• DJT Opinions

    From wayne.beardsley@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jul 22 18:37:47 2022
    I'm aware that some of you still hold Trump in high esteem even after some of the recent disclosures. Here's what some others think, people who were close to him and had a ringside seat:

    A f**cking moron.” Rex Tillerson

    ”A jacka**” Lindsay Graham "I think he's a kook. I think he's crazy. I think he's unfit for office." Lindsay Graham "Dishonesty is Trump's hallmark....he is very, very not smart.” Mitt Romney

    “An idiot, unhinged." John Kelly

    "An idiot and a dope." H. R. McMaster

    "An idiot surrounded by clowns." Gary Cohn

    "A racist, misogynist and bigot." Omarosa Newman

    "He's like a 11 year-old child." Steve Bannon

    "Has the understanding of a 5th or 6th grader."Jim Mattis

    “An empty vessel when it comes to the constitution and the rule of law." Scott Pruitt

    "An idiot." Reince Priebus

    "A complete idiot." Steven Mnuchin

    “A F……. liar." John Dowd

    “Eventually he turns on everyone.” The Mooch

    ”Donald Trump ... will slash and burn and trample anything and anyone he perceives as being in his way or an easy scapegoat.” Susan Collins

    "The dumbest godd@mn student I ever had." William Kelley

    (Wharton professor)

    "One of us." David Duke.

    Trump is not fit to be commander in chief. Sec Esper

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  • From True North@21:1/5 to waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com on Sat Jul 23 06:04:43 2022
    On Friday, 22 July 2022 at 22:37:49 UTC-3, waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com wrote:
    I'm aware that some of you still hold Trump in high esteem even after some of the recent disclosures. Here's what some others think, people who were close to him and had a ringside seat:

    A f**cking moron.” Rex Tillerson

    ”A jacka**” Lindsay Graham "I think he's a kook. I think he's crazy. I think he's unfit for office." Lindsay Graham "Dishonesty is Trump's hallmark....he is very, very not smart.” Mitt Romney

    “An idiot, unhinged." John Kelly

    "An idiot and a dope." H. R. McMaster

    "An idiot surrounded by clowns." Gary Cohn

    "A racist, misogynist and bigot." Omarosa Newman

    "He's like a 11 year-old child." Steve Bannon

    "Has the understanding of a 5th or 6th grader."Jim Mattis

    “An empty vessel when it comes to the constitution and the rule of law." Scott Pruitt

    "An idiot." Reince Priebus

    "A complete idiot." Steven Mnuchin

    “A F……. liar." John Dowd

    “Eventually he turns on everyone.” The Mooch

    ”Donald Trump ... will slash and burn and trample anything and anyone he perceives as being in his way or an easy scapegoat.” Susan Collins

    "The dumbest godd@mn student I ever had." William Kelley

    (Wharton professor)

    "One of us." David Duke.

    Trump is not fit to be commander in chief. Sec Esper


    Wow!
    Sounds like The Johns' kind of boy.
    A dream candidate for Johnnys' 'bowl of turds' gang.

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  • From John H@21:1/5 to waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com on Sat Jul 23 12:57:58 2022
    On Fri, 22 Jul 2022 18:37:47 -0700 (PDT),
    "waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com" <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote:

    I'm aware that some of you still hold Trump in high esteem even after some of the recent disclosures. Here's what some others think, people who were close to him and had a ringside seat:

    A f**cking moron. Rex Tillerson

    A jacka** Lindsay Graham "I think he's a kook. I think he's crazy. I think he's unfit for office." Lindsay Graham "Dishonesty is Trump's hallmark....he is very, very not smart. Mitt Romney

    An idiot, unhinged." John Kelly

    "An idiot and a dope." H. R. McMaster

    "An idiot surrounded by clowns." Gary Cohn

    "A racist, misogynist and bigot." Omarosa Newman

    "He's like a 11 year-old child." Steve Bannon

    "Has the understanding of a 5th or 6th grader."Jim Mattis

    An empty vessel when it comes to the constitution and the rule of law." Scott Pruitt

    "An idiot." Reince Priebus

    "A complete idiot." Steven Mnuchin

    A F. liar." John Dowd

    Eventually he turns on everyone. The Mooch

    Donald Trump ... will slash and burn and trample anything and anyone he perceives as being in his way or an easy scapegoat. Susan Collins

    "The dumbest godd@mn student I ever had." William Kelley

    (Wharton professor)

    "One of us." David Duke.

    Trump is not fit to be commander in chief. Sec Esper

    But then again...

    https://nypost.com/2022/07/18/biden-economic-approval-rating-hits-all-time-low-cnbc-survey/

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  • From Bill@21:1/5 to John H on Sat Jul 23 19:08:50 2022
    John H <jherring@cox.net> wrote:
    On Fri, 22 Jul 2022 18:37:47 -0700 (PDT),
    "waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com" <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote:

    I'm aware that some of you still hold Trump in high esteem even after
    some of the recent disclosures. Here's what some others think, people
    who were close to him and had a ringside seat:

    A f**cking moron.” Rex Tillerson

    ”A jacka**” Lindsay Graham "I think he's a kook. I think he's crazy. I
    think he's unfit for office." Lindsay Graham "Dishonesty is Trump's
    hallmark....he is very, very not smart.” Mitt Romney

    “An idiot, unhinged." John Kelly

    "An idiot and a dope." H. R. McMaster

    "An idiot surrounded by clowns." Gary Cohn

    "A racist, misogynist and bigot." Omarosa Newman

    "He's like a 11 year-old child." Steve Bannon

    "Has the understanding of a 5th or 6th grader."Jim Mattis

    “An empty vessel when it comes to the constitution and the rule of law." Scott Pruitt

    "An idiot." Reince Priebus

    "A complete idiot." Steven Mnuchin

    “A F……. liar." John Dowd

    “Eventually he turns on everyone.” The Mooch

    ”Donald Trump ... will slash and burn and trample anything and anyone he
    perceives as being in his way or an easy scapegoat.” Susan Collins

    "The dumbest godd@mn student I ever had." William Kelley

    (Wharton professor)

    "One of us." David Duke.

    Trump is not fit to be commander in chief. Sec Esper

    But then again...

    https://nypost.com/2022/07/18/biden-economic-approval-rating-hits-all-time-low-cnbc-survey/


    Which President did a better job? Bush 1, Bush 2, Clinton, Obama, Trump?
    Which ones got us in new wars?

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  • From Alex@21:1/5 to John H on Sun Jul 24 01:16:43 2022
    John H wrote:
    On Fri, 22 Jul 2022 18:37:47 -0700 (PDT),
    "waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com" <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote:

    I'm aware that some of you still hold Trump in high esteem even after some of the recent disclosures. Here's what some others think, people who were close to him and had a ringside seat:

    A f**cking moron.” Rex Tillerson

    ”A jacka**” Lindsay Graham "I think he's a kook. I think he's crazy. I think he's unfit for office." Lindsay Graham "Dishonesty is Trump's hallmark....he is very, very not smart.” Mitt Romney

    “An idiot, unhinged." John Kelly

    "An idiot and a dope." H. R. McMaster

    "An idiot surrounded by clowns." Gary Cohn

    "A racist, misogynist and bigot." Omarosa Newman

    "He's like a 11 year-old child." Steve Bannon

    "Has the understanding of a 5th or 6th grader."Jim Mattis

    “An empty vessel when it comes to the constitution and the rule of law." Scott Pruitt

    "An idiot." Reince Priebus

    "A complete idiot." Steven Mnuchin

    “A F……. liar." John Dowd

    “Eventually he turns on everyone.” The Mooch

    ”Donald Trump ... will slash and burn and trample anything and anyone he perceives as being in his way or an easy scapegoat.” Susan Collins

    "The dumbest godd@mn student I ever had." William Kelley

    (Wharton professor)

    "One of us." David Duke.

    Trump is not fit to be commander in chief. Sec Esper
    But then again...

    https://nypost.com/2022/07/18/biden-economic-approval-rating-hits-all-time-low-cnbc-survey/

    Donnie will never understand that or bother to look at the approval
    ratings.  He's fat Harry's puppet.

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  • From Alex@21:1/5 to Bill on Sun Jul 24 01:24:22 2022
    Bill wrote:
    John H <jherring@cox.net> wrote:
    On Fri, 22 Jul 2022 18:37:47 -0700 (PDT),
    "waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com" <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote:

    I'm aware that some of you still hold Trump in high esteem even after
    some of the recent disclosures. Here's what some others think, people
    who were close to him and had a ringside seat:

    A f**cking moron.” Rex Tillerson

    ”A jacka**” Lindsay Graham "I think he's a kook. I think he's crazy. I >>> think he's unfit for office." Lindsay Graham "Dishonesty is Trump's
    hallmark....he is very, very not smart.” Mitt Romney

    “An idiot, unhinged." John Kelly

    "An idiot and a dope." H. R. McMaster

    "An idiot surrounded by clowns." Gary Cohn

    "A racist, misogynist and bigot." Omarosa Newman

    "He's like a 11 year-old child." Steve Bannon

    "Has the understanding of a 5th or 6th grader."Jim Mattis

    “An empty vessel when it comes to the constitution and the rule of law." Scott Pruitt

    "An idiot." Reince Priebus

    "A complete idiot." Steven Mnuchin

    “A F……. liar." John Dowd

    “Eventually he turns on everyone.” The Mooch

    ”Donald Trump ... will slash and burn and trample anything and anyone he >>> perceives as being in his way or an easy scapegoat.” Susan Collins

    "The dumbest godd@mn student I ever had." William Kelley

    (Wharton professor)

    "One of us." David Duke.

    Trump is not fit to be commander in chief. Sec Esper
    But then again...

    https://nypost.com/2022/07/18/biden-economic-approval-rating-hits-all-time-low-cnbc-survey/

    Which President did a better job? Bush 1, Bush 2, Clinton, Obama, Trump? Which ones got us in new wars?


    Don't forget that Biden pulled us out of Afghanistan - poorly. Actually,
    it was a treasonous failure that armed our enemies and killed 13 of our
    service members.

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  • From gfretwell@aol.com@21:1/5 to Alex on Sun Jul 24 02:34:52 2022
    On Sun, 24 Jul 2022 01:24:22 -0400, Alex <Xela777@gmail.com> wrote:

    Bill wrote:
    John H <jherring@cox.net> wrote:
    On Fri, 22 Jul 2022 18:37:47 -0700 (PDT),
    "waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com" <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote:

    I'm aware that some of you still hold Trump in high esteem even after
    some of the recent disclosures. Here's what some others think, people >>>> who were close to him and had a ringside seat:

    A f**cking moron.? Rex Tillerson

    ?A jacka**? Lindsay Graham "I think he's a kook. I think he's crazy. I >>>> think he's unfit for office." Lindsay Graham "Dishonesty is Trump's
    hallmark....he is very, very not smart.? Mitt Romney

    ?An idiot, unhinged." John Kelly

    "An idiot and a dope." H. R. McMaster

    "An idiot surrounded by clowns." Gary Cohn

    "A racist, misogynist and bigot." Omarosa Newman

    "He's like a 11 year-old child." Steve Bannon

    "Has the understanding of a 5th or 6th grader."Jim Mattis

    ?An empty vessel when it comes to the constitution and the rule of law." Scott Pruitt

    "An idiot." Reince Priebus

    "A complete idiot." Steven Mnuchin

    ?A F??. liar." John Dowd

    ?Eventually he turns on everyone.? The Mooch

    ?Donald Trump ... will slash and burn and trample anything and anyone he >>>> perceives as being in his way or an easy scapegoat.? Susan Collins

    "The dumbest godd@mn student I ever had." William Kelley

    (Wharton professor)

    "One of us." David Duke.

    Trump is not fit to be commander in chief. Sec Esper
    But then again...

    https://nypost.com/2022/07/18/biden-economic-approval-rating-hits-all-time-low-cnbc-survey/

    Which President did a better job? Bush 1, Bush 2, Clinton, Obama, Trump?
    Which ones got us in new wars?


    Don't forget that Biden pulled us out of Afghanistan - poorly. Actually,
    it was a treasonous failure that armed our enemies and killed 13 of our >service members.

    The withdrawal was sloppy and mismanaged but it was the right thing to
    do.

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  • From John H@21:1/5 to gfretwell@aol.com on Sun Jul 24 08:49:16 2022
    On Sun, 24 Jul 2022 02:34:52 -0400, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:

    On Sun, 24 Jul 2022 01:24:22 -0400, Alex <Xela777@gmail.com> wrote:

    Bill wrote:
    John H <jherring@cox.net> wrote:
    On Fri, 22 Jul 2022 18:37:47 -0700 (PDT),
    "waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com" <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote:

    I'm aware that some of you still hold Trump in high esteem even after >>>>> some of the recent disclosures. Here's what some others think, people >>>>> who were close to him and had a ringside seat:

    A f**cking moron.? Rex Tillerson

    ?A jacka**? Lindsay Graham "I think he's a kook. I think he's crazy. I >>>>> think he's unfit for office." Lindsay Graham "Dishonesty is Trump's
    hallmark....he is very, very not smart.? Mitt Romney

    ?An idiot, unhinged." John Kelly

    "An idiot and a dope." H. R. McMaster

    "An idiot surrounded by clowns." Gary Cohn

    "A racist, misogynist and bigot." Omarosa Newman

    "He's like a 11 year-old child." Steve Bannon

    "Has the understanding of a 5th or 6th grader."Jim Mattis

    ?An empty vessel when it comes to the constitution and the rule of law." Scott Pruitt

    "An idiot." Reince Priebus

    "A complete idiot." Steven Mnuchin

    ?A F??. liar." John Dowd

    ?Eventually he turns on everyone.? The Mooch

    ?Donald Trump ... will slash and burn and trample anything and anyone he >>>>> perceives as being in his way or an easy scapegoat.? Susan Collins

    "The dumbest godd@mn student I ever had." William Kelley

    (Wharton professor)

    "One of us." David Duke.

    Trump is not fit to be commander in chief. Sec Esper
    But then again...

    https://nypost.com/2022/07/18/biden-economic-approval-rating-hits-all-time-low-cnbc-survey/

    Which President did a better job? Bush 1, Bush 2, Clinton, Obama, Trump? >>> Which ones got us in new wars?


    Don't forget that Biden pulled us out of Afghanistan - poorly. Actually,
    it was a treasonous failure that armed our enemies and killed 13 of our >>service members.

    The withdrawal was sloppy and mismanaged but it was the right thing to
    do.


    ...properly, which wasn't the case.

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  • From gfretwell@aol.com@21:1/5 to John H on Sun Jul 24 13:26:04 2022
    On Sun, 24 Jul 2022 08:49:16 -0400, John H <jherring@cox.net> wrote:

    On Sun, 24 Jul 2022 02:34:52 -0400, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:

    On Sun, 24 Jul 2022 01:24:22 -0400, Alex <Xela777@gmail.com> wrote:

    Bill wrote:
    John H <jherring@cox.net> wrote:
    On Fri, 22 Jul 2022 18:37:47 -0700 (PDT),
    "waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com" <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>
    I'm aware that some of you still hold Trump in high esteem even after >>>>>> some of the recent disclosures. Here's what some others think, people >>>>>> who were close to him and had a ringside seat:

    A f**cking moron.? Rex Tillerson

    ?A jacka**? Lindsay Graham "I think he's a kook. I think he's crazy. I >>>>>> think he's unfit for office." Lindsay Graham "Dishonesty is Trump's >>>>>> hallmark....he is very, very not smart.? Mitt Romney

    ?An idiot, unhinged." John Kelly

    "An idiot and a dope." H. R. McMaster

    "An idiot surrounded by clowns." Gary Cohn

    "A racist, misogynist and bigot." Omarosa Newman

    "He's like a 11 year-old child." Steve Bannon

    "Has the understanding of a 5th or 6th grader."Jim Mattis

    ?An empty vessel when it comes to the constitution and the rule of law." Scott Pruitt

    "An idiot." Reince Priebus

    "A complete idiot." Steven Mnuchin

    ?A F??. liar." John Dowd

    ?Eventually he turns on everyone.? The Mooch

    ?Donald Trump ... will slash and burn and trample anything and anyone he >>>>>> perceives as being in his way or an easy scapegoat.? Susan Collins >>>>>>
    "The dumbest godd@mn student I ever had." William Kelley

    (Wharton professor)

    "One of us." David Duke.

    Trump is not fit to be commander in chief. Sec Esper
    But then again...

    https://nypost.com/2022/07/18/biden-economic-approval-rating-hits-all-time-low-cnbc-survey/

    Which President did a better job? Bush 1, Bush 2, Clinton, Obama, Trump? >>>> Which ones got us in new wars?


    Don't forget that Biden pulled us out of Afghanistan - poorly. Actually, >>>it was a treasonous failure that armed our enemies and killed 13 of our >>>service members.

    The withdrawal was sloppy and mismanaged but it was the right thing to
    do.


    ...properly, which wasn't the case.

    The roof of that building across the street from the US embassy in
    Saigon wasn't pretty either.
    Pulling out of any active war zone is never going to be pretty and the
    most dangerous job is the one of that guy who is the last one on the helicopter.
    My biggest complaint in all of these is how much hardware we leave
    intact on the ground for the bad guy. Don't these folks have
    explosives and thermite grenades?
    I guess we need to feed the military industrial complex making new
    stuff.

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  • From True North@21:1/5 to gfre...@aol.com on Sun Jul 24 10:42:48 2022
    On Sunday, 24 July 2022 at 14:26:38 UTC-3, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
    On Sun, 24 Jul 2022 08:49:16 -0400, John H <jher...@cox.net> wrote:

    On Sun, 24 Jul 2022 02:34:52 -0400, gfre...@aol.com wrote:

    On Sun, 24 Jul 2022 01:24:22 -0400, Alex <Xel...@gmail.com> wrote:

    Bill wrote:
    John H <jher...@cox.net> wrote:
    On Fri, 22 Jul 2022 18:37:47 -0700 (PDT),
    "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:

    I'm aware that some of you still hold Trump in high esteem even after >>>>>> some of the recent disclosures. Here's what some others think, people >>>>>> who were close to him and had a ringside seat:

    A f**cking moron.? Rex Tillerson

    ?A jacka**? Lindsay Graham "I think he's a kook. I think he's crazy. I >>>>>> think he's unfit for office." Lindsay Graham "Dishonesty is Trump's >>>>>> hallmark....he is very, very not smart.? Mitt Romney

    ?An idiot, unhinged." John Kelly

    "An idiot and a dope." H. R. McMaster

    "An idiot surrounded by clowns." Gary Cohn

    "A racist, misogynist and bigot." Omarosa Newman

    "He's like a 11 year-old child." Steve Bannon

    "Has the understanding of a 5th or 6th grader."Jim Mattis

    ?An empty vessel when it comes to the constitution and the rule of law." Scott Pruitt

    "An idiot." Reince Priebus

    "A complete idiot." Steven Mnuchin

    ?A F??. liar." John Dowd

    ?Eventually he turns on everyone.? The Mooch

    ?Donald Trump ... will slash and burn and trample anything and anyone he
    perceives as being in his way or an easy scapegoat.? Susan Collins >>>>>>
    "The dumbest godd@mn student I ever had." William Kelley

    (Wharton professor)

    "One of us." David Duke.

    Trump is not fit to be commander in chief. Sec Esper
    But then again...

    https://nypost.com/2022/07/18/biden-economic-approval-rating-hits-all-time-low-cnbc-survey/

    Which President did a better job? Bush 1, Bush 2, Clinton, Obama, Trump? >>>> Which ones got us in new wars?


    Don't forget that Biden pulled us out of Afghanistan - poorly. Actually, >>>it was a treasonous failure that armed our enemies and killed 13 of our >>>service members.

    The withdrawal was sloppy and mismanaged but it was the right thing to >>do.


    ...properly, which wasn't the case.
    The roof of that building across the street from the US embassy in
    Saigon wasn't pretty either.
    Pulling out of any active war zone is never going to be pretty and the
    most dangerous job is the one of that guy who is the last one on the helicopter.
    My biggest complaint in all of these is how much hardware we leave
    intact on the ground for the bad guy. Don't these folks have
    explosives and thermite grenades?
    I guess we need to feed the military industrial complex making new
    stuff.


    Bingo!
    It was outrageous how easily the Afghanistan Army handed over all the weapons without a fight.
    On the other hand, South Viet Nam didn't do a whole lot better.

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  • From John H@21:1/5 to princecraft49@gmail.com on Sun Jul 24 15:56:58 2022
    On Sun, 24 Jul 2022 10:42:48 -0700 (PDT), True North
    <princecraft49@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sunday, 24 July 2022 at 14:26:38 UTC-3, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
    On Sun, 24 Jul 2022 08:49:16 -0400, John H <jher...@cox.net> wrote:

    On Sun, 24 Jul 2022 02:34:52 -0400, gfre...@aol.com wrote:

    On Sun, 24 Jul 2022 01:24:22 -0400, Alex <Xel...@gmail.com> wrote:

    Bill wrote:
    John H <jher...@cox.net> wrote:
    On Fri, 22 Jul 2022 18:37:47 -0700 (PDT),
    "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:

    I'm aware that some of you still hold Trump in high esteem even after >> >>>>>> some of the recent disclosures. Here's what some others think, people >> >>>>>> who were close to him and had a ringside seat:

    A f**cking moron.? Rex Tillerson

    ?A jacka**? Lindsay Graham "I think he's a kook. I think he's crazy. I
    think he's unfit for office." Lindsay Graham "Dishonesty is Trump's >> >>>>>> hallmark....he is very, very not smart.? Mitt Romney

    ?An idiot, unhinged." John Kelly

    "An idiot and a dope." H. R. McMaster

    "An idiot surrounded by clowns." Gary Cohn

    "A racist, misogynist and bigot." Omarosa Newman

    "He's like a 11 year-old child." Steve Bannon

    "Has the understanding of a 5th or 6th grader."Jim Mattis

    ?An empty vessel when it comes to the constitution and the rule of law." Scott Pruitt

    "An idiot." Reince Priebus

    "A complete idiot." Steven Mnuchin

    ?A F??. liar." John Dowd

    ?Eventually he turns on everyone.? The Mooch

    ?Donald Trump ... will slash and burn and trample anything and anyone he
    perceives as being in his way or an easy scapegoat.? Susan Collins

    "The dumbest godd@mn student I ever had." William Kelley

    (Wharton professor)

    "One of us." David Duke.

    Trump is not fit to be commander in chief. Sec Esper
    But then again...

    https://nypost.com/2022/07/18/biden-economic-approval-rating-hits-all-time-low-cnbc-survey/

    Which President did a better job? Bush 1, Bush 2, Clinton, Obama, Trump?
    Which ones got us in new wars?


    Don't forget that Biden pulled us out of Afghanistan - poorly. Actually, >> >>>it was a treasonous failure that armed our enemies and killed 13 of our >> >>>service members.

    The withdrawal was sloppy and mismanaged but it was the right thing to
    do.


    ...properly, which wasn't the case.
    The roof of that building across the street from the US embassy in
    Saigon wasn't pretty either.
    Pulling out of any active war zone is never going to be pretty and the
    most dangerous job is the one of that guy who is the last one on the
    helicopter.
    My biggest complaint in all of these is how much hardware we leave
    intact on the ground for the bad guy. Don't these folks have
    explosives and thermite grenades?
    I guess we need to feed the military industrial complex making new
    stuff.


    Bingo!
    It was outrageous how easily the Afghanistan Army handed over all the weapons without a fight.
    On the other hand, South Viet Nam didn't do a whole lot better.


    South Vietnam did a whole lot better.

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  • From gfretwell@aol.com@21:1/5 to John H on Sun Jul 24 18:04:52 2022
    On Sun, 24 Jul 2022 15:56:58 -0400, John H <jherring@cox.net> wrote:

    On Sun, 24 Jul 2022 10:42:48 -0700 (PDT), True North ><princecraft49@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sunday, 24 July 2022 at 14:26:38 UTC-3, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
    On Sun, 24 Jul 2022 08:49:16 -0400, John H <jher...@cox.net> wrote:

    On Sun, 24 Jul 2022 02:34:52 -0400, gfre...@aol.com wrote:

    On Sun, 24 Jul 2022 01:24:22 -0400, Alex <Xel...@gmail.com> wrote:

    Bill wrote:
    John H <jher...@cox.net> wrote:
    On Fri, 22 Jul 2022 18:37:47 -0700 (PDT),
    "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:

    I'm aware that some of you still hold Trump in high esteem even after
    some of the recent disclosures. Here's what some others think, people
    who were close to him and had a ringside seat:

    A f**cking moron.? Rex Tillerson

    ?A jacka**? Lindsay Graham "I think he's a kook. I think he's crazy. I
    think he's unfit for office." Lindsay Graham "Dishonesty is Trump's >>> >>>>>> hallmark....he is very, very not smart.? Mitt Romney

    ?An idiot, unhinged." John Kelly

    "An idiot and a dope." H. R. McMaster

    "An idiot surrounded by clowns." Gary Cohn

    "A racist, misogynist and bigot." Omarosa Newman

    "He's like a 11 year-old child." Steve Bannon

    "Has the understanding of a 5th or 6th grader."Jim Mattis

    ?An empty vessel when it comes to the constitution and the rule of law." Scott Pruitt

    "An idiot." Reince Priebus

    "A complete idiot." Steven Mnuchin

    ?A F??. liar." John Dowd

    ?Eventually he turns on everyone.? The Mooch

    ?Donald Trump ... will slash and burn and trample anything and anyone he
    perceives as being in his way or an easy scapegoat.? Susan Collins >>> >>>>>>
    "The dumbest godd@mn student I ever had." William Kelley

    (Wharton professor)

    "One of us." David Duke.

    Trump is not fit to be commander in chief. Sec Esper
    But then again...

    https://nypost.com/2022/07/18/biden-economic-approval-rating-hits-all-time-low-cnbc-survey/

    Which President did a better job? Bush 1, Bush 2, Clinton, Obama, Trump?
    Which ones got us in new wars?


    Don't forget that Biden pulled us out of Afghanistan - poorly. Actually, >>> >>>it was a treasonous failure that armed our enemies and killed 13 of our >>> >>>service members.

    The withdrawal was sloppy and mismanaged but it was the right thing to >>> >>do.


    ...properly, which wasn't the case.
    The roof of that building across the street from the US embassy in
    Saigon wasn't pretty either.
    Pulling out of any active war zone is never going to be pretty and the
    most dangerous job is the one of that guy who is the last one on the
    helicopter.
    My biggest complaint in all of these is how much hardware we leave
    intact on the ground for the bad guy. Don't these folks have
    explosives and thermite grenades?
    I guess we need to feed the military industrial complex making new
    stuff.


    Bingo!
    It was outrageous how easily the Afghanistan Army handed over all the weapons without a fight.
    On the other hand, South Viet Nam didn't do a whole lot better.


    South Vietnam did a whole lot better.

    South Vietnam was actually a government. The Kabul cabal was just the
    warlord of the week and fell in with whomever looked like they were in
    charge.
    We should have taken all we could and destroyed the rest in
    Afghanistan.

    OTOH I doubt anyone really thought the ARVN was going to win either.
    It just gave us a little more graceful exit but it still ended up in a
    "run like hell" sort of way when they fell. Two marines still died in
    Saigon in April of 75, 2 years after our official exit from the war.

    You are never out until the last man leaves.

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