Keyser Söze <KeyserSöze@whitehouse.com> wrote:2F99f75ab4481499aab953bee3ff59%2Fcolor-edit-toon-trump-on-nato-and-russia.jpg >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
On 7/10/22 12:13 PM, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
On Sun, 10 Jul 2022 08:12:47 -0400, Keyser Söze
<KeyserSöze@whitehouse.com> wrote:
On 7/9/22 8:23 PM, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
B/R & Behind TV On Sat, 9 Jul 2022 17:05:24 -0400, Keyser Söze
<KeyserSöze@whitehouse.com> wrote:
On 7/9/22 2:22 PM, Bill wrote:
Keyser Söze <KeyserSöze@whitehouse.com> wrote:
On 7/9/22 2:10 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 7/9/2022 1:19 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 7/9/22 11:25 AM, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
On Sat, 9 Jul 2022 08:38:47 -0400, Keyser Söze
<KeyserSöze@whitehouse.com> wrote:
On 7/9/22 6:46 AM, John H wrote:
On Fri, 8 Jul 2022 13:37:34 -0000 (UTC), Keyser Soze >>>>>>>>>>>>> <KeyserSoze@whitehouse.com> wrote:
345...@gmail.com <3452471@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thursday, July 7, 2022 at 4:53:42 PM UTC-4, Keyser Soze wrote:
Mr. Luddite <not...@noland.com> wrote:
On 7/7/2022 2:10 PM, gfre...@aol.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 7 Jul 2022 10:17:12 -0400, Keyser Söze >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <KeyserSöz...@whitehouse.com> wrote:
On 7/7/22 6:34 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 7/6/2022 3:51 PM, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, July 6, 2022 at 2:20:17 PM UTC-4, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gfre...@aol.com wrote:
On Wed, 6 Jul 2022 10:49:22 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <not...@noland.com>
wrote:
On 7/6/2022 10:38 AM, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, July 6, 2022 at 6:41:52 AM UTC-4, Mr. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Luddite wrote:
On 7/6/2022 1:42 AM, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, July 5, 2022 at 7:13:34 AM UTC-4, Mr. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Luddite wrote:
On 7/4/2022 4:02 PM, gfre...@aol.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 4 Jul 2022 06:55:57 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <not...@noland.com>
wrote:
On 7/3/2022 8:01 PM, gfre...@aol.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 3 Jul 2022 12:19:49 -0700 (PDT), >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Sunday, July 3, 2022 at 7:00:11 AM UTC-4, Mr.
Luddite wrote:
On 7/2/2022 4:53 PM, waynebatr...@hotmail.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
On Saturday, July 2, 2022 at 4:16:22 PM UTC-4,
gfre...@aol.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 2 Jul 2022 07:39:53 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
<not...@noland.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:===
On 7/1/2022 4:58 PM, gfre...@aol.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 1 Jul 2022 11:56:20 -0700 (PDT), >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>during
On Friday, July 1, 2022 at 2:27:15 PM UTC-4,
gfre...@aol.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 1 Jul 2022 09:33:30 -0700 (PDT), >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
===From an op-ed article by Mick Mulvaneywasn't >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> running in 2024, this >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whole witch hunt evaporates. De Santis may
in USA Today: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
It's quite likely that Trump attempted to
obstruct >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> justice, which may turn out to be the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> most serious, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and most provable crime he committed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> according to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mick Mulvaney, Director of the Office of
Management >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and Budget; White House Chief of Staff. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Per Mulvaney, such claims are the threat
Trump >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should be most worried about. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
He also described a former White House >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aide's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tuesday testimony as "eminently credible."
The former acting White House chief of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> staff Mick >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mulvaney wrote on Wednesday that in his >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> view the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> real threat to former President Donald >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trump was >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> evidence that might lead to accusations of
obstruction of justice. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Mulvaney wrote that he had previously >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> defended the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> former president against claims that he did
"anything illegal or criminal" in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> relation to the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Capitol riot. He said he was having >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> difficulty >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> maintaining that position, however, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> particularly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> after Hutchinson's testimony, which he >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> said he found >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "eminently credible." >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
"Because after some of the bombshells >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that got >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dropped in that hearing, my guess is that
things >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> could get very dark for the former >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> president," >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mulvaney wrote. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Mulvaney also said, though, that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tuesday's hearing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> revealed one real threat to Trump that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> didn't hinge >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on Hutchinson's words or credibility. "It
is the one >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that jumped out at me," he wrote. "And it
is the one >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that should most worry the former >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> president." >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
He referred to the evidence presented by
Rep. Liz >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheney of Wyoming toward the end of the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hearing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> consisting of two messages that January 6
panel >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> witnesses said they received before >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> giving their >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> depositions. The messages included >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> allusions to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> being a "team player" to "stay in the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> good graces in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trump world" as well as a reminder that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trump read >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> transcripts of interviews. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Mulvaney said that the implication behind
displaying >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the messages during the hearing was >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "crystal clear." >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
"The Jan. 6 committee members believe >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> evidence that people within the Trump >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> operation >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attempted to intimidate witnesses," >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mulvaney wrote. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "And that, any way you slice it, is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> obstruction of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> justice." >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What do you want to bet, if Trump said he
be taking >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that option away >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from him anyway. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
witch-hunt >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /?wiCH ?h?nt/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nounhistorical >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> noun: witch-hunt; plural noun: witch-hunts;
noun: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> witchhunt; plural noun: witchhunts >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
a) search for and subsequent persecution of
a supposed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> witch. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> b) informal: a campaign directed against a
person or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> group holding unorthodox or unpopular views.
I take some exception to your use of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "witch-hunt" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because of its implication of a search for
something >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that isn't real. In my mind, and the mind >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of many >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> others, Trump's criminality is very real. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The question >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is how best to prove it, and how best to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> punish it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not sure it's enough to just keep him >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from running >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in 2024 but that's a good start. I'd like >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to see his >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cult mystique with the right win sector of the
Republican party totally annihilated so >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that we never >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have to deal with his toxic influence again.
The whole process bothers me. Even you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> admit, the whole >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exercise is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> designed to prevent him from running again (two
impeachments, one >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> after he left office and now you are hanging
your hat >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on the 14th >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> amendment) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Isn't this supposed to be up to the voters?
Why are you folks so afraid of open and free
elections? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would much prefer that he simply gets >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clobbered in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the primaries by >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> margins too great to protest. De Santis is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> already >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chipping away at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> his base. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I still believe the risks of trying to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> charge this guy >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> over bullshit >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and the social upheaval it might cause is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not worth the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> risk for the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> slim chance you can get any kind of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> conviction by 2024. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The court would still be hearing motions by
then.
I mentioned before, Cruz is still in court >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for a school >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shooting in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2018 and it was a slam dunk against a kid >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with few >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> resources to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> present a defense. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trump may be a piece of shit but he is a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rich piece of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shit who has >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> always been surrounded by lawyers. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Even Biden the Bozo isn't blaming Trump for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> much anymore. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's all "Russia, Russia, Russia". >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Biden has to be a little careful or someone >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will point >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> out Russia was >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pretty quiet on Trump's watch. They got frisky
Obama's watch >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and started a war on Biden's watch. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Putin had Trump right where he wanted him and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> didn't want
to upset the balance. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
https://cdn.forumcomm.com/dims4/default/cc2560c/2147483647/strip/false/crop/3259x2423+0+0/resize/1486x1105!/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fforum-communications-production-web.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fbrightspot%2F5d%2F6e%
Ignorance is your savior.I haven't seen any documentation that Trump seriously made such an >>>>>>>> offer, especially in light of his urging on his thug followers to >>>>>>>> engage in armed insurrection of the capital and the hanging of Mike Pence.There is no record of former President Donald Trump officially >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> authorizingBiden has enough juice at DoJ to have them slow walk thisWhen I think of corruption I am not thinking bad >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> policies, etc.I would put the stick in the dirt when GHWB took >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> office and weCute.
It's obvious you have an intense dislike for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trump which is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> understandable. Based on your many posts about >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> him, your
dislike goes back a long ways ... back when he >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was in
private business and well before he ran for and
won the
Presidency.
But, if you can put that intense dislike and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bias aside for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a moment, do you really feel the USA is in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> better positions >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and conditions, economically, domestically and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> globally
today compared to four years ago?. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
===
The seeds of inflation were planted on Trump's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> watch with
the Quantitative Easing program. It helped to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> keep the
economy afloat during the Covid crisis but now >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> were paying
the price. The same can be said for the global >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> supply chain
crisis. Could Trump have done anything about it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if still in
office? Frankly I doubt it. He would have done a
good job of
blaming it on someone else however. That's his >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> special
talent. Does it not matter to you that he tried >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to overthrow
an election and obstruct the peaceful transfer of
power?
That is the bedrock of our democracy, and Trump >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reminds us
of how fragile it can be. The vast majority of the
electorate saw through his bluff, bluster and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bullshit in
the 2020 election and rightfully voted him out of
office.
For better or worse Biden was the only choice. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For that we
can thank the feckless Republican party who stood
by their
flawed candidate while the ship was burning. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
The Obama fiscal policy rewarded his rich >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contributors,
bankers and
Wall Street but it left the middle class >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> suffering. The more >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we hear
about who actually got the money the more pissed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people are.
They are
really just scratching the surface of the massive
fraud with
a few
small timers who got charged. The big players who
raked in
millions
and padded their bottom line with it, like >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> airlines are still >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> free to
do it again.
I have a hunch that history will record the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Obama/Biden years
as being
the most corrupt in modern times. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
have
suffered from bad leadership since. That is both on the
corporate and
government side. The corporations adopted a 90 day >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> window for
their
decision making, just trying to make good quarterly
numbers, not
really building anything and they were supported by
the same
mentality
in Washington. It was all about how Wall Street is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doing with
no real
concern with how things are going on Main Street, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what we do
next year
or how we will ever service the debt they incurred.
The Democrats
embraced Rubin, Summers, Geithner and Greenspan more
than the
Republicans.
We can complain about the American oligarchs like >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jobs, Bezos
and Musk
but at least they were building things. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Musk and Bezos are pretty frustrated with the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> government too.
I am thinking corruption in the sense of using the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> power and
influence of an elected office for personal financial
gains.
Biden is a perfect example of a smiling, career >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> politician who
has his
hand out everywhere. Hunter's laptop will eventually
do him in.
I don't think GWB was corrupt in this sense. You can
argue his
policies but there's no evidence anywhere of him >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> personally
gaining by them financially, at least not by plan. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
This will irk Wayne and Harry but neither did Trump.
--
===
I'm not irked at all, in fact I agree with you about >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> GWB. I think
the jury is still out on Biden but no one is more >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> corrupt than
Trump. It's in his genes. GWBs big failing was putting
too much
blind faith in Cheney and Rumsfeld.. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
I think the jury may be closer to a decision on Biden >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than you may
think.
Have you followed and considered any of the Hunter laptop
revelations or
have you chosen to ignore them as most of the liberal >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> press and media
has?
===
I've mostly ignored the Hunter allegations since he's justIf some of the allegations are true (I am not saying they
leveraging his family connections like so many others. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is Joe
responsible for the actions of his adult son? If Hunter
has broken
laws he should be prosecuted like anyone else. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
*are*) broken
laws may extend beyond Hunter. In fact, it could turn out
that Hunter
technically broke no laws but if his daddy shared >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> financially in his
business activities, especially when VP, this could >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> become a really
big legal issue.
thing until
he is out of office, then he hopes nobody will care. The >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> media largely
ignores this anyway. I suppose, if Trump is a precedent, a
GOP house
could still impeach him from his VP office, 10 years later.
===
Even in the unlikely event that Biden the senior did >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything illegal
as VP, the statute of limitations will have long since >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> expired. Let's
try to remember that this discussion is about Trump, whose
misdeeds
are current and ongoing. No one else in the history of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this country
has illegally tried to stay in power after losing a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> presidential
election. The illegality continues as he solicits millions in
donations under the false pretext that the election was >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stolen from him.
Wayne said:
"Let's try to remember that this discussion is about Trump,
whose
misdeeds are current and ongoing."
Given the record so far of his presidency, the discussion >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> really
*should* be about Biden. He's running out of people to blame.
Because, of course, when the Obama-Biden Admin came to an >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> end, Biden
asked his supporters to come to D.C., and plan and commit an
armed
insurrection against the House of Representatives and find >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> political
leaders and execute them.
Biden couldn't draw a big enough crowd to even scare the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> impotent Cap
Po.
If Trump organized an armed insurrection on Jan 6th as Wayne >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and Harry
claim why did he authorized and offer National Guard troops to
assist
Capital Police four days prior?
20,000 National Guard troops for the U.S. Capitol ahead of the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jan. 6,
2021, attack.
There is no evidence that House Speaker Nancy Pelosi denied such an
authorization, and experts said she doesn’t have the authority
to do so in
the first place.
A Vanity Fair report said Trump made a passing remark to his >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> acting defense
secretary about potentially needing 10,000 National Guard >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> troops, not
20,000. But there’s no evidence the comment was treated as a formal
authorization.
The ultra-liberal fake news rag Vanity Fair is not proof. That's
your go-to source?
There's no wonder you are so ill-informed.
Where is your written, official proof Shithead Trump formally >>>>>>>>>>>>>> authorized
national guard intervention?
Read, dipshit. This is much closer to 'proof' than any bullshit you've
posted:
https://mynbc15.com/news/nation-world/trump-admin-was-ready-to-deploy-national-guard-on-jan-6-capitol-police-timeline-shows-january-donald
A news report, shit for brains, is not written, official proof of a
government action. Might work for you and your moron buddies, but >>>>>>>>>>>> not in
the real world.
Your moron buddies do not have a clue how the chain of command works
if you think the president "formally requests" anything from the DCNG.
Maybe that is what happens when you successfully dodge the draft. >>>>>>>>>>
I wasn't the one making such a claim; I stated Trump made no such >>>>>>>>>> formal request. And it isn't my fault that you were too intellectually
lazy to get and keep a student deferment.
You have successfully obscured this discussion with semantics in order
to avoid answering the original question posed. Permit me to rephrase
it for your benefit:
"If Trump organized an armed insurrection on Jan 6th as Wayne and Harry
claim why did he offer National Guard troops to assist
Capital Police four days prior?"
Armed insurrection? Seems as if the only armed aggression was the Capital
Police!
The Cap Po had machine guns. The rioters had a few pointy flag sticks. >>>>> That is unarmed.
The only homicide came at the hands of the Cap Po.
Testimony at the hearings says some of the TrumpTrash was armed with
firearms. It's too bad the police didn't shoot a few dozen of the
insurrectionists.
"Testimony" at that witch hunt seems to be a lot of gossip that
wouldn't last 10 seconds in a courtroom but the congress lets it go on
for days.
On 7/10/22 12:38 PM, Bill wrote:2F99f75ab4481499aab953bee3ff59%2Fcolor-edit-toon-trump-on-nato-and-russia.jpg >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Keyser Söze <KeyserSöze@whitehouse.com> wrote:
On 7/10/22 12:13 PM, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
On Sun, 10 Jul 2022 08:12:47 -0400, Keyser Söze
<KeyserSöze@whitehouse.com> wrote:
On 7/9/22 8:23 PM, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
B/R & Behind TV On Sat, 9 Jul 2022 17:05:24 -0400, Keyser Söze
<KeyserSöze@whitehouse.com> wrote:
On 7/9/22 2:22 PM, Bill wrote:
Keyser Söze <KeyserSöze@whitehouse.com> wrote:
On 7/9/22 2:10 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 7/9/2022 1:19 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 7/9/22 11:25 AM, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
On Sat, 9 Jul 2022 08:38:47 -0400, Keyser Söze
<KeyserSöze@whitehouse.com> wrote:
On 7/9/22 6:46 AM, John H wrote:
On Fri, 8 Jul 2022 13:37:34 -0000 (UTC), Keyser Soze >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <KeyserSoze@whitehouse.com> wrote:
345...@gmail.com <3452471@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thursday, July 7, 2022 at 4:53:42 PM UTC-4, Keyser Soze wrote:
Mr. Luddite <not...@noland.com> wrote:
On 7/7/2022 2:10 PM, gfre...@aol.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 7 Jul 2022 10:17:12 -0400, Keyser Söze >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <KeyserSöz...@whitehouse.com> wrote:
On 7/7/22 6:34 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/6/2022 3:51 PM, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, July 6, 2022 at 2:20:17 PM UTC-4, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gfre...@aol.com wrote:
On Wed, 6 Jul 2022 10:49:22 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <not...@noland.com>
wrote:
On 7/6/2022 10:38 AM, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, July 6, 2022 at 6:41:52 AM UTC-4, Mr. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Luddite wrote:
On 7/6/2022 1:42 AM, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, July 5, 2022 at 7:13:34 AM UTC-4, Mr. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Luddite wrote:
On 7/4/2022 4:02 PM, gfre...@aol.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 4 Jul 2022 06:55:57 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <not...@noland.com>
wrote:
On 7/3/2022 8:01 PM, gfre...@aol.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 3 Jul 2022 12:19:49 -0700 (PDT), >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Sunday, July 3, 2022 at 7:00:11 AM UTC-4, Mr.
Luddite wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/2/2022 4:53 PM, waynebatr...@hotmail.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
On Saturday, July 2, 2022 at 4:16:22 PM UTC-4,
gfre...@aol.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 2 Jul 2022 07:39:53 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
<not...@noland.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:===
On 7/1/2022 4:58 PM, gfre...@aol.com wrote:during
On Fri, 1 Jul 2022 11:56:20 -0700 (PDT), >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
On Friday, July 1, 2022 at 2:27:15 PM UTC-4,
gfre...@aol.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 1 Jul 2022 09:33:30 -0700 (PDT),
"waynebatr...@hotmail.com" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From an op-ed article by Mick Mulvaney=== >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
in USA Today: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's quite likely that Trump attempted towasn't >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> running in 2024, this >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whole witch hunt evaporates. De Santis may
obstruct >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> justice, which may turn out to be the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> most serious, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and most provable crime he committed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> according to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mick Mulvaney, Director of the Office of
Management >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and Budget; White House Chief of Staff.
Trump >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should be most worried about. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He also described a former White House >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aide's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tuesday testimony as "eminently credible."Per Mulvaney, such claims are the threat
view the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> real threat to former President Donald >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trump was >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> evidence that might lead to accusations ofThe former acting White House chief of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> staff Mick >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mulvaney wrote on Wednesday that in his
obstruction of justice. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mulvaney wrote that he had previously >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> defended the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> former president against claims that he did
"anything illegal or criminal" in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> relation to the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Capitol riot. He said he was having >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> difficulty >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> maintaining that position, however, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> particularly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> after Hutchinson's testimony, which he >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> said he found >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "eminently credible." >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Because after some of the bombshells >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that got >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dropped in that hearing, my guess is that
things >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> could get very dark for the former >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> president," >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mulvaney wrote. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mulvaney also said, though, that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tuesday's hearing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> revealed one real threat to Trump that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> didn't hinge >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on Hutchinson's words or credibility. "It
is the one >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that jumped out at me," he wrote. "And it
is the one >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that should most worry the former >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> president." >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He referred to the evidence presented by
Rep. Liz >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheney of Wyoming toward the end of the
hearing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> consisting of two messages that January 6
panel >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> witnesses said they received before >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> giving their >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> depositions. The messages included >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> allusions to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> being a "team player" to "stay in the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> good graces in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trump world" as well as a reminder that
Trump read >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> transcripts of interviews. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mulvaney said that the implication behind
displaying >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the messages during the hearing was >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "crystal clear." >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "The Jan. 6 committee members believe >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> evidence that people within the Trump >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> operation >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attempted to intimidate witnesses," >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mulvaney wrote. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "And that, any way you slice it, is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> obstruction of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> justice." >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What do you want to bet, if Trump said he
be taking >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that option away >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from him anyway. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
witch-hunt >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /?wiCH ?h?nt/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nounhistorical >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> noun: witch-hunt; plural noun: witch-hunts;
noun: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> witchhunt; plural noun: witchhunts >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
a) search for and subsequent persecution of
a supposed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> witch. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> b) informal: a campaign directed against a
person or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> group holding unorthodox or unpopular views.
I take some exception to your use of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "witch-hunt" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because of its implication of a search for
something >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that isn't real. In my mind, and the mind
of many >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> others, Trump's criminality is very real.
The question >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is how best to prove it, and how best to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> punish it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not sure it's enough to just keep him
from running >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in 2024 but that's a good start. I'd like
to see his >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cult mystique with the right win sector of the
Republican party totally annihilated so >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that we never >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have to deal with his toxic influence again.
The whole process bothers me. Even you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> admit, the whole >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exercise is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> designed to prevent him from running again (two
impeachments, one >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> after he left office and now you are hanging
your hat >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on the 14th >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> amendment) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Isn't this supposed to be up to the voters?
Why are you folks so afraid of open and free
elections? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would much prefer that he simply gets >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clobbered in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the primaries by >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> margins too great to protest. De Santis is
already >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chipping away at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> his base. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I still believe the risks of trying to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> charge this guy >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> over bullshit >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and the social upheaval it might cause is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not worth the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> risk for the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> slim chance you can get any kind of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> conviction by 2024. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The court would still be hearing motions by
then. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I mentioned before, Cruz is still in court
for a school >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shooting in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2018 and it was a slam dunk against a kid >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with few >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> resources to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> present a defense. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trump may be a piece of shit but he is a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rich piece of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shit who has >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> always been surrounded by lawyers. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Even Biden the Bozo isn't blaming Trump for
much anymore. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's all "Russia, Russia, Russia". >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Biden has to be a little careful or someone >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will point >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> out Russia was >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pretty quiet on Trump's watch. They got frisky
Obama's watch >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and started a war on Biden's watch. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Putin had Trump right where he wanted him and
didn't want >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to upset the balance. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
https://cdn.forumcomm.com/dims4/default/cc2560c/2147483647/strip/false/crop/3259x2423+0+0/resize/1486x1105!/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fforum-communications-production-web.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fbrightspot%2F5d%2F6e%
I haven't seen any documentation that Trump seriously made such an >>>>>>>>> offer, especially in light of his urging on his thug followers to >>>>>>>>> engage in armed insurrection of the capital and the hanging of Mike Pence.There is no record of former President Donald Trump officiallyBiden has enough juice at DoJ to have them slow walk thisWhen I think of corruption I am not thinking bad >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> policies, etc.I would put the stick in the dirt when GHWB took >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> office and weCute.
It's obvious you have an intense dislike for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trump which is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> understandable. Based on your many posts about
him, your
dislike goes back a long ways ... back when he
was in
private business and well before he ran for and
won the
Presidency.
But, if you can put that intense dislike and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bias aside for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a moment, do you really feel the USA is in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> better positions >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and conditions, economically, domestically and
globally
today compared to four years ago?. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
===
The seeds of inflation were planted on Trump's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> watch with
the Quantitative Easing program. It helped to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> keep the
economy afloat during the Covid crisis but now >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> were paying
the price. The same can be said for the global >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> supply chain
crisis. Could Trump have done anything about it
if still in
office? Frankly I doubt it. He would have done a
good job of
blaming it on someone else however. That's his >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> special
talent. Does it not matter to you that he tried
to overthrow
an election and obstruct the peaceful transfer of
power?
That is the bedrock of our democracy, and Trump
reminds us
of how fragile it can be. The vast majority of the
electorate saw through his bluff, bluster and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bullshit in
the 2020 election and rightfully voted him out of
office.
For better or worse Biden was the only choice. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For that we
can thank the feckless Republican party who stood
by their
flawed candidate while the ship was burning. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
The Obama fiscal policy rewarded his rich >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contributors,
bankers and
Wall Street but it left the middle class >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> suffering. The more >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we hear
about who actually got the money the more pissed
people are.
They are
really just scratching the surface of the massive
fraud with
a few
small timers who got charged. The big players who
raked in
millions
and padded their bottom line with it, like >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> airlines are still >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> free to
do it again.
I have a hunch that history will record the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Obama/Biden years
as being
the most corrupt in modern times. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
have
suffered from bad leadership since. That is both on the
corporate and
government side. The corporations adopted a 90 day
window for
their
decision making, just trying to make good quarterly
numbers, not
really building anything and they were supported by
the same
mentality
in Washington. It was all about how Wall Street is
doing with
no real
concern with how things are going on Main Street, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what we do
next year
or how we will ever service the debt they incurred.
The Democrats
embraced Rubin, Summers, Geithner and Greenspan more
than the
Republicans.
We can complain about the American oligarchs like >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jobs, Bezos
and Musk
but at least they were building things. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Musk and Bezos are pretty frustrated with the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> government too.
I am thinking corruption in the sense of using the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> power and
influence of an elected office for personal financial
gains.
Biden is a perfect example of a smiling, career >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> politician who
has his
hand out everywhere. Hunter's laptop will eventually
do him in.
I don't think GWB was corrupt in this sense. You can
argue his
policies but there's no evidence anywhere of him >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> personally
gaining by them financially, at least not by plan. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
This will irk Wayne and Harry but neither did Trump.
--
===
I'm not irked at all, in fact I agree with you about
GWB. I think
the jury is still out on Biden but no one is more >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> corrupt than
Trump. It's in his genes. GWBs big failing was putting
too much
blind faith in Cheney and Rumsfeld.. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
I think the jury may be closer to a decision on Biden
than you may
think.
Have you followed and considered any of the Hunter laptop
revelations or
have you chosen to ignore them as most of the liberal
press and media
has?
===
I've mostly ignored the Hunter allegations since he's justIf some of the allegations are true (I am not saying they
leveraging his family connections like so many others.
Is Joe
responsible for the actions of his adult son? If Hunter
has broken
laws he should be prosecuted like anyone else. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
*are*) broken
laws may extend beyond Hunter. In fact, it could turn out
that Hunter
technically broke no laws but if his daddy shared >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> financially in his
business activities, especially when VP, this could >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> become a really
big legal issue.
thing until
he is out of office, then he hopes nobody will care. The
media largely
ignores this anyway. I suppose, if Trump is a precedent, a
GOP house
could still impeach him from his VP office, 10 years later.
===
Even in the unlikely event that Biden the senior did >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything illegal
as VP, the statute of limitations will have long since >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> expired. Let's
try to remember that this discussion is about Trump, whose
misdeeds
are current and ongoing. No one else in the history of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this country
has illegally tried to stay in power after losing a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> presidential
election. The illegality continues as he solicits millions in
donations under the false pretext that the election was >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stolen from him.
Wayne said:
"Let's try to remember that this discussion is about Trump,
whose
misdeeds are current and ongoing."
Given the record so far of his presidency, the discussion >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> really
*should* be about Biden. He's running out of people to blame.
Because, of course, when the Obama-Biden Admin came to an >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> end, Biden
asked his supporters to come to D.C., and plan and commit an
armed
insurrection against the House of Representatives and find >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> political
leaders and execute them.
Biden couldn't draw a big enough crowd to even scare the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> impotent Cap
Po.
If Trump organized an armed insurrection on Jan 6th as Wayne >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and Harry
claim why did he authorized and offer National Guard troops to
assist
Capital Police four days prior?
authorizing
20,000 National Guard troops for the U.S. Capitol ahead of the
Jan. 6,
2021, attack.
There is no evidence that House Speaker Nancy Pelosi denied such an
authorization, and experts said she doesn’t have the authority
to do so in
the first place.
A Vanity Fair report said Trump made a passing remark to his >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> acting defense
secretary about potentially needing 10,000 National Guard >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> troops, not
20,000. But there’s no evidence the comment was treated as a formal
authorization.
The ultra-liberal fake news rag Vanity Fair is not proof. That's
your go-to source?
There's no wonder you are so ill-informed.
Where is your written, official proof Shithead Trump formally >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> authorized
national guard intervention?
Read, dipshit. This is much closer to 'proof' than any bullshit you've
posted:
https://mynbc15.com/news/nation-world/trump-admin-was-ready-to-deploy-national-guard-on-jan-6-capitol-police-timeline-shows-january-donald
A news report, shit for brains, is not written, official proof of a
government action. Might work for you and your moron buddies, but >>>>>>>>>>>>> not in
the real world.
Your moron buddies do not have a clue how the chain of command works
if you think the president "formally requests" anything from the DCNG.
Maybe that is what happens when you successfully dodge the draft. >>>>>>>>>>>
I wasn't the one making such a claim; I stated Trump made no such >>>>>>>>>>> formal request. And it isn't my fault that you were too intellectually
lazy to get and keep a student deferment.
You have successfully obscured this discussion with semantics in order
to avoid answering the original question posed. Permit me to rephrase
it for your benefit:
"If Trump organized an armed insurrection on Jan 6th as Wayne and Harry
claim why did he offer National Guard troops to assist
Capital Police four days prior?"
Keyser Söze <KeyserSöze@whitehouse.com> wrote:2F99f75ab4481499aab953bee3ff59%2Fcolor-edit-toon-trump-on-nato-and-russia.jpg >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
On 7/10/22 12:13 PM, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
On Sun, 10 Jul 2022 08:12:47 -0400, Keyser Söze
<KeyserSöze@whitehouse.com> wrote:
On 7/9/22 8:23 PM, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
B/R & Behind TV On Sat, 9 Jul 2022 17:05:24 -0400, Keyser Söze
<KeyserSöze@whitehouse.com> wrote:
On 7/9/22 2:22 PM, Bill wrote:
Keyser Söze <KeyserSöze@whitehouse.com> wrote:
On 7/9/22 2:10 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 7/9/2022 1:19 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 7/9/22 11:25 AM, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
On Sat, 9 Jul 2022 08:38:47 -0400, Keyser Söze
<KeyserSöze@whitehouse.com> wrote:
On 7/9/22 6:46 AM, John H wrote:
On Fri, 8 Jul 2022 13:37:34 -0000 (UTC), Keyser Soze >>>>>>>>>>>>> <KeyserSoze@whitehouse.com> wrote:
345...@gmail.com <3452471@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thursday, July 7, 2022 at 4:53:42 PM UTC-4, Keyser Soze wrote:
Mr. Luddite <not...@noland.com> wrote:
On 7/7/2022 2:10 PM, gfre...@aol.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 7 Jul 2022 10:17:12 -0400, Keyser Söze >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <KeyserSöz...@whitehouse.com> wrote:
On 7/7/22 6:34 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 7/6/2022 3:51 PM, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, July 6, 2022 at 2:20:17 PM UTC-4, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gfre...@aol.com wrote:
On Wed, 6 Jul 2022 10:49:22 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <not...@noland.com>
wrote:
On 7/6/2022 10:38 AM, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, July 6, 2022 at 6:41:52 AM UTC-4, Mr. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Luddite wrote:
On 7/6/2022 1:42 AM, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, July 5, 2022 at 7:13:34 AM UTC-4, Mr. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Luddite wrote:
On 7/4/2022 4:02 PM, gfre...@aol.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 4 Jul 2022 06:55:57 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <not...@noland.com>
wrote:
On 7/3/2022 8:01 PM, gfre...@aol.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 3 Jul 2022 12:19:49 -0700 (PDT), >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Sunday, July 3, 2022 at 7:00:11 AM UTC-4, Mr.
Luddite wrote:
On 7/2/2022 4:53 PM, waynebatr...@hotmail.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
On Saturday, July 2, 2022 at 4:16:22 PM UTC-4,
gfre...@aol.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 2 Jul 2022 07:39:53 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
<not...@noland.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:===
On 7/1/2022 4:58 PM, gfre...@aol.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 1 Jul 2022 11:56:20 -0700 (PDT), >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>during
On Friday, July 1, 2022 at 2:27:15 PM UTC-4,
gfre...@aol.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 1 Jul 2022 09:33:30 -0700 (PDT), >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
===From an op-ed article by Mick Mulvaneywasn't >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> running in 2024, this >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whole witch hunt evaporates. De Santis may
in USA Today: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
It's quite likely that Trump attempted to
obstruct >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> justice, which may turn out to be the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> most serious, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and most provable crime he committed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> according to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mick Mulvaney, Director of the Office of
Management >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and Budget; White House Chief of Staff. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Per Mulvaney, such claims are the threat
Trump >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should be most worried about. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
He also described a former White House >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aide's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tuesday testimony as "eminently credible."
The former acting White House chief of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> staff Mick >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mulvaney wrote on Wednesday that in his >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> view the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> real threat to former President Donald >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trump was >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> evidence that might lead to accusations of
obstruction of justice. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Mulvaney wrote that he had previously >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> defended the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> former president against claims that he did
"anything illegal or criminal" in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> relation to the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Capitol riot. He said he was having >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> difficulty >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> maintaining that position, however, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> particularly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> after Hutchinson's testimony, which he >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> said he found >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "eminently credible." >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
"Because after some of the bombshells >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that got >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dropped in that hearing, my guess is that
things >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> could get very dark for the former >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> president," >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mulvaney wrote. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Mulvaney also said, though, that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tuesday's hearing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> revealed one real threat to Trump that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> didn't hinge >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on Hutchinson's words or credibility. "It
is the one >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that jumped out at me," he wrote. "And it
is the one >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that should most worry the former >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> president." >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
He referred to the evidence presented by
Rep. Liz >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheney of Wyoming toward the end of the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hearing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> consisting of two messages that January 6
panel >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> witnesses said they received before >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> giving their >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> depositions. The messages included >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> allusions to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> being a "team player" to "stay in the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> good graces in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trump world" as well as a reminder that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trump read >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> transcripts of interviews. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Mulvaney said that the implication behind
displaying >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the messages during the hearing was >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "crystal clear." >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
"The Jan. 6 committee members believe >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> evidence that people within the Trump >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> operation >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attempted to intimidate witnesses," >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mulvaney wrote. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "And that, any way you slice it, is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> obstruction of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> justice." >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What do you want to bet, if Trump said he
be taking >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that option away >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from him anyway. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
witch-hunt >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /?wiCH ?h?nt/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nounhistorical >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> noun: witch-hunt; plural noun: witch-hunts;
noun: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> witchhunt; plural noun: witchhunts >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
a) search for and subsequent persecution of
a supposed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> witch. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> b) informal: a campaign directed against a
person or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> group holding unorthodox or unpopular views.
I take some exception to your use of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "witch-hunt" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because of its implication of a search for
something >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that isn't real. In my mind, and the mind >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of many >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> others, Trump's criminality is very real. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The question >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is how best to prove it, and how best to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> punish it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not sure it's enough to just keep him >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from running >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in 2024 but that's a good start. I'd like >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to see his >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cult mystique with the right win sector of the
Republican party totally annihilated so >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that we never >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have to deal with his toxic influence again.
The whole process bothers me. Even you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> admit, the whole >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exercise is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> designed to prevent him from running again (two
impeachments, one >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> after he left office and now you are hanging
your hat >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on the 14th >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> amendment) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Isn't this supposed to be up to the voters?
Why are you folks so afraid of open and free
elections? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would much prefer that he simply gets >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clobbered in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the primaries by >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> margins too great to protest. De Santis is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> already >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chipping away at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> his base. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I still believe the risks of trying to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> charge this guy >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> over bullshit >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and the social upheaval it might cause is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not worth the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> risk for the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> slim chance you can get any kind of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> conviction by 2024. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The court would still be hearing motions by
then.
I mentioned before, Cruz is still in court >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for a school >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shooting in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2018 and it was a slam dunk against a kid >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with few >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> resources to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> present a defense. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trump may be a piece of shit but he is a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rich piece of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shit who has >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> always been surrounded by lawyers. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Even Biden the Bozo isn't blaming Trump for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> much anymore. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's all "Russia, Russia, Russia". >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Biden has to be a little careful or someone >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will point >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> out Russia was >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pretty quiet on Trump's watch. They got frisky
Obama's watch >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and started a war on Biden's watch. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Putin had Trump right where he wanted him and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> didn't want
to upset the balance. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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Ignorance is your savior.I haven't seen any documentation that Trump seriously made such an >>>>>>>> offer, especially in light of his urging on his thug followers to >>>>>>>> engage in armed insurrection of the capital and the hanging of Mike Pence.There is no record of former President Donald Trump officially >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> authorizingBiden has enough juice at DoJ to have them slow walk thisWhen I think of corruption I am not thinking bad >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> policies, etc.I would put the stick in the dirt when GHWB took >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> office and weCute.
It's obvious you have an intense dislike for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trump which is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> understandable. Based on your many posts about >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> him, your
dislike goes back a long ways ... back when he >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was in
private business and well before he ran for and
won the
Presidency.
But, if you can put that intense dislike and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bias aside for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a moment, do you really feel the USA is in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> better positions >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and conditions, economically, domestically and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> globally
today compared to four years ago?. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
===
The seeds of inflation were planted on Trump's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> watch with
the Quantitative Easing program. It helped to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> keep the
economy afloat during the Covid crisis but now >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> were paying
the price. The same can be said for the global >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> supply chain
crisis. Could Trump have done anything about it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if still in
office? Frankly I doubt it. He would have done a
good job of
blaming it on someone else however. That's his >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> special
talent. Does it not matter to you that he tried >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to overthrow
an election and obstruct the peaceful transfer of
power?
That is the bedrock of our democracy, and Trump >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reminds us
of how fragile it can be. The vast majority of the
electorate saw through his bluff, bluster and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bullshit in
the 2020 election and rightfully voted him out of
office.
For better or worse Biden was the only choice. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For that we
can thank the feckless Republican party who stood
by their
flawed candidate while the ship was burning. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
The Obama fiscal policy rewarded his rich >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contributors,
bankers and
Wall Street but it left the middle class >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> suffering. The more >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we hear
about who actually got the money the more pissed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people are.
They are
really just scratching the surface of the massive
fraud with
a few
small timers who got charged. The big players who
raked in
millions
and padded their bottom line with it, like >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> airlines are still >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> free to
do it again.
I have a hunch that history will record the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Obama/Biden years
as being
the most corrupt in modern times. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
have
suffered from bad leadership since. That is both on the
corporate and
government side. The corporations adopted a 90 day >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> window for
their
decision making, just trying to make good quarterly
numbers, not
really building anything and they were supported by
the same
mentality
in Washington. It was all about how Wall Street is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doing with
no real
concern with how things are going on Main Street, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what we do
next year
or how we will ever service the debt they incurred.
The Democrats
embraced Rubin, Summers, Geithner and Greenspan more
than the
Republicans.
We can complain about the American oligarchs like >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jobs, Bezos
and Musk
but at least they were building things. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Musk and Bezos are pretty frustrated with the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> government too.
I am thinking corruption in the sense of using the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> power and
influence of an elected office for personal financial
gains.
Biden is a perfect example of a smiling, career >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> politician who
has his
hand out everywhere. Hunter's laptop will eventually
do him in.
I don't think GWB was corrupt in this sense. You can
argue his
policies but there's no evidence anywhere of him >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> personally
gaining by them financially, at least not by plan. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
This will irk Wayne and Harry but neither did Trump.
--
===
I'm not irked at all, in fact I agree with you about >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> GWB. I think
the jury is still out on Biden but no one is more >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> corrupt than
Trump. It's in his genes. GWBs big failing was putting
too much
blind faith in Cheney and Rumsfeld.. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
I think the jury may be closer to a decision on Biden >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than you may
think.
Have you followed and considered any of the Hunter laptop
revelations or
have you chosen to ignore them as most of the liberal >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> press and media
has?
===
I've mostly ignored the Hunter allegations since he's justIf some of the allegations are true (I am not saying they
leveraging his family connections like so many others. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is Joe
responsible for the actions of his adult son? If Hunter
has broken
laws he should be prosecuted like anyone else. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
*are*) broken
laws may extend beyond Hunter. In fact, it could turn out
that Hunter
technically broke no laws but if his daddy shared >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> financially in his
business activities, especially when VP, this could >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> become a really
big legal issue.
thing until
he is out of office, then he hopes nobody will care. The >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> media largely
ignores this anyway. I suppose, if Trump is a precedent, a
GOP house
could still impeach him from his VP office, 10 years later.
===
Even in the unlikely event that Biden the senior did >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything illegal
as VP, the statute of limitations will have long since >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> expired. Let's
try to remember that this discussion is about Trump, whose
misdeeds
are current and ongoing. No one else in the history of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this country
has illegally tried to stay in power after losing a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> presidential
election. The illegality continues as he solicits millions in
donations under the false pretext that the election was >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stolen from him.
Wayne said:
"Let's try to remember that this discussion is about Trump,
whose
misdeeds are current and ongoing."
Given the record so far of his presidency, the discussion >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> really
*should* be about Biden. He's running out of people to blame.
Because, of course, when the Obama-Biden Admin came to an >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> end, Biden
asked his supporters to come to D.C., and plan and commit an
armed
insurrection against the House of Representatives and find >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> political
leaders and execute them.
Biden couldn't draw a big enough crowd to even scare the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> impotent Cap
Po.
If Trump organized an armed insurrection on Jan 6th as Wayne >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and Harry
claim why did he authorized and offer National Guard troops to
assist
Capital Police four days prior?
20,000 National Guard troops for the U.S. Capitol ahead of the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jan. 6,
2021, attack.
There is no evidence that House Speaker Nancy Pelosi denied such an
authorization, and experts said she doesn’t have the authority
to do so in
the first place.
A Vanity Fair report said Trump made a passing remark to his >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> acting defense
secretary about potentially needing 10,000 National Guard >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> troops, not
20,000. But there’s no evidence the comment was treated as a formal
authorization.
The ultra-liberal fake news rag Vanity Fair is not proof. That's
your go-to source?
There's no wonder you are so ill-informed.
Where is your written, official proof Shithead Trump formally >>>>>>>>>>>>>> authorized
national guard intervention?
Read, dipshit. This is much closer to 'proof' than any bullshit you've
posted:
https://mynbc15.com/news/nation-world/trump-admin-was-ready-to-deploy-national-guard-on-jan-6-capitol-police-timeline-shows-january-donald
A news report, shit for brains, is not written, official proof of a
government action. Might work for you and your moron buddies, but >>>>>>>>>>>> not in
the real world.
Your moron buddies do not have a clue how the chain of command works
if you think the president "formally requests" anything from the DCNG.
Maybe that is what happens when you successfully dodge the draft. >>>>>>>>>>
I wasn't the one making such a claim; I stated Trump made no such >>>>>>>>>> formal request. And it isn't my fault that you were too intellectually
lazy to get and keep a student deferment.
You have successfully obscured this discussion with semantics in order
to avoid answering the original question posed. Permit me to rephrase
it for your benefit:
"If Trump organized an armed insurrection on Jan 6th as Wayne and Harry
claim why did he offer National Guard troops to assist
Capital Police four days prior?"
Armed insurrection? Seems as if the only armed aggression was the Capital
Police!
The Cap Po had machine guns. The rioters had a few pointy flag sticks. >>>>> That is unarmed.
The only homicide came at the hands of the Cap Po.
Testimony at the hearings says some of the TrumpTrash was armed with
firearms. It's too bad the police didn't shoot a few dozen of the
insurrectionists.
"Testimony" at that witch hunt seems to be a lot of gossip that
wouldn't last 10 seconds in a courtroom but the congress lets it go on
for days.
Keyser Söze <KeyserSöze@whitehouse.com> wrote:2F99f75ab4481499aab953bee3ff59%2Fcolor-edit-toon-trump-on-nato-and-russia.jpg >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
On 7/10/22 12:38 PM, Bill wrote:
Keyser Söze <KeyserSöze@whitehouse.com> wrote:
On 7/10/22 12:13 PM, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
On Sun, 10 Jul 2022 08:12:47 -0400, Keyser Söze
<KeyserSöze@whitehouse.com> wrote:
On 7/9/22 8:23 PM, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
B/R & Behind TV On Sat, 9 Jul 2022 17:05:24 -0400, Keyser Söze >>>>>>> <KeyserSöze@whitehouse.com> wrote:
On 7/9/22 2:22 PM, Bill wrote:
Keyser Söze <KeyserSöze@whitehouse.com> wrote:
On 7/9/22 2:10 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 7/9/2022 1:19 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 7/9/22 11:25 AM, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
On Sat, 9 Jul 2022 08:38:47 -0400, Keyser Söze
<KeyserSöze@whitehouse.com> wrote:
On 7/9/22 6:46 AM, John H wrote:
On Fri, 8 Jul 2022 13:37:34 -0000 (UTC), Keyser Soze >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <KeyserSoze@whitehouse.com> wrote:
345...@gmail.com <3452471@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thursday, July 7, 2022 at 4:53:42 PM UTC-4, Keyser Soze wrote:
Mr. Luddite <not...@noland.com> wrote:
On 7/7/2022 2:10 PM, gfre...@aol.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 7 Jul 2022 10:17:12 -0400, Keyser Söze >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <KeyserSöz...@whitehouse.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
On 7/7/22 6:34 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/6/2022 3:51 PM, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, July 6, 2022 at 2:20:17 PM UTC-4, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gfre...@aol.com wrote:
On Wed, 6 Jul 2022 10:49:22 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <not...@noland.com>
wrote:
On 7/6/2022 10:38 AM, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, July 6, 2022 at 6:41:52 AM UTC-4, Mr. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Luddite wrote:
On 7/6/2022 1:42 AM, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote:
On Tuesday, July 5, 2022 at 7:13:34 AM UTC-4, Mr. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Luddite wrote:
On 7/4/2022 4:02 PM, gfre...@aol.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 4 Jul 2022 06:55:57 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <not...@noland.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
On 7/3/2022 8:01 PM, gfre...@aol.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 3 Jul 2022 12:19:49 -0700 (PDT), >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Sunday, July 3, 2022 at 7:00:11 AM UTC-4, Mr.
Luddite wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/2/2022 4:53 PM, waynebatr...@hotmail.com
wrote:
On Saturday, July 2, 2022 at 4:16:22 PM UTC-4,
gfre...@aol.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 2 Jul 2022 07:39:53 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
<not...@noland.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/1/2022 4:58 PM, gfre...@aol.com wrote:===
will point >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> out Russia was >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pretty quiet on Trump's watch. They got friskyOn Fri, 1 Jul 2022 11:56:20 -0700 (PDT), >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
On Friday, July 1, 2022 at 2:27:15 PM UTC-4,
gfre...@aol.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 1 Jul 2022 09:33:30 -0700 (PDT),
"waynebatr...@hotmail.com" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From an op-ed article by Mick Mulvaney=== >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
in USA Today: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's quite likely that Trump attempted towasn't >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> running in 2024, this >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whole witch hunt evaporates. De Santis may
obstruct >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> justice, which may turn out to be the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> most serious, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and most provable crime he committed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> according to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mick Mulvaney, Director of the Office of
Management >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and Budget; White House Chief of Staff.
Trump >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should be most worried about. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He also described a former White HousePer Mulvaney, such claims are the threat
aide's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tuesday testimony as "eminently credible."
staff Mick >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mulvaney wrote on Wednesday that in hisThe former acting White House chief of
view the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> real threat to former President Donald
Trump was >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> evidence that might lead to accusations of
obstruction of justice. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mulvaney wrote that he had previously >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> defended the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> former president against claims that he did
"anything illegal or criminal" in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> relation to the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Capitol riot. He said he was having >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> difficulty >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> maintaining that position, however, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> particularly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> after Hutchinson's testimony, which he
said he found >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "eminently credible." >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Because after some of the bombshells >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that got >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dropped in that hearing, my guess is that
things >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> could get very dark for the former >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> president," >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mulvaney wrote. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mulvaney also said, though, that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tuesday's hearing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> revealed one real threat to Trump that
didn't hinge >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on Hutchinson's words or credibility. "It
is the one >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that jumped out at me," he wrote. "And it
is the one >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that should most worry the former >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> president." >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He referred to the evidence presented by
Rep. Liz >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheney of Wyoming toward the end of the
hearing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> consisting of two messages that January 6
panel >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> witnesses said they received before >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> giving their >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> depositions. The messages included >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> allusions to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> being a "team player" to "stay in the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> good graces in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trump world" as well as a reminder that
Trump read >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> transcripts of interviews. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mulvaney said that the implication behind
displaying >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the messages during the hearing was >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "crystal clear." >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "The Jan. 6 committee members believe >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> evidence that people within the Trump >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> operation >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attempted to intimidate witnesses," >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mulvaney wrote. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "And that, any way you slice it, is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> obstruction of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> justice." >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What do you want to bet, if Trump said he
be taking >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that option away >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from him anyway. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
witch-hunt >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /?wiCH ?h?nt/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nounhistorical >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> noun: witch-hunt; plural noun: witch-hunts;
noun: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> witchhunt; plural noun: witchhunts >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
a) search for and subsequent persecution of
a supposed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> witch. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> b) informal: a campaign directed against a
person or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> group holding unorthodox or unpopular views.
I take some exception to your use of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "witch-hunt" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because of its implication of a search for
something >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that isn't real. In my mind, and the mind
of many >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> others, Trump's criminality is very real.
The question >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is how best to prove it, and how best to
punish it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not sure it's enough to just keep him
from running >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in 2024 but that's a good start. I'd like
to see his >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cult mystique with the right win sector of the
Republican party totally annihilated so >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that we never >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have to deal with his toxic influence again.
The whole process bothers me. Even you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> admit, the whole >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exercise is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> designed to prevent him from running again (two
impeachments, one >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> after he left office and now you are hanging
your hat >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on the 14th >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> amendment) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Isn't this supposed to be up to the voters?
Why are you folks so afraid of open and free
elections? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would much prefer that he simply gets >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clobbered in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the primaries by >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> margins too great to protest. De Santis is
already >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chipping away at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> his base. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I still believe the risks of trying to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> charge this guy >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> over bullshit >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and the social upheaval it might cause is
not worth the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> risk for the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> slim chance you can get any kind of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> conviction by 2024. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The court would still be hearing motions by
then. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I mentioned before, Cruz is still in court
for a school >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shooting in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2018 and it was a slam dunk against a kid
with few >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> resources to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> present a defense. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trump may be a piece of shit but he is a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rich piece of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shit who has >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> always been surrounded by lawyers. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Even Biden the Bozo isn't blaming Trump for
much anymore. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's all "Russia, Russia, Russia". >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Biden has to be a little careful or someone
during >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Obama's watch >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and started a war on Biden's watch. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Putin had Trump right where he wanted him and
didn't want >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to upset the balance. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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There is no record of former President Donald Trump officiallyBiden has enough juice at DoJ to have them slow walk thisWhen I think of corruption I am not thinking bad >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> policies, etc.I would put the stick in the dirt when GHWB took >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> office and weCute.
It's obvious you have an intense dislike for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trump which is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> understandable. Based on your many posts about
him, your
dislike goes back a long ways ... back when he
was in
private business and well before he ran for and
won the
Presidency. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
But, if you can put that intense dislike and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bias aside for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a moment, do you really feel the USA is in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> better positions >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and conditions, economically, domestically and
globally
today compared to four years ago?. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
===
The seeds of inflation were planted on Trump's
watch with
the Quantitative Easing program. It helped to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> keep the
economy afloat during the Covid crisis but now
were paying
the price. The same can be said for the global
supply chain >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> crisis. Could Trump have done anything about it
if still in
office? Frankly I doubt it. He would have done a
good job of
blaming it on someone else however. That's his
special
talent. Does it not matter to you that he tried
to overthrow >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> an election and obstruct the peaceful transfer of
power?
That is the bedrock of our democracy, and Trump
reminds us
of how fragile it can be. The vast majority of the
electorate saw through his bluff, bluster and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bullshit in
the 2020 election and rightfully voted him out of
office.
For better or worse Biden was the only choice.
For that we
can thank the feckless Republican party who stood
by their
flawed candidate while the ship was burning. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
The Obama fiscal policy rewarded his rich >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contributors,
bankers and
Wall Street but it left the middle class >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> suffering. The more >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we hear
about who actually got the money the more pissed
people are.
They are
really just scratching the surface of the massive
fraud with
a few
small timers who got charged. The big players who
raked in
millions
and padded their bottom line with it, like >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> airlines are still >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> free to
do it again.
I have a hunch that history will record the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Obama/Biden years >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as being
the most corrupt in modern times. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
have
suffered from bad leadership since. That is both on the
corporate and
government side. The corporations adopted a 90 day
window for
their
decision making, just trying to make good quarterly
numbers, not
really building anything and they were supported by
the same
mentality
in Washington. It was all about how Wall Street is
doing with
no real
concern with how things are going on Main Street,
what we do
next year
or how we will ever service the debt they incurred.
The Democrats
embraced Rubin, Summers, Geithner and Greenspan more
than the
Republicans.
We can complain about the American oligarchs like
Jobs, Bezos
and Musk
but at least they were building things. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Musk and Bezos are pretty frustrated with the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> government too.
I am thinking corruption in the sense of using the
power and
influence of an elected office for personal financial
gains.
Biden is a perfect example of a smiling, career >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> politician who
has his
hand out everywhere. Hunter's laptop will eventually
do him in.
I don't think GWB was corrupt in this sense. You can
argue his
policies but there's no evidence anywhere of him >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> personally
gaining by them financially, at least not by plan.
This will irk Wayne and Harry but neither did Trump.
--
===
I'm not irked at all, in fact I agree with you about
GWB. I think
the jury is still out on Biden but no one is more >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> corrupt than
Trump. It's in his genes. GWBs big failing was putting
too much
blind faith in Cheney and Rumsfeld.. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
I think the jury may be closer to a decision on Biden
than you may
think.
Have you followed and considered any of the Hunter laptop
revelations or
have you chosen to ignore them as most of the liberal
press and media
has?
===
I've mostly ignored the Hunter allegations since he's justIf some of the allegations are true (I am not saying they
leveraging his family connections like so many others.
Is Joe
responsible for the actions of his adult son? If Hunter
has broken
laws he should be prosecuted like anyone else. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
*are*) broken
laws may extend beyond Hunter. In fact, it could turn out
that Hunter
technically broke no laws but if his daddy shared >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> financially in his
business activities, especially when VP, this could >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> become a really
big legal issue.
thing until
he is out of office, then he hopes nobody will care. The
media largely
ignores this anyway. I suppose, if Trump is a precedent, a
GOP house
could still impeach him from his VP office, 10 years later.
===
Even in the unlikely event that Biden the senior did >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything illegal
as VP, the statute of limitations will have long since >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> expired. Let's
try to remember that this discussion is about Trump, whose
misdeeds
are current and ongoing. No one else in the history of
this country
has illegally tried to stay in power after losing a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> presidential
election. The illegality continues as he solicits millions in
donations under the false pretext that the election was >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stolen from him.
Wayne said:
"Let's try to remember that this discussion is about Trump,
whose
misdeeds are current and ongoing." >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Given the record so far of his presidency, the discussion
really
*should* be about Biden. He's running out of people to blame.
Because, of course, when the Obama-Biden Admin came to an >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> end, Biden
asked his supporters to come to D.C., and plan and commit an
armed
insurrection against the House of Representatives and find
political
leaders and execute them.
Biden couldn't draw a big enough crowd to even scare the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> impotent Cap
Po.
If Trump organized an armed insurrection on Jan 6th as Wayne
and Harry
claim why did he authorized and offer National Guard troops to
assist
Capital Police four days prior?
authorizing
20,000 National Guard troops for the U.S. Capitol ahead of the
Jan. 6,
2021, attack.
There is no evidence that House Speaker Nancy Pelosi denied such an
authorization, and experts said she doesn’t have the authority
to do so in
the first place.
A Vanity Fair report said Trump made a passing remark to his >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> acting defense
secretary about potentially needing 10,000 National Guard >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> troops, not
20,000. But there’s no evidence the comment was treated as a formal
authorization.
The ultra-liberal fake news rag Vanity Fair is not proof. That's
your go-to source?
There's no wonder you are so ill-informed.
Where is your written, official proof Shithead Trump formally >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> authorized
national guard intervention?
Read, dipshit. This is much closer to 'proof' than any bullshit you've
posted:
https://mynbc15.com/news/nation-world/trump-admin-was-ready-to-deploy-national-guard-on-jan-6-capitol-police-timeline-shows-january-donald
A news report, shit for brains, is not written, official proof of a
government action. Might work for you and your moron buddies, but
not in
the real world.
Your moron buddies do not have a clue how the chain of command works
if you think the president "formally requests" anything from the DCNG.
Maybe that is what happens when you successfully dodge the draft. >>>>>>>>>>>>
I wasn't the one making such a claim; I stated Trump made no such >>>>>>>>>>>> formal request. And it isn't my fault that you were too intellectually
lazy to get and keep a student deferment.
You have successfully obscured this discussion with semantics in order
On 7/10/22 12:13 PM, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:2F99f75ab4481499aab953bee3ff59%2Fcolor-edit-toon-trump-on-nato-and-russia.jpg >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
On Sun, 10 Jul 2022 08:12:47 -0400, Keyser Söze
<KeyserSöze@whitehouse.com> wrote:
On 7/9/22 8:23 PM, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
B/R & Behind TV On Sat, 9 Jul 2022 17:05:24 -0400, Keyser Söze
<KeyserSöze@whitehouse.com> wrote:
On 7/9/22 2:22 PM, Bill wrote:
Keyser Söze <KeyserSöze@whitehouse.com> wrote:
On 7/9/22 2:10 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 7/9/2022 1:19 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 7/9/22 11:25 AM, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
On Sat, 9 Jul 2022 08:38:47 -0400, Keyser Söze
<KeyserSöze@whitehouse.com> wrote:
On 7/9/22 6:46 AM, John H wrote:
On Fri, 8 Jul 2022 13:37:34 -0000 (UTC), Keyser Soze
<KeyserSoze@whitehouse.com> wrote:
345...@gmail.com <3452471@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thursday, July 7, 2022 at 4:53:42 PM UTC-4, Keyser >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Soze wrote:
Mr. Luddite <not...@noland.com> wrote:
On 7/7/2022 2:10 PM, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
On Thu, 7 Jul 2022 10:17:12 -0400, Keyser Söze >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <KeyserSöz...@whitehouse.com> wrote:
On 7/7/22 6:34 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 7/6/2022 3:51 PM, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, July 6, 2022 at 2:20:17 PM UTC-4, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gfre...@aol.com wrote:
On Wed, 6 Jul 2022 10:49:22 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <not...@noland.com>
wrote:
On 7/6/2022 10:38 AM, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, July 6, 2022 at 6:41:52 AM UTC-4, Mr. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Luddite wrote:
On 7/6/2022 1:42 AM, waynebatr...@hotmail.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
On Tuesday, July 5, 2022 at 7:13:34 AM UTC-4, Mr. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Luddite wrote:
On 7/4/2022 4:02 PM, gfre...@aol.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 4 Jul 2022 06:55:57 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <not...@noland.com>
wrote:
On 7/3/2022 8:01 PM, gfre...@aol.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 3 Jul 2022 12:19:49 -0700 (PDT), >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <wayne.b...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
On Sunday, July 3, 2022 at 7:00:11 AM >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> UTC-4, Mr.
Luddite wrote:
On 7/2/2022 4:53 PM, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> waynebatr...@hotmail.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
On Saturday, July 2, 2022 at 4:16:22 PM >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> UTC-4,
gfre...@aol.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 2 Jul 2022 07:39:53 -0400, "Mr. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Luddite"
<not...@noland.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:===
On 7/1/2022 4:58 PM, gfre...@aol.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:will point
On Fri, 1 Jul 2022 11:56:20 -0700 (PDT), >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
On Friday, July 1, 2022 at 2:27:15 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PM UTC-4, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gfre...@aol.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 1 Jul 2022 09:33:30 -0700 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (PDT), >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
===From an op-ed article by Mick >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mulvaney >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in USA Today: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
It's quite likely that Trump >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attempted to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> obstruct >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> justice, which may turn out to be the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> most serious, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and most provable crime he committed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> according to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mick Mulvaney, Director of the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Office of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Management >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and Budget; White House Chief of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Staff. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Per Mulvaney, such claims are the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> threat >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trump >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should be most worried about. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
He also described a former White >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> House >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aide's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tuesday testimony as "eminently >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> credible." >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
The former acting White House >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chief of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> staff Mick >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mulvaney wrote on Wednesday that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in his >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> view the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> real threat to former President >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Donald >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trump was >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> evidence that might lead to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> accusations of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> obstruction of justice. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Mulvaney wrote that he had previously >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> defended the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> former president against claims >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that he did >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "anything illegal or criminal" in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> relation to the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Capitol riot. He said he was having >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> difficulty >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> maintaining that position, however, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> particularly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> after Hutchinson's testimony, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which he >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> said he found >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "eminently credible." >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
"Because after some of the bombshells >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that got >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dropped in that hearing, my guess >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> things >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> could get very dark for the former >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> president," >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mulvaney wrote. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Mulvaney also said, though, that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tuesday's hearing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> revealed one real threat to Trump >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> didn't hinge >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on Hutchinson's words or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> credibility. "It >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is the one >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that jumped out at me," he wrote. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "And it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is the one >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that should most worry the former >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> president." >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
He referred to the evidence >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> presented by >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rep. Liz >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheney of Wyoming toward the end >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hearing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> consisting of two messages that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> January 6 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> panel >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> witnesses said they received before >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> giving their >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> depositions. The messages included >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> allusions to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> being a "team player" to "stay in the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> good graces in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trump world" as well as a reminder >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trump read >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> transcripts of interviews. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Mulvaney said that the implication >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> behind >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> displaying >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the messages during the hearing was >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "crystal clear." >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
"The Jan. 6 committee members believe >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> evidence that people within the Trump >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> operation >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attempted to intimidate witnesses," >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mulvaney wrote. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "And that, any way you slice it, is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> obstruction of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> justice." >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What do you want to bet, if Trump >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> said he >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wasn't >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> running in 2024, this >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whole witch hunt evaporates. De >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Santis may >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be taking >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that option away >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from him anyway. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
witch-hunt >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /?wiCH ?h?nt/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nounhistorical >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> noun: witch-hunt; plural noun: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> witch-hunts; >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> noun:
witchhunt; plural noun: witchhunts >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
a) search for and subsequent >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> persecution of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a supposed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> witch. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> b) informal: a campaign directed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> against a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> person or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> group holding unorthodox or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unpopular views. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
I take some exception to your use of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "witch-hunt" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because of its implication of a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> search for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that isn't real. In my mind, and the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mind
of many >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> others, Trump's criminality is very >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> real.
The question >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is how best to prove it, and how >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> best to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> punish it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not sure it's enough to just >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> keep him >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from running >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in 2024 but that's a good start. I'd >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like
to see his >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cult mystique with the right win >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sector of the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Republican party totally annihilated so >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that we never >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have to deal with his toxic >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> influence again. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
The whole process bothers me. Even you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> admit, the whole >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exercise is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> designed to prevent him from running >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> again (two >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> impeachments, one >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> after he left office and now you are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hanging
your hat >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on the 14th >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> amendment) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Isn't this supposed to be up to the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> voters?
Why are you folks so afraid of open >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and free >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> elections? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would much prefer that he simply gets >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clobbered in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the primaries by >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> margins too great to protest. De >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Santis is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> already
chipping away at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> his base. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I still believe the risks of trying to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> charge this guy >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> over bullshit >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and the social upheaval it might >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cause is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not worth the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> risk for the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> slim chance you can get any kind of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> conviction by 2024. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The court would still be hearing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> motions by >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then.
I mentioned before, Cruz is still in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> court
for a school >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shooting in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2018 and it was a slam dunk against a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kid
with few >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> resources to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> present a defense. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trump may be a piece of shit but he is a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rich piece of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shit who has >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> always been surrounded by lawyers. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Even Biden the Bozo isn't blaming >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trump for
much anymore. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's all "Russia, Russia, Russia". >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Biden has to be a little careful or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> someone
out Russia was >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pretty quiet on Trump's watch. They got >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> frisky
during
Obama's watch >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and started a war on Biden's watch. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Putin had Trump right where he wanted >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> him and
didn't want
to upset the balance. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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There is no record of former President Donald Trump >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> officiallyBiden has enough juice at DoJ to have them slow >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> walk thisWhen I think of corruption I am not thinking bad >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> policies, etc.I would put the stick in the dirt when GHWB took >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> office and weCute.
It's obvious you have an intense dislike for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trump which is
understandable. Based on your many posts >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about
him, your
dislike goes back a long ways ... back >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when he
was in
private business and well before he ran >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for and
won the
Presidency.
But, if you can put that intense dislike and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bias aside for
a moment, do you really feel the USA is in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> better positions >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and conditions, economically, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> domestically and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> globally
today compared to four years ago?. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
===
The seeds of inflation were planted on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trump's
watch with
the Quantitative Easing program. It helped to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> keep the
economy afloat during the Covid crisis but >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> now
were paying
the price. The same can be said for the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> global
supply chain
crisis. Could Trump have done anything >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about it
if still in
office? Frankly I doubt it. He would have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> done a
good job of
blaming it on someone else however. That's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> his
special
talent. Does it not matter to you that he >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tried
to overthrow
an election and obstruct the peaceful >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> transfer of
power?
That is the bedrock of our democracy, and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trump
reminds us
of how fragile it can be. The vast >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> majority of the
electorate saw through his bluff, bluster and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bullshit in
the 2020 election and rightfully voted him >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> out of
office.
For better or worse Biden was the only >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> choice.
For that we
can thank the feckless Republican party >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> who stood
by their
flawed candidate while the ship was burning. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
The Obama fiscal policy rewarded his rich >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contributors,
bankers and
Wall Street but it left the middle class >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> suffering. The more
we hear
about who actually got the money the more >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pissed
people are.
They are
really just scratching the surface of the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> massive
fraud with
a few
small timers who got charged. The big >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> players who
raked in
millions
and padded their bottom line with it, like >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> airlines are still
free to
do it again.
I have a hunch that history will record the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Obama/Biden years
as being
the most corrupt in modern times. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
have
suffered from bad leadership since. That is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> both on the
corporate and
government side. The corporations adopted a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 90 day
window for
their
decision making, just trying to make good >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quarterly
numbers, not
really building anything and they were >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> supported by
the same
mentality
in Washington. It was all about how Wall >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Street is
doing with
no real
concern with how things are going on Main >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Street,
what we do
next year
or how we will ever service the debt they >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> incurred.
The Democrats
embraced Rubin, Summers, Geithner and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Greenspan more
than the
Republicans.
We can complain about the American oligarchs >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like
Jobs, Bezos
and Musk
but at least they were building things. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Musk and Bezos are pretty frustrated with the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> government too.
I am thinking corruption in the sense of using >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
power and
influence of an elected office for personal >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> financial
gains.
Biden is a perfect example of a smiling, career >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> politician who
has his
hand out everywhere. Hunter's laptop will >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eventually
do him in.
I don't think GWB was corrupt in this sense. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can
argue his
policies but there's no evidence anywhere of him >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> personally
gaining by them financially, at least not by >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> plan.
This will irk Wayne and Harry but neither did >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trump.
--
===
I'm not irked at all, in fact I agree with you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about
GWB. I think
the jury is still out on Biden but no one is more >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> corrupt than
Trump. It's in his genes. GWBs big failing was >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> putting
too much
blind faith in Cheney and Rumsfeld.. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
I think the jury may be closer to a decision on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Biden
than you may
think.
Have you followed and considered any of the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hunter laptop
revelations or
have you chosen to ignore them as most of the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> liberal
press and media
has?
===
I've mostly ignored the Hunter allegations since >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> he's justIf some of the allegations are true (I am not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> saying they
leveraging his family connections like so many >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> others.
Is Joe
responsible for the actions of his adult son? If >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hunter
has broken
laws he should be prosecuted like anyone else. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
*are*) broken
laws may extend beyond Hunter. In fact, it could >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> turn out
that Hunter
technically broke no laws but if his daddy shared >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> financially in his
business activities, especially when VP, this could >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> become a really
big legal issue.
thing until
he is out of office, then he hopes nobody will >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> care. The
media largely
ignores this anyway. I suppose, if Trump is a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> precedent, a
GOP house
could still impeach him from his VP office, 10 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> years later.
===
Even in the unlikely event that Biden the senior did >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything illegal
as VP, the statute of limitations will have long since >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> expired. Let's
try to remember that this discussion is about Trump, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whose
misdeeds
are current and ongoing. No one else in the history of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this country
has illegally tried to stay in power after losing a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> presidential
election. The illegality continues as he solicits >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> millions in
donations under the false pretext that the election was >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stolen from him.
Wayne said:
"Let's try to remember that this discussion is about >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trump,
whose
misdeeds are current and ongoing."
Given the record so far of his presidency, the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discussion
really
*should* be about Biden. He's running out of people >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to blame.
Because, of course, when the Obama-Biden Admin came to an >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> end, Biden
asked his supporters to come to D.C., and plan and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> commit an
armed
insurrection against the House of Representatives and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> find
political
leaders and execute them.
Biden couldn't draw a big enough crowd to even scare the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> impotent Cap
Po.
If Trump organized an armed insurrection on Jan 6th as >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wayne
and Harry
claim why did he authorized and offer National Guard >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> troops to
assist
Capital Police four days prior?
authorizing
20,000 National Guard troops for the U.S. Capitol ahead >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the
Jan. 6,
2021, attack.
There is no evidence that House Speaker Nancy Pelosi >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> denied such an
On 7/10/22 12:38 PM, Bill wrote:2F99f75ab4481499aab953bee3ff59%2Fcolor-edit-toon-trump-on-nato-and-russia.jpg >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Keyser Söze <KeyserSöze@whitehouse.com> wrote:
On 7/10/22 12:13 PM, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
On Sun, 10 Jul 2022 08:12:47 -0400, Keyser Söze
<KeyserSöze@whitehouse.com> wrote:
On 7/9/22 8:23 PM, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
B/R & Behind TV On Sat, 9 Jul 2022 17:05:24 -0400, Keyser Söze
<KeyserSöze@whitehouse.com> wrote:
On 7/9/22 2:22 PM, Bill wrote:
Keyser Söze <KeyserSöze@whitehouse.com> wrote:
On 7/9/22 2:10 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 7/9/2022 1:19 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 7/9/22 11:25 AM, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
On Sat, 9 Jul 2022 08:38:47 -0400, Keyser Söze
<KeyserSöze@whitehouse.com> wrote:
On 7/9/22 6:46 AM, John H wrote:
On Fri, 8 Jul 2022 13:37:34 -0000 (UTC), Keyser Soze >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <KeyserSoze@whitehouse.com> wrote:
345...@gmail.com <3452471@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thursday, July 7, 2022 at 4:53:42 PM UTC-4, Keyser >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Soze wrote:
Mr. Luddite <not...@noland.com> wrote:
On 7/7/2022 2:10 PM, gfre...@aol.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 7 Jul 2022 10:17:12 -0400, Keyser Söze >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <KeyserSöz...@whitehouse.com> wrote:
On 7/7/22 6:34 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/6/2022 3:51 PM, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, July 6, 2022 at 2:20:17 PM UTC-4, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gfre...@aol.com wrote:
On Wed, 6 Jul 2022 10:49:22 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <not...@noland.com>
wrote:
On 7/6/2022 10:38 AM, waynebatr...@hotmail.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
On Wednesday, July 6, 2022 at 6:41:52 AM UTC-4, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mr.
Luddite wrote:
On 7/6/2022 1:42 AM, waynebatr...@hotmail.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
On Tuesday, July 5, 2022 at 7:13:34 AM UTC-4, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mr.
Luddite wrote:
On 7/4/2022 4:02 PM, gfre...@aol.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 4 Jul 2022 06:55:57 -0400, "Mr. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Luddite"
<not...@noland.com>
wrote:
On 7/3/2022 8:01 PM, gfre...@aol.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 3 Jul 2022 12:19:49 -0700 (PDT), >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <wayne.b...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
On Sunday, July 3, 2022 at 7:00:11 AM >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> UTC-4, Mr.
Luddite wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/2/2022 4:53 PM, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> waynebatr...@hotmail.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
On Saturday, July 2, 2022 at 4:16:22 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PM UTC-4,
gfre...@aol.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 2 Jul 2022 07:39:53 -0400, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Mr. Luddite" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <not...@noland.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
===On 7/1/2022 4:58 PM, gfre...@aol.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 1 Jul 2022 11:56:20 -0700 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (PDT), >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>will point >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> out Russia was >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pretty quiet on Trump's watch. They >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> got frisky >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> during
On Friday, July 1, 2022 at 2:27:15 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PM UTC-4, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gfre...@aol.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 1 Jul 2022 09:33:30 -0700 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (PDT), >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From an op-ed article by Mick >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mulvaney >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in USA Today: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's quite likely that Trump >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attempted to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> obstruct >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> justice, which may turn out to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> most serious, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and most provable crime he >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> committed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> according to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mick Mulvaney, Director of the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Office of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Management >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and Budget; White House Chief of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Staff. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Per Mulvaney, such claims are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the threat >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trump >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should be most worried about. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He also described a former White >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> House >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aide's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tuesday testimony as "eminently >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> credible." >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The former acting White House >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chief of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> staff Mick >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mulvaney wrote on Wednesday that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in his >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> view the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> real threat to former President >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Donald >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trump was >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> evidence that might lead to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> accusations of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> obstruction of justice. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mulvaney wrote that he had >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> previously >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> defended the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> former president against claims >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that he did >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "anything illegal or criminal" in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> relation to the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Capitol riot. He said he was having >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> difficulty >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> maintaining that position, however, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> particularly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> after Hutchinson's testimony, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which he >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> said he found >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "eminently credible." >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Because after some of the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bombshells >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that got >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dropped in that hearing, my >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> guess is that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> things >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> could get very dark for the former >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> president," >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mulvaney wrote. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mulvaney also said, though, that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tuesday's hearing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> revealed one real threat to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trump that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> didn't hinge >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on Hutchinson's words or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> credibility. "It >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is the one >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that jumped out at me," he >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote. "And it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is the one >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that should most worry the former >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> president." >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He referred to the evidence >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> presented by >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rep. Liz >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheney of Wyoming toward the end >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hearing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> consisting of two messages that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> January 6 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> panel >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> witnesses said they received before >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> giving their >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> depositions. The messages included >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> allusions to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> being a "team player" to "stay >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> good graces in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trump world" as well as a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reminder that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trump read >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> transcripts of interviews. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mulvaney said that the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> implication behind >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> displaying >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the messages during the hearing was >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "crystal clear." >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "The Jan. 6 committee members >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> believe >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> evidence that people within the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trump >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> operation >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attempted to intimidate witnesses," >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mulvaney wrote. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "And that, any way you slice it, is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> obstruction of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> justice." >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What do you want to bet, if Trump >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> said he >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wasn't >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> running in 2024, this >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whole witch hunt evaporates. De >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Santis may >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be taking >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that option away >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from him anyway. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
=== >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
witch-hunt >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /?wiCH ?h?nt/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nounhistorical >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> noun: witch-hunt; plural noun: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> witch-hunts; >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> noun: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> witchhunt; plural noun: witchhunts >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
a) search for and subsequent >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> persecution of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a supposed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> witch. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> b) informal: a campaign directed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> against a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> person or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> group holding unorthodox or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unpopular views. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
I take some exception to your use of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "witch-hunt" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because of its implication of a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> search for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that isn't real. In my mind, and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the mind >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of many >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> others, Trump's criminality is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> very real. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The question >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is how best to prove it, and how >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> best to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> punish it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not sure it's enough to just >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> keep him >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from running >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in 2024 but that's a good start. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd like >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to see his >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cult mystique with the right win >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sector of the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Republican party totally >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> annihilated so >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that we never >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have to deal with his toxic >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> influence again. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
The whole process bothers me. Even you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> admit, the whole >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exercise is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> designed to prevent him from >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> running again (two >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> impeachments, one >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> after he left office and now you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are hanging >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your hat >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on the 14th >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> amendment) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Isn't this supposed to be up to the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> voters? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why are you folks so afraid of open >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and free >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> elections? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would much prefer that he simply >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gets >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clobbered in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the primaries by >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> margins too great to protest. De >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Santis is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> already >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chipping away at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> his base. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I still believe the risks of trying to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> charge this guy >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> over bullshit >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and the social upheaval it might >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cause is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not worth the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> risk for the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> slim chance you can get any kind of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> conviction by 2024. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The court would still be hearing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> motions by >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I mentioned before, Cruz is still >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in court >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for a school >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shooting in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2018 and it was a slam dunk against >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a kid >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with few >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> resources to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> present a defense. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trump may be a piece of shit but he >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rich piece of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shit who has >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> always been surrounded by lawyers. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Even Biden the Bozo isn't blaming >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trump for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> much anymore. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's all "Russia, Russia, Russia". >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Biden has to be a little careful or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> someone
Obama's watch >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and started a war on Biden's watch. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Putin had Trump right where he wanted >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> him and
didn't want >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to upset the balance. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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Biden has enough juice at DoJ to have them slow >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> walk thisWhen I think of corruption I am not thinking >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> badI would put the stick in the dirt when GHWB >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tookCute.
It's obvious you have an intense >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dislike for
Trump which is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> understandable. Based on your many >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> posts about
him, your
dislike goes back a long ways ... back >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when he
was in
private business and well before he ran >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for and
won the
Presidency.
But, if you can put that intense >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dislike and
bias aside for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a moment, do you really feel the USA is in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> better positions >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and conditions, economically, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> domestically and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> globally
today compared to four years ago?. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
===
The seeds of inflation were planted on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trump's
watch with
the Quantitative Easing program. It >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> helped to
keep the
economy afloat during the Covid crisis >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but now
were paying
the price. The same can be said for the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> global
supply chain
crisis. Could Trump have done anything >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about it
if still in
office? Frankly I doubt it. He would >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have done a
good job of
blaming it on someone else however. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's his
special
talent. Does it not matter to you that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> he tried
to overthrow
an election and obstruct the peaceful >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> transfer of
power?
That is the bedrock of our democracy, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and Trump
reminds us
of how fragile it can be. The vast >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> majority of the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> electorate saw through his bluff, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bluster and
bullshit in
the 2020 election and rightfully voted >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> him out of
office.
For better or worse Biden was the only >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> choice.
For that we
can thank the feckless Republican party >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> who stood
by their
flawed candidate while the ship was >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> burning.
The Obama fiscal policy rewarded his rich >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contributors,
bankers and
Wall Street but it left the middle class >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> suffering. The more >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we hear
about who actually got the money the more >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pissed
people are.
They are
really just scratching the surface of the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> massive
fraud with
a few
small timers who got charged. The big >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> players who
raked in
millions
and padded their bottom line with it, like >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> airlines are still >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> free to
do it again.
I have a hunch that history will record the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Obama/Biden years
as being
the most corrupt in modern times. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
office and we
have
suffered from bad leadership since. That is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> both on the
corporate and
government side. The corporations adopted a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 90 day
window for
their
decision making, just trying to make good >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quarterly
numbers, not
really building anything and they were >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> supported by
the same
mentality
in Washington. It was all about how Wall >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Street is
doing with
no real
concern with how things are going on Main >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Street,
what we do
next year
or how we will ever service the debt they >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> incurred.
The Democrats
embraced Rubin, Summers, Geithner and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Greenspan more
than the
Republicans.
We can complain about the American >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> oligarchs like
Jobs, Bezos
and Musk
but at least they were building things. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Musk and Bezos are pretty frustrated with the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> government too.
policies, etc.
I am thinking corruption in the sense of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> using the
power and
influence of an elected office for personal >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> financial
gains.
Biden is a perfect example of a smiling, career >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> politician who
has his
hand out everywhere. Hunter's laptop will >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eventually
do him in.
I don't think GWB was corrupt in this sense. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can
argue his
policies but there's no evidence anywhere of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> him
personally
gaining by them financially, at least not by >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> plan.
This will irk Wayne and Harry but neither >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> did Trump.
--
===
I'm not irked at all, in fact I agree with >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you about
GWB. I think
the jury is still out on Biden but no one is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more
corrupt than
Trump. It's in his genes. GWBs big failing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was putting
too much
blind faith in Cheney and Rumsfeld.. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
I think the jury may be closer to a decision >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on Biden
than you may
think.
Have you followed and considered any of the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hunter laptop
revelations or
have you chosen to ignore them as most of the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> liberal
press and media
has?
===
I've mostly ignored the Hunter allegations >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> since he's justIf some of the allegations are true (I am not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> saying they
leveraging his family connections like so many >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> others.
Is Joe
responsible for the actions of his adult son? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If Hunter
has broken
laws he should be prosecuted like anyone else. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
*are*) broken
laws may extend beyond Hunter. In fact, it could >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> turn out
that Hunter
technically broke no laws but if his daddy shared >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> financially in his
business activities, especially when VP, this could >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> become a really
big legal issue.
thing until
he is out of office, then he hopes nobody will >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> care. The
media largely
ignores this anyway. I suppose, if Trump is a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> precedent, a
GOP house
could still impeach him from his VP office, 10 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> years later.
===
Even in the unlikely event that Biden the senior did >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything illegal
as VP, the statute of limitations will have long >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> since
expired. Let's
try to remember that this discussion is about >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trump, whose
misdeeds
are current and ongoing. No one else in the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> history of
this country
has illegally tried to stay in power after losing a
On 7/10/22 12:38 PM, Bill wrote:2F99f75ab4481499aab953bee3ff59%2Fcolor-edit-toon-trump-on-nato-and-russia.jpg >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Keyser Söze <KeyserSöze@whitehouse.com> wrote:
On 7/10/22 12:13 PM, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
On Sun, 10 Jul 2022 08:12:47 -0400, Keyser Söze
<KeyserSöze@whitehouse.com> wrote:
On 7/9/22 8:23 PM, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
B/R & Behind TV On Sat, 9 Jul 2022 17:05:24 -0400, Keyser Söze
<KeyserSöze@whitehouse.com> wrote:
On 7/9/22 2:22 PM, Bill wrote:
Keyser Söze <KeyserSöze@whitehouse.com> wrote:
On 7/9/22 2:10 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 7/9/2022 1:19 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 7/9/22 11:25 AM, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
On Sat, 9 Jul 2022 08:38:47 -0400, Keyser Söze
<KeyserSöze@whitehouse.com> wrote:
On 7/9/22 6:46 AM, John H wrote:
On Fri, 8 Jul 2022 13:37:34 -0000 (UTC), Keyser Soze >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <KeyserSoze@whitehouse.com> wrote:
345...@gmail.com <3452471@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thursday, July 7, 2022 at 4:53:42 PM UTC-4, Keyser Soze wrote:
Mr. Luddite <not...@noland.com> wrote:
On 7/7/2022 2:10 PM, gfre...@aol.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 7 Jul 2022 10:17:12 -0400, Keyser Söze >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <KeyserSöz...@whitehouse.com> wrote:
On 7/7/22 6:34 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/6/2022 3:51 PM, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, July 6, 2022 at 2:20:17 PM UTC-4, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gfre...@aol.com wrote:
On Wed, 6 Jul 2022 10:49:22 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <not...@noland.com>
wrote:
On 7/6/2022 10:38 AM, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, July 6, 2022 at 6:41:52 AM UTC-4, Mr. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Luddite wrote:
On 7/6/2022 1:42 AM, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, July 5, 2022 at 7:13:34 AM UTC-4, Mr. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Luddite wrote:
On 7/4/2022 4:02 PM, gfre...@aol.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 4 Jul 2022 06:55:57 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <not...@noland.com>
wrote:
On 7/3/2022 8:01 PM, gfre...@aol.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 3 Jul 2022 12:19:49 -0700 (PDT), >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Sunday, July 3, 2022 at 7:00:11 AM UTC-4, Mr.
Luddite wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/2/2022 4:53 PM, waynebatr...@hotmail.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
On Saturday, July 2, 2022 at 4:16:22 PM UTC-4,
gfre...@aol.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 2 Jul 2022 07:39:53 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
<not...@noland.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:===
On 7/1/2022 4:58 PM, gfre...@aol.com wrote:during
On Fri, 1 Jul 2022 11:56:20 -0700 (PDT), >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
On Friday, July 1, 2022 at 2:27:15 PM UTC-4,
gfre...@aol.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 1 Jul 2022 09:33:30 -0700 (PDT),
"waynebatr...@hotmail.com" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From an op-ed article by Mick Mulvaney=== >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
in USA Today: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's quite likely that Trump attempted towasn't >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> running in 2024, this >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whole witch hunt evaporates. De Santis may
obstruct >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> justice, which may turn out to be the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> most serious, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and most provable crime he committed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> according to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mick Mulvaney, Director of the Office of
Management >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and Budget; White House Chief of Staff.
Trump >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should be most worried about. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He also described a former White House >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aide's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tuesday testimony as "eminently credible."Per Mulvaney, such claims are the threat
view the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> real threat to former President Donald >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trump was >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> evidence that might lead to accusations ofThe former acting White House chief of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> staff Mick >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mulvaney wrote on Wednesday that in his
obstruction of justice. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mulvaney wrote that he had previously >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> defended the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> former president against claims that he did
"anything illegal or criminal" in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> relation to the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Capitol riot. He said he was having >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> difficulty >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> maintaining that position, however, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> particularly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> after Hutchinson's testimony, which he >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> said he found >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "eminently credible." >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Because after some of the bombshells >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that got >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dropped in that hearing, my guess is that
things >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> could get very dark for the former >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> president," >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mulvaney wrote. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mulvaney also said, though, that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tuesday's hearing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> revealed one real threat to Trump that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> didn't hinge >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on Hutchinson's words or credibility. "It
is the one >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that jumped out at me," he wrote. "And it
is the one >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that should most worry the former >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> president." >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He referred to the evidence presented by
Rep. Liz >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheney of Wyoming toward the end of the
hearing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> consisting of two messages that January 6
panel >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> witnesses said they received before >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> giving their >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> depositions. The messages included >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> allusions to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> being a "team player" to "stay in the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> good graces in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trump world" as well as a reminder that
Trump read >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> transcripts of interviews. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mulvaney said that the implication behind
displaying >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the messages during the hearing was >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "crystal clear." >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "The Jan. 6 committee members believe >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> evidence that people within the Trump >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> operation >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attempted to intimidate witnesses," >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mulvaney wrote. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "And that, any way you slice it, is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> obstruction of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> justice." >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What do you want to bet, if Trump said he
be taking >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that option away >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from him anyway. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
witch-hunt >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /?wiCH ?h?nt/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nounhistorical >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> noun: witch-hunt; plural noun: witch-hunts;
noun: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> witchhunt; plural noun: witchhunts >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
a) search for and subsequent persecution of
a supposed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> witch. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> b) informal: a campaign directed against a
person or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> group holding unorthodox or unpopular views.
I take some exception to your use of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "witch-hunt" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because of its implication of a search for
something >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that isn't real. In my mind, and the mind
of many >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> others, Trump's criminality is very real.
The question >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is how best to prove it, and how best to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> punish it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not sure it's enough to just keep him
from running >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in 2024 but that's a good start. I'd like
to see his >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cult mystique with the right win sector of the
Republican party totally annihilated so >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that we never >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have to deal with his toxic influence again.
The whole process bothers me. Even you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> admit, the whole >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exercise is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> designed to prevent him from running again (two
impeachments, one >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> after he left office and now you are hanging
your hat >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on the 14th >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> amendment) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Isn't this supposed to be up to the voters?
Why are you folks so afraid of open and free
elections? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would much prefer that he simply gets >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clobbered in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the primaries by >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> margins too great to protest. De Santis is
already >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chipping away at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> his base. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I still believe the risks of trying to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> charge this guy >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> over bullshit >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and the social upheaval it might cause is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not worth the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> risk for the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> slim chance you can get any kind of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> conviction by 2024. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The court would still be hearing motions by
then. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I mentioned before, Cruz is still in court
for a school >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shooting in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2018 and it was a slam dunk against a kid >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with few >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> resources to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> present a defense. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trump may be a piece of shit but he is a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rich piece of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shit who has >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> always been surrounded by lawyers. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Even Biden the Bozo isn't blaming Trump for
much anymore. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's all "Russia, Russia, Russia". >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Biden has to be a little careful or someone >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will point >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> out Russia was >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pretty quiet on Trump's watch. They got frisky
Obama's watch >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and started a war on Biden's watch. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Putin had Trump right where he wanted him and
didn't want >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to upset the balance. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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I haven't seen any documentation that Trump seriously made such an >>>>>>>>> offer, especially in light of his urging on his thug followers to >>>>>>>>> engage in armed insurrection of the capital and the hanging of Mike Pence.There is no record of former President Donald Trump officiallyBiden has enough juice at DoJ to have them slow walk thisWhen I think of corruption I am not thinking bad >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> policies, etc.I would put the stick in the dirt when GHWB took >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> office and weCute.
It's obvious you have an intense dislike for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trump which is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> understandable. Based on your many posts about
him, your
dislike goes back a long ways ... back when he
was in
private business and well before he ran for and
won the
Presidency.
But, if you can put that intense dislike and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bias aside for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a moment, do you really feel the USA is in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> better positions >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and conditions, economically, domestically and
globally
today compared to four years ago?. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
===
The seeds of inflation were planted on Trump's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> watch with
the Quantitative Easing program. It helped to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> keep the
economy afloat during the Covid crisis but now >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> were paying
the price. The same can be said for the global >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> supply chain
crisis. Could Trump have done anything about it
if still in
office? Frankly I doubt it. He would have done a
good job of
blaming it on someone else however. That's his >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> special
talent. Does it not matter to you that he tried
to overthrow
an election and obstruct the peaceful transfer of
power?
That is the bedrock of our democracy, and Trump
reminds us
of how fragile it can be. The vast majority of the
electorate saw through his bluff, bluster and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bullshit in
the 2020 election and rightfully voted him out of
office.
For better or worse Biden was the only choice. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For that we
can thank the feckless Republican party who stood
by their
flawed candidate while the ship was burning. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
The Obama fiscal policy rewarded his rich >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contributors,
bankers and
Wall Street but it left the middle class >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> suffering. The more >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we hear
about who actually got the money the more pissed
people are.
They are
really just scratching the surface of the massive
fraud with
a few
small timers who got charged. The big players who
raked in
millions
and padded their bottom line with it, like >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> airlines are still >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> free to
do it again.
I have a hunch that history will record the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Obama/Biden years
as being
the most corrupt in modern times. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
have
suffered from bad leadership since. That is both on the
corporate and
government side. The corporations adopted a 90 day
window for
their
decision making, just trying to make good quarterly
numbers, not
really building anything and they were supported by
the same
mentality
in Washington. It was all about how Wall Street is
doing with
no real
concern with how things are going on Main Street, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what we do
next year
or how we will ever service the debt they incurred.
The Democrats
embraced Rubin, Summers, Geithner and Greenspan more
than the
Republicans.
We can complain about the American oligarchs like >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jobs, Bezos
and Musk
but at least they were building things. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Musk and Bezos are pretty frustrated with the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> government too.
I am thinking corruption in the sense of using the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> power and
influence of an elected office for personal financial
gains.
Biden is a perfect example of a smiling, career >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> politician who
has his
hand out everywhere. Hunter's laptop will eventually
do him in.
I don't think GWB was corrupt in this sense. You can
argue his
policies but there's no evidence anywhere of him >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> personally
gaining by them financially, at least not by plan. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
This will irk Wayne and Harry but neither did Trump.
--
===
I'm not irked at all, in fact I agree with you about
GWB. I think
the jury is still out on Biden but no one is more >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> corrupt than
Trump. It's in his genes. GWBs big failing was putting
too much
blind faith in Cheney and Rumsfeld.. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
I think the jury may be closer to a decision on Biden
than you may
think.
Have you followed and considered any of the Hunter laptop
revelations or
have you chosen to ignore them as most of the liberal
press and media
has?
===
I've mostly ignored the Hunter allegations since he's justIf some of the allegations are true (I am not saying they
leveraging his family connections like so many others.
Is Joe
responsible for the actions of his adult son? If Hunter
has broken
laws he should be prosecuted like anyone else. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
*are*) broken
laws may extend beyond Hunter. In fact, it could turn out
that Hunter
technically broke no laws but if his daddy shared >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> financially in his
business activities, especially when VP, this could >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> become a really
big legal issue.
thing until
he is out of office, then he hopes nobody will care. The
media largely
ignores this anyway. I suppose, if Trump is a precedent, a
GOP house
could still impeach him from his VP office, 10 years later.
===
Even in the unlikely event that Biden the senior did >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything illegal
as VP, the statute of limitations will have long since >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> expired. Let's
try to remember that this discussion is about Trump, whose
misdeeds
are current and ongoing. No one else in the history of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this country
has illegally tried to stay in power after losing a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> presidential
election. The illegality continues as he solicits millions in
donations under the false pretext that the election was >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stolen from him.
Wayne said:
"Let's try to remember that this discussion is about Trump,
whose
misdeeds are current and ongoing."
Given the record so far of his presidency, the discussion >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> really
*should* be about Biden. He's running out of people to blame.
Because, of course, when the Obama-Biden Admin came to an >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> end, Biden
asked his supporters to come to D.C., and plan and commit an
armed
insurrection against the House of Representatives and find >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> political
leaders and execute them.
Biden couldn't draw a big enough crowd to even scare the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> impotent Cap
Po.
If Trump organized an armed insurrection on Jan 6th as Wayne >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and Harry
claim why did he authorized and offer National Guard troops to
assist
Capital Police four days prior?
authorizing
20,000 National Guard troops for the U.S. Capitol ahead of the
Jan. 6,
2021, attack.
There is no evidence that House Speaker Nancy Pelosi denied such an
authorization, and experts said she doesn’t have the authority
to do so in
the first place.
A Vanity Fair report said Trump made a passing remark to his >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> acting defense
secretary about potentially needing 10,000 National Guard >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> troops, not
20,000. But there’s no evidence the comment was treated as a formal
authorization.
The ultra-liberal fake news rag Vanity Fair is not proof. That's
your go-to source?
There's no wonder you are so ill-informed.
Where is your written, official proof Shithead Trump formally >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> authorized
national guard intervention?
Read, dipshit. This is much closer to 'proof' than any bullshit you've
posted:
https://mynbc15.com/news/nation-world/trump-admin-was-ready-to-deploy-national-guard-on-jan-6-capitol-police-timeline-shows-january-donald
A news report, shit for brains, is not written, official proof of a
government action. Might work for you and your moron buddies, but >>>>>>>>>>>>> not in
the real world.
Your moron buddies do not have a clue how the chain of command works
if you think the president "formally requests" anything from the DCNG.
Maybe that is what happens when you successfully dodge the draft. >>>>>>>>>>>
I wasn't the one making such a claim; I stated Trump made no such >>>>>>>>>>> formal request. And it isn't my fault that you were too intellectually
lazy to get and keep a student deferment.
You have successfully obscured this discussion with semantics in order
to avoid answering the original question posed. Permit me to rephrase
it for your benefit:
"If Trump organized an armed insurrection on Jan 6th as Wayne and Harry
claim why did he offer National Guard troops to assist
Capital Police four days prior?"
Keyser Söze <KeyserSöze@whitehouse.com> wrote:2F99f75ab4481499aab953bee3ff59%2Fcolor-edit-toon-trump-on-nato-and-russia.jpg >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
On 7/10/22 12:13 PM, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
On Sun, 10 Jul 2022 08:12:47 -0400, Keyser Söze
<KeyserSöze@whitehouse.com> wrote:
On 7/9/22 8:23 PM, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
B/R & Behind TV On Sat, 9 Jul 2022 17:05:24 -0400, Keyser Söze
<KeyserSöze@whitehouse.com> wrote:
On 7/9/22 2:22 PM, Bill wrote:
Keyser Söze <KeyserSöze@whitehouse.com> wrote:
On 7/9/22 2:10 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 7/9/2022 1:19 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 7/9/22 11:25 AM, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
On Sat, 9 Jul 2022 08:38:47 -0400, Keyser Söze
<KeyserSöze@whitehouse.com> wrote:
On 7/9/22 6:46 AM, John H wrote:
On Fri, 8 Jul 2022 13:37:34 -0000 (UTC), Keyser Soze >>>>>>>>>>>>> <KeyserSoze@whitehouse.com> wrote:
345...@gmail.com <3452471@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thursday, July 7, 2022 at 4:53:42 PM UTC-4, Keyser Soze wrote:
Mr. Luddite <not...@noland.com> wrote:
On 7/7/2022 2:10 PM, gfre...@aol.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 7 Jul 2022 10:17:12 -0400, Keyser Söze >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <KeyserSöz...@whitehouse.com> wrote:
On 7/7/22 6:34 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 7/6/2022 3:51 PM, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, July 6, 2022 at 2:20:17 PM UTC-4, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gfre...@aol.com wrote:
On Wed, 6 Jul 2022 10:49:22 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <not...@noland.com>
wrote:
On 7/6/2022 10:38 AM, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, July 6, 2022 at 6:41:52 AM UTC-4, Mr. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Luddite wrote:
On 7/6/2022 1:42 AM, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, July 5, 2022 at 7:13:34 AM UTC-4, Mr. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Luddite wrote:
On 7/4/2022 4:02 PM, gfre...@aol.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 4 Jul 2022 06:55:57 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <not...@noland.com>
wrote:
On 7/3/2022 8:01 PM, gfre...@aol.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 3 Jul 2022 12:19:49 -0700 (PDT), >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Sunday, July 3, 2022 at 7:00:11 AM UTC-4, Mr.
Luddite wrote:
On 7/2/2022 4:53 PM, waynebatr...@hotmail.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
On Saturday, July 2, 2022 at 4:16:22 PM UTC-4,
gfre...@aol.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 2 Jul 2022 07:39:53 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
<not...@noland.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:===
On 7/1/2022 4:58 PM, gfre...@aol.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 1 Jul 2022 11:56:20 -0700 (PDT), >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>during
On Friday, July 1, 2022 at 2:27:15 PM UTC-4,
gfre...@aol.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 1 Jul 2022 09:33:30 -0700 (PDT), >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
===From an op-ed article by Mick Mulvaneywasn't >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> running in 2024, this >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whole witch hunt evaporates. De Santis may
in USA Today: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
It's quite likely that Trump attempted to
obstruct >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> justice, which may turn out to be the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> most serious, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and most provable crime he committed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> according to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mick Mulvaney, Director of the Office of
Management >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and Budget; White House Chief of Staff. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Per Mulvaney, such claims are the threat
Trump >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should be most worried about. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
He also described a former White House >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aide's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tuesday testimony as "eminently credible."
The former acting White House chief of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> staff Mick >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mulvaney wrote on Wednesday that in his >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> view the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> real threat to former President Donald >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trump was >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> evidence that might lead to accusations of
obstruction of justice. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Mulvaney wrote that he had previously >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> defended the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> former president against claims that he did
"anything illegal or criminal" in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> relation to the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Capitol riot. He said he was having >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> difficulty >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> maintaining that position, however, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> particularly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> after Hutchinson's testimony, which he >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> said he found >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "eminently credible." >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
"Because after some of the bombshells >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that got >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dropped in that hearing, my guess is that
things >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> could get very dark for the former >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> president," >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mulvaney wrote. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Mulvaney also said, though, that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tuesday's hearing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> revealed one real threat to Trump that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> didn't hinge >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on Hutchinson's words or credibility. "It
is the one >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that jumped out at me," he wrote. "And it
is the one >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that should most worry the former >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> president." >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
He referred to the evidence presented by
Rep. Liz >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheney of Wyoming toward the end of the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hearing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> consisting of two messages that January 6
panel >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> witnesses said they received before >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> giving their >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> depositions. The messages included >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> allusions to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> being a "team player" to "stay in the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> good graces in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trump world" as well as a reminder that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trump read >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> transcripts of interviews. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Mulvaney said that the implication behind
displaying >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the messages during the hearing was >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "crystal clear." >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
"The Jan. 6 committee members believe >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> evidence that people within the Trump >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> operation >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attempted to intimidate witnesses," >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mulvaney wrote. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "And that, any way you slice it, is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> obstruction of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> justice." >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What do you want to bet, if Trump said he
be taking >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that option away >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from him anyway. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
witch-hunt >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /?wiCH ?h?nt/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nounhistorical >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> noun: witch-hunt; plural noun: witch-hunts;
noun: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> witchhunt; plural noun: witchhunts >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
a) search for and subsequent persecution of
a supposed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> witch. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> b) informal: a campaign directed against a
person or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> group holding unorthodox or unpopular views.
I take some exception to your use of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "witch-hunt" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because of its implication of a search for
something >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that isn't real. In my mind, and the mind >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of many >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> others, Trump's criminality is very real. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The question >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is how best to prove it, and how best to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> punish it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not sure it's enough to just keep him >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from running >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in 2024 but that's a good start. I'd like >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to see his >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cult mystique with the right win sector of the
Republican party totally annihilated so >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that we never >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have to deal with his toxic influence again.
The whole process bothers me. Even you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> admit, the whole >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exercise is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> designed to prevent him from running again (two
impeachments, one >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> after he left office and now you are hanging
your hat >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on the 14th >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> amendment) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Isn't this supposed to be up to the voters?
Why are you folks so afraid of open and free
elections? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would much prefer that he simply gets >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clobbered in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the primaries by >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> margins too great to protest. De Santis is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> already >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chipping away at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> his base. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I still believe the risks of trying to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> charge this guy >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> over bullshit >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and the social upheaval it might cause is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not worth the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> risk for the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> slim chance you can get any kind of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> conviction by 2024. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The court would still be hearing motions by
then.
I mentioned before, Cruz is still in court >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for a school >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shooting in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2018 and it was a slam dunk against a kid >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with few >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> resources to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> present a defense. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trump may be a piece of shit but he is a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rich piece of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shit who has >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> always been surrounded by lawyers. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Even Biden the Bozo isn't blaming Trump for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> much anymore. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's all "Russia, Russia, Russia". >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Biden has to be a little careful or someone >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will point >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> out Russia was >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pretty quiet on Trump's watch. They got frisky
Obama's watch >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and started a war on Biden's watch. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Putin had Trump right where he wanted him and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> didn't want
to upset the balance. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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Ignorance is your savior.I haven't seen any documentation that Trump seriously made such an >>>>>>>> offer, especially in light of his urging on his thug followers to >>>>>>>> engage in armed insurrection of the capital and the hanging of Mike Pence.There is no record of former President Donald Trump officially >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> authorizingBiden has enough juice at DoJ to have them slow walk thisWhen I think of corruption I am not thinking bad >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> policies, etc.I would put the stick in the dirt when GHWB took >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> office and weCute.
It's obvious you have an intense dislike for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trump which is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> understandable. Based on your many posts about >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> him, your
dislike goes back a long ways ... back when he >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was in
private business and well before he ran for and
won the
Presidency.
But, if you can put that intense dislike and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bias aside for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a moment, do you really feel the USA is in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> better positions >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and conditions, economically, domestically and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> globally
today compared to four years ago?. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
===
The seeds of inflation were planted on Trump's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> watch with
the Quantitative Easing program. It helped to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> keep the
economy afloat during the Covid crisis but now >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> were paying
the price. The same can be said for the global >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> supply chain
crisis. Could Trump have done anything about it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if still in
office? Frankly I doubt it. He would have done a
good job of
blaming it on someone else however. That's his >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> special
talent. Does it not matter to you that he tried >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to overthrow
an election and obstruct the peaceful transfer of
power?
That is the bedrock of our democracy, and Trump >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reminds us
of how fragile it can be. The vast majority of the
electorate saw through his bluff, bluster and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bullshit in
the 2020 election and rightfully voted him out of
office.
For better or worse Biden was the only choice. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For that we
can thank the feckless Republican party who stood
by their
flawed candidate while the ship was burning. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
The Obama fiscal policy rewarded his rich >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contributors,
bankers and
Wall Street but it left the middle class >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> suffering. The more >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we hear
about who actually got the money the more pissed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people are.
They are
really just scratching the surface of the massive
fraud with
a few
small timers who got charged. The big players who
raked in
millions
and padded their bottom line with it, like >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> airlines are still >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> free to
do it again.
I have a hunch that history will record the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Obama/Biden years
as being
the most corrupt in modern times. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
have
suffered from bad leadership since. That is both on the
corporate and
government side. The corporations adopted a 90 day >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> window for
their
decision making, just trying to make good quarterly
numbers, not
really building anything and they were supported by
the same
mentality
in Washington. It was all about how Wall Street is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doing with
no real
concern with how things are going on Main Street, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what we do
next year
or how we will ever service the debt they incurred.
The Democrats
embraced Rubin, Summers, Geithner and Greenspan more
than the
Republicans.
We can complain about the American oligarchs like >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jobs, Bezos
and Musk
but at least they were building things. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Musk and Bezos are pretty frustrated with the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> government too.
I am thinking corruption in the sense of using the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> power and
influence of an elected office for personal financial
gains.
Biden is a perfect example of a smiling, career >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> politician who
has his
hand out everywhere. Hunter's laptop will eventually
do him in.
I don't think GWB was corrupt in this sense. You can
argue his
policies but there's no evidence anywhere of him >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> personally
gaining by them financially, at least not by plan. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
This will irk Wayne and Harry but neither did Trump.
--
===
I'm not irked at all, in fact I agree with you about >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> GWB. I think
the jury is still out on Biden but no one is more >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> corrupt than
Trump. It's in his genes. GWBs big failing was putting
too much
blind faith in Cheney and Rumsfeld.. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
I think the jury may be closer to a decision on Biden >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than you may
think.
Have you followed and considered any of the Hunter laptop
revelations or
have you chosen to ignore them as most of the liberal >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> press and media
has?
===
I've mostly ignored the Hunter allegations since he's justIf some of the allegations are true (I am not saying they
leveraging his family connections like so many others. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is Joe
responsible for the actions of his adult son? If Hunter
has broken
laws he should be prosecuted like anyone else. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
*are*) broken
laws may extend beyond Hunter. In fact, it could turn out
that Hunter
technically broke no laws but if his daddy shared >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> financially in his
business activities, especially when VP, this could >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> become a really
big legal issue.
thing until
he is out of office, then he hopes nobody will care. The >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> media largely
ignores this anyway. I suppose, if Trump is a precedent, a
GOP house
could still impeach him from his VP office, 10 years later.
===
Even in the unlikely event that Biden the senior did >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything illegal
as VP, the statute of limitations will have long since >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> expired. Let's
try to remember that this discussion is about Trump, whose
misdeeds
are current and ongoing. No one else in the history of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this country
has illegally tried to stay in power after losing a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> presidential
election. The illegality continues as he solicits millions in
donations under the false pretext that the election was >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stolen from him.
Wayne said:
"Let's try to remember that this discussion is about Trump,
whose
misdeeds are current and ongoing."
Given the record so far of his presidency, the discussion >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> really
*should* be about Biden. He's running out of people to blame.
Because, of course, when the Obama-Biden Admin came to an >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> end, Biden
asked his supporters to come to D.C., and plan and commit an
armed
insurrection against the House of Representatives and find >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> political
leaders and execute them.
Biden couldn't draw a big enough crowd to even scare the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> impotent Cap
Po.
If Trump organized an armed insurrection on Jan 6th as Wayne >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and Harry
claim why did he authorized and offer National Guard troops to
assist
Capital Police four days prior?
20,000 National Guard troops for the U.S. Capitol ahead of the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jan. 6,
2021, attack.
There is no evidence that House Speaker Nancy Pelosi denied such an
authorization, and experts said she doesn’t have the authority
to do so in
the first place.
A Vanity Fair report said Trump made a passing remark to his >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> acting defense
secretary about potentially needing 10,000 National Guard >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> troops, not
20,000. But there’s no evidence the comment was treated as a formal
authorization.
The ultra-liberal fake news rag Vanity Fair is not proof. That's
your go-to source?
There's no wonder you are so ill-informed.
Where is your written, official proof Shithead Trump formally >>>>>>>>>>>>>> authorized
national guard intervention?
Read, dipshit. This is much closer to 'proof' than any bullshit you've
posted:
https://mynbc15.com/news/nation-world/trump-admin-was-ready-to-deploy-national-guard-on-jan-6-capitol-police-timeline-shows-january-donald
A news report, shit for brains, is not written, official proof of a
government action. Might work for you and your moron buddies, but >>>>>>>>>>>> not in
the real world.
Your moron buddies do not have a clue how the chain of command works
if you think the president "formally requests" anything from the DCNG.
Maybe that is what happens when you successfully dodge the draft. >>>>>>>>>>
I wasn't the one making such a claim; I stated Trump made no such >>>>>>>>>> formal request. And it isn't my fault that you were too intellectually
lazy to get and keep a student deferment.
You have successfully obscured this discussion with semantics in order
to avoid answering the original question posed. Permit me to rephrase
it for your benefit:
"If Trump organized an armed insurrection on Jan 6th as Wayne and Harry
claim why did he offer National Guard troops to assist
Capital Police four days prior?"
Armed insurrection? Seems as if the only armed aggression was the Capital
Police!
The Cap Po had machine guns. The rioters had a few pointy flag sticks. >>>>> That is unarmed.
The only homicide came at the hands of the Cap Po.
Testimony at the hearings says some of the TrumpTrash was armed with
firearms. It's too bad the police didn't shoot a few dozen of the
insurrectionists.
"Testimony" at that witch hunt seems to be a lot of gossip that
wouldn't last 10 seconds in a courtroom but the congress lets it go on
On 7/10/22 1:14 PM, Bill wrote:2F99f75ab4481499aab953bee3ff59%2Fcolor-edit-toon-trump-on-nato-and-russia.jpg >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Keyser Söze <KeyserSöze@whitehouse.com> wrote:
On 7/10/22 12:38 PM, Bill wrote:
Keyser Söze <KeyserSöze@whitehouse.com> wrote:
On 7/10/22 12:13 PM, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
On Sun, 10 Jul 2022 08:12:47 -0400, Keyser Söze
<KeyserSöze@whitehouse.com> wrote:
On 7/9/22 8:23 PM, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
B/R & Behind TV On Sat, 9 Jul 2022 17:05:24 -0400, Keyser Söze >>>>>>>> <KeyserSöze@whitehouse.com> wrote:
On 7/9/22 2:22 PM, Bill wrote:
Keyser Söze <KeyserSöze@whitehouse.com> wrote:
On 7/9/22 2:10 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 7/9/2022 1:19 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 7/9/22 11:25 AM, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
On Sat, 9 Jul 2022 08:38:47 -0400, Keyser Söze
<KeyserSöze@whitehouse.com> wrote:
On 7/9/22 6:46 AM, John H wrote:
On Fri, 8 Jul 2022 13:37:34 -0000 (UTC), Keyser Soze >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <KeyserSoze@whitehouse.com> wrote:
345...@gmail.com <3452471@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, July 7, 2022 at 4:53:42 PM UTC-4, Keyser Soze wrote:
Mr. Luddite <not...@noland.com> wrote:
On 7/7/2022 2:10 PM, gfre...@aol.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 7 Jul 2022 10:17:12 -0400, Keyser Söze >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <KeyserSöz...@whitehouse.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
On 7/7/22 6:34 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/6/2022 3:51 PM, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, July 6, 2022 at 2:20:17 PM UTC-4, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gfre...@aol.com wrote:
On Wed, 6 Jul 2022 10:49:22 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <not...@noland.com>
wrote:
On 7/6/2022 10:38 AM, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote:
On Wednesday, July 6, 2022 at 6:41:52 AM UTC-4, Mr. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Luddite wrote:
On 7/6/2022 1:42 AM, waynebatr...@hotmail.com wrote:
On Tuesday, July 5, 2022 at 7:13:34 AM UTC-4, Mr. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Luddite wrote:
On 7/4/2022 4:02 PM, gfre...@aol.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 4 Jul 2022 06:55:57 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
<not...@noland.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
On 7/3/2022 8:01 PM, gfre...@aol.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 3 Jul 2022 12:19:49 -0700 (PDT), >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Sunday, July 3, 2022 at 7:00:11 AM UTC-4, Mr.
Luddite wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/2/2022 4:53 PM, waynebatr...@hotmail.com
wrote:
On Saturday, July 2, 2022 at 4:16:22 PM UTC-4,
gfre...@aol.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 2 Jul 2022 07:39:53 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
<not...@noland.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/1/2022 4:58 PM, gfre...@aol.com wrote:===
will point >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> out Russia was >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pretty quiet on Trump's watch. They got friskyOn Fri, 1 Jul 2022 11:56:20 -0700 (PDT),
"waynebatr...@hotmail.com" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Friday, July 1, 2022 at 2:27:15 PM UTC-4,
gfre...@aol.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 1 Jul 2022 09:33:30 -0700 (PDT),The whole process bothers me. Even you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> admit, the whole >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exercise is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> designed to prevent him from running again (two
"waynebatr...@hotmail.com" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From an op-ed article by Mick Mulvaneynoun: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> witchhunt; plural noun: witchhunts >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a) search for and subsequent persecution of
in USA Today: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's quite likely that Trump attempted towasn't >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> running in 2024, this >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whole witch hunt evaporates. De Santis may
obstruct >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> justice, which may turn out to be the
most serious, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and most provable crime he committed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> according to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mick Mulvaney, Director of the Office of
Management >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and Budget; White House Chief of Staff.
Trump >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should be most worried about. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He also described a former White HousePer Mulvaney, such claims are the threat
aide's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tuesday testimony as "eminently credible."
staff Mick >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mulvaney wrote on Wednesday that in hisThe former acting White House chief of
view the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> real threat to former President Donald
Trump was >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> evidence that might lead to accusations of
obstruction of justice. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mulvaney wrote that he had previously
defended the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> former president against claims that he did
"anything illegal or criminal" in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> relation to the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Capitol riot. He said he was having >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> difficulty >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> maintaining that position, however, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> particularly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> after Hutchinson's testimony, which he
said he found >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "eminently credible." >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Because after some of the bombshells
that got >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dropped in that hearing, my guess is that
things >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> could get very dark for the former >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> president," >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mulvaney wrote. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mulvaney also said, though, that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tuesday's hearing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> revealed one real threat to Trump that
didn't hinge >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on Hutchinson's words or credibility. "It
is the one >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that jumped out at me," he wrote. "And it
is the one >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that should most worry the former >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> president." >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He referred to the evidence presented by
Rep. Liz >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheney of Wyoming toward the end of the
hearing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> consisting of two messages that January 6
panel >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> witnesses said they received before >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> giving their >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> depositions. The messages included >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> allusions to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> being a "team player" to "stay in the
good graces in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trump world" as well as a reminder that
Trump read >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> transcripts of interviews. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mulvaney said that the implication behind
displaying >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the messages during the hearing was >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "crystal clear." >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "The Jan. 6 committee members believe
they have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> evidence that people within the Trump
operation >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attempted to intimidate witnesses," >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mulvaney wrote. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "And that, any way you slice it, is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> obstruction of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> justice." >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What do you want to bet, if Trump said he
be taking >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that option away >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from him anyway. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> === >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> witch-hunt >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /?wiCH ?h?nt/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nounhistorical >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> noun: witch-hunt; plural noun: witch-hunts;
a supposed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> witch. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> b) informal: a campaign directed against a
person or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> group holding unorthodox or unpopular views.
something >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that isn't real. In my mind, and the mindI take some exception to your use of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "witch-hunt" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because of its implication of a search for
of many >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> others, Trump's criminality is very real.
The question >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is how best to prove it, and how best to
punish it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not sure it's enough to just keep him
from running >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in 2024 but that's a good start. I'd like
to see his >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cult mystique with the right win sector of the
Republican party totally annihilated so
that we never >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have to deal with his toxic influence again.
impeachments, one >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> after he left office and now you are hanging
your hat >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on the 14th >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> amendment) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Isn't this supposed to be up to the voters?
Why are you folks so afraid of open and free
elections? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would much prefer that he simply gets >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clobbered in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the primaries by >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> margins too great to protest. De Santis is
already >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chipping away at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> his base. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I still believe the risks of trying to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> charge this guy >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> over bullshit >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and the social upheaval it might cause is
not worth the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> risk for the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> slim chance you can get any kind of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> conviction by 2024. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The court would still be hearing motions by
then. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I mentioned before, Cruz is still in court
for a school >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shooting in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2018 and it was a slam dunk against a kid
with few >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> resources to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> present a defense. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trump may be a piece of shit but he is a
rich piece of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shit who has >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> always been surrounded by lawyers. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Even Biden the Bozo isn't blaming Trump for
much anymore. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's all "Russia, Russia, Russia". >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Biden has to be a little careful or someone
during >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Obama's watch >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and started a war on Biden's watch. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Putin had Trump right where he wanted him and
didn't want >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to upset the balance. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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There is no record of former President Donald Trump officiallyBiden has enough juice at DoJ to have them slow walk thisWhen I think of corruption I am not thinking bad >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> policies, etc.I would put the stick in the dirt when GHWB tookCute.
It's obvious you have an intense dislike for
Trump which is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> understandable. Based on your many posts about
him, your >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dislike goes back a long ways ... back when he
was in
private business and well before he ran for and
won the
Presidency. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
But, if you can put that intense dislike and
bias aside for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a moment, do you really feel the USA is in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> better positions >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and conditions, economically, domestically and
globally >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> today compared to four years ago?. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
===
The seeds of inflation were planted on Trump's
watch with >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Quantitative Easing program. It helped to
keep the
economy afloat during the Covid crisis but now
were paying >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the price. The same can be said for the global
supply chain >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> crisis. Could Trump have done anything about it
if still in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> office? Frankly I doubt it. He would have done a
good job of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blaming it on someone else however. That's his
special
talent. Does it not matter to you that he tried
to overthrow >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> an election and obstruct the peaceful transfer of
power?
That is the bedrock of our democracy, and Trump
reminds us >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of how fragile it can be. The vast majority of the
electorate saw through his bluff, bluster and
bullshit in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the 2020 election and rightfully voted him out of
office.
For better or worse Biden was the only choice.
For that we >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can thank the feckless Republican party who stood
by their
flawed candidate while the ship was burning. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
The Obama fiscal policy rewarded his rich >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contributors, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bankers and
Wall Street but it left the middle class >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> suffering. The more >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we hear
about who actually got the money the more pissed
people are.
They are
really just scratching the surface of the massive
fraud with
a few
small timers who got charged. The big players who
raked in
millions
and padded their bottom line with it, like >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> airlines are still >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> free to
do it again. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
I have a hunch that history will record the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Obama/Biden years >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as being
the most corrupt in modern times. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
office and we
have
suffered from bad leadership since. That is both on the
corporate and
government side. The corporations adopted a 90 day
window for
their
decision making, just trying to make good quarterly
numbers, not
really building anything and they were supported by
the same
mentality
in Washington. It was all about how Wall Street is
doing with
no real
concern with how things are going on Main Street,
what we do
next year
or how we will ever service the debt they incurred.
The Democrats
embraced Rubin, Summers, Geithner and Greenspan more
than the
Republicans.
We can complain about the American oligarchs like
Jobs, Bezos
and Musk
but at least they were building things. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Musk and Bezos are pretty frustrated with the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> government too.
I am thinking corruption in the sense of using the
power and
influence of an elected office for personal financial
gains.
Biden is a perfect example of a smiling, career >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> politician who
has his
hand out everywhere. Hunter's laptop will eventually
do him in.
I don't think GWB was corrupt in this sense. You can
argue his
policies but there's no evidence anywhere of him >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> personally
gaining by them financially, at least not by plan.
This will irk Wayne and Harry but neither did Trump.
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I'm not irked at all, in fact I agree with you about
GWB. I think
the jury is still out on Biden but no one is more >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> corrupt than
Trump. It's in his genes. GWBs big failing was putting
too much
blind faith in Cheney and Rumsfeld.. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
I think the jury may be closer to a decision on Biden
than you may
think.
Have you followed and considered any of the Hunter laptop
revelations or
have you chosen to ignore them as most of the liberal
press and media
has?
===
I've mostly ignored the Hunter allegations since he's justIf some of the allegations are true (I am not saying they
leveraging his family connections like so many others.
Is Joe
responsible for the actions of his adult son? If Hunter
has broken
laws he should be prosecuted like anyone else. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
*are*) broken
laws may extend beyond Hunter. In fact, it could turn out
that Hunter
technically broke no laws but if his daddy shared >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> financially in his
business activities, especially when VP, this could >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> become a really
big legal issue.
thing until
he is out of office, then he hopes nobody will care. The
media largely
ignores this anyway. I suppose, if Trump is a precedent, a
GOP house
could still impeach him from his VP office, 10 years later.
===
Even in the unlikely event that Biden the senior did >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything illegal
as VP, the statute of limitations will have long since >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> expired. Let's
try to remember that this discussion is about Trump, whose
misdeeds
are current and ongoing. No one else in the history of
this country
has illegally tried to stay in power after losing a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> presidential
election. The illegality continues as he solicits millions in
donations under the false pretext that the election was
stolen from him.
Wayne said:
"Let's try to remember that this discussion is about Trump,
whose
misdeeds are current and ongoing." >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Given the record so far of his presidency, the discussion
really
*should* be about Biden. He's running out of people to blame.
Because, of course, when the Obama-Biden Admin came to an
end, Biden
asked his supporters to come to D.C., and plan and commit an
armed
insurrection against the House of Representatives and find
political
leaders and execute them.
Biden couldn't draw a big enough crowd to even scare the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> impotent Cap
Po.
If Trump organized an armed insurrection on Jan 6th as Wayne
and Harry
claim why did he authorized and offer National Guard troops to
assist
Capital Police four days prior?
authorizing
20,000 National Guard troops for the U.S. Capitol ahead of the
Jan. 6,
2021, attack.
There is no evidence that House Speaker Nancy Pelosi denied such an
authorization, and experts said she doesn’t have the authority
to do so in
the first place.
A Vanity Fair report said Trump made a passing remark to his
acting defense
secretary about potentially needing 10,000 National Guard >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> troops, not
20,000. But there’s no evidence the comment was treated as a formal
authorization.
The ultra-liberal fake news rag Vanity Fair is not proof. That's
your go-to source?
There's no wonder you are so ill-informed. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Where is your written, official proof Shithead Trump formally >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> authorized
national guard intervention?
Read, dipshit. This is much closer to 'proof' than any bullshit you've
posted:
https://mynbc15.com/news/nation-world/trump-admin-was-ready-to-deploy-national-guard-on-jan-6-capitol-police-timeline-shows-january-donald
A news report, shit for brains, is not written, official proof of a
government action. Might work for you and your moron buddies, but
not in
the real world.
Your moron buddies do not have a clue how the chain of command works
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