https://www.aol.com/finance/supreme-court-overturns-roe-v-162515728.html
Planned Parenthood will become a travel agency.
I suspect some states will cash in too. I can see sending your
daughter off to "Bible Camp Weekend" or something (whatever it takes
to satisfy your neighbors) and along the way she loses the baby.
A nice weekend in Tahoe might appeal to someone in trouble in Arizona
or Texas. If your employer and PP are footing the bill, why not?
For the employer, it is a whole lot cheaper than 8 weeks of paid
maternity leave and 18 years of family emergencies..
On Saturday, June 25, 2022 at 2:37:58 PM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote:their accidental children.
https://www.aol.com/finance/supreme-court-overturns-roe-v-162515728.html
Planned Parenthood will become a travel agency.
I suspect some states will cash in too. I can see sending your
daughter off to "Bible Camp Weekend" or something (whatever it takes
to satisfy your neighbors) and along the way she loses the baby.
A nice weekend in Tahoe might appeal to someone in trouble in Arizona
or Texas. If your employer and PP are footing the bill, why not?
For the employer, it is a whole lot cheaper than 8 weeks of paid
maternity leave and 18 years of family emergencies..
===
No doubt. The affluent and well connected have always been able to get abortions for their daughters. The problem lies elsewhere with people who can't afford all that. And as you have pointed out, society will ultimately pay for the upbringing of
On Saturday, June 25, 2022 at 2:37:58 PM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote:their accidental children.
https://www.aol.com/finance/supreme-court-overturns-roe-v-162515728.html
Planned Parenthood will become a travel agency.
I suspect some states will cash in too. I can see sending your
daughter off to "Bible Camp Weekend" or something (whatever it takes
to satisfy your neighbors) and along the way she loses the baby.
A nice weekend in Tahoe might appeal to someone in trouble in Arizona
or Texas. If your employer and PP are footing the bill, why not?
For the employer, it is a whole lot cheaper than 8 weeks of paid
maternity leave and 18 years of family emergencies..
===
No doubt. The affluent and well connected have always been able to get abortions for their daughters. The problem lies elsewhere with people who can't afford all that. And as you have pointed out, society will ultimately pay for the upbringing of
On Sat, 25 Jun 2022 15:38:54 -0700 (PDT),
"waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com" <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote:
On Saturday, June 25, 2022 at 2:37:58 PM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
https://www.aol.com/finance/supreme-court-overturns-roe-v-162515728.html >>>
Planned Parenthood will become a travel agency.
I suspect some states will cash in too. I can see sending your
daughter off to "Bible Camp Weekend" or something (whatever it takes
to satisfy your neighbors) and along the way she loses the baby.
A nice weekend in Tahoe might appeal to someone in trouble in Arizona
or Texas. If your employer and PP are footing the bill, why not?
For the employer, it is a whole lot cheaper than 8 weeks of paid
maternity leave and 18 years of family emergencies..
===
No doubt. The affluent and well connected have always been able to get
abortions for their daughters. The problem lies elsewhere with people
who can't afford all that. And as you have pointed out, society will
ultimately pay for the upbringing of their accidental children.
Dropping Dobbs a day after NYR&PA certainly got the gun thing off the
front page pretty fast. There are still a few gun grabbers out there
saying "But what about me". Unfortunately for them, the tear gas is
all being shot at abortion protestors right now and that is all
CNN/NBC wants to cover.
I wonder if the cops will shoot one of them?
I am still chewing my way through the decision but it appears Alito +4
wrote his based on the wording of the Constitution with lots of
references to prior cases on point and the laws of the several states
that address this.
Roberts wrote a separate opinion where he basically says Alito's
analysis is probably right but he still doesn't like throwing out Roe.
He does go into excruciating detail about "Viability" and questioning
if that kind of question even belongs before the court. He said that
is what regulatory agencies are for, sort of throwing a bone to guys
like me who say FDA could write something about this in the CFR
without even going to Congress.
Then he points out Mississippi pretty much demanded a complete
reversal of Roe when the issue was really viability and removing that language.
He was unhappy that they rolled over.
"Here, there is a clear path to deciding this case correctly
without overruling Roe all the way down to the studs: rec-
ognize that the viability line must be discarded, as the ma-
jority rightly does, and leave for another day whether to re-
ject any right to an abortion at all."
"The Court’s decision to overrule Roe and Casey is a seri-
ous jolt to the legal system—regardless of how you view
those cases. A narrower decision rejecting the misguided
viability line would be markedly less unsettling, and noth-
ing more is needed to decide this case".
It is true that Roe never actually conveyed the "right" to an abortion
so that wasn't litigated. Maybe that is where the DNC dominated
legislature should go, while they still have a half a chance but I am
sure it would die in the senate anyway. Obama had the chance when he
had a lock on the congress but he whiffed. It could have been buried
in ACA that the GOP never had a chance of defeating.
The dissent from Breyer, Sotomayor and Kagan
reads more like a rant on The View.
There is far more emotional hand wringing than simply the SCOTUS
addressing the underlying language in the Roe decision or the various
state laws and making a legal decision based on the law.
<gfretwell@aol.com> wrote:
On Sat, 25 Jun 2022 15:38:54 -0700 (PDT),
"waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com" <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote:
On Saturday, June 25, 2022 at 2:37:58 PM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
https://www.aol.com/finance/supreme-court-overturns-roe-v-162515728.html >>>>
Planned Parenthood will become a travel agency.
I suspect some states will cash in too. I can see sending your
daughter off to "Bible Camp Weekend" or something (whatever it takes
to satisfy your neighbors) and along the way she loses the baby.
A nice weekend in Tahoe might appeal to someone in trouble in Arizona
or Texas. If your employer and PP are footing the bill, why not?
For the employer, it is a whole lot cheaper than 8 weeks of paid
maternity leave and 18 years of family emergencies..
===
No doubt. The affluent and well connected have always been able to get
abortions for their daughters. The problem lies elsewhere with people
who can't afford all that. And as you have pointed out, society will
ultimately pay for the upbringing of their accidental children.
Dropping Dobbs a day after NYR&PA certainly got the gun thing off the
front page pretty fast. There are still a few gun grabbers out there
saying "But what about me". Unfortunately for them, the tear gas is
all being shot at abortion protestors right now and that is all
CNN/NBC wants to cover.
I wonder if the cops will shoot one of them?
I am still chewing my way through the decision but it appears Alito +4
wrote his based on the wording of the Constitution with lots of
references to prior cases on point and the laws of the several states
that address this.
Roberts wrote a separate opinion where he basically says Alito's
analysis is probably right but he still doesn't like throwing out Roe.
He does go into excruciating detail about "Viability" and questioning
if that kind of question even belongs before the court. He said that
is what regulatory agencies are for, sort of throwing a bone to guys
like me who say FDA could write something about this in the CFR
without even going to Congress.
Then he points out Mississippi pretty much demanded a complete
reversal of Roe when the issue was really viability and removing that
language.
He was unhappy that they rolled over.
"Here, there is a clear path to deciding this case correctly
without overruling Roe all the way down to the studs: rec-
ognize that the viability line must be discarded, as the ma-
jority rightly does, and leave for another day whether to re-
ject any right to an abortion at all."
"The Court’s decision to overrule Roe and Casey is a seri-
ous jolt to the legal system—regardless of how you view
those cases. A narrower decision rejecting the misguided
viability line would be markedly less unsettling, and noth-
ing more is needed to decide this case".
It is true that Roe never actually conveyed the "right" to an abortion
so that wasn't litigated. Maybe that is where the DNC dominated
legislature should go, while they still have a half a chance but I am
sure it would die in the senate anyway. Obama had the chance when he
had a lock on the congress but he whiffed. It could have been buried
in ACA that the GOP never had a chance of defeating.
The dissent from Breyer, Sotomayor and Kagan
reads more like a rant on The View.
There is far more emotional hand wringing than simply the SCOTUS
addressing the underlying language in the Roe decision or the various
state laws and making a legal decision based on the law.
An interesting follow up would be for the court to tell the FEDERAL >government to stay out of marriage. Could be tossed on a couple points. >Fed’s were not involved in marriage until the late 1800’s, when a Religious
based law was passed. The Fed’s only got involved when Morrill of Vermont >introduced the Morrill Act because of his hate for Mormons. Before that
was states defined marriage in their areas. And the Territories had no
laws regarding marriage. SCOTUS would then be hero’s to the LGBT people.
On Sat, 25 Jun 2022 15:38:54 -0700 (PDT),their accidental children.
"waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com" <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote:
On Saturday, June 25, 2022 at 2:37:58 PM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
https://www.aol.com/finance/supreme-court-overturns-roe-v-162515728.html >>>
Planned Parenthood will become a travel agency.
I suspect some states will cash in too. I can see sending your
daughter off to "Bible Camp Weekend" or something (whatever it takes
to satisfy your neighbors) and along the way she loses the baby.
A nice weekend in Tahoe might appeal to someone in trouble in Arizona
or Texas. If your employer and PP are footing the bill, why not?
For the employer, it is a whole lot cheaper than 8 weeks of paid
maternity leave and 18 years of family emergencies..
===
No doubt. The affluent and well connected have always been able to get abortions for their daughters. The problem lies elsewhere with people who can't afford all that. And as you have pointed out, society will ultimately pay for the upbringing of
I wonder what the market play is to cash in on the abortion travel
industry? If the democrats get their way it will be government
subsidized so somebody is going to get rich. Nothing is more expensive
than something that is "free".
On Saturday, June 25, 2022 at 2:37:58 PM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote:their accidental children.
https://www.aol.com/finance/supreme-court-overturns-roe-v-162515728.html
Planned Parenthood will become a travel agency.
I suspect some states will cash in too. I can see sending your
daughter off to "Bible Camp Weekend" or something (whatever it takes
to satisfy your neighbors) and along the way she loses the baby.
A nice weekend in Tahoe might appeal to someone in trouble in Arizona
or Texas. If your employer and PP are footing the bill, why not?
For the employer, it is a whole lot cheaper than 8 weeks of paid
maternity leave and 18 years of family emergencies..
===
No doubt. The affluent and well connected have always been able to get abortions for their daughters. The problem lies elsewhere with people who can't afford all that. And as you have pointed out, society will ultimately pay for the upbringing of
On Sunday, June 26, 2022 at 5:54:19 AM UTC-4, John H wrote:their accidental children.
On Sat, 25 Jun 2022 15:38:54 -0700 (PDT),
"waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Saturday, June 25, 2022 at 2:37:58 PM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
https://www.aol.com/finance/supreme-court-overturns-roe-v-162515728.html >> >>
Planned Parenthood will become a travel agency.
I suspect some states will cash in too. I can see sending your
daughter off to "Bible Camp Weekend" or something (whatever it takes
to satisfy your neighbors) and along the way she loses the baby.
A nice weekend in Tahoe might appeal to someone in trouble in Arizona
or Texas. If your employer and PP are footing the bill, why not?
For the employer, it is a whole lot cheaper than 8 weeks of paid
maternity leave and 18 years of family emergencies..
===
No doubt. The affluent and well connected have always been able to get abortions for their daughters. The problem lies elsewhere with people who can't afford all that. And as you have pointed out, society will ultimately pay for the upbringing of
Perhaps the addtion of problems in getting an abortion will have folks
tlhinking less of unprotected sex and more of contraception in the
first place. And, don't forget the morning after and abortion pills
which are still available.
There are lots of alternatives to abortion.
CNN had a young, single, black girl with three kids bemoaning the
fact that she missed the cutoff on the last kid. She seemed quite
intelligent, so I wondered why she didn't take the morning after pill,
or proctice birth control, or take the abortion pill in the first
place.
I have to admit I didn't feel sorry for her.
===
You and the rest of society will end up paying for her and the kids, probably for the rest of their lives. What's your remedy for that?
On Sat, 25 Jun 2022 15:38:54 -0700 (PDT),their accidental children.
"waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Saturday, June 25, 2022 at 2:37:58 PM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
https://www.aol.com/finance/supreme-court-overturns-roe-v-162515728.html >>
Planned Parenthood will become a travel agency.
I suspect some states will cash in too. I can see sending your
daughter off to "Bible Camp Weekend" or something (whatever it takes
to satisfy your neighbors) and along the way she loses the baby.
A nice weekend in Tahoe might appeal to someone in trouble in Arizona
or Texas. If your employer and PP are footing the bill, why not?
For the employer, it is a whole lot cheaper than 8 weeks of paid
maternity leave and 18 years of family emergencies..
===
No doubt. The affluent and well connected have always been able to get abortions for their daughters. The problem lies elsewhere with people who can't afford all that. And as you have pointed out, society will ultimately pay for the upbringing of
Perhaps the addtion of problems in getting an abortion will have folks tlhinking less of unprotected sex and more of contraception in the
first place. And, don't forget the morning after and abortion pills
which are still available.
There are lots of alternatives to abortion.
CNN had a young, single, black girl with three kids bemoaning the
fact that she missed the cutoff on the last kid. She seemed quite intelligent, so I wondered why she didn't take the morning after pill,
or proctice birth control, or take the abortion pill in the first
place.
I have to admit I didn't feel sorry for her.
On Sun, 26 Jun 2022 05:15:26 -0700 (PDT),their accidental children.
"waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com" <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sunday, June 26, 2022 at 5:54:19 AM UTC-4, John H wrote:
On Sat, 25 Jun 2022 15:38:54 -0700 (PDT),
"waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Saturday, June 25, 2022 at 2:37:58 PM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote: >>>>> https://www.aol.com/finance/supreme-court-overturns-roe-v-162515728.html >>>>>
Planned Parenthood will become a travel agency.
I suspect some states will cash in too. I can see sending your
daughter off to "Bible Camp Weekend" or something (whatever it takes >>>>> to satisfy your neighbors) and along the way she loses the baby.
A nice weekend in Tahoe might appeal to someone in trouble in Arizona >>>>> or Texas. If your employer and PP are footing the bill, why not?
For the employer, it is a whole lot cheaper than 8 weeks of paid
maternity leave and 18 years of family emergencies..
===
No doubt. The affluent and well connected have always been able to get abortions for their daughters. The problem lies elsewhere with people who can't afford all that. And as you have pointed out, society will ultimately pay for the upbringing of
Perhaps the addtion of problems in getting an abortion will have folks
tlhinking less of unprotected sex and more of contraception in the
first place. And, don't forget the morning after and abortion pills
which are still available.
There are lots of alternatives to abortion.
CNN had a young, single, black girl with three kids bemoaning the
fact that she missed the cutoff on the last kid. She seemed quite
intelligent, so I wondered why she didn't take the morning after pill,
or proctice birth control, or take the abortion pill in the first
place.
I have to admit I didn't feel sorry for her.
===
You and the rest of society will end up paying for her and the kids, probably for the rest of their lives. What's your remedy for that?
Sounds pretty racist to me!
I'd rather spend my tax dollars there than on the illegal aliens your president is imiporting to add democrat voters!
Based on FAIR’s most recent comprehensive fiscal cost study, illegal
aliens are likely imposing a net fiscal burden of at least $143.1
billion.[1] That’s an increase of approximately $9.4 billion over the
past year.
https://www.fairus.org/issue/illegal-immigration/2021-update-how-many-illegal-aliens-live-united-states
https://www.aol.com/finance/supreme-court-overturns-roe-v-162515728.html
Planned Parenthood will become a travel agency.
I suspect some states will cash in too. I can see sending your
daughter off to "Bible Camp Weekend" or something (whatever it takes
to satisfy your neighbors) and along the way she loses the baby.
A nice weekend in Tahoe might appeal to someone in trouble in Arizona
or Texas. If your employer and PP are footing the bill, why not?
For the employer, it is a whole lot cheaper than 8 weeks of paid
maternity leave and 18 years of family emergencies..
On Sat, 25 Jun 2022 15:38:54 -0700 (PDT),their accidental children.
"waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com" <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote:
On Saturday, June 25, 2022 at 2:37:58 PM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
https://www.aol.com/finance/supreme-court-overturns-roe-v-162515728.html >>>
Planned Parenthood will become a travel agency.
I suspect some states will cash in too. I can see sending your
daughter off to "Bible Camp Weekend" or something (whatever it takes
to satisfy your neighbors) and along the way she loses the baby.
A nice weekend in Tahoe might appeal to someone in trouble in Arizona
or Texas. If your employer and PP are footing the bill, why not?
For the employer, it is a whole lot cheaper than 8 weeks of paid
maternity leave and 18 years of family emergencies..
===
No doubt. The affluent and well connected have always been able to get abortions for their daughters. The problem lies elsewhere with people who can't afford all that. And as you have pointed out, society will ultimately pay for the upbringing of
I wonder what the market play is to cash in on the abortion travel
industry? If the democrats get their way it will be government
subsidized so somebody is going to get rich. Nothing is more expensive
than something that is "free".
On 6/26/22 8:24 AM, John H wrote:their accidental children.
On Sun, 26 Jun 2022 05:15:26 -0700 (PDT),
"waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com" <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sunday, June 26, 2022 at 5:54:19 AM UTC-4, John H wrote:
On Sat, 25 Jun 2022 15:38:54 -0700 (PDT),
"waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Saturday, June 25, 2022 at 2:37:58 PM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote: >>>>>> https://www.aol.com/finance/supreme-court-overturns-roe-v-162515728.html >>>>>>
Planned Parenthood will become a travel agency.
I suspect some states will cash in too. I can see sending your
daughter off to "Bible Camp Weekend" or something (whatever it takes >>>>>> to satisfy your neighbors) and along the way she loses the baby.
A nice weekend in Tahoe might appeal to someone in trouble in Arizona >>>>>> or Texas. If your employer and PP are footing the bill, why not?
For the employer, it is a whole lot cheaper than 8 weeks of paid
maternity leave and 18 years of family emergencies..
===
No doubt. The affluent and well connected have always been able to get abortions for their daughters. The problem lies elsewhere with people who can't afford all that. And as you have pointed out, society will ultimately pay for the upbringing of
Perhaps the addtion of problems in getting an abortion will have folks >>>> tlhinking less of unprotected sex and more of contraception in the
first place. And, don't forget the morning after and abortion pills
which are still available.
There are lots of alternatives to abortion.
CNN had a young, single, black girl with three kids bemoaning the
fact that she missed the cutoff on the last kid. She seemed quite
intelligent, so I wondered why she didn't take the morning after pill, >>>> or proctice birth control, or take the abortion pill in the first
place.
I have to admit I didn't feel sorry for her.
===
You and the rest of society will end up paying for her and the kids, probably for the rest of their lives. What's your remedy for that?
Sounds pretty racist to me!
I'd rather spend my tax dollars there than on the illegal aliens your
president is imiporting to add democrat voters!
Based on FAIR’s most recent comprehensive fiscal cost study, illegal
aliens are likely imposing a net fiscal burden of at least $143.1
billion.[1] That’s an increase of approximately $9.4 billion over the
past year.
https://www.fairus.org/issue/illegal-immigration/2021-update-how-many-illegal-aliens-live-united-states
Where are the "illegal aliens" voting in presidential elections? I'm
aware some nutcase right-wing sites have made claims of such, but aside
from those...?
On 6/25/2022 10:15 PM, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:their accidental children.
On Sat, 25 Jun 2022 15:38:54 -0700 (PDT),
"waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com" <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote:
On Saturday, June 25, 2022 at 2:37:58 PM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
https://www.aol.com/finance/supreme-court-overturns-roe-v-162515728.html >>>>
Planned Parenthood will become a travel agency.
I suspect some states will cash in too. I can see sending your
daughter off to "Bible Camp Weekend" or something (whatever it takes
to satisfy your neighbors) and along the way she loses the baby.
A nice weekend in Tahoe might appeal to someone in trouble in Arizona
or Texas. If your employer and PP are footing the bill, why not?
For the employer, it is a whole lot cheaper than 8 weeks of paid
maternity leave and 18 years of family emergencies..
===
No doubt. The affluent and well connected have always been able to get abortions for their daughters. The problem lies elsewhere with people who can't afford all that. And as you have pointed out, society will ultimately pay for the upbringing of
I wonder what the market play is to cash in on the abortion travel
industry? If the democrats get their way it will be government
subsidized so somebody is going to get rich. Nothing is more expensive
than something that is "free".
A growing number of major corporations have announced that they will
pay travel costs and, in some cases, the cost of the abortion itself
to employees who want to get one.
In the long run it's less expensive to the company
than having to pay for maternity leave and child care expenses.
On Sun, 26 Jun 2022 09:04:54 -0400, Keyser Söze <KeyserSöze@whitehouse.com> wrote:their accidental children.
On 6/26/22 8:24 AM, John H wrote:
On Sun, 26 Jun 2022 05:15:26 -0700 (PDT),
"waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com" <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sunday, June 26, 2022 at 5:54:19 AM UTC-4, John H wrote:
On Sat, 25 Jun 2022 15:38:54 -0700 (PDT),
"waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Saturday, June 25, 2022 at 2:37:58 PM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote: >>>>>>> https://www.aol.com/finance/supreme-court-overturns-roe-v-162515728.html
Planned Parenthood will become a travel agency.
I suspect some states will cash in too. I can see sending your
daughter off to "Bible Camp Weekend" or something (whatever it takes >>>>>>> to satisfy your neighbors) and along the way she loses the baby. >>>>>>> A nice weekend in Tahoe might appeal to someone in trouble in Arizona >>>>>>> or Texas. If your employer and PP are footing the bill, why not? >>>>>>> For the employer, it is a whole lot cheaper than 8 weeks of paid >>>>>>> maternity leave and 18 years of family emergencies..
===
No doubt. The affluent and well connected have always been able to get abortions for their daughters. The problem lies elsewhere with people who can't afford all that. And as you have pointed out, society will ultimately pay for the upbringing of
Ah, just another of your racist political wet dreams...Perhaps the addtion of problems in getting an abortion will have folks >>>>> tlhinking less of unprotected sex and more of contraception in the
first place. And, don't forget the morning after and abortion pills
which are still available.
There are lots of alternatives to abortion.
CNN had a young, single, black girl with three kids bemoaning the
fact that she missed the cutoff on the last kid. She seemed quite
intelligent, so I wondered why she didn't take the morning after pill, >>>>> or proctice birth control, or take the abortion pill in the first
place.
I have to admit I didn't feel sorry for her.
===
You and the rest of society will end up paying for her and the kids, probably for the rest of their lives. What's your remedy for that?
Sounds pretty racist to me!
I'd rather spend my tax dollars there than on the illegal aliens your
president is imiporting to add democrat voters!
Based on FAIR’s most recent comprehensive fiscal cost study, illegal
aliens are likely imposing a net fiscal burden of at least $143.1
billion.[1] That’s an increase of approximately $9.4 billion over the
past year.
https://www.fairus.org/issue/illegal-immigration/2021-update-how-many-illegal-aliens-live-united-states
Where are the "illegal aliens" voting in presidential elections? I'm
aware some nutcase right-wing sites have made claims of such, but aside >>from those...?
The future is coming, dummy!
On 6/26/22 8:24 AM, John H wrote:their accidental children.
On Sun, 26 Jun 2022 05:15:26 -0700 (PDT),
"waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sunday, June 26, 2022 at 5:54:19 AM UTC-4, John H wrote:
On Sat, 25 Jun 2022 15:38:54 -0700 (PDT),
"waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Saturday, June 25, 2022 at 2:37:58 PM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote: >>>>> https://www.aol.com/finance/supreme-court-overturns-roe-v-162515728.html
Planned Parenthood will become a travel agency.
I suspect some states will cash in too. I can see sending your
daughter off to "Bible Camp Weekend" or something (whatever it takes >>>>> to satisfy your neighbors) and along the way she loses the baby.
A nice weekend in Tahoe might appeal to someone in trouble in Arizona >>>>> or Texas. If your employer and PP are footing the bill, why not?
For the employer, it is a whole lot cheaper than 8 weeks of paid
maternity leave and 18 years of family emergencies..
===
No doubt. The affluent and well connected have always been able to get abortions for their daughters. The problem lies elsewhere with people who can't afford all that. And as you have pointed out, society will ultimately pay for the upbringing of
Perhaps the addtion of problems in getting an abortion will have folks >>> tlhinking less of unprotected sex and more of contraception in the
first place. And, don't forget the morning after and abortion pills
which are still available.
There are lots of alternatives to abortion.
CNN had a young, single, black girl with three kids bemoaning the
fact that she missed the cutoff on the last kid. She seemed quite
intelligent, so I wondered why she didn't take the morning after pill, >>> or proctice birth control, or take the abortion pill in the first
place.
I have to admit I didn't feel sorry for her.
===
You and the rest of society will end up paying for her and the kids, probably for the rest of their lives. What's your remedy for that?
Sounds pretty racist to me!
I'd rather spend my tax dollars there than on the illegal aliens your president is imiporting to add democrat voters!
Based on FAIR’s most recent comprehensive fiscal cost study, illegal aliens are likely imposing a net fiscal burden of at least $143.1 billion.[1] That’s an increase of approximately $9.4 billion over the past year.
https://www.fairus.org/issue/illegal-immigration/2021-update-how-many-illegal-aliens-live-united-statesWhere are the "illegal aliens" voting in presidential elections? I'm
aware some nutcase right-wing sites have made claims of such, but aside
from those...?
On Sunday, June 26, 2022 at 9:04:58 AM UTC-4, Keyser Söze wrote:their accidental children.
On 6/26/22 8:24 AM, John H wrote:
On Sun, 26 Jun 2022 05:15:26 -0700 (PDT),
"waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sunday, June 26, 2022 at 5:54:19 AM UTC-4, John H wrote:
On Sat, 25 Jun 2022 15:38:54 -0700 (PDT),
"waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Saturday, June 25, 2022 at 2:37:58 PM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote: >> >>>>> https://www.aol.com/finance/supreme-court-overturns-roe-v-162515728.html
Planned Parenthood will become a travel agency.
I suspect some states will cash in too. I can see sending your
daughter off to "Bible Camp Weekend" or something (whatever it takes >> >>>>> to satisfy your neighbors) and along the way she loses the baby.
A nice weekend in Tahoe might appeal to someone in trouble in Arizona >> >>>>> or Texas. If your employer and PP are footing the bill, why not?
For the employer, it is a whole lot cheaper than 8 weeks of paid
maternity leave and 18 years of family emergencies..
===
No doubt. The affluent and well connected have always been able to get abortions for their daughters. The problem lies elsewhere with people who can't afford all that. And as you have pointed out, society will ultimately pay for the upbringing of
Where are the "illegal aliens" voting in presidential elections? I'mPerhaps the addtion of problems in getting an abortion will have folks >> >>> tlhinking less of unprotected sex and more of contraception in the
first place. And, don't forget the morning after and abortion pills
which are still available.
There are lots of alternatives to abortion.
CNN had a young, single, black girl with three kids bemoaning the
fact that she missed the cutoff on the last kid. She seemed quite
intelligent, so I wondered why she didn't take the morning after pill, >> >>> or proctice birth control, or take the abortion pill in the first
place.
I have to admit I didn't feel sorry for her.
===
You and the rest of society will end up paying for her and the kids, probably for the rest of their lives. What's your remedy for that?
Sounds pretty racist to me!
I'd rather spend my tax dollars there than on the illegal aliens your
president is imiporting to add democrat voters!
Based on FAIR’s most recent comprehensive fiscal cost study, illegal
aliens are likely imposing a net fiscal burden of at least $143.1
billion.[1] That’s an increase of approximately $9.4 billion over the
past year.
https://www.fairus.org/issue/illegal-immigration/2021-update-how-many-illegal-aliens-live-united-states
aware some nutcase right-wing sites have made claims of such, but aside
from those...?
Since left-wing heads explode anytime you mention requiring a valid ID to be able to cast a vote, how would you even know if there are undocumented aliens voting?
On 6/26/22 8:24 AM, John H wrote:
On Sun, 26 Jun 2022 05:15:26 -0700 (PDT),
"waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com" <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sunday, June 26, 2022 at 5:54:19 AM UTC-4, John H wrote:
On Sat, 25 Jun 2022 15:38:54 -0700 (PDT),
"waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Saturday, June 25, 2022 at 2:37:58 PM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote: >>>>>> https://www.aol.com/finance/supreme-court-overturns-roe-v-162515728.html >>>>>>Perhaps the addtion of problems in getting an abortion will have folks >>>> tlhinking less of unprotected sex and more of contraception in the
Planned Parenthood will become a travel agency.
I suspect some states will cash in too. I can see sending your
daughter off to "Bible Camp Weekend" or something (whatever it takes >>>>>> to satisfy your neighbors) and along the way she loses the baby.
A nice weekend in Tahoe might appeal to someone in trouble in Arizona >>>>>> or Texas. If your employer and PP are footing the bill, why not?
For the employer, it is a whole lot cheaper than 8 weeks of paid
maternity leave and 18 years of family emergencies..
===
No doubt. The affluent and well connected have always been able to
get abortions for their daughters. The problem lies elsewhere with
people who can't afford all that. And as you have pointed out,
society will ultimately pay for the upbringing of their accidental children.
first place. And, don't forget the morning after and abortion pills
which are still available.
There are lots of alternatives to abortion.
CNN had a young, single, black girl with three kids bemoaning the
fact that she missed the cutoff on the last kid. She seemed quite
intelligent, so I wondered why she didn't take the morning after pill, >>>> or proctice birth control, or take the abortion pill in the first
place.
I have to admit I didn't feel sorry for her.
===
You and the rest of society will end up paying for her and the kids,
probably for the rest of their lives. What's your remedy for that?
Sounds pretty racist to me!
I'd rather spend my tax dollars there than on the illegal aliens your
president is imiporting to add democrat voters!
Based on FAIR’s most recent comprehensive fiscal cost study, illegal
aliens are likely imposing a net fiscal burden of at least $143.1
billion.[1] That’s an increase of approximately $9.4 billion over the
past year.
https://www.fairus.org/issue/illegal-immigration/2021-update-how-many-illegal-aliens-live-united-states
Where are the "illegal aliens" voting in presidential elections? I'm
aware some nutcase right-wing sites have made claims of such, but aside
from those...?
On 6/25/2022 10:15 PM, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
On Sat, 25 Jun 2022 15:38:54 -0700 (PDT),
"waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com" <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote:
On Saturday, June 25, 2022 at 2:37:58 PM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
https://www.aol.com/finance/supreme-court-overturns-roe-v-162515728.html >>>>
Planned Parenthood will become a travel agency.
I suspect some states will cash in too. I can see sending your
daughter off to "Bible Camp Weekend" or something (whatever it takes
to satisfy your neighbors) and along the way she loses the baby.
A nice weekend in Tahoe might appeal to someone in trouble in Arizona
or Texas. If your employer and PP are footing the bill, why not?
For the employer, it is a whole lot cheaper than 8 weeks of paid
maternity leave and 18 years of family emergencies..
===
No doubt. The affluent and well connected have always been able to get
abortions for their daughters. The problem lies elsewhere with people
who can't afford all that. And as you have pointed out, society will
ultimately pay for the upbringing of their accidental children.
I wonder what the market play is to cash in on the abortion travel
industry? If the democrats get their way it will be government
subsidized so somebody is going to get rich. Nothing is more expensive
than something that is "free".
A growing number of major corporations have announced that they will
pay travel costs and, in some cases, the cost of the abortion itself
to employees who want to get one.
In the long run it's less expensive to the company
than having to pay for maternity leave and child care expenses.
On 6/26/22 8:24 AM, John H wrote:their accidental children.
On Sun, 26 Jun 2022 05:15:26 -0700 (PDT),
"waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com" <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sunday, June 26, 2022 at 5:54:19 AM UTC-4, John H wrote:
On Sat, 25 Jun 2022 15:38:54 -0700 (PDT),
"waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Saturday, June 25, 2022 at 2:37:58 PM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote: >>>>>> https://www.aol.com/finance/supreme-court-overturns-roe-v-162515728.html >>>>>>
Planned Parenthood will become a travel agency.
I suspect some states will cash in too. I can see sending your
daughter off to "Bible Camp Weekend" or something (whatever it takes >>>>>> to satisfy your neighbors) and along the way she loses the baby.
A nice weekend in Tahoe might appeal to someone in trouble in Arizona >>>>>> or Texas. If your employer and PP are footing the bill, why not?
For the employer, it is a whole lot cheaper than 8 weeks of paid
maternity leave and 18 years of family emergencies..
===
No doubt. The affluent and well connected have always been able to get abortions for their daughters. The problem lies elsewhere with people who can't afford all that. And as you have pointed out, society will ultimately pay for the upbringing of
Perhaps the addtion of problems in getting an abortion will have folks >>>> tlhinking less of unprotected sex and more of contraception in the
first place. And, don't forget the morning after and abortion pills
which are still available.
There are lots of alternatives to abortion.
CNN had a young, single, black girl with three kids bemoaning the
fact that she missed the cutoff on the last kid. She seemed quite
intelligent, so I wondered why she didn't take the morning after pill, >>>> or proctice birth control, or take the abortion pill in the first
place.
I have to admit I didn't feel sorry for her.
===
You and the rest of society will end up paying for her and the kids, probably for the rest of their lives. What's your remedy for that?
Sounds pretty racist to me!
I'd rather spend my tax dollars there than on the illegal aliens your
president is imiporting to add democrat voters!
Based on FAIR’s most recent comprehensive fiscal cost study, illegal
aliens are likely imposing a net fiscal burden of at least $143.1
billion.[1] That’s an increase of approximately $9.4 billion over the
past year.
https://www.fairus.org/issue/illegal-immigration/2021-update-how-many-illegal-aliens-live-united-states
Where are the "illegal aliens" voting in presidential elections? I'm
aware some nutcase right-wing sites have made claims of such, but aside
from those...?
On Sunday, June 26, 2022 at 5:54:19 AM UTC-4, John H wrote:their accidental children.
On Sat, 25 Jun 2022 15:38:54 -0700 (PDT),
"waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Saturday, June 25, 2022 at 2:37:58 PM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
https://www.aol.com/finance/supreme-court-overturns-roe-v-162515728.html >> >>
Planned Parenthood will become a travel agency.
I suspect some states will cash in too. I can see sending your
daughter off to "Bible Camp Weekend" or something (whatever it takes
to satisfy your neighbors) and along the way she loses the baby.
A nice weekend in Tahoe might appeal to someone in trouble in Arizona
or Texas. If your employer and PP are footing the bill, why not?
For the employer, it is a whole lot cheaper than 8 weeks of paid
maternity leave and 18 years of family emergencies..
===
No doubt. The affluent and well connected have always been able to get abortions for their daughters. The problem lies elsewhere with people who can't afford all that. And as you have pointed out, society will ultimately pay for the upbringing of
Perhaps the addtion of problems in getting an abortion will have folks
tlhinking less of unprotected sex and more of contraception in the
first place. And, don't forget the morning after and abortion pills
which are still available.
There are lots of alternatives to abortion.
CNN had a young, single, black girl with three kids bemoaning the
fact that she missed the cutoff on the last kid. She seemed quite
intelligent, so I wondered why she didn't take the morning after pill,
or proctice birth control, or take the abortion pill in the first
place.
I have to admit I didn't feel sorry for her.
===
You and the rest of society will end up paying for her and the kids, probably for the rest of their lives. What's your remedy for that?
On Sat, 25 Jun 2022 22:15:32 -0400, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:their accidental children.
On Sat, 25 Jun 2022 15:38:54 -0700 (PDT),
"waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com" <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote:
On Saturday, June 25, 2022 at 2:37:58 PM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
https://www.aol.com/finance/supreme-court-overturns-roe-v-162515728.html >>>>
Planned Parenthood will become a travel agency.
I suspect some states will cash in too. I can see sending your
daughter off to "Bible Camp Weekend" or something (whatever it takes
to satisfy your neighbors) and along the way she loses the baby.
A nice weekend in Tahoe might appeal to someone in trouble in Arizona
or Texas. If your employer and PP are footing the bill, why not?
For the employer, it is a whole lot cheaper than 8 weeks of paid
maternity leave and 18 years of family emergencies..
===
No doubt. The affluent and well connected have always been able to get abortions for their daughters. The problem lies elsewhere with people who can't afford all that. And as you have pointed out, society will ultimately pay for the upbringing of
I wonder what the market play is to cash in on the abortion travel >>industry? If the democrats get their way it will be government
subsidized so somebody is going to get rich. Nothing is more expensive
than something that is "free".
Maybe the increased cost of getting an abortion out of state will
cause an increase in the use of contraceptives or pills to stop the >pregnancy.
On 6/25/2022 2:37 PM, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
https://www.aol.com/finance/supreme-court-overturns-roe-v-162515728.html
Planned Parenthood will become a travel agency.
I suspect some states will cash in too. I can see sending your
daughter off to "Bible Camp Weekend" or something (whatever it takes
to satisfy your neighbors) and along the way she loses the baby.
A nice weekend in Tahoe might appeal to someone in trouble in Arizona
or Texas. If your employer and PP are footing the bill, why not?
For the employer, it is a whole lot cheaper than 8 weeks of paid
maternity leave and 18 years of family emergencies..
If abortions have become a "right" and pretty
much a norm in our society, why do those and the families
of those seeking one feel it must be covered up with
phony excuses and stories?
On 6/25/2022 10:15 PM, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:their accidental children.
On Sat, 25 Jun 2022 15:38:54 -0700 (PDT),
"waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com" <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote:
On Saturday, June 25, 2022 at 2:37:58 PM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
https://www.aol.com/finance/supreme-court-overturns-roe-v-162515728.html >>>>
Planned Parenthood will become a travel agency.
I suspect some states will cash in too. I can see sending your
daughter off to "Bible Camp Weekend" or something (whatever it takes
to satisfy your neighbors) and along the way she loses the baby.
A nice weekend in Tahoe might appeal to someone in trouble in Arizona
or Texas. If your employer and PP are footing the bill, why not?
For the employer, it is a whole lot cheaper than 8 weeks of paid
maternity leave and 18 years of family emergencies..
===
No doubt. The affluent and well connected have always been able to get abortions for their daughters. The problem lies elsewhere with people who can't afford all that. And as you have pointed out, society will ultimately pay for the upbringing of
I wonder what the market play is to cash in on the abortion travel
industry? If the democrats get their way it will be government
subsidized so somebody is going to get rich. Nothing is more expensive
than something that is "free".
A growing number of major corporations have announced that they will
pay travel costs and, in some cases, the cost of the abortion itself
to employees who want to get one.
In the long run it's less expensive to the company
than having to pay for maternity leave and child care expenses.
Perhaps the addtion of problems in getting an abortion will have folks >tlhinking less of unprotected sex and more of contraception in the
first place. And, don't forget the morning after and abortion pills
which are still available.
There are lots of alternatives to abortion.
Mr. Luddite <nothere@noland.com> wrote:
On 6/25/2022 10:15 PM, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
On Sat, 25 Jun 2022 15:38:54 -0700 (PDT),
"waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com" <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote:
On Saturday, June 25, 2022 at 2:37:58 PM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote: >>>>> https://www.aol.com/finance/supreme-court-overturns-roe-v-162515728.html >>>>>
Planned Parenthood will become a travel agency.
I suspect some states will cash in too. I can see sending your
daughter off to "Bible Camp Weekend" or something (whatever it takes >>>>> to satisfy your neighbors) and along the way she loses the baby.
A nice weekend in Tahoe might appeal to someone in trouble in Arizona >>>>> or Texas. If your employer and PP are footing the bill, why not?
For the employer, it is a whole lot cheaper than 8 weeks of paid
maternity leave and 18 years of family emergencies..
===
No doubt. The affluent and well connected have always been able to get >>>> abortions for their daughters. The problem lies elsewhere with people >>>> who can't afford all that. And as you have pointed out, society will
ultimately pay for the upbringing of their accidental children.
I wonder what the market play is to cash in on the abortion travel
industry? If the democrats get their way it will be government
subsidized so somebody is going to get rich. Nothing is more expensive
than something that is "free".
A growing number of major corporations have announced that they will
pay travel costs and, in some cases, the cost of the abortion itself
to employees who want to get one.
In the long run it's less expensive to the company
than having to pay for maternity leave and child care expenses.
The court did not say abortion was illegal, just that it was not a Federal >item.
On Sun, 26 Jun 2022 09:04:54 -0400, Keyser Söze<KeyserSöze@whitehouse.com> wrote:>On 6/26/22 8:24 AM, John H wrote:>> On Sun, 26 Jun 2022 05:15:26 -0700 (PDT),>> "waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com" <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote:>> >>> On Sunday,June 26, 2022 at 5:54:19 AM UTC-4, John H wrote:>>>> On Sat, 25 Jun 2022 15:38:54 -0700 (PDT),>>>> "waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:>>>>> On Saturday, June 25, 2022 at 2:37:58 PM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote:>>>>>> https://www.aol.
On Sun, 26 Jun 2022 05:57:39 -0400, John H <jherring@cox.net> wrote:their accidental children.
On Sat, 25 Jun 2022 22:15:32 -0400, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
On Sat, 25 Jun 2022 15:38:54 -0700 (PDT), >>>"waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com" <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote:
On Saturday, June 25, 2022 at 2:37:58 PM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote: >>>>> https://www.aol.com/finance/supreme-court-overturns-roe-v-162515728.html >>>>>
Planned Parenthood will become a travel agency.
I suspect some states will cash in too. I can see sending your
daughter off to "Bible Camp Weekend" or something (whatever it takes >>>>> to satisfy your neighbors) and along the way she loses the baby.
A nice weekend in Tahoe might appeal to someone in trouble in Arizona >>>>> or Texas. If your employer and PP are footing the bill, why not?
For the employer, it is a whole lot cheaper than 8 weeks of paid
maternity leave and 18 years of family emergencies..
===
No doubt. The affluent and well connected have always been able to get abortions for their daughters. The problem lies elsewhere with people who can't afford all that. And as you have pointed out, society will ultimately pay for the upbringing of
I wonder what the market play is to cash in on the abortion travel >>>industry? If the democrats get their way it will be government
subsidized so somebody is going to get rich. Nothing is more expensive >>>than something that is "free".
Maybe the increased cost of getting an abortion out of state will
cause an increase in the use of contraceptives or pills to stop the >>pregnancy.
No it will just add to the overall cost of health care.
On Sun, 26 Jun 2022 05:15:26 -0700 (PDT),their accidental children.
"waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com" <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sunday, June 26, 2022 at 5:54:19 AM UTC-4, John H wrote:
On Sat, 25 Jun 2022 15:38:54 -0700 (PDT),
"waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Saturday, June 25, 2022 at 2:37:58 PM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
https://www.aol.com/finance/supreme-court-overturns-roe-v-162515728.html >>> >>
Planned Parenthood will become a travel agency.
I suspect some states will cash in too. I can see sending your
daughter off to "Bible Camp Weekend" or something (whatever it takes
to satisfy your neighbors) and along the way she loses the baby.
A nice weekend in Tahoe might appeal to someone in trouble in Arizona >>> >> or Texas. If your employer and PP are footing the bill, why not?
For the employer, it is a whole lot cheaper than 8 weeks of paid
maternity leave and 18 years of family emergencies..
===
No doubt. The affluent and well connected have always been able to get abortions for their daughters. The problem lies elsewhere with people who can't afford all that. And as you have pointed out, society will ultimately pay for the upbringing of
Perhaps the addtion of problems in getting an abortion will have folks
tlhinking less of unprotected sex and more of contraception in the
first place. And, don't forget the morning after and abortion pills
which are still available.
There are lots of alternatives to abortion.
CNN had a young, single, black girl with three kids bemoaning the
fact that she missed the cutoff on the last kid. She seemed quite
intelligent, so I wondered why she didn't take the morning after pill,
or proctice birth control, or take the abortion pill in the first
place.
I have to admit I didn't feel sorry for her.
===
You and the rest of society will end up paying for her and the kids, probably for the rest of their lives. What's your remedy for that?
"Force a 15 year old to have a baby, you destroy 2 lives."
-GF years ago.
On Sun, 26 Jun 2022 05:54:16 -0400, John H <jherring@cox.net> wrote:
Perhaps the addtion of problems in getting an abortion will have folks >>tlhinking less of unprotected sex and more of contraception in the
first place. And, don't forget the morning after and abortion pills
which are still available.
There are lots of alternatives to abortion.
Clarence is coming after contraception too.
On Mon, 27 Jun 2022 02:32:46 -0400, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
On Sun, 26 Jun 2022 05:57:39 -0400, John H <jherring@cox.net> wrote:
On Sat, 25 Jun 2022 22:15:32 -0400, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
On Sat, 25 Jun 2022 15:38:54 -0700 (PDT),
"waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com" <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote:
On Saturday, June 25, 2022 at 2:37:58 PM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote: >>>>>> https://www.aol.com/finance/supreme-court-overturns-roe-v-162515728.html >>>>>>
Planned Parenthood will become a travel agency.
I suspect some states will cash in too. I can see sending your
daughter off to "Bible Camp Weekend" or something (whatever it takes >>>>>> to satisfy your neighbors) and along the way she loses the baby.
A nice weekend in Tahoe might appeal to someone in trouble in Arizona >>>>>> or Texas. If your employer and PP are footing the bill, why not?
For the employer, it is a whole lot cheaper than 8 weeks of paid
maternity leave and 18 years of family emergencies..
===
No doubt. The affluent and well connected have always been able to
get abortions for their daughters. The problem lies elsewhere with
people who can't afford all that. And as you have pointed out,
society will ultimately pay for the upbringing of their accidental children.
I wonder what the market play is to cash in on the abortion travel
industry? If the democrats get their way it will be government
subsidized so somebody is going to get rich. Nothing is more expensive >>>> than something that is "free".
Maybe the increased cost of getting an abortion out of state will
cause an increase in the use of contraceptives or pills to stop the
pregnancy.
No it will just add to the overall cost of health care.
Because folks will not make use of contraceptives or pills to stop the pregnancy? Then they deserve to pay more.
On Mon, 27 Jun 2022 02:32:46 -0400, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:their accidental children.
On Sun, 26 Jun 2022 05:57:39 -0400, John H <jherring@cox.net> wrote:
On Sat, 25 Jun 2022 22:15:32 -0400, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
On Sat, 25 Jun 2022 15:38:54 -0700 (PDT), >>>>"waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com" <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote:
On Saturday, June 25, 2022 at 2:37:58 PM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote: >>>>>> https://www.aol.com/finance/supreme-court-overturns-roe-v-162515728.html >>>>>>
Planned Parenthood will become a travel agency.
I suspect some states will cash in too. I can see sending your
daughter off to "Bible Camp Weekend" or something (whatever it takes >>>>>> to satisfy your neighbors) and along the way she loses the baby.
A nice weekend in Tahoe might appeal to someone in trouble in Arizona >>>>>> or Texas. If your employer and PP are footing the bill, why not?
For the employer, it is a whole lot cheaper than 8 weeks of paid
maternity leave and 18 years of family emergencies..
===
No doubt. The affluent and well connected have always been able to get abortions for their daughters. The problem lies elsewhere with people who can't afford all that. And as you have pointed out, society will ultimately pay for the upbringing of
I wonder what the market play is to cash in on the abortion travel >>>>industry? If the democrats get their way it will be government >>>>subsidized so somebody is going to get rich. Nothing is more expensive >>>>than something that is "free".
Maybe the increased cost of getting an abortion out of state will
cause an increase in the use of contraceptives or pills to stop the >>>pregnancy.
No it will just add to the overall cost of health care.
Because folks will not make use of contraceptives or pills to stop the >pregnancy? Then they deserve to pay more.
On Mon, 27 Jun 2022 02:34:48 -0400, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:their accidental children.
On Sun, 26 Jun 2022 05:15:26 -0700 (PDT),
"waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com" <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sunday, June 26, 2022 at 5:54:19 AM UTC-4, John H wrote:
On Sat, 25 Jun 2022 15:38:54 -0700 (PDT),
"waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Saturday, June 25, 2022 at 2:37:58 PM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote: >>>> >> https://www.aol.com/finance/supreme-court-overturns-roe-v-162515728.html
Planned Parenthood will become a travel agency.
I suspect some states will cash in too. I can see sending your
daughter off to "Bible Camp Weekend" or something (whatever it takes >>>> >> to satisfy your neighbors) and along the way she loses the baby.
A nice weekend in Tahoe might appeal to someone in trouble in Arizona >>>> >> or Texas. If your employer and PP are footing the bill, why not?
For the employer, it is a whole lot cheaper than 8 weeks of paid
maternity leave and 18 years of family emergencies..
===
No doubt. The affluent and well connected have always been able to get abortions for their daughters. The problem lies elsewhere with people who can't afford all that. And as you have pointed out, society will ultimately pay for the upbringing of
Perhaps the addtion of problems in getting an abortion will have folks >>>> tlhinking less of unprotected sex and more of contraception in the
first place. And, don't forget the morning after and abortion pills
which are still available.
There are lots of alternatives to abortion.
CNN had a young, single, black girl with three kids bemoaning the
fact that she missed the cutoff on the last kid. She seemed quite
intelligent, so I wondered why she didn't take the morning after pill, >>>> or proctice birth control, or take the abortion pill in the first
place.
I have to admit I didn't feel sorry for her.
===
You and the rest of society will end up paying for her and the kids, probably for the rest of their lives. What's your remedy for that?
"Force a 15 year old to have a baby, you destroy 2 lives."
-GF years ago.
Who's doing the forcing? There are many alternatives for a 15
year-old.
On Mon, 27 Jun 2022 02:32:46 -0400, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:of their accidental children.
On Sun, 26 Jun 2022 05:57:39 -0400, John H <jherring@cox.net> wrote:
On Sat, 25 Jun 2022 22:15:32 -0400, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
On Sat, 25 Jun 2022 15:38:54 -0700 (PDT),
"waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com" <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote:
On Saturday, June 25, 2022 at 2:37:58 PM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote: >>>>>> https://www.aol.com/finance/supreme-court-overturns-roe-v-162515728.html >>>>>>
Planned Parenthood will become a travel agency.
I suspect some states will cash in too. I can see sending your
daughter off to "Bible Camp Weekend" or something (whatever it takes >>>>>> to satisfy your neighbors) and along the way she loses the baby.
A nice weekend in Tahoe might appeal to someone in trouble in Arizona >>>>>> or Texas. If your employer and PP are footing the bill, why not?
For the employer, it is a whole lot cheaper than 8 weeks of paid
maternity leave and 18 years of family emergencies..
===
No doubt. The affluent and well connected have always been able to get abortions for their daughters. The problem lies elsewhere with people who can't afford all that. And as you have pointed out, society will ultimately pay for the upbringing
I wonder what the market play is to cash in on the abortion travel
industry? If the democrats get their way it will be government
subsidized so somebody is going to get rich. Nothing is more expensive >>>> than something that is "free".
Maybe the increased cost of getting an abortion out of state will
cause an increase in the use of contraceptives or pills to stop the
pregnancy.
No it will just add to the overall cost of health care.
Because folks will not make use of contraceptives or pills to stop the pregnancy? Then they deserve to pay more.
On Mon, 27 Jun 2022 07:12:03 -0400, John H <jherring@cox.net> wrote:their accidental children.
On Mon, 27 Jun 2022 02:34:48 -0400, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
On Sun, 26 Jun 2022 05:15:26 -0700 (PDT), >>>"waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com" <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sunday, June 26, 2022 at 5:54:19 AM UTC-4, John H wrote:
On Sat, 25 Jun 2022 15:38:54 -0700 (PDT),
"waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Saturday, June 25, 2022 at 2:37:58 PM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote: >>>>> >> https://www.aol.com/finance/supreme-court-overturns-roe-v-162515728.html
Planned Parenthood will become a travel agency.
I suspect some states will cash in too. I can see sending your
daughter off to "Bible Camp Weekend" or something (whatever it takes >>>>> >> to satisfy your neighbors) and along the way she loses the baby.
A nice weekend in Tahoe might appeal to someone in trouble in Arizona >>>>> >> or Texas. If your employer and PP are footing the bill, why not?
For the employer, it is a whole lot cheaper than 8 weeks of paid
maternity leave and 18 years of family emergencies..
===
No doubt. The affluent and well connected have always been able to get abortions for their daughters. The problem lies elsewhere with people who can't afford all that. And as you have pointed out, society will ultimately pay for the upbringing of
Perhaps the addtion of problems in getting an abortion will have folks >>>>> tlhinking less of unprotected sex and more of contraception in the
first place. And, don't forget the morning after and abortion pills
which are still available.
There are lots of alternatives to abortion.
CNN had a young, single, black girl with three kids bemoaning the
fact that she missed the cutoff on the last kid. She seemed quite
intelligent, so I wondered why she didn't take the morning after pill, >>>>> or proctice birth control, or take the abortion pill in the first
place.
I have to admit I didn't feel sorry for her.
===
You and the rest of society will end up paying for her and the kids, probably for the rest of their lives. What's your remedy for that?
"Force a 15 year old to have a baby, you destroy 2 lives."
-GF years ago.
Who's doing the forcing? There are many alternatives for a 15
year-old.
Not in Texas, Mississippi, Louisiana and the other 10 states that
passed trigger laws in anticipation of Roe getting tossed.
On Mon, 27 Jun 2022 15:09:12 -0400, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:their accidental children.
On Mon, 27 Jun 2022 07:12:03 -0400, John H <jherring@cox.net> wrote:
On Mon, 27 Jun 2022 02:34:48 -0400, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
On Sun, 26 Jun 2022 05:15:26 -0700 (PDT), >>>>"waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com" <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sunday, June 26, 2022 at 5:54:19 AM UTC-4, John H wrote:
On Sat, 25 Jun 2022 15:38:54 -0700 (PDT),
"waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Saturday, June 25, 2022 at 2:37:58 PM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote: >>>>>> >> https://www.aol.com/finance/supreme-court-overturns-roe-v-162515728.html
Planned Parenthood will become a travel agency.
I suspect some states will cash in too. I can see sending your
daughter off to "Bible Camp Weekend" or something (whatever it takes >>>>>> >> to satisfy your neighbors) and along the way she loses the baby. >>>>>> >> A nice weekend in Tahoe might appeal to someone in trouble in Arizona >>>>>> >> or Texas. If your employer and PP are footing the bill, why not? >>>>>> >> For the employer, it is a whole lot cheaper than 8 weeks of paid >>>>>> >> maternity leave and 18 years of family emergencies..
===
No doubt. The affluent and well connected have always been able to get abortions for their daughters. The problem lies elsewhere with people who can't afford all that. And as you have pointed out, society will ultimately pay for the upbringing of
Perhaps the addtion of problems in getting an abortion will have folks >>>>>> tlhinking less of unprotected sex and more of contraception in the >>>>>> first place. And, don't forget the morning after and abortion pills >>>>>> which are still available.
There are lots of alternatives to abortion.
CNN had a young, single, black girl with three kids bemoaning the
fact that she missed the cutoff on the last kid. She seemed quite
intelligent, so I wondered why she didn't take the morning after pill, >>>>>> or proctice birth control, or take the abortion pill in the first
place.
I have to admit I didn't feel sorry for her.
===
You and the rest of society will end up paying for her and the kids, probably for the rest of their lives. What's your remedy for that?
"Force a 15 year old to have a baby, you destroy 2 lives."
-GF years ago.
Who's doing the forcing? There are many alternatives for a 15
year-old.
Not in Texas, Mississippi, Louisiana and the other 10 states that
passed trigger laws in anticipation of Roe getting tossed.
There are still many alternatives to abortion. Let's get Planned
Parenthood back in the business of *planning* parenthood.
On Wed, 29 Jun 2022 06:02:47 -0400, John H <jherring@cox.net> wrote:of their accidental children.
On Mon, 27 Jun 2022 15:09:12 -0400, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
On Mon, 27 Jun 2022 07:12:03 -0400, John H <jherring@cox.net> wrote:
On Mon, 27 Jun 2022 02:34:48 -0400, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
On Sun, 26 Jun 2022 05:15:26 -0700 (PDT), >>>>>"waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com" <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sunday, June 26, 2022 at 5:54:19 AM UTC-4, John H wrote:
On Sat, 25 Jun 2022 15:38:54 -0700 (PDT),
"waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Saturday, June 25, 2022 at 2:37:58 PM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote: >>>>>>> >> https://www.aol.com/finance/supreme-court-overturns-roe-v-162515728.html
Planned Parenthood will become a travel agency.
I suspect some states will cash in too. I can see sending your >>>>>>> >> daughter off to "Bible Camp Weekend" or something (whatever it takes >>>>>>> >> to satisfy your neighbors) and along the way she loses the baby. >>>>>>> >> A nice weekend in Tahoe might appeal to someone in trouble in Arizona
or Texas. If your employer and PP are footing the bill, why not? >>>>>>> >> For the employer, it is a whole lot cheaper than 8 weeks of paid >>>>>>> >> maternity leave and 18 years of family emergencies..
===
No doubt. The affluent and well connected have always been able to get abortions for their daughters. The problem lies elsewhere with people who can't afford all that. And as you have pointed out, society will ultimately pay for the upbringing
Perhaps the addtion of problems in getting an abortion will have folks >>>>>>> tlhinking less of unprotected sex and more of contraception in the >>>>>>> first place. And, don't forget the morning after and abortion pills >>>>>>> which are still available.
There are lots of alternatives to abortion.
CNN had a young, single, black girl with three kids bemoaning the >>>>>>> fact that she missed the cutoff on the last kid. She seemed quite >>>>>>> intelligent, so I wondered why she didn't take the morning after pill, >>>>>>> or proctice birth control, or take the abortion pill in the first >>>>>>> place.
I have to admit I didn't feel sorry for her.
===
You and the rest of society will end up paying for her and the kids, probably for the rest of their lives. What's your remedy for that?
"Force a 15 year old to have a baby, you destroy 2 lives."
-GF years ago.
Who's doing the forcing? There are many alternatives for a 15
year-old.
Not in Texas, Mississippi, Louisiana and the other 10 states that
passed trigger laws in anticipation of Roe getting tossed.
There are still many alternatives to abortion. Let's get Planned
Parenthood back in the business of *planning* parenthood.
That list is pretty short in Tupelo Mississippi if you are knocked up
and too poor to raise a<nother> baby.
Yeah "shoulda" "coulda" "woulda" is easy for an old white guy in
Northern Virginia but the world is full of people who fuck up. You
want them to reproduce.
BTW "5 weeks" is ridiculous. Most women don't even know they are
pregnant by then and tests may still come back negative if they are.
Then they might wait 3 more weeks to be sure. (2 missed periods).
On Wed, 29 Jun 2022 23:45:19 -0400, gfre...@aol.com wrote:of their accidental children.
On Wed, 29 Jun 2022 06:02:47 -0400, John H <jher...@cox.net> wrote:
On Mon, 27 Jun 2022 15:09:12 -0400, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
On Mon, 27 Jun 2022 07:12:03 -0400, John H <jher...@cox.net> wrote:
On Mon, 27 Jun 2022 02:34:48 -0400, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
On Sun, 26 Jun 2022 05:15:26 -0700 (PDT), >>>>>"waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sunday, June 26, 2022 at 5:54:19 AM UTC-4, John H wrote:
On Sat, 25 Jun 2022 15:38:54 -0700 (PDT),
"waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Saturday, June 25, 2022 at 2:37:58 PM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
https://www.aol.com/finance/supreme-court-overturns-roe-v-162515728.html
Planned Parenthood will become a travel agency.
I suspect some states will cash in too. I can see sending your >>>>>>> >> daughter off to "Bible Camp Weekend" or something (whatever it takes
to satisfy your neighbors) and along the way she loses the baby. >>>>>>> >> A nice weekend in Tahoe might appeal to someone in trouble in Arizona
or Texas. If your employer and PP are footing the bill, why not? >>>>>>> >> For the employer, it is a whole lot cheaper than 8 weeks of paid >>>>>>> >> maternity leave and 18 years of family emergencies..
===
No doubt. The affluent and well connected have always been able to get abortions for their daughters. The problem lies elsewhere with people who can't afford all that. And as you have pointed out, society will ultimately pay for the upbringing
Perhaps the addtion of problems in getting an abortion will have folks
tlhinking less of unprotected sex and more of contraception in the >>>>>>> first place. And, don't forget the morning after and abortion pills >>>>>>> which are still available.
There are lots of alternatives to abortion.
CNN had a young, single, black girl with three kids bemoaning the >>>>>>> fact that she missed the cutoff on the last kid. She seemed quite >>>>>>> intelligent, so I wondered why she didn't take the morning after pill,
or proctice birth control, or take the abortion pill in the first >>>>>>> place.
I have to admit I didn't feel sorry for her.
===
You and the rest of society will end up paying for her and the kids, probably for the rest of their lives. What's your remedy for that?
"Force a 15 year old to have a baby, you destroy 2 lives."
-GF years ago.
Who's doing the forcing? There are many alternatives for a 15 >>>>year-old.
Not in Texas, Mississippi, Louisiana and the other 10 states that >>>passed trigger laws in anticipation of Roe getting tossed.
There are still many alternatives to abortion. Let's get Planned >>Parenthood back in the business of *planning* parenthood.
That list is pretty short in Tupelo Mississippi if you are knocked upIf I were a promiscuous young lady and lived in Mississippi, I'd be
and too poor to raise a<nother> baby.
Yeah "shoulda" "coulda" "woulda" is easy for an old white guy in
Northern Virginia but the world is full of people who fuck up. You
want them to reproduce.
BTW "5 weeks" is ridiculous. Most women don't even know they are
pregnant by then and tests may still come back negative if they are.
Then they might wait 3 more weeks to be sure. (2 missed periods).
looking into contraception. It's not like planned parenthood places
are hard to find:
https://www.yellowpages.com/tupelo-ms/planned-parenthood
On Thursday, June 30, 2022 at 7:02:28 AM UTC-4, John H wrote:upbringing of their accidental children.
On Wed, 29 Jun 2022 23:45:19 -0400, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jun 2022 06:02:47 -0400, John H <jher...@cox.net> wrote:
On Mon, 27 Jun 2022 15:09:12 -0400, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
On Mon, 27 Jun 2022 07:12:03 -0400, John H <jher...@cox.net> wrote:
On Mon, 27 Jun 2022 02:34:48 -0400, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
On Sun, 26 Jun 2022 05:15:26 -0700 (PDT),
"waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sunday, June 26, 2022 at 5:54:19 AM UTC-4, John H wrote:
On Sat, 25 Jun 2022 15:38:54 -0700 (PDT),
"waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Saturday, June 25, 2022 at 2:37:58 PM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
https://www.aol.com/finance/supreme-court-overturns-roe-v-162515728.html
Planned Parenthood will become a travel agency.
I suspect some states will cash in too. I can see sending your
daughter off to "Bible Camp Weekend" or something (whatever it takes
to satisfy your neighbors) and along the way she loses the baby. >> >>>>>>> >> A nice weekend in Tahoe might appeal to someone in trouble in Arizona
or Texas. If your employer and PP are footing the bill, why not? >> >>>>>>> >> For the employer, it is a whole lot cheaper than 8 weeks of paid >> >>>>>>> >> maternity leave and 18 years of family emergencies..
===
No doubt. The affluent and well connected have always been able to get abortions for their daughters. The problem lies elsewhere with people who can't afford all that. And as you have pointed out, society will ultimately pay for the
If I were a promiscuous young lady and lived in Mississippi, I'd bePerhaps the addtion of problems in getting an abortion will have folks
tlhinking less of unprotected sex and more of contraception in the >> >>>>>>> first place. And, don't forget the morning after and abortion pills >> >>>>>>> which are still available.
There are lots of alternatives to abortion.
CNN had a young, single, black girl with three kids bemoaning the
fact that she missed the cutoff on the last kid. She seemed quite
intelligent, so I wondered why she didn't take the morning after pill,
or proctice birth control, or take the abortion pill in the first
place.
I have to admit I didn't feel sorry for her.
===
You and the rest of society will end up paying for her and the kids, probably for the rest of their lives. What's your remedy for that?
"Force a 15 year old to have a baby, you destroy 2 lives."
-GF years ago.
Who's doing the forcing? There are many alternatives for a 15
year-old.
Not in Texas, Mississippi, Louisiana and the other 10 states that
passed trigger laws in anticipation of Roe getting tossed.
There are still many alternatives to abortion. Let's get Planned
Parenthood back in the business of *planning* parenthood.
That list is pretty short in Tupelo Mississippi if you are knocked up
and too poor to raise a<nother> baby.
Yeah "shoulda" "coulda" "woulda" is easy for an old white guy in
Northern Virginia but the world is full of people who fuck up. You
want them to reproduce.
BTW "5 weeks" is ridiculous. Most women don't even know they are
pregnant by then and tests may still come back negative if they are.
Then they might wait 3 more weeks to be sure. (2 missed periods).
looking into contraception. It's not like planned parenthood places
are hard to find:
https://www.yellowpages.com/tupelo-ms/planned-parenthood
===
As would anyone else who is coming from a comfortable, educated, middle class background. The typical abortion seeker is none of that.
On Wed, 29 Jun 2022 23:45:19 -0400, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:of their accidental children.
On Wed, 29 Jun 2022 06:02:47 -0400, John H <jherring@cox.net> wrote:
On Mon, 27 Jun 2022 15:09:12 -0400, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
On Mon, 27 Jun 2022 07:12:03 -0400, John H <jherring@cox.net> wrote:
On Mon, 27 Jun 2022 02:34:48 -0400, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
On Sun, 26 Jun 2022 05:15:26 -0700 (PDT), >>>>>>"waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com" <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>
On Sunday, June 26, 2022 at 5:54:19 AM UTC-4, John H wrote:
On Sat, 25 Jun 2022 15:38:54 -0700 (PDT),
"waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Saturday, June 25, 2022 at 2:37:58 PM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
https://www.aol.com/finance/supreme-court-overturns-roe-v-162515728.html
Planned Parenthood will become a travel agency.
I suspect some states will cash in too. I can see sending your >>>>>>>> >> daughter off to "Bible Camp Weekend" or something (whatever it takes
to satisfy your neighbors) and along the way she loses the baby. >>>>>>>> >> A nice weekend in Tahoe might appeal to someone in trouble in Arizona
or Texas. If your employer and PP are footing the bill, why not? >>>>>>>> >> For the employer, it is a whole lot cheaper than 8 weeks of paid >>>>>>>> >> maternity leave and 18 years of family emergencies..
===
No doubt. The affluent and well connected have always been able to get abortions for their daughters. The problem lies elsewhere with people who can't afford all that. And as you have pointed out, society will ultimately pay for the upbringing
Perhaps the addtion of problems in getting an abortion will have folks >>>>>>>> tlhinking less of unprotected sex and more of contraception in the >>>>>>>> first place. And, don't forget the morning after and abortion pills >>>>>>>> which are still available.
There are lots of alternatives to abortion.
CNN had a young, single, black girl with three kids bemoaning the >>>>>>>> fact that she missed the cutoff on the last kid. She seemed quite >>>>>>>> intelligent, so I wondered why she didn't take the morning after pill, >>>>>>>> or proctice birth control, or take the abortion pill in the first >>>>>>>> place.
I have to admit I didn't feel sorry for her.
===
You and the rest of society will end up paying for her and the kids, probably for the rest of their lives. What's your remedy for that?
"Force a 15 year old to have a baby, you destroy 2 lives."
-GF years ago.
Who's doing the forcing? There are many alternatives for a 15 >>>>>year-old.
Not in Texas, Mississippi, Louisiana and the other 10 states that >>>>passed trigger laws in anticipation of Roe getting tossed.
There are still many alternatives to abortion. Let's get Planned >>>Parenthood back in the business of *planning* parenthood.
That list is pretty short in Tupelo Mississippi if you are knocked up
and too poor to raise a<nother> baby.
Yeah "shoulda" "coulda" "woulda" is easy for an old white guy in
Northern Virginia but the world is full of people who fuck up. You
want them to reproduce.
BTW "5 weeks" is ridiculous. Most women don't even know they are
pregnant by then and tests may still come back negative if they are.
Then they might wait 3 more weeks to be sure. (2 missed periods).
If I were a promiscuous young lady and lived in Mississippi, I'd be
looking into contraception. It's not like planned parenthood places
are hard to find:
https://www.yellowpages.com/tupelo-ms/planned-parenthood
On Thursday, June 30, 2022 at 7:02:28 AM UTC-4, John H wrote:upbringing of their accidental children.
On Wed, 29 Jun 2022 23:45:19 -0400, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jun 2022 06:02:47 -0400, John H <jher...@cox.net> wrote:
On Mon, 27 Jun 2022 15:09:12 -0400, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
On Mon, 27 Jun 2022 07:12:03 -0400, John H <jher...@cox.net> wrote:
On Mon, 27 Jun 2022 02:34:48 -0400, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
On Sun, 26 Jun 2022 05:15:26 -0700 (PDT),
"waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sunday, June 26, 2022 at 5:54:19 AM UTC-4, John H wrote:
On Sat, 25 Jun 2022 15:38:54 -0700 (PDT),
"waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Saturday, June 25, 2022 at 2:37:58 PM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
https://www.aol.com/finance/supreme-court-overturns-roe-v-162515728.html
Planned Parenthood will become a travel agency.
I suspect some states will cash in too. I can see sending your
daughter off to "Bible Camp Weekend" or something (whatever it takes
to satisfy your neighbors) and along the way she loses the baby. >> >>>>>>> >> A nice weekend in Tahoe might appeal to someone in trouble in Arizona
or Texas. If your employer and PP are footing the bill, why not? >> >>>>>>> >> For the employer, it is a whole lot cheaper than 8 weeks of paid >> >>>>>>> >> maternity leave and 18 years of family emergencies..
===
No doubt. The affluent and well connected have always been able to get abortions for their daughters. The problem lies elsewhere with people who can't afford all that. And as you have pointed out, society will ultimately pay for the
If I were a promiscuous young lady and lived in Mississippi, I'd bePerhaps the addtion of problems in getting an abortion will have folks
tlhinking less of unprotected sex and more of contraception in the >> >>>>>>> first place. And, don't forget the morning after and abortion pills >> >>>>>>> which are still available.
There are lots of alternatives to abortion.
CNN had a young, single, black girl with three kids bemoaning the
fact that she missed the cutoff on the last kid. She seemed quite
intelligent, so I wondered why she didn't take the morning after pill,
or proctice birth control, or take the abortion pill in the first
place.
I have to admit I didn't feel sorry for her.
===
You and the rest of society will end up paying for her and the kids, probably for the rest of their lives. What's your remedy for that?
"Force a 15 year old to have a baby, you destroy 2 lives."
-GF years ago.
Who's doing the forcing? There are many alternatives for a 15
year-old.
Not in Texas, Mississippi, Louisiana and the other 10 states that
passed trigger laws in anticipation of Roe getting tossed.
There are still many alternatives to abortion. Let's get Planned
Parenthood back in the business of *planning* parenthood.
That list is pretty short in Tupelo Mississippi if you are knocked up
and too poor to raise a<nother> baby.
Yeah "shoulda" "coulda" "woulda" is easy for an old white guy in
Northern Virginia but the world is full of people who fuck up. You
want them to reproduce.
BTW "5 weeks" is ridiculous. Most women don't even know they are
pregnant by then and tests may still come back negative if they are.
Then they might wait 3 more weeks to be sure. (2 missed periods).
looking into contraception. It's not like planned parenthood places
are hard to find:
https://www.yellowpages.com/tupelo-ms/planned-parenthood
===
As would anyone else who is coming from a comfortable, educated, middle class background. The typical abortion seeker is none of that.
On Thu, 30 Jun 2022 07:02:25 -0400, John H <jherring@cox.net> wrote:of their accidental children.
On Wed, 29 Jun 2022 23:45:19 -0400, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jun 2022 06:02:47 -0400, John H <jherring@cox.net> wrote:
On Mon, 27 Jun 2022 15:09:12 -0400, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
On Mon, 27 Jun 2022 07:12:03 -0400, John H <jherring@cox.net> wrote:
On Mon, 27 Jun 2022 02:34:48 -0400, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
On Sun, 26 Jun 2022 05:15:26 -0700 (PDT), >>>>>>>"waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com" <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>
On Sunday, June 26, 2022 at 5:54:19 AM UTC-4, John H wrote:
On Sat, 25 Jun 2022 15:38:54 -0700 (PDT),
"waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Saturday, June 25, 2022 at 2:37:58 PM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
https://www.aol.com/finance/supreme-court-overturns-roe-v-162515728.html
Planned Parenthood will become a travel agency.
I suspect some states will cash in too. I can see sending your >>>>>>>>> >> daughter off to "Bible Camp Weekend" or something (whatever it takes
to satisfy your neighbors) and along the way she loses the baby. >>>>>>>>> >> A nice weekend in Tahoe might appeal to someone in trouble in Arizona
or Texas. If your employer and PP are footing the bill, why not? >>>>>>>>> >> For the employer, it is a whole lot cheaper than 8 weeks of paid >>>>>>>>> >> maternity leave and 18 years of family emergencies..
===
No doubt. The affluent and well connected have always been able to get abortions for their daughters. The problem lies elsewhere with people who can't afford all that. And as you have pointed out, society will ultimately pay for the upbringing
Perhaps the addtion of problems in getting an abortion will have folks
tlhinking less of unprotected sex and more of contraception in the >>>>>>>>> first place. And, don't forget the morning after and abortion pills >>>>>>>>> which are still available.
There are lots of alternatives to abortion.
CNN had a young, single, black girl with three kids bemoaning the >>>>>>>>> fact that she missed the cutoff on the last kid. She seemed quite >>>>>>>>> intelligent, so I wondered why she didn't take the morning after pill,
or proctice birth control, or take the abortion pill in the first >>>>>>>>> place.
I have to admit I didn't feel sorry for her.
===
You and the rest of society will end up paying for her and the kids, probably for the rest of their lives. What's your remedy for that?
"Force a 15 year old to have a baby, you destroy 2 lives."
-GF years ago.
Who's doing the forcing? There are many alternatives for a 15 >>>>>>year-old.
Not in Texas, Mississippi, Louisiana and the other 10 states that >>>>>passed trigger laws in anticipation of Roe getting tossed.
There are still many alternatives to abortion. Let's get Planned >>>>Parenthood back in the business of *planning* parenthood.
That list is pretty short in Tupelo Mississippi if you are knocked up
and too poor to raise a<nother> baby.
Yeah "shoulda" "coulda" "woulda" is easy for an old white guy in >>>Northern Virginia but the world is full of people who fuck up. You
want them to reproduce.
BTW "5 weeks" is ridiculous. Most women don't even know they are
pregnant by then and tests may still come back negative if they are.
Then they might wait 3 more weeks to be sure. (2 missed periods).
If I were a promiscuous young lady and lived in Mississippi, I'd be
looking into contraception. It's not like planned parenthood places
are hard to find:
https://www.yellowpages.com/tupelo-ms/planned-parenthood
We are talking about when hose things fail and they do or when a girl
simply does not use them. Kids do dumb shit.
Should that be a life sentence to poverty?
On Thu, 30 Jun 2022 07:02:25 -0400, John H <jherring@cox.net> wrote:>On Wed, 29 Jun 2022 23:45:19 -0400, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:>>>On Wed, 29 Jun 2022 06:02:47 -0400, John H <jherring@cox.net> wrote:>>>>>On Mon, 27 Jun 2022 15:09:12 -0400, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:>>>>>>>On Mon, 27 Jun 2022 07:12:03 -0400, John H <jherring@cox.net> wrote:>>>>>>>>>On Mon, 27 Jun 2022 02:34:48 -0400, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 26 Jun 2022 05:15:26 -0700 (PDT),>>>>>>"waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com" <
for the upbringing of their accidental children.>>>>>>>> Perhaps the addtion of problems in getting an abortion will have folks >>>>>>>> tlhinking less of unprotected sex and more of contraception in the >>>>>>>> first place. And, don't forget the=== >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >No doubt. The affluent and well connected have always been able to get abortions for their daughters. The problem lies elsewhere with people who can't afford all that. And as you have pointed out, society will ultimately pay
shoulda" "coulda" "woulda" is easy for an old white guy in>>Northern Virginia but the world is full of people who fuck up. You>>want them to reproduce. >>BTW "5 weeks" is ridiculous. Most women don't even know they are>>pregnant by then and tests mayThere are still many alternatives to abortion. Let's get Planned>>>Parenthood back in the business of *planning* parenthood.>>>>That list is pretty short in Tupelo Mississippi if you are knocked up>>and too poor to raise a<nother> baby. >>Yeah "
On Thu, 30 Jun 2022 08:28:00 -0700 (PDT),upbringing of their accidental children.
"waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com" <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thursday, June 30, 2022 at 7:02:28 AM UTC-4, John H wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jun 2022 23:45:19 -0400, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jun 2022 06:02:47 -0400, John H <jher...@cox.net> wrote:
On Mon, 27 Jun 2022 15:09:12 -0400, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
On Mon, 27 Jun 2022 07:12:03 -0400, John H <jher...@cox.net> wrote:
On Mon, 27 Jun 2022 02:34:48 -0400, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
On Sun, 26 Jun 2022 05:15:26 -0700 (PDT),
"waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sunday, June 26, 2022 at 5:54:19 AM UTC-4, John H wrote:
On Sat, 25 Jun 2022 15:38:54 -0700 (PDT),
"waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Saturday, June 25, 2022 at 2:37:58 PM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
https://www.aol.com/finance/supreme-court-overturns-roe-v-162515728.html
Planned Parenthood will become a travel agency.
I suspect some states will cash in too. I can see sending your >>> >>>>>>> >> daughter off to "Bible Camp Weekend" or something (whatever it takes
to satisfy your neighbors) and along the way she loses the baby. >>> >>>>>>> >> A nice weekend in Tahoe might appeal to someone in trouble in Arizona
or Texas. If your employer and PP are footing the bill, why not? >>> >>>>>>> >> For the employer, it is a whole lot cheaper than 8 weeks of paid >>> >>>>>>> >> maternity leave and 18 years of family emergencies..
===
No doubt. The affluent and well connected have always been able to get abortions for their daughters. The problem lies elsewhere with people who can't afford all that. And as you have pointed out, society will ultimately pay for the
If I were a promiscuous young lady and lived in Mississippi, I'd bePerhaps the addtion of problems in getting an abortion will have folks
tlhinking less of unprotected sex and more of contraception in the >>> >>>>>>> first place. And, don't forget the morning after and abortion pills >>> >>>>>>> which are still available.
There are lots of alternatives to abortion.
CNN had a young, single, black girl with three kids bemoaning the >>> >>>>>>> fact that she missed the cutoff on the last kid. She seemed quite >>> >>>>>>> intelligent, so I wondered why she didn't take the morning after pill,
or proctice birth control, or take the abortion pill in the first >>> >>>>>>> place.
I have to admit I didn't feel sorry for her.
===
You and the rest of society will end up paying for her and the kids, probably for the rest of their lives. What's your remedy for that?
"Force a 15 year old to have a baby, you destroy 2 lives."
-GF years ago.
Who's doing the forcing? There are many alternatives for a 15
year-old.
Not in Texas, Mississippi, Louisiana and the other 10 states that
passed trigger laws in anticipation of Roe getting tossed.
There are still many alternatives to abortion. Let's get Planned
Parenthood back in the business of *planning* parenthood.
That list is pretty short in Tupelo Mississippi if you are knocked up
and too poor to raise a<nother> baby.
Yeah "shoulda" "coulda" "woulda" is easy for an old white guy in
Northern Virginia but the world is full of people who fuck up. You
want them to reproduce.
BTW "5 weeks" is ridiculous. Most women don't even know they are
pregnant by then and tests may still come back negative if they are.
Then they might wait 3 more weeks to be sure. (2 missed periods).
looking into contraception. It's not like planned parenthood places
are hard to find:
https://www.yellowpages.com/tupelo-ms/planned-parenthood
===
As would anyone else who is coming from a comfortable, educated, middle class background. The typical abortion seeker is none of that.
Gosh, maybe the uncomfortable, union-educated, lower class folks will
learn something about birth control!!
gfretwell@aol.com Wrote in message:raol.com wrote:>>>>>>>On Mon, 27 Jun 2022 07:12:03 -0400, John H <jherring@cox.net> wrote:>>>>>>>>>On Mon, 27 Jun 2022 02:34:48 -0400, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 26 Jun 2022 05:15:26 -0700 (PDT),>>>>>>"waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com" <
On Thu, 30 Jun 2022 07:02:25 -0400, John H <jherring@cox.net> wrote:>On Wed, 29 Jun 2022 23:45:19 -0400, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:>>>On Wed, 29 Jun 2022 06:02:47 -0400, John H <jherring@cox.net> wrote:>>>>>On Mon, 27 Jun 2022 15:09:12 -0400, gfretwell@
will cash in too. I can see sending your >>>>>>>> >> daughter off to "Bible Camp Weekend" or something (whatever it takes >>>>>>>> >> to satisfy your neighbors) and along the way she loses the baby. >>>>>>>> >> A nice weekend in Tahoe might appeal tosomeone in trouble in Arizona >>>>>>>> >> or Texas. If your employer and PP are footing the bill, why not? >>>>>>>> >> For the employer, it is a whole lot cheaper than 8 weeks of paid >>>>>>>> >> maternity leave and 18 years of family emergencies.. >>>>>>
ultimately pay for the upbringing of their accidental children.>>>>>>>> Perhaps the addtion of problems in getting an abortion will have folks >>>>>>>> tlhinking less of unprotected sex and more of contraception in the >>>>>>>> first place.=== >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >No doubt. The affluent and well connected have always been able to get abortions for their daughters. The problem lies elsewhere with people who can't afford all that. And as you have pointed out, society will
And, don't forget the morning after and abortion pills >>>>>>>> which are still available. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> There are lots of alternatives to abortion. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> CNN had a young, single, black girl with three kids bemoaning the >>>>>>>> factthat she missed the cutoff on the last kid. She seemed quite >>>>>>>> intelligent, so I wondered why she didn't take the morning after pill, >>>>>>>> or proctice birth control, or take the abortion pill in the first >>>>>>>> place. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I
anticipation of Roe getting tossed. >>>>>>There are still many alternatives to abortion. Let's get Planned>>>Parenthood back in the business of *planning* parenthood.>>>>That list is pretty short in Tupelo Mississippi if you are knocked up>>and toopoor to raise a<nother> baby. >>Yeah "shoulda" "coulda" "woulda" is easy for an old white guy in>>Northern Virginia but the world is full of people who fuck up. You>>want them to reproduce. >>BTW "5 weeks" is ridiculous. Most women don't even know
sentence to poverty?
Kids are profit items to some women. The more kids the more money
they get from the government. The government loves to incentivize
folks to do the wrong thing.
On Thu, 30 Jun 2022 13:47:41 -0400, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:upbringing of their accidental children.
On Thu, 30 Jun 2022 07:02:25 -0400, John H <jherring@cox.net> wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jun 2022 23:45:19 -0400, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jun 2022 06:02:47 -0400, John H <jherring@cox.net> wrote:
On Mon, 27 Jun 2022 15:09:12 -0400, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
On Mon, 27 Jun 2022 07:12:03 -0400, John H <jherring@cox.net> wrote: >>>>>>
On Mon, 27 Jun 2022 02:34:48 -0400, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
On Sun, 26 Jun 2022 05:15:26 -0700 (PDT), >>>>>>>>"waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com" <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>
On Sunday, June 26, 2022 at 5:54:19 AM UTC-4, John H wrote:
On Sat, 25 Jun 2022 15:38:54 -0700 (PDT),
"waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Saturday, June 25, 2022 at 2:37:58 PM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
https://www.aol.com/finance/supreme-court-overturns-roe-v-162515728.html
Planned Parenthood will become a travel agency.
I suspect some states will cash in too. I can see sending your >>>>>>>>>> >> daughter off to "Bible Camp Weekend" or something (whatever it takes
to satisfy your neighbors) and along the way she loses the baby. >>>>>>>>>> >> A nice weekend in Tahoe might appeal to someone in trouble in Arizona
or Texas. If your employer and PP are footing the bill, why not? >>>>>>>>>> >> For the employer, it is a whole lot cheaper than 8 weeks of paid >>>>>>>>>> >> maternity leave and 18 years of family emergencies..
===
No doubt. The affluent and well connected have always been able to get abortions for their daughters. The problem lies elsewhere with people who can't afford all that. And as you have pointed out, society will ultimately pay for the
Perhaps the addtion of problems in getting an abortion will have folks
tlhinking less of unprotected sex and more of contraception in the >>>>>>>>>> first place. And, don't forget the morning after and abortion pills >>>>>>>>>> which are still available.
There are lots of alternatives to abortion.
CNN had a young, single, black girl with three kids bemoaning the >>>>>>>>>> fact that she missed the cutoff on the last kid. She seemed quite >>>>>>>>>> intelligent, so I wondered why she didn't take the morning after pill,
or proctice birth control, or take the abortion pill in the first >>>>>>>>>> place.
I have to admit I didn't feel sorry for her.
===
You and the rest of society will end up paying for her and the kids, probably for the rest of their lives. What's your remedy for that?
"Force a 15 year old to have a baby, you destroy 2 lives."
-GF years ago.
Who's doing the forcing? There are many alternatives for a 15 >>>>>>>year-old.
Not in Texas, Mississippi, Louisiana and the other 10 states that >>>>>>passed trigger laws in anticipation of Roe getting tossed.
There are still many alternatives to abortion. Let's get Planned >>>>>Parenthood back in the business of *planning* parenthood.
That list is pretty short in Tupelo Mississippi if you are knocked up >>>>and too poor to raise a<nother> baby.
Yeah "shoulda" "coulda" "woulda" is easy for an old white guy in >>>>Northern Virginia but the world is full of people who fuck up. You >>>>want them to reproduce.
BTW "5 weeks" is ridiculous. Most women don't even know they are >>>>pregnant by then and tests may still come back negative if they are. >>>>Then they might wait 3 more weeks to be sure. (2 missed periods).
If I were a promiscuous young lady and lived in Mississippi, I'd be >>>looking into contraception. It's not like planned parenthood places
are hard to find:
https://www.yellowpages.com/tupelo-ms/planned-parenthood
We are talking about when hose things fail and they do or when a girl >>simply does not use them. Kids do dumb shit.
Should that be a life sentence to poverty?
Well, when you know an abortiion is easy as pie, why use 'em? Maybe
they'll grow up a bit. There are plenty of contraceptives out there
other than rubbers!
Oh, and don't forget the words you put in my mouth. An apology would
be in order.
On Thu, 30 Jun 2022 13:46:37 -0400, John H <jherring@cox.net> wrote:upbringing of their accidental children.
On Thu, 30 Jun 2022 08:28:00 -0700 (PDT),
"waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com" <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thursday, June 30, 2022 at 7:02:28 AM UTC-4, John H wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jun 2022 23:45:19 -0400, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jun 2022 06:02:47 -0400, John H <jher...@cox.net> wrote:
On Mon, 27 Jun 2022 15:09:12 -0400, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
On Mon, 27 Jun 2022 07:12:03 -0400, John H <jher...@cox.net> wrote: >>>> >>>
On Mon, 27 Jun 2022 02:34:48 -0400, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
On Sun, 26 Jun 2022 05:15:26 -0700 (PDT),
"waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sunday, June 26, 2022 at 5:54:19 AM UTC-4, John H wrote:
On Sat, 25 Jun 2022 15:38:54 -0700 (PDT),
"waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Saturday, June 25, 2022 at 2:37:58 PM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
https://www.aol.com/finance/supreme-court-overturns-roe-v-162515728.html
Planned Parenthood will become a travel agency.
I suspect some states will cash in too. I can see sending your >>>> >>>>>>> >> daughter off to "Bible Camp Weekend" or something (whatever it takes
to satisfy your neighbors) and along the way she loses the baby.
A nice weekend in Tahoe might appeal to someone in trouble in Arizona
or Texas. If your employer and PP are footing the bill, why not?
For the employer, it is a whole lot cheaper than 8 weeks of paid
maternity leave and 18 years of family emergencies..
===
No doubt. The affluent and well connected have always been able to get abortions for their daughters. The problem lies elsewhere with people who can't afford all that. And as you have pointed out, society will ultimately pay for the
If I were a promiscuous young lady and lived in Mississippi, I'd bePerhaps the addtion of problems in getting an abortion will have folks
tlhinking less of unprotected sex and more of contraception in the >>>> >>>>>>> first place. And, don't forget the morning after and abortion pills
which are still available.
There are lots of alternatives to abortion.
CNN had a young, single, black girl with three kids bemoaning the >>>> >>>>>>> fact that she missed the cutoff on the last kid. She seemed quite >>>> >>>>>>> intelligent, so I wondered why she didn't take the morning after pill,
or proctice birth control, or take the abortion pill in the first >>>> >>>>>>> place.
I have to admit I didn't feel sorry for her.
===
You and the rest of society will end up paying for her and the kids, probably for the rest of their lives. What's your remedy for that?
"Force a 15 year old to have a baby, you destroy 2 lives."
-GF years ago.
Who's doing the forcing? There are many alternatives for a 15
year-old.
Not in Texas, Mississippi, Louisiana and the other 10 states that
passed trigger laws in anticipation of Roe getting tossed.
There are still many alternatives to abortion. Let's get Planned
Parenthood back in the business of *planning* parenthood.
That list is pretty short in Tupelo Mississippi if you are knocked up >>>> >and too poor to raise a<nother> baby.
Yeah "shoulda" "coulda" "woulda" is easy for an old white guy in
Northern Virginia but the world is full of people who fuck up. You
want them to reproduce.
BTW "5 weeks" is ridiculous. Most women don't even know they are
pregnant by then and tests may still come back negative if they are.
Then they might wait 3 more weeks to be sure. (2 missed periods).
looking into contraception. It's not like planned parenthood places
are hard to find:
https://www.yellowpages.com/tupelo-ms/planned-parenthood
===
As would anyone else who is coming from a comfortable, educated, middle class background. The typical abortion seeker is none of that.
Gosh, maybe the uncomfortable, union-educated, lower class folks will
learn something about birth control!!
I bet you are a careful driver but you still carry insurance don't you >because, no matter how careful you are, shit happens
On Thu, 30 Jun 2022 13:59:26 -0400, John H <jherring@cox.net> wrote:upbringing of their accidental children.
On Thu, 30 Jun 2022 13:47:41 -0400, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
On Thu, 30 Jun 2022 07:02:25 -0400, John H <jherring@cox.net> wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jun 2022 23:45:19 -0400, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jun 2022 06:02:47 -0400, John H <jherring@cox.net> wrote:
On Mon, 27 Jun 2022 15:09:12 -0400, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
On Mon, 27 Jun 2022 07:12:03 -0400, John H <jherring@cox.net> wrote: >>>>>>>
On Mon, 27 Jun 2022 02:34:48 -0400, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
On Sun, 26 Jun 2022 05:15:26 -0700 (PDT), >>>>>>>>>"waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com" <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>
On Sunday, June 26, 2022 at 5:54:19 AM UTC-4, John H wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 25 Jun 2022 15:38:54 -0700 (PDT),
"waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >On Saturday, June 25, 2022 at 2:37:58 PM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
https://www.aol.com/finance/supreme-court-overturns-roe-v-162515728.html
Planned Parenthood will become a travel agency.
I suspect some states will cash in too. I can see sending your >>>>>>>>>>> >> daughter off to "Bible Camp Weekend" or something (whatever it takes
to satisfy your neighbors) and along the way she loses the baby. >>>>>>>>>>> >> A nice weekend in Tahoe might appeal to someone in trouble in Arizona
or Texas. If your employer and PP are footing the bill, why not? >>>>>>>>>>> >> For the employer, it is a whole lot cheaper than 8 weeks of paid >>>>>>>>>>> >> maternity leave and 18 years of family emergencies..
===
No doubt. The affluent and well connected have always been able to get abortions for their daughters. The problem lies elsewhere with people who can't afford all that. And as you have pointed out, society will ultimately pay for the
Perhaps the addtion of problems in getting an abortion will have folks
tlhinking less of unprotected sex and more of contraception in the >>>>>>>>>>> first place. And, don't forget the morning after and abortion pills >>>>>>>>>>> which are still available.
There are lots of alternatives to abortion.
CNN had a young, single, black girl with three kids bemoaning the >>>>>>>>>>> fact that she missed the cutoff on the last kid. She seemed quite >>>>>>>>>>> intelligent, so I wondered why she didn't take the morning after pill,
or proctice birth control, or take the abortion pill in the first >>>>>>>>>>> place.
I have to admit I didn't feel sorry for her.
===
You and the rest of society will end up paying for her and the kids, probably for the rest of their lives. What's your remedy for that?
"Force a 15 year old to have a baby, you destroy 2 lives." >>>>>>>>>-GF years ago.
Who's doing the forcing? There are many alternatives for a 15 >>>>>>>>year-old.
Not in Texas, Mississippi, Louisiana and the other 10 states that >>>>>>>passed trigger laws in anticipation of Roe getting tossed.
There are still many alternatives to abortion. Let's get Planned >>>>>>Parenthood back in the business of *planning* parenthood.
That list is pretty short in Tupelo Mississippi if you are knocked up >>>>>and too poor to raise a<nother> baby.
Yeah "shoulda" "coulda" "woulda" is easy for an old white guy in >>>>>Northern Virginia but the world is full of people who fuck up. You >>>>>want them to reproduce.
BTW "5 weeks" is ridiculous. Most women don't even know they are >>>>>pregnant by then and tests may still come back negative if they are. >>>>>Then they might wait 3 more weeks to be sure. (2 missed periods).
If I were a promiscuous young lady and lived in Mississippi, I'd be >>>>looking into contraception. It's not like planned parenthood places
are hard to find:
https://www.yellowpages.com/tupelo-ms/planned-parenthood
We are talking about when hose things fail and they do or when a girl >>>simply does not use them. Kids do dumb shit.
Should that be a life sentence to poverty?
Well, when you know an abortiion is easy as pie, why use 'em? Maybe
they'll grow up a bit. There are plenty of contraceptives out there
other than rubbers!
Oh, and don't forget the words you put in my mouth. An apology would
be in order.
I didn't put any words in your mouth, I just took what you said to
it's likely conclusion.
I also don't think abortion was ever as "easy as pie". It is a tough
decision and can be a risky procedure but it is not for old white men
to decide. It is the woman's decision. It is still her body. She can
always terminate the pregnancy with her own death. Is that what you
want?
On Thu, 30 Jun 2022 14:10:08 -0400 (EDT), Justan Ohlphart <me@yourservice.com> wrote:
gfretwell@aol.com Wrote in message:r
On Thu, 30 Jun 2022 07:02:25 -0400, John H <jherring@cox.net> wrote:>Onwill cash in too. I can see sending your >>>>>>>> >> daughter off to
Wed, 29 Jun 2022 23:45:19 -0400, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:>>>On Wed, 29
Jun 2022 06:02:47 -0400, John H <jherring@cox.net> wrote:>>>>>On Mon,
27 Jun 2022 15:09:12 -0400, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:>>>>>>>On Mon, 27
Jun 2022 07:12:03 -0400, John H <jherring@cox.net> wrote:>>>>>>>>>On
Mon, 27 Jun 2022 02:34:48 -0400, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:>>>>>>>>>>>On
Sun, 26 Jun 2022 05:15:26 -0700
(PDT),>>>>>>"waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com" <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> >>> wrote:>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sunday, June 26, 2022 at 5:54:19 AM UTC-4, John H
wrote:>>>>>>>> On Sat, 25 Jun 2022 15:38:54 -0700 (PDT), >>>>>>>>
"waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:>>>>>>>> >On
Saturday, June 25, 2022 at 2:37:58 PM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
https://www.aol.com/finance/supreme-court-overturns-roe-v-162515728.html
Planned Parenthood will become a travel agency.
I suspect some states
"Bible Camp Weekend" or something (whatever it takes >>>>>>>> >> to
satisfy your neighbors) and along the way she loses the baby. >>>>>>>>
are still available. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> There are lots of alternatives toA nice weekend in Tahoe might appeal to someone in trouble in Arizona >>>> >>>>>>>> >> or Texas. If your employer and PP are footing the bill, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> why not? >>>>>>>> >> For the employer, it is a whole lot >>>>>>>>>>>>>> cheaper than 8 weeks of paid >>>>>>>> >> maternity leave and 18 years of
family emergencies.. >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >=== >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >No doubt. The affluent and well connected have always been able to
get abortions for their daughters. The problem lies elsewhere with
people who can't afford all that. And as you have pointed out,
society will ultimately pay for the upbringing of their accidental
children.>>>>>>>> Perhaps the addtion of problems in getting an
abortion will have folks >>>>>>>> tlhinking less of unprotected sex
and more of contraception in the >>>>>>>> first place. >> And, don't forget the morning after and abortion pills >>>>>>>> which
abortion. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> CNN had a young, single, black girl with
three kids bemoaning the >>>>>>>> fact that she missed the cutoff on the
last kid. She seemed quite >>>>>>>> intelligent, so I wondered why she
didn't take the morning after pill, >>>>>>>> or proctice birth control,
or take the abortion pill in the first >>>>>>>> place. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
I have to admit I didn't feel sorry for
her.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>===>>>>>>>>>>>>>>You and the rest of society will end
up paying for her and the kids, probably for the rest of their lives.
What's your remedy for that?>>>>>>>>>>>>"Force a 15 year old to have a
baby, you destroy 2 lives." >>>>>>-GF years ago. >>>>>>>>>>Who's doing
the forcing? There are many alternatives for a 15>>>>>year-old.
anticipation of Roe getting tossed. >>>>>>There are still manyNot in Texas, Mississippi, Louisiana and the other 10 states that>>>>passed
trigger laws in
alternatives to abortion. Let's get Planned>>>Parenthood back in the
business of *planning* parenthood.>>>>That list is pretty short in
Tupelo Mississippi if you are knocked up>>and too poor to raise
a<nother> baby. >>Yeah "shoulda" "coulda" "woulda" is easy for an old
white guy in>>Northern Virginia but the world is full of people who fuck
up. You>>want them to reproduce. >>BTW "5 weeks" is ridiculous. Most
women don't even know they are>>pregnant by then and tests may still
come back negative if they are.>>Then they might wait 3 more weeks to be
sure. (2 missed periods). >>If I were a promiscuous young lady and lived
in Mississippi, I'd be>looking into contraception. It's not like planned
parenthood places>are hard to
find:>>https://www.yellowpages.com/tupelo-ms/planned-parenthoodWe are
talking about when hose things fail and they do or when a girlsimply
does not use them. Kids do dumb shit. Should that be a life
sentence to poverty?
Kids are profit items to some women. The more kids the more money
they get from the government. The government loves to incentivize
folks to do the wrong thing.
It is interesting that the same people who want to force these
pregnancies to go to term have no interest in supporting the welfare
programs that feed them.
I would like to limit both.
On Thu, 30 Jun 2022 15:30:18 -0400, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:upbringing of their accidental children.
On Thu, 30 Jun 2022 13:46:37 -0400, John H <jherring@cox.net> wrote:
On Thu, 30 Jun 2022 08:28:00 -0700 (PDT), >>>"waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com" <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thursday, June 30, 2022 at 7:02:28 AM UTC-4, John H wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jun 2022 23:45:19 -0400, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jun 2022 06:02:47 -0400, John H <jher...@cox.net> wrote: >>>>> >
On Mon, 27 Jun 2022 15:09:12 -0400, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
On Mon, 27 Jun 2022 07:12:03 -0400, John H <jher...@cox.net> wrote: >>>>> >>>
On Mon, 27 Jun 2022 02:34:48 -0400, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
On Sun, 26 Jun 2022 05:15:26 -0700 (PDT),
"waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sunday, June 26, 2022 at 5:54:19 AM UTC-4, John H wrote:
On Sat, 25 Jun 2022 15:38:54 -0700 (PDT),
"waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Saturday, June 25, 2022 at 2:37:58 PM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
https://www.aol.com/finance/supreme-court-overturns-roe-v-162515728.html
Planned Parenthood will become a travel agency.
I suspect some states will cash in too. I can see sending your >>>>> >>>>>>> >> daughter off to "Bible Camp Weekend" or something (whatever it takes
to satisfy your neighbors) and along the way she loses the baby.
A nice weekend in Tahoe might appeal to someone in trouble in Arizona
or Texas. If your employer and PP are footing the bill, why not?
For the employer, it is a whole lot cheaper than 8 weeks of paid
maternity leave and 18 years of family emergencies..
===
No doubt. The affluent and well connected have always been able to get abortions for their daughters. The problem lies elsewhere with people who can't afford all that. And as you have pointed out, society will ultimately pay for the
If I were a promiscuous young lady and lived in Mississippi, I'd bePerhaps the addtion of problems in getting an abortion will have folks
tlhinking less of unprotected sex and more of contraception in the
first place. And, don't forget the morning after and abortion pills
which are still available.
There are lots of alternatives to abortion.
CNN had a young, single, black girl with three kids bemoaning the >>>>> >>>>>>> fact that she missed the cutoff on the last kid. She seemed quite >>>>> >>>>>>> intelligent, so I wondered why she didn't take the morning after pill,
or proctice birth control, or take the abortion pill in the first >>>>> >>>>>>> place.
I have to admit I didn't feel sorry for her.
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You and the rest of society will end up paying for her and the kids, probably for the rest of their lives. What's your remedy for that?
"Force a 15 year old to have a baby, you destroy 2 lives."
-GF years ago.
Who's doing the forcing? There are many alternatives for a 15
year-old.
Not in Texas, Mississippi, Louisiana and the other 10 states that >>>>> >>>passed trigger laws in anticipation of Roe getting tossed.
There are still many alternatives to abortion. Let's get Planned
Parenthood back in the business of *planning* parenthood.
That list is pretty short in Tupelo Mississippi if you are knocked up >>>>> >and too poor to raise a<nother> baby.
Yeah "shoulda" "coulda" "woulda" is easy for an old white guy in
Northern Virginia but the world is full of people who fuck up. You
want them to reproduce.
BTW "5 weeks" is ridiculous. Most women don't even know they are
pregnant by then and tests may still come back negative if they are. >>>>> >Then they might wait 3 more weeks to be sure. (2 missed periods).
looking into contraception. It's not like planned parenthood places
are hard to find:
https://www.yellowpages.com/tupelo-ms/planned-parenthood
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As would anyone else who is coming from a comfortable, educated, middle class background. The typical abortion seeker is none of that.
Gosh, maybe the uncomfortable, union-educated, lower class folks will >>>learn something about birth control!!
I bet you are a careful driver but you still carry insurance don't you >>because, no matter how careful you are, shit happens
If they've taken advantage of all the birth control methods and the
shit still happens, then they'll have to get boyfriend to drive them
to the nearest abortion facility. They can also vote to get the
abortion laws changed in their state.
<gfretwell@aol.com> wrote:
On Thu, 30 Jun 2022 14:10:08 -0400 (EDT), Justan Ohlphart
<me@yourservice.com> wrote:
gfretwell@aol.com Wrote in message:r
On Thu, 30 Jun 2022 07:02:25 -0400, John H <jherring@cox.net> wrote:>On >>>> Wed, 29 Jun 2022 23:45:19 -0400, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:>>>On Wed, 29 >>>> Jun 2022 06:02:47 -0400, John H <jherring@cox.net> wrote:>>>>>On Mon,will cash in too. I can see sending your >>>>>>>> >> daughter off to
27 Jun 2022 15:09:12 -0400, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:>>>>>>>On Mon, 27
Jun 2022 07:12:03 -0400, John H <jherring@cox.net> wrote:>>>>>>>>>On
Mon, 27 Jun 2022 02:34:48 -0400, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:>>>>>>>>>>>On >>>> Sun, 26 Jun 2022 05:15:26 -0700
(PDT),>>>>>>"waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com" <wayne.beardsley@gmail.com> >>>> wrote:>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sunday, June 26, 2022 at 5:54:19 AM UTC-4, John H >>>> wrote:>>>>>>>> On Sat, 25 Jun 2022 15:38:54 -0700 (PDT), >>>>>>>>
"waynebatr...@hotmail.com" <wayne.b...@gmail.com> wrote:>>>>>>>> >On
Saturday, June 25, 2022 at 2:37:58 PM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
https://www.aol.com/finance/supreme-court-overturns-roe-v-162515728.html
Planned Parenthood will become a travel agency.
I suspect some states
"Bible Camp Weekend" or something (whatever it takes >>>>>>>> >> to
satisfy your neighbors) and along the way she loses the baby. >>>>>>>>
are still available. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> There are lots of alternatives to >>> abortion. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> CNN had a young, single, black girl withA nice weekend in Tahoe might appeal to someone in trouble in Arizona >>>>> >>>>>>>> >> or Texas. If your employer and PP are footing the bill, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> why not? >>>>>>>> >> For the employer, it is a whole lot >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cheaper than 8 weeks of paid >>>>>>>> >> maternity leave and 18 years of
family emergencies.. >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >=== >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >No doubt. The affluent and well connected have always been able to
get abortions for their daughters. The problem lies elsewhere with
people who can't afford all that. And as you have pointed out,
society will ultimately pay for the upbringing of their accidental
children.>>>>>>>> Perhaps the addtion of problems in getting an
abortion will have folks >>>>>>>> tlhinking less of unprotected sex
and more of contraception in the >>>>>>>> first place. >>> And, don't forget the morning after and abortion pills >>>>>>>> which
three kids bemoaning the >>>>>>>> fact that she missed the cutoff on the >>> last kid. She seemed quite >>>>>>>> intelligent, so I wondered why she
didn't take the morning after pill, >>>>>>>> or proctice birth control,
or take the abortion pill in the first >>>>>>>> place. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>> I have to admit I didn't feel sorry for
her.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>===>>>>>>>>>>>>>>You and the rest of society will end
up paying for her and the kids, probably for the rest of their lives.
What's your remedy for that?>>>>>>>>>>>>"Force a 15 year old to have a
baby, you destroy 2 lives." >>>>>>-GF years ago. >>>>>>>>>>Who's doing
the forcing? There are many alternatives for a 15>>>>>year-old.
anticipation of Roe getting tossed. >>>>>>There are still manyNot in Texas, Mississippi, Louisiana and the other 10 states that>>>>passed
trigger laws in
alternatives to abortion. Let's get Planned>>>Parenthood back in the
business of *planning* parenthood.>>>>That list is pretty short in
Tupelo Mississippi if you are knocked up>>and too poor to raise
a<nother> baby. >>Yeah "shoulda" "coulda" "woulda" is easy for an old
white guy in>>Northern Virginia but the world is full of people who fuck >>> up. You>>want them to reproduce. >>BTW "5 weeks" is ridiculous. Most
women don't even know they are>>pregnant by then and tests may still
come back negative if they are.>>Then they might wait 3 more weeks to be >>> sure. (2 missed periods). >>If I were a promiscuous young lady and lived >>> in Mississippi, I'd be>looking into contraception. It's not like planned >>> parenthood places>are hard to
find:>>https://www.yellowpages.com/tupelo-ms/planned-parenthoodWe are
talking about when hose things fail and they do or when a girlsimply
does not use them. Kids do dumb shit. Should that be a life
sentence to poverty?
Kids are profit items to some women. The more kids the more money
they get from the government. The government loves to incentivize
folks to do the wrong thing.
It is interesting that the same people who want to force these
pregnancies to go to term have no interest in supporting the welfare
programs that feed them.
I would like to limit both.
I have no problem with the abortion, I have a problem with the Federal >Government being in charge. States rights. If the people of the state
want abortion, then they legalize such.
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