Don't let the door hit you on the way out.
--
Lets go Brandon....
On Wednesday, August 17, 2022 at 12:20:38 PM UTC-4, justan wrote:
Don't let the door hit you on the way out.
--
Lets go Brandon....
I was just about to post this:
"Liz Cheney is soundly beaten, so she makes a speech comparing herself
to Lincoln and hints at a run for POTUS in 2024? Wow. She's just a bit >delusional. Let us know how that works out for ya, Liz."
BYE, girl.
On Wed, 17 Aug 2022 09:27:21 -0700 (PDT), "345...@gmail.com" <3452471@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, August 17, 2022 at 12:20:38 PM UTC-4, justan wrote:
Don't let the door hit you on the way out.
--
Lets go Brandon....
I was just about to post this:
"Liz Cheney is soundly beaten, so she makes a speech comparing herself
to Lincoln and hints at a run for POTUS in 2024? Wow. She's just a bit
delusional. Let us know how that works out for ya, Liz."
BYE, girl.
CNN, MSNBC, Here I come.
On Wednesday, August 17, 2022 at 12:20:38 PM UTC-4, justan wrote:
Don't let the door hit you on the way out.I was just about to post this:
--
Lets go Brandon....
"Liz Cheney is soundly beaten, so she makes a speech comparing herself
to Lincoln and hints at a run for POTUS in 2024? Wow. She's just a bit delusional. Let us know how that works out for ya, Liz."
BYE, girl.
On Wednesday, August 17, 2022 at 12:27:23 PM UTC-4, 345...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wednesday, August 17, 2022 at 12:20:38 PM UTC-4, justan wrote:
Don't let the door hit you on the way out.I was just about to post this:
--
Lets go Brandon....
"Liz Cheney is soundly beaten, so she makes a speech comparing herself
to Lincoln and hints at a run for POTUS in 2024? Wow. She's just a bit delusional. Let us know how that works out for ya, Liz."
BYE, girl.===
She'll be back. And she is a conservative republican, and always has been. Trump on the other hand was once a democrat until he sensed greater opportunity among the gullible.
On Wednesday, August 17, 2022 at 12:27:23 PM UTC-4, 345...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wednesday, August 17, 2022 at 12:20:38 PM UTC-4, justan wrote:
Don't let the door hit you on the way out.I was just about to post this:
--
Lets go Brandon....
"Liz Cheney is soundly beaten, so she makes a speech comparing herself
to Lincoln and hints at a run for POTUS in 2024? Wow. She's just a bit
delusional. Let us know how that works out for ya, Liz."
BYE, girl.
===
She'll be back. And she is a conservative republican, and always has been. Trump on the other hand was once a democrat until he sensed greater opportunity among the gullible.
On Wednesday, August 17, 2022 at 1:12:37 PM UTC-4, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote:produced something from their work. The ones that feed and sustain those left and right coast limousine liberal folks. The ones that, if they cut you off, would leave you paddling that boat of yours around trying to feed yourself with the fish you hope
On Wednesday, August 17, 2022 at 12:27:23 PM UTC-4, 345...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wednesday, August 17, 2022 at 12:20:38 PM UTC-4, justan wrote:
Don't let the door hit you on the way out.I was just about to post this:
--
Lets go Brandon....
"Liz Cheney is soundly beaten, so she makes a speech comparing herself to Lincoln and hints at a run for POTUS in 2024? Wow. She's just a bit delusional. Let us know how that works out for ya, Liz."
BYE, girl.===
She'll be back. And she is a conservative republican, and always has been. Trump on the other hand was once a democrat until he sensed greater opportunity among the gullible.There are two things that are undeniable:
1. harry would love you now.
2. You typify the classic NE yankee transplant who thinks he is the only smart one in the room, and anyone that thinks differently and is from the southern or "flyover" states are just dumb and gullible. You know the ones. The ones that actually
Sit down, be quiet, and buy some white socks. :)
On Wednesday, August 17, 2022 at 12:27:23 PM UTC-4, 345...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wednesday, August 17, 2022 at 12:20:38 PM UTC-4, justan wrote:
Don't let the door hit you on the way out.I was just about to post this:
--
Lets go Brandon....
"Liz Cheney is soundly beaten, so she makes a speech comparing herself
to Lincoln and hints at a run for POTUS in 2024? Wow. She's just a bit
delusional. Let us know how that works out for ya, Liz."
BYE, girl.
===
She'll be back. And she is a conservative republican, and always has been. Trump on the other hand was once a democrat until he sensed greater opportunity among the gullible.
On Wed, 17 Aug 2022 09:27:21 -0700 (PDT), "345...@gmail.com" <3452471@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, August 17, 2022 at 12:20:38 PM UTC-4, justan wrote:
Don't let the door hit you on the way out.
--
Lets go Brandon....
I was just about to post this:
"Liz Cheney is soundly beaten, so she makes a speech comparing herself
to Lincoln and hints at a run for POTUS in 2024? Wow. She's just a bit
delusional. Let us know how that works out for ya, Liz."
BYE, girl.
CNN, MSNBC, Here I come.
On Wednesday, August 17, 2022 at 1:29:47 PM UTC-4, 345...@gmail.com wrote:produced something from their work. The ones that feed and sustain those left and right coast limousine liberal folks. The ones that, if they cut you off, would leave you paddling that boat of yours around trying to feed yourself with the fish you hope
On Wednesday, August 17, 2022 at 1:12:37 PM UTC-4, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote:
On Wednesday, August 17, 2022 at 12:27:23 PM UTC-4, 345...@gmail.com wrote: >>>> On Wednesday, August 17, 2022 at 12:20:38 PM UTC-4, justan wrote:There are two things that are undeniable:
===Don't let the door hit you on the way out.I was just about to post this:
--
Lets go Brandon....
"Liz Cheney is soundly beaten, so she makes a speech comparing herself >>>> to Lincoln and hints at a run for POTUS in 2024? Wow. She's just a bit >>>> delusional. Let us know how that works out for ya, Liz."
BYE, girl.
She'll be back. And she is a conservative republican, and always has been. Trump on the other hand was once a democrat until he sensed greater opportunity among the gullible.
1. harry would love you now.
2. You typify the classic NE yankee transplant who thinks he is the only smart one in the room, and anyone that thinks differently and is from the southern or "flyover" states are just dumb and gullible. You know the ones. The ones that actually
Sit down, be quiet, and buy some white socks. :)
===
One thing about being from the NE is that you acquire a certain amount of skill for identifying crooks, scammers and frauds. Trump checks all of those boxes and more.
On 8/17/2022 1:12 PM, waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com wrote:> On Wednesday, August 17, 2022 at 12:27:23 PM UTC-4, 345...@gmail.com wrote:>> On Wednesday, August 17, 2022 at 12:20:38 PM UTC-4, justan wrote:>>> Don't let the door hit you on the way out.>>for ya, Liz.">>>> BYE, girl.> > ===> > She'll be back. And she is a conservative republican, and always has been. Trump on the other hand was once a democrat until he sensed greater opportunity among the gullible.Aside from the Jan 6th thing (which has
-- >>> Lets go Brandon....>> I was just about to post this:>> "Liz Cheney is soundly beaten, so she makes a speech comparing herself>> to Lincoln and hints at a run for POTUS in 2024? Wow. She's just a bit>> delusional. Let us know how that works out
On 8/18/2022 2:03 AM, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote:produced something from their work. The ones that feed and sustain those left and right coast limousine liberal folks. The ones that, if they cut you off, would leave you paddling that boat of yours around trying to feed yourself with the fish you hope
On Wednesday, August 17, 2022 at 1:29:47 PM UTC-4, 345...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wednesday, August 17, 2022 at 1:12:37 PM UTC-4, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote:
On Wednesday, August 17, 2022 at 12:27:23 PM UTC-4, 345...@gmail.com wrote:There are two things that are undeniable:
On Wednesday, August 17, 2022 at 12:20:38 PM UTC-4, justan wrote:===
Don't let the door hit you on the way out.I was just about to post this:
--
Lets go Brandon....
"Liz Cheney is soundly beaten, so she makes a speech comparing herself >>>> to Lincoln and hints at a run for POTUS in 2024? Wow. She's just a bit >>>> delusional. Let us know how that works out for ya, Liz."
BYE, girl.
She'll be back. And she is a conservative republican, and always has been. Trump on the other hand was once a democrat until he sensed greater opportunity among the gullible.
1. harry would love you now.
2. You typify the classic NE yankee transplant who thinks he is the only smart one in the room, and anyone that thinks differently and is from the southern or "flyover" states are just dumb and gullible. You know the ones. The ones that actually
Sit down, be quiet, and buy some white socks. :)
===
One thing about being from the NE is that you acquire a certain amount of skill for identifying crooks, scammers and frauds. Trump checks all of those boxes and more.
Maybe as head of Trump enterprises before becoming POTUS but what
did he do that was "crooked" or scam or commit fraud as POTUS?
On Thursday, August 18, 2022 at 6:55:33 AM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:> On 8/18/2022 2:03 AM, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote: > > On Wednesday, August 17, 2022 at 1:29:47 PM UTC-4, 345...@gmail.com wrote: > >> On Wednesday, August 17, 2022 at 1:12:37 PMUTC-4, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote: > >>> On Wednesday, August 17, 2022 at 12:27:23 PM UTC-4, 345...@gmail.com wrote: > >>>> On Wednesday, August 17, 2022 at 12:20:38 PM UTC-4, justan wrote: > >>>>> Don't let the door hit you on the way out. > >>>>> --
how that works out for ya, Liz." > >>>> > >>>> BYE, girl. > >>> === > >>> > >>> She'll be back. And she is a conservative republican, and always has been. Trump on the other hand was once a democrat until he sensed greater opportunity among the gullible.Lets go Brandon.... > >>>> I was just about to post this: > >>>> "Liz Cheney is soundly beaten, so she makes a speech comparing herself > >>>> to Lincoln and hints at a run for POTUS in 2024? Wow. She's just a bit > >>>> delusional. Let us know
flyover" states are just dumb and gullible. You know the ones. The ones that actually produced something from their work. The ones that feed and sustain those left and right coast limousine liberal folks. The ones that, if they cut you off, would leaveThere are two things that are undeniable: > >> > >> 1. harry would love you now. > >> 2. You typify the classic NE yankee transplant who thinks he is the only smart one in the room, and anyone that thinks differently and is from the southern or "
On Thursday, August 18, 2022 at 6:55:33 AM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:produced something from their work. The ones that feed and sustain those left and right coast limousine liberal folks. The ones that, if they cut you off, would leave you paddling that boat of yours around trying to feed yourself with the fish you hope
On 8/18/2022 2:03 AM, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote:
On Wednesday, August 17, 2022 at 1:29:47 PM UTC-4, 345...@gmail.com wrote: >>>> On Wednesday, August 17, 2022 at 1:12:37 PM UTC-4, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote:
On Wednesday, August 17, 2022 at 12:27:23 PM UTC-4, 345...@gmail.com wrote:There are two things that are undeniable:
On Wednesday, August 17, 2022 at 12:20:38 PM UTC-4, justan wrote: >>>>>>> Don't let the door hit you on the way out.===
--I was just about to post this:
Lets go Brandon....
"Liz Cheney is soundly beaten, so she makes a speech comparing herself >>>>>> to Lincoln and hints at a run for POTUS in 2024? Wow. She's just a bit >>>>>> delusional. Let us know how that works out for ya, Liz."
BYE, girl.
She'll be back. And she is a conservative republican, and always has been. Trump on the other hand was once a democrat until he sensed greater opportunity among the gullible.
1. harry would love you now.
2. You typify the classic NE yankee transplant who thinks he is the only smart one in the room, and anyone that thinks differently and is from the southern or "flyover" states are just dumb and gullible. You know the ones. The ones that actually
his unfounded attacks on mail-in ballots and illegally registered voters. After his losing election in November, he began his attempt to cast aspersions on voting machines and developing a strategy of intimidating state election officials into
Sit down, be quiet, and buy some white socks. :)
===
One thing about being from the NE is that you acquire a certain amount of skill for identifying crooks, scammers and frauds. Trump checks all of those boxes and more.
Maybe as head of Trump enterprises before becoming POTUS but what
did he do that was "crooked" or scam or commit fraud as POTUS?
===
People have written books on this subject. I'd recommend you start with authors John Bolton, Michael Cohen and James Mattis.
His biggest scam as POTUS began well before January 6. During the summer of 2020, well before election day, Trump realized that he was behind in the polls and began laying the groundwork for how he would handle his defeat in November. He began with
Here are a few highlights taken from Wikipedia: (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Room_Where_It_Happened)Without denying the specific allegations, Pompeo later denounced Bolton as a "traitor" and described the book as containing "a number of lies, fully-spun half-truths, and outright falsehoods."[21]
China
Trump asked Chinese leader Xi Jinping to help him win re-election, offering to reduce U.S. tariffs in exchange "for some increases in Chinese farm-product purchases, to help with the crucial farm-state vote."[18][19]
Trump voiced approval for the Chinese government's building of Xinjiang re-education camps for the Muslim Uyghur population.[19]
Trump refused to publicly criticize China's human rights violations and refused to issue a statement marking the 1989 Tiananmen Square massacre, saying "that was 15 years ago."[20]
Trump did not want to get involved with the 2019–20 Hong Kong protests saying "We have human-rights problems too".[20]
Korea
South Korean president Moon Jae-in's ideas and positions regarding North Korea were "schizophrenic."[a]
During Trump's 2018 Singapore summit with Kim Jong-un, secretary of State Mike Pompeo passed Bolton a note characterizing Trump as "so full of shit" and also characterized Trump's diplomacy with North Korea as having "zero probability of success."
The 2018 North Korea–United States Singapore Summit was "South Korea's creation, related more to its 'unification' agenda than serious strategy on Kim's part or ours."[22]entities.[10][24]
Europe
Trump did not know whether or not Finland is a part of Russia.[11]
Bolton confirmed the central accusation of Trump's first impeachment that he withheld aid to Ukraine in an attempt to pressure the Ukrainian government into announcing an investigation into Democrats, Joe Biden and his son, Hunter.[23]
Trump was unaware that the United Kingdom is a nuclear power.[11]
Middle East
Trump told Turkish President Recep Tayyip ErdoÄŸan that he (Trump) would "take care" of Geoffrey Berman's investigation against Turkey's state-owned bank Halkbank accused of bank fraud charges and laundering up to $20 billion on behalf of Iranian
Trump defended Saudi Arabian Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman after the assassination of Jamal Khashoggi to distract from Ivanka Trump's email scandal.[25]was only based on his personal agenda and reelection.[29][30]
Trump gave Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu the green light to attack Iran.[26] In 2019, Netanyahu, Bolton and Secretary of State Mike Pompeo successfully sabotaged Trump's attempts to open diplomatic channels with Iran.[27][28]
Venezuela
Bolton makes evident Washington's confused and vacillating policy towards the government of Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro, criticizing Trump for acting so erratically in policies on Venezuela. Ultimately, Bolton suggests, Trump's strategy
Bolton tried to persuade Trump to endorse Juan Guaidó as soon as he declared himself president, but the president had doubts about Guaidó, whom he considered a "child" in front of the "rude" Nicolás Maduro. Likewise, Trump doubted that Madurofell, saying that he was' too smart and too hard'.[10][29] According to Bolton, Trump also suggested that Venezuela was part of the United States.[30]
Bolton claims in the book that Trump said it would be "legal" to invade Venezuela and that the South American country was "really part of the United States".[29] Bolton alleges Trump said it'd be 'cool' to invade Venezuela.[30]finance violations, tax fraud, and bank fraud. Cohen said he violated campaign-finance laws at the direction of Trump and "for the principal purpose of influencing" the 2016 presidential election.
Cohen: https://www.newsweek.com/michael-cohen-donald-trump-mar-lago-fbi-search-secret-documents-1734546
Trump employed Cohen until May 2018, a year after the special counsel investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 United States elections began. The investigation led Cohen to plead guilty on August 21, 2018, to eight counts including campaign
On 8/18/2022 12:09 PM, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote:produced something from their work. The ones that feed and sustain those left and right coast limousine liberal folks. The ones that, if they cut you off, would leave you paddling that boat of yours around trying to feed yourself with the fish you hope
On Thursday, August 18, 2022 at 6:55:33 AM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 8/18/2022 2:03 AM, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote:
On Wednesday, August 17, 2022 at 1:29:47 PM UTC-4, 345...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wednesday, August 17, 2022 at 1:12:37 PM UTC-4, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote:
On Wednesday, August 17, 2022 at 12:27:23 PM UTC-4, 345...@gmail.com wrote:There are two things that are undeniable:
On Wednesday, August 17, 2022 at 12:20:38 PM UTC-4, justan wrote: >>>>>>> Don't let the door hit you on the way out.===
--I was just about to post this:
Lets go Brandon....
"Liz Cheney is soundly beaten, so she makes a speech comparing herself
to Lincoln and hints at a run for POTUS in 2024? Wow. She's just a bit
delusional. Let us know how that works out for ya, Liz."
BYE, girl.
She'll be back. And she is a conservative republican, and always has been. Trump on the other hand was once a democrat until he sensed greater opportunity among the gullible.
1. harry would love you now.
2. You typify the classic NE yankee transplant who thinks he is the only smart one in the room, and anyone that thinks differently and is from the southern or "flyover" states are just dumb and gullible. You know the ones. The ones that actually
his unfounded attacks on mail-in ballots and illegally registered voters. After his losing election in November, he began his attempt to cast aspersions on voting machines and developing a strategy of intimidating state election officials into
Sit down, be quiet, and buy some white socks. :)
===
One thing about being from the NE is that you acquire a certain amount of skill for identifying crooks, scammers and frauds. Trump checks all of those boxes and more.
Maybe as head of Trump enterprises before becoming POTUS but what
did he do that was "crooked" or scam or commit fraud as POTUS?
===
People have written books on this subject. I'd recommend you start with authors John Bolton, Michael Cohen and James Mattis.
His biggest scam as POTUS began well before January 6. During the summer of 2020, well before election day, Trump realized that he was behind in the polls and began laying the groundwork for how he would handle his defeat in November. He began with
Without denying the specific allegations, Pompeo later denounced Bolton as a "traitor" and described the book as containing "a number of lies, fully-spun half-truths, and outright falsehoods."[21]Here are a few highlights taken from Wikipedia: (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Room_Where_It_Happened)
China
Trump asked Chinese leader Xi Jinping to help him win re-election, offering to reduce U.S. tariffs in exchange "for some increases in Chinese farm-product purchases, to help with the crucial farm-state vote."[18][19]
Trump voiced approval for the Chinese government's building of Xinjiang re-education camps for the Muslim Uyghur population.[19]
Trump refused to publicly criticize China's human rights violations and refused to issue a statement marking the 1989 Tiananmen Square massacre, saying "that was 15 years ago."[20]
Trump did not want to get involved with the 2019–20 Hong Kong protests saying "We have human-rights problems too".[20]
Korea
South Korean president Moon Jae-in's ideas and positions regarding North Korea were "schizophrenic."[a]
During Trump's 2018 Singapore summit with Kim Jong-un, secretary of State Mike Pompeo passed Bolton a note characterizing Trump as "so full of shit" and also characterized Trump's diplomacy with North Korea as having "zero probability of success."
entities.[10][24]The 2018 North Korea–United States Singapore Summit was "South Korea's creation, related more to its 'unification' agenda than serious strategy on Kim's part or ours."[22]
Europe
Trump did not know whether or not Finland is a part of Russia.[11]
Bolton confirmed the central accusation of Trump's first impeachment that he withheld aid to Ukraine in an attempt to pressure the Ukrainian government into announcing an investigation into Democrats, Joe Biden and his son, Hunter.[23]
Trump was unaware that the United Kingdom is a nuclear power.[11]
Middle East
Trump told Turkish President Recep Tayyip ErdoÄŸan that he (Trump) would "take care" of Geoffrey Berman's investigation against Turkey's state-owned bank Halkbank accused of bank fraud charges and laundering up to $20 billion on behalf of Iranian
only based on his personal agenda and reelection.[29][30]Trump defended Saudi Arabian Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman after the assassination of Jamal Khashoggi to distract from Ivanka Trump's email scandal.[25]
Trump gave Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu the green light to attack Iran.[26] In 2019, Netanyahu, Bolton and Secretary of State Mike Pompeo successfully sabotaged Trump's attempts to open diplomatic channels with Iran.[27][28]
Venezuela
Bolton makes evident Washington's confused and vacillating policy towards the government of Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro, criticizing Trump for acting so erratically in policies on Venezuela. Ultimately, Bolton suggests, Trump's strategy was
saying that he was' too smart and too hard'.[10][29] According to Bolton, Trump also suggested that Venezuela was part of the United States.[30]Bolton tried to persuade Trump to endorse Juan Guaidó as soon as he declared himself president, but the president had doubts about Guaidó, whom he considered a "child" in front of the "rude" Nicolás Maduro. Likewise, Trump doubted that Maduro fell,
campaign finance violations, tax fraud, and bank fraud. Cohen said he violated campaign-finance laws at the direction of Trump and "for the principal purpose of influencing" the 2016 presidential election.Bolton claims in the book that Trump said it would be "legal" to invade Venezuela and that the South American country was "really part of the United States".[29] Bolton alleges Trump said it'd be 'cool' to invade Venezuela.[30]
Cohen: https://www.newsweek.com/michael-cohen-donald-trump-mar-lago-fbi-search-secret-documents-1734546
Trump employed Cohen until May 2018, a year after the special counsel investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 United States elections began. The investigation led Cohen to plead guilty on August 21, 2018, to eight counts including
That's quite a list of accusations. The problem I have Wayne is that now-a-days we hear stories of his (and others) crimes or misdeeds just
about everyday and almost always another source will deny any of it is
true. So, who are you supposed to believe?
I have little faith in John Bolton. He has always struck me as being
of the mindset that only *his* views on anything deserve credit or consideration.
The other two authors you recommend (Cohen and Mattis) both have
a bone to pick with Trump. I've always respected Mattis as a
scholarly military man but he and Trump didn't see eye to eye
on much of anything and only one person can be president at a time.
For me, I have to simplify things because too many of the stories
seem to have contradictions associated with them.
"Russia, Russia Russia" lives on.
So, in my simple minded evaluation I look at how the USA did
overall under Trump. No new wars. Booming economy. Energy
independence. Plus, he was beginning to crack down on
China's stranglehold on the USA brought to us by decades
of kissing China's ass. Getting NATO nations to cough up
more of their share.
I don't think Trump is or was the most brilliant strategist
we've had as POTUS but many of his common sense policies appealed
to many Americans.
"waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com>PM UTC-4, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote: > >>> On Wednesday, August 17, 2022 at 12:27:23 PM UTC-4, 345...@gmail.com wrote: > >>>> On Wednesday, August 17, 2022 at 12:20:38 PM UTC-4, justan wrote: > >>>>> Don't let the door hit you on the way out. > >>>>>
Wrote in message:r
On Thursday, August 18, 2022 at 6:55:33 AM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:> On 8/18/2022 2:03 AM, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote: > > On Wednesday, August 17, 2022 at 1:29:47 PM UTC-4, 345...@gmail.com wrote: > >> On Wednesday, August 17, 2022 at 1:12:37
So, what exactly is your beef with Trump. Trump has stepped on a
few toes in his time. So what. Who cares. Some of the offended
wrote books and expose's. Do you really expect to see much truth
in their scribblings? Being from the NE you are probably familiar
with crooked politicians, especially New Yorkers. So why is it
Trump is the sole benefactor of your ire and scorn. We're all
friends here. We won't judge you.
--
On 8/17/2022 1:12 PM, waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com wrote:
On Wednesday, August 17, 2022 at 12:27:23 PM UTC-4, 345...@gmail.com wrote: >>> On Wednesday, August 17, 2022 at 12:20:38 PM UTC-4, justan wrote:
Don't let the door hit you on the way out.I was just about to post this:
--
Lets go Brandon....
"Liz Cheney is soundly beaten, so she makes a speech comparing herself
to Lincoln and hints at a run for POTUS in 2024? Wow. She's just a bit
delusional. Let us know how that works out for ya, Liz."
BYE, girl.
===
She'll be back. And she is a conservative republican, and always has been. Trump on the other hand was once a democrat until he sensed greater opportunity among the gullible.
Aside from the Jan 6th thing (which has yet to be judged) what exactly
did Trump do as POTUS that bothers you so much?
On Thursday, August 18, 2022 at 6:55:33 AM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:produced something from their work. The ones that feed and sustain those left and
On 8/18/2022 2:03 AM, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote:
On Wednesday, August 17, 2022 at 1:29:47 PM UTC-4, 345...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> On Wednesday, August 17, 2022 at 1:12:37 PM UTC-4, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote:
On Wednesday, August 17, 2022 at 12:27:23 PM UTC-4, 345...@gmail.com wrote:There are two things that are undeniable:
On Wednesday, August 17, 2022 at 12:20:38 PM UTC-4, justan wrote:===
Don't let the door hit you on the way out.I was just about to post this:
--
Lets go Brandon....
"Liz Cheney is soundly beaten, so she makes a speech comparing herself >> >>>> to Lincoln and hints at a run for POTUS in 2024? Wow. She's just a bit >> >>>> delusional. Let us know how that works out for ya, Liz."
BYE, girl.
She'll be back. And she is a conservative republican, and always has been. Trump on the other hand was once a democrat until he sensed greater opportunity among the gullible.
1. harry would love you now.
2. You typify the classic NE yankee transplant who thinks he is the only smart one in the room, and anyone that thinks differently and is from the southern or "flyover" states are just dumb and gullible. You know the ones. The ones that actually
his unfounded attacks on mail-in ballots and illegally registered voters. After
Sit down, be quiet, and buy some white socks. :)
===
One thing about being from the NE is that you acquire a certain amount of skill for identifying crooks, scammers and frauds. Trump checks all of those boxes and more.
Maybe as head of Trump enterprises before becoming POTUS but what
did he do that was "crooked" or scam or commit fraud as POTUS?
===
People have written books on this subject. I'd recommend you start with authors John Bolton, Michael Cohen and James Mattis.
His biggest scam as POTUS began well before January 6. During the summer of 2020, well before election day, Trump realized that he was behind in the polls and began laying the groundwork for how he would handle his defeat in November. He began with
Here are a few highlights taken from Wikipedia: (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Room_Where_It_Happened)Without denying the specific allegations, Pompeo later denounced Bolton as a "traitor" and described the book as containing "a number of lies, fully-spun half-truths, and outright falsehoods."[21]
China
Trump asked Chinese leader Xi Jinping to help him win re-election, offering to reduce U.S. tariffs in exchange "for some increases in Chinese farm-product purchases, to help with the crucial farm-state vote."[18][19]
Trump voiced approval for the Chinese government's building of Xinjiang re-education camps for the Muslim Uyghur population.[19]
Trump refused to publicly criticize China's human rights violations and refused to issue a statement marking the 1989 Tiananmen Square massacre, saying "that was 15 years ago."[20]
Trump did not want to get involved with the 2019–20 Hong Kong protests saying "We have human-rights problems too".[20]
Korea
South Korean president Moon Jae-in's ideas and positions regarding North Korea were "schizophrenic."[a]
During Trump's 2018 Singapore summit with Kim Jong-un, secretary of State Mike Pompeo passed Bolton a note characterizing Trump as "so full of shit" and also characterized Trump's diplomacy with North Korea as having "zero probability of success."
The 2018 North Korea–United States Singapore Summit was "South Korea's creation, related more to its 'unification' agenda than serious strategy on Kim's part or ours."[22]entities.[10][24]
Europe
Trump did not know whether or not Finland is a part of Russia.[11]
Bolton confirmed the central accusation of Trump's first impeachment that he withheld aid to Ukraine in an attempt to pressure the Ukrainian government into announcing an investigation into Democrats, Joe Biden and his son, Hunter.[23]
Trump was unaware that the United Kingdom is a nuclear power.[11]
Middle East
Trump told Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdo?an that he (Trump) would "take care" of Geoffrey Berman's investigation against Turkey's state-owned bank Halkbank accused of bank fraud charges and laundering up to $20 billion on behalf of Iranian
Trump defended Saudi Arabian Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman after the assassination of Jamal Khashoggi to distract from Ivanka Trump's email scandal.[25]only based on his personal agenda and reelection.[29][30]
Trump gave Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu the green light to attack Iran.[26] In 2019, Netanyahu, Bolton and Secretary of State Mike Pompeo successfully sabotaged Trump's attempts to open diplomatic channels with Iran.[27][28]
Venezuela
Bolton makes evident Washington's confused and vacillating policy towards the government of Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro, criticizing Trump for acting so erratically in policies on Venezuela. Ultimately, Bolton suggests, Trump's strategy was
Bolton tried to persuade Trump to endorse Juan Guaidó as soon as he declared himself president, but the president had doubts about Guaidó, whom he considered a "child" in front of the "rude" Nicolás Maduro. Likewise, Trump doubted that Madurofell, saying that he was' too smart and too hard'.[10][29] According to Bolton, Trump
Bolton claims in the book that Trump said it would be "legal" to invade Venezuela and that the South American country was "really part of the United States".[29] Bolton alleges Trump said it'd be 'cool' to invade Venezuela.[30]finance violations, tax fraud, and bank fraud. Cohen said he violated campaign-finance laws at the direction of Trump and "for the principal purpose of influencing" the 2016 presidential election.
Cohen: https://www.newsweek.com/michael-cohen-donald-trump-mar-lago-fbi-search-secret-documents-1734546
Trump employed Cohen until May 2018, a year after the special counsel investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 United States elections began. The investigation led Cohen to plead guilty on August 21, 2018, to eight counts including campaign
On 8/18/2022 1:12 PM, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote:PM UTC-4, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote: > >>> On Wednesday, August 17, 2022 at 12:27:23 PM UTC-4, 345...@gmail.com wrote: > >>>> On Wednesday, August 17, 2022 at 12:20:38 PM UTC-4, justan wrote: > >>>>> Don't let the door hit you on the way out. > >>>>>
On Thursday, August 18, 2022 at 1:01:39 PM UTC-4, justan wrote:
"waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com>
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On Thursday, August 18, 2022 at 6:55:33 AM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:> On 8/18/2022 2:03 AM, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote: > > On Wednesday, August 17, 2022 at 1:29:47 PM UTC-4, 345...@gmail.com wrote: > >> On Wednesday, August 17, 2022 at 1:12:37
said before, that is at the bedrock of our democracy and constitution. Trump has no respect for either, and his attempts to build a personalty cult of loyal followers is an ongoing threat to democracy. That is not an idle concern - it has happened
So, what exactly is your beef with Trump. Trump has stepped on a
few toes in his time. So what. Who cares. Some of the offended
wrote books and expose's. Do you really expect to see much truth
in their scribblings? Being from the NE you are probably familiar
with crooked politicians, especially New Yorkers. So why is it
Trump is the sole benefactor of your ire and scorn. We're all
friends here. We won't judge you.
--
===
That's an easy question to answer. Of all the crooked politicians, and I agree that there have been many, Trump is the only one who schemed and plotted to overthrow the peaceful and lawful transfer of power after a failed election attempt. As I've
In the eyes of conventional politicians ... both Republicans and
Democrats ... Trump pissed them *all* off because he actually tried
to drain the swamp. Mere mortals subject to the ways of Wash DC
loved it.
Other than the true Trumpsters he really doesn't have many
friends or ally's left. They are going to get him one way or
another because they don't want him near the White House again.
He should accept that and go back to playing golf and building stuff.
--
Another thing that is not widely understood is that Trump's so called financial success is actually a house of cards built on the use and miss-use of other people's money. That strategy is nearing the end of the road
On 8/18/2022 3:28 PM, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote:37 PM UTC-4, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote: > >>> On Wednesday, August 17, 2022 at 12:27:23 PM UTC-4, 345...@gmail.com wrote: > >>>> On Wednesday, August 17, 2022 at 12:20:38 PM UTC-4, justan wrote: > >>>>> Don't let the door hit you on the way out. > >>
On Thursday, August 18, 2022 at 1:59:52 PM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 8/18/2022 1:12 PM, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote:
On Thursday, August 18, 2022 at 1:01:39 PM UTC-4, justan wrote:
"waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com>
Wrote in message:r
On Thursday, August 18, 2022 at 6:55:33 AM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:> On 8/18/2022 2:03 AM, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote: > > On Wednesday, August 17, 2022 at 1:29:47 PM UTC-4, 345...@gmail.com wrote: > >> On Wednesday, August 17, 2022 at 1:12:
know how that works out for ya, Liz." > >>>> > >>>> BYE, girl. > >>> === > >>> > >>> She'll be back. And she is a conservative republican, and always has been. Trump on the other hand was once a democrat until he sensed greater opportunity among the-- > >>>>> Lets go Brandon.... > >>>> I was just about to post this: > >>>> "Liz Cheney is soundly beaten, so she makes a speech comparing herself > >>>> to Lincoln and hints at a run for POTUS in 2024? Wow. She's just a bit > >>>> delusional. Let us
said before, that is at the bedrock of our democracy and constitution. Trump has no respect for either, and his attempts to build a personalty cult of loyal followers is an ongoing threat to democracy. That is not an idle concern - it has happened
So, what exactly is your beef with Trump. Trump has stepped on a
few toes in his time. So what. Who cares. Some of the offended
wrote books and expose's. Do you really expect to see much truth
in their scribblings? Being from the NE you are probably familiar
with crooked politicians, especially New Yorkers. So why is it
Trump is the sole benefactor of your ire and scorn. We're all
friends here. We won't judge you.
--
===
That's an easy question to answer. Of all the crooked politicians, and I agree that there have been many, Trump is the only one who schemed and plotted to overthrow the peaceful and lawful transfer of power after a failed election attempt. As I've
structure and tried to tear it down. I think it is unlikely that he will ever get near the White House again but will continue to do a lot of damage to our political system through his grass roots efforts as a rabble rouser. That in turn has lead toIn the eyes of conventional politicians ... both Republicans and
Democrats ... Trump pissed them *all* off because he actually tried
to drain the swamp. Mere mortals subject to the ways of Wash DC
loved it.
Other than the true Trumpsters he really doesn't have many
friends or ally's left. They are going to get him one way or
another because they don't want him near the White House again.
He should accept that and go back to playing golf and building stuff.
--
===
I agree with you on most of that. In my opinion, most of what Trump viewed as "The Swamp," are actually the checks and balances that were intentionally built into the federal government at its inception. Trump has no understanding or respect for that
are no major financial institutions in this country that will still lend money to him or his projects because of his past, well deserved, reputation for stiffing creditors. He was increasingly relying on eastern European banks and Russian oligarchs forAnother thing that is not widely understood is that Trump's so called financial success is actually a house of cards built on the use and miss-use of other people's money. That strategy is nearing the end of the road however and Trump knew it. There
Comments on each of your paragraphs:
Paragraph one:
My opinion of what defines the "Swamp" is very different than yours.
To me, the Swamp is the inner circle of Washington elites who call themselves "public servants" but work hard to protect their own
interests financially and in maintaining their electability inorder
to further their personal gains and objectives. This is a pseudo
"ruling class" who's mantra is "more for me but not for thee".
Not all are guilty but those who are genuine rarely last long because
they lose their party's support for not "cooperating". Holding an
office for 30 or 40 years is not good for the country.
Paragraph two:
Using "other people's money" to finance a business is the American way.
The concept is taught in college business courses along with marketing, distribution and finance. Ways to "raise funds" are as common a topic
as how to market your products or services. Very few successful
businesses are entirely self-funded. I have always felt good about
the way my small business was able to grow and employ more people
over the years without ever having any kind of outside financing.
I learned in a previous employment what can happen when banks and/or investment firms gain control of a business and I vowed never to
do that when I started mine. All growth was organic based on
profits. I realize not all business can do this due to the nature
of their product or services but it *is* possible.
--
On Friday, August 19, 2022 at 6:54:31 AM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 8/18/2022 3:28 PM, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote:
On Thursday, August 18, 2022 at 1:59:52 PM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:Comments on each of your paragraphs:
On 8/18/2022 1:12 PM, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote:
On Thursday, August 18, 2022 at 1:01:39 PM UTC-4, justan wrote:In the eyes of conventional politicians ... both Republicans and
"waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com>
Wrote in message:r
On Thursday, August 18, 2022 at 6:55:33 AM UTC-4, Mr. LudditeSo, what exactly is your beef with Trump. Trump has stepped on a
wrote:> On 8/18/2022 2:03 AM, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote: > > >>>>>>> On Wednesday, August 17, 2022 at 1:29:47 PM UTC-4, 345...@gmail.com >>>>>>> wrote: > >> On Wednesday, August 17, 2022 at 1:12:37 PM UTC-4,
waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote: > >>> On Wednesday, August 17, 2022 >>>>>>> at 12:27:23 PM UTC-4, 345...@gmail.com wrote: > >>>> On Wednesday, >>>>>>> August 17, 2022 at 12:20:38 PM UTC-4, justan wrote: > >>>>> Don't >>>>>>> let the door hit you on the way out. > >>>>> -- > >>>>> Lets go
Brandon.... > >>>> I was just about to post this: > >>>> "Liz
Cheney is soundly beaten, so she makes a speech comparing herself > >>>>>>> >>>> to Lincoln and hints at a run for POTUS in 2024? Wow. She's >>>>>>>>>>> just a bit > >>>> delusional. Let us know how that works out >>>>>>>>>>> for ya, Liz." > >>>> > >>>> BYE, girl. > >>> === > >>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>> She'll be back. And she is a conservative republican, and >>>>>>>>>>> always has been. Trump on the other hand was once a democrat >>>>>>>>>>> until he sensed greater opportunity among the gullible. > >> >>>>>>>>>>> There are two things that are undeniable: > >> > >> 1. harry >>>>>>>>>>> would love you now. > >> 2. You typify the classic NE yankee transplant who
thinks he is the only smart one in the room, and anyone that >>>>>>>>>>> thinks differently and is from the southern or "flyover" states >>>>>>>>>>> are just dumb and gullible. You know the ones. The ones that >>>>>>>>>>> actually produced something from their work. The ones that feed >>>>>>>>>>> and sustain those left and right coast limousine liberal folks. >>>>>>>>>>> The ones that, if they cut you off, would leave you paddling >>>>>>>>>>> that boat of yours around trying to feed yourself with the fish you hope to
catch. > >> > >> Sit down, be quiet, and buy some white socks. >>>>>>>>>>> :) > > > > === > > > > > > One thing about being from the NE is >>>>>>>>>>> that you acquire a certain amount of skill for identifying >>>>>>>>>>> crooks, scammers and frauds. Trump checks all of those boxes >>>>>>>>>>> and more.> Maybe as head of Trump enterprises before becoming >>>>>>>>>>> POTUS but what > did he do that was "crooked" or scam or commit fraud as
POTUS?===People have written books on this subject. I'd
recommend you start with authors John Bolton, Michael Cohen and >>>>>>>>>>> James Mattis.His biggest scam as POTUS began well before >>>>>>>>>>> January 6. During the summer of 2020, well before election day, >>>>>>>>>>> Trump realized that he was behind in the polls and began laying >>>>>>>>>>> the groundwork for how he would handle his defeat in November. >>>>>>>>>>> He began with his unfounded attacks on mail-in ballots and >>>>>>>>>>> illegally registered voters. After his losing election in >>>>>>>>>>> November, he began his attempt to cast aspersions on voting machines and
developing a strategy of intimidating state election officials >>>>>>>>>>> into overturning ballot results. This was followed with another >>>>>>>>>>> scam attempt of developing alternate slates of fake electors >>>>>>>>>>> with the goal of co-opting the electoral college
certification.Here are a few highlights taken from Wikipedia: >>>>>>>>>>> (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Room_Where_It_Happened)China Trump asked
Chinese leader Xi Jinping to help him win re-election, offering >>>>>>>>>>> to reduce U.S. tariffs in exchange "for some increases in >>>>>>>>>>> Chinese farm-product purchases, to help with the crucial farm-state >>>>>>>>>>> vote."[18][19] Trump voiced approval for the Chinese
government's building of Xinjiang re-education camps for the Muslim Uyghur
population.[19] Trump refused to publicly criticize China's human rights
violations and refused to issue a statement marking the 1989 >>>>>>>>>>> Tiananmen Square massacre, saying "that was 15 years ago."[20] >>>>>>>>>>> Trump did not want to get involved with the 201920 Hong Kong >>>>>>>>>>> protests saying "We have human-rights problems too".[20]Korea South Korean
president Moon Jae-in's ideas and positions regarding North Korea were
"schizophrenic."[a] During Trump's 2018 Singapore summit with Kim Jong-un,
secretary of State Mike Pompeo passed Bolton a note
characterizing Trump as "so full of shit" and also characterized Trump's
diplomacy with North Korea as having "zero probability of success." Without
denying the specific allegations, Pompeo later denounced Bolton >>>>>>>>>>> as a "traitor" and described the book as containing "a number >>>>>>>>>>> of lies, fully-spun half-truths, and outright falsehoods."[21] >>>>>>>>>>> The 2018 North KoreaUnited States Singapore Summit was "South >>>>>>>>>>> Korea's creation, related more to its 'unification' agenda than >>>>>>>>>>> serious strategy on Kim's part or ours."[22]Europe Trump did >>>>>>>>>>> not know whether or not Finland is a part of Russia.[11] Bolton >>>>>>>>>>> confirmed the central accusation of Trump's first impeachment >>>>>>>>>>> that he withheld aid to Ukraine in an attempt to pressure the Ukrainian
government into announcing an investigation into Democrats, Joe >>>>>>>>>>> Biden and his son, Hunter.[23] Trump was unaware that the >>>>>>>>>>> United Kingdom is a nuclear power.[11]Middle East Trump told >>>>>>>>>>> Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdo?an that he (Trump) would "take care" of
Geoffrey Berman's investigation against Turkey's state-owned bank Halkbank
accused of bank fraud charges and laundering up to $20 billion on behalf of
Iranian entities.[10][24] Trump defended Saudi Arabian Crown >>>>>>>>>>> Prince Mohammed bin Salman after the assassination of Jamal >>>>>>>>>>> Khashoggi to distract from Ivanka Trump's email scandal.[25] >>>>>>>>>>> Trump gave Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu the green >>>>>>>>>>> light to attack Iran.[26] In 2019, Netanyahu, Bolton and >>>>>>>>>>> Secretary of State Mike Pompeo successfully sabotaged Trump's >>>>>>>>>>> attempts to open diplomatic channels with
Iran.[27][28]Venezuela Bolton makes evident Washington's >>>>>>>>>>> confused and vacillating policy towards the government of >>>>>>>>>>> Venezuelan President Nicol?s Maduro, criticizing Trump for >>>>>>>>>>> acting so erratically in policies on Venezuela. Ultimately, >>>>>>>>>>> Bolton suggests, Trump's strategy was only based on his personal agenda and
reelection.[29][30] Bolton tried to persuade Trump to endorse >>>>>>>>>>> Juan Guaid? as soon as he declared himself president, but the president had
doubts about Guaid?, whom he considered a "child" in front of >>>>>>>>>>> the "rude" Nicol?s Maduro. Likewise, Trump doubted that Maduro >>>>>>>>>>> fell, saying that he was' too smart and too hard'.[10][29] >>>>>>>>>>> According to Bolton, Trump also suggested that Venezuela was >>>>>>>>>>> part of the United States.[30] Bolton claims in the book that >>>>>>>>>>> Trump said it would be "legal" to invade Venezuela and that the >>>>>>>>>>> South American country was "really part of the United
States".[29] Bolton alleges Trump said it'd be 'cool' to invade >>>>>>>>>>> Venezuela.[30]Cohen:
https://www.newsweek.com/michael-cohen-donald-trump-mar-lago-fbi-search-secret-documents-1734546Trump
employed Cohen until May 2018, a year after the special counsel >>>>>>>>>>> investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 United States elections
began. The investigation led Cohen to plead guilty on August >>>>>>>>>>> 21, 2018, to eight counts including campaign finance
violations, tax fraud, and bank fraud. Cohen said he violated >>>>>>>>>>> campaign-finance laws at the direction of Trump and "for the >>>>>>>>>>> principal purpose of influencing" the 2016 presidential election. >>>>>>
few toes in his time. So what. Who cares. Some of the offended
wrote books and expose's. Do you really expect to see much truth
in their scribblings? Being from the NE you are probably familiar
with crooked politicians, especially New Yorkers. So why is it
Trump is the sole benefactor of your ire and scorn. We're all
friends here. We won't judge you.
--
===
That's an easy question to answer. Of all the crooked politicians,
and I agree that there have been many, Trump is the only one who
schemed and plotted to overthrow the peaceful and lawful transfer of >>>>> power after a failed election attempt. As I've said before, that is
at the bedrock of our democracy and constitution. Trump has no
respect for either, and his attempts to build a personalty cult of
loyal followers is an ongoing threat to democracy. That is not an
idle concern - it has happened elsewhere too many times.
Democrats ... Trump pissed them *all* off because he actually tried
to drain the swamp. Mere mortals subject to the ways of Wash DC
loved it.
Other than the true Trumpsters he really doesn't have many
friends or ally's left. They are going to get him one way or
another because they don't want him near the White House again.
He should accept that and go back to playing golf and building stuff.
--
===
I agree with you on most of that. In my opinion, most of what Trump
viewed as "The Swamp," are actually the checks and balances that were
intentionally built into the federal government at its inception. Trump
has no understanding or respect for that structure and tried to tear it
down. I think it is unlikely that he will ever get near the White House
again but will continue to do a lot of damage to our political system
through his grass roots efforts as a rabble rouser. That in turn has
lead to widespread belief in half baked conspiracy theories and an
overall disrespect for governmental institutions. I offer up the recent
attacks on the FBI as an example.
Another thing that is not widely understood is that Trump's so called
financial success is actually a house of cards built on the use and
miss-use of other people's money. That strategy is nearing the end of
the road however and Trump knew it. There are no major financial
institutions in this country that will still lend money to him or his
projects because of his past, well deserved, reputation for stiffing
creditors. He was increasingly relying on eastern European banks and
Russian oligarchs for project financing which at least partially
explains his coziness with Putin and disparagement of NATO. The recent
arrest and conviction of his Chief Financial Officer may spell the end
for his business empire. He will claim that it was a politically
motivated prosecution even though the facts are very clear and his CFO
plead guilty today. Of course he will still maintain his multi-million
dollar fund raising campaigns based on the pretext of fighting his
election loss. That will hopefully collapse also before he incites another insurrection.
Paragraph one:
My opinion of what defines the "Swamp" is very different than yours.
To me, the Swamp is the inner circle of Washington elites who call
themselves "public servants" but work hard to protect their own
interests financially and in maintaining their electability inorder
to further their personal gains and objectives. This is a pseudo
"ruling class" who's mantra is "more for me but not for thee".
Not all are guilty but those who are genuine rarely last long because
they lose their party's support for not "cooperating". Holding an
office for 30 or 40 years is not good for the country.
Paragraph two:
Using "other people's money" to finance a business is the American way.
The concept is taught in college business courses along with marketing,
distribution and finance. Ways to "raise funds" are as common a topic
as how to market your products or services. Very few successful
businesses are entirely self-funded. I have always felt good about
the way my small business was able to grow and employ more people
over the years without ever having any kind of outside financing.
I learned in a previous employment what can happen when banks and/or
investment firms gain control of a business and I vowed never to
do that when I started mine. All growth was organic based on
profits. I realize not all business can do this due to the nature
of their product or services but it *is* possible.
--
==
Points taken and well stated. With regard to paragraph 2, I am well
aware of how corporations are financed. The problem arises when there is
no good faith effort to stay current with the terms of the borrowing agreement, or where the valuations of assets are misrepresented or
obscured. Then it becomes a shell game with constant litigation to keep things afloat.
waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote:> On Friday, August 19, 2022 at 6:54:31 AM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:>> On 8/18/2022 3:28 PM, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote: >>> On Thursday, August 18, 2022 at 1:59:52 PM UTC-4, Mr.Luddite wrote: >>>> On 8/18/2022 1:12 PM, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote: >>>>> On Thursday, August 18, 2022 at 1:01:39 PM UTC-4, justan wrote: >>>>>> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> >>>>>> Wrote in message:r >>>>>>> On Thursday, August
specific allegations, Pompeo later denounced Bolton>>>>>>>>>>> asprotests saying "We have human-rights problems too".[20]Korea South Korean>>>>>>>>>>> president Moon Jae-in's ideas and positions regarding North Korea were>>>>>>>>>>> "schizophrenic."[a] During Trump's 2018 Singapore summit with Kim Jong-un,>>>>>>>secretary of State Mike Pompeo passed Bolton a note>>>>>>>>>>> characterizing Trump as "so full of shit" and also characterized Trump's>>>>>>>>>>> diplomacy with North Korea as having "zero probability of success." Without>>>>>>>>>>> denying the
Bill <califbill9...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r55:33 AM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite>>>>>>> wrote:> On 8/18/2022 2:03 AM, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote: > >>>>>>>> On Wednesday, August 17, 2022 at 1:29:47 PM UTC-4, 345...@gmail.com>>>>>>> wrote: > >> On Wednesday, August 17, 2022 at 1:12:37 PM UTC-4,>>>>>>>
waynebatr...@hotmail.com <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:> On Friday, August 19, 2022 at 6:54:31 AM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:>> On 8/18/2022 3:28 PM, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote: >>> On Thursday, August 18, 2022 at 1:59:52 PM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 8/18/2022 1:12 PM, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote: >>>>> On Thursday, August 18, 2022 at 1:01:39 PM UTC-4, justan wrote: >>>>>> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> >>>>>> Wrote in message:r >>>>>>> On Thursday, August 18, 2022 at 6:
hand was once a democrat>>>>>>>>>>> until he sensed greater opportunity among the gullible. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> There are two things that are undeniable: > >> > >> 1. harry>>>>>>>>>>> would love you now. > >> 2. You typify the classic NE yankee transplantjust a bit > >>>> delusional. Let us know how that works out>>>>>>>>>>> for ya, Liz." > >>>> > >>>> BYE, girl. > >>> === > >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> She'll be back. And she is a conservative republican, and>>>>>>>>>>> always has been. Trump on the other
something from their work. The ones that feed>>>>>>>>>>> and sustain those left and right coast limousine liberal folks.>>>>>>>>>>> The ones that, if they cut you off, would leave you paddling>>>>>>>>>>> that boat of yours around trying to feed yourselfthinks he is the only smart one in the room, and anyone that>>>>>>>>>>> thinks differently and is from the southern or "flyover" states>>>>>>>>>>> are just dumb and gullible. You know the ones. The ones that>>>>>>>>>>> actually produced
voters. After his losing election in>>>>>>>>>>> November, he began his attempt to cast aspersions on voting machines and>>>>>>>>>>> developing a strategy of intimidating state election officials>>>>>>>>>>> into overturning ballot results. This wasTrump realized that he was behind in the polls and began laying>>>>>>>>>>> the groundwork for how he would handle his defeat in November.>>>>>>>>>>> He began with his unfounded attacks on mail-in ballots and>>>>>>>>>>> illegally registered
successfully sabotaged Trump's>>>>>>>>>>> attempts to open diplomatic channels with>>>>>>>>>>> Iran.[27][28]Venezuela Bolton makes evident Washington's>>>>>>>>>>> confused and vacillating policy towards the government of>>>>>>>>>>> Venezuelan PresidentKhashoggi to distract from Ivanka Trump's email scandal.[25]>>>>>>>>>>> Trump gave Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu the green>>>>>>>>>>> light to attack Iran.[26] In 2019, Netanyahu, Bolton and>>>>>>>>>>> Secretary of State Mike Pompeo
to invade Venezuela and that the>>>>>>>>>>> South American country was "really part of the United>>>>>>>>>>> States".[29] Bolton alleges Trump said it'd be 'cool' to invade>>>>>>>>>>> Venezuela.[30]Cohen:>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.newsweek.com/michael-cohen-fell, saying that he was' too smart and too hard'.[10][29]>>>>>>>>>>> According to Bolton, Trump also suggested that Venezuela was>>>>>>>>>>> part of the United States.[30] Bolton claims in the book that>>>>>>>>>>> Trump said it would be "legal"
expose's. Do you really expect to see much truth >>>>>> in their scribblings? Being from the NE you are probably familiar >>>>>> with crooked politicians, especially New Yorkers. So why is it >>>>>> Trump is the sole benefactor of your ire and scorn. We'principal purpose of influencing" the 2016 presidential election. >>>>>> >>>>>> So, what exactly is your beef with Trump. Trump has stepped on a >>>>>> few toes in his time. So what. Who cares. Some of the offended >>>>>> wrote books and
maintaining their electability inorder >> to further their personal gains and objectives. This is a pseudo >> "ruling class" who's mantra is "more for me but not for thee". >> Not all are guilty but those who are genuine rarely last long because >> theyMy opinion of what defines the "Swamp" is very different than yours. >> To me, the Swamp is the inner circle of Washington elites who call >> themselves "public servants" but work hard to protect their own >> interests financially and in
Whether or not he knows it a rabid democrat has put a bug in
Wayne's ear.
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