• Texas Gold-Backed Digital Currency

    From Paul Popinjay@21:1/5 to All on Mon Apr 10 06:48:42 2023
    Texas is introducing a state measure to provide for a gold-backed digital currency, redeemable in cash or gold. Great idea. And no "tracking".

    Similiar to Paxos and Tether which already have their own gold-backed ERC-20 tokens on the Ethereum blockchain.

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  • From RichD@21:1/5 to Paul Popinjay on Mon Apr 10 11:09:09 2023
    On April 10, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    Texas is introducing a state measure to provide for a gold-backed digital currency, redeemable in cash or gold.
    Similiar to Paxos and Tether which already have their own gold-backed
    ERC-20 tokens on the Ethereum blockchain.

    What backs gold?

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    Rich

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  • From Paul Popinjay@21:1/5 to RichD on Mon Apr 10 13:23:04 2023
    On Monday, April 10, 2023 at 11:09:13 AM UTC-7, RichD wrote:

    What backs gold?




    Are you just fucking with me? I thought it was a really good idea, and still do.

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  • From RichD@21:1/5 to Paul Popinjay on Tue Apr 11 13:38:59 2023
    On April 10, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    What backs gold?

    Are you just fucking with me? I thought it was a really good idea, and still do.

    Your notion is that currency is worthless, unless "backed" by another
    currency. This leads to an infinite regress, it's illogical.

    Paxos are Tether are worthless, but for the fact that they're
    backed by gold. In which case, why not simply buy gold, duh.....
    ditto for these new exciting Texas dollars -

    So everything defaults to gold. What backs gold?
    Let's revert to a more basic level: what is money?

    You can't answer this question, but take some consolation, as
    neither can the large majority of your fellow homo sapiens -

    --
    Rich

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  • From Paul Popinjay@21:1/5 to RichD on Tue Apr 11 16:08:48 2023
    On Tuesday, April 11, 2023 at 1:39:03 PM UTC-7, RichD wrote:


    You can't answer this question, but take some consolation, as
    neither can the large majority of your fellow homo sapiens -

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    I can answer it, I just didn't realize you were Jerry's cousin.

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  • From Paul Popinjay@21:1/5 to All on Tue Apr 11 16:18:51 2023
    On Tuesday, April 11, 2023 at 4:08:51 PM UTC-7, Paul Popinjay wrote:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2X0r68RFLg

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  • From jack roth@21:1/5 to RichD on Tue Apr 11 18:59:17 2023
    On Monday, April 10, 2023 at 11:09:13 AM UTC-7, RichD wrote:

    What backs gold?

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    Rich

    Greed.

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  • From Paul Popinjay@21:1/5 to jack roth on Tue Apr 11 20:29:51 2023
    On Tuesday, April 11, 2023 at 6:59:21 PM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:
    On Monday, April 10, 2023 at 11:09:13 AM UTC-7, RichD wrote:
    What backs gold?

    --
    Rich
    Greed.


    Like I said, I don't know Rich's motive for asking such an obviously stupid question, unless he's stupid. 5000 years of being used as a store of value, it's pretty, it doesn't corrode, it's scarce, what's his fucking problem?

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  • From RichD@21:1/5 to jack roth on Wed Apr 12 14:46:31 2023
    On April 11, jack roth wrote:
    What backs gold?

    Greed.

    That's almost the right answer.
    But not for the reason you think -

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  • From RichD@21:1/5 to Paul Popinjay on Wed Apr 12 15:08:03 2023
    On April 11, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    What backs gold?

    Like I said, I don't know Rich's motive for asking such an obviously stupid question, unless he's stupid.
    5000 years of being used as a store of value, it's pretty, it doesn't corrode, it's scarce, what's his fucking
    problem?

    The folks on Gilligan's Island had a pretty chill scene, didn't they? Tropical paradise, palm trees, coconuts...

    Well, maybe not so chill.... because they were poor, they had no money.
    Hawaii isn't much fun with empty pockets. And everybody knows, the
    size of your wallet determines rich or poor. Money is wealth.

    So, if a Good Samaritan plane dropped sacks of Federal Reserve notes
    on the island, they'd be rich! Party time!

    Well.... maybe not. Because those bills are FIAT money, unbacked by
    gold. Worthless. Sorry guys, the hotel is full, no rooms available, did
    you bring a tent?

    But, if the plane drops a chest of GOLD COINS, that's REAL
    money! Happy days are here again! They're wealthy, hello
    tropical paradise!

    And if they stay ten years, their money will retain its worth, it's a
    "store of value", 5000 years can't be wrong -

    PS, Mr. Logic: why muck with Texas dollars - BACKED BY GOLD -
    why not buy gold?

    PSS If you do buy gold, you're going to pay with Federal Reserve
    notes, I presume? Which are backed by... nothing? Is the seller a
    fool, why would he do that trade? Are you a crook?

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    Rich

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  • From RichD@21:1/5 to Paul Popinjay on Wed Apr 12 15:41:31 2023
    On April 11, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    5000 years of being used as a store of value, ... it's scarce,

    Gold inflates at 2% per year.

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    Rich

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  • From Paul Popinjay@21:1/5 to RichD on Wed Apr 12 17:56:23 2023
    On Wednesday, April 12, 2023 at 3:41:34 PM UTC-7, RichD wrote:
    On April 11, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    5000 years of being used as a store of value, ... it's scarce,

    Gold inflates at 2% per year.



    Like I said earlier. What is your fucking problem?

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  • From jack roth@21:1/5 to RichD on Thu Apr 13 02:57:31 2023
    On Wednesday, April 12, 2023 at 3:08:06 PM UTC-7, RichD wrote:
    On April 11, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    What backs gold?

    Like I said, I don't know Rich's motive for asking such an obviously stupid question, unless he's stupid.
    5000 years of being used as a store of value, it's pretty, it doesn't corrode, it's scarce, what's his fucking
    problem?
    The folks on Gilligan's Island had a pretty chill scene, didn't they? Tropical
    paradise, palm trees, coconuts...

    Well, maybe not so chill.... because they were poor, they had no money. Hawaii isn't much fun with empty pockets. And everybody knows, the
    size of your wallet determines rich or poor. Money is wealth.

    You must have never watched Gilligan's Island else you'd know perfectly well Mr Howel had bricks of cash on that island.

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  • From BTSinAustin@21:1/5 to jack roth on Thu Apr 13 09:21:56 2023
    On Thursday, April 13, 2023 at 5:57:34 AM UTC-4, jack roth wrote:
    On Wednesday, April 12, 2023 at 3:08:06 PM UTC-7, RichD wrote:
    On April 11, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    What backs gold?

    Like I said, I don't know Rich's motive for asking such an obviously stupid question, unless he's stupid.
    5000 years of being used as a store of value, it's pretty, it doesn't corrode, it's scarce, what's his fucking
    problem?
    The folks on Gilligan's Island had a pretty chill scene, didn't they? Tropical
    paradise, palm trees, coconuts...

    Well, maybe not so chill.... because they were poor, they had no money. Hawaii isn't much fun with empty pockets. And everybody knows, the
    size of your wallet determines rich or poor. Money is wealth.
    You must have never watched Gilligan's Island else you'd know perfectly well Mr Howel had bricks of cash on that island.

    But when they found the gold they went nuts

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  • From RichD@21:1/5 to Paul Popinjay on Thu Apr 13 10:05:12 2023
    On April 10, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    Texas is introducing a state measure to provide for a gold-backed digital currency, redeemable in cash or gold.

    This made me suspicious so I checked:
    Article I, section 8:
    Legislative powers:
    "To coin money, regulate the value thereof ..."

    hmmm... does this mean the SOLE power? Are states
    forbidden to coin money?

    Looks like more make work for lawyers... (the main purpose of gov't anyway)

    "... and of foreign coin"

    What does that mean?


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    Rich

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  • From RichD@21:1/5 to Paul Popinjay on Thu Apr 13 09:57:05 2023
    On April 12, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    5000 years of being used as a store of value, ... it's scarce,

    Gold inflates at 2% per year.

    Like I said earlier. What is your fucking problem?

    Gold has built-in inflation of 2% per year.
    Do you deny this?

    PS Did you realize that the depression of 1930 was caused
    by deflation? Do you believe that falling prices had everyone
    dancing in the streets?


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    Rich

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  • From Paul Popinjay@21:1/5 to Paul Popinjay on Thu Apr 13 11:09:02 2023
    On Thursday, April 13, 2023 at 11:05:44 AM UTC-7, Paul Popinjay wrote:


    Texas is not coining money, it is thinking of digitizing bullion.


    Strike that. Granted, this may prove tricky. I know as much as you do. So we will see. Looking forward to seeing.

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  • From Paul Popinjay@21:1/5 to RichD on Thu Apr 13 11:01:16 2023
    On Thursday, April 13, 2023 at 9:57:09 AM UTC-7, RichD wrote:
    On April 12, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    5000 years of being used as a store of value, ... it's scarce,

    Gold inflates at 2% per year.

    Like I said earlier. What is your fucking problem?
    Gold has built-in inflation of 2% per year.
    Do you deny this?


    Yes, I deny this.


    PS Did you realize that the depression of 1930 was caused
    by deflation? Do you believe that falling prices had everyone
    dancing in the streets

    Again, what's your point?

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  • From Paul Popinjay@21:1/5 to RichD on Thu Apr 13 11:05:41 2023
    On Thursday, April 13, 2023 at 10:05:16 AM UTC-7, RichD wrote:
    On April 10, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    Texas is introducing a state measure to provide for a gold-backed digital currency, redeemable in cash or gold.
    This made me suspicious so I checked:
    Article I, section 8:
    Legislative powers:
    "To coin money, regulate the value thereof ..."

    hmmm... does this mean the SOLE power? Are states
    forbidden to coin money?

    Looks like more make work for lawyers... (the main purpose of gov't anyway)

    "... and of foreign coin"

    What does that mean?



    Yes, Congress has the sole power to COIN money. And "money" is gold and silver". It doesn't say Congress has the power to CREATE money.

    Texas is not coining money, it is thinking of digitizing bullion.

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  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to RichD on Thu Apr 13 13:12:16 2023
    On Thursday, April 13, 2023 at 10:05:16 AM UTC-7, RichD wrote:
    On April 10, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    Texas is introducing a state measure to provide for a gold-backed digital currency, redeemable in cash or gold.
    This made me suspicious so I checked:
    Article I, section 8:
    Legislative powers:
    "To coin money, regulate the value thereof ..."

    hmmm... does this mean the SOLE power? Are states
    forbidden to coin money?
    .

    I remember back about 70-years ago, a kid showed me a 1 mill coin. I believe it was worth $.001
    It was from Oklahoma. It was for tax purposes. Most items in the story were under a buck. ("Penny candy," etc.). So no 'rounding' needed. It was compressed cardboard, or something like that. Google it.
    .
    .


    Looks like more make work for lawyers... (the main purpose of gov't anyway)

    "... and of foreign coin"

    What does that mean?


    --
    Rich

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  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to Paul Popinjay on Thu Apr 13 13:15:40 2023
    On Thursday, April 13, 2023 at 11:05:44 AM UTC-7, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    On Thursday, April 13, 2023 at 10:05:16 AM UTC-7, RichD wrote:
    On April 10, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    Texas is introducing a state measure to provide for a gold-backed digital
    currency, redeemable in cash or gold.
    This made me suspicious so I checked:
    Article I, section 8:
    Legislative powers:
    "To coin money, regulate the value thereof ..."

    hmmm... does this mean the SOLE power? Are states
    forbidden to coin money?

    Looks like more make work for lawyers... (the main purpose of gov't anyway)

    "... and of foreign coin"

    What does that mean?

    Yes, Congress has the sole power to COIN money. And "money" is gold and silver". It doesn't say Congress has the power to CREATE money.

    Texas is not coining money, it is thinking of digitizing bullion.
    .

    It may all be in the legalizes. We'll have to ask Billb. But with gift cards and coupons, and those 'mills' I was talking about. They aren't money, but they can be retrieved for money, could' they? Just like your bitcoines?

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  • From RichD@21:1/5 to Paul Popinjay on Thu Apr 13 14:09:01 2023
    On April 13, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    5000 years of being used as a store of value, ... it's scarce,

    Gold inflates at 2% per year.

    Like I said earlier. What is your fucking problem?

    Gold has built-in inflation of 2% per year.
    Do you deny this?

    Yes, I deny this.

    https://theconversation.com/gold-mining-is-one-of-the-worlds-most-destructive-and-unnecessary-industries-heres-how-to-end-it-197447


    PS Did you realize that the depression of 1930 was caused
    by deflation? Do you believe that falling prices had everyone
    dancing in the streets

    Again, what's your point?

    Your obsession with gold and inflation.

    You understand that inflation means inflating the currency
    supply. That's better than most, who don't get it, who think it's
    defined as rising prices.

    But otherwise, you're confused. Inflation doesn't always result
    in price rise, it can be the opposite. More important, inflation
    can be healthy, it can drive prosperity, the rising tide... under the
    right conditions.

    And finally, you believe deflation - literally, reduction in money
    supply - is good good good. Actually, the worst economic period
    in U.S. history was the result of deflation.

    But wait, how can falling prices be a bad thing....

    --
    Rich

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  • From Paul Popinjay@21:1/5 to RichD on Thu Apr 13 16:47:24 2023
    On Thursday, April 13, 2023 at 2:09:04 PM UTC-7, RichD wrote:
    On April 13, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    5000 years of being used as a store of value, ... it's scarce,

    Gold inflates at 2% per year.

    Like I said earlier. What is your fucking problem?

    Gold has built-in inflation of 2% per year.
    Do you deny this?

    Yes, I deny this.
    https://theconversation.com/gold-mining-is-one-of-the-worlds-most-destructive-and-unnecessary-industries-heres-how-to-end-it-197447
    PS Did you realize that the depression of 1930 was caused
    by deflation? Do you believe that falling prices had everyone
    dancing in the streets

    Again, what's your point?
    Your obsession with gold and inflation.

    You understand that inflation means inflating the currency
    supply. That's better than most, who don't get it, who think it's
    defined as rising prices.

    But otherwise, you're confused. Inflation doesn't always result
    in price rise, it can be the opposite. More important, inflation
    can be healthy, it can drive prosperity, the rising tide... under the
    right conditions.

    And finally, you believe deflation - literally, reduction in money
    supply - is good good good. Actually, the worst economic period
    in U.S. history was the result of deflation.

    But wait, how can falling prices be a bad thing....

    --
    Rich


    The Dollar is going to collapse. And you're nuts. Have a nice day.

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  • From Grunty@21:1/5 to Paul Popinjay on Fri Apr 14 07:39:08 2023
    On Thursday, April 13, 2023 at 8:47:27 PM UTC-3, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    On Thursday, April 13, 2023 at 2:09:04 PM UTC-7, RichD wrote:
    On April 13, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    5000 years of being used as a store of value, ... it's scarce,

    Gold inflates at 2% per year.

    Like I said earlier. What is your fucking problem?

    Gold has built-in inflation of 2% per year.
    Do you deny this?

    Yes, I deny this.
    https://theconversation.com/gold-mining-is-one-of-the-worlds-most-destructive-and-unnecessary-industries-heres-how-to-end-it-197447
    PS Did you realize that the depression of 1930 was caused
    by deflation? Do you believe that falling prices had everyone
    dancing in the streets

    Again, what's your point?
    Your obsession with gold and inflation.

    You understand that inflation means inflating the currency
    supply. That's better than most, who don't get it, who think it's
    defined as rising prices.

    But otherwise, you're confused. Inflation doesn't always result
    in price rise, it can be the opposite. More important, inflation
    can be healthy, it can drive prosperity, the rising tide... under the right conditions.

    And finally, you believe deflation - literally, reduction in money
    supply - is good good good. Actually, the worst economic period
    in U.S. history was the result of deflation.

    But wait, how can falling prices be a bad thing....

    --
    Rich

    The Dollar is going to collapse. And you're nuts. Have a nice day.

    Rich, you didn't know that Paul 'Popinjay' is actually Paul Krugman posting here in disguise.

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  • From RichD@21:1/5 to Grunty on Fri Apr 14 10:58:47 2023
    On April 14, Grunty wrote:
    Gold has built-in inflation of 2% per year.
    Do you deny this?

    Yes, I deny this.

    https://theconversation.com/gold-mining-is-one-of-the-worlds-most-destructive-and-unnecessary-industries-heres-how-to-end-it-197447

    PS Did you realize that the depression of 1930 was caused
    by deflation? Do you believe that falling prices had everyone
    dancing in the streets

    Again, what's your point?

    Your obsession with gold and inflation.
    And finally, you believe deflation - literally, reduction in money
    supply - is good good good. Actually, the worst economic period
    in U.S. history was the result of deflation.
    But wait, how can falling prices be a bad thing....

    The Dollar is going to collapse. And you're nuts. Have a nice day.

    Rich, you didn't know that Paul 'Popinjay' is actually Paul Krugman posting here in disguise.

    That's an awful thing to say.
    I wouldn't compare anyone to Krugman... except maybe
    Hannibal Lector... not even that, it would be unfair... to Hannibal -

    --
    Rich

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  • From Paul Popinjay@21:1/5 to Grunty on Fri Apr 14 11:09:43 2023
    On Friday, April 14, 2023 at 7:39:11 AM UTC-7, Grunty wrote:

    Rich, you didn't know that Paul 'Popinjay' is actually Paul Krugman posting here in disguise.


    Why are you insulting me so early in the morning, Grunty?

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  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to All on Fri Apr 14 11:45:15 2023
    * THE NEW YORK TIMES *

    Biggest U.S. Banks Report Bumper Profits Amid Industry Turmoil

    JPMorgan Chase, Citigroup and Wells Fargo comfortably
    beat expectations for earnings in the first quarter, when
    the failures of smaller banks sent jitters through the sector.

    The country’s largest banks escaped the crisis that just weeks ago brought down two midsize U.S. lenders, unnerving regulators and depositors. If anything, the tumult helped those giants rake in bumper profits.

    JPMorgan Chase, Citigroup and Wells Fargo on Friday unveiled banner earnings for the first three months of the year, making billions more than they and analysts had projected. Even as the banks warned that the economy was on tenterhooks and that credit
    could become scarce, they said they would keep making loans and expected stronger profits if interest rates continued to rise.

    The dynamic reflects that, in general, rising interest rates — which the Federal Reserve has been using to combat high inflation — allow banks to charge borrowers more for loans than what they pay depositors. The robust earnings reports Friday also
    signaled that the crisis caused by the collapse of Silicon Valley Bank and Signature Bank last month has strengthened the biggest U.S. banks.

    Most smaller, regional banks, some of which face perilous futures, will not report results until later this month. The good times for their largest rivals, however, are an ominous reminder that many bank customers have suddenly developed a strong
    preference for larger institutions that they believe to be safer and more stable.

    JPMorgan, the nation’s largest bank, reported strong revenue in most parts of its businesses, helping it post a profit of $12.6 billion in the first quarter, 52 percent more than a year earlier.

    The bank said that its loans had been steady in the quarter and that customer deposits had risen slightly from the last three months of 2022, with inflows picking up in particular after smaller depositors pulled their money out of smaller banks.

    JPMorgan’s chief executive, Jamie Dimon, who has taken a leading role in bailing out smaller lenders, said that the banking crisis was distinct, but that financial conditions were likely to tighten as lenders, including his own company, became more
    conservative.

    “We are going to eventually have a recession, but that may be pushed off a bit,” he said.

    JPMorgan set aside roughly $2.3 billion to protect against borrowers’ falling behind on their loans. That was up from $1.5 billion in the same quarter last year, largely because of a somewhat worse economic outlook, the bank said.

    Mr. Dimon’s view was underscored by economic data released on Friday: Retail sales fell 1 percent in March from the month before, the Commerce Department said, a weaker showing than analysts had expected.

    Staff at the Federal Reserve project that general banking turmoil will spur a “mild” recession later this year.

    Still, executives mostly expressed optimism on Friday about their banks’ prospects in conference calls to discuss their quarterly results.

    Citigroup, the country’s third-largest lender, reported a profit of $4.6 billion in the first quarter, up 7 percent from a year earlier and well ahead of the expectations of Wall Street analysts. Revenue jumped 12 percent. As for the regional bank
    tumult, Jane Fraser, Citigroup’s chief executive, said she did not see those issues as “pervasive throughout the broader banking industry.”

    The bank’s loan book was roughly unchanged, and deposits fell 3 percent from the previous quarter, though credit card lending was up 7 percent from a year earlier. UBS analysts said Citigroup, which has been slimming its international operations, still
    had “more wood to chop.”

    At Wells Fargo, “the majority of our businesses remain strong,” Charles Scharf, its chief executive, told analysts. Rising interest rates lifted the bank’s earnings as its loan portfolio grew, led by gains in personal lending and higher credit card
    balances.

    There was little sign that nervous depositors were fleeing to the safety of the lender, the nation’s fourth-largest bank. Deposits at Wells Fargo dropped $24 billion, or 2 percent, from the previous quarter. Loans were little changed.

    Delinquencies and write-offs of bad loans edged up, and the bank increased its reserve for future losses, citing commercial real estate — especially loans backed by office buildings — as well as credit cards and auto loans as areas of potential
    weakness. Consumer spending began to soften late in the quarter, Mr. Scharf said.

    Analysts are closely watching for signs of tightening lending that could lead to a credit crunch. Mr. Scharf said that Wells Fargo was “taking incremental actions to tighten credit on higher-risk segments,” but that he did not anticipate a broad
    pullback.

    Ms. Fraser of Citigroup said she was worried that regulatory changes in the wake of the smaller banks’ turmoil, which are likely to include demands that banks keep more cash on hand, “would exacerbate any credit tightening.”

    PNC Financial, the country’s sixth-largest bank, said on Friday that the industry volatility had ended up playing to its strengths. Its deposits grew slightly last quarter, and profit rose to $1.7 billion, up more than 18 percent from a year earlier.

    Although it has been swept up in the turmoil surrounding midsize banks, PNC, a so-called super regional lender, is bigger and more diversified than most regional financial institutions. PNC played a part in last month’s rescue plan for the ailing First
    Republic Bank, depositing $1 billion into the bank as part of a $30 billion deal engineered by Mr. Dimon.

    Investors mostly welcomed the earning reports by the big banks, their first look inside the books of the industry bellwethers since the failure of Silicon Valley and Signature Bank. JPMorgan’s stock was up about 7 percent around 1 p.m.

    “The banking system is very sound — it’s stable,” Lael Brainard, director of President Biden’s National Economic Council, said this week at an event in Washington.

    But some smaller banks could still struggle as customers rethink where they keep their money.

    Another larger financial institution that reported its first-quarter earnings, the investment management giant BlackRock, said it had been on the receiving end of $40 billion from clients looking to better manage their cash.

    “We expect to shift from deposits to money market funds to be a longer-term trend,” Laurence D. Fink, the company’s chief executive, said during a conference call with analysts, “and are actively working with clients to help them diversify and
    enhance the yield they’re earning on their cash.”
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  • From Grunty@21:1/5 to Paul Popinjay on Fri Apr 14 15:16:58 2023
    On Friday, April 14, 2023 at 3:09:48 PM UTC-3, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    On Friday, April 14, 2023 at 7:39:11 AM UTC-7, Grunty wrote:

    Rich, you didn't know that Paul 'Popinjay' is actually Paul Krugman posting here in disguise.
    Why are you insulting me so early in the morning, Grunty?

    Okay folks, was a bit too harsh. Now here's another Paul that hopefully will alleviate Paul's chronical mood. For Paul, who had his adolescence skipped:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjlvdcBAKdg&t=126s

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to paulpopinjay@sbcglobal.net on Sat Apr 15 13:59:20 2023
    Paul Popinjay <paulpopinjay@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
    ...
    The Dollar is going to collapse. ...

    Again?

    --bks

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  • From RichD@21:1/5 to Paul Popinjay on Sat Apr 15 12:05:50 2023
    On April 13, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    Texas is introducing a state measure to provide for a gold-backed digital >>> currency, redeemable in cash or gold.
    This made me suspicious so I checked:
    Article I, section 8:
    Legislative powers:
    "To coin money, regulate the value thereof ..."
    hmmm... does this mean the SOLE power? Are states
    forbidden to coin money?

    Yes, Congress has the sole power to COIN money. And "money"
    is gold and silver". It doesn't say Congress has the power to CREATE money. Texas is not coining money, it is thinking of digitizing bullion.

    I found something interesting - https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/86/Money_flower.png/450px-Money_flower.png


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    Rich

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  • From Paul Popinjay@21:1/5 to RichD on Sat Apr 15 13:20:00 2023
    On Saturday, April 15, 2023 at 12:05:54 PM UTC-7, RichD wrote:

    I found something interesting - https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/86/Money_flower.png/450px-Money_flower.png



    You don't need to give me flowers. I'm not mad at you.

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  • From RichD@21:1/5 to Paul Popinjay on Mon Apr 17 10:31:33 2023
    On April 13, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    Texas is not coining money, it is thinking of digitizing bullion.
    Strike that. Granted, this may prove tricky. I know as much as you do. So we will see.

    Article I, section 10:
    No State shall ... coin Money; emit Bills of Credit; make any Thing
    but gold and silver Coin a Tender in Payment of Debts;

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    Rich

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