• Do not read this summary

    From Bill@21:1/5 to All on Fri Dec 30 12:46:41 2022
    You're not going to like it.

    https://january6th.house.gov/report-executive-summary

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  • From gfretwell@aol.com@21:1/5 to All on Sat Dec 31 01:55:14 2022
    On Fri, 30 Dec 2022 12:46:41 -0800, Bill <califbill9998@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    You're not going to like it.

    https://january6th.house.gov/report-executive-summary

    Let me guess, it was all Trump's fault.
    Nobody in the Cap Po or the Sargent at Arms office was to blame for
    the fiasco at all.

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  • From wayne.beardsley@gmail.com@21:1/5 to gfre...@aol.com on Sat Dec 31 06:37:07 2022
    On Saturday, December 31, 2022 at 1:55:44 AM UTC-5, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
    On Fri, 30 Dec 2022 12:46:41 -0800, Bill <califb...@gmail.com>
    wrote:
    You're not going to like it.

    https://january6th.house.gov/report-executive-summary
    Let me guess, it was all Trump's fault.
    Nobody in the Cap Po or the Sargent at Arms office was to blame for
    the fiasco at all.

    ===

    If someone robs a bank, do you blame the robber, or the guard who was unsuccessful at stopping it?

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  • From gfretwell@aol.com@21:1/5 to waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com on Sat Dec 31 10:45:07 2022
    On Sat, 31 Dec 2022 06:37:07 -0800 (PST),
    "waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com" <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Saturday, December 31, 2022 at 1:55:44 AM UTC-5, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
    On Fri, 30 Dec 2022 12:46:41 -0800, Bill <califb...@gmail.com>
    wrote:
    You're not going to like it.

    https://january6th.house.gov/report-executive-summary
    Let me guess, it was all Trump's fault.
    Nobody in the Cap Po or the Sargent at Arms office was to blame for
    the fiasco at all.

    ===

    If someone robs a bank, do you blame the robber, or the guard who was unsuccessful at stopping it?

    If I own the bank I am going to evaluate my security to see how an
    unarmed guy got into the vault.

    They really need to ask "if a couple dozen unarmed rabble rousers
    could talk a mob into invading the Capitol, virtually unopposed, what
    could a team of well armed terrorists do"?
    This committee had one goal, find a charge that would prevent Trump
    from running again. They totally ignored the systemic problems that
    allowed this to happen in the first place. The Democrat leadership
    appeared to want this to be a shit show and it simply turned out worse
    than they planned. (or maybe better than they could hope for)
    The elephant in the room that they ignore is the 73 million people so disgruntled at the failures of the government that they could vote for
    Trump. This witch hunt only stiffens their resolve.

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  • From wayne.beardsley@gmail.com@21:1/5 to gfre...@aol.com on Sat Dec 31 08:50:10 2022
    On Saturday, December 31, 2022 at 10:45:40 AM UTC-5, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
    On Sat, 31 Dec 2022 06:37:07 -0800 (PST),
    "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Saturday, December 31, 2022 at 1:55:44 AM UTC-5, gfre...@aol.com wrote: >> On Fri, 30 Dec 2022 12:46:41 -0800, Bill <califb...@gmail.com>
    wrote:
    You're not going to like it.

    https://january6th.house.gov/report-executive-summary
    Let me guess, it was all Trump's fault.
    Nobody in the Cap Po or the Sargent at Arms office was to blame for
    the fiasco at all.

    ===

    If someone robs a bank, do you blame the robber, or the guard who was unsuccessful at stopping it?
    If I own the bank I am going to evaluate my security to see how an
    unarmed guy got into the vault.

    They really need to ask "if a couple dozen unarmed rabble rousers
    could talk a mob into invading the Capitol, virtually unopposed, what
    could a team of well armed terrorists do"?
    This committee had one goal, find a charge that would prevent Trump
    from running again. They totally ignored the systemic problems that
    allowed this to happen in the first place. The Democrat leadership
    appeared to want this to be a shit show and it simply turned out worse
    than they planned. (or maybe better than they could hope for)
    The elephant in the room that they ignore is the 73 million people so disgruntled at the failures of the government that they could vote for Trump. This witch hunt only stiffens their resolve.

    ===

    Trump was very good at tapping into the fears and grievances of the disgruntled. So was Adolph Hitler. He also illuminated and amplified some very real issues - things like the porosity of our southern border. That said, he has always been a scoundrel
    and still is.

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  • From Robot@21:1/5 to waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com on Sat Dec 31 16:26:45 2022
    On Sat, 31 Dec 2022 08:50:10 -0800 (PST),
    "waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com" <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Saturday, December 31, 2022 at 10:45:40 AM UTC-5, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
    On Sat, 31 Dec 2022 06:37:07 -0800 (PST),
    "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Saturday, December 31, 2022 at 1:55:44 AM UTC-5, gfre...@aol.com wrote: >> >> On Fri, 30 Dec 2022 12:46:41 -0800, Bill <califb...@gmail.com>
    wrote:
    You're not going to like it.

    https://january6th.house.gov/report-executive-summary
    Let me guess, it was all Trump's fault.
    Nobody in the Cap Po or the Sargent at Arms office was to blame for
    the fiasco at all.

    ===

    If someone robs a bank, do you blame the robber, or the guard who was unsuccessful at stopping it?
    If I own the bank I am going to evaluate my security to see how an
    unarmed guy got into the vault.

    They really need to ask "if a couple dozen unarmed rabble rousers
    could talk a mob into invading the Capitol, virtually unopposed, what
    could a team of well armed terrorists do"?
    This committee had one goal, find a charge that would prevent Trump
    from running again. They totally ignored the systemic problems that
    allowed this to happen in the first place. The Democrat leadership
    appeared to want this to be a shit show and it simply turned out worse
    than they planned. (or maybe better than they could hope for)
    The elephant in the room that they ignore is the 73 million people so
    disgruntled at the failures of the government that they could vote for
    Trump. This witch hunt only stiffens their resolve.

    ===

    Trump was very good at tapping into the fears and grievances of the disgruntled. So was Adolph Hitler. He also illuminated and amplified some very real issues - things like the porosity of our southern border. That said, he has always been a scoundrel
    and still is.

    Fretwell is just fine with Adolf. Fretwell and his bros are also
    responsible.

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  • From gfretwelll@aol.com@21:1/5 to gfretwell@aol.com on Sat Dec 31 16:25:41 2022
    On Sat, 31 Dec 2022 10:45:07 -0500, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:

    On Sat, 31 Dec 2022 06:37:07 -0800 (PST),
    "waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com" <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Saturday, December 31, 2022 at 1:55:44 AM UTC-5, gfre...@aol.com wrote: >>> On Fri, 30 Dec 2022 12:46:41 -0800, Bill <califb...@gmail.com>
    wrote:
    You're not going to like it.

    https://january6th.house.gov/report-executive-summary
    Let me guess, it was all Trump's fault.
    Nobody in the Cap Po or the Sargent at Arms office was to blame for
    the fiasco at all.

    ===

    If someone robs a bank, do you blame the robber, or the guard who was unsuccessful at stopping it?

    If I own the bank I am going to evaluate my security to see how an
    unarmed guy got into the vault.

    They really need to ask "if a couple dozen unarmed rabble rousers
    could talk a mob into invading the Capitol, virtually unopposed, what
    could a team of well armed terrorists do"?
    This committee had one goal, find a charge that would prevent Trump
    from running again. They totally ignored the systemic problems that
    allowed this to happen in the first place. The Democrat leadership
    appeared to want this to be a shit show and it simply turned out worse
    than they planned. (or maybe better than they could hope for)
    The elephant in the room that they ignore is the 73 million people so >disgruntled at the failures of the government that they could vote for
    Trump. This witch hunt only stiffens their resolve.


    Yes, unopposed by thos 140 cops who were injured. Fuck I'm stupid.

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  • From gfretwelll@aol.com@21:1/5 to gfretwell@aol.com on Sat Dec 31 16:24:38 2022
    On Sat, 31 Dec 2022 01:55:14 -0500, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:

    On Fri, 30 Dec 2022 12:46:41 -0800, Bill <califbill9998@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    You're not going to like it.

    https://january6th.house.gov/report-executive-summary

    Let me guess, it was all Trump's fault.
    Nobody in the Cap Po or the Sargent at Arms office was to blame for
    the fiasco at all.

    No need to guess that I'm a fucking piece of shit.

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  • From Robot@21:1/5 to gfretwell@aol.com on Sat Dec 31 16:27:16 2022
    On Sat, 31 Dec 2022 01:55:14 -0500, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:

    On Fri, 30 Dec 2022 12:46:41 -0800, Bill <califbill9998@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    You're not going to like it.

    https://january6th.house.gov/report-executive-summary

    Let me guess, it was all Trump's fault.
    Nobody in the Cap Po or the Sargent at Arms office was to blame for
    the fiasco at all.

    So, you're too much of a chickenshit to read it. Got it.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From gfretwell@aol.com@21:1/5 to waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com on Sun Jan 1 03:45:07 2023
    On Sat, 31 Dec 2022 08:50:10 -0800 (PST),
    "waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com" <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Saturday, December 31, 2022 at 10:45:40 AM UTC-5, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
    On Sat, 31 Dec 2022 06:37:07 -0800 (PST),
    "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Saturday, December 31, 2022 at 1:55:44 AM UTC-5, gfre...@aol.com wrote: >> >> On Fri, 30 Dec 2022 12:46:41 -0800, Bill <califb...@gmail.com>
    wrote:
    You're not going to like it.

    https://january6th.house.gov/report-executive-summary
    Let me guess, it was all Trump's fault.
    Nobody in the Cap Po or the Sargent at Arms office was to blame for
    the fiasco at all.

    ===

    If someone robs a bank, do you blame the robber, or the guard who was unsuccessful at stopping it?
    If I own the bank I am going to evaluate my security to see how an
    unarmed guy got into the vault.

    They really need to ask "if a couple dozen unarmed rabble rousers
    could talk a mob into invading the Capitol, virtually unopposed, what
    could a team of well armed terrorists do"?
    This committee had one goal, find a charge that would prevent Trump
    from running again. They totally ignored the systemic problems that
    allowed this to happen in the first place. The Democrat leadership
    appeared to want this to be a shit show and it simply turned out worse
    than they planned. (or maybe better than they could hope for)
    The elephant in the room that they ignore is the 73 million people so
    disgruntled at the failures of the government that they could vote for
    Trump. This witch hunt only stiffens their resolve.

    ===

    Trump was very good at tapping into the fears and grievances of the disgruntled. So was Adolph Hitler. He also illuminated and amplified some very real issues - things like the porosity of our southern border. That said, he has always been a scoundrel
    and still is.

    Trump is just the raw politician without the handlers.
    They all tap into our fears and feed us the pablum that makes us
    forget they are full of shit.

    The hitler analogy is not totally off base but it isn't a hitler
    problem, it is a despair problem. When this mess crashes down on us
    we will end up with someone like that.

    Viral story of dubious provenance but a frightening look at reality.

    ***************************
    About the time our original thirteen states adopted their new
    constitution in 1787, Alexander Tyler, a Scottish history professor at
    the University of Edinburgh, had this to say about the fall of the
    Athenian Republic some 2,000 years earlier:

    "A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as
    a permanent form of government."

    "A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters
    discover they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public
    treasury."

    "From that moment on, the majority always vote for the candidates who
    promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result
    that every democracy will finally collapse due to loose fiscal policy,
    which is always followed by a dictatorship."

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  • From John H@21:1/5 to gfretwell@aol.com on Sun Jan 1 08:16:50 2023
    On Sun, 01 Jan 2023 03:45:07 -0500, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:

    On Sat, 31 Dec 2022 08:50:10 -0800 (PST),
    "waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com" <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Saturday, December 31, 2022 at 10:45:40 AM UTC-5, gfre...@aol.com wrote: >>> On Sat, 31 Dec 2022 06:37:07 -0800 (PST),
    "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Saturday, December 31, 2022 at 1:55:44 AM UTC-5, gfre...@aol.com wrote: >>> >> On Fri, 30 Dec 2022 12:46:41 -0800, Bill <califb...@gmail.com>
    wrote:
    You're not going to like it.

    https://january6th.house.gov/report-executive-summary
    Let me guess, it was all Trump's fault.
    Nobody in the Cap Po or the Sargent at Arms office was to blame for
    the fiasco at all.

    ===

    If someone robs a bank, do you blame the robber, or the guard who was unsuccessful at stopping it?
    If I own the bank I am going to evaluate my security to see how an
    unarmed guy got into the vault.

    They really need to ask "if a couple dozen unarmed rabble rousers
    could talk a mob into invading the Capitol, virtually unopposed, what
    could a team of well armed terrorists do"?
    This committee had one goal, find a charge that would prevent Trump
    from running again. They totally ignored the systemic problems that
    allowed this to happen in the first place. The Democrat leadership
    appeared to want this to be a shit show and it simply turned out worse
    than they planned. (or maybe better than they could hope for)
    The elephant in the room that they ignore is the 73 million people so
    disgruntled at the failures of the government that they could vote for
    Trump. This witch hunt only stiffens their resolve.

    ===

    Trump was very good at tapping into the fears and grievances of the disgruntled. So was Adolph Hitler. He also illuminated and amplified some very real issues - things like the porosity of our southern border. That said, he has always been a
    scoundrel and still is.

    Trump is just the raw politician without the handlers.
    They all tap into our fears and feed us the pablum that makes us
    forget they are full of shit.

    The hitler analogy is not totally off base but it isn't a hitler
    problem, it is a despair problem. When this mess crashes down on us
    we will end up with someone like that.

    Viral story of dubious provenance but a frightening look at reality.

    ***************************
    About the time our original thirteen states adopted their new
    constitution in 1787, Alexander Tyler, a Scottish history professor at
    the University of Edinburgh, had this to say about the fall of the
    Athenian Republic some 2,000 years earlier:

    "A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as
    a permanent form of government."

    "A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters
    discover they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public
    treasury."

    "From that moment on, the majority always vote for the candidates who
    promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result
    that every democracy will finally collapse due to loose fiscal policy,
    which is always followed by a dictatorship."

    Goodness, that would help explain the Democrats' desire to have an
    open border with Mexico.

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  • From 3452471@gmail.com@21:1/5 to waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com on Sun Jan 1 09:09:09 2023
    On Saturday, December 31, 2022 at 9:37:09 AM UTC-5, waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com wrote:
    On Saturday, December 31, 2022 at 1:55:44 AM UTC-5, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
    On Fri, 30 Dec 2022 12:46:41 -0800, Bill <califb...@gmail.com>
    wrote:
    You're not going to like it.

    https://january6th.house.gov/report-executive-summary
    Let me guess, it was all Trump's fault.
    Nobody in the Cap Po or the Sargent at Arms office was to blame for
    the fiasco at all.
    ===

    If someone robs a bank, do you blame the robber, or the guard who was unsuccessful at stopping it?

    Nice non-sequitur, but let me fix that for you:
    Someone that you know is coming to rob you, has said they are coming, the people you have watching for such things tell you that they are coming
    with more manpower than you have at your bank, and yet you do nothing to protect your bank. That's not a robbery, it's a security failure.
    Who would a truly independent panel be looking at as a root cause of the security failure? Hint... it's not the robber.

    But I would expect no better from Pelosi and her comrades.

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  • From John@21:1/5 to justan on Sun Jan 1 10:12:52 2023
    On Sun, 1 Jan 2023 12:19:03 -0500 (EST), justan <me@here.com> wrote:

    John H <jherring@cox.net> Wrote in message:r
    On Sun, 01 Jan 2023 03:45:07 -0500, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:>On Sat, 31 Dec 2022 08:50:10 -0800 (PST),>"waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com" <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote:>>>On Saturday, December 31, 2022 at 10:45:40 AM UTC-5, gfre...@aol.com wrote:>>>
    On Sat, 31 Dec 2022 06:37:07 -0800 (PST), >>> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> >On Saturday, December 31, 2022 at 1:55:44 AM UTC-5, gfre...@aol.com wrote: >>> >> On Fri, 30 Dec 2022 12:46:41 -0800, Bill <califb...@gmail.
    wrote: >>> >> >You're not going to like it. >>> >> > >>> >> >https://january6th.house.gov/report-executive-summary >>> >> Let me guess, it was all Trump's fault. >>> >> Nobody in the Cap Po or the Sargent at Arms office was to blame for >>> >>
    the fiasco at all. >>> > >>> >=== >>> > >>> >If someone robs a bank, do you blame the robber, or the guard who was unsuccessful at stopping it?>>> If I own the bank I am going to evaluate my security to see how an >>> unarmed guy got
    into the vault. >>> >>> They really need to ask "if a couple dozen unarmed rabble rousers >>> could talk a mob into invading the Capitol, virtually unopposed, what >>> could a team of well armed terrorists do"? >>> This committee had one goal, find a
    charge that would prevent Trump >>> from running again. They totally ignored the systemic problems that >>> allowed this to happen in the first place. The Democrat leadership >>> appeared to want this to be a shit show and it simply turned out worse >>>
    than they planned. (or maybe better than they could hope for) >>> The elephant in the room that they ignore is the 73 million people so >>> disgruntled at the failures of the government that they could vote for >>> Trump. This witch hunt only stiffens
    their resolve.>>>>===>>>>Trump was very good at tapping into the fears and grievances of the disgruntled. So was Adolph Hitler. He also illuminated and amplified some very real issues - things like the porosity of our southern border.
    That
    said, he has always been a scoundrel and still is.>>Trump is just the raw politician without the handlers. >They all tap into our fears and feed us the pablum that makes us>forget they are full of shit.>>The hitler analogy is not totally off base but it
    isn't a hitler>problem, it is a despair problem. When this mess crashes down on us>we will end up with someone like that.>>Viral story of dubious provenance but a frightening look at reality.>>***************************>About the time our original
    thirteen states adopted their new>constitution in 1787, Alexander Tyler, a Scottish history professor at>the University of Edinburgh, had this to say about the fall of the>Athenian Republic some 2,000 years earlier:>>"A democracy is always temporary in
    nature; it simply cannot exist as>a permanent form of government.">>"A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters>discover they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public>treasury.">>"From that moment on, the
    majority always vote for the candidates who>promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result>that every democracy will finally collapse due to loose fiscal policy,>which is always followed by a dictatorship."Goodness, that would help
    explain the Democrats' desire to have anopen border with Mexico.

    We must educate Wayne and others to the fact that empowering the
    democratic party will destroy our democracy. Enlightened folks
    see that the process has already started. God help us
    all.

    Don't watch this. You won't like it.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJVDRGUy2-8

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  • From justan@21:1/5 to gfretwelll@aol.com on Sun Jan 1 12:24:42 2023
    gfretwelll@aol.com Wrote in message:r
    On Sat, 31 Dec 2022 01:55:14 -0500, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:>On Fri, 30 Dec 2022 12:46:41 -0800, Bill <califbill9998@gmail.com>>wrote:>>>You're not going to like it.>>>>https://january6th.house.gov/report-executive-summary>>Let me guess, it was all
    Trump's fault. >Nobody in the Cap Po or the Sargent at Arms office was to blame for>the fiasco at all. No need to guess that I'm a fucking piece of shit.

    That's obvious. You'd have to be a LOT smarter if you want for us
    to believe you are Greg.
    4 years at Klown Kollege in Kansas hasn"t served you well, loser.
    --
    Vote the straight GOP ticket to save the USA and the world as we
    know it.


    ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.html

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  • From John@21:1/5 to John H on Sun Jan 1 10:12:11 2023
    On Sun, 01 Jan 2023 08:16:50 -0500, John H <jherring@cox.net> wrote:

    On Sun, 01 Jan 2023 03:45:07 -0500, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:

    On Sat, 31 Dec 2022 08:50:10 -0800 (PST),
    "waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com" <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Saturday, December 31, 2022 at 10:45:40 AM UTC-5, gfre...@aol.com wrote: >>>> On Sat, 31 Dec 2022 06:37:07 -0800 (PST),
    "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Saturday, December 31, 2022 at 1:55:44 AM UTC-5, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
    On Fri, 30 Dec 2022 12:46:41 -0800, Bill <califb...@gmail.com>
    wrote:
    You're not going to like it.

    https://january6th.house.gov/report-executive-summary
    Let me guess, it was all Trump's fault.
    Nobody in the Cap Po or the Sargent at Arms office was to blame for >>>> >> the fiasco at all.

    ===

    If someone robs a bank, do you blame the robber, or the guard who was unsuccessful at stopping it?
    If I own the bank I am going to evaluate my security to see how an
    unarmed guy got into the vault.

    They really need to ask "if a couple dozen unarmed rabble rousers
    could talk a mob into invading the Capitol, virtually unopposed, what
    could a team of well armed terrorists do"?
    This committee had one goal, find a charge that would prevent Trump
    from running again. They totally ignored the systemic problems that
    allowed this to happen in the first place. The Democrat leadership
    appeared to want this to be a shit show and it simply turned out worse >>>> than they planned. (or maybe better than they could hope for)
    The elephant in the room that they ignore is the 73 million people so
    disgruntled at the failures of the government that they could vote for >>>> Trump. This witch hunt only stiffens their resolve.

    ===

    Trump was very good at tapping into the fears and grievances of the disgruntled. So was Adolph Hitler. He also illuminated and amplified some very real issues - things like the porosity of our southern border. That said, he has always been a
    scoundrel and still is.

    Trump is just the raw politician without the handlers.
    They all tap into our fears and feed us the pablum that makes us
    forget they are full of shit.

    The hitler analogy is not totally off base but it isn't a hitler
    problem, it is a despair problem. When this mess crashes down on us
    we will end up with someone like that.

    Viral story of dubious provenance but a frightening look at reality.

    ***************************
    About the time our original thirteen states adopted their new
    constitution in 1787, Alexander Tyler, a Scottish history professor at
    the University of Edinburgh, had this to say about the fall of the
    Athenian Republic some 2,000 years earlier:

    "A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as
    a permanent form of government."

    "A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters
    discover they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public
    treasury."

    "From that moment on, the majority always vote for the candidates who >>promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result
    that every democracy will finally collapse due to loose fiscal policy, >>which is always followed by a dictatorship."

    Goodness, that would help explain the Democrats' desire to have an
    open border with Mexico.

    Goodness, I'm stupid.

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  • From justan@21:1/5 to John H on Sun Jan 1 12:19:03 2023
    John H <jherring@cox.net> Wrote in message:r
    On Sun, 01 Jan 2023 03:45:07 -0500, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:>On Sat, 31 Dec 2022 08:50:10 -0800 (PST),>"waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com" <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote:>>>On Saturday, December 31, 2022 at 10:45:40 AM UTC-5, gfre...@aol.com wrote:>>>
    On Sat, 31 Dec 2022 06:37:07 -0800 (PST), >>> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> >On Saturday, December 31, 2022 at 1:55:44 AM UTC-5, gfre...@aol.com wrote: >>> >> On Fri, 30 Dec 2022 12:46:41 -0800, Bill <califb...@gmail.
    wrote: >>> >> >You're not going to like it. >>> >> > >>> >> >https://january6th.house.gov/report-executive-summary >>> >> Let me guess, it was all Trump's fault. >>> >> Nobody in the Cap Po or the Sargent at Arms office was to blame for >>> >>
    the fiasco at all. >>> > >>> >=== >>> > >>> >If someone robs a bank, do you blame the robber, or the guard who was unsuccessful at stopping it?>>> If I own the bank I am going to evaluate my security to see how an >>> unarmed guy got into the vault. >>>
    They really need to ask "if a couple dozen unarmed rabble rousers >>> could talk a mob into invading the Capitol, virtually unopposed, what >>> could a team of well armed terrorists do"? >>> This committee had one goal, find a charge that would
    prevent Trump >>> from running again. They totally ignored the systemic problems that >>> allowed this to happen in the first place. The Democrat leadership >>> appeared to want this to be a shit show and it simply turned out worse >>> than they planned.
    (or maybe better than they could hope for) >>> The elephant in the room that they ignore is the 73 million people so >>> disgruntled at the failures of the government that they could vote for >>> Trump. This witch hunt only stiffens their resolve.>>>>===>
    Trump was very good at tapping into the fears and grievances of the disgruntled. So was Adolph Hitler. He also illuminated and amplified some very real issues - things like the porosity of our southern border. That said, he has always been a
    scoundrel and still is.>>Trump is just the raw politician without the handlers. >They all tap into our fears and feed us the pablum that makes us>forget they are full of shit.>>The hitler analogy is not totally off base but it isn't a hitler>problem, it
    is a despair problem. When this mess crashes down on us>we will end up with someone like that.>>Viral story of dubious provenance but a frightening look at reality.>>***************************>About the time our original thirteen states adopted their
    constitution in 1787, Alexander Tyler, a Scottish history professor at>the University of Edinburgh, had this to say about the fall of the>Athenian Republic some 2,000 years earlier:>>"A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist
    a permanent form of government.">>"A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters>discover they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public>treasury.">>"From that moment on, the majority always vote for the candidates who>
    promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result>that every democracy will finally collapse due to loose fiscal policy,>which is always followed by a dictatorship."Goodness, that would help explain the Democrats' desire to have anopen
    border with Mexico.

    We must educate Wayne and others to the fact that empowering the
    democratic party will destroy our democracy. Enlightened folks
    see that the process has already started. God help us
    all.
    --
    Vote the straight GOP ticket to save the USA and the world as we
    know it.


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  • From gfretwelll@aol.com@21:1/5 to justan on Sun Jan 1 10:14:10 2023
    On Sun, 1 Jan 2023 12:24:42 -0500 (EST), justan <me@here.com> wrote:

    gfretwelll@aol.com Wrote in message:r
    On Sat, 31 Dec 2022 01:55:14 -0500, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:>On Fri, 30 Dec 2022 12:46:41 -0800, Bill <califbill9998@gmail.com>>wrote:>>>You're not going to like it.>>>>https://january6th.house.gov/report-executive-summary>>Let me guess, it was all
    Trump's fault. >Nobody in the Cap Po or the Sargent at Arms office was to blame for>the fiasco at all. No need to guess that I'm a fucking piece of shit.

    That's obvious. You'd have to be a LOT smarter if you want for us
    to believe you are Greg.
    4 years at Klown Kollege in Kansas hasn"t served you well, loser.

    Well, you're a fucking idiot, so the bar is really low.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJVDRGUy2-8

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  • From John@21:1/5 to 3452471@gmail.com on Sun Jan 1 10:13:41 2023
    On Sun, 1 Jan 2023 09:09:09 -0800 (PST), "345...@gmail.com"
    <3452471@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Saturday, December 31, 2022 at 9:37:09 AM UTC-5, waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com wrote:
    On Saturday, December 31, 2022 at 1:55:44 AM UTC-5, gfre...@aol.com wrote: >> > On Fri, 30 Dec 2022 12:46:41 -0800, Bill <califb...@gmail.com>
    wrote:
    You're not going to like it.

    https://january6th.house.gov/report-executive-summary
    Let me guess, it was all Trump's fault.
    Nobody in the Cap Po or the Sargent at Arms office was to blame for
    the fiasco at all.
    ===

    If someone robs a bank, do you blame the robber, or the guard who was unsuccessful at stopping it?

    Nice non-sequitur, but let me fix that for you:
    Someone that you know is coming to rob you, has said they are coming, the people you have watching for such things tell you that they are coming
    with more manpower than you have at your bank, and yet you do nothing to protect your bank. That's not a robbery, it's a security failure.
    Who would a truly independent panel be looking at as a root cause of the security failure? Hint... it's not the robber.

    But I would expect no better from Pelosi and her comrades.

    Feel free to continue to be stupid!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJVDRGUy2-8

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  • From gfretwell@aol.com@21:1/5 to justan on Sun Jan 1 15:06:55 2023
    On Sun, 1 Jan 2023 12:24:42 -0500 (EST), justan <me@here.com> wrote:

    gfretwelll@aol.com Wrote in message:r
    On Sat, 31 Dec 2022 01:55:14 -0500, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:>On Fri, 30 Dec 2022 12:46:41 -0800, Bill <califbill9998@gmail.com>>wrote:>>>You're not going to like it.>>>>https://january6th.house.gov/report-executive-summary>>Let me guess, it was all
    Trump's fault. >Nobody in the Cap Po or the Sargent at Arms office was to blame for>the fiasco at all. No need to guess that I'm a fucking piece of shit.

    That's obvious. You'd have to be a LOT smarter if you want for us
    to believe you are Greg.
    4 years at Klown Kollege in Kansas hasn"t served you well, loser.

    I manage to filter all of the posts from the anonymous asshole. Why
    would anyone care what someone forging someone else's ID has to say?

    He doesn't even value his own brain farts enough to sign them.

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  • From Justin@21:1/5 to gfretwell@aol.com on Mon Jan 2 12:00:03 2023
    On Sun, 01 Jan 2023 15:06:55 -0500, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:

    On Sun, 1 Jan 2023 12:24:42 -0500 (EST), justan <me@here.com> wrote:

    gfretwelll@aol.com Wrote in message:r
    On Sat, 31 Dec 2022 01:55:14 -0500, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:>On Fri, 30 Dec 2022 12:46:41 -0800, Bill <califbill9998@gmail.com>>wrote:>>>You're not going to like it.>>>>https://january6th.house.gov/report-executive-summary>>Let me guess, it was all
    Trump's fault. >Nobody in the Cap Po or the Sargent at Arms office was to blame for>the fiasco at all. No need to guess that I'm a fucking piece of shit.

    That's obvious. You'd have to be a LOT smarter if you want for us
    to believe you are Greg.
    4 years at Klown Kollege in Kansas hasn"t served you well, loser.

    I manage to filter all of the posts from the anonymous asshole. Why
    would anyone care what someone forging someone else's ID has to say?

    He doesn't even value his own brain farts enough to sign them.

    Sort of like what you value? I'm betting I can get around your
    bullshit filters.

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  • From gfretwelll@aol.com@21:1/5 to gfretwell@aol.com on Mon Jan 2 12:03:12 2023
    On Sun, 01 Jan 2023 15:06:55 -0500, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:

    On Sun, 1 Jan 2023 12:24:42 -0500 (EST), justan <me@here.com> wrote:

    gfretwelll@aol.com Wrote in message:r
    On Sat, 31 Dec 2022 01:55:14 -0500, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:>On Fri, 30 Dec 2022 12:46:41 -0800, Bill <califbill9998@gmail.com>>wrote:>>>You're not going to like it.>>>>https://january6th.house.gov/report-executive-summary>>Let me guess, it was all
    Trump's fault. >Nobody in the Cap Po or the Sargent at Arms office was to blame for>the fiasco at all. No need to guess that I'm a fucking piece of shit.

    That's obvious. You'd have to be a LOT smarter if you want for us
    to believe you are Greg.
    4 years at Klown Kollege in Kansas hasn"t served you well, loser.

    I manage to filter all of the posts from the anonymous asshole. Why
    would anyone care what someone forging someone else's ID has to say?

    He doesn't even value his own brain farts enough to sign them.

    Did Judy fart on your face?

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  • From John H@21:1/5 to John on Tue Jan 3 07:40:16 2023
    On Sun, 01 Jan 2023 10:12:11 -0800, John <salmonbait@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sun, 01 Jan 2023 08:16:50 -0500, John H <jherring@cox.net> wrote:

    On Sun, 01 Jan 2023 03:45:07 -0500, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:

    On Sat, 31 Dec 2022 08:50:10 -0800 (PST), >>>"waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com" <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Saturday, December 31, 2022 at 10:45:40 AM UTC-5, gfre...@aol.com wrote: >>>>> On Sat, 31 Dec 2022 06:37:07 -0800 (PST),
    "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Saturday, December 31, 2022 at 1:55:44 AM UTC-5, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
    On Fri, 30 Dec 2022 12:46:41 -0800, Bill <califb...@gmail.com>
    wrote:
    You're not going to like it.

    https://january6th.house.gov/report-executive-summary
    Let me guess, it was all Trump's fault.
    Nobody in the Cap Po or the Sargent at Arms office was to blame for >>>>> >> the fiasco at all.

    ===

    If someone robs a bank, do you blame the robber, or the guard who was unsuccessful at stopping it?
    If I own the bank I am going to evaluate my security to see how an
    unarmed guy got into the vault.

    They really need to ask "if a couple dozen unarmed rabble rousers
    could talk a mob into invading the Capitol, virtually unopposed, what >>>>> could a team of well armed terrorists do"?
    This committee had one goal, find a charge that would prevent Trump
    from running again. They totally ignored the systemic problems that
    allowed this to happen in the first place. The Democrat leadership
    appeared to want this to be a shit show and it simply turned out worse >>>>> than they planned. (or maybe better than they could hope for)
    The elephant in the room that they ignore is the 73 million people so >>>>> disgruntled at the failures of the government that they could vote for >>>>> Trump. This witch hunt only stiffens their resolve.

    ===

    Trump was very good at tapping into the fears and grievances of the disgruntled. So was Adolph Hitler. He also illuminated and amplified some very real issues - things like the porosity of our southern border. That said, he has always been a
    scoundrel and still is.

    Trump is just the raw politician without the handlers.
    They all tap into our fears and feed us the pablum that makes us
    forget they are full of shit.

    The hitler analogy is not totally off base but it isn't a hitler
    problem, it is a despair problem. When this mess crashes down on us
    we will end up with someone like that.

    Viral story of dubious provenance but a frightening look at reality.

    ***************************
    About the time our original thirteen states adopted their new >>>constitution in 1787, Alexander Tyler, a Scottish history professor at >>>the University of Edinburgh, had this to say about the fall of the >>>Athenian Republic some 2,000 years earlier:

    "A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as
    a permanent form of government."

    "A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters >>>discover they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public >>>treasury."

    "From that moment on, the majority always vote for the candidates who >>>promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result
    that every democracy will finally collapse due to loose fiscal policy, >>>which is always followed by a dictatorship."

    Goodness, that would help explain the Democrats' desire to have an
    open border with Mexico.

    Goodness, I'm stupid.

    Yup. Finally nailed it.

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