• Trump Charge Sheet

    From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Tue Apr 4 19:54:07 2023
    <https://www.manhattanda.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/Donald-J.-Trump-SOF.pdf>

    --bks

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  • From jack roth@21:1/5 to Bradley K. Sherman on Tue Apr 4 14:44:07 2023
    On Tuesday, April 4, 2023 at 12:54:14 PM UTC-7, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
    <https://www.manhattanda.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/Donald-J.-Trump-SOF.pdf>

    --bks

    So, they ran out of ways to attack Trump finally and now the Deep State is down to using a hooker and a felon to take Trump down.
    These charges are complete bullshit, but what gets me is how they don't really go after Trump and all the other ruling class for what they really do. Buy a property....get your bank executive friend to value it at a much higher price and then have him
    give you low interest loans using the property as security. They all do that shit. Anyone think that golf course of Trump's is worth $1B? He gets loans for it, then he comps the bank guys to junkets and brings the bank guys new business that jacks up
    his book and commissions.

    Ya know, I wouldn't bother with most criminals...that shoplifter that nickel bagger drug dealer...so the fuck what....the ruling class steals billions and does all kinds of morbid shit at will. Doesn't matter the party...they all do it.

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  • From jack roth@21:1/5 to Bradley K. Sherman on Tue Apr 4 15:12:56 2023
    On Tuesday, April 4, 2023 at 2:51:16 PM UTC-7, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:

    I'm not sure I agree with you 100% on your policework there, Jack.

    His personal lawyer got 3 years for his part in the scheme. His
    lawyer didn't screw the porn star, his lawyer wasn't running for
    POTUS; the lawyer was working on Trump's behalf.
    1. Banging a porn star is legal.
    2. Paying somebody to STFU is done all the time and you could put the ENTIRE ruling class in jail for that because they all certainly misclassified it on their taxes. Fact is these business deducations are done daily and you could certainly scrutinize
    every single hush money description that has ever been documented by any and all ruling class types.
    3. Just because Trump's lawyer is working for him, doesn't mean Trump is guilty for all the actions of that attorney who may on his own feel the need to protect his employer for which he thinks he has a special relationship.

    The checks have Trump's signature on them.
    Funny that you make that claim when that hasn't been admitted into evidence yet, nor do we know the circumstances behind that, nor do we know what Trump thought he was writing a check for, nor do we know whether an automatic signature was used.

    --bks

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to jackdennisroth@gmail.com on Tue Apr 4 21:51:09 2023
    jack roth <jackdennisroth@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Tuesday, April 4, 2023 at 12:54:14 PM UTC-7, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
    <https://www.manhattanda.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/Donald-J.-Trump-SOF.pdf>
    So, they ran out of ways to attack Trump finally and now the Deep State
    is down to using a hooker and a felon to take Trump down.
    These charges are complete bullshit,
    ...

    I'm not sure I agree with you 100% on your policework there, Jack.

    His personal lawyer got 3 years for his part in the scheme. His
    lawyer didn't screw the porn star, his lawyer wasn't running for
    POTUS; the lawyer was working on Trump's behalf.

    The checks have Trump's signature on them.

    --bks

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to jackdennisroth@gmail.com on Tue Apr 4 22:16:16 2023
    jack roth <jackdennisroth@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Tuesday, April 4, 2023 at 2:51:16 PM UTC-7, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:

    I'm not sure I agree with you 100% on your policework there, Jack.

    His personal lawyer got 3 years for his part in the scheme. His
    lawyer didn't screw the porn star, his lawyer wasn't running for
    POTUS; the lawyer was working on Trump's behalf.
    1. Banging a porn star is legal.
    2. Paying somebody to STFU is done all the time and you could put the
    ENTIRE ruling class in jail for that because they all certainly
    misclassified it on their taxes. Fact is these business deducations are
    done daily and you could certainly scrutinize every single hush money >description that has ever been documented by any and all ruling class
    types.
    3. Just because Trump's lawyer is working for him, doesn't mean Trump
    is guilty for all the actions of that attorney who may on his own feel
    the need to protect his employer for which he thinks he has a special >relationship.

    You said the charges were "complete bullshit" which is clearly
    complete bullshit.

    --bks

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  • From jack roth@21:1/5 to Bradley K. Sherman on Tue Apr 4 15:21:03 2023
    On Tuesday, April 4, 2023 at 3:16:22 PM UTC-7, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
    jack roth <jackden...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Tuesday, April 4, 2023 at 2:51:16 PM UTC-7, Bradley K. Sherman wrote: >>
    I'm not sure I agree with you 100% on your policework there, Jack.

    His personal lawyer got 3 years for his part in the scheme. His
    lawyer didn't screw the porn star, his lawyer wasn't running for
    POTUS; the lawyer was working on Trump's behalf.
    1. Banging a porn star is legal.
    2. Paying somebody to STFU is done all the time and you could put the >ENTIRE ruling class in jail for that because they all certainly >misclassified it on their taxes. Fact is these business deducations are >done daily and you could certainly scrutinize every single hush money >description that has ever been documented by any and all ruling class >types.
    3. Just because Trump's lawyer is working for him, doesn't mean Trump
    is guilty for all the actions of that attorney who may on his own feel
    the need to protect his employer for which he thinks he has a special >relationship.
    You said the charges were "complete bullshit" which is clearly
    complete bullshit.

    --bks
    They are complete bullshit in that it's WAY WAY WAY past the statute of limitations. That alone should get him off. But, there's nothing wrong at all with paying people hush money.....it's standard operating procedure for the rich who say won't want
    employees talking. The DA is trying to argue with how these very LEGAL deductions were described....so the fuck what....Trump did nothing...not only that...there is no proof that he even knew about it.....not only that....anyone who could possibly
    claim he knew about it is either a non trustworthy felon former lawyer or a porn star who extorts people.

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to jackdennisroth@gmail.com on Tue Apr 4 22:27:44 2023
    jack roth <jackdennisroth@gmail.com> wrote:
    ...
    They are complete bullshit in that it's WAY WAY WAY past the statute of >limitations.
    ...

    Oh, so now you're not even arguing that he's innocent!

    I'm sure the Manhattan D.A. is unaware of the statute of
    limitations; you should give him a call.

    --bks

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  • From jack roth@21:1/5 to Bradley K. Sherman on Tue Apr 4 16:47:58 2023
    On Tuesday, April 4, 2023 at 3:27:50 PM UTC-7, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
    jack roth <jackden...@gmail.com> wrote:
    ...
    They are complete bullshit in that it's WAY WAY WAY past the statute of >limitations.
    ...

    Oh, so now you're not even arguing that he's innocent!

    Do I think Trump paid off the hooker? I dunno, but it doesn't matter because hush money to hookers is legal.


    I'm sure the Manhattan D.A. is unaware of the statute of
    limitations; you should give him a call.

    I'm sure the DA is aware and doesn't mind breaking the law because it's Trump. They want Trump and they'll break or ignore any rule or law they can to get him or at least dissuade him from running for President. Which is what this is all really about.

    --bks

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to jackdennisroth@gmail.com on Wed Apr 5 00:34:02 2023
    jack roth <jackdennisroth@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Tuesday, April 4, 2023 at 3:27:50 PM UTC-7, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
    jack roth <jackden...@gmail.com> wrote:
    ...
    They are complete bullshit in that it's WAY WAY WAY past the statute of
    limitations.
    ...

    Oh, so now you're not even arguing that he's innocent!

    Do I think Trump paid off the hooker? I dunno, but it doesn't matter
    because hush money to hookers is legal.
    ...

    Okay, now I see the problem: That's not the crime he's charged with!
    Here's a good link that has both the felony charges and the statement
    of fact:
    <https://www.lawfareblog.com/new-york-trump-indictment-unsealed>

    You might want to read it rather than rely on Eric Trump for your
    legal analysis.

    --bks

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  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to Bradley K. Sherman on Tue Apr 4 17:35:09 2023
    On Tuesday, April 4, 2023 at 3:16:22 PM UTC-7, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
    jack roth <jackden...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Tuesday, April 4, 2023 at 2:51:16 PM UTC-7, Bradley K. Sherman wrote: >>
    I'm not sure I agree with you 100% on your policework there, Jack.

    His personal lawyer got 3 years for his part in the scheme. His
    lawyer didn't screw the porn star, his lawyer wasn't running for
    POTUS; the lawyer was working on Trump's behalf.
    1. Banging a porn star is legal.
    2. Paying somebody to STFU is done all the time and you could put the >ENTIRE ruling class in jail for that because they all certainly >misclassified it on their taxes. Fact is these business deducations are >done daily and you could certainly scrutinize every single hush money >description that has ever been documented by any and all ruling class >types.
    3. Just because Trump's lawyer is working for him, doesn't mean Trump
    is guilty for all the actions of that attorney who may on his own feel
    the need to protect his employer for which he thinks he has a special >relationship.
    You said the charges were "complete bullshit" which is clearly
    complete bullshit.
    .

    That's all you'll ever get out of the jack ass... I've show that...





    --bks

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  • From jack roth@21:1/5 to Bradley K. Sherman on Tue Apr 4 18:58:34 2023
    On Tuesday, April 4, 2023 at 5:34:08 PM UTC-7, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
    jack roth <jackden...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Tuesday, April 4, 2023 at 3:27:50 PM UTC-7, Bradley K. Sherman wrote: >> jack roth <jackden...@gmail.com> wrote:
    ...
    They are complete bullshit in that it's WAY WAY WAY past the statute of >> >limitations.
    ...

    Oh, so now you're not even arguing that he's innocent!

    Do I think Trump paid off the hooker? I dunno, but it doesn't matter >because hush money to hookers is legal.
    ...

    Okay, now I see the problem: That's not the crime he's charged with!
    Here's a good link that has both the felony charges and the statement
    of fact:
    <https://www.lawfareblog.com/new-york-trump-indictment-unsealed>

    You might want to read it rather than rely on Eric Trump for your
    legal analysis.

    --bks

    So, you and jerry both seem to think you are geniuses in this case. Too bad there isn't a way to put money on it.

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  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to jack roth on Wed Apr 5 11:40:38 2023
    On Tuesday, April 4, 2023 at 6:58:37 PM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:
    On Tuesday, April 4, 2023 at 5:34:08 PM UTC-7, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
    jack roth <jackden...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Tuesday, April 4, 2023 at 3:27:50 PM UTC-7, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
    jack roth <jackden...@gmail.com> wrote:
    ...
    They are complete bullshit in that it's WAY WAY WAY past the statute of
    limitations.
    ...

    Oh, so now you're not even arguing that he's innocent!

    Do I think Trump paid off the hooker? I dunno, but it doesn't matter >because hush money to hookers is legal.
    ...

    Okay, now I see the problem: That's not the crime he's charged with! Here's a good link that has both the felony charges and the statement
    of fact:
    <https://www.lawfareblog.com/new-york-trump-indictment-unsealed>

    You might want to read it rather than rely on Eric Trump for your
    legal analysis.

    --bks
    .

    So, you and jerry both seem to think you are geniuses in this case.

    Compared to you, yea. Look at the ignorance of your statement:

    1. Banging a porn star is legal.

    Who said it was? That wasn’t the charge.

    2. Paying somebody to STFU is done all the time…

    Again, NOT THE CHARGE; and your stupid statement is in the category of “Two wrong make a right.”

    Fact is these business deducations are done daily and you could certainly scrutinize every
    single hush money description that has ever been documented by any and all ruling class types.

    And you missed the part where the DA said this case and these charges are simply one of dozens of similar cases his office charges.

    3. Just because Trump's lawyer is working for him, doesn't mean Trump
    is guilty for all the actions of that attorney who may on his own feel
    the need to protect his employer for which he thinks he has a special relationship.

    AGAIN. Read the fucking charges. How many times must we embarrass you before you run & hide in shame? (As if you had any…)

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  • From jack roth@21:1/5 to VegasJerry on Wed Apr 5 12:53:28 2023
    On Wednesday, April 5, 2023 at 11:40:43 AM UTC-7, VegasJerry wrote:
    On Tuesday, April 4, 2023 at 6:58:37 PM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:
    On Tuesday, April 4, 2023 at 5:34:08 PM UTC-7, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
    jack roth <jackden...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Tuesday, April 4, 2023 at 3:27:50 PM UTC-7, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
    jack roth <jackden...@gmail.com> wrote:
    ...
    They are complete bullshit in that it's WAY WAY WAY past the statute of
    limitations.
    ...

    Oh, so now you're not even arguing that he's innocent!

    Do I think Trump paid off the hooker? I dunno, but it doesn't matter >because hush money to hookers is legal.
    ...

    Okay, now I see the problem: That's not the crime he's charged with! Here's a good link that has both the felony charges and the statement
    of fact: <https://www.lawfareblog.com/new-york-trump-indictment-unsealed>

    You might want to read it rather than rely on Eric Trump for your
    legal analysis.

    --bks
    .
    So, you and jerry both seem to think you are geniuses in this case.
    Compared to you, yea. Look at the ignorance of your statement:
    1. Banging a porn star is legal.
    Who said it was? That wasn’t the charge.

    2. Paying somebody to STFU is done all the time…

    Again, NOT THE CHARGE; and your stupid statement is in the category of “Two wrong make a right.”
    Fact is these business deducations are done daily and you could certainly scrutinize every
    single hush money description that has ever been documented by any and all ruling class types.
    And you missed the part where the DA said this case and these charges are simply one of dozens of similar cases his office charges.
    3. Just because Trump's lawyer is working for him, doesn't mean Trump
    is guilty for all the actions of that attorney who may on his own feel
    the need to protect his employer for which he thinks he has a special relationship.
    AGAIN. Read the fucking charges. How many times must we embarrass you before you run & hide in shame? (As if you had any…)
    '
    Explain to me why Hillary gets a fine for the same charges, but Trump should get 34 felony counts.

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  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to jack roth on Wed Apr 5 13:04:51 2023
    On Wednesday, April 5, 2023 at 12:53:31 PM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:
    On Wednesday, April 5, 2023 at 11:40:43 AM UTC-7, VegasJerry wrote:
    On Tuesday, April 4, 2023 at 6:58:37 PM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:
    On Tuesday, April 4, 2023 at 5:34:08 PM UTC-7, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
    jack roth <jackden...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Tuesday, April 4, 2023 at 3:27:50 PM UTC-7, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
    jack roth <jackden...@gmail.com> wrote:
    ...
    They are complete bullshit in that it's WAY WAY WAY past the statute of
    limitations.
    ...

    Oh, so now you're not even arguing that he's innocent!

    Do I think Trump paid off the hooker? I dunno, but it doesn't matter >because hush money to hookers is legal.
    ...

    Okay, now I see the problem: That's not the crime he's charged with! Here's a good link that has both the felony charges and the statement of fact: <https://www.lawfareblog.com/new-york-trump-indictment-unsealed>

    You might want to read it rather than rely on Eric Trump for your legal analysis.

    --bks
    .
    So, you and jerry both seem to think you are geniuses in this case.
    Compared to you, yea. Look at the ignorance of your statement:
    1. Banging a porn star is legal.
    Who said it was? That wasn’t the charge.

    2. Paying somebody to STFU is done all the time…

    Again, NOT THE CHARGE; and your stupid statement is in the category of “Two wrong make a right.”
    Fact is these business deducations are done daily and you could certainly scrutinize every
    single hush money description that has ever been documented by any and all ruling class types.
    And you missed the part where the DA said this case and these charges are simply one of dozens of similar cases his office charges.
    3. Just because Trump's lawyer is working for him, doesn't mean Trump
    is guilty for all the actions of that attorney who may on his own feel the need to protect his employer for which he thinks he has a special relationship.
    AGAIN. Read the fucking charges. How many times must we embarrass you before you run & hide in shame? (As if you had any…)
    '
    .

    Explain to me why Hillary ...

    NO, you cowardly dodger. YOU go back and SHOW, LINK and explain your ignorance....
    .
    .
    .





    gets a fine for the same charges, but Trump should get 34 felony counts.

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  • From jack roth@21:1/5 to VegasJerry on Wed Apr 5 19:13:53 2023
    On Wednesday, April 5, 2023 at 1:04:55 PM UTC-7, VegasJerry wrote:
    On Wednesday, April 5, 2023 at 12:53:31 PM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:
    On Wednesday, April 5, 2023 at 11:40:43 AM UTC-7, VegasJerry wrote:
    On Tuesday, April 4, 2023 at 6:58:37 PM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:
    On Tuesday, April 4, 2023 at 5:34:08 PM UTC-7, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
    jack roth <jackden...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Tuesday, April 4, 2023 at 3:27:50 PM UTC-7, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
    jack roth <jackden...@gmail.com> wrote:
    ...
    They are complete bullshit in that it's WAY WAY WAY past the statute of
    limitations.
    ...

    Oh, so now you're not even arguing that he's innocent!

    Do I think Trump paid off the hooker? I dunno, but it doesn't matter
    because hush money to hookers is legal.
    ...

    Okay, now I see the problem: That's not the crime he's charged with! Here's a good link that has both the felony charges and the statement
    of fact: <https://www.lawfareblog.com/new-york-trump-indictment-unsealed>

    You might want to read it rather than rely on Eric Trump for your legal analysis.

    --bks
    .
    So, you and jerry both seem to think you are geniuses in this case.
    Compared to you, yea. Look at the ignorance of your statement:
    1. Banging a porn star is legal.
    Who said it was? That wasn’t the charge.

    2. Paying somebody to STFU is done all the time…

    Again, NOT THE CHARGE; and your stupid statement is in the category of “Two wrong make a right.”
    Fact is these business deducations are done daily and you could certainly scrutinize every
    single hush money description that has ever been documented by any and all ruling class types.
    And you missed the part where the DA said this case and these charges are simply one of dozens of similar cases his office charges.
    3. Just because Trump's lawyer is working for him, doesn't mean Trump is guilty for all the actions of that attorney who may on his own feel the need to protect his employer for which he thinks he has a special relationship.
    AGAIN. Read the fucking charges. How many times must we embarrass you before you run & hide in shame? (As if you had any…)
    '
    .

    Explain to me why Hillary ...

    NO, you cowardly dodger. YOU go back and SHOW, LINK and explain your ignorance....
    .
    .
    .
    gets a fine for the same charges, but Trump should get 34 felony counts.

    RIP Jerry

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  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to jack roth on Thu Apr 6 12:28:03 2023
    On Wednesday, April 5, 2023 at 7:13:57 PM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:
    On Wednesday, April 5, 2023 at 1:04:55 PM UTC-7, VegasJerry wrote:
    On Wednesday, April 5, 2023 at 12:53:31 PM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:
    On Wednesday, April 5, 2023 at 11:40:43 AM UTC-7, VegasJerry wrote:
    On Tuesday, April 4, 2023 at 6:58:37 PM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:
    On Tuesday, April 4, 2023 at 5:34:08 PM UTC-7, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
    jack roth <jackden...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Tuesday, April 4, 2023 at 3:27:50 PM UTC-7, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
    jack roth <jackden...@gmail.com> wrote:
    ...
    They are complete bullshit in that it's WAY WAY WAY past the statute of
    limitations.
    ...

    Oh, so now you're not even arguing that he's innocent!

    Do I think Trump paid off the hooker? I dunno, but it doesn't matter
    because hush money to hookers is legal.
    ...

    Okay, now I see the problem: That's not the crime he's charged with!
    Here's a good link that has both the felony charges and the statement
    of fact: <https://www.lawfareblog.com/new-york-trump-indictment-unsealed>

    You might want to read it rather than rely on Eric Trump for your legal analysis.

    --bks
    .
    So, you and jerry both seem to think you are geniuses in this case.
    Compared to you, yea. Look at the ignorance of your statement:
    1. Banging a porn star is legal.
    Who said it was? That wasn’t the charge.

    2. Paying somebody to STFU is done all the time…

    Again, NOT THE CHARGE; and your stupid statement is in the category of “Two wrong make a right.”
    Fact is these business deducations are done daily and you could certainly scrutinize every
    single hush money description that has ever been documented by any and all ruling class types.
    And you missed the part where the DA said this case and these charges are simply one of dozens of similar cases his office charges.
    3. Just because Trump's lawyer is working for him, doesn't mean Trump
    is guilty for all the actions of that attorney who may on his own feel
    the need to protect his employer for which he thinks he has a special
    relationship.
    AGAIN. Read the fucking charges. How many times must we embarrass you before you run & hide in shame? (As if you had any…)
    .

    *** KNEW YOU COULDN'T ANSWER ***
    *** KNEW YOU'D RUN ***
    .
    .


    '
    .

    Explain to me why Hillary ...

    NO, you cowardly dodger. YOU go back and SHOW, LINK and explain your ignorance....
    .

    RIP Jerry
    .

    *** KNEW YOU COULDN'T ***
    *** KNEW YOU'D RUN ***

    You are so fucking easy...
    .
    .

    gets a fine for the same charges, but Trump should get 34 felony counts.
    .

    (Along with you being wrong here, too. LOL).

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