• I feel Like An Idiot

    From Bob La Londe@21:1/5 to All on Sun May 14 12:12:54 2023
    I've got the larger (and the smaller) Harbor Freight horizontal band
    saws. The smaller one is now different than any other el cheapo 4x8 horizontal. The bigger one is quite good.

    The Super Cut blade for the smaller band saw is a stock item and holds
    up as well as any big name brand blade I have used. I don't even
    consider anything else for it any more. I actually have a spare on the
    wall behind the saw.

    A week or two ago I was in the local HF import store and saw they had 93
    inch (93-1/2) blades in stock. I was excited. No more having to order
    blades and waiting for somebody to cut and weld it, or ordering blades
    off eBay and hoping they did a better than average job at the blade
    welder. Sure I might decide I still want Lennox M42 blades, but I
    wouldn't have to keep a spare on hand all the time any more. Just pick
    up a cheap blade locally and be good to go while waiting for a better
    quality blade to arrive.

    Well, a couple days ago my blade broke. It was pretty worn (dull), and
    it gave hints of breaking (ba-bump, ba-bump, ba-bump) days before it
    actually separated. Just to make sure I took a quick look at the saw
    where I had written the correct blade size with a paint marker. 93-1/4
    (okay I can adjust that much) x 3/4.

    Yeah, NOPE! All the 93-1/2 stock blades at harbor freight are 1/2 inch
    wide, and unlike a vertical bandsaw you cant adjust a horizontal for a
    narrower blade. CRAP!

    Atleast, I still have the smaller saw. Now to figure out how to swing a
    12' piece of stock around so I can cut it on the 6' roller table (end
    butted up to the wall) its mounted on.




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    Bob La Londe
    CNC Molds N Stuff

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  • From Leon Fisk@21:1/5 to Bob La Londe on Sun May 14 15:42:50 2023
    On Sun, 14 May 2023 12:12:54 -0700
    Bob La Londe <none@none.com99> wrote:

    <snip>
    Atleast, I still have the smaller saw. Now to figure out how to swing a
    12' piece of stock around so I can cut it on the 6' roller table (end
    butted up to the wall) its mounted on.

    My Dad knocked a hole through our room dividing cement block wall in
    the basement at bandsaw height so he could feed too long pieces in from
    the opposite room ;-)

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  • From Bob La Londe@21:1/5 to Leon Fisk on Sun May 14 14:49:29 2023
    On 5/14/2023 12:42 PM, Leon Fisk wrote:
    On Sun, 14 May 2023 12:12:54 -0700
    Bob La Londe <none@none.com99> wrote:

    <snip>
    Atleast, I still have the smaller saw. Now to figure out how to swing a
    12' piece of stock around so I can cut it on the 6' roller table (end
    butted up to the wall) its mounted on.

    My Dad knocked a hole through our room dividing cement block wall in
    the basement at bandsaw height so he could feed too long pieces in from
    the opposite room ;-)



    I'll move the saw before I cut a hole in the wall, but I shouldn't have
    to now.

    Just for the heck of it I decided to check online to see if Tractor
    Supply had one. They had a blade called a "Hard Back" metal cutting
    blade in 93 x 3/4. My saw will adjust that far. 24.99 and in stock. I figured that's pretty cheap so I can risk it until some good blades come
    in.

    When I checked out the price was 7.49 on clearance, so I went back and
    bought them all. Four blades. Even if they only last half as long as
    name brand blades I'll be money ahead. They are a finer pitch than I
    like, but I run coolant so chip welding in the teeth isn't a big issue.

    That saw mostly gets used for aluminum. I cut most of my stainless on
    the little saw with oil.

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  • From Jim Wilkins@21:1/5 to All on Sun May 14 19:10:38 2023
    "Bob La Londe" wrote in message news:u3rbrm$2n2ne$1@dont-email.me...

    Atleast, I still have the smaller saw. Now to figure out how to swing a
    12' piece of stock around so I can cut it on the 6' roller table (end
    butted up to the wall) its mounted on.

    Bob La Londe
    CNC Molds N Stuff

    ---------------------------------

    I put bigger, better wheels on my 4x6 and roll it outdoors to cut long
    stock. My roller table is separate so it can be used with the planer, which needs it more seriously but less often. If the stock is fairly light I
    balance it on the saw and raise a support under the end(s), then move the
    stock to cutting position. If too heavy I position and support it with the platform stacker or hang it from a tripod, haven't needed to set up the
    gantry for this yet. This has let it cut long 4" square steel columns and 6" square landscaping timbers.

    Its width capacity is 8" against an extra fence of angle iron attached
    behind the OEM fence, which I ground parallel at the back edge to quickly
    align square against the new fence after angling it.

    The saw frame twists and the blade cuts crooked if the pavement under it is uneven. I move the handle end around until the raised & lowered blade stays very close to a try square held upright in the vise.

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  • From Snag@21:1/5 to Bob La Londe on Sun May 14 19:18:37 2023
    On 5/14/2023 2:12 PM, Bob La Londe wrote:
    I've got the larger (and the smaller) Harbor Freight horizontal band
    saws.  The smaller one is now different than any other el cheapo 4x8 horizontal.  The bigger one is quite good.

    The Super Cut blade for the smaller band saw is a stock item and holds
    up as well as any big name brand blade I have used.  I don't even
    consider anything else for it any more.  I actually have a spare on the
    wall behind the saw.

    A week or two ago I was in the local HF import store and saw they had 93
    inch (93-1/2) blades in stock.  I was excited.  No more having to order blades and waiting for somebody to cut and weld it, or ordering blades
    off eBay and hoping they did a better than average job at the blade
    welder.  Sure I might decide I still want Lennox M42 blades, but I
    wouldn't have to keep a spare on hand all the time any more.  Just pick
    up a cheap blade locally and be good to go while waiting for a better
    quality blade to arrive.

    Well, a couple days ago my blade broke.  It was pretty worn (dull), and
    it gave hints of breaking (ba-bump, ba-bump, ba-bump) days before it
    actually separated.  Just to make sure I took a quick look at the saw
    where I had written the correct blade size with a paint marker.  93-1/4 (okay I can adjust that much) x 3/4.

    Yeah, NOPE!  All the 93-1/2 stock blades at harbor freight are 1/2 inch wide, and unlike a vertical bandsaw you cant adjust a horizontal for a narrower blade.  CRAP!

    Atleast, I still have the smaller saw.  Now to figure out how to swing a
    12' piece of stock around so I can cut it on the 6' roller table (end
    butted up to the wall) its mounted on.





    I've been buying from L A Cuttng Products , and I'm happy with their
    product for the price . I can't remember the last time I actually wore
    one out (I get the M42) becuase I usually manage to do something stupid
    and ruin it before then . Usually involves thin stock ...
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  • From Bob La Londe@21:1/5 to Snag on Sun May 14 19:38:06 2023
    On 5/14/2023 5:18 PM, Snag wrote:
    On 5/14/2023 2:12 PM, Bob La Londe wrote:
    I've got the larger (and the smaller) Harbor Freight horizontal band
    saws.  The smaller one is now different than any other el cheapo 4x8
    horizontal.  The bigger one is quite good.

    The Super Cut blade for the smaller band saw is a stock item and holds
    up as well as any big name brand blade I have used.  I don't even
    consider anything else for it any more.  I actually have a spare on
    the wall behind the saw.

    A week or two ago I was in the local HF import store and saw they had
    93 inch (93-1/2) blades in stock.  I was excited.  No more having to
    order blades and waiting for somebody to cut and weld it, or ordering
    blades off eBay and hoping they did a better than average job at the
    blade welder.  Sure I might decide I still want Lennox M42 blades, but
    I wouldn't have to keep a spare on hand all the time any more.  Just
    pick up a cheap blade locally and be good to go while waiting for a
    better quality blade to arrive.

    Well, a couple days ago my blade broke.  It was pretty worn (dull),
    and it gave hints of breaking (ba-bump, ba-bump, ba-bump) days before
    it actually separated.  Just to make sure I took a quick look at the
    saw where I had written the correct blade size with a paint marker.
    93-1/4 (okay I can adjust that much) x 3/4.

    Yeah, NOPE!  All the 93-1/2 stock blades at harbor freight are 1/2
    inch wide, and unlike a vertical bandsaw you cant adjust a horizontal
    for a narrower blade.  CRAP!

    Atleast, I still have the smaller saw.  Now to figure out how to swing
    a 12' piece of stock around so I can cut it on the 6' roller table
    (end butted up to the wall) its mounted on.





      I've been buying from L A Cuttng Products , and I'm happy with their product for the price . I can't remember the last time I actually wore
    one out (I get the M42) becuase I usually manage to do something stupid
    and ruin it before then . Usually involves thin stock ...

    I got a couple blades from them a long time ago. I think it was on your recommendation. They arrived only partially welded. I contacted them
    about it and got no response. The blades were okay, but both broke at
    the weld before I thought they were dull. I have been buying blades
    from MSC for the bigger saws, but they don't tell you that none of the
    sizes they list actually exist in the warehouse. They are all cut and
    welded to order so it takes a few days longer than you would think.
    I've been buying the Lennox bimetal M42 blades, and the welds have never
    been an issue from MSC.

    On the CamBam forum I posted about this and Lloyd Sponenburgh mentioned
    he also liked the SuperCut bimetal blades from Harbor Freight. I recall
    having seen the name at other than Harbor Freight before so I looked
    them up today. They make their premium blades in sizes that fit most
    saws. You just can't buy them from Harbor Freight.

    https://supercutbandsaw.com/

    They sell carbon steel (pretty cheap) and bi-metal (kinda expensive) for
    metal in most sizes.

    The have a few options for wood in most lengths as well, but they don't
    lean into the wood market like Woodcraft or Highland. I am particularly
    fond of the Highland Wood Slicer for resaw work.

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    Bob La Londe
    CNC Molds N Stuff


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  • From Snag@21:1/5 to Bob La Londe on Sun May 14 22:28:37 2023
    On 5/14/2023 9:38 PM, Bob La Londe wrote:
    On 5/14/2023 5:18 PM, Snag wrote:
    On 5/14/2023 2:12 PM, Bob La Londe wrote:
    I've got the larger (and the smaller) Harbor Freight horizontal band
    saws.  The smaller one is now different than any other el cheapo 4x8
    horizontal.  The bigger one is quite good.

    The Super Cut blade for the smaller band saw is a stock item and
    holds up as well as any big name brand blade I have used.  I don't
    even consider anything else for it any more.  I actually have a spare
    on the wall behind the saw.

    A week or two ago I was in the local HF import store and saw they had
    93 inch (93-1/2) blades in stock.  I was excited.  No more having to
    order blades and waiting for somebody to cut and weld it, or ordering
    blades off eBay and hoping they did a better than average job at the
    blade welder.  Sure I might decide I still want Lennox M42 blades,
    but I wouldn't have to keep a spare on hand all the time any more.
    Just pick up a cheap blade locally and be good to go while waiting
    for a better quality blade to arrive.

    Well, a couple days ago my blade broke.  It was pretty worn (dull),
    and it gave hints of breaking (ba-bump, ba-bump, ba-bump) days before
    it actually separated.  Just to make sure I took a quick look at the
    saw where I had written the correct blade size with a paint marker.
    93-1/4 (okay I can adjust that much) x 3/4.

    Yeah, NOPE!  All the 93-1/2 stock blades at harbor freight are 1/2
    inch wide, and unlike a vertical bandsaw you cant adjust a horizontal
    for a narrower blade.  CRAP!

    Atleast, I still have the smaller saw.  Now to figure out how to
    swing a 12' piece of stock around so I can cut it on the 6' roller
    table (end butted up to the wall) its mounted on.





       I've been buying from L A Cuttng Products , and I'm happy with
    their product for the price . I can't remember the last time I
    actually wore one out (I get the M42) becuase I usually manage to do
    something stupid and ruin it before then . Usually involves thin stock
    ...

    I got a couple blades from them a long time ago.  I think it was on your recommendation.  They arrived only partially welded.  I contacted them about it and got no response.  The blades were okay, but both broke at
    the weld before I thought they were dull.  I have been buying blades
    from MSC for the bigger saws, but they don't tell you that none of the
    sizes they list actually exist in the warehouse.  They are all cut and welded to order so it takes a few days longer than you would think. I've
    been buying the Lennox bimetal M42 blades, and the welds have never been
    an issue from MSC.

    On the CamBam forum I posted about this and Lloyd Sponenburgh mentioned
    he also liked the SuperCut bimetal blades from Harbor Freight.  I recall having seen the name at other than Harbor Freight before so I looked
    them up today.  They make their premium blades in sizes that fit most saws.  You just can't buy them from Harbor Freight.

    https://supercutbandsaw.com/

    They sell carbon steel (pretty cheap) and bi-metal (kinda expensive) for metal in most sizes.

    The have a few options for wood in most lengths as well, but they don't
    lean into the wood market like Woodcraft or Highland.  I am particularly fond of the Highland Wood Slicer for resaw work.


    Bummer that you got bad service from them . Everything I've bought
    from them has been top notch , but then I only buy 2 sizes - Portaband
    and 4x6 and both are among the most common around .
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  • From Bob La Londe@21:1/5 to Snag on Sun May 14 20:57:13 2023
    On 5/14/2023 8:28 PM, Snag wrote:
    On 5/14/2023 9:38 PM, Bob La Londe wrote:
    On 5/14/2023 5:18 PM, Snag wrote:
    On 5/14/2023 2:12 PM, Bob La Londe wrote:
    I've got the larger (and the smaller) Harbor Freight horizontal band
    saws.  The smaller one is now different than any other el cheapo 4x8
    horizontal.  The bigger one is quite good.

    The Super Cut blade for the smaller band saw is a stock item and
    holds up as well as any big name brand blade I have used.  I don't
    even consider anything else for it any more.  I actually have a
    spare on the wall behind the saw.

    A week or two ago I was in the local HF import store and saw they
    had 93 inch (93-1/2) blades in stock.  I was excited.  No more
    having to order blades and waiting for somebody to cut and weld it,
    or ordering blades off eBay and hoping they did a better than
    average job at the blade welder.  Sure I might decide I still want
    Lennox M42 blades, but I wouldn't have to keep a spare on hand all
    the time any more. Just pick up a cheap blade locally and be good to
    go while waiting for a better quality blade to arrive.

    Well, a couple days ago my blade broke.  It was pretty worn (dull),
    and it gave hints of breaking (ba-bump, ba-bump, ba-bump) days
    before it actually separated.  Just to make sure I took a quick look
    at the saw where I had written the correct blade size with a paint
    marker. 93-1/4 (okay I can adjust that much) x 3/4.

    Yeah, NOPE!  All the 93-1/2 stock blades at harbor freight are 1/2
    inch wide, and unlike a vertical bandsaw you cant adjust a
    horizontal for a narrower blade.  CRAP!

    Atleast, I still have the smaller saw.  Now to figure out how to
    swing a 12' piece of stock around so I can cut it on the 6' roller
    table (end butted up to the wall) its mounted on.





       I've been buying from L A Cuttng Products , and I'm happy with
    their product for the price . I can't remember the last time I
    actually wore one out (I get the M42) becuase I usually manage to do
    something stupid and ruin it before then . Usually involves thin
    stock ...

    I got a couple blades from them a long time ago.  I think it was on
    your recommendation.  They arrived only partially welded.  I contacted
    them about it and got no response.  The blades were okay, but both
    broke at the weld before I thought they were dull.  I have been buying
    blades from MSC for the bigger saws, but they don't tell you that none
    of the sizes they list actually exist in the warehouse.  They are all
    cut and welded to order so it takes a few days longer than you would
    think. I've been buying the Lennox bimetal M42 blades, and the welds
    have never been an issue from MSC.

    On the CamBam forum I posted about this and Lloyd Sponenburgh
    mentioned he also liked the SuperCut bimetal blades from Harbor
    Freight.  I recall having seen the name at other than Harbor Freight
    before so I looked them up today.  They make their premium blades in
    sizes that fit most saws.  You just can't buy them from Harbor Freight.

    https://supercutbandsaw.com/

    They sell carbon steel (pretty cheap) and bi-metal (kinda expensive)
    for metal in most sizes.

    The have a few options for wood in most lengths as well, but they
    don't lean into the wood market like Woodcraft or Highland.  I am
    particularly fond of the Highland Wood Slicer for resaw work.


      Bummer that you got bad service from them .

    No hard feelings. I won't buy from them again if there are other
    options. The blades came with an expiration date like HP printer
    cartridges. LOL. (No HP printers in this shop either.)


    Everything I've bought
    from them has been top notch , but then I only buy 2 sizes - Portaband
    and 4x6 and both are among the most common around .


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    CNC Molds N Stuff


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  • From Jim Wilkins@21:1/5 to All on Mon May 15 06:33:15 2023
    "Snag" wrote in message news:u3rtp0$2p3k4$1@dont-email.me...

    I've been buying from L A Cuttng Products , and I'm happy with their
    product for the price . I can't remember the last time I actually wore
    one out (I get the M42) becuase I usually manage to do something stupid
    and ruin it before then . Usually involves thin stock ...
    Snag

    ----------------------------

    I bought these for thin tubing and angle and haven't had a problem yet. https://www.amazon.com/Bosch-BS6412-24M-2-Inch-24TPI-Bandsaw/dp/B0062IBH6A

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  • From Jim Wilkins@21:1/5 to All on Mon May 15 06:55:32 2023
    "Bob La Londe" wrote in message news:u3s5uf$2tbks$1@dont-email.me...

    On the CamBam forum I posted about this and Lloyd Sponenburgh mentioned
    he also liked the SuperCut bimetal blades from Harbor Freight. I recall
    having seen the name at other than Harbor Freight before so I looked
    them up today. They make their premium blades in sizes that fit most
    saws. You just can't buy them from Harbor Freight.

    Bob La Londe

    -------------------------

    Thanks. I just discovered that the HF battery fluid pump is another
    unexpected goodie. https://www.harborfreight.com/battery-operated-liquid-transfer-pump-63847.html

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  • From randy333@aol.com@21:1/5 to All on Tue May 16 11:30:23 2023
    On Sun, 14 May 2023 14:49:29 -0700, Bob La Londe <none@none.com99>
    wrote:

    Just for the heck of it I decided to check online to see if Tractor
    Supply had one. They had a blade called a "Hard Back" metal cutting
    blade in 93 x 3/4.

    "HARD BACK" is just a carbon steel blade. OK for aluminum, will not
    last long in SS.

    Randy

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  • From Bob La Londe@21:1/5 to randy333@aol.com on Tue May 16 11:31:30 2023
    On 5/16/2023 8:30 AM, randy333@aol.com wrote:
    On Sun, 14 May 2023 14:49:29 -0700, Bob La Londe <none@none.com99>
    wrote:

    Just for the heck of it I decided to check online to see if Tractor
    Supply had one. They had a blade called a "Hard Back" metal cutting
    blade in 93 x 3/4.

    "HARD BACK" is just a carbon steel blade. OK for aluminum, will not
    last long in SS.

    Randy

    Yeah, I pretty much figured to treat them like plane carbon steel blades.

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    CNC Molds N Stuff


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