Maybe I should get rid of that horrible tasting thyme and replace it
with something that makes foods taste better instead of worse.
Maybe I should get rid of that horrible tasting thyme and replace it
with something that makes foods taste better instead of worse.
On 2024-05-03 18:22:06 +0000, Dave Smith said:
Maybe I should get rid of that horrible tasting thyme and replace
it with something that makes foods taste better instead of worse.
Greek, Italian, Cajun and French food all like some thyme and many
things braised. Also nice in soups and makes a pleasing garnish as
well. It's also know to ward off evil. I wouldn't bank on that one
though. Maybe you use too much of it.
Yes, I could absolutely do without it but it can add a nice subtle
underlying note to a lot of dishes...and would personally use more
cilantro, basil and maybe mint than any of the other herbs you
mention. Dried oregano is better than fresh IMO .. with a preference
for Mexican oregano over Greek.
On 2024-05-03 18:22:06 +0000, Dave Smith said:
Maybe I should get rid of that horrible tasting thyme and replace it
with something that makes foods taste better instead of worse.
Greek, Italian, Cajun and French food all like some thyme and many
things braised. Also nice in soups and makes a pleasing garnish as
well. It's also know to ward off evil. I wouldn't bank on that one though. Maybe you use too much of it.
Yes, I could absolutely do without it but it can add a nice subtle
underlying note to a lot of dishes...and would personally use more
cilantro, basil and maybe mint than any of the other herbs you mention.
Dried oregano is better than fresh IMO .. with a preference for Mexican oregano over Greek.
On 2024-05-03 3:44 p.m., bob wrote:
On 2024-05-03 18:22:06 +0000, Dave Smith said:I think it was Graham who said I had the wrong kind of thyme and
Maybe I should get rid of that horrible tasting thyme and replace it
with something that makes foods taste better instead of worse.
Greek, Italian, Cajun and French food all like some thyme and many
things braised. Also nice in soups and makes a pleasing garnish as
well. It's also know to ward off evil. I wouldn't bank on that one
though. Maybe you use too much of it.
suggested another type that was better. After I used it the first time I
was disgusted with the results, so the next time something called for
thyme I cut way back, but not back enough. Then I went back to using dried.
Yes, I could absolutely do without it but it can add a nice subtleI would add dill weed to that list. We eat a lot of salmon and that is
underlying note to a lot of dishes...and would personally use more
cilantro, basil and maybe mint than any of the other herbs you
mention. Dried oregano is better than fresh IMO .. with a preference
for Mexican oregano over Greek.
always nicer with dill weed. When we stayed with friends in Sweden a
few years back we discovered how much they like their dill. Our hostess
would throw a fistful into the water with the potatoes.
On my todo list is to make gravlox, and that calls for a healthy amount
of fresh dill weed.
On 2024-05-03 3:44 p.m., bob wrote:
On 2024-05-03 18:22:06 +0000, Dave Smith said:I think it was Graham who said I had the wrong kind of thyme and
Maybe I should get rid of that horrible tasting thyme and replace it
with something that makes foods taste better instead of worse.
Greek, Italian, Cajun and French food all like some thyme and many
things braised. Also nice in soups and makes a pleasing garnish as
well. It's also know to ward off evil. I wouldn't bank on that one
though. Maybe you use too much of it.
suggested another type that was better. After I used it the first time
I was disgusted with the results, so the next time something called for
thyme I cut way back, but not back enough. Then I went back to using
dried.
Yes, I could absolutely do without it but it can add a nice subtleI would add dill weed to that list. We eat a lot of salmon and that is
underlying note to a lot of dishes...and would personally use more
cilantro, basil and maybe mint than any of the other herbs you mention.
Dried oregano is better than fresh IMO .. with a preference for Mexican
oregano over Greek.
always nicer with dill weed. When we stayed with friends in Sweden a
few years back we discovered how much they like their dill. Our hostess
would throw a fistful into the water with the potatoes.
On my todo list is to make gravlox, and that calls for a healthy amount
of fresh dill weed.
dill is a herb that I detest
They bolt pretty early here.
I may be taking a chance but it is a pleasant day here and I took the opportunity to clean up the garden and plant some herbs. I started off
off small, just the essentials... parsley, cilantro, basil and dill. I
am counting on sage, thyme, mint and oregano having survived the winter. Maybe I should get rid of that horrible tasting thyme and replace it
with something that makes foods taste better instead of worse.
dill is a herb that I detest
On 2024-05-03 3:31 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:
On 2024-05-03 3:44 p.m., bob wrote:
On 2024-05-03 18:22:06 +0000, Dave Smith said:I think it was Graham who said I had the wrong kind of thyme and
Maybe I should get rid of that horrible tasting thyme and replace it
with something that makes foods taste better instead of worse.
Greek, Italian, Cajun and French food all like some thyme and many
things braised. Also nice in soups and makes a pleasing garnish as
well. It's also know to ward off evil. I wouldn't bank on that one
though. Maybe you use too much of it.
suggested another type that was better. After I used it the first time
I was disgusted with the results, so the next time something called for
thyme I cut way back, but not back enough. Then I went back to using
dried.
Yes, I could absolutely do without it but it can add a nice subtleI would add dill weed to that list. We eat a lot of salmon and that is
underlying note to a lot of dishes...and would personally use more
cilantro, basil and maybe mint than any of the other herbs you mention.
Dried oregano is better than fresh IMO .. with a preference for Mexican
oregano over Greek.
always nicer with dill weed. When we stayed with friends in Sweden a
few years back we discovered how much they like their dill. Our hostess
would throw a fistful into the water with the potatoes.
On my todo list is to make gravlox, and that calls for a healthy amount
of fresh dill weed.
I don't recall the thyme advice but dill is a herb that I detest.
On 2024-05-03 3:44 p.m., bob wrote:
On 2024-05-03 18:22:06 +0000, Dave Smith said:I think it was Graham who said I had the wrong kind of thyme and
Maybe I should get rid of that horrible tasting thyme and replace it
with something that makes foods taste better instead of worse.
Greek, Italian, Cajun and French food all like some thyme and many
things braised. Also nice in soups and makes a pleasing garnish as
well. It's also know to ward off evil. I wouldn't bank on that one
though. Maybe you use too much of it.
suggested another type that was better. After I used it the first time
I was disgusted with the results, so the next time something called for
thyme I cut way back, but not back enough. Then I went back to using
dried.
Yes, I could absolutely do without it but it can add a nice subtleI would add dill weed to that list. We eat a lot of salmon and that is
underlying note to a lot of dishes...and would personally use more
cilantro, basil and maybe mint than any of the other herbs you mention.
Dried oregano is better than fresh IMO .. with a preference for Mexican
oregano over Greek.
always nicer with dill weed. When we stayed with friends in Sweden a
few years back we discovered how much they like their dill. Our hostess
would throw a fistful into the water with the potatoes.
On my todo list is to make gravlox, and that calls for a healthy amount
of fresh dill weed.
On 2024-05-03 21:31:31 +0000, Dave Smith said:
On 2024-05-03 3:44 p.m., bob wrote:
On 2024-05-03 18:22:06 +0000, Dave Smith said:I think it was Graham who said I had the wrong kind of thyme and suggested another type that was better. After I used it the first
Maybe I should get rid of that horrible tasting thyme and replace
it with something that makes foods taste better instead of worse.
Greek, Italian, Cajun and French food all like some thyme and many
things braised. Also nice in soups and makes a pleasing garnish as
well. It's also know to ward off evil. I wouldn't bank on that
one though. Maybe you use too much of it.
time I was disgusted with the results, so the next time something
called for thyme I cut way back, but not back enough. Then I went
back to using dried.
Yes, I could absolutely do without it but it can add a nice subtleI would add dill weed to that list. We eat a lot of salmon and that
underlying note to a lot of dishes...and would personally use more
cilantro, basil and maybe mint than any of the other herbs you
mention. Dried oregano is better than fresh IMO .. with a
preference for Mexican oregano over Greek.
is always nicer with dill weed. When we stayed with friends in
Sweden a few years back we discovered how much they like their
dill. Our hostess would throw a fistful into the water with the
potatoes.
On my todo list is to make gravlox, and that calls for a healthy
amount of fresh dill weed.
If I only grew one herb it would be basil. Dried basil is
useless...green sawdust with no flavor. Cilantro is so readily
available and very inexpensive that it's hardly worth growing it IMO.
So pull out the thyme and plants some tomatoes to go with the basil.
On 2024-05-03, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
I may be taking a chance but it is a pleasant day here and I took the
opportunity to clean up the garden and plant some herbs. I started off
off small, just the essentials... parsley, cilantro, basil and dill. I
am counting on sage, thyme, mint and oregano having survived the winter.
Maybe I should get rid of that horrible tasting thyme and replace it
with something that makes foods taste better instead of worse.
I don't have much luck with cilantro and dill. They bolt pretty
early here.
If I only grew one herb it would be basil. Dried basil is>
useless...green sawdust with no flavor. Cilantro is so readily>
available and very inexpensive that it's hardly worth growing it IMO.>
So pull out the thyme and plants some tomatoes to go with the basil.
May I recommend:
https://aerogarden.com/gardens/harvest-family/harvest-xl.html
or...
https://aerogarden.com/gardens/farm-family/farm-24-basic.html
And:
https://aerogarden.com/learning/types-of-basil.html
Thai
Anise, licorice & slightly spicy
Marseille
Sweet and slightly of licorice, highly aromatic
Lemon
Lemony, pure, clean, and crisp
I have to remember to keep an eye on the
On 2024-05-03 22:30:23 +0000, Jordan Almond said:
If I only grew one herb it would be basil. Dried basil is>
useless...green sawdust with no flavor. Cilantro is so readily>
available and very inexpensive that it's hardly worth growing it
IMO.> So pull out the thyme and plants some tomatoes to go with
the basil.
May I recommend:
https://aerogarden.com/gardens/harvest-family/harvest-xl.html
or...
https://aerogarden.com/gardens/farm-family/farm-24-basic.html
And:
https://aerogarden.com/learning/types-of-basil.html
Thai
Anise, licorice & slightly spicy
Marseille
Sweet and slightly of licorice, highly aromatic
Lemon
Lemony, pure, clean, and crisp
We have grown Thai and Lemon but not at all familiar with Marseille.
I don't recall the thyme advice but dill is a herb that I detest.
I may be taking a chance but it is a pleasant day here and I took the opportunity to clean up the garden and plant some herbs. I started off
off small, just the essentials... parsley, cilantro, basil and dill. I
am counting on sage, thyme, mint and oregano having survived the winter. Maybe I should get rid of that horrible tasting thyme and replace it
with something that makes foods taste better instead of worse.
Dave Smith wrote:
I may be taking a chance but it is a pleasant day here and I took theWhy does your thyme taste horrible?
opportunity to clean up the garden and plant some herbs. I started off
off small, just the essentials... parsley, cilantro, basil and dill. I
am counting on sage, thyme, mint and oregano having survived the winter.
Maybe I should get rid of that horrible tasting thyme and replace it
with something that makes foods taste better instead of worse.
Graham wrote:
...
I don't recall the thyme advice but dill is a herb that I detest.
haha, funny how tastes can differ, when i was making
pickles i would put extra dill in the jar because i
liked that better than the pickles.\
when i go outside and work in certain gardens i'll
often find some fresh dill and eat it right then. to
me it just tastes like a different kind of parsley.
i also really like the celery leaves from inside the
bunch no matter how bitter they might be and parsley
along with that cilantro... all so good to me. :)
songbird
I don't have much luck with cilantro and dill. They bolt pretty
early here.
On 2024-05-03 8:53 p.m., songbird wrote:
Graham wrote:
...
I don't recall the thyme advice but dill is a herb that I detest.
haha, funny how tastes can differ, when i was making
pickles i would put extra dill in the jar because i
liked that better than the pickles.\
There is a world of difference between dill weed and dill seed. The
latter is used for dill pickles and other brined vegetables. It took me
years to acquire a taste for them. I love dill weed on salmon. My herb garden is next to the patio and when I grill salmon on the BBQ I like to
grab some fresh dill weed and put in on the salmon.
when i go outside and work in certain gardens i'll
often find some fresh dill and eat it right then. to
me it just tastes like a different kind of parsley.
i also really like the celery leaves from inside the
bunch no matter how bitter they might be and parsley
along with that cilantro... all so good to me. :)
songbird
If I only grew one herb it would be basil. Dried basil is
useless...green sawdust with no flavor. Cilantro is so readily
available and very inexpensive that it's hardly worth growing it IMO.
Other than pickles what else is there for dill?
I actually think
salmon is better without dill. I remember that dill and salmon was the
rage a numbers of decades ago.
On 2024-05-03, bob <bob@sympatico.com> wrote:
If I only grew one herb it would be basil. Dried basil is
useless...green sawdust with no flavor. Cilantro is so readily
available and very inexpensive that it's hardly worth growing it IMO.
My problem is that I need small amounts of cilantro relatively
infrequently. If I buy a bunch at the grocery store, most of
it ends up going bad. Even frozen as a sort of pesto, it's not
at all the same when defrosted. Especially considering my preferred
use for it is to add sprigs to green salad or quesadillas.
bob wrote:
...cilantro...
Yes it does have a very short life. I use a lot of it when I use it...
and of course you get more mileage if you keep it very dry. I've grown
it and even in the ground it has a short life for me as it gets so
lanky as you mentioned.
i have bottles of hot sauce that include plenty of
cilantro so that is the form of that flavor that i use
most of the time.
songbird
On 2024-05-03, bob <bob@sympatico.com> wrote:
If I only grew one herb it would be basil. Dried basil is
useless...green sawdust with no flavor. Cilantro is so readily
available and very inexpensive that it's hardly worth growing it IMO.
My problem is that I need small amounts of cilantro relatively
infrequently. If I buy a bunch at the grocery store, most of
it ends up going bad. Even frozen as a sort of pesto, it's not
at all the same when defrosted. Especially considering my preferred
use for it is to add sprigs to green salad or quesadillas.
Yes it does have a very short life. I use a lot of it when I use it...
and of course you get more mileage if you keep it very dry. I've grown
it and even in the ground it has a short life for me as it gets so
lanky as you mentioned.
On 2024-05-03 3:31 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:dried.
On 2024-05-03 3:44 p.m., bob wrote:
On 2024-05-03 18:22:06 +0000, Dave Smith said:I think it was Graham who said I had the wrong kind of thyme and
Maybe I should get rid of that horrible tasting thyme and replace it
with something that makes foods taste better instead of worse.
Greek, Italian, Cajun and French food all like some thyme and many
things braised. Also nice in soups and makes a pleasing garnish as
well. It's also know to ward off evil. I wouldn't bank on that one
though. Maybe you use too much of it.
suggested another type that was better. After I used it the first time I
was disgusted with the results, so the next time something called for
thyme I cut way back, but not back enough. Then I went back to using
Yes, I could absolutely do without it but it can add a nice subtleI would add dill weed to that list. We eat a lot of salmon and that is
underlying note to a lot of dishes...and would personally use more
cilantro, basil and maybe mint than any of the other herbs you
mention. Dried oregano is better than fresh IMO .. with a preference
for Mexican oregano over Greek.
always nicer with dill weed. When we stayed with friends in Sweden a
few years back we discovered how much they like their dill. Our hostess
would throw a fistful into the water with the potatoes.
On my todo list is to make gravlox, and that calls for a healthy amount
of fresh dill weed.
I don't recall the thyme advice but dill is a herb that I detest.
On 2024-05-04 13:20:51 +0000, songbird said:
bob wrote:
...cilantro...
Yes it does have a very short life. I use a lot of it when I use it...
and of course you get more mileage if you keep it very dry. I've grown
it and even in the ground it has a short life for me as it gets so
lanky as you mentioned.
i have bottles of hot sauce that include plenty of
cilantro so that is the form of that flavor that i use
most of the time.
Not familiar with a brand of hot sauce that is heavy on
cilantro...assuming it's not homemade.
Dave Smith wrote:
I may be taking a chance but it is a pleasant day here and I took
the opportunity to clean up the garden and plant some herbs. I
started off off small, just the essentials... parsley, cilantro,
basil and dill. I am counting on sage, thyme, mint and oregano
having survived the winter. Maybe I should get rid of that horrible
tasting thyme and replace it with something that makes foods taste
better instead of worse.
Why does your thyme taste horrible?
i also really like the celery leaves from inside the
bunch no matter how bitter they might be
my preferred
use for it is to add sprigs to green salad or quesadillas
My herb garden is next to the patio
On 2024-05-04 13:20:51 +0000, songbird said:
bob wrote:
...cilantro...
Yes it does have a very short life. I use a lot of it when I use
it... and of course you get more mileage if you keep it very dry.
I've grown it and even in the ground it has a short life for me as
it gets so lanky as you mentioned.
i have bottles of hot sauce that include plenty of
cilantro so that is the form of that flavor that i use
most of the time.
songbird
Not familiar with a brand of hot sauce that is heavy on
cilantro...assuming it's not homemade.
I have a black thumb
On Fri, 3 May 2024, Graham wrote:
On 2024-05-03 3:31 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:
On 2024-05-03 3:44 p.m., bob wrote:
On 2024-05-03 18:22:06 +0000, Dave Smith said:I think it was Graham who said I had the wrong kind of thyme and
Maybe I should get rid of that horrible tasting thyme and
replace it with something that makes foods taste better instead
of worse.
Greek, Italian, Cajun and French food all like some thyme and
many things braised. Also nice in soups and makes a pleasing
garnish as well. It's also know to ward off evil. I wouldn't
bank on that one though. Maybe you use too much of it.
suggested another type that was better. After I used it the first
time I was disgusted with the results, so the next time something
called for thyme I cut way back, but not back enough. Then I went
back to using dried.
Yes, I could absolutely do without it but it can add a niceI would add dill weed to that list. We eat a lot of salmon and
subtle underlying note to a lot of dishes...and would personally
use more cilantro, basil and maybe mint than any of the other
herbs you mention. Dried oregano is better than fresh IMO .. with
a preference for Mexican oregano over Greek.
that is always nicer with dill weed. When we stayed with friends
in Sweden a few years back we discovered how much they like their
dill. Our hostess would throw a fistful into the water with the
potatoes.
On my todo list is to make gravlox, and that calls for a healthy
amount of fresh dill weed.
I don't recall the thyme advice but dill is a herb that I detest.
Ahh... gravad lax is the king of lax! One of the very few ways that I
enjoy lax. Smoked can be good, but it needs to be heavily smoked, and "rimmad lax" (https://www.ica.se/recept/rimmad-lax-358265/). Highly recommended!
On Sat, 4 May 2024 08:01:25 -0600
bob <bob@sympatico.com> wrote:
On 2024-05-04 13:20:51 +0000, songbird said:It's good stuff:
bob wrote:
...cilantro...
Yes it does have a very short life. I use a lot of it when I use
it... and of course you get more mileage if you keep it very dry.
I've grown it and even in the ground it has a short life for me as
it gets so lanky as you mentioned.
i have bottles of hot sauce that include plenty of
cilantro so that is the form of that flavor that i use
most of the time.
songbird
Not familiar with a brand of hot sauce that is heavy on>
cilantro...assuming it's not homemade.
https://mexicanstore.ca/products/herdez-cilantro-lime-salsa-cremosa-434g HERDEZ Cilantro Lime Salsa Cremosa is a fusion of vibrant and fresh ingredients, meticulously blended to deliver an explosion of flavours.
The tangy tomatillos lend a delightful tartness, while the lime adds a refreshing citrusy punch. Combined with the subtle heat of jalapeno and
the aromatic garlic, this salsa cremosa creates a harmony of taste that
will leave you craving more.
On 2024-05-04 17:17:17 +0000, Marge Or Rum said:
On Sat, 4 May 2024 08:01:25 -0600
bob <bob@sympatico.com> wrote:
On 2024-05-04 13:20:51 +0000, songbird said:It's good stuff:
bob wrote:
...cilantro...
Yes it does have a very short life. I use a lot of it when I use
it... and of course you get more mileage if you keep it very dry.
I've grown it and even in the ground it has a short life for me
as it gets so lanky as you mentioned.
i have bottles of hot sauce that include plenty of
cilantro so that is the form of that flavor that i use
most of the time.
songbird
Not familiar with a brand of hot sauce that is heavy on>
cilantro...assuming it's not homemade.
https://mexicanstore.ca/products/herdez-cilantro-lime-salsa-cremosa-434g HERDEZ® Cilantro Lime Salsa Cremosa is a fusion of vibrant and fresh ingredients, meticulously blended to deliver an explosion of
flavours. The tangy tomatillos lend a delightful tartness, while
the lime adds a refreshing citrusy punch. Combined with the subtle
heat of jalapeno and the aromatic garlic, this salsa cremosa
creates a harmony of taste that will leave you craving more.
I always have some Herdez red or green in stock but never noticed
this one. Sounds like something that I would like! TKS
On 2024-05-03 18:22:06 +0000, Dave Smith said:
Maybe I should get rid of that horrible tasting thyme and replace
it with something that makes foods taste better instead of worse.
Greek, Italian, Cajun and French food all like some thyme and many
things braised. Also nice in soups and makes a pleasing garnish as
well. It's also know to ward off evil. I wouldn't bank on that one
though. Maybe you use too much of it.
Yes, I could absolutely do without it but it can add a nice subtle
underlying note to a lot of dishes...and would personally use more
cilantro, basil and maybe mint than any of the other herbs you
mention. Dried oregano is better than fresh IMO .. with a preference
for Mexican oregano over Greek.
On 2024-05-03 3:44 p.m., bob wrote:
On 2024-05-03 18:22:06 +0000, Dave Smith said:
Maybe I should get rid of that horrible tasting thyme and replace
it with something that makes foods taste better instead of worse.
Greek, Italian, Cajun and French food all like some thyme and many
things braised. Also nice in soups and makes a pleasing garnish as
well. It's also know to ward off evil. I wouldn't bank on that
one though. Maybe you use too much of it.
I think it was Graham who said I had the wrong kind of thyme and
suggested another type that was better. After I used it the first
time I was disgusted with the results, so the next time something
called for thyme I cut way back, but not back enough. Then I went
back to using dried.
Yes, I could absolutely do without it but it can add a nice subtle underlying note to a lot of dishes...and would personally use more cilantro, basil and maybe mint than any of the other herbs you
mention. Dried oregano is better than fresh IMO .. with a
preference for Mexican oregano over Greek.
I would add dill weed to that list. We eat a lot of salmon and that
is always nicer with dill weed. When we stayed with friends in
Sweden a few years back we discovered how much they like their dill.
Our hostess would throw a fistful into the water with the potatoes.
On my todo list is to make gravlox, and that calls for a healthy
amount of fresh dill weed.
I'm going to plant the chive seeds in with the green onions.
On 2024-05-03 21:31:31 +0000, Dave Smith said:
On 2024-05-03 3:44 p.m., bob wrote:
On 2024-05-03 18:22:06 +0000, Dave Smith said:
Maybe I should get rid of that horrible tasting thyme and
replace it with something that makes foods taste better
instead of worse.
Greek, Italian, Cajun and French food all like some thyme and
many things braised. Also nice in soups and makes a pleasing
garnish as well. It's also know to ward off evil. I wouldn't
bank on that one though. Maybe you use too much of it.
I think it was Graham who said I had the wrong kind of thyme and
suggested another type that was better. After I used it the first
time I was disgusted with the results, so the next time something
called for thyme I cut way back, but not back enough. Then I went
back to using dried.
Yes, I could absolutely do without it but it can add a nice
subtle underlying note to a lot of dishes...and would personally
use more cilantro, basil and maybe mint than any of the other
herbs you mention. Dried oregano is better than fresh IMO ..
with a preference for Mexican oregano over Greek.
I would add dill weed to that list. We eat a lot of salmon and that
is always nicer with dill weed. When we stayed with friends in
Sweden a few years back we discovered how much they like their
dill. Our hostess would throw a fistful into the water with the
potatoes.
On my todo list is to make gravlox, and that calls for a healthy
amount of fresh dill weed.
Other than pickles what else is there for dill? I actually think
salmon is better without dill. I remember that dill and salmon was
the rage a numbers of decades ago.
bob wrote:
Greek, Italian, Cajun and French food all like some thyme and many
things braised. Also nice in soups and makes a pleasing garnish as
well. It's also know to ward off evil. I wouldn't bank on that one
though. Maybe you use too much of it.
Yes, I could absolutely do without it but it can add a nice subtle
underlying note to a lot of dishes...and would personally use more
cilantro, basil and maybe mint than any of the other herbs you
mention. Dried oregano is better than fresh IMO .. with a preference
for Mexican oregano over Greek.
I'm sure Dave's cookery just doesn't lead to thyme but mine does. I'm
doing: basil, oregano, parsley, rosemary and sage this year.
I tend to a fair amount of cajun cookery but also a lot of culinary
fusion, which drives some here batty but I only care if it tastes good.
I have no use for soap weed (cilantro) and rarely follow a recipe
exactly.
I have no use for soap weed
I have no use for soap weed (cilantro) and rarely follow a recipe
exactly.
cshenk wrote:
I have no use for soap weed (cilantro) and rarely follow a recipeI have to admit I don't like cilantro either. Too strongly tastes
exactly.
of soap to me as well; very overpowering.
I don't like cilantro either.
I have dill (dried) but rarely use it.
A lot of people, mostly cussers, think it tastes like soap.
bob wrote:
Yes, I could absolutely do without it but it can add a nice subtle
underlying note to a lot of dishes...and would personally use more
cilantro, basil and maybe mint than any of the other herbs you
mention. Dried oregano is better than fresh IMO .. with a preference
for Mexican oregano over Greek.
I'm sure Dave's cookery just doesn't lead to thyme but mine does. I'm
doing: basil, oregano, parsley, rosemary and sage this year.
cshenk wrote:
I have no use for soap weed (cilantro) and rarely follow a recipeI have to admit I don't like cilantro either. Too strongly tastes
exactly.
of soap to me as well; very overpowering.
I have dill (dried) but rarely use it.
I kicked myself in the butt a few
times
On 2024-05-04, cshenk <cshenk@virginia-beach.net> wrote:
I have dill (dried) but rarely use it.
Fresh dill is much, much better.
I may be taking a chance but it is a pleasant day here and I took the opportunity to clean up the garden and plant some herbs. I started off
off small, just the essentials... parsley, cilantro, basil and dill. I
am counting on sage, thyme, mint and oregano having survived the winter. Maybe I should get rid of that horrible tasting thyme and replace it
with something that makes foods taste better instead of worse.
Dave Smith wrote:
I may be taking a chance but it is a pleasant day here and I took
the opportunity to clean up the garden and plant some herbs. I
started off off small, just the essentials... parsley, cilantro,
basil and dill. I am counting on sage, thyme, mint and oregano
having survived the winter. Maybe I should get rid of that horrible
tasting thyme and replace it with something that makes foods taste
better instead of worse.
I changed the tags of my mother’s herb jars. She hasn’t notice it yet, but the thyme is cumin.
cshenk wrote:
I have no use for soap weed (cilantro) and rarely follow a recipe
exactly.
I have to admit I don't like cilantro either. Too strongly tastes
of soap to me as well; very overpowering.
On 2024-05-04 4:04 p.m., ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:
cshenk wrote:
I have no use for soap weed (cilantro) and rarely follow a recipe exactly.
I have to admit I don't like cilantro either. Too strongly tastes
of soap to me as well; very overpowering.
I remember how much my wife hated it. I liked it the first time I
tried it. It was in a recipe that my wife liked and I would cut back
on the cilantro for her benefit. She came to really like it and now
she is the one who is suggesting I cook the dishes that are heavy on
the cilantro. I am reluctant to pay for a whole bunch of cilantro
that might be used in one dish and then go to waste and now she is
the one who buys it.
On 2024-05-04 3:11 p.m., cshenk wrote:
bob wrote:
Yes, I could absolutely do without it but it can add a nice subtle underlying note to a lot of dishes...and would personally use more cilantro, basil and maybe mint than any of the other herbs you
mention. Dried oregano is better than fresh IMO .. with a
preference for Mexican oregano over Greek.
I'm sure Dave's cookery just doesn't lead to thyme but mine does.
I'm doing: basil, oregano, parsley, rosemary and sage this year.
That is a curious presumption. I used that fresh thyme for recipes
that called for fresh thyme. It was awful. I kicked myself in the
butt a few times when I added it as per the recipe and was then
reminded how bad it is.
ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:
cshenk wrote:
I have no use for soap weed (cilantro) and rarely follow a recipeI have to admit I don't like cilantro either. Too strongly tastes
exactly.
of soap to me as well; very overpowering.
Yes, I gather it's genetic. Like if you can taste litmus paper.
On Sun, 05 May 2024 20:00:56 +0000, "cshenk"
<cshenk@virginia-beach.net> wrote:
ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:
cshenk wrote:
I have no use for soap weed (cilantro) and rarely follow a recipeI have to admit I don't like cilantro either. Too strongly tastes
exactly.
of soap to me as well; very overpowering.
Yes, I gather it's genetic. Like if you can taste litmus paper.
Lol, wut? Leave them mushrooms alone!
Tastes exactly like what I
imagine Tide laundry detergent would.
ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:
cshenk wrote:
I have no use for soap weed (cilantro) and rarely follow a recipeI have to admit I don't like cilantro either. Too strongly tastes
exactly.
of soap to me as well; very overpowering.
Yes, I gather it's genetic. Like if you can taste litmus paper.
There's no 'getting used to it' possible as it's soap. For me, even a
little is pure soap that ruins the dish. Tastes exactly like what I
imagine Tide laundry detergent would.
Dave Smith wrote:
On 2024-05-04 4:04 p.m., ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:
cshenk wrote:
I have no use for soap weed (cilantro) and rarely follow a recipeI have to admit I don't like cilantro either. Too strongly tastes
exactly.
of soap to me as well; very overpowering.
I remember how much my wife hated it. I liked it the first time I
tried it. It was in a recipe that my wife liked and I would cut back
on the cilantro for her benefit. She came to really like it and now
she is the one who is suggesting I cook the dishes that are heavy on
the cilantro. I am reluctant to pay for a whole bunch of cilantro
that might be used in one dish and then go to waste and now she is
the one who buys it.
That's not genetic 'tastes like soap'. You never can get used to that.
FWIW... I think it tastes like copper.
Little kids like beer and dill pickles
Dave Smith wrote:
I used that fresh thyme for recipes
that called for fresh thyme. It was awful. I kicked myself in the
butt a few times when I added it as per the recipe and was then
reminded how bad it is.
I use Thyme, dried. I've never used fresh.
On 2024-05-05 4:00 p.m., cshenk wrote:
ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:
cshenk wrote:
I have no use for soap weed (cilantro) and rarely follow a recipeI have to admit I don't like cilantro either. Too strongly tastes
exactly.
of soap to me as well; very overpowering.
Yes, I gather it's genetic. Like if you can taste litmus paper.
There's no 'getting used to it' possible as it's soap. For me, even a
little is pure soap that ruins the dish. Tastes exactly like what I
imagine Tide laundry detergent would.
If it is a matter of subjectivity, anecdotes are relevant. My wife hated >cilantro the first time she had it and maintained a dislike of it for a
few years. She developed a taste for it and now really likes it.
She developed a taste for it and now really likes it.
How about the rest of your family?
On Sun, 5 May 2024 17:42:51 -0400, Dave Smith
<adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
Tastes change. Little kids like beer and dill pickles but as they
get older they prefer sweetness to sour and bitter. Later on they
switch back.
The bullshit in this group is getting worse, I tell ya!
Tastes change. Little kids like beer and dill pickles but as they get
older they prefer sweetness to sour and bitter. Later on they switch back.
On Sun, 5 May 2024 17:42:51 -0400, Dave Smith
<adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
Tastes change. Little kids like beer and dill pickles but as they get
older they prefer sweetness to sour and bitter. Later on they switch back.
The bullshit in this group is getting worse, I tell ya!
On Sun, 05 May 2024 20:00:56 +0000
"cshenk" <cshenk@virginia-beach.net> wrote:
Tastes exactly like what I
imagine Tide laundry detergent would.
Coincidentally most of the free world of eaters doesn't have that
particular taste bud malfunction.
How sad for you.
:-(
Jordan Almond wrote:
On Sun, 05 May 2024 20:00:56 +0000
"cshenk" <cshenk@virginia-beach.net> wrote:
Tastes exactly like what I
imagine Tide laundry detergent would.
Coincidentally most of the free world of eaters doesn't have that
particular taste bud malfunction.
How sad for you.
:-(Can you cite your source that states "most of the free world
of eaters doesn't have that particular taste bud malfunction."
On 2024-05-03 22:30:23 +0000, Jordan Almond said:
If I only grew one herb it would be basil. Dried basil is>
useless...green sawdust with no flavor. Cilantro is so readily>
available and very inexpensive that it's hardly worth growing it IMO.>
So pull out the thyme and plants some tomatoes to go with the basil.
May I recommend:
https://aerogarden.com/gardens/harvest-family/harvest-xl.html
or...
https://aerogarden.com/gardens/farm-family/farm-24-basic.html
And:
https://aerogarden.com/learning/types-of-basil.html
Thai
Anise, licorice & slightly spicy
Marseille
Sweet and slightly of licorice, highly aromatic
Lemon
Lemony, pure, clean, and crisp
We have grown Thai and Lemon but not at all familiar with Marseille.
Jordan Almond wrote:
On Sun, 05 May 2024 20:00:56 +0000
"cshenk" <cshenk@virginia-beach.net> wrote:
Tastes exactly like what I
imagine Tide laundry detergent would.
Coincidentally most of the free world of eaters doesn't have that
particular taste bud malfunction.
How sad for you.
:-(Can you cite your source that states "most of the free world
of eaters doesn't have that particular taste bud malfunction."
On 2024-05-05, ItsJoanNotJoAnn <ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net> wrote:
Jordan Almond wrote:
On Sun, 05 May 2024 20:00:56 +0000Can you cite your source that states "most of the free world
"cshenk" <cshenk@virginia-beach.net> wrote:
Tastes exactly like what I
imagine Tide laundry detergent would.
Coincidentally most of the free world of eaters doesn't have that
particular taste bud malfunction.
How sad for you.
:-(
of eaters doesn't have that particular taste bud malfunction."
I can't cite his source, but a quick Google found this:
https://flavourjournal.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/2044-7248-1-8
17% of caucasians in that study reported disliking cilantro.
I thought cilantro tasted weird and a little soapy when I first tried
it, and wasn't particularly fond of it. Just as with introducing new
foods to a child, after 10 or 12 tries I became familiar with it and
grew to love it.
On 06 May 2024 09:39:26 GMT, Cindy Hamilton <hamilton@invalid.com>
wrote:
On 2024-05-05, ItsJoanNotJoAnn <ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net> wrote:
Jordan Almond wrote:
On Sun, 05 May 2024 20:00:56 +0000Can you cite your source that states "most of the free world
"cshenk" <cshenk@virginia-beach.net> wrote:
Tastes exactly like what I
imagine Tide laundry detergent would.
Coincidentally most of the free world of eaters doesn't have that
particular taste bud malfunction.
How sad for you.
:-(
of eaters doesn't have that particular taste bud malfunction."
I can't cite his source, but a quick Google found this:
https://flavourjournal.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/2044-7248-1-8
17% of caucasians in that study reported disliking cilantro.
I thought cilantro tasted weird and a little soapy when I first tried
it, and wasn't particularly fond of it. Just as with introducing new
foods to a child, after 10 or 12 tries I became familiar with it and
grew to love it.
Same here. I understand the soap association, but in the right dishes
I learnt to like it. So I don't know if I'm in the 17% or the 83%.
On 2024-05-06, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On 06 May 2024 09:39:26 GMT, Cindy Hamilton <hamilton@invalid.com>
wrote:
I can't cite his source, but a quick Google found this:
https://flavourjournal.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/2044-7248-1-8
17% of caucasians in that study reported disliking cilantro.
I thought cilantro tasted weird and a little soapy when I first tried
it, and wasn't particularly fond of it. Just as with introducing new >>>foods to a child, after 10 or 12 tries I became familiar with it and
grew to love it.
Same here. I understand the soap association, but in the right dishes
I learnt to like it. So I don't know if I'm in the 17% or the 83%.
You're in the 83%. For the 17%, the taste of soap is so strong they
just can't get past it.
First time I tried a new recipe about three years ago it called for tablespoon of fresh thyme. All I have is the dried stuff but I didn't
have my head screwed on right that day and dumped a full
tablespoon of the dried herb in the pot. As dried herbs are much more potent than their fresh counterpart the dish was pretty much
ruined.
I have to admit I don't like cilantro either. Too strongly tastes
of soap to me as well; very overpowering.
"The percentage of people who think cilantro tastes like soap varies depending on the study, but it generally falls somewhere between 4%
and 21%."
bob wrote:
On 2024-05-03 22:30:23 +0000, Jordan Almond said:
If I only grew one herb it would be basil. Dried basil is>
useless...green sawdust with no flavor. Cilantro is so readily>
available and very inexpensive that it's hardly worth growing it
IMO.> So pull out the thyme and plants some tomatoes to go with
the basil.
May I recommend:
https://aerogarden.com/gardens/harvest-family/harvest-xl.html
or...
https://aerogarden.com/gardens/farm-family/farm-24-basic.html
And:
https://aerogarden.com/learning/types-of-basil.html
Thai
Anise, licorice & slightly spicy
Marseille
Sweet and slightly of licorice, highly aromatic
Lemon
Lemony, pure, clean, and crisp
We have grown Thai and Lemon but not at all familiar with
Marseille.
I have an AeroGarden. I won it as a door prize. That was a few
Christmases ago. I'll have to set it up one of these days. I don't
have much use for herbs though.
On 2024-05-05, ItsJoanNotJoAnn <ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net> wrote:
Jordan Almond wrote:
On Sun, 05 May 2024 20:00:56 +0000
"cshenk" <cshenk@virginia-beach.net> wrote:
Tastes exactly like what I
imagine Tide laundry detergent would.
Coincidentally most of the free world of eaters doesn't have that
particular taste bud malfunction.
How sad for you.
:-(Can you cite your source that states "most of the free world
of eaters doesn't have that particular taste bud malfunction."
I can't cite his source, but a quick Google found this:
https://flavourjournal.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/2044-7248-1-8
17% of caucasians in that study reported disliking cilantro.
On 2024-05-05 4:05 p.m., cshenk wrote:
Dave Smith wrote:
On 2024-05-04 4:04 p.m., ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:
cshenk wrote:
I have no use for soap weed (cilantro) and rarely follow a recipeI have to admit I don't like cilantro either. Too strongly tastes
exactly.
of soap to me as well; very overpowering.
I remember how much my wife hated it. I liked it the first time I
tried it. It was in a recipe that my wife liked and I would cut back
on the cilantro for her benefit. She came to really like it and now
she is the one who is suggesting I cook the dishes that are heavy on
the cilantro. I am reluctant to pay for a whole bunch of cilantro
that might be used in one dish and then go to waste and now she is
the one who buys it.
That's not genetic 'tastes like soap'. You never can get used to that.
Why can it not be genetic? There are some tastes that are genetic. My
example was anecdotal. My wife certainly got used to the taste and went
from hating cilantro to loving it.
Tastes change. Little kids like beer and dill pickles but as they get
older they prefer sweetness to sour and bitter. Later on they switch back.
On 2024-05-05, ItsJoanNotJoAnn <ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net> wrote:
Jordan Almond wrote:
On Sun, 05 May 2024 20:00:56 +0000Can you cite your source that states "most of the free world
"cshenk" <cshenk@virginia-beach.net> wrote:
Tastes exactly like what I
imagine Tide laundry detergent would.
Coincidentally most of the free world of eaters doesn't have that
particular taste bud malfunction.
How sad for you.
:-(
of eaters doesn't have that particular taste bud malfunction."
I can't cite his source, but a quick Google found this:
https://flavourjournal.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/2044-7248-1-8
17% of caucasians in that study reported disliking cilantro.
On 2024-05-05 4:05 p.m., cshenk wrote:
Dave Smith wrote:
On 2024-05-04 4:04 p.m., ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:
cshenk wrote:
I have no use for soap weed (cilantro) and rarely follow a
recipe exactly.
I have to admit I don't like cilantro either. Too strongly
tastes of soap to me as well; very overpowering.
I remember how much my wife hated it. I liked it the first time I
tried it. It was in a recipe that my wife liked and I would cut
back on the cilantro for her benefit. She came to really like it
and now she is the one who is suggesting I cook the dishes that
are heavy on the cilantro. I am reluctant to pay for a whole
bunch of cilantro that might be used in one dish and then go to
waste and now she is the one who buys it.
That's not genetic 'tastes like soap'. You never can get used to
that.
Why can it not be genetic? There are some tastes that are genetic. My
example was anecdotal. My wife certainly got used to the taste and
went from hating cilantro to loving it.
Tastes change. Little kids like beer and dill pickles but as they get
older they prefer sweetness to sour and bitter. Later on they switch
back.
On Sun, 05 May 2024 20:00:56 +0000
"cshenk" <cshenk@virginia-beach.net> wrote:
Tastes exactly like what I
imagine Tide laundry detergent would.
Coincidentally most of the free world of eaters doesn't have that
particular taste bud malfunction.
How sad for you.
:-(
ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote :
I have to admit I don't like cilantro either. Too strongly tastes
of soap to me as well; very overpowering.
How is it you know what soap tastes like? Surely by now, you've learned
how to avoid getting soap in your mouth (and not done that in a long
time).
I always wonder about people who say "That tastes like shit."
On 2024-05-06, heyjoe <address@is.invalid> wrote:
ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote :
I have to admit I don't like cilantro either. Too strongly tastes
of soap to me as well; very overpowering.
How is it you know what soap tastes like? Surely by now, you've learned
how to avoid getting soap in your mouth (and not done that in a long
time).
I always wonder about people who say "That tastes like shit."
Things tend to taste like what they smell like.
On 2024-05-06, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On 06 May 2024 09:39:26 GMT, Cindy Hamilton <hamilton@invalid.com>
wrote:
On 2024-05-05, ItsJoanNotJoAnn <ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net> wrote:
Jordan Almond wrote:
On Sun, 05 May 2024 20:00:56 +0000
"cshenk" <cshenk@virginia-beach.net> wrote:
Tastes exactly like what I
imagine Tide laundry detergent would.
Coincidentally most of the free world of eaters doesn't have that
particular taste bud malfunction.
How sad for you.
:-(
Can you cite your source that states "most of the free world
of eaters doesn't have that particular taste bud malfunction."
I can't cite his source, but a quick Google found this:
17% of caucasians in that study reported disliking cilantro.
I thought cilantro tasted weird and a little soapy when I first
tried it, and wasn't particularly fond of it. Just as with
introducing new foods to a child, after 10 or 12 tries I became
familiar with it and grew to love it.
Same here. I understand the soap association, but in the right
dishes I learnt to like it. So I don't know if I'm in the 17% or
the 83%.
You're in the 83%. For the 17%, the taste of soap is so strong they
just can't get past it.
ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote :
I have to admit I don't like cilantro either. Too strongly tastes
of soap to me as well; very overpowering.
How is it you know what soap tastes like? Surely by now, you've learned
how to avoid getting soap in your mouth (and not done that in a long
time).
I always wonder about people who say "That tastes like shit."
On 2024-05-06 09:39:26 +0000, Cindy Hamilton said:
On 2024-05-05, ItsJoanNotJoAnn <ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net> wrote:
Jordan Almond wrote:
On Sun, 05 May 2024 20:00:56 +0000
"cshenk" <cshenk@virginia-beach.net> wrote:
Tastes exactly like what I
imagine Tide laundry detergent would.
Coincidentally most of the free world of eaters doesn't have
that particular taste bud malfunction.
How sad for you.
:-(
Can you cite your source that states "most of the free world
of eaters doesn't have that particular taste bud malfunction."
I can't cite his source, but a quick Google found this:
17% of caucasians in that study reported disliking cilantro.
Interesting. Tex Mex is big on cilantro New Mexico Mex doesn't use
it for the most part. Exceptions of course.
ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote :
I have to admit I don't like cilantro either. Too strongly tastes
of soap to me as well; very overpowering.
How is it you know what soap tastes like? Surely by now, you've
learned how to avoid getting soap in your mouth (and not done that in
a long time).
I always wonder about people who say "That tastes like shit."
On 5/5/2024 6:04 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:
First time I tried a new recipe about three years ago it called for tablespoon of fresh thyme. All I have is the dried stuff but I
didn't have my head screwed on right that day and dumped a full
tablespoon of the dried herb in the pot. As dried herbs are much
more potent than their fresh counterpart the dish was pretty much
ruined.
I did the same thing with dill and potato salad years ago. Recipe
called for 3 TBS fresh dill and without thinking, I put 3 TBS dried
dill in. arrggh! ;-o
Dave Smith wrote:
On 2024-05-05 4:05 p.m., cshenk wrote:
Dave Smith wrote:
On 2024-05-04 4:04 p.m., ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:
cshenk wrote:
I have no use for soap weed (cilantro) and rarely follow a
recipe exactly.
I have to admit I don't like cilantro either. Too strongly
tastes of soap to me as well; very overpowering.
I remember how much my wife hated it. I liked it the first time
I tried it. It was in a recipe that my wife liked and I would
cut back on the cilantro for her benefit. She came to really
like it and now she is the one who is suggesting I cook the
dishes that are heavy on the cilantro. I am reluctant to pay
for a whole bunch of cilantro that might be used in one dish
and then go to waste and now she is the one who buys it.
That's not genetic 'tastes like soap'. You never can get used to
that.
Why can it not be genetic? There are some tastes that are genetic.
My example was anecdotal. My wife certainly got used to the taste
and went from hating cilantro to loving it.
Tastes change. Little kids like beer and dill pickles but as they
get older they prefer sweetness to sour and bitter. Later on they
switch back.
You don't get 'over it' if it's genetic. It just tastes like soap
forever.
Jordan Almond wrote:
On Sun, 05 May 2024 20:00:56 +0000
"cshenk" <cshenk@virginia-beach.net> wrote:
Tastes exactly like what I
imagine Tide laundry detergent would.
Coincidentally most of the free world of eaters doesn't have that particular taste bud malfunction.
How sad for you.
:-(
Yes but I cook around it fine.
On 2024-05-06, heyjoe <address@is.invalid> wrote:
ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote :
I have to admit I don't like cilantro either. Too strongly tastes
of soap to me as well; very overpowering.
How is it you know what soap tastes like? Surely by now, you've
learned how to avoid getting soap in your mouth (and not done that
in a long time).
I always wonder about people who say "That tastes like shit."
Things tend to taste like what they smell like.
Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2024-05-06, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
Same here. I understand the soap association, but in the right
dishes I learnt to like it. So I don't know if I'm in the 17% or
the 83%.
You're in the 83%. For the 17%, the taste of soap is so strong they
just can't get past it.
Yup, and there 2 main genes that can cause it. 1 you 'could get past'
which affects smell, the other is not something you can get past as
it's literally a taste gene. It's possible to have both genes.
bob wrote:
On 2024-05-06 09:39:26 +0000, Cindy Hamilton said:https://flavourjournal.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/2044-7248-1-8
On 2024-05-05, ItsJoanNotJoAnn <ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net> wrote:
Jordan Almond wrote:
On Sun, 05 May 2024 20:00:56 +0000Can you cite your source that states "most of the free world
"cshenk" <cshenk@virginia-beach.net> wrote:
Tastes exactly like what I
imagine Tide laundry detergent would.
Coincidentally most of the free world of eaters doesn't have
that particular taste bud malfunction.
How sad for you.
:-(
of eaters doesn't have that particular taste bud malfunction."
I can't cite his source, but a quick Google found this:
17% of caucasians in that study reported disliking cilantro.
Interesting. Tex Mex is big on cilantro New Mexico Mex doesn't use
it for the most part. Exceptions of course.
I don't see a cite for it now but Native Americans run supposedly, a
very high incidence of the 'tastes like soap' trait.
Don't be silly. Most of us predate dishwashers. Ever forgotten to
rinse a spoon or fork?
Don't be silly. Most of us predate dishwashers. Ever forgotten to
rinse a spoon or fork?
On 2024-05-05, ItsJoanNotJoAnn <ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net> wrote:
Jordan Almond wrote:
On Sun, 05 May 2024 20:00:56 +0000Can you cite your source that states "most of the free world
"cshenk" <cshenk@virginia-beach.net> wrote:
Tastes exactly like what I
imagine Tide laundry detergent would.
Coincidentally most of the free world of eaters doesn't have that
particular taste bud malfunction.
How sad for you.
:-(
of eaters doesn't have that particular taste bud malfunction."
I can't cite his source, but a quick Google found this:
https://flavourjournal.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/2044-7248-1-8
17% of caucasians in that study reported disliking cilantro.
I thought cilantro tasted weird and a little soapy when I first tried
it, and wasn't particularly fond of it. Just as with introducing new
foods to a child, after 10 or 12 tries I became familiar with it and
grew to love it.
I gave up on chaat masala. I just couldn't get over the eggy sulfur
smell.
cshenk wrote :
Don't be silly. Most of us predate dishwashers. Ever forgotten to
rinse a spoon or fork?
No way! Wash in the right hand sink, rinse under running water in the
left hand sink, rotate further left & place in dish drainer. Can't get
to the dish drainer with out passing the rinse sink.
On 2024-05-06, heyjoe <address@is.invalid> wrote:
cshenk wrote :
Don't be silly. Most of us predate dishwashers. Ever forgotten to
rinse a spoon or fork?
No way! Wash in the right hand sink, rinse under running water in
the left hand sink, rotate further left & place in dish drainer.
Can't get to the dish drainer with out passing the rinse sink.
Posh. We didn't have a double sink.
On 2024-05-06, heyjoe <address@is.invalid> wrote:
cshenk wrote :
Don't be silly. Most of us predate dishwashers. Ever forgotten to
rinse a spoon or fork?
No way! Wash in the right hand sink, rinse under running water in the
left hand sink, rotate further left & place in dish drainer. Can't get
to the dish drainer with out passing the rinse sink.
Posh. We didn't have a double sink.
On 5/6/2024 5:47 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2024-05-06, heyjoe <address@is.invalid> wrote:My last house had one. Hated it. We had a dishwasher so no need for
cshenk wrote :
Don't be silly. Most of us predate dishwashers. Ever forgotten to
rinse a spoon or fork?
No way! Wash in the right hand sink, rinse under running water in the
left hand sink, rotate further left & place in dish drainer. Can't get
to the dish drainer with out passing the rinse sink.
Posh. We didn't have a double sink.
the double where many things did not fit. .
Dave Smith wrote:
On 2024-05-05 4:05 p.m., cshenk wrote:
Dave Smith wrote:
On 2024-05-04 4:04 p.m., ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:
cshenk wrote:
I have no use for soap weed (cilantro) and rarely follow aI have to admit I don't like cilantro either. Too strongly
recipe exactly.
tastes of soap to me as well; very overpowering.
I remember how much my wife hated it. I liked it the first time I
tried it. It was in a recipe that my wife liked and I would cut
back on the cilantro for her benefit. She came to really like it
and now she is the one who is suggesting I cook the dishes that
are heavy on the cilantro. I am reluctant to pay for a whole
bunch of cilantro that might be used in one dish and then go to
waste and now she is the one who buys it.
That's not genetic 'tastes like soap'. You never can get used to
that.
Why can it not be genetic? There are some tastes that are genetic. My
example was anecdotal. My wife certainly got used to the taste and
went from hating cilantro to loving it.
Tastes change. Little kids like beer and dill pickles but as they get
older they prefer sweetness to sour and bitter. Later on they switch
back.
You don't get 'over it' if it's genetic. It just tastes like soap
forever.
On 2024-05-07, Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:
On 5/6/2024 5:47 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2024-05-06, heyjoe <address@is.invalid> wrote:My last house had one. Hated it. We had a dishwasher so no need for
cshenk wrote :
Don't be silly. Most of us predate dishwashers. Ever forgotten to
rinse a spoon or fork?
No way! Wash in the right hand sink, rinse under running water in the >>>> left hand sink, rotate further left & place in dish drainer. Can't get >>>> to the dish drainer with out passing the rinse sink.
Posh. We didn't have a double sink.
the double where many things did not fit. .
Oddly, my mother remodeled her kitching in the 1980s and added
a double sink, right next to the dishwasher. I don't think she
has anything too large to fit in one of the basins. It would drive
me crazy.
The sink we got when we remodeled will fit a 12x18 sheet pan. It's
a little too small for the 14" nonstick frying pan's handle (even diagonally), but that pan never requires soaking.
On 2024-05-07 4:52 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2024-05-07, Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:
On 5/6/2024 5:47 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2024-05-06, heyjoe <address@is.invalid> wrote:My last house had one. Hated it. We had a dishwasher so no need for
cshenk wrote :
Don't be silly. Most of us predate dishwashers. Ever forgotten to >>>>>> rinse a spoon or fork?
No way! Wash in the right hand sink, rinse under running water in the >>>>> left hand sink, rotate further left & place in dish drainer. Can't get >>>>> to the dish drainer with out passing the rinse sink.
Posh. We didn't have a double sink.
the double where many things did not fit. .
Oddly, my mother remodeled her kitching in the 1980s and added
a double sink, right next to the dishwasher. I don't think she
has anything too large to fit in one of the basins. It would drive
me crazy.
The sink we got when we remodeled will fit a 12x18 sheet pan. It's
a little too small for the 14" nonstick frying pan's handle (even
diagonally), but that pan never requires soaking.
I like a double sink. There are few things that won't fit in it. I can
cope with those that don't. The advantage of the double sink outweighs
that (not) small inconvenience.
On 2024-05-07 4:52 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2024-05-07, Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:
On 5/6/2024 5:47 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2024-05-06, heyjoe <address@is.invalid> wrote:My last house had one. Hated it. We had a dishwasher so no need for
cshenk wrote :
Don't be silly. Most of us predate dishwashers. Ever forgotten to >>>>>> rinse a spoon or fork?
No way! Wash in the right hand sink, rinse under running water in the >>>>> left hand sink, rotate further left & place in dish drainer. Can't get >>>>> to the dish drainer with out passing the rinse sink.
Posh. We didn't have a double sink.
the double where many things did not fit. .
Oddly, my mother remodeled her kitching in the 1980s and added
a double sink, right next to the dishwasher. I don't think she
has anything too large to fit in one of the basins. It would drive
me crazy.
The sink we got when we remodeled will fit a 12x18 sheet pan. It's
a little too small for the 14" nonstick frying pan's handle (even
diagonally), but that pan never requires soaking.
I like a double sink. There are few things that won't fit in it. I can
cope with those that don't. The advantage of the double sink outweighs
that (not) small inconvenience.
On 2024-05-07 12:34:38 +0000, Dave Smith said:
I like a double sink. There are few things that won't fit in it. I
can cope with those that don't. The advantage of the double sink
outweighs that (not) small inconvenience.
Your might as well like it since you are most like not going to change
it. There is really no need for one and you will rarely see on in a new residence.
On 2024-05-07, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
I like a double sink. There are few things that won't fit in it. I can
cope with those that don't. The advantage of the double sink outweighs
that (not) small inconvenience.
You do your dishes by hand. If I didn't have a dishwasher, I'd want
a double sink.
On 2024-05-07 9:36 a.m., bob wrote:
On 2024-05-07 12:34:38 +0000, Dave Smith said:
I like a double sink. There are few things that won't fit in it. I can
cope with those that don't. The advantage of the double sink outweighs
that (not) small inconvenience.
Your might as well like it since you are most like not going to change
it. There is really no need for one and you will rarely see on in a
new residence.
You're right. It is a pain in the butt to change sinks because there is
a good chance a new sink won't fit into an old hole. You often have to replace the countertop in order to install a new sink.
On 2024-05-07 15:43:49 +0000, Dave Smith said:
You're right. It is a pain in the butt to change sinks because there
is a good chance a new sink won't fit into an old hole. You often have
to replace the countertop in order to install a new sink.
True and if you are not going to update the whole kitchen why bother.
a new sink won't fit into an old hole
heyjoe wrote:
ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote :
I have to admit I don't like cilantro either. Too strongly tastes
of soap to me as well; very overpowering.
How is it you know what soap tastes like? Surely by now, you've
learned how to avoid getting soap in your mouth (and not done that in
a long time).
I always wonder about people who say "That tastes like shit."
Don't be silly. Most of us predate dishwashers. Ever forgotten to
rinse a spoon or fork?
On Tue, 7 May 2024 11:43:49 -0400
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
a new sink won't fit into an old hole
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On 06 May 2024 09:39:26 GMT, Cindy Hamilton <hamilton@invalid.com>
wrote:
On 2024-05-05, ItsJoanNotJoAnn <ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net> wrote:
Jordan Almond wrote:
On Sun, 05 May 2024 20:00:56 +0000Can you cite your source that states "most of the free world
"cshenk" <cshenk@virginia-beach.net> wrote:
Tastes exactly like what I
imagine Tide laundry detergent would.
Coincidentally most of the free world of eaters doesn't have that
particular taste bud malfunction.
How sad for you.
:-(
of eaters doesn't have that particular taste bud malfunction."
I can't cite his source, but a quick Google found this:
https://flavourjournal.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/2044-7248-1-8
17% of caucasians in that study reported disliking cilantro.
I thought cilantro tasted weird and a little soapy when I first tried
it, and wasn't particularly fond of it. Just as with introducing new
foods to a child, after 10 or 12 tries I became familiar with it and
grew to love it.
Same here. I understand the soap association, but in the right dishes
I learnt to like it.
On 2024-05-06, heyjoe <address@is.invalid> wrote:
cshenk wrote :
Don't be silly. Most of us predate dishwashers. Ever forgotten to
rinse a spoon or fork?
No way! Wash in the right hand sink, rinse under running water in the
left hand sink, rotate further left & place in dish drainer. Can't get
to the dish drainer with out passing the rinse sink.
Posh. We didn't have a double sink.
Marge Or Ram wrote:
On Tue, 7 May 2024 11:43:49 -0400
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
a new sink won't fit into an old hole
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Like throwing a hotdog down a hallway.
On 2024-05-07 11:50 a.m., bob wrote:
On 2024-05-07 15:43:49 +0000, Dave Smith said:
You're right. It is a pain in the butt to change sinks because there
is a good chance a new sink won't fit into an old hole. You often have
to replace the countertop in order to install a new sink.
True and if you are not going to update the whole kitchen why bother.
Sometimes you might need to if you made the mistake of buying one large
sink instead of a double ;-)
In article
<FmidnTBUsNaCsqT7nZ2dnZfqn_udnZ2d@giganews.com>,
cshenk@virginia-beach.net says...
heyjoe wrote:
ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote :
I have to admit I don't like cilantro either. Too strongly
tastes of soap to me as well; very overpowering.
How is it you know what soap tastes like? Surely by now, you've
learned how to avoid getting soap in your mouth (and not done
that in a long time).
I always wonder about people who say "That tastes like shit."
Don't be silly. Most of us predate dishwashers. Ever forgotten to
rinse a spoon or fork?
I've never used a spoon or fork when taking a shit. Is
that something they do in Sasebo?
Janet UK
In article <66394fda$0$8484$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>, hamilton@invalid.com says...
On 2024-05-06, heyjoe <address@is.invalid> wrote:
cshenk wrote :
Don't be silly. Most of us predate dishwashers. Ever forgotten
to rinse a spoon or fork?
No way! Wash in the right hand sink, rinse under running water
in the left hand sink, rotate further left & place in dish
drainer. Can't get to the dish drainer with out passing the rinse
sink.
Posh. We didn't have a double sink.
Posh people don't wash their arse in the kitchen sink,
so our cutlery never tastes like shit.
Janet UK
In article <v1ablf$2gpsd$1@dont-email.me>,
Bruce@invalid.invalid says...
On 06 May 2024 09:39:26 GMT, Cindy Hamilton <hamilton@invalid.com>
wrote:
I can't cite his source, but a quick Google found this:
https://flavourjournal.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/2044-7248-1-8
17% of caucasians in that study reported disliking cilantro.
I thought cilantro tasted weird and a little soapy when I first tried
it, and wasn't particularly fond of it. Just as with introducing new
foods to a child, after 10 or 12 tries I became familiar with it and
grew to love it.
Same here. I understand the soap association, but in the right dishes
I learnt to like it.
Did your wife make you eat cilantro even though you
didn't want to? Like she does with fish?
You just can't handle the
conclusion that you're morally inferior :)
On Mon, 06 May 2024 18:54:57 +0000
"cshenk" <cshenk@virginia-beach.net> wrote:
Jordan Almond wrote:
On Sun, 05 May 2024 20:00:56 +0000
"cshenk" <cshenk@virginia-beach.net> wrote:
Tastes exactly like what I
imagine Tide laundry detergent would.
Coincidentally most of the free world of eaters doesn't have that particular taste bud malfunction.
How sad for you.
:-(
Yes but I cook around it fine.
So no cumino either?
Sounds like a long covid ailment.
In my experience, when the cilantro is cooked or pureed (or even
chopped very finely) the perception of its soapiness is often
diminished. Also, the more a "cilantrophobe" is exposed to cilantro
the less likely he or she is to perceive it as unpleasant. If you
love cilantro and regularly cook for someone who doesn't, try adding
it in small, well-chopped or cooked amounts to your food, and see if
the perception changes.
cshenk wrote :
Don't be silly. Most of us predate dishwashers. Ever forgotten to
rinse a spoon or fork?
No way! Wash in the right hand sink, rinse under running water in the
left hand sink, rotate further left & place in dish drainer. Can't get
to the dish drainer with out passing the rinse sink.
On 2024-05-06, heyjoe <address@is.invalid> wrote:
cshenk wrote :
Don't be silly. Most of us predate dishwashers. Ever forgotten to
rinse a spoon or fork?
No way! Wash in the right hand sink, rinse under running water in
the left hand sink, rotate further left & place in dish drainer.
Can't get to the dish drainer with out passing the rinse sink.
Posh. We didn't have a double sink.
cshenk wrote:
You don't get 'over it' if it's genetic. It just tastes like soap
forever.
some of us taste it but enjoy it anyways because there's
a lot more going on than "tastes like soap".
songbird
On 2024-05-05 4:05 p.m., cshenk wrote:
That's not genetic 'tastes like soap'. You never can get used to that.
Why can it not be genetic? There are some tastes that are genetic. My
example was anecdotal. My wife certainly got used to the taste and went from hating cilantro to loving it.
Tastes change. Little kids like beer and dill pickles but as they get
older they prefer sweetness to sour and bitter. Later on they switch back.
Jordan Almond wrote:
On Sun, 05 May 2024 20:00:56 +0000
"cshenk" <cshenk@virginia-beach.net> wrote:
Tastes exactly like what I
imagine Tide laundry detergent would.
Coincidentally most of the free world of eaters doesn't have that
particular taste bud malfunction.
How sad for you.
:-(Can you cite your source that states "most of the free world of eaters doesn't have that particular taste bud malfunction."
cshenk wrote :
Don't be silly. Most of us predate dishwashers. Ever forgotten to
rinse a spoon or fork?
No way! Wash in the right hand sink, rinse under running water in the
left hand sink, rotate further left & place in dish drainer. Can't get
to the dish drainer with out passing the rinse sink.
On 5/5/2024 6:08 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:
Jordan Almond wrote:
On Sun, 05 May 2024 20:00:56 +0000Can you cite your source that states "most of the free world of eaters
"cshenk" <cshenk@virginia-beach.net> wrote:
Tastes exactly like what I
imagine Tide laundry detergent would.
Coincidentally most of the free world of eaters doesn't have that
particular taste bud malfunction.
How sad for you.
:-(
doesn't have that particular taste bud malfunction."
Sounds like it came from 'The Big Troll Encyclopedia of Knowledge'. ;)
Jill
On 5/7/2024 4:58 AM, songbird wrote:
cshenk wrote:
You don't get 'over it' if it's genetic. It just tastes like soap
forever.
some of us taste it but enjoy it anyways because there's
a lot more going on than "tastes like soap".
songbird
If it tastes like soap to the person eating it, there is not going to
be "a lot more going on" other than gee, this tastes like soap.
Jill
On Tue, 7 May 2024 18:04:45 -0400
jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
On 5/7/2024 4:58 AM, songbird wrote:
cshenk wrote:
You don't get 'over it' if it's genetic. It just tastes like soap
forever.
some of us taste it but enjoy it anyways because there's
a lot more going on than "tastes like soap".
songbird
If it tastes like soap to the person eating it, there is not going to
be "a lot more going on" other than gee, this tastes like soap.
Jill
Never (save for Bruce) has someone posted so much here and said so
little.
On Tue, 7 May 2024 18:29:34 -0400
jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
I had a large single kitchen sink when
I lived in TN
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On Tue, 7 May 2024 16:56:28 -0600, blackest purl <found@road.did>
wrote:
On Tue, 7 May 2024 18:29:34 -0400
jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
I had a large single kitchen sink when
I lived in TN
https://media1.tenor.com/m/DqVSB4Tikr4AAAAd/bored-and.gif
Oh come on. Before Jill posted this I never knew that she had a large
single kitchen sink in TN!
Your wife got used to it or perhaps you stopped
using too much of it.
I had a large single kitchen sink when
I lived in TN
On 2024-05-07 12:34:38 +0000, Dave Smith said:...
I like a double sink. There are few things that won't fit in it. I can
cope with those that don't. The advantage of the double sink outweighs
that (not) small inconvenience.
Your might as well like it since you are most like not going to change
it. There is really no need for one and you will rarely see on in a
new residence.
On 5/7/2024 4:58 AM, songbird wrote:
cshenk wrote:
You don't get 'over it' if it's genetic. It just tastes like soap
forever.
some of us taste it but enjoy it anyways because there's
a lot more going on than "tastes like soap".
If it tastes like soap to the person eating it, there is not going to be
"a lot more going on" other than gee, this tastes like soap.
bob wrote:
On 2024-05-07 12:34:38 +0000, Dave Smith said:...
I like a double sink. There are few things that won't fit in it. I can
cope with those that don't. The advantage of the double sink outweighs
that (not) small inconvenience.
Your might as well like it since you are most like not going to change
it. There is really no need for one and you will rarely see on in a
new residence.
we have a double sink and it's very handy for how i can large
batches of tomatoes and how i like to do dishes.
the only downside to it is that it is white porcelain/enamel
over cast iron so it shows our rust/calcium water stains easily
and gets easily marked by some metal pans. also it can be
chipped (gladly nothing too bad yet). once in a while we clean
it up with the rust/calcium removers and scrub off the metal
marks. it's probably around 30 years old so we've certainly
gotten our money's worth out of it.
songbird
jmcquown wrote:
On 5/7/2024 4:58 AM, songbird wrote:
cshenk wrote:
You don't get 'over it' if it's genetic. It just tastes like soap
forever.
some of us taste it but enjoy it anyways because there's
a lot more going on than "tastes like soap".
If it tastes like soap to the person eating it, there is not going to be
"a lot more going on" other than gee, this tastes like soap.
it tastes like soap to me, but it also has a lot
of other things going on that i enjoy.
songbird
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