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1st Ed AD&D or HackMaster v4.0

I never reconciled the rule the limits your languages based on
Intelligence and additional racial languages known at start.

So a HackMaster Drow at start is supposed to know Common, Drow, Elf, Undercommon-Trade, Kuo-Toa, Orcish, Bugbear, Dwarf, Gnome, and Drow
Sign language.

But you need an Intelligence of 21 to know ten languages!

So do I therefore cut the number of languages down to INT level and let
the Player chose which ones?

Or do I aggregate the racial benefit (above of ten) as the one Common
language any character knows at start?

If there is a caveat on this I missed it.

Tracy Johnson
Old fashioned text games hosted below:
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tmjva@verizon.net wrote:

1st Ed AD&D or HackMaster v4.0

I never reconciled the rule the limits your languages based on
Intelligence and additional racial languages known at start.

So a HackMaster Drow at start is supposed to know Common, Drow, Elf, >Undercommon-Trade, Kuo-Toa, Orcish, Bugbear, Dwarf, Gnome, and Drow
Sign language.

But you need an Intelligence of 21 to know ten languages!

So do I therefore cut the number of languages down to INT level and let
the Player chose which ones?

Or do I aggregate the racial benefit (above of ten) as the one Common >language any character knows at start?

If there is a caveat on this I missed it.

I remember racial languages being in addition to the bonus languages
from high intelligence.

Why play a human, right? :-D


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In article <n00ka9$6ue$8@dont-email.me>, weberm@polaris.net wrote: >tmjva@verizon.net wrote:

1st Ed AD&D or HackMaster v4.0

I never reconciled the rule the limits your languages based on
Intelligence and additional racial languages known at start.

So a HackMaster Drow at start is supposed to know Common, Drow, Elf, >>Undercommon-Trade, Kuo-Toa, Orcish, Bugbear, Dwarf, Gnome, and Drow
Sign language.

But you need an Intelligence of 21 to know ten languages!

So do I therefore cut the number of languages down to INT level and let
the Player chose which ones?

Or do I aggregate the racial benefit (above of ten) as the one Common >>language any character knows at start?

If there is a caveat on this I missed it.

I remember racial languages being in addition to the bonus languages
from high intelligence.

Why play a human, right? :-D

--
The SJW, isn’t for justice, social or otherwise. An SJW – as I have
observed – is a neo-liberal fascist with delusions of grandeur that
peppers their tenuous logic with enough newspeak-esque lingo that even
Orwell himself would step back and say, ‘oh snap!’.

Thanks!

Now if that is the case (and if HackMaster), aside from their native
language, then should I give them 100% ability?

Or a percentage as a "Modern Language" skill for each Language?

INT plus 1d10 plus Honor Die.

Tracy Johnson
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In article <n00ka9$6ue$8@dont-email.me>, weberm@polaris.net wrote: >tmjva@verizon.net wrote:

1st Ed AD&D or HackMaster v4.0

I never reconciled the rule the limits your languages based on
Intelligence and additional racial languages known at start.

So a HackMaster Drow at start is supposed to know Common, Drow, Elf, >>Undercommon-Trade, Kuo-Toa, Orcish, Bugbear, Dwarf, Gnome, and Drow
Sign language.

But you need an Intelligence of 21 to know ten languages!

So do I therefore cut the number of languages down to INT level and let
the Player chose which ones?

Or do I aggregate the racial benefit (above of ten) as the one Common >>language any character knows at start?

If there is a caveat on this I missed it.

I remember racial languages being in addition to the bonus languages
from high intelligence.

Why play a human, right? :-D

In 1st Ed AD&D, non-humans had a limit to how many additional languages they could learn, independent of the number on the Intelligence table.

Dwarf, Gnome, and Half-Orc: Racial languages plus a maximum of two additional languages, even if Intelligence would normally allow more.

Elf: Racial languages plus one additional language per point of Intelligence over 15.

Half-Elf and Halfling: Racial languages plus one additional language per point of Intelligence over 16.

For the Unearthed Arcana races, Duergar were the same as other Dwarves, with Drow and Svirfneblin not specified beyond "the limit prescribed by
intelligence score" and "depending on intelligence" respectively, so I would assume they use the existing elf and gnome limits.
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There's a job to be done, a fight to be won."

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In article <56F6E89B.604@rochester.rr.com>, msears908@rochester.rr.com wrote: >In article <n00ka9$6ue$8@dont-email.me>, weberm@polaris.net wrote: >>tmjva@verizon.net wrote:

1st Ed AD&D or HackMaster v4.0

I never reconciled the rule the limits your languages based on >>>Intelligence and additional racial languages known at start.

So a HackMaster Drow at start is supposed to know Common, Drow, Elf, >>>Undercommon-Trade, Kuo-Toa, Orcish, Bugbear, Dwarf, Gnome, and Drow
Sign language.

But you need an Intelligence of 21 to know ten languages!

So do I therefore cut the number of languages down to INT level and let >>>the Player chose which ones?

Or do I aggregate the racial benefit (above of ten) as the one Common >>>language any character knows at start?

If there is a caveat on this I missed it.

I remember racial languages being in addition to the bonus languages
from high intelligence.

Why play a human, right? :-D

In 1st Ed AD&D, non-humans had a limit to how many additional languages they >could learn, independent of the number on the Intelligence table.

Dwarf, Gnome, and Half-Orc: Racial languages plus a maximum of two additional >languages, even if Intelligence would normally allow more.

Elf: Racial languages plus one additional language per point of Intelligence >over 15.

Half-Elf and Halfling: Racial languages plus one additional language per point >of Intelligence over 16.

For the Unearthed Arcana races, Duergar were the same as other Dwarves, with >Drow and Svirfneblin not specified beyond "the limit prescribed by >intelligence score" and "depending on intelligence" respectively, so I would >assume they use the existing elf and gnome limits.

Actually I found my answer in the small print of an asterisked notation in the "... at a glance" box for each race:

* The number of languages {name your race here} can learn is limited by his Intelligence (see Table 1D) or by the Building Points he devotes to languages.

If I rules lawyer this, in effect the "or" statement means they can exceed the Intelligence table with building points. But building points can only be used at character creation, so if they don't use them (for languages), they lose them.

Tracy Johnson
Old fashioned text games hosted below:
http:?//empire.?openmpe.?com/empire/?
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