That's pretty much it, I have a rolling mill, I have a bunch of solid
wire of various gauges. I have in the past converted copper tubing /
pipe into strips which then got used for decorations or hinges /
fittings. "It worked".
But I am now wanting to recreate a pattern on the metal accents on
a box I got at a thrift store ("the hard ware is worth more than
that!").
I know how to make punches so I could make a "die"on a flat piece
of steel. But the question then comes: how do I make the steel
"round" and attached to one of the rollers?
Or just use it as a plate pushed through the rolling mill? Hmm,
hadn't thought of that - might work,but depends on how much /long I
want to make.
That's pretty much it, I have a rolling mill...
But I am now wanting to recreate a pattern on the metal accents on
a box I got at a thrift store ("the hard ware is worth more than
that!").
I know how to make punches so I could make a "die"on a flat piece
of steel. But the question then comes: how do I make the steel
"round" and attached to one of the rollers?
On 28/01/2022 01:24, pyotr filipivich wrote:
That's pretty much it, I have a rolling mill, I have a bunch of solid
wire of various gauges. I have in the past converted copper tubing /
pipe into strips which then got used for decorations or hinges /
fittings. "It worked".
But I am now wanting to recreate a pattern on the metal accents on
a box I got at a thrift store ("the hard ware is worth more than
that!").
I know how to make punches so I could make a "die"on a flat piece
of steel. But the question then comes: how do I make the steel
"round" and attached to one of the rollers?
Or just use it as a plate pushed through the rolling mill? Hmm,
hadn't thought of that - might work,but depends on how much /long I
want to make.
I've seen flat plates with various patterns on them sold by jewellers >suppliers, you just put the metal you want to emboss through the mill as
a sandwich with the plates or plates.
"Jim Wilkins" <muratlanne@gmail.com> on Fri, 28 Jan 2022 07:11:11
-0500 typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:
"pyotr filipivich" wrote in message >>news:e6f6vglnju5mcqo07ta7l11cli0p0f4mvl@4ax.com...
That's pretty much it, I have a rolling mill, I have a bunch of solid
wire of various gauges. I have in the past converted copper tubing /
pipe into strips which then got used for decorations or hinges /
fittings. "It worked".
But I am now wanting to recreate a pattern on the metal accents on
a box I got at a thrift store ("the hard ware is worth more than
that!").
I know how to make punches so I could make a "die"on a flat piece
of steel. But the question then comes: how do I make the steel
"round" and attached to one of the rollers?
Or just use it as a plate pushed through the rolling mill? Hmm,
hadn't thought of that - might work,but depends on how much /long I
want to make.
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Maybe they know: >>https://www.pannier.com/stamping/roll-rotary-marking/roll-marking-dies/
Oooh, neato. Will have to bookmark that one.
What do you think of this type? >>https://www.amazon.com/Rolling-Mill-Jewelers-Grade-Rollers/dp/B000RB5CXC
It looks better than the one I have. "Maybe."
"pyotr filipivich" wrote in message >news:0inbvgh3qgv3varangovng1ka4ufps7ml5@4ax.com...
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The solid-ink color printer I helped develop in the 1980's could make offset >printing plates by depositing the ink on a thin sheet of aluminum. In >experiments it could create 3D shapes such as Braille dots out of the ink, >which inspired one of the engineers to create a 3D printer. Maybe for short >production runs you could 3D print a lost-wax (or lost plastic) pattern to >cast in bronze or Kirksite.
I'm too close to the monthly data cap to look for references for you.
"Jim Wilkins" <muratlanne@gmail.com> on Fri, 28 Jan 2022 07:11:11
-0500 typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:
What do you think of this type? >>https://www.amazon.com/Rolling-Mill-Jewelers-Grade-Rollers/dp/B000RB5CXC
On Sat, 29 Jan 2022 17:03:53 -0800, pyotr filipivich
<phamp@mindspring.com> wrote:
"Jim Wilkins" <muratlanne@gmail.com> on Fri, 28 Jan 2022 07:11:11
-0500 typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:
"pyotr filipivich" wrote in message >>>news:e6f6vglnju5mcqo07ta7l11cli0p0f4mvl@4ax.com...
That's pretty much it, I have a rolling mill, I have a bunch of solid >>>wire of various gauges. I have in the past converted copper tubing / >>>pipe into strips which then got used for decorations or hinges / >>>fittings. "It worked".
But I am now wanting to recreate a pattern on the metal accents on
a box I got at a thrift store ("the hard ware is worth more than
that!").
I know how to make punches so I could make a "die"on a flat piece
of steel. But the question then comes: how do I make the steel
"round" and attached to one of the rollers?
Or just use it as a plate pushed through the rolling mill? Hmm,
hadn't thought of that - might work,but depends on how much /long I
want to make.
---------------------
Maybe they know: >>>https://www.pannier.com/stamping/roll-rotary-marking/roll-marking-dies/
Oooh, neato. Will have to bookmark that one.
What do you think of this type? >>>https://www.amazon.com/Rolling-Mill-Jewelers-Grade-Rollers/dp/B000RB5CXC
It looks better than the one I have. "Maybe."
I'd read the one-star reviews - 28% failure rate.
"pyotr filipivich" wrote in message news:0inbvgh3qgv3varangovng1ka4ufps7ml5@4ax.com...
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The solid-ink color printer I helped develop in the 1980's could make
offset printing plates by depositing the ink on a thin sheet of
aluminum. In experiments it could create 3D shapes such as Braille
dots out of the ink, which inspired one of the engineers to create a
3D printer. Maybe for short production runs you could 3D print a
lost-wax (or lost plastic) pattern to cast in bronze or Kirksite.
I'm too close to the monthly data cap to look for references for you.
"Joe Gwinn" wrote in message news:itqdvgd6u1dk35vogsr34gsjg4al4pnjbh@4ax.com...
On Sat, 29 Jan 2022 17:03:53 -0800, pyotr filipivich
<phamp@mindspring.com> wrote:
"Jim Wilkins" <muratlanne@gmail.com> on Fri, 28 Jan 2022 07:11:11
-0500 typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:
What do you think of this type?
https://www.amazon.com/Rolling-Mill-Jewelers-Grade-Rollers/dp/B000RB5CXC >>>
I'd read the one-star reviews - 28% failure rate.
Joe Gwinn
-------------------------
I use Amazon for reference when their URL is short, as an example of
the type of item.
"pyotr filipivich" wrote in message news:0inbvgh3qgv3varangovng1ka4ufps7ml5@4ax.com...
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The solid-ink color printer I helped develop in the 1980's could make
offset printing plates by depositing the ink on a thin sheet of aluminum.
In experiments it could create 3D shapes such as Braille dots out of the
ink, which inspired one of the engineers to create a 3D printer. Maybe for short production runs you could 3D print a lost-wax (or lost plastic)
pattern to cast in bronze or Kirksite.
I'm too close to the monthly data cap to look for references for you.
"pyotr filipivich" wrote in message >news:jknevg9haoi996u1rs3jebv1lkf036uvbn@4ax.com...
Joe Gwinn <joegwinn@comcast.net> on Sun, 30 Jan 2022 14:49:44 -0500
typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:
On Sat, 29 Jan 2022 17:03:53 -0800, pyotr filipivich
<phamp@mindspring.com> wrote:
"Jim Wilkins" <muratlanne@gmail.com> on Fri, 28 Jan 2022 07:11:11
-0500 typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:
"pyotr filipivich" wrote in message >>>>news:e6f6vglnju5mcqo07ta7l11cli0p0f4mvl@4ax.com...
That's pretty much it, I have a rolling mill, I have a bunch of solid >>>>wire of various gauges. I have in the past converted copper tubing / >>>>pipe into strips which then got used for decorations or hinges / >>>>fittings. "It worked".
But I am now wanting to recreate a pattern on the metal accents on
a box I got at a thrift store ("the hard ware is worth more than >>>>that!").
I know how to make punches so I could make a "die"on a flat piece
of steel. But the question then comes: how do I make the steel
"round" and attached to one of the rollers?
Or just use it as a plate pushed through the rolling mill? Hmm,
hadn't thought of that - might work,but depends on how much /long I >>>>want to make.
---------------------
Maybe they know: >>>>https://www.pannier.com/stamping/roll-rotary-marking/roll-marking-dies/
Oooh, neato. Will have to bookmark that one.
It looks better than the one I have. "Maybe."
What do you think of this type? >>>>https://www.amazon.com/Rolling-Mill-Jewelers-Grade-Rollers/dp/B000RB5CXC >>>
I'd read the one-star reviews - 28% failure rate.
Think I'll stick with the one I have until I find a real reason to
change.
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Is that similar to yours? I'm thinking about buying one, not suggesting that >you change.
"pyotr filipivich" wrote in message >news:jknevg9haoi996u1rs3jebv1lkf036uvbn@4ax.com...
Think I'll stick with the one I have until I find a real reason to
change.
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What do you have?
"pyotr filipivich" wrote in message >news:jknevg9haoi996u1rs3jebv1lkf036uvbn@4ax.com...
Think I'll stick with the one I have until I find a real reason to
change.
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What do you have?
"pyotr filipivich" wrote in message >news:f10hvglmpfjgd74ulbfu4hulog5j3p01a8@4ax.com...
"Jim Wilkins" <muratlanne@gmail.com> on Mon, 31 Jan 2022 17:58:53
-0500 typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:
"pyotr filipivich" wrote in message >>news:jknevg9haoi996u1rs3jebv1lkf036uvbn@4ax.com...
Think I'll stick with the one I have until I find a real reason to
change.
-----------------------
What do you have?
"a rusty one" - I do not know, it has been a while since I had it
out for a look see. Was a "here, take this thing" kind of deal. >------------------
Most of my shop is like that, but I can look up specs and read reviews of >only new, recent or common machines. My question is how useful a jewelry, >ring or tubing roller would be, and how easily modified with custom rolls. >For example, would the jewelry roller flatten copper waterpipe etc well >enough to use as a TO-220 heatsink? So far I've managed with an HF Compact >Bender and conduit benders.
... My question is how useful a jewelry,
ring or tubing roller would be, and how easily modified with custom rolls. For example, would the jewelry roller flatten copper waterpipe etc well enough to use as a TO-220 heatsink? So far I've managed with an HF Compact Bender and conduit benders.
On Tuesday, February 1, 2022 at 3:58:10 AM UTC-8, Jim Wilkins wrote:
... My question is how useful a jewelry,
ring or tubing roller would be, and how easily modified with custom rolls. >> For example, would the jewelry roller flatten copper waterpipe etc well
enough to use as a TO-220 heatsink? So far I've managed with an HF Compact >> Bender and conduit benders.
Oh, yeah; I've cold-rolled chrome-nickel alloys down with a hand roll, the design plan is sound.
Steel rollers, though, need some alloy selection and heat treatment to work well,
and don't ship internationally without high per-ounce penalty. Buy domestic.--
Oh, yeah; I've cold-rolled chrome-nickel alloys down with a hand roll, the >design plan is sound.
Steel rollers, though, need some alloy selection and heat treatment to work >well,
"pyotr filipivich" wrote in message >news:4t4ovg9rl7sgbstc14u2grtngvlm7nkbjj@4ax.com...
whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com> on Wed, 2 Feb 2022 17:28:37 -0800 (PST)
typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:
Oh, yeah; I've cold-rolled chrome-nickel alloys down with a hand roll, the >>design plan is sound.
Steel rollers, though, need some alloy selection and heat treatment to work >>well,
That is what I figured would be my "issue" with making my own. One
more thing to add to The List.
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I'd try cutoffs of case-hardened hydraulic cylinder rod.
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