've not yet found Fischer's Sports Illustrated article -
you can search for it on SI's site and it appears to "find" it but
comes up with a blank screen as if the PDF had been purged or moved to
a different folder.
Any article that led directly to reorganization of the Candidates is
an important article regardless of where it's published.
On Wed, 16 Feb 2022 14:53:20 -0700, Ken Blake <K...@invalid.news.com>
wrote:
Sorry never met him. The only FIDE president I met was Euwe though I
knew Nathan Divinsky (Canada's longtime FIDE rep and spoke on behalf
of the Chess Federation of Canada at his funeral) having taken his
vector calculus class at UBC before I knew him from chess. I later got
to knew him VERY well after graduation as Divinsky and I are the two
longest serving Chess Federation of Canada secretaries and regularly
attended the same tournaments.
I never had an MCO 10, but I still have an MCO 8, the last version I
bought. I's one of the very few chess books I still own, but it's
certainly not a book I still need, since I never play anymore.
On Thu, 17 Feb 2022 09:01:23 -0700, Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com>
wrote:
I never had an MCO 10, but I still have an MCO 8, the last version I >>bought. I's one of the very few chess books I still own, but it's
certainly not a book I still need, since I never play anymore.
I got my MCO 8 LONG after the advice in it was still current - can't
remember whether 13 or 14 was out by then.
Got MCO 10 in the late 60s when it was fairly new and the paperback
cover has long been dilapidated. (That was the one Larry Evans editted
if I recall correctly)
That was back in the days when an expensive chess book was $5!
I've now finished The Queen's Gambit - who else but Walter Tevis would
have the protagonist steal a copy of Chess Life?
On Fri, 18 Feb 2022 00:28:10 -0800, The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca>
wrote:
On Thu, 17 Feb 2022 09:01:23 -0700, Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com>
wrote:
I never had an MCO 10, but I still have an MCO 8, the last version I >>>bought. I's one of the very few chess books I still own, but it's >>>certainly not a book I still need, since I never play anymore.
I got my MCO 8 LONG after the advice in it was still current - can't >>remember whether 13 or 14 was out by then.
Got MCO 10 in the late 60s when it was fairly new and the paperback
cover has long been dilapidated. (That was the one Larry Evans editted
if I recall correctly)
That was back in the days when an expensive chess book was $5!
I've now finished The Queen's Gambit - who else but Walter Tevis would
have the protagonist steal a copy of Chess Life?
Beats me. I've never heard of Walter Tevis except as author of "The
Queen's Gambit."
In my day, it was still called "Chess Review." I still have a tattered
copy of the January 1960 issue, because it has a postal game I played.
I also have a photocopy of the cover of the January 1956 issue, since
I'm in the picture on the cover.
In my day, it was still called "Chess Review." I still have a tattered
copy of the January 1960 issue, because it has a postal game I played.
I also have a photocopy of the cover of the January 1956 issue, since
I'm in the picture on the cover.
On Fri, 18 Feb 2022 09:33:39 -0700, Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com>
wrote:
On Fri, 18 Feb 2022 00:28:10 -0800, The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca>
wrote:
On Thu, 17 Feb 2022 09:01:23 -0700, Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> >>>wrote:
I never had an MCO 10, but I still have an MCO 8, the last version I >>>>bought. I's one of the very few chess books I still own, but it's >>>>certainly not a book I still need, since I never play anymore.
I got my MCO 8 LONG after the advice in it was still current - can't >>>remember whether 13 or 14 was out by then.
Got MCO 10 in the late 60s when it was fairly new and the paperback
cover has long been dilapidated. (That was the one Larry Evans editted
if I recall correctly)
That was back in the days when an expensive chess book was $5!
I've now finished The Queen's Gambit - who else but Walter Tevis would >>>have the protagonist steal a copy of Chess Life?
Beats me. I've never heard of Walter Tevis except as author of "The
Queen's Gambit."
In my day, it was still called "Chess Review." I still have a tattered
copy of the January 1960 issue, because it has a postal game I played.
I also have a photocopy of the cover of the January 1956 issue, since
I'm in the picture on the cover.
Oh boy - Tevis wrote several novels that became big name movies the
best known being "The Man Who Fell to Earth" which in the movie
version starred David Bowie.
"The Queen's Gambit" is comparatively
small fry by comparison much as I think Netflix did a very good job
capturing the late 60s/early70s chess scene.
(I remember a lot of my
early tournament rooms and the ones in the show looked weirdly
familiar though by the late 60s when I started the rating system was
firmly in place and it didn't take 4 months to get one)
Beth Harmon is clearly modelled on Fischer but has many differences.
(No evidence Fischer ever abused drugs or alcohol and he very
definitely did have a family.
I am not aware any right wing Christian
group ever tried to make him make anti-Soviet statements - he did
that on his own
- and long before he hooked up with the Armstrongites!
And obviously Anja Taylor-Joy is much more photogenic!
The book says
that Harmon made her own clothing choices and the outfits in the show >faithfully reflected that - tasteful but not flashy)
Borgov was a clear Botvinnik-Spassky mix and I do think the Netflix
gang made an excellent choice in their version of the Harmon-Borgov
game at the end (actually a variation from Ivanchuk-Wolff, Biel
Interzonal 1993)
No, I don't think there was anyone who tried to make him make
anti-Soviet statements, but he was very much a part of the Nazi
log-cabin chess club, and was very friendly with Forry Laucks, who ran
(and founded, I think) the club. Forry taught him to be an
anti-semite. He always claimed not to be Jewish, because he claimed
not to be Jewish because his mother didn't count in his being what he
called himself, and he never met his father, who he claimed wasn't
Jewish (he was, as you probably know).
On Fri, 18 Feb 2022 09:33:39 -0700, Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com>
wrote:
In my day, it was still called "Chess Review." I still have a tattered
copy of the January 1960 issue, because it has a postal game I played.
I also have a photocopy of the cover of the January 1956 issue, since
I'm in the picture on the cover.
My apologies for replying twice but you might want to check the USCF
archive which has complete sets of both Chess Life and Chess Review in
PDF format going back to the beginning. (Shout out to the USCF for
offering this!)
The Jan 56 issue you mention is found at >http://uscf1-nyc1.aodhosting.com/CL-AND-CR-ALL/CR-ALL/CR1956/CR1956_01.pdf >and I would guess you're one of the kids at the simul.
From the story
on page 6 it's a Fischer simul
though he's not on the cover. (At least
I didn't see him)
The main archive page is at >https://new.uschess.org/chess-life-digital-archives
and you will have to choose either Chess Life or Chess Review then the
year you want to view (which can be downloaded)
On Fri, 18 Feb 2022 00:28:10 -0800, The Horny Goat <lcr...@home.ca>
wrote:
On Thu, 17 Feb 2022 09:01:23 -0700, Ken Blake <K...@invalid.news.com> >wrote:
I never had an MCO 10, but I still have an MCO 8, the last version I >>bought. I's one of the very few chess books I still own, but it's >>certainly not a book I still need, since I never play anymore.
I got my MCO 8 LONG after the advice in it was still current - can't >remember whether 13 or 14 was out by then.
Got MCO 10 in the late 60s when it was fairly new and the paperback
cover has long been dilapidated. (That was the one Larry Evans editted
if I recall correctly)
That was back in the days when an expensive chess book was $5!
I've now finished The Queen's Gambit - who else but Walter Tevis wouldBeats me. I've never heard of Walter Tevis except as author of "The
have the protagonist steal a copy of Chess Life?
Queen's Gambit."
In my day, it was still called "Chess Review." I still have a tattered
copy of the January 1960 issue, because it has a postal game I played.
I also have a photocopy of the cover of the January 1956 issue, since
I'm in the picture on the cover.
On Fri, 18 Feb 2022 13:52:02 -0700, Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com>
wrote:
No, I don't think there was anyone who tried to make him make
anti-Soviet statements, but he was very much a part of the Nazi
log-cabin chess club, and was very friendly with Forry Laucks, who ran
(and founded, I think) the club. Forry taught him to be an
anti-semite. He always claimed not to be Jewish, because he claimed
not to be Jewish because his mother didn't count in his being what he >>called himself, and he never met his father, who he claimed wasn't
Jewish (he was, as you probably know).
Uh you don't think "The Russians have Fixed World Chess" (the title of
his Sports Illustrated article) was an anti-Soviet statement?
I am very disappointed that Sports Illustrated's archives which at
first glance seem to be as good or better as the USCF's do have a link
for the issue that contained that article BUT when I went there I got
a dead link.
I appreciate not too many folks are diving into 1961 SI's and wouldn't
have been shocked not to find an archive on their site but for sure I
would have liked to read the article.
Any article that more or less single handedly led directly to changing
the method of how winners at the Interzonal get to play the world
champion has to be considered significant - and is an article I would
love to read preferably in the original like the CR issue I linked you
to.
The strongest player I ever really knew well was Peter Biyiasas who
20-30 years later mocked me for some silly things 11 year old me had
said when my late grandfather gave him and several other players a
lift after a tournament. And of course a ton of players I met from
being a junior TD at the 2003 Canadian Championship (I had directed
100+ events at that point but was glad to get that invitation as it
sealed my international arbiter title)
I also had the 'pleasure' of contacting FIDE after Abe Yanofsky's
passing because while they had removed him from the GM list they
missed the IA list - the fact that he had both titles had been
forgotten. And then there was the time I asked our national FIDE rep
to contact FIDE as the FIDE rating list had me as female and another
IA Mrs Lynn Stringer as male which definitely would have surprised her
! I later told her that between rounds and we had a good chuckle.
She's probably the best known director here on Canada's west coast.
(Alas she's now deep in dementia though she is one who will DEFINITELY
have an annual memorial tournament in her name when the time comes - >definitely not like me)
On Friday, February 18, 2022 at 11:33:43 AM UTC-5, Ken Blake wrote:
On Fri, 18 Feb 2022 00:28:10 -0800, The Horny Goat <lcr...@home.ca>
wrote:
On Thu, 17 Feb 2022 09:01:23 -0700, Ken Blake <K...@invalid.news.com>Beats me. I've never heard of Walter Tevis except as author of "The
wrote:
I never had an MCO 10, but I still have an MCO 8, the last version I
bought. I's one of the very few chess books I still own, but it's
certainly not a book I still need, since I never play anymore.
I got my MCO 8 LONG after the advice in it was still current - can't
remember whether 13 or 14 was out by then.
Got MCO 10 in the late 60s when it was fairly new and the paperback
cover has long been dilapidated. (That was the one Larry Evans editted
if I recall correctly)
That was back in the days when an expensive chess book was $5!
I've now finished The Queen's Gambit - who else but Walter Tevis would
have the protagonist steal a copy of Chess Life?
Queen's Gambit."
In my day, it was still called "Chess Review." I still have a tattered
copy of the January 1960 issue, because it has a postal game I played.
I also have a photocopy of the cover of the January 1956 issue, since
I'm in the picture on the cover.
"Chess Review" was a magazine founded by Horowitz and Kashdan in the depression. Kashdan didn't hang around, and Horowitz was the editor until the late 1960s.
USCF published a house magazine "Chess Life",
the two merged on Horowitz' retirement to form "Chess Life and Review".
Later the name was changed again to "Chess Life".
"Chess Review" was a good magazine,
as was "Chess Life and Review". "Chess Life", in its later incarnation, was terrible.
I was glad to see they'd taken the "review" off of it as Horowitz wouldn't want to be associated with such a feeble effort.
I subscribed to CL&R from 70-74, to CL from 86-91.
William Hyde
No, I don't think there was anyone who tried to make him make
anti-Soviet statements, but he was very much a part of the Nazi
log-cabin chess club, and was very friendly with Forry Laucks, who ran
(and founded, I think) the club. Forry taught him to be an
anti-semite. He always claimed not to be Jewish, because he claimed
not to be Jewish because his mother didn't count in his being what he
called himself, and he never met his father, who he claimed wasn't
Jewish (he was, as you probably know).
On Fri, 18 Feb 2022 14:58:58 -0800 (PST), William Hyde
<wthyde1953@gmail.com> wrote:
On Friday, February 18, 2022 at 11:33:43 AM UTC-5, Ken Blake wrote:
On Fri, 18 Feb 2022 00:28:10 -0800, The Horny Goat <lcr...@home.ca>
wrote:
On Thu, 17 Feb 2022 09:01:23 -0700, Ken Blake <K...@invalid.news.com>In my day, it was still called "Chess Review." I still have a tattered
wrote:
copy of the January 1960 issue, because it has a postal game I played.
I also have a photocopy of the cover of the January 1956 issue, since
I'm in the picture on the cover.
"Chess Review" was a magazine founded by Horowitz and Kashdan in the depression. Kashdan didn't hang around, and Horowitz was the editor until the late 1960s.
Yes, I know. I met Kashdan only once or twice, but I knew Horowitz
much better, although we certainly weren't close.
USCF published a house magazine "Chess Life",
Yes, I know. I used to always get it.
the two merged on Horowitz' retirement to form "Chess Life and Review".
Yes, I know.
Later the name was changed again to "Chess Life".
Yes, I know.
"Chess Review" was a good magazine,
As far as I'm concerned, it was good in some respects, but not so good
in others. I remember there being lots of articles I disliked.
as was "Chess Life and Review". "Chess Life", in its later incarnation, was terrible.
That was after my chess days, so I didn't get it and have no opinions
about it.
I was glad to see they'd taken the "review" off of it as Horowitz wouldn't want to be associated with such a feeble effort.
I subscribed to CL&R from 70-74, to CL from 86-91.
I subscribed to CR from about 1953-1959. CL about the same.
William Hyde
On Fri, 18 Feb 2022 14:24:33 -0800, The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca>
wrote:
On Fri, 18 Feb 2022 13:52:02 -0700, Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com>
wrote:
Uh you don't think "The Russians have Fixed World Chess" (the title of
his Sports Illustrated article) was an anti-Soviet statement?
I'm not sure why you think I said that, but I didn't. What I said was
"I don't think there was anyone who tried to make him make anti-Soviet >statements." He decided to make the statement himself (but his
thinking may have been influenced by others)
I knew two very strong players well: Fischer and Lombardy. I knew lots
of other grandmasters and near grandmasters, but nowhere near as well
On Fri, 18 Feb 2022 13:52:02 -0700, Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com>
wrote:
No, I don't think there was anyone who tried to make him make
anti-Soviet statements, but he was very much a part of the Nazi
log-cabin chess club, and was very friendly with Forry Laucks, who ran
(and founded, I think) the club.
Forry taught him to be an
anti-semite. He always claimed not to be Jewish, because he claimed
not to be Jewish because his mother didn't count in his being what he >>called himself, and he never met his father, who he claimed wasn't
Jewish (he was, as you probably know).
NAZI Log Cabin club? I've heard of that club though I've never heard
that word used of them nor any political comment about any club except >possibly some of those ethnic clubs whose members come from either
various nationalities within the Soviet Union or countries overrun by
them.
On Fri, 18 Feb 2022 20:41:52 -0800, The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca>
wrote:
On Fri, 18 Feb 2022 13:52:02 -0700, Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com>
wrote:
No, I don't think there was anyone who tried to make him make
anti-Soviet statements, but he was very much a part of the Nazi
log-cabin chess club, and was very friendly with Forry Laucks, who ran >>>(and founded, I think) the club.
By the way, the club met in Forry's house in New Jersey.
Forry taught him to be an
anti-semite. He always claimed not to be Jewish, because he claimed
not to be Jewish because his mother didn't count in his being what he >>>called himself, and he never met his father, who he claimed wasn't
Jewish (he was, as you probably know).
NAZI Log Cabin club? I've heard of that club though I've never heard
that word used of them nor any political comment about any club except >>possibly some of those ethnic clubs whose members come from either
various nationalities within the Soviet Union or countries overrun by
them.
Forry Laucks was clearly a Nazi, or at least a Nazi sympathizer. He
never tried to hide it. He was also a bitter anti-semite. That's not
to say that all the members were Nazis, but I'm almost sure that
Forry's political views influenced Fischer.
I tried to find a graphic of the Log Cabin Chess Clubs' logo on the
Internet, but I couldn't find one. But I'll describe it:
It had an image of a chess board in the center with a log on each
side, and each log protruded past one side of the board. From the
protruding ends of the logs were the words Log, Cabin, Chess, Club,
one word on each log.
It looked something like this
| LOG
____________
C ____ | C
L | | | A
U | | | B
B__ _|___ | | I
| N
CHESS|
My attempt at drawing it is admittedly terrible,
but if you saw the
actual logo, you'd immediately recognize that it was a swastika.
It looked something like this
| LOG
____________
C ____ | C
L | | | A
U | | | B
B__ _|___ | | I
| N
CHESS|
My attempt at drawing it is admittedly terrible, but if you saw the
actual logo, you'd immediately recognize that it was a swastika.
On Sat, 19 Feb 2022 08:19:13 -0700, Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com>
wrote:
It looked something like this
| LOG
____________
C ____ | C
L | | | A
U | | | B
B__ _|___ | | I
| N
CHESS|
My attempt at drawing it is admittedly terrible, but if you saw the
actual logo, you'd immediately recognize that it was a swastika.
Am not visualizing it
and I assure you I certainly can recognize a
swastika when I see it.
On Sat, 19 Feb 2022 09:16:51 -0800, The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca>
wrote:
On Sat, 19 Feb 2022 08:19:13 -0700, Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com>
wrote:
It looked something like this
| LOG
____________
C ____ | C
L | | | A
U | | | B
B__ _|___ | | I
| N
CHESS|
My attempt at drawing it is admittedly terrible, but if you saw the >>>actual logo, you'd immediately recognize that it was a swastika.
Am not visualizing it
OK, I'm trying again, this time using a fixed font.
|LOG
|
C |
L |__|____C
U | | A
B___|__| B
| I
| N
CHESS|
Is this better?
and I assure you I certainly can recognize a
swastika when I see it.
Yes, I'm also sure. It's a rare person who couldn't
On Sat, 19 Feb 2022 10:48:31 -0700, Ken Blake <K...@invalid.news.com>
wrote:
On Sat, 19 Feb 2022 09:16:51 -0800, The Horny Goat <lcr...@home.ca>
wrote:
On Sat, 19 Feb 2022 08:19:13 -0700, Ken Blake <K...@invalid.news.com> >>wrote:
It looked something like this
| LOG
____________
C ____ | C
L | | | A
U | | | B
B__ _|___ | | I
| N
CHESS|
My attempt at drawing it is admittedly terrible, but if you saw the >>>actual logo, you'd immediately recognize that it was a swastika.
Am not visualizing it
OK, I'm trying again, this time using a fixed font.
|LOG
|
C |
L |__|____C
U | | A
B___|__| B
| I
| N
CHESS|
Is this better?
and I assure you I certainly can recognize a
swastika when I see it.
Yes, I'm also sure. It's a rare person who couldn'ta bit better - not that I want to spend my Saturday analysing
swastikas!
Will have to try to find the Reykjavik 1972 book - it's the one with
the white cover and I know Gligoric was involved in some way but can't remember whether it was the intro or the main analysis.
On Saturday, February 19, 2022 at 2:44:12 PM UTC-5, The Horny Goat wrote:
On Sat, 19 Feb 2022 10:48:31 -0700, Ken Blake <K...@invalid.news.com>
wrote:
On Sat, 19 Feb 2022 09:16:51 -0800, The Horny Goat <lcr...@home.ca>a bit better - not that I want to spend my Saturday analysing
wrote:
On Sat, 19 Feb 2022 08:19:13 -0700, Ken Blake <K...@invalid.news.com>
wrote:
It looked something like this
| LOG
____________
C ____ | C
L | | | A
U | | | B
B__ _|___ | | I
| N
CHESS|
My attempt at drawing it is admittedly terrible, but if you saw the
actual logo, you'd immediately recognize that it was a swastika.
Am not visualizing it
OK, I'm trying again, this time using a fixed font.
|LOG
|
C |
L |__|____C
U | | A
B___|__| B
| I
| N
CHESS|
Is this better?
and I assure you I certainly can recognize a
swastika when I see it.
Yes, I'm also sure. It's a rare person who couldn't
swastikas!
Will have to try to find the Reykjavik 1972 book - it's the one with
the white cover and I know Gligoric was involved in some way but can't
remember whether it was the intro or the main analysis.
I'm sure I have a copy somewhere.
A few notes on Lauks I found via google:
http://tartajubow.blogspot.com/2013/03/e-forry-laucks.html
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