From Don Hobbs@21:1/5 to All on Thu Aug 18 21:14:51 2022
Sounds like many of you have forgotten where you came from! You all started somewhere and leading a climb was certainly NOT it. You top roped or followed leads. Then you learned about pro and to lead. Perhaps you have a leader, but the partner doesn't
yet know how to belay or remove gear. Should they be grounded? Of course not. Top roping is part of the deal. It's first come, first served just as it has always been. Stop the elitist behavior. This isn't YOUR playground, it's for everyone-- beginners
and experts and elitists. If you are such amazing climbers, you'd be doing way harder stuff than someone doing a top rope climb. Find another harder route to claim.