• yosemite and diot government

    From Bill@21:1/5 to All on Thu Nov 11 16:28:50 2021
    Spent the few days in Yosemite.valley. They took out a lot of the
    parking, when they went to shuttles in the valley. Shuttles have not run
    in 2021. But still closed parking lots, and roads. We camped in the Upper Pines campground. 3 nights opened up. Campground guy said, almost all,reserved, and because of the weather a,few,cancellations. BS! Most of
    the campground was empty. Not that big a percentage are canceling.
    Valley was nice. Weather except for yesterday was nice. Rain all day. We
    did do a 2 mile+ round trip hike to Mirror Lake. Not much lake anymore. Thinking back when I was a 9-10 year old, the park was way more open. Much better visuals. The Indians pulled all the young pine trees and burned
    off the valley each fall when they left. They relied on acorns, so wanted
    oak trees and not pine trees growing. Now hard to see a lot of the cliffs from a lot of the area, because of the pine trees.

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  • From gfretwell@aol.com@21:1/5 to califbill9998remove8@gmail.com on Thu Nov 11 13:54:51 2021
    On Thu, 11 Nov 2021 16:28:50 -0000 (UTC), Bill
    <califbill9998remove8@gmail.com> wrote:

    Spent the few days in Yosemite.valley. They took out a lot of the
    parking, when they went to shuttles in the valley. Shuttles have not run
    in 2021. But still closed parking lots, and roads. We camped in the Upper >Pines campground. 3 nights opened up. Campground guy said, almost >all,reserved, and because of the weather a,few,cancellations. BS! Most of >the campground was empty. Not that big a percentage are canceling.
    Valley was nice. Weather except for yesterday was nice. Rain all day. We >did do a 2 mile+ round trip hike to Mirror Lake. Not much lake anymore. >Thinking back when I was a 9-10 year old, the park was way more open. Much >better visuals. The Indians pulled all the young pine trees and burned
    off the valley each fall when they left. They relied on acorns, so wanted >oak trees and not pine trees growing. Now hard to see a lot of the cliffs >from a lot of the area, because of the pine trees.


    Yosemite is one of those parks we loved to death. I don't care if I
    ever see it again.
    Same with most of Yellowstone (the parts that are easy to drive to).
    We hiked around the South East part of the park and it was nice,
    coming through a seldom used gate on the south side. We drove in on
    the North side, turned around and drove out. http://gfretwell.com/ftp/montana/Paradise%20Valley/Yellowstone%20gate.jpg
    I could go to Orlando if I just wanted to be stuck in traffic.

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  • From Bill@21:1/5 to gfretwell@aol.com on Fri Nov 12 03:23:10 2021
    <gfretwell@aol.com> wrote:
    On Thu, 11 Nov 2021 16:28:50 -0000 (UTC), Bill <califbill9998remove8@gmail.com> wrote:

    Spent the few days in Yosemite.valley. They took out a lot of the
    parking, when they went to shuttles in the valley. Shuttles have not run
    in 2021. But still closed parking lots, and roads. We camped in the Upper >> Pines campground. 3 nights opened up. Campground guy said, almost
    all,reserved, and because of the weather a,few,cancellations. BS! Most of >> the campground was empty. Not that big a percentage are canceling.
    Valley was nice. Weather except for yesterday was nice. Rain all day. We >> did do a 2 mile+ round trip hike to Mirror Lake. Not much lake anymore.
    Thinking back when I was a 9-10 year old, the park was way more open. Much >> better visuals. The Indians pulled all the young pine trees and burned
    off the valley each fall when they left. They relied on acorns, so wanted >> oak trees and not pine trees growing. Now hard to see a lot of the cliffs >> from a lot of the area, because of the pine trees.


    Yosemite is one of those parks we loved to death. I don't care if I
    ever see it again.
    Same with most of Yellowstone (the parts that are easy to drive to).
    We hiked around the South East part of the park and it was nice,
    coming through a seldom used gate on the south side. We drove in on
    the North side, turned around and drove out. http://gfretwell.com/ftp/montana/Paradise%20Valley/Yellowstone%20gate.jpg
    I could go to Orlando if I just wanted to be stuck in traffic.



    You have to pick your times. Spring and summer in Yosemite is bad. We had friends in from Houston a couple years ago. Spring time, and lots of
    runoff, so the falls and river were almost out of control. No parking,
    shuttle over crowed and shuttle could hardly move.

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  • From gfretwell@aol.com@21:1/5 to califbill9998remove8@gmail.com on Fri Nov 12 01:13:40 2021
    On Fri, 12 Nov 2021 03:23:10 -0000 (UTC), Bill
    <califbill9998remove8@gmail.com> wrote:

    <gfretwell@aol.com> wrote:
    On Thu, 11 Nov 2021 16:28:50 -0000 (UTC), Bill
    <califbill9998remove8@gmail.com> wrote:

    Spent the few days in Yosemite.valley. They took out a lot of the
    parking, when they went to shuttles in the valley. Shuttles have not run >>> in 2021. But still closed parking lots, and roads. We camped in the Upper >>> Pines campground. 3 nights opened up. Campground guy said, almost
    all,reserved, and because of the weather a,few,cancellations. BS! Most of >>> the campground was empty. Not that big a percentage are canceling.
    Valley was nice. Weather except for yesterday was nice. Rain all day. We >>> did do a 2 mile+ round trip hike to Mirror Lake. Not much lake anymore. >>> Thinking back when I was a 9-10 year old, the park was way more open. Much >>> better visuals. The Indians pulled all the young pine trees and burned >>> off the valley each fall when they left. They relied on acorns, so wanted >>> oak trees and not pine trees growing. Now hard to see a lot of the cliffs >>> from a lot of the area, because of the pine trees.


    Yosemite is one of those parks we loved to death. I don't care if I
    ever see it again.
    Same with most of Yellowstone (the parts that are easy to drive to).
    We hiked around the South East part of the park and it was nice,
    coming through a seldom used gate on the south side. We drove in on
    the North side, turned around and drove out.
    http://gfretwell.com/ftp/montana/Paradise%20Valley/Yellowstone%20gate.jpg
    I could go to Orlando if I just wanted to be stuck in traffic.



    You have to pick your times. Spring and summer in Yosemite is bad. We had >friends in from Houston a couple years ago. Spring time, and lots of
    runoff, so the falls and river were almost out of control. No parking, >shuttle over crowed and shuttle could hardly move.

    We were there in June and that big wonderful waterfall everyone talks
    about looked like a little boy pissing off a bridge. The bottom of
    that valley looked like there was construction on the freeway and they
    had an accident. If I knew how bad it would be I would have bypassed
    the whole mess. We were on our way up the state (Sequoia to Mammoth
    via Fresno) and thought that might be a nice side trip. It wasn't
    really in our plans.

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  • From Mr Robot@21:1/5 to gfretwell@aol.com on Tue Nov 16 15:40:38 2021
    On Fri, 12 Nov 2021 01:13:40 -0500, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:

    On Fri, 12 Nov 2021 03:23:10 -0000 (UTC), Bill ><califbill9998remove8@gmail.com> wrote:

    <gfretwell@aol.com> wrote:
    On Thu, 11 Nov 2021 16:28:50 -0000 (UTC), Bill
    <califbill9998remove8@gmail.com> wrote:

    Spent the few days in Yosemite.valley. They took out a lot of the
    parking, when they went to shuttles in the valley. Shuttles have not run >>>> in 2021. But still closed parking lots, and roads. We camped in the Upper
    Pines campground. 3 nights opened up. Campground guy said, almost
    all,reserved, and because of the weather a,few,cancellations. BS! Most of
    the campground was empty. Not that big a percentage are canceling.
    Valley was nice. Weather except for yesterday was nice. Rain all day. We
    did do a 2 mile+ round trip hike to Mirror Lake. Not much lake anymore. >>>> Thinking back when I was a 9-10 year old, the park was way more open. Much
    better visuals. The Indians pulled all the young pine trees and burned >>>> off the valley each fall when they left. They relied on acorns, so wanted >>>> oak trees and not pine trees growing. Now hard to see a lot of the cliffs
    from a lot of the area, because of the pine trees.


    Yosemite is one of those parks we loved to death. I don't care if I
    ever see it again.
    Same with most of Yellowstone (the parts that are easy to drive to).
    We hiked around the South East part of the park and it was nice,
    coming through a seldom used gate on the south side. We drove in on
    the North side, turned around and drove out.
    http://gfretwell.com/ftp/montana/Paradise%20Valley/Yellowstone%20gate.jpg >>> I could go to Orlando if I just wanted to be stuck in traffic.



    You have to pick your times. Spring and summer in Yosemite is bad. We had >>friends in from Houston a couple years ago. Spring time, and lots of >>runoff, so the falls and river were almost out of control. No parking, >>shuttle over crowed and shuttle could hardly move.

    We were there in June and that big wonderful waterfall everyone talks
    about looked like a little boy pissing off a bridge. The bottom of
    that valley looked like there was construction on the freeway and they
    had an accident. If I knew how bad it would be I would have bypassed
    the whole mess. We were on our way up the state (Sequoia to Mammoth
    via Fresno) and thought that might be a nice side trip. It wasn't
    really in our plans.

    Oh shut up pussy boy. What a fucking snowflake...

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