... there was some very damming testimony and evidencethat links Trump to some of the illegal actions at theCapital Building during the Jan 6 commission yesterday.Not sure it rises to the level of criminal liability butconfirms in my mind that Trumpshould retire frompolitics and just play golf in Jupiter, FL.Some are out for blood and won't stop until theydraw some. But when you step back for a minuteand consider the bigger picture,the alleged "insurrection" failed (or simply didn'thappen).The
... there was some very damming testimony and evidence
that links Trump to some of the illegal actions at the
Capital Building during the Jan 6 commission yesterday.
Not sure it rises to the level of criminal liability but
confirms in my mind that Trump should retire from
politics and just play golf in Jupiter, FL.
Some are out for blood and won't stop until they
draw some. But when you step back for a minute
and consider the bigger picture,
the alleged "insurrection" failed (or simply didn't
happen).
The Republic withstood the challenge. Pence was not
hung. Nobody was killed other than the protester
shot by Capital Police.
Biden was confirmed as POTUS. Trump moved out
of the White House.
Seems to me that Congress (and voters) have much more
important issues to deal with right now. The USA
is heading towards 3rd world status unless some
changes are made. Biden, although duly elected has
proven to be inept and totally unqualified to lead
the nation.
"Mr. Luddite" <nothere@noland.com> Wrote in message:rshould retire frompolitics and just play golf in Jupiter, FL.Some are out for blood and won't stop until theydraw some. But when you step back for a minuteand consider the bigger picture,the alleged "insurrection" failed (or simply didn'thappen).The
... there was some very damming testimony and evidencethat links Trump to some of the illegal actions at theCapital Building during the Jan 6 commission yesterday.Not sure it rises to the level of criminal liability butconfirms in my mind that Trump
AVG.https://www.avg.com
Trumps support of a Republican candidate (likely Desantis) would
be salvor of our country. Any other scenario would make the
outcome in 2024 iffy. JMHO
Manchin and Sinema are responsible for preventing the complete
disembowelment of America. We owe them a debt of gratitude.
Democrat leadership needs to be replaced with more centrist
individuals. Maybe that will happen after midterms. All democrats
need a voice in congress. Not just the ones with radical agendas.
We need to take and keep the power from the Democrat party until
they can demonstrate they have America's best interests at the
forefront of their agendas.
... there was some very damming testimony and evidence
that links Trump to some of the illegal actions at the
Capital Building during the Jan 6 commission yesterday.
Not sure it rises to the level of criminal liability but
confirms in my mind that Trump should retire from
politics and just play golf in Jupiter, FL.
Some are out for blood and won't stop until they
draw some. But when you step back for a minute
and consider the bigger picture,
the alleged "insurrection" failed (or simply didn't
happen).
The Republic withstood the challenge. Pence was not
hung. Nobody was killed other than the protester
shot by Capital Police.
Biden was confirmed as POTUS. Trump moved out
of the White House.
Seems to me that Congress (and voters) have much more
important issues to deal with right now. The USA
is heading towards 3rd world status unless some
changes are made. Biden, although duly elected has
proven to be inept and totally unqualified to lead
the nation.
On Wednesday, 13 July 2022 at 22:37:49 UTC-3, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote:some of them would be willing to flip on Trump in order to get a reduction in prison time. Armed with that, it might be possible to convince Trump that he was the next dominoe to fall unless he agreed to recant his stolen election claims and totally
On Wednesday, July 13, 2022 at 8:57:27 AM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
... there was some very damming testimony and evidence
that links Trump to some of the illegal actions at the
Capital Building during the Jan 6 commission yesterday.
Not sure it rises to the level of criminal liability but
confirms in my mind that Trump should retire from
politics and just play golf in Jupiter, FL.
Some are out for blood and won't stop until they
draw some. But when you step back for a minute
and consider the bigger picture,
the alleged "insurrection" failed (or simply didn't
happen).
The Republic withstood the challenge. Pence was not
hung. Nobody was killed other than the protester
shot by Capital Police.
Biden was confirmed as POTUS. Trump moved out
of the White House.
Seems to me that Congress (and voters) have much more
important issues to deal with right now. The USA
is heading towards 3rd world status unless some
changes are made. Biden, although duly elected has
proven to be inept and totally unqualified to lead
the nation.
===
I'd be OK with letting Trump fade away into some sort of Nixon-like obscurity but unfortunately that runs counter to everything we know about his personality. I'd start by trying to convict some of his close supporters and see where that goes. Surely
You guys are much too forgiving. That's why the same crap keeps going on.
If you do the crime...you do the time.
On Wednesday, July 13, 2022 at 8:57:27 AM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:some of them would be willing to flip on Trump in order to get a reduction in prison time. Armed with that, it might be possible to convince Trump that he was the next dominoe to fall unless he agreed to recant his stolen election claims and totally
... there was some very damming testimony and evidence
that links Trump to some of the illegal actions at the
Capital Building during the Jan 6 commission yesterday.
Not sure it rises to the level of criminal liability but
confirms in my mind that Trump should retire from
politics and just play golf in Jupiter, FL.
Some are out for blood and won't stop until they
draw some. But when you step back for a minute
and consider the bigger picture,
the alleged "insurrection" failed (or simply didn't
happen).
The Republic withstood the challenge. Pence was not
hung. Nobody was killed other than the protester
shot by Capital Police.
Biden was confirmed as POTUS. Trump moved out
of the White House.
Seems to me that Congress (and voters) have much more
important issues to deal with right now. The USA
is heading towards 3rd world status unless some
changes are made. Biden, although duly elected has
proven to be inept and totally unqualified to lead
the nation.
===
I'd be OK with letting Trump fade away into some sort of Nixon-like obscurity but unfortunately that runs counter to everything we know about his personality. I'd start by trying to convict some of his close supporters and see where that goes. Surely
On Wednesday, July 13, 2022 at 10:19:15 PM UTC-4, True North wrote:Surely some of them would be willing to flip on Trump in order to get a reduction in prison time. Armed with that, it might be possible to convince Trump that he was the next dominoe to fall unless he agreed to recant his stolen election claims and
On Wednesday, 13 July 2022 at 22:37:49 UTC-3, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote:
On Wednesday, July 13, 2022 at 8:57:27 AM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
... there was some very damming testimony and evidence===
that links Trump to some of the illegal actions at the
Capital Building during the Jan 6 commission yesterday.
Not sure it rises to the level of criminal liability but
confirms in my mind that Trump should retire from
politics and just play golf in Jupiter, FL.
Some are out for blood and won't stop until they
draw some. But when you step back for a minute
and consider the bigger picture,
the alleged "insurrection" failed (or simply didn't
happen).
The Republic withstood the challenge. Pence was not
hung. Nobody was killed other than the protester
shot by Capital Police.
Biden was confirmed as POTUS. Trump moved out
of the White House.
Seems to me that Congress (and voters) have much more
important issues to deal with right now. The USA
is heading towards 3rd world status unless some
changes are made. Biden, although duly elected has
proven to be inept and totally unqualified to lead
the nation.
I'd be OK with letting Trump fade away into some sort of Nixon-like obscurity but unfortunately that runs counter to everything we know about his personality. I'd start by trying to convict some of his close supporters and see where that goes.
You guys are much too forgiving. That's why the same crap keeps going on.
If you do the crime...you do the time.
===
It's more complicated than that, much more. Trump is still a folk hero who can do no wrong to some significant percentage of the population. He needs to publicly recant some of his bull shit and fade away.
On Wednesday, 13 July 2022 at 22:37:49 UTC-3, waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com wrote:some of them would be willing to flip on Trump in order to get a reduction in prison time. Armed with that, it might be possible to convince Trump that he was the next dominoe to fall unless he agreed to recant his stolen election claims and totally
On Wednesday, July 13, 2022 at 8:57:27 AM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
... there was some very damming testimony and evidence===
that links Trump to some of the illegal actions at the
Capital Building during the Jan 6 commission yesterday.
Not sure it rises to the level of criminal liability but
confirms in my mind that Trump should retire from
politics and just play golf in Jupiter, FL.
Some are out for blood and won't stop until they
draw some. But when you step back for a minute
and consider the bigger picture,
the alleged "insurrection" failed (or simply didn't
happen).
The Republic withstood the challenge. Pence was not
hung. Nobody was killed other than the protester
shot by Capital Police.
Biden was confirmed as POTUS. Trump moved out
of the White House.
Seems to me that Congress (and voters) have much more
important issues to deal with right now. The USA
is heading towards 3rd world status unless some
changes are made. Biden, although duly elected has
proven to be inept and totally unqualified to lead
the nation.
I'd be OK with letting Trump fade away into some sort of Nixon-like obscurity but unfortunately that runs counter to everything we know about his personality. I'd start by trying to convict some of his close supporters and see where that goes. Surely
You guys are much too forgiving. That's why the same crap keeps going on.
If you do the crime...you do the time.
On Wednesday, 13 July 2022 at 22:37:49 UTC-3, waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com wrote:some of them would be willing to flip on Trump in order to get a reduction in prison time. Armed with that, it might be possible to convince Trump that he was the next dominoe to fall unless he agreed to recant his stolen election claims and totally
On Wednesday, July 13, 2022 at 8:57:27 AM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
... there was some very damming testimony and evidence===
that links Trump to some of the illegal actions at the
Capital Building during the Jan 6 commission yesterday.
Not sure it rises to the level of criminal liability but
confirms in my mind that Trump should retire from
politics and just play golf in Jupiter, FL.
Some are out for blood and won't stop until they
draw some. But when you step back for a minute
and consider the bigger picture,
the alleged "insurrection" failed (or simply didn't
happen).
The Republic withstood the challenge. Pence was not
hung. Nobody was killed other than the protester
shot by Capital Police.
Biden was confirmed as POTUS. Trump moved out
of the White House.
Seems to me that Congress (and voters) have much more
important issues to deal with right now. The USA
is heading towards 3rd world status unless some
changes are made. Biden, although duly elected has
proven to be inept and totally unqualified to lead
the nation.
I'd be OK with letting Trump fade away into some sort of Nixon-like obscurity but unfortunately that runs counter to everything we know about his personality. I'd start by trying to convict some of his close supporters and see where that goes. Surely
You guys are much too forgiving. That's why the same crap keeps going on.
If you do the crime...you do the time.
On Wed, 13 Jul 2022 19:19:13 -0700 (PDT), True North <princecraft49@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, 13 July 2022 at 22:37:49 UTC-3, waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com wrote:
On Wednesday, July 13, 2022 at 8:57:27 AM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
... there was some very damming testimony and evidence===
that links Trump to some of the illegal actions at the
Capital Building during the Jan 6 commission yesterday.
Not sure it rises to the level of criminal liability but
confirms in my mind that Trump should retire from
politics and just play golf in Jupiter, FL.
Some are out for blood and won't stop until they
draw some. But when you step back for a minute
and consider the bigger picture,
the alleged "insurrection" failed (or simply didn't
happen).
The Republic withstood the challenge. Pence was not
hung. Nobody was killed other than the protester
shot by Capital Police.
Biden was confirmed as POTUS. Trump moved out
of the White House.
Seems to me that Congress (and voters) have much more
important issues to deal with right now. The USA
is heading towards 3rd world status unless some
changes are made. Biden, although duly elected has
proven to be inept and totally unqualified to lead
the nation.
I'd be OK with letting Trump fade away into some sort of Nixon-like
obscurity but unfortunately that runs counter to everything we know
about his personality. I'd start by trying to convict some of his close
supporters and see where that goes. Surely some of them would be
willing to flip on Trump in order to get a reduction in prison time.
Armed with that, it might be possible to convince Trump that he was the
next dominoe to fall unless he agreed to recant his stolen election
claims and totally leave politics.
You guys are much too forgiving. That's why the same crap keeps going on.
If you do the crime...you do the time.
If he's committed a crime, then he should do the time. However, that's
a big 'if'.
On Wednesday, July 13, 2022 at 8:57:27 AM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
... there was some very damming testimony and evidence
that links Trump to some of the illegal actions at the
Capital Building during the Jan 6 commission yesterday.
Not sure it rises to the level of criminal liability but
confirms in my mind that Trump should retire from
politics and just play golf in Jupiter, FL.
Some are out for blood and won't stop until they
draw some. But when you step back for a minute
and consider the bigger picture,
the alleged "insurrection" failed (or simply didn't
happen).
The Republic withstood the challenge. Pence was not
hung. Nobody was killed other than the protester
shot by Capital Police.
Biden was confirmed as POTUS. Trump moved out
of the White House.
On Wed, 13 Jul 2022 19:19:13 -0700 (PDT), True NorthSurely some of them would be willing to flip on Trump in order to get a reduction in prison time. Armed with that, it might be possible to convince Trump that he was the next dominoe to fall unless he agreed to recant his stolen election claims and
<prince...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, 13 July 2022 at 22:37:49 UTC-3, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote:
On Wednesday, July 13, 2022 at 8:57:27 AM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
... there was some very damming testimony and evidence===
that links Trump to some of the illegal actions at the
Capital Building during the Jan 6 commission yesterday.
Not sure it rises to the level of criminal liability but
confirms in my mind that Trump should retire from
politics and just play golf in Jupiter, FL.
Some are out for blood and won't stop until they
draw some. But when you step back for a minute
and consider the bigger picture,
the alleged "insurrection" failed (or simply didn't
happen).
The Republic withstood the challenge. Pence was not
hung. Nobody was killed other than the protester
shot by Capital Police.
Biden was confirmed as POTUS. Trump moved out
of the White House.
Seems to me that Congress (and voters) have much more
important issues to deal with right now. The USA
is heading towards 3rd world status unless some
changes are made. Biden, although duly elected has
proven to be inept and totally unqualified to lead
the nation.
I'd be OK with letting Trump fade away into some sort of Nixon-like obscurity but unfortunately that runs counter to everything we know about his personality. I'd start by trying to convict some of his close supporters and see where that goes.
You guys are much too forgiving. That's why the same crap keeps going on.
If you do the crime...you do the time.If he's committed a crime, then he should do the time. However, that's
a big 'if'.
On Thursday, July 14, 2022 at 11:01:12 AM UTC-4, John H wrote:Surely some of them would be willing to flip on Trump in order to get a reduction in prison time. Armed with that, it might be possible to convince Trump that he was the next dominoe to fall unless he agreed to recant his stolen election claims and
On Wed, 13 Jul 2022 19:19:13 -0700 (PDT), True North
<prince...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, 13 July 2022 at 22:37:49 UTC-3, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote:
On Wednesday, July 13, 2022 at 8:57:27 AM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
... there was some very damming testimony and evidence===
that links Trump to some of the illegal actions at the
Capital Building during the Jan 6 commission yesterday.
Not sure it rises to the level of criminal liability but
confirms in my mind that Trump should retire from
politics and just play golf in Jupiter, FL.
Some are out for blood and won't stop until they
draw some. But when you step back for a minute
and consider the bigger picture,
the alleged "insurrection" failed (or simply didn't
happen).
The Republic withstood the challenge. Pence was not
hung. Nobody was killed other than the protester
shot by Capital Police.
Biden was confirmed as POTUS. Trump moved out
of the White House.
Seems to me that Congress (and voters) have much more
important issues to deal with right now. The USA
is heading towards 3rd world status unless some
changes are made. Biden, although duly elected has
proven to be inept and totally unqualified to lead
the nation.
I'd be OK with letting Trump fade away into some sort of Nixon-like obscurity but unfortunately that runs counter to everything we know about his personality. I'd start by trying to convict some of his close supporters and see where that goes.
If he's committed a crime, then he should do the time. However, that's
You guys are much too forgiving. That's why the same crap keeps going on. >> >
If you do the crime...you do the time.
a big 'if'.
===
I don't think there's any "if" at all. There's a long list to choose from if the DOJ decides to go ahead.
That's where the "if" is.
sure it rises to the level of criminal liability but>> confirms in my mind that Trump should retire from>> politics and just play golf in Jupiter, FL.>>>> Some are out for blood and won't stop until they>> draw some. But when you step back for a minute>>On Wednesday, July 13, 2022 at 8:57:27 AM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:>> ... there was some very damming testimony and evidence>> that links Trump to some of the illegal actions at the>> Capital Building during the Jan 6 commission yesterday.>>>> Not
On Thu, 14 Jul 2022 14:16:53 -0700 (PDT),Surely some of them would be willing to flip on Trump in order to get a reduction in prison time. Armed with that, it might be possible to convince Trump that he was the next dominoe to fall unless he agreed to recant his stolen election claims and
"waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thursday, July 14, 2022 at 11:01:12 AM UTC-4, John H wrote:
On Wed, 13 Jul 2022 19:19:13 -0700 (PDT), True North
<prince...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, 13 July 2022 at 22:37:49 UTC-3, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote:
On Wednesday, July 13, 2022 at 8:57:27 AM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
... there was some very damming testimony and evidence===
that links Trump to some of the illegal actions at the
Capital Building during the Jan 6 commission yesterday.
Not sure it rises to the level of criminal liability but
confirms in my mind that Trump should retire from
politics and just play golf in Jupiter, FL.
Some are out for blood and won't stop until they
draw some. But when you step back for a minute
and consider the bigger picture,
the alleged "insurrection" failed (or simply didn't
happen).
The Republic withstood the challenge. Pence was not
hung. Nobody was killed other than the protester
shot by Capital Police.
Biden was confirmed as POTUS. Trump moved out
of the White House.
Seems to me that Congress (and voters) have much more
important issues to deal with right now. The USA
is heading towards 3rd world status unless some
changes are made. Biden, although duly elected has
proven to be inept and totally unqualified to lead
the nation.
I'd be OK with letting Trump fade away into some sort of Nixon-like obscurity but unfortunately that runs counter to everything we know about his personality. I'd start by trying to convict some of his close supporters and see where that goes.
If he's committed a crime, then he should do the time. However, that's
You guys are much too forgiving. That's why the same crap keeps going on.
If you do the crime...you do the time.
a big 'if'.
===
I don't think there's any "if" at all. There's a long list to choose from if the DOJ decides to go ahead.
That's where the "if" is.The DoJ is pretty careful not to bring charges they can't get a
conviction on. We will see. My bet is they appease people like you and
Harry with a civil beef that results in a fine and that will be the
end of it.
The chances of the insurrection conviction you covet so badly are up
around the mega million ticket I have
On Thursday, July 14, 2022 at 5:36:00 PM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote:Surely some of them would be willing to flip on Trump in order to get a reduction in prison time. Armed with that, it might be possible to convince Trump that he was the next dominoe to fall unless he agreed to recant his stolen election claims and
On Thu, 14 Jul 2022 14:16:53 -0700 (PDT),
"waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thursday, July 14, 2022 at 11:01:12 AM UTC-4, John H wrote:
On Wed, 13 Jul 2022 19:19:13 -0700 (PDT), True North
<prince...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, 13 July 2022 at 22:37:49 UTC-3, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote:
On Wednesday, July 13, 2022 at 8:57:27 AM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
... there was some very damming testimony and evidence===
that links Trump to some of the illegal actions at the
Capital Building during the Jan 6 commission yesterday.
Not sure it rises to the level of criminal liability but
confirms in my mind that Trump should retire from
politics and just play golf in Jupiter, FL.
Some are out for blood and won't stop until they
draw some. But when you step back for a minute
and consider the bigger picture,
the alleged "insurrection" failed (or simply didn't
happen).
The Republic withstood the challenge. Pence was not
hung. Nobody was killed other than the protester
shot by Capital Police.
Biden was confirmed as POTUS. Trump moved out
of the White House.
Seems to me that Congress (and voters) have much more
important issues to deal with right now. The USA
is heading towards 3rd world status unless some
changes are made. Biden, although duly elected has
proven to be inept and totally unqualified to lead
the nation.
I'd be OK with letting Trump fade away into some sort of Nixon-like obscurity but unfortunately that runs counter to everything we know about his personality. I'd start by trying to convict some of his close supporters and see where that goes.
authority. - WikipediaThe DoJ is pretty careful not to bring charges they can't get aIf he's committed a crime, then he should do the time. However, that's
You guys are much too forgiving. That's why the same crap keeps going on.
If you do the crime...you do the time.
a big 'if'.
===
I don't think there's any "if" at all. There's a long list to choose from if the DOJ decides to go ahead.
That's where the "if" is.
conviction on. We will see. My bet is they appease people like you and
Harry with a civil beef that results in a fine and that will be the
end of it.
The chances of the insurrection conviction you covet so badly are up
around the mega million ticket I have
===
Witness tampering might be the most serious and provable charge at the moment. Conspiracy to commit sedition might be right up there however.
Sedition is overt conduct, such as speech and organization, that tends toward rebellion against the established order. Sedition often includes subversion of a constitution and incitement of discontent toward, or insurrection against, established
On Thu, 14 Jul 2022 19:23:31 -0700 (PDT),Surely some of them would be willing to flip on Trump in order to get a reduction in prison time. Armed with that, it might be possible to convince Trump that he was the next dominoe to fall unless he agreed to recant his stolen election claims and
"waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thursday, July 14, 2022 at 5:36:00 PM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
On Thu, 14 Jul 2022 14:16:53 -0700 (PDT),
"waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thursday, July 14, 2022 at 11:01:12 AM UTC-4, John H wrote:
On Wed, 13 Jul 2022 19:19:13 -0700 (PDT), True North
<prince...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, 13 July 2022 at 22:37:49 UTC-3, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote:
On Wednesday, July 13, 2022 at 8:57:27 AM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote: >> >> >> > ... there was some very damming testimony and evidence
that links Trump to some of the illegal actions at the===
Capital Building during the Jan 6 commission yesterday.
Not sure it rises to the level of criminal liability but
confirms in my mind that Trump should retire from
politics and just play golf in Jupiter, FL.
Some are out for blood and won't stop until they
draw some. But when you step back for a minute
and consider the bigger picture,
the alleged "insurrection" failed (or simply didn't
happen).
The Republic withstood the challenge. Pence was not
hung. Nobody was killed other than the protester
shot by Capital Police.
Biden was confirmed as POTUS. Trump moved out
of the White House.
Seems to me that Congress (and voters) have much more
important issues to deal with right now. The USA
is heading towards 3rd world status unless some
changes are made. Biden, although duly elected has
proven to be inept and totally unqualified to lead
the nation.
I'd be OK with letting Trump fade away into some sort of Nixon-like obscurity but unfortunately that runs counter to everything we know about his personality. I'd start by trying to convict some of his close supporters and see where that goes.
authority. - WikipediaThe DoJ is pretty careful not to bring charges they can't get aIf he's committed a crime, then he should do the time. However, that's >> >> a big 'if'.
You guys are much too forgiving. That's why the same crap keeps going on.
If you do the crime...you do the time.
===
I don't think there's any "if" at all. There's a long list to choose from if the DOJ decides to go ahead.
That's where the "if" is.
conviction on. We will see. My bet is they appease people like you and
Harry with a civil beef that results in a fine and that will be the
end of it.
The chances of the insurrection conviction you covet so badly are up
around the mega million ticket I have
===
Witness tampering might be the most serious and provable charge at the moment. Conspiracy to commit sedition might be right up there however.
Sedition is overt conduct, such as speech and organization, that tends toward rebellion against the established order. Sedition often includes subversion of a constitution and incitement of discontent toward, or insurrection against, established
There is always the next great orange killing hope. I stand by my prediction. He might even plead to a misdemeanor. There won't be a
14th amendment p(3) conviction and he won't go to jail.
The blow back won't be worth it. If Putin had a plot, this is it.
On Thursday, July 14, 2022 at 11:56:49 PM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
On Thu, 14 Jul 2022 19:23:31 -0700 (PDT),
"waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thursday, July 14, 2022 at 5:36:00 PM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote:There is always the next great orange killing hope. I stand by my
On Thu, 14 Jul 2022 14:16:53 -0700 (PDT),
"waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thursday, July 14, 2022 at 11:01:12 AM UTC-4, John H wrote:The DoJ is pretty careful not to bring charges they can't get a
On Wed, 13 Jul 2022 19:19:13 -0700 (PDT), True North
<prince...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, 13 July 2022 at 22:37:49 UTC-3, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote:If he's committed a crime, then he should do the time. However, that's >>>>>> a big 'if'.
On Wednesday, July 13, 2022 at 8:57:27 AM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote: >>>>>>>>> ... there was some very damming testimony and evidence
that links Trump to some of the illegal actions at the===
Capital Building during the Jan 6 commission yesterday.
Not sure it rises to the level of criminal liability but
confirms in my mind that Trump should retire from
politics and just play golf in Jupiter, FL.
Some are out for blood and won't stop until they
draw some. But when you step back for a minute
and consider the bigger picture,
the alleged "insurrection" failed (or simply didn't
happen).
The Republic withstood the challenge. Pence was not
hung. Nobody was killed other than the protester
shot by Capital Police.
Biden was confirmed as POTUS. Trump moved out
of the White House.
Seems to me that Congress (and voters) have much more
important issues to deal with right now. The USA
is heading towards 3rd world status unless some
changes are made. Biden, although duly elected has
proven to be inept and totally unqualified to lead
the nation.
I'd be OK with letting Trump fade away into some sort of
Nixon-like obscurity but unfortunately that runs counter to
everything we know about his personality. I'd start by trying to >>>>>>>> convict some of his close supporters and see where that goes.
Surely some of them would be willing to flip on Trump in order to >>>>>>>> get a reduction in prison time. Armed with that, it might be
possible to convince Trump that he was the next dominoe to fall >>>>>>>> unless he agreed to recant his stolen election claims and totally leave politics.
You guys are much too forgiving. That's why the same crap keeps going on.
If you do the crime...you do the time.
===
I don't think there's any "if" at all. There's a long list to choose >>>>> from if the DOJ decides to go ahead.
That's where the "if" is.
conviction on. We will see. My bet is they appease people like you and >>>> Harry with a civil beef that results in a fine and that will be the
end of it.
The chances of the insurrection conviction you covet so badly are up
around the mega million ticket I have
===
Witness tampering might be the most serious and provable charge at the
moment. Conspiracy to commit sedition might be right up there however.
Sedition is overt conduct, such as speech and organization, that tends
toward rebellion against the established order. Sedition often includes
subversion of a constitution and incitement of discontent toward, or
insurrection against, established authority. - Wikipedia
prediction. He might even plead to a misdemeanor. There won't be a
14th amendment p(3) conviction and he won't go to jail.
The blow back won't be worth it. If Putin had a plot, this is it.
==
I agree that there probably won't be any jail time but there needs to be
a credible threat of that.
On Thursday, July 14, 2022 at 11:56:49 PM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote:Surely some of them would be willing to flip on Trump in order to get a reduction in prison time. Armed with that, it might be possible to convince Trump that he was the next dominoe to fall unless he agreed to recant his stolen election claims and
On Thu, 14 Jul 2022 19:23:31 -0700 (PDT),
"waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thursday, July 14, 2022 at 5:36:00 PM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
On Thu, 14 Jul 2022 14:16:53 -0700 (PDT),
"waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thursday, July 14, 2022 at 11:01:12 AM UTC-4, John H wrote:
On Wed, 13 Jul 2022 19:19:13 -0700 (PDT), True North
<prince...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, 13 July 2022 at 22:37:49 UTC-3, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote:
On Wednesday, July 13, 2022 at 8:57:27 AM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote: >> >> >> >> > ... there was some very damming testimony and evidence
that links Trump to some of the illegal actions at the===
Capital Building during the Jan 6 commission yesterday.
Not sure it rises to the level of criminal liability but
confirms in my mind that Trump should retire from
politics and just play golf in Jupiter, FL.
Some are out for blood and won't stop until they
draw some. But when you step back for a minute
and consider the bigger picture,
the alleged "insurrection" failed (or simply didn't
happen).
The Republic withstood the challenge. Pence was not
hung. Nobody was killed other than the protester
shot by Capital Police.
Biden was confirmed as POTUS. Trump moved out
of the White House.
Seems to me that Congress (and voters) have much more
important issues to deal with right now. The USA
is heading towards 3rd world status unless some
changes are made. Biden, although duly elected has
proven to be inept and totally unqualified to lead
the nation.
I'd be OK with letting Trump fade away into some sort of Nixon-like obscurity but unfortunately that runs counter to everything we know about his personality. I'd start by trying to convict some of his close supporters and see where that goes.
authority. - WikipediaThe DoJ is pretty careful not to bring charges they can't get aIf he's committed a crime, then he should do the time. However, that's >> >> >> a big 'if'.
You guys are much too forgiving. That's why the same crap keeps going on.
If you do the crime...you do the time.
===
I don't think there's any "if" at all. There's a long list to choose from if the DOJ decides to go ahead.
That's where the "if" is.
conviction on. We will see. My bet is they appease people like you and
Harry with a civil beef that results in a fine and that will be the
end of it.
The chances of the insurrection conviction you covet so badly are up
around the mega million ticket I have
===
Witness tampering might be the most serious and provable charge at the moment. Conspiracy to commit sedition might be right up there however.
Sedition is overt conduct, such as speech and organization, that tends toward rebellion against the established order. Sedition often includes subversion of a constitution and incitement of discontent toward, or insurrection against, established
There is always the next great orange killing hope. I stand by my
prediction. He might even plead to a misdemeanor. There won't be a
14th amendment p(3) conviction and he won't go to jail.
The blow back won't be worth it. If Putin had a plot, this is it.
===
I agree that there probably won't be any jail time but there needs to be a credible threat of that.
... there was some very damming testimony and evidence
that links Trump to some of the illegal actions at the
Capital Building during the Jan 6 commission yesterday.
Not sure it rises to the level of criminal liability but
confirms in my mind that Trump should retire from
politics and just play golf in Jupiter, FL.
Some are out for blood and won't stop until they
draw some. But when you step back for a minute
and consider the bigger picture,
the alleged "insurrection" failed (or simply didn't
happen).
The Republic withstood the challenge. Pence was not
hung. Nobody was killed other than the protester
shot by Capital Police.
Biden was confirmed as POTUS. Trump moved out
of the White House.
Seems to me that Congress (and voters) have much more
important issues to deal with right now. The USA
is heading towards 3rd world status unless some
changes are made. Biden, although duly elected has
proven to be inept and totally unqualified to lead
the nation.
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